Bannon's War Room - Episode 4586： The 12 Day War Is Over

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,

00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:15.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:17.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:26.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:27.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:32.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:36.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:43.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.

00:00:49.000 It's Wednesday, 25 June, year of our Lord, 2025.

00:00:53.000 By the way, here at the War Room, we've got a little activity going on,

00:00:57.000 doing a little redesign.

00:00:59.000 So we'll have to work through this because we're trying to get something done quick.

00:01:02.000 Rahim Ghassami here.

00:01:03.000 The 12-day war.

00:01:04.000 President Trump just gave a press conference in the Netherlands.

00:01:08.000 I guess they're having an agreement signed, the Hague Agreement.

00:01:11.000 They're talking about 5% for NATO spending, which is massive.

00:01:15.000 President Trump has won a massive victory there to get the NATO countries to start to pull their weight,

00:01:21.000 which is pretty extraordinary.

00:01:23.000 Big win there.

00:01:24.000 Most importantly, the 12-day war is over, right?

00:01:28.000 So for Tel Aviv Levin and the people that are the town criers for the Netanyahu regime, bad news.

00:01:38.000 The war is over.

00:01:39.000 Not going to be any more American involvement.

00:01:41.000 No more regime change.

00:01:44.000 No more support for any regime change.

00:01:46.000 President Trump is done.

00:01:47.000 One and done.

00:01:48.000 He couldn't have been more adamant about that.

00:01:50.000 Massive political earthquake last night in New York City.

00:01:53.000 You saw this coming for many decades, Rahim Ghassam.

00:01:56.000 So I want to tie together the end of the 12-day war and President Trump being adamant about it.

00:02:02.000 The place is obliterated.

00:02:03.000 We did our duty.

00:02:04.000 We're moving on.

00:02:05.000 And I don't even know if we're going to get him to sign a piece of paper.

00:02:07.000 He looked like he couldn't be bothered, right?

00:02:09.000 He said, end of the bloody war.

00:02:11.000 I hope the ceasefire keeps up.

00:02:14.000 But we're out to what happened in New York City last night.

00:02:17.000 Steve, I...

00:02:22.000 I don't know if we've got the meme up that I found online earlier.

00:02:27.000 But, you know, somebody overnight put together this meme of the Statue of Liberty draped in a hijab or a niqab.

00:02:36.000 Yeah.

00:02:37.000 And immediately when I saw that, I was like, hmm, yes, I've seen that image somewhere before.

00:02:41.000 And that image happened to be on the front cover of my book from 2016 called No Go Zones, how Sharia is coming to a neighborhood near you.

00:02:52.000 And New York City did not take one step towards it yesterday.

00:02:57.000 And, you know, I would like to get into the man more because I think a fascinating character and a fascinating telltale story about how not to do mass migration.

00:03:14.000 This guy has been here since I think 1999, but only got citizenship in 2018 when he figured that he wanted to run for something.

00:03:27.000 This guy belongs to a group of Muslims called the Twelvers who believe that to this day there is a 1,200-year-old living prophet on earth who is in hiding and is going to come out at some point soon and proselytize Islam the world over. 1.00

00:03:49.000 And I've yet to hear any reporters on the campaign trail in New York put these questions to him and say, hey, you know, do you really – are you from this?

00:03:58.660 Do you really believe in this stuff?

00:04:00.000 Because he's affirmed his belief in that sect of Islam, Ishnashri, Shia Islam.

00:04:07.480 But the voters of New York haven't actually got to grips with who this guy is.

00:04:12.100 When he came here, what's he doing?

00:04:13.960 What does he believe in?

00:04:14.880 And Steve, I know you don't believe in ChatGPT or anything like that, but I actually asked ChatGPT this morning about this to see what it had to say.

00:04:25.600 And it replied, this is textbook Red-Green Alliance, the fusion of hard-left revolutionaries and Islamist movements.

00:04:33.960 What unites them?

00:04:35.160 Not shared values, but a shared enemy.

00:04:37.700 Western liberal democracy, nationalism, Christianity, capitalism, and the traditional family.

00:04:43.100 The red side wants to dismantle systems of capitalism and Western power. 0.81

00:04:46.540 The green side wants to replace them with Islamic governance and moral codes.

00:04:50.100 Together they agree on the destruction of the existing order, even if they violently disagree on what should come after.

00:04:56.520 And I think if woke AI is coming out with that, then it's incumbent on this message to reach every single New Yorker, to reject this man, to reject what he stands for.

00:05:06.820 And I have to tell you, am I surprised?

00:05:09.860 No, I predicted it a decade ago.

00:05:12.020 Many predicted it before that.

00:05:13.900 I mean, there have been forerunners on this stuff for decades and decades.

00:05:17.920 You know, the Robert Spencers of the world, Melanie Phillips of the world, Daniel Pipes, all of these guys who kind of I came up with talking about these crystal engines.

00:05:26.540 The Pamela Gellars.

00:05:27.540 The Pamela Gellar, absolutely, for years and years.

00:05:30.160 But it is here, as the subtitle of the book goes, it has come to a neighborhood near you.

00:05:37.260 His parents also.

00:05:38.860 I think his father's a lecturer on this.

00:05:40.640 I mean, the parents are radicals.

00:05:43.380 He's a radical.

00:05:44.260 The media never exposed it.

00:05:45.780 It's the Red-Green Alliance. 0.95

00:05:47.360 And there's a tweet up that the Hispanic and the Hispanic, I think, in the Asian community voted against it.

00:05:57.060 This was he was basically driven by it looks like white progressives, college educated progressives with a key in back of his campaign.

00:06:04.960 Raheem?

00:06:06.060 Of course.

00:06:07.180 Of course.

00:06:07.840 I mean, naturally, you know, increasingly, as President Trump showed, black and Hispanic Americans kind of want nothing to do with hardline, left wing, woke and Marxist revolutionary politics, right?

00:06:26.080 Like Hispanics have been fleeing that for decades on decades now. 1.00

00:06:29.480 Black people in America have been voting for it and living with it in major American cities run by Democrats for decades now and got nothing to show for it.

00:06:38.080 Nothing to show for it.

00:06:39.500 And President Trump came along.

00:06:40.660 And, of course, he said, you know, what do you have to lose?

00:06:42.600 And that message finally got across.

00:06:44.280 It didn't get across right back in 2020 necessarily, but it got across this time, right?

00:06:49.220 And remember, this time, this election around, this last election around, you didn't have the mass mail-in ballots and, you know, the ballot harvesting situation that we had during COVID.

00:07:00.420 So the will of the people was actually more fairly represented in this election.

00:07:04.900 And you could see it, especially in Hispanic and black communities.

00:07:07.820 But, of course, it's the white progressive liberals in a place like New York City.

00:07:12.200 Of course, it's the ethno-nationalist, you know, South Asian and Middle Eastern communities who want Mamdani to run as if it's a referendum on Gaza, right?

00:07:24.160 In midtown Manhattan, in the West Village, in Staten Island, in Long Island, a referendum on Gaza is what's taking place now for these people.

00:07:34.140 And if you think you're going to get good governance, I saw somebody else send a tweet.

00:07:38.700 It was fantastic.

00:07:39.680 It said, you know, the thing is, Mamdani has claimed that he's going to bring down prices in New York because prices are out of control.

00:07:45.660 Average apartment size is out of control.

00:07:47.660 You know, 300 square foot for $6,000 a month kind of thing.

00:07:51.120 He's talking about rent control, grocery stores owned by the government, all of these Caracas-style policies that have failed the world over time and time again.

00:08:00.040 But somebody said the funny thing is he will bring prices down.

00:08:03.020 Once everyone leaves, there will be no demand and prices will come down.

00:08:11.120 How is this to be stopped by the Eric Adams?

00:08:14.900 What's the best way to?

00:08:15.880 Because, folks, this is the financial capital of the world.

00:08:19.260 And this guy is not a socialist.

00:08:20.660 I think he's more of a communist, not saying, hey, his communist take is any worse than his socialist take.

00:08:28.280 But this is the red-green alliance, radical jihad with almost communist economic policy.

00:08:35.000 Is Eric Adams – because Cuomo is talking about running as an independent.

00:08:38.660 You know, Cuomo got powdered last night.

00:08:41.040 Eric Adams didn't even run the Democratic primary.

00:08:43.600 Is it an Eric Adams or a Cuomo that can beat this guy?

00:08:46.060 Yeah, I mean, you know, and it's a weird situation because then, of course, you've got – you know, you've got a Republican apparatus and a conservative apparatus up there who will not feel necessarily comfortable about voting for somebody like Cuomo or even Adams to keep Mamdani out. 0.67

00:09:04.120 But then, you know, what are you going to – and no offense.

00:09:06.020 Like, I love Curtis Lee, but he is the absolute man.

00:09:08.540 But what are you going to do in that situation when you know necessarily that ain't going to be a winning vote that you're casting?

00:09:15.480 Do you stay true to voting your principal party, your candidate, or do you do this thing?

00:09:21.420 Well, because, hey, listen, it's very clear what Mamdani is doing.

00:09:24.060 He's put together this unholy alliance, right?

00:09:26.780 I mean, he's going out there on the one hand saying he's a 12-er Muslim.

00:09:30.480 On the other hand, he's saying he's for LGBT rights.

00:09:33.020 I mean, firstly, the funny thing about 12-erism is they allow for no abrogation. 0.98

00:09:39.260 You cannot pick and choose from the Koran if you identify as one of these guys. 0.97

00:09:43.860 And so he's coming along going, no, I can't pick and choose.

00:09:45.820 So, you know, me personally, if I was running a campaign against him, I would drive this wedge through his campaign over and over and over again to say, you know, to say, hey, look, the progressives and the liberals and the crazies, 0.74

00:10:00.180 the white progressives in New York who are voting for this guy because you think he believes in trans rights, you know, his guy is a 12-er Muslim. 0.99

00:10:08.880 And so the 12-er Muslims and these Asians around him are voting for him to say to them, hey, wait a minute, this is shirk. 0.95

00:10:15.260 This is haram.

00:10:16.380 This is against what he's being taught in the Koran.

00:10:18.920 This is against the religion he claims to have been brought up in.

00:10:21.320 And you're going to vote for this guy?

00:10:23.080 There's ways and ways to do this thing.

00:10:24.720 I don't think it's over by any stretch of the imagination.

00:10:26.800 He does have a very sophisticated campaign.

00:10:29.800 This is like Obama 2.0. 0.78

00:10:31.580 This guy, it's a very sophisticated data.

00:10:34.720 He had, I think he sent, somebody told me he sent mailers out in 24 separate languages.

00:10:40.200 You know, you invite the third world, you're going to be the third world. 1.00

00:10:42.960 This is what's showing you 20, almost 25 years after 9-11.

00:10:47.320 And I know, Raheem, you're very close to the charities and all the good work people are still doing in memory of 9-11 and the victims in the city.

00:10:54.820 25 years after 9-11, you're going to elect New York City put up, in a Democratic primary, used to be the working class of New York City, put up the Red-Green Alliance, a radical Muslim with a socialist.

00:11:11.120 Raheem, before I let you go, also, this has national implications, obviously, but go back to the press conference.

00:11:19.440 President Trump dropped a couple of bombshells on Ukraine.

00:11:22.200 And, folks, remember, before Fox News and Tel Aviv Levin and that crowd were promoting Israel first, they were promoting Ukraine first.

00:11:34.040 Remember, one of the reasons we're in this war at the level we're in it is the port of Fox News until we broke their back on that vote on Ukraine funding and McConnell stepped down.

00:11:45.040 The president's actually said a couple of things on Ukraine I thought were pretty surprising, particularly about Patriot missiles, sir.

00:11:50.580 Well, I mean, you know, he has to be he has to be a bit noncommittal with this stuff, but at the same time show, you know, he's at NATO at the end of the day.

00:12:01.540 Right. And he has to show that there is a at least a willingness for the United States to listen to these pleas, to listen to these questions.

00:12:09.660 By the way, it's it's not just a plea. It's it's an offer. Right.

00:12:12.680 They're offering to buy them. They're asking for them for free anymore.

00:12:15.600 I I'm extremely frustrated. I know, you know, President Trump was speaking with President Putin the other day and Putin asked him, you know, do you need help with Iran?

00:12:24.020 He says, no, I don't need help with Iran. I need help with you.

00:12:25.840 He's extremely frustrated about the lack of movement on any on either side in the Ukraine, Russia thing.

00:12:34.420 But I think at the same time, he knows that if you start arming up Ukraine again in the same fashion that Biden was pouring bad money off to bad and sending more America.

00:12:45.000 You know, there is a finite number of these weapons systems, by the way, and the munitions, by the way, these are not infinite.

00:12:50.380 You can't just pump these things out willy nilly. And he knows that he he has to kind of talk that talk right now.

00:12:58.680 And because, look, Putin's watching this. Right. And he's like, OK, well, if he's not going to sell them anything, then we can we can pretty much keep going the way we're going.

00:13:06.820 This is way more difficult, I think, than most people realized at the outset.

00:13:10.880 So I have a great level of sympathy towards him and I share his frustration.

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00:14:01.420 Thanks, Steve.

00:14:01.820 Thank you, Rahim.

00:14:04.140 Great job.

00:14:05.560 Sam Faddis, Colonel Derek Harvey, our own Ben Harnwell, maybe a little Jack Posobiec also as we get into the second hour.

00:14:13.840 A magnificent press conference from NATO.

00:14:15.900 Also great remarks by President Trump.

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00:16:31.900 Okay, we've got a lot to go through.

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00:16:35.000 So, Ben Harnwell from Rome, you've been our lead guy on all things Ukraine.

00:16:39.180 Do you agree with Raheem Kassam's assessment of what President Trump said on the policy part of the Ukraine situation?

00:16:46.700 Well, look, let's just refer specifically once again to what President Trump said.

00:16:51.620 He was asked a question about the Patriot missiles, the U.S. Patriot missiles, whether he would provide them to Ukraine.

00:16:58.880 He sat down at the NATO summit with a suited Vladimir Zelensky.

00:17:04.120 Zelensky obviously pushed him to supply these U.S. Patriot missiles and then presumably leaked that to the press, hence the question.

00:17:11.740 And President Trump responded saying two things.

00:17:16.200 First of all, he said, well, you know, we need these Patriots as well for our own uses.

00:17:22.260 But he said, look, we're going to – they want some Patriot missiles and we're going to try and get them some.

00:17:27.080 They've offered to pay for it.

00:17:28.300 That obviously got my ears up because earlier on in the press conference, Steve, he said – he confirmed to one of the journalist's questions that it was sarcasm.

00:17:43.340 He said, of course, it was sarcasm when he said he would end this war within the first 24 hours.

00:17:50.460 Look, I like to think, Steve, I'm a relatively astute observer of international affairs.

00:17:57.860 I'm not always right, but I do give these things a lot of attention.

00:18:02.120 I spend about 14 hours a day reading some, I don't know, 800,000, 900,000 articles a day of everything around the world.

00:18:09.140 I follow these things attentively.

00:18:11.660 I have my cynical BDI, Steve, on these things.

00:18:15.320 I saw President Trump's repeated affirmations that he was going to end this war within 24 hours.

00:18:23.420 Look, I'm British.

00:18:24.300 I understand sarcasm.

00:18:25.500 I did not take those statements in the election campaign as sarcasm.

00:18:30.700 I took those as a serious declaration of intent as what he would do.

00:18:35.360 He even said at some point that he was going to end the war before he was inaugurated.

00:18:40.760 It was a period between the November elections and the inauguration.

00:18:44.640 I did not take that comment as sarcasm.

00:18:47.640 And I know a lot of people, because I read all of the comments posted on Getter, Steve, I know a lot of people who voted for him didn't take that as sarcasm.

00:18:55.660 So when he says that he's going to be supplying U.S. Patriot missiles to Zelensky, and Zelensky pays himself, that there's no way to see that other than as at least a rhetorical escalation.

00:19:13.920 And I don't mean to say that.

00:19:15.180 That's not attacking President Trump remotely.

00:19:17.460 That's just simply, I think, an objective reading of what he is.

00:19:21.960 Whether he follows through, of course, and supplies, because we are in the fog of war, whether he follows through and supplies those missiles to Zelensky or not is an open.

00:19:32.560 I think you've got to put it in the perspective of you've got, he said 7,000 Ukrainians died last week.

00:19:41.180 The Russians have not really stopped their offensive. 1.00

00:19:43.100 He's trying to negotiate with Putin and trying to get a Russian rapprochement.

00:19:47.400 You know, I'm not crazy about the Patriot missiles to Ukraine.

00:19:50.160 I want to disengage as quickly as possible.

00:19:51.820 However, I think he's telling you, just like he shut down the 12-day war, there may be some things he has to do that the MAGA base and other people that want more disengagement, more focus here, he's going to have to do to bring it to a conclusion.

00:20:05.500 Let's go to the 12-day war.

00:20:08.460 I mean, he was adamant.

00:20:09.700 They were asked to do the nuclear enhancement and weaponization because it's both a scientific and an industrial process.

00:20:18.160 He did it.

00:20:19.340 He obliterated it.

00:20:20.420 The damage on it is terrible.

00:20:23.660 And they're out.

00:20:24.960 There's no more regime change.

00:20:26.460 It's one and done.

00:20:27.500 12-day war is over.

00:20:29.080 Your thoughts on that?

00:20:32.040 Well, I will take the president's word for it that these sites were obliterated.

00:20:38.100 And I'm perfectly happy to take his word for it, though I haven't seen any damage assessment reports on this at this stage.

00:20:45.500 What I will say is this.

00:20:46.940 I repeat what I said before.

00:20:49.160 I follow these things very, very closely, especially every taking place in the MAGA world.

00:20:55.620 And I've never seen this movement as people dissenting publicly from the president on this issue.

00:21:04.020 I think it will be to be evaluated at some future stage whether the dissent in MAGA world, especially within that faction of MAGA world, which is America first, of people coming out who've never whispered a word against the president before, coming out very forcefully, criticising him for this bombardment.

00:21:26.180 And it will take a future evaluation to see whether whether it was whether it was worth it.

00:21:32.640 I disagree.

00:21:34.640 I disagree.

00:21:35.440 He said it's done.

00:21:37.040 I don't I just I don't agree with that.

00:21:39.240 He says done.

00:21:39.860 He's moving on.

00:21:40.580 They're going to do a further bomb damage assessment.

00:21:42.700 But these guys are pretty confident they did.

00:21:44.340 No, just hang on.

00:21:45.180 We're going to get you back in.

00:21:46.060 I'm not trying to I'm not trying to suppress dissent.

00:21:49.240 Ben Harner was always got a different take on things.

00:21:51.180 Number one, he's British.

00:21:52.100 Number two, he lives in Rome.

00:21:53.180 OK, so just hang on.

00:21:55.400 Hang on there, Ben.

00:21:56.980 Sam Faddis, The Washington Post and President Trump was adamant.

00:22:02.100 The the initial bomb assessment said at least severe damage.

00:22:05.400 He's got other people say obliterated.

00:22:06.980 He's saying it obliterate.

00:22:08.060 The 12 day war is over.

00:22:09.760 He's not looking for a peace agreement.

00:22:12.420 He said he may put Marco in it.

00:22:13.940 I think he said he's going to actually meet with some people.

00:22:16.800 He was pretty open about the no secondary sanctions.

00:22:20.600 The Persians are able to ship oil to the CCP.

00:22:24.780 He says they need cash.

00:22:26.580 There's no regime change there.

00:22:28.300 He's not talking about putting ground troops and even people to go in and check out the damage.

00:22:32.820 The MAGA movement.

00:22:33.760 Hey, take take the win and go. 0.87

00:22:36.300 I realize a lot of people are upset about the bombing itself.

00:22:39.600 But, you know, President Trump's adamant.

00:22:42.440 And I think it's more important than ever to have his back about this because he doesn't want to be dragging this thing anymore.

00:22:46.600 However, Sam, and you wrote a brilliant piece or took a first cut at it on on your sub stack, the Ann magazine sub stack, the Washington Post.

00:22:56.620 And if Denver can put this up, the Washington Post.

00:23:00.620 Has can be nothing less than a brutal story, investigative report.

00:23:03.920 And it's looks like it's pretty well reported because it got a lot of quotes in there from a lot of people, principally in Jerusalem or associated with Israel.

00:23:11.900 So and and this gets to why the the the briefings by DNI and CIA were canceled yesterday.

00:23:21.040 I don't believe they were canceled because of the bomb damage assessment.

00:23:24.540 I think they were canceled because CIA does not have a good answer for the question that this article poses.

00:23:31.180 Now, the headline of this article is Netanyahu decided on Iran war last year, then sought to recruit Trump.

00:23:37.640 And what it goes through is and by the way, if you're an Israel first guy like Tel Aviv Levin and the crowded Fox, this makes perfect sense.

00:23:47.660 And we're a big believer, not just in Israel, but Israel should do what's in its own best interest for its national defense and its national security.

00:23:54.740 And it's been running the tables lately.

00:23:56.280 But, Sam, it gets down to that crucial moment last Thursday with 10 days ago when, you know, they came in with intelligence, CIA and I think Mossad that said there was a breakout moment coming and they had to go and they had to bomb.

00:24:11.400 This article certainly doesn't point to that, does it, sir?

00:24:14.620 No, it doesn't.

00:24:17.600 And that doesn't mean that I'm, you know, I agree with you.

00:24:19.840 It seems to be a well-researched article.

00:24:22.420 I don't, certainly not the case always with The Washington Post.

00:24:27.140 But, look, I think it raises a lot of good questions and it's disturbing and we need answers to that.

00:24:31.800 I think we need answers in general to what the heck just happened.

00:24:36.120 The president of the United States, commander in chief, he doesn't get to just hit the pause button and take all the time he needs to sort everything out, right?

00:24:43.860 You've got to, you understand this as, I haven't been a military officer, I understand it.

00:24:49.500 You've got to make decisions.

00:24:50.980 You've got what information you've got.

00:24:52.600 You've got what advice you've got.

00:24:54.020 And you don't get to just punt.

00:24:56.580 So you make the best decisions in the interest of the country at the time.

00:25:01.040 Okay, we did that.

00:25:03.060 Now I think we really need to walk through this and say, okay, wait, there's a whole bunch of questions here as I put in my article that we put out today.

00:25:12.160 I mean, let's start with Fordow, this obsession with we've got to go in, we've got to bomb Fordow, we're the only guys that can do it.

00:25:20.660 Well, not to get lost in the weeds of how you build a nuclear weapon, but that enrichment facility at Fordow is not, that's not the whole Iranian nuclear program.

00:25:30.580 If they were actually about two weeks from having an operational nuke, actually having, it's unclear how many, nine to 15, according to the Israeli.

00:25:39.160 All right, well, they got everything they needed out of Fordow a long time ago because that's enriched uranium gas.

00:25:45.720 Then you've got to turn it into metal.

00:25:47.140 You've got to machine it, yada, yada.

00:25:48.620 You've got to put it into a device with neutron initiator and wiring harnesses and all the other crap nobody cares about.

00:25:55.260 The point is that all takes time.

00:25:57.420 So bombing Fordow, while it might be a great idea, because it stops more uranium from being enriched, would not end the immediate threat.

00:26:10.560 That enriched uranium would have already, at the time Netanyahu started this, likely been moved somewhere else.

00:26:17.480 So why, why were we told that Fordow was a screaming emergency?

00:26:24.040 And if they moved it somewhere else, where the heck did they move it?

00:26:27.620 And did the Israelis bomb that?

00:26:29.620 And what happened?

00:26:30.440 And has there been bomb damage assessment there?

00:26:32.900 There's just a, and you know, there's a lot of questions like that here to say, wait a second.

00:26:38.800 And, you know, my opinion on this, the fact that we are relying so much on intelligence from a foreign country, even a close ally, leaves me feeling really, really uncomfortable. 0.69

00:26:51.320 That's, that's not how this should go.

00:26:53.660 The president needs his own intelligence from our sources.

00:26:57.740 You've worked at the CIA.

00:26:58.700 I mean, and this is why I think the administration, look, President Trump did his duty as commander in chief.

00:27:05.480 If the bombing has taken place, they're adamant about it is obliterated.

00:27:13.380 And he just said right there, one and done, we're, we're, we're gone.

00:27:16.940 Right.

00:27:17.440 There's no more regime change he's talking about in Persia.

00:27:19.980 If the Persian people want to do it, fine, but he's out.

00:27:24.220 Right.

00:27:24.800 I don't think that could be more definitive.

00:27:26.360 And I know for the Tel Aviv Levin crowd and all the, uh, all the, uh, the, um, people that represent a foreign government or speak for a foreign government or cheerleaders for a foreign government over at Fox, I know that's going to break your heart.

00:27:41.180 All the regime change and people went boots on the ground.

00:27:43.500 President Trump couldn't be harder, but Sam, I'll come back to you.

00:27:46.920 We can take a short commercial break.

00:27:47.980 But this thing's pretty adamant that the, that it was about the air defenses that the Israelis knocked down being rebuilt.

00:27:54.500 They had an opportunity because they're knocked down in general Corrilla at CENCOM.

00:27:58.520 Cause you know what a beast CENCOM is, is set to retire.

00:28:01.700 I think July one.

00:28:03.780 And this is why we're calling for whatever information the CIA has in the Mossad has to be put forward about exactly what this breakout moment was short commercial break.

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00:30:09.460 On Capitol Hill, saying that everything had been suspended since 2003 and had not restarted,

00:30:16.240 that the nuclear program had not been restarted by the Iranians.

00:30:19.560 So did something change from end of March until this week?

00:30:23.560 Was the U.S. intel wrong?

00:30:26.620 The intel we got and we shared with the United States was absolutely clear.

00:30:32.100 It was absolutely clear that they were working in a secret plan to weaponize the uranium.

00:30:38.320 They were marching very quickly.

00:30:39.700 They would achieve a test device and possibly an initial device within months and certainly less than a year.

00:30:46.680 That was the intel we shared with the United States.

00:30:48.800 I think we have excellent intel in Iran.

00:30:52.160 I think we've proven that.

00:30:53.640 And that is something that we couldn't possibly accept.

00:30:56.620 Whether it would be six months or 12 months or 13 months is immaterial.

00:31:00.760 Once they go that route, it's too late.

00:31:03.480 And we will not have a second holocaust, a nuclear holocaust. 0.87

00:31:07.660 We already had one in the previous century.

00:31:10.160 The Jewish state is not going to have the holocaust made it on the Jewish people.

00:31:13.720 It's not going to happen.

00:31:14.540 Never again is now.

00:31:16.140 And we have to act now.

00:31:17.520 Okay, Sam, correct me if I'm wrong.

00:31:21.200 The Washington Post story, and I realize it's the Bezos, Amazon, Washington Post, but this thing has not been refuted yet.

00:31:27.340 But this article puts a lie to that statement, correct, about what Netanyahu said.

00:31:36.200 And even in Netanyahu's, his pitch, it's a year away.

00:31:40.800 Is it not, sir?

00:31:41.540 Yeah, there is the issue, as you've pointed out from the beginning of, depending on which Israeli is speaking at what time, how immediate this threat is seems to bounce all over the place from 12, you know, from two weeks to a year.

00:31:56.180 But, yeah, the Washington Post article clearly says that this is a lie.

00:32:02.880 What the Washington Post article says to me is we got played.

00:32:06.240 Now, you can believe that.

00:32:07.220 You cannot believe that.

00:32:08.280 You can take pieces of that.

00:32:10.520 But that basically the Israelis ran the game on us. 0.86

00:32:14.000 And the answer to this, I know I'm the broken record, the answer to this is you don't have a president who's left in the position where he doesn't have his own intelligence people telling him what is real, like, that he can count on.

00:32:28.820 So if the Israelis come and tell us something and it's not accurate, he can nod and smile and do whatever he wants, but he knows, yeah, look, man, I got better intelligence than you.

00:32:39.820 I know that you're playing with me and I'm not going to react.

00:32:43.540 Or if there really is a threat, you know what the real answer is?

00:32:46.460 The CIA should have come to him before Netanyahu ever got to him and said, we got to act.

00:32:52.860 But one way or the other, we got to have our own sources and our own people.

00:32:55.960 We cannot let a foreign nation, no matter how close an ally, tell us what to do and lead us around. 1.00

00:33:05.140 Supposedly the CIA, and I think this is why they didn't go to Capitol Hill, because they don't have this story right now.

00:33:11.380 I think the CIA and Ratcliffe may have agreed or put that in front of the president.

00:33:15.880 Isn't this why you need a Team B?

00:33:19.520 Doesn't the president need, I don't know if it's J.D. Vance or somebody, obviously he's close to Marco, Pete,

00:33:24.980 but somebody, you've got the intelligence vertical that's coming to him.

00:33:29.280 But this is what Reagan did.

00:33:31.020 To avoid what happened to Carter in the disaster in, guess what, in Iran with the hostage, 0.96

00:33:37.620 the failed hostage rescue, which crushed Carter in the election and forever is hung on him as far as being a loser goes.

00:33:44.900 Bill Casey, who was a Wall Street deal guy, set up a Team B immediately so President Reagan would always have an independent assessment

00:33:53.860 that intelligence was coming to him, because when they stepped in there, as you remember, Sam, very well,

00:33:59.000 and I think you outlined in the book, Casey and those guys didn't really think the CIA was doing a good job

00:34:03.840 of giving information to Nixon and to other people, correct?

00:34:07.600 And so they set up a Team B.

00:34:08.620 Is that not what President Trump needs now, sir?

00:34:12.020 Yeah.

00:34:12.500 You need the people who are going to ask the hard questions and aren't just going to go with sort of the group dynamics

00:34:21.820 and the conventional wisdom.

00:34:23.920 And the way this bureaucracy ends up defaulting to making statements that sound definitive but aren't.

00:34:30.720 So if you'd asked the intelligence community the day before 9-11, are there any intelligence threats?

00:34:36.120 Are we about to get hit?

00:34:37.460 They would have said something to the effect of we have no current intelligence of any threats to the homeland,

00:34:42.880 which sounds like we're good to go.

00:34:45.040 But actually what it means is we don't have any intelligence.

00:34:48.260 We don't know anything is what they're saying.

00:34:51.400 OK, you make these assessments about the status of the Iranian nuclear program.

00:34:55.720 Is that because you've got a bunch of guys and us saying basically there is none, there's nothing to worry about.

00:35:01.920 Is that because you've got six guys on the payroll at the top of that program and you've got it covered?

00:35:07.840 Or is that because you've got no access at all, you don't have any idea what's going on?

00:35:12.600 In other words, you don't see that they have a nuclear program.

00:35:15.780 Those are two dramatically different things.

00:35:17.860 Again, if you don't know the right questions to ask and you don't kind of push back on these briefings,

00:35:25.080 yeah, the room will be filled with smoke and you will be led astray.

00:35:31.780 Sam, where do people go to get your analysis of this over at Ann Magazine?

00:35:35.800 I know you're on Substack and we want your social media also.

00:35:40.800 AnnMagazine.Substack.com.

00:35:42.740 I'm on Twitter as RealSamFaddis.

00:35:45.080 I am on Truth Social as RealSamFaddis on Getter as well.

00:35:51.400 Thank you, sir.

00:35:52.440 Appreciate you.

00:35:53.180 Appreciate you writing that and doing that analysis for Scott.

00:35:56.540 Thank you.

00:35:57.500 Everybody's got to read this.

00:35:58.680 Grace and Mo, if you can push it out hard into all the chats.

00:36:02.240 Derek Harvey.

00:36:03.200 So one of the reasons the ceasefire came and President Trump has said, we're done.

00:36:09.640 The 12-day war is over, right?

00:36:12.320 And the American bombing raid settled it.

00:36:15.080 The industrial, in the scientific process.

00:36:18.060 There'll be other bomb damage assessment, but he said it's done.

00:36:21.580 And he said they've got Israeli guys that have put eyeballs on it, but it's done. 0.95

00:36:26.860 But you get back to the actual beginning of this. 0.99

00:36:32.580 And did the Israelis bite, the Netanyahu bite off more, you can shoot.

00:36:35.620 You've got to talk about, because they talk about ballistic missiles.

00:36:38.540 It just wasn't the nuclear program.

00:36:40.960 His other objective was the ballistic missiles.

00:36:43.340 The United States, from the beginning, stepped in here while they were taking them out to defend Israel, the state of Israel and the people of Israel.

00:36:50.100 Correct, Derek?

00:36:50.600 They have a very sophisticated system, but it was overwhelmed.

00:36:56.380 And if it wasn't for the Americans stepping in here with their Aegis and the early Burke cruisers and other aspects, it could have been.

00:37:03.560 And it was a pretty big disaster.

00:37:04.940 The citizens of Israel got hit particularly hard in Haifa and particularly in Tel Aviv.

00:37:11.800 Can you just walk us through a quick overview of the system and how we were able to kind of plug the holes?

00:37:17.760 Well, yes, I will.

00:37:19.100 First off, I think there was a level of coordination heading up to the end of the 60-day period of negotiations, and Israel struck the very next day.

00:37:29.460 And from the Israeli perspective, they were marching towards war in all likelihood because sequentially they had negated the missile threat. 0.51

00:37:40.560 They got really from Gaza, and then, you know, next step was, you know, Hezbollah with their 150,000 rockets, and then, you know, the Houthis. 0.71

00:37:50.860 And, you know, Iran has always relied on those. 0.53

00:37:53.560 And during that whole process, you know, when Iran fired, they, you know, had a retaliation, and the Israelis took out, you know, the whole air defense system in reality for Iran.

00:38:07.340 So, you know, from a defensive perspective, it made the threat to them, you know, much more limited, and then they could really focus on Iran.

00:38:18.140 And, you know, from the Iranian perspective, you know, you know, they have a lot of capabilities, hypersonic, ballistic missiles.

00:38:26.040 They've been working on ICBMs.

00:38:28.000 They've got the long-range drones.

00:38:29.880 But for the Israelis, you know, they've got, you know, Patriot Pac-3s. 0.91

00:38:34.520 You know, they've got, you know, Arrow.

00:38:36.520 They've got the Iron Dome.

00:38:38.000 But they still needed our support.

00:38:40.100 And that came from, you know, Aegis cruisers off the coast.

00:38:43.880 It came from our relocating THAAD, Theater Air Ballistic Missile Defense.

00:38:49.000 It came from the layered capabilities that we had, you know, in the Gulf and, you know, elsewhere that could support.

00:38:56.380 And then for the drones, our Air Force actually, you know, provided, you know, a lot of shoot-down capability.

00:39:02.680 And we helped coordinate, you know, the ability to fly and counter these threats, you know, over, you know, airspace between Iran and Israel.

00:39:13.020 But they could not have defended themselves without the support of the United States and the permissions given.

00:39:21.180 And secondly, you know, if you're looking at it from Iran's perspective, you know, you only had one really array coming in to Israel, you know, from Iranian territory, which made it easier to target.

00:39:35.340 If they would have had to, you know, defend against, you know, Hezbollah and the Houthis and Gaza, it would have been, you know, overwhelming for them.

00:39:43.820 And so that's a lesson learned, that it's not just the nuke, as you mentioned, Steve.

00:39:48.040 They have to be able to defend in the future against, you know, these missiles, which will be rebuilt.

00:39:54.740 These capabilities will in all likelihood, you know, be expanded and rebuilt.

00:39:59.760 And they're going to learn lessons in Tehran about how to prepare for the next time.

00:40:05.340 But here, and there probably will be a next time, but here's the point of, and we believe in Israel first. 0.79

00:40:14.720 We think American citizens ought to be pushing America first. 0.84

00:40:19.400 And you don't see that at Fox News, and particularly you don't see that with Tel Aviv live in, in that crowd.

00:40:24.600 They're going to push Israel first. 1.00

00:40:26.800 And here's the problem.

00:40:28.920 Three things.

00:40:29.420 Number one, this story, unless it's refuted, shows that there was no urgency.

00:40:35.340 And the new intelligence was very garbled, but the two things stand out.

00:40:43.800 They definitely knew the air defenses were down.

00:40:45.920 They had knocked them out, and they had an opportunity before they got rebuilt.

00:40:50.740 And they knew Corilla at CENTCOM was one of their biggest supporters and had already worked through the battle plan.

00:40:57.060 And I have no problem with that.

00:41:00.280 If they're putting Israel first, that's what they're supposed to. 1.00

00:41:02.380 Netanyahu's government is supposed to put Israel first.

00:41:04.660 They're supposed to defend Israel. 0.65

00:41:05.880 But that in starting the initiative, in the sense of urgency, that they didn't have the capability, and it wouldn't really even seem as a priority to take out the nuclear weapons.

00:41:18.360 This was all driven to regime change.

00:41:21.740 That's why they went to the upsell immediately.

00:41:25.120 And number three, they didn't have the defensive capabilities.

00:41:27.720 That's why on the 12th day, or the 11th day, President Trump stepped in for the ceasefire.

00:41:35.540 The Israelis were getting pounded.

00:41:38.280 Pounded.

00:41:38.860 And it's looking worse because we don't have, I mean, we're kind of running out of equipment too, are we not, Derek, to a degree?

00:41:44.380 Well, I think from a geostrategic perspective, you know, one of the issues for us has been, you know, being entangled in the Middle East and it inhibiting our ability to shift, you know, in many ways to the threat from China.

00:42:02.820 And, you know, the outcome of this conflict, you know, is going to keep us entangled in the region.

00:42:08.240 You know, the near-term threat's not going to be as much from Iran.

00:42:11.220 You know, they've been, you know, brutalized through this campaign.

00:42:13.380 But, you know, as you mentioned, they're probably going to come back, you know, unless there's, you know, interim agreements that, you know, address some of these issues, the nuclear, you know, the ballistic missiles and the proxy war.

00:42:25.700 But Iran is more isolated than it has been.

00:42:28.160 They found that both China and Russia weren't either able or willing to step in.

00:42:32.880 And their allies, you know, Hezbollah and Lebanon, that's, I think they've been, you know, isolated in Lebanon.

00:42:39.380 And, you know, they're surrounded by, you know, a Syrian regime that no longer, you know, works with them and is a conduit for Iran.

00:42:46.220 So from an Israeli geostrategic perspective, it's looking much better.

00:42:50.300 And from Iran's perspective, it's not looking good.

00:42:53.200 But I go back to getting to your point, the quality of intelligence, the objectivity of the intelligence and the reliability of it.

00:43:02.380 And is the, you know, intelligence getting to the president?

00:43:06.800 Is it being fairly vetted?

00:43:10.360 You know, we are in many ways overly dependent on Israel for access and understanding what's going on.

00:43:23.240 You know, a lot of our capabilities would be, Sam Faddis mentioned, we do have to rely on a team B, team A, I think more.

00:43:30.980 And there has been doubt about the reliability of the intelligence coming out of the, you know, the agencies, especially the national intelligence estimates, not just on this Iran estimate, but on the Venezuelan CDA assessment that said there's no collaboration.

00:43:50.740 And then the question about CIA.

00:43:52.520 Hey, Colonel, just hang on for one second or take a break.

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00:45:26.580 Derek, can you just give me that again?

00:45:28.320 You were garbled.

00:45:29.280 That's why I had to reboot you.

00:45:30.380 Just give me again what you were saying towards the end of your hit.

00:45:33.960 Well, it is not a good thing for the United States and for our decision makers to be over-reliant, overly reliant on, you know, a partner.

00:45:42.360 An ally, whether it's the U.K. or Israel, for really deep understanding about what's going on in threat countries.

00:45:50.020 And, unfortunately, you know, the Israelis, you know, have the dominant position and they have extreme penetration of, you know, the region.

00:45:59.880 And you can't rely on technical collection, you know, whether it's SIGINT or cyber or other things, unless it is really enabled by, you know, superb outstanding human intelligence that allows you that penetration.

00:46:14.480 And, you know, just from a collection perspective, you know, we are overly reliant because we do not invest in human in a way that, you know, protects our own interests and makes sure that we've got a way of, you know, checking on what's going on.

00:46:29.800 So that's one big issue, along with some of the other things that, you know, Sam and you've already mentioned, like Team A, Team B, but also having an arbiter in the National Security Council who's a, you know, intelligence senior director who understands how the intelligence community works,

00:46:46.400 understands the games that are played and understands, you know, the types of priority information requirements that NSC and the president require, as well as the agencies and departments that rely on this intelligence.

00:47:00.020 That's a critical role for protecting the interests of the president.

00:47:06.100 Colonel Harvey could not agree more. Sir, where do people get you on social media?

00:47:10.340 First off, my web page is DerekHarvey.net. And then my truth social is Derek, at Derek Harvey. And then on Twitter, of course, it's Colonel D. Harvey.

00:47:27.800 Colonel, thank you so much. Appreciate you.

00:47:30.160 Good. Thanks, Steve.

00:47:30.860 Somebody with incredible experience in the Middle East and a major player in the first administration.

00:47:40.880 Also, Devin Nunes is right-hand man over at House Intel to sort it all out.

00:47:46.660 Very disturbing story. We're going to cover it more today. We had to take 50 minutes.

00:47:50.880 In fact, I could have played it twice. President Trump gave a talk, had some remarks at the NATO summit in Netherlands, in The Hague,

00:47:57.400 and then took Q&A, which was a master class. As he said, I took questions from all the beauties, all the toughest people.

00:48:04.760 And it was very limited. We're going to pull and have some of that today and talk about it because there's a lot of stuff on Ukraine.

00:48:10.480 Most importantly, the 12-day war is over. I mean, he was adamant. Boom, over.

00:48:15.600 I did what we had to do. Got it done. I promised for, I think he said, 15 years to do that.

00:48:21.660 But it's obliterated. We're moving on. And there's going to be tremendous pressure put on President Trump and his administration.

00:48:30.140 Boots on the ground. Regime change. You watch. The Israel first crowd over at Fox is going to be relentless. 1.00

00:48:37.200 And we're going to make sure we're here. Too blunted. That's where they're all worked up.

00:48:40.460 They're leaking oil because we shut down their regime change, which they wanted to go to.

00:48:45.800 In fact, if there's regime change, right, we think every country ought to do it.

00:48:50.780 Maybe in Jerusalem they should start thinking about that.

00:48:53.600 I don't know how Netanyahu's government, this Washington Post story has got to be refuted.

00:48:57.420 I don't know how anybody can deal with them until the CIA comes out.

00:49:01.180 We've got to talk about exactly what information was put forward on that critical time of Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday of a couple of weeks ago,

00:49:10.200 particularly led up to the bombing.

00:49:11.440 And I think everybody's in agreement. It needs to be a major reset.

00:49:15.740 If you're a protectorate, you've got to act like a protectorate.

00:49:18.800 And Israel is a protectorate, right? 0.95

00:49:21.120 We don't have an alliance with them.

00:49:23.240 And the one time, and President Trump, I'll tell you this, with Soleimani, Netanyahu backed out at the last second,

00:49:29.440 did not have President Trump's back in the very last moment.

00:49:33.040 And anybody disputes that, go talk to President Trump. He's pretty adamant about it.

00:49:36.600 And he believes that that's the first step. That was the first step in a long chain that led to that bombing the other night.

00:49:43.080 He said Soleimani was the George Patton or the Douglas MacArthur of the armed forces in Iran with the Persians,

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00:51:11.940 Jack Posobiec after that.

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00:51:21.560 And then from 5 to 7, we're going to have, I think right now, hopefully Senator Schmidt's going to join us.

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00:51:31.440 And also walking through President Trump's NATO visit.

00:51:33.860 What's got to happen here now that he's back focused on the big, beautiful bill.

00:51:37.040 Also deportations.

00:51:38.320 Remember that?

00:51:38.880 Mass deportations.

00:51:39.800 And the end of the 12-day war.

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Bannon's War Room - June 25, 2025

Episode 4586： The 12 Day War Is Over

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