Bannon's War Room - Episode 4591： Updates From House Intel Briefing; Major SCOTUS Rulings

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies,

00:00:09.000 because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.000 MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:49.000 It's Friday 27 June in the year of our Lord 2025.

00:00:57.000 We're on the road today and for the next couple of days.

00:01:00.000 I want to thank everybody for putting the show together and kind of the last moment.

00:01:03.000 If we're packed today, we're going to have to juggle a lot.

00:01:07.000 And here's the reason the last day of the Supreme Court,

00:01:09.000 and they're going to be announcing, you know, a ton of major decisions,

00:01:13.000 including birthright citizenship.

00:01:15.000 Josh Hammer is going to join us at the bottom of this hour.

00:01:19.000 They're trying to break it all down for us.

00:01:21.000 Also, we have Chip Roy, MTG and hopefully a couple of three others from over the cloakroom in the house.

00:01:26.000 The big, beautiful bill because of issues with this parliamentarian.

00:01:32.000 Remember, the reconciliation process is a little bit of a gimmick, but it's one that both parties use.

00:01:40.000 What it means is that you don't need to break the filibuster.

00:01:43.000 You don't need to get the 60 votes to break the filibuster to get things passed.

00:01:46.000 You can do it on a majority of 51.

00:01:49.000 And when either party has that, has the control of the Senate,

00:01:52.000 they normally like to do these reconciliations where they can get certain things passed.

00:01:58.000 They couldn't get 10 votes or 9 votes or 8 votes of the opposite party to do.

00:02:04.000 However, there's some real technicalities about that put in by Senator Byrd,

00:02:11.000 who was a real process guy back in the late 20th century.

00:02:17.000 And they put in some processes.

00:02:20.000 Supposedly, you can't slip policy in there that's not related to budget.

00:02:25.000 Last night, they've taken out, in fact, some of the MAGA elements,

00:02:31.000 particularly in Medicaid and certain other things, transgender.

00:02:35.000 I know from Showalter in the crowd, people are very upset.

00:02:38.000 Terry Schilling, people are very upset about this.

00:02:40.000 There's a lot on this.

00:02:42.000 There's a lot on the side of Medicaid and other things people are talking about that are not in,

00:02:49.000 going to be in, don't know where it is.

00:02:51.000 Thune is working right now.

00:02:53.000 We'll try to bring updates.

00:02:55.000 Now, that's just on the Senate side.

00:02:56.000 Also, it looks like, according to MTG, Chip Roy, and others,

00:03:02.000 some of the provisions that they wanted in, that people wanted in,

00:03:06.000 that were the more MAGA provisions, looks like it may have even been taken out.

00:03:10.000 And that includes even some of the tax issues, et cetera.

00:03:14.000 So, President Trump has announced already he's not leaving for Bedminster, which he was going to do later today and go for the weekend.

00:03:23.000 I think he's going to be here.

00:03:24.000 And President Trump, once again, is not simply putting the deals together.

00:03:31.000 He's going to have to whip the votes.

00:03:33.000 He's still demanding that this be on his desk to sign on the 4th of July, which I think is next Friday.

00:03:39.000 So, a lot going on on the Hill, a lot of horse trading and discussion.

00:03:44.000 And it's going to be a work weekend.

00:03:46.000 And, of course, we'll be there with everybody.

00:03:48.000 At the same time, there's a huge controversy yesterday with Bobby Kennedy and the Make America Healthy Again crowd,

00:03:57.000 which we're part of, about these vaccines.

00:04:00.000 We're going to have Mary Holland and other people on in a little while to go through that. 0.99

00:04:04.000 Josh Hammer will be here to break all the Supreme Court decisions down.

00:04:08.000 There's a lot going on on this President Trump shutting down the war.

00:04:13.000 The intelligence briefings that we were live yesterday, they were just getting out.

00:04:19.000 Obviously, a lot of controversy.

00:04:21.000 President Trump said, hey, we've closed the books on this and we're moving on.

00:04:25.000 A lot of Democrat feedback.

00:04:27.000 He's actually accusing now the Democratic Party of leaking some of the preliminary results, which were not totally accurate.

00:04:34.000 So, we've got a lot going on today.

00:04:36.000 We're going to get on it.

00:04:37.000 I want to start with Jim Rickards.

00:04:38.000 And, Jim, there's discussion now that Steve Wyckoff said, hey, the Iranian delegation they're actually going to sit down with next week.

00:04:48.000 They're trying to put a deal together.

00:04:50.000 There's obviously not going to be a regime change or no discussion of regime change.

00:04:54.000 The Make America Great, the MAGA movement, who doesn't want to get into an extended war.

00:05:00.000 I'm really proud of President Trump.

00:05:02.000 Although some people said, hey, we shouldn't have any involvement at all.

00:05:05.000 He came in with an overwhelming military strike package, destroyed whatever was there for bomb-making capabilities.

00:05:13.000 He obliterated it.

00:05:15.000 He's moved on.

00:05:16.000 He's actually got people in discussions.

00:05:17.000 Can you put this in geostrategic framework, particularly given what happened at NATO, where we finally got the nations of Europe that stepped up to the plate and say they're going to actually put up 5 percent of GDP for their own defense so they don't have to be protectorates of the United States of America?

00:05:35.000 Jim Rickards, sir.

00:05:36.000 Thanks, Steve.

00:05:38.000 Thanks, Steve.

00:05:39.000 You're right.

00:05:40.000 Steve Webkoff talking to the Iranians is a very positive step forward.

00:05:44.000 Let's hope that happens soon and they make some progress.

00:05:47.000 Each side is sort of not showing its hand, but, you know, taking a shot, literally.

00:05:52.000 And we can kind of go from there.

00:05:54.000 I do want to go back just a little bit.

00:05:57.000 Hey, Jim.

00:05:58.000 Jim, can you hang up for one second?

00:06:01.000 We've got Chip Roy calling from the cloakroom on the phone about what's going on.

00:06:05.000 I just want to put a pin in for a second.

00:06:07.000 I'm going to come right back to you.

00:06:08.000 Congressman Roy, can you get a status?

00:06:10.000 Because it looks very confusing up there on Capitol Hill right now.

00:06:14.000 Yes, Steve.

00:06:15.000 Good to be on.

00:06:16.000 I just got out of a briefing on the strikes.

00:06:19.000 I think you just articulated very well about the president's use of force and doing it very well.

00:06:24.000 I think they executed it in the fashion that, as you point out, that MAGA Americans are, you know, not wanting to be involved in a long term war, get involved in endless wars.

00:06:34.000 We've been dealing with the last 25 years.

00:06:35.000 The president did a great job.

00:06:36.000 We just got a good briefing on it.

00:06:37.000 I feel much better about it after listening to those guys.

00:06:40.000 And then we'll head up to the House floor and we've got to vote on something that's not really relevant to the BBB, but we've been watching all the negotiations with the big, beautiful bill in the Senate.

00:06:50.000 And the Senate's messing it up. 0.96

00:06:51.000 I mean, that's the bottom line.

00:06:52.000 It's like, you know, we passed a good but not great bill in the House.

00:06:56.000 You and I have talked about that.

00:06:58.000 Didn't go as far as I would prefer in terms of spending restraint, but at least was a giant step forward in trying to honor our commitment to spending and try to at least think about reducing the deficit.

00:07:10.000 Our bill was plausibly deficit neutral or even going down as tariff revenue and economic growth comes in.

00:07:17.000 But the Senate is just blowing it up right now with probably another trillion dollars in the calculations I've seen, which we don't have bill text yet.

00:07:26.000 And, you know, they're undermining a lot of the great things we got while they're letting the parliamentarian make decisions.

00:07:33.000 They're not doing what they need to do, and they're certainly not ending the Green News scam, which the president wants. 0.93

00:07:40.000 So we're going to have a lot of work to do these next few days, and I hope the conservatives in the Senate hold the line.

00:07:45.000 Guys like Mike Lee, Ron Johnson, Rick Scott, they've been doing a great job trying to negotiate this thing to a better place.

00:07:52.000 But it's not where it needs to be.

00:07:56.000 Let me ask you again, what is – the Senate said a trillion dollars.

00:08:00.000 What, they haven't gotten rid of the Green News scam? 1.00

00:08:02.000 What else do they do?

00:08:05.000 Well, a lot of the important provisions that we put in there are getting stripped out.

00:08:10.000 So I'll give you an example.

00:08:11.000 Like there was provision in there to end the tax and regulations on silencers.

00:08:16.000 That was stripped out.

00:08:17.000 There was a provision in there to ensure that there weren't tax dollars going to transgender surgeries.

00:08:21.000 That was stripped out on the Obamacare subsidies.

00:08:24.000 There was a tax in there to tax these universities, endowments, these liberal universities at 28%.

00:08:30.000 That was watered down to 8%.

00:08:32.000 There are provisions in there to deal with the food stamps.

00:08:35.000 They took out $100 billion worth of our reforms to make food stamps be going to the actual needy, not the able-bodied.

00:08:43.000 And this is all of those things.

00:08:45.000 I could go down a laundry list, Steve, and I'm happy to, and I'll put out some of the graphics and charts.

00:08:49.000 I can get those to your team.

00:08:51.000 They're on my social media.

00:08:53.000 And we'll keep putting them out.

00:08:54.000 But the key here is, is that when you add all that up, we're not getting the policies we want.

00:08:59.000 But importantly, we're losing the savings and the cost of this thing is going up.

00:09:04.000 Because, look, you and I both want all the tax cuts.

00:09:07.000 We want them extended.

00:09:08.000 We want them permanent.

00:09:09.000 But there's a reality that you've got to figure out the math.

00:09:12.000 You've got to have the spending restraint going alongside that, right?

00:09:15.000 So Medicaid, right?

00:09:17.000 Our hardworking Americans don't need to have their Medicaid taken away. 0.65

00:09:21.000 But the able-bodied who should be working, the people that are engaging in fraud, the people that are, you know, abusing the system in a money laundering scheme to enrich hospitals and insurance companies, those guys, we need the reform.

00:09:35.000 So that's what's all getting watered down over in the Senate.

00:09:40.000 So we're going to keep working on it, trying to get that back.

00:09:43.000 And again, the Green News scam, we want those things to end.

00:09:46.000 I mean, again, in the House, Steve, we only, like I fought like frickin' cats and dogs to get 60% of it taken out, right?

00:09:54.000 And we think we did that.

00:09:56.000 It was a good bill to get rid of the 60% future projects, but it would leave all of the existing projects in place, which personally I don't think is good enough.

00:10:04.000 But, you know, you take the deal that you can get.

00:10:06.000 Well, now the Senate's watering that down. 0.88

00:10:08.000 So now we would allow probably half or some significant chunk of future projects.

00:10:12.000 And that's not what termination means.

00:10:14.000 You've got to end these scam subsidies or we're not going to have a strong grid and we're going to continue to empower China. 0.95

00:10:20.000 They also watered down.

00:10:21.000 We had language in our bill to prohibit some of this stuff going to China and the foreign interest for solar panels and batteries and all that stuff.

00:10:28.000 They watered that down because most of these guys want to protect their corporate cronies in their states and their districts who are, oh, I need my subsidies so I can have a better bottom line.

00:10:39.000 Well, that's not what the American people sent us here to do, Steve.

00:10:44.000 The first line of defense is the Senate.

00:10:46.000 It's Ron Johnson and Mike Lee and these hawks in the Senate.

00:10:50.000 Do you anticipate that they will get a lot of this change even before it comes back to you guys?

00:10:55.000 I'm hopeful.

00:10:57.000 Rick Scott, Mike Lee, Ron Johnson, you point out very well.

00:11:00.000 Those three in particular have been working very hard to try to improve the bill.

00:11:04.000 They're holding the line.

00:11:06.000 They need to keep holding the line.

00:11:07.000 Look, they're going to get a lot of pressure from the White House, which, you know, God love them.

00:11:11.000 They're my friends and we want to get the border money and we want to get the taxes extended.

00:11:15.000 We want to deliver for the president, but we've got to get something better than we're getting.

00:11:20.000 And so these guys are going to have to hold the line.

00:11:22.000 We need the White House to put pressure on the moderates, not the conservatives, but pressure on the moderates to stop messing with the deal.

00:11:30.000 And hopefully the Senate can hold the line and get it over to us so we can pass it.

00:11:35.000 But I can promise you there's a bunch of us over here in the House who are not happy with it if they were letting the Senate send it over to us.

00:11:45.000 By the way, you can't see this, but the front page of the Financial Times of London is a massive story.

00:11:50.000 Investors flee U.S. long-term bonds in fear of soaring debt, $11 billion outflow.

00:11:56.000 And it's exactly because of debt and the deficits.

00:11:59.000 Are people up there taking this seriously that now we're not able – we're kind of like in Japan where investors are uncomfortable buying 20-year and 30-year bonds from the United States government?

00:12:10.000 Steve, finally, way too late, my colleagues are starting to wake up to this reality, which is why we got the bill that we got through the House.

00:12:19.000 But the problem is too many of the senators and too many of my colleagues still don't get the urgency, and they don't understand that to get this done, they're going to have to make tough decisions, right?

00:12:30.000 You have to make the hard calls.

00:12:32.000 You've got to go look to somebody who built a solar company based on the subsidies and saying, sorry, man, you made a bad bet.

00:12:39.000 But we're going to stop the subsidies.

00:12:41.000 You know, we'll give you a year to wind it down, but we're done.

00:12:44.000 And we've got to look at people and be honest about it.

00:12:46.000 We've got to tell people that, hey, Medicaid needs to be there for the hardworking people who depend on it.

00:12:51.000 But we're not going to allow the able body to get seven times as much money as the vulnerable.

00:12:56.000 We're going to fix it.

00:12:57.000 We're going to end the money laundering.

00:12:58.000 We're going to end the grips.

00:12:59.000 And you've got to tell the hospitals you're not going to keep getting all of this subsidized money.

00:13:05.000 So these guys have got to get serious about it.

00:13:08.000 You know, Republicans are always good about the tax cuts, but they're never good about the spending cuts.

00:13:13.000 And so here we sit, $37 trillion in debt.

00:13:17.000 Chip Roy, where do people go on your social media to find you over the weekend?

00:13:23.000 I know you're going to be putting stuff up, and it's going to be a long work weekend on Capitol Hill.

00:13:27.000 It is.

00:13:28.000 It is.

00:13:29.000 I'm not going anywhere.

00:13:30.000 Chip Roy T-X-C-H-I-P-R-O-Y-T-X on Twitter slash X.

00:13:35.000 Rep Chip Roy is my official account.

00:13:38.000 And I appreciate you, Steve.

00:13:39.000 Keep us, you know, keep the spotlight on this stuff, you know, all the posse out there.

00:13:44.000 Stay focused.

00:13:45.000 We've got to deliver for the president, but we've got to deliver the right bill, not just a bill.

00:13:48.000 It's got to be the right bill.

00:13:49.000 We've got to stop the spending that's killing our country, driving up inflation, making houses unaffordable,

00:13:54.000 killing capital formation like you just described.

00:13:57.000 So we've got to stick with it.

00:13:59.000 Chip, thank you very much, Congressman.

00:14:02.000 We'll check in with you this afternoon and over the weekend.

00:14:05.000 Thanks, Steve.

00:14:06.000 God bless.

00:14:07.000 Folks, President of the United States not going to Bedminster.

00:14:12.000 He's sticking around the White House for the weekend.

00:14:14.000 The reason is the grind is starting.

00:14:16.000 Financial Times of London giving you the bad news right there that long-term bonds, a huge outflow,

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00:14:26.000 Very disturbing.

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00:16:28.000 Can you tell us, were you satisfied with the briefing today?

00:16:30.000 Yeah, let me give you some thoughts about what just transpired in there this morning.

00:16:36.000 We talked about how historic and fateful these moments are.

00:16:40.000 This is a historic time that we live in, and this has been an incredible two weeks.

00:16:45.000 Of course, it began with Israel's strikes that were targeted against Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile programs.

00:16:53.000 They eliminated nearly the entire top echelon of Iran's military command and nuclear scientists.

00:17:01.000 And then, of course, this past weekend, the United States acted as we needed to act.

00:17:06.000 And we had our military forces, of course, strike the heart of Iran's nuclear weapons program. 0.88

00:17:13.000 We delivered a major setback that resulted then in a feeble face-saving response from Iran and immediately thereafter a ceasefire agreement.

00:17:23.000 We want to commend President Trump for his decisive and bold leadership.

00:17:27.000 Let me have it.

00:17:29.000 Let me have it.

00:17:30.000 This is more Johnson's happy talk.

00:17:32.000 Today, I hope they drill down because, look, it's total obliteration, but I hope they drill down on what was the sense of urgency even have to go to this?

00:17:42.000 Nobody still answers that question.

00:17:44.000 It's one of the reasons Tulsi Gabbard's kept out of these things.

00:17:46.000 That is the key point, folks.

00:17:48.000 What was the sense of urgency?

00:17:50.000 Nobody has come through and put that on the table.

00:17:53.000 Jim Rickards, first off, I want to go.

00:17:57.000 You've got breaking news right now, Rickards, which is huge.

00:18:00.000 What happened to the Supreme Court a few minutes ago?

00:18:03.000 Well, I'm an analyst, not a reporter, but I happen to be a lawyer.

00:18:06.000 The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that these nationwide injunctions by the federal district courts exceed their authority.

00:18:13.000 It doesn't mean they can't rule.

00:18:14.000 They have to confine those injunctions to their district, to the parties.

00:18:18.000 They can't stop nationwide policy in the White House sitting in some district court in Boston or anyplace else.

00:18:25.000 Now, what's interesting about it was 6-3, not 5-4.

00:18:29.000 Amy Coney Barrett wrote the opinion, which is a big deal, so she's on board with this.

00:18:34.000 The case involved birthright citizenship, but that's not what the Supreme Court was really talking about

00:18:39.000 because that case is going to go forward in the district with these new limitations.

00:18:43.000 But the principle that district courts cannot issue nationwide injunctions is historic.

00:18:47.000 That's going to stop 100 cases on 20 different issues, you know, immigration, environment, EPA, everything else.

00:18:53.000 It's going to put these district court judges in their place. 1.00

00:18:55.000 So this is an historic ruling.

00:18:57.000 It's definitive in the sense that it's 6-3, and it's nice to see Amy Coney Barrett and John Roberts, for that matter, on the right side of it.

00:19:04.000 It's a very big deal.

00:19:06.000 This is, Jim, because you're a lawyer.

00:19:09.000 I'm going to have Josh Hammer on here in a little while.

00:19:12.000 This is the way that the judicial insurrection tried to stop President Trump, correct?

00:19:18.000 I mean, they judge shop.

00:19:20.000 They go to San Francisco.

00:19:21.000 They go to the Rhode Island.

00:19:23.000 They get this judge, and these judges do these TROs and injunctions to shut President Trump's Article II policies down.

00:19:31.000 Is that correct?

00:19:33.000 That's absolutely right.

00:19:34.000 And one of the criticisms of John Roberts for, I mean, for a couple decades, is that he cares more about the court and the status of the Supreme Court than about some of the issues in front of him.

00:19:44.000 And that actually is the legacy of Bush versus Gore.

00:19:47.000 That pushed things, that was Rehnquist, but that pushed things about as far as they can go.

00:19:51.000 So Roberts is attentive to that.

00:19:52.000 But what's happening now, and insurrection is a good word, these district court judges are, they're not even close on the law.

00:19:59.000 This is a judicial insurrection.

00:20:01.000 I think that's a good way to put it.

00:20:03.000 Roberts now sees that as the threat to the court.

00:20:05.000 When you have members of Congress and people like Mike Davis, who know this stuff inside out, saying, you know, the district courts are not in the Constitution.

00:20:14.000 The only court is the Supreme Court.

00:20:16.000 There's nothing stopping the Congress from eliminating these district courts or getting rid of some of these judges.

00:20:20.000 So when Roberts sees that, he says, hey, we have a threat to the court, but it's coming from a different direction.

00:20:25.000 I've got to reign these district courts in. 0.97

00:20:27.000 And they just did it big time.

00:20:28.000 And, again, birthright citizenship was the issue.

00:20:30.000 But that was not the point the court was making.

00:20:33.000 They're saying no more, not quite no more.

00:20:35.000 But nationwide injunction is going to be rare.

00:20:37.000 They're going to be subject to a lot of review.

00:20:39.000 And, you know, confine your ruling to your district.

00:20:41.000 That's a big deal.

00:20:42.000 Because it turns the table.

00:20:43.000 See, when you have a nationwide injunction, the administration has to go.

00:20:46.000 Every single illegal immigrant's got a habeas corpus petition.

00:20:50.000 And you'll never get there.

00:20:51.000 How are you going to deport a million people if you have to have a million court hearings?

00:20:54.000 But now what the Supreme Court did, they say confine your rulings to this district.

00:20:58.000 That means the White House can go ahead with all the other deportations.

00:21:02.000 They're not being stopped.

00:21:05.000 Tell the audience, why is 6-3 so important here, sir?

00:21:10.000 Well, look, 5-4 would have been enough.

00:21:13.000 But lawyers look at these things.

00:21:15.000 These rulings establish precedents.

00:21:17.000 The circuit courts are obliged to follow them.

00:21:20.000 Well, the district court is going to have to follow them.

00:21:22.000 They've just been told to get in line.

00:21:24.000 But it just carries more weight.

00:21:26.000 I mean, legally, 5-4 would have been the same as 6-3.

00:21:29.000 But 6-3 makes a louder statement.

00:21:31.000 And, you know, if you're an up-and-coming, even if you're a liberal or a Biden appointee at the district court level,

00:21:37.000 a lot of these guys and women, you know, they aspire to be circuit court judges.

00:21:40.000 What judges actually care about?

00:21:42.000 They don't like to get overruled.

00:21:43.000 I mean, independent of where you are in the substance of a case, getting overruled is like a black mark in your copybook.

00:21:50.000 And so they're going to fall in line behind this.

00:21:53.000 That's why it's a very big deal.

00:21:54.000 But just it speaks a little louder.

00:21:56.000 And particularly Amy Coney Barrett, she people can't quite figure her out because everyone wants to put everybody in a box. 1.00

00:22:03.000 You know, you're progressive or you're conservative, liberal or, you know, MAGA, whatever.

00:22:07.000 But that's not the box she fits in.

00:22:09.000 She's very by the book.

00:22:10.000 She's a very good lawyer and a good judge. 0.76

00:22:12.000 And so for her to come on board, that means that this thing passes a lot of legal tests that the layman might not be aware of.

00:22:19.000 It's not it's not all politics.

00:22:20.000 The law has a lot to do with it.

00:22:22.000 But she's rigorous by the book.

00:22:23.000 And she came out, you know, in my view, the right way.

00:22:26.000 Jim, I want to go now to the intelligence brief as I gave it to the Senate.

00:22:31.000 Yes.

00:22:32.000 I mean, you've seen the ones at the Pentagon.

00:22:33.000 President Trump saying, hey, total obliteration.

00:22:36.000 The Senate yesterday kind of broke down on party lines.

00:22:38.000 They just gave it to the House.

00:22:40.000 I my belief is they're not focused enough on the inciting incident, like the urgency to really on the on the bomb debt damage assessment.

00:22:49.000 What is your sense?

00:22:50.000 You're you're an Intel specialist.

00:22:52.000 I think you worked at a while.

00:22:54.000 Oh, you had an affiliation with the guys at Langley.

00:22:57.000 What is your interpretation where we stand just on the Intel part?

00:23:01.000 Well, this has its roots in WMD.

00:23:04.000 And let me explain why WMD was an intelligence community fiasco. 0.62

00:23:08.000 Now, whether it was bad, bad analysis, outright lying or wishful thinking, I'll leave that to the historians.

00:23:15.000 But it was it was they were just wrong.

00:23:17.000 Hang on.

00:23:18.000 You're saying you're saying back.

00:23:19.000 Hold it.

00:23:20.000 You're saying I just want the audience.

00:23:21.000 You're saying weapons of mass destruction back from the 2003 time from the Iraq war, the weapons of mass destruction Intel.

00:23:27.000 OK, go ahead.

00:23:28.000 Correct.

00:23:29.000 Yeah.

00:23:30.000 Now, I was not on the WMD case, but I was at the agency in the aftermath of that.

00:23:34.000 There was a guy head of the National Intelligence Council, which is the creme de la creme of analysts named Dr.

00:23:40.000 Thomas Finger.

00:23:41.000 And I worked with Dr.

00:23:43.000 Finger quite a bit.

00:23:44.000 And he was put in charge of cleaning this up.

00:23:46.000 We don't want this to happen again.

00:23:47.000 So what can we do?

00:23:48.000 So what they did, they came up with practically a grammar book, a vocabulary.

00:23:53.000 And a lot of words you hear out of the intelligence community in these leaks and in public testimony, you can't take it as plain English.

00:24:00.000 When you hear we assess that, you know, fill in the blank, who says assess in a normal conversation?

00:24:04.000 Nobody.

00:24:05.000 But that's in this, I'll call it the CIA, you know, grammarian or grammar book.

00:24:10.000 And they put everything in the context of probabilities because nobody wanted to be certain about anything.

00:24:15.000 So whenever you say we assess with something that you didn't do much with a low probability, et cetera, that's not plain English.

00:24:21.000 That's these guardrails they put on.

00:24:24.000 The problem is when you, first of all, the probability, not to get too geeky, but the degree distribution is a normal curve.

00:24:31.000 Well, I'm sorry, the real world terrorism, you know, wars, et cetera, are not distributed in a bell curve.

00:24:38.000 It's something called a power curve where really extreme events happen with much greater frequencies.

00:24:43.000 They got the wrong model, for starters.

00:24:45.000 Number two, these words are designed to avoid certainty.

00:24:50.000 Well, some things are binary.

00:24:51.000 They either happened or they didn't and say, you know, et cetera.

00:24:54.000 So Tulsi and Radcliffe, I think to his credit, has not been out there very much.

00:25:00.000 I don't think the head of the CIA should be.

00:25:02.000 But they're constrained.

00:25:04.000 They're in a grammatical, analytical straitjacket.

00:25:08.000 And so just to rise to Tulsi's defense a little bit, now, about a month ago or maybe a little bit longer,

00:25:13.000 she testified that Iran was not making a bomb.

00:25:17.000 That's not her exact words.

00:25:18.000 That's, in effect, what she said.

00:25:19.000 Well, Trump said they were and she was wrong and they bombed it, et cetera.

00:25:24.000 But just to give her a little credit, she was being very literal, meaning there was nobody sitting there with a screwdriver

00:25:28.000 putting the bomb together at the time.

00:25:30.000 She didn't say they didn't have highly emission radium.

00:25:32.000 They do.

00:25:33.000 They have centrifuges.

00:25:34.000 Why do you enrich to 60% if you're not making a bomb?

00:25:37.000 Why are you buried at 400 feet underground if you're not making a bomb, et cetera?

00:25:41.000 But Iran was clearly moving in that direction.

00:25:44.000 But Tulsi couldn't say they're making a bomb.

00:25:46.000 She was doing it very literally.

00:25:48.000 Now, one thought, and I don't know this for sure, but I'll just lay it out there.

00:25:52.000 How do we know that Tulsi's testimony wasn't part of the covert action?

00:25:56.000 Meaning, you know, they flew those B2s to Guam to, you know, head fake, throw everybody off. 0.99

00:26:01.000 You know, Guam's a long way from Iran. 0.98

00:26:04.000 Meanwhile, they're coming over the North Pole.

00:26:06.000 Trump said, I'm going to give you two weeks to figure this out.

00:26:09.000 He bombed them, like, a couple days later.

00:26:11.000 So it was a brilliant execution of a covert action.

00:26:16.000 Well, no, clandestine, sorry.

00:26:17.000 But the point being, how do we know that wasn't part of it?

00:26:20.000 You know, hey, you're sitting there in Tehran.

00:26:22.000 Director of National Intelligence just said they're not making a bomb.

00:26:25.000 You let down your guard.

00:26:26.000 So I'll leave it out there as to whether that wasn't part of the plan.

00:26:29.000 But let's assume that she was being literal.

00:26:31.000 She's in this straitjacket.

00:26:33.000 Now, good analysis, where's the creativity?

00:26:36.000 Where's, and by the way, the way you solve these problems is something,

00:26:39.000 again, I don't mean to be too geeky, is something called Bayes Theorem,

00:26:42.000 which is designed for solving problems when you don't have all the information.

00:26:46.000 I would say, if you have all the information,

00:26:48.000 a bright high school kid can figure it out.

00:26:50.000 The art of intelligence is how do you figure it out

00:26:52.000 when you don't have all the information?

00:26:54.000 And they're using the wrong tools.

00:26:56.000 This Bayes Theorem is designed for that,

00:26:57.000 because you update, update, update based on new information.

00:27:00.000 So I think Trump's making a mistake by sidelining Tulsi.

00:27:04.000 I think Tulsi had a grammatical straitjacket on

00:27:07.000 because of the work of Tom Finger.

00:27:09.000 And I think they ought to tear that.

00:27:10.000 I told him at the time, I said this, you know, yeah,

00:27:12.000 you've got to fix this problem, but this is not the way to do it.

00:27:16.000 Jim, can you hang on?

00:27:19.000 I want to keep you here for a couple more segments,

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00:30:14.000 Okay.

00:30:15.000 I want to thank Jim Brooker for being with us.

00:30:16.000 He's going to stick around with us.

00:30:17.000 He's got a lot to go through with Jim.

00:30:19.000 Josh Hammer joins us now.

00:30:20.000 One of the big guns over at Article 3.

00:30:23.000 Josh, walk us through today.

00:30:25.000 There are some big rulings.

00:30:26.000 We just got one.

00:30:28.000 If you can explain that to us.

00:30:29.000 And you're going to come back and jump in and out as these go.

00:30:32.000 But how many of these rulings are going to be that the Supreme Court still have to give us?

00:30:37.000 And are they going to roll these out today, Monday, Tuesday?

00:30:41.000 What's your feel?

00:30:43.000 So, Steve, I was guessing that they were going to go into next week.

00:30:47.000 There are some other tea leaf reading indications, if you will.

00:30:50.000 They might actually try to get them all out today.

00:30:52.000 For instance, John Roberts has a public event tomorrow.

00:30:55.000 Typically, historically speaking, the justices like to get out all of the rulings before they kind of go do their summer session thing.

00:31:01.000 And they do the public speeches, the law school seminars, the junkets to Europe, things like that.

00:31:05.000 So, there are various indications to think that they're probably going to drop some more opinions today.

00:31:10.000 But I would not be surprised, certainly, if they go into next week.

00:31:15.000 The past couple of terms, they typically have gone into the first week of July, not the end of June.

00:31:19.000 So, there is some recent precedent for that as well.

00:31:22.000 Having said that, the opinion that we've already gotten today is definitely one of the most anticipated rulings of the term.

00:31:29.000 It's probably my personally most anticipated ruling of the term with the exception of the Scrimetti case, the transgender case out of Tennessee, which was a tremendous victory that we had a couple of weeks ago.

00:31:38.000 But the ruling today is it was teed up as the birthright citizenship case.

00:31:43.000 Steve, as I think you and I discussed on a previous appearance here on your show, the way that this was litigated kind of precluded or at least necessarily steered the justice away from issuing a ruling on the actual 14th Amendment birthright citizenship question.

00:31:57.000 Because the way that the lawyers teed it up was about the scope of injunctive relief.

00:32:01.000 So the real kind of question that we got an answer to today isn't about whether or not the 14th Amendment citizenship clause requires birthright citizenship for the children of illegal aliens.

00:32:11.000 I hope that we get an answer on that in the next few years, to be clear.

00:32:14.000 But the opinion today really only deals with the issue of so-called nationwide injunctions.

00:32:19.000 And it's a 6-3 ruling.

00:32:21.000 It's written by Amy Coney Barrett, who I've definitely been critical of at times.

00:32:25.000 Certainly, my Article III Project colleague, Mike Davis, has been quite critical as well.

00:32:30.000 But it's a solid opinion.

00:32:31.000 And, you know, she does not go the full way.

00:32:33.000 This is not a full, fulsome, here's what the Article III judicial power of the Constitution says, here's what it does not say.

00:32:40.000 It is not that.

00:32:41.000 That is what I wanted.

00:32:42.000 And hopefully we get that in the years to come.

00:32:44.000 But it is a solid victory, nonetheless.

00:32:46.000 It effectively says that the notion that there is a power of a court to issue a sprawling universal injunction to bind anyone throughout the country is not a power that exists.

00:32:57.000 It is ahistorical.

00:32:58.000 It is not the kind of thing that existed in the courts of equity back in medieval England.

00:33:03.000 It's not the kind of thing that was adapted into the Constitution in the Judiciary Act of 1789.

00:33:08.000 And probably even more kind of mouthwatering, I might say, is just the really dripping with disdain language that Amy Coney Barrett has for Ketanji Brown Jackson, the lead dissenter here. 0.75

00:33:20.000 She accuses Ketanji Brown Jackson of opposing an imperial executive branch but worshiping an imperial judiciary.

00:33:27.000 This is a pretty fiery language for Amy Coney Barrett, who is not necessarily always the fieriest of the justices on the court there.

00:33:34.000 So there's a lot of good stuff in here.

00:33:36.000 It is a strong, strong partial victory for the Trump administration there.

00:33:40.000 And I guess we'll just have to see how it plays out from here.

00:33:43.000 You're talking about imperial judiciary.

00:33:45.000 I mean this has been the fight where this judicial supremacy and this is what the progressives have used to chop block President Trump, right, on his Article II powers, everything he's trying to accomplish with the theory to delay is to deny.

00:33:58.000 Is this now – because we just had the Supreme Court ruling the other day about the bad hombres being sent out, and I think that they've had to – they're going after now judges in Maryland because district judges are not following the Supreme Court, right?

00:34:12.420 So is this – is this going to have an impact?

00:34:15.480 I mean these district judges even going to pay attention to this, sir?

00:34:20.080 No, it's a legitimate question.

00:34:21.360 I – we are currently at a state where these lower courts are just so brazenly flipping their fingers, not merely at President Trump, but as we saw with Judge Murphy, Massachusetts, so brazenly sticking their middle fingers at their own purported bosses or their own actual boss, I should say, in the Article III hierarchy there, that it's hard to know what it will actually take to try

00:34:42.340 to corral these lower court judicial insurrectionists and actually bring them in line.

00:34:46.660 Certainly in my personal capacity and we at Article III project, we've been supportive of everything including jurisdiction stripping legislation, abolishing judgeships, filing articles of impeachment as necessary against rogue judges.

00:34:58.460 Certainly I think Judge Brian Murphy, the one in Massachusetts who literally is just straight up ignoring the Supreme Court order that overturned his preliminary injunction, I think an impeachment article against Judge Murphy is wholly necessary right now.

00:35:10.780 But for all these reasons, Steve, I was hoping for a stronger ruling today.

00:35:16.340 I was hoping for a definitive kind of Clarence Thomas, Sam Alito ruling that says Article III of the Constitution, the judicial power, here is what it means.

00:35:23.420 It absolutely unequivocally does not include this so-called nationwide injunction.

00:35:27.360 We didn't get that, but it's pretty good.

00:35:29.960 It's definitely pretty good.

00:35:31.240 What Barrett says is that there is strong reason to doubt on a historical basis the veracity or legitimacy of so-called nationwide injunctions, and they should not be used more than is absolutely necessary to reach the correct ruling.

00:35:45.840 Now, there is some kind of lawyerly language in there that you can kind of see how some left-wing NGOs, the ACLU, the open borders advocates, they might try to play with that language there.

00:35:54.240 They're still trying to get some nationwide injunctions there, and there's also some leeway potentially for the rogue lower court judges to kind of play with it a little bit as well.

00:36:02.440 So, again, it's not the full-out, all-out victory that I was hoping for, but it's very good, and I'm certainly quite happy from where I sit.

00:36:08.960 Given some of the cases that this court has dealt with over the last few years where they take something like this local injunction, but they talk about the broader issue that brought it, that's why a lot of us on the 14th Amendment were hoping that this is what they were going to do and address birthright citizenship.

00:36:30.040 They clearly didn't do that.

00:36:31.860 How do you get this back into the system?

00:36:33.740 Because I think for those of us that are looking for this case to do it, it's a massive disappointment.

00:36:38.860 Not that this is not important, very important, but we thought that there would be a broader ruling here.

00:36:44.040 Is the timing that we got to go back and start the process over again?

00:36:47.720 You said a couple of years.

00:36:49.040 When you said a couple of years, my heart skipped a beat.

00:36:52.540 So, Josh, we look to you for guidance on this.

00:36:55.080 What do you think?

00:36:56.620 Well, this has to be a merits case.

00:36:58.060 The actual substantive 14th Amendment citizenship clause question, what does it mean, what does it not mean, that cannot come on the emergency docket.

00:37:07.340 That cannot come kind of on the scope of injunctive relief.

00:37:10.240 That has to be a standard kind of you file a petition, you file a writ of certiorari, you get the justice granted, you have a full oral argument.

00:37:18.160 So, look, that's the kind of thing that can be teed up there, and certainly this litigation when it comes to President Trump's executive order is not going anywhere.

00:37:27.360 If anything, today's ruling kind of sort of has the effect of kicking it down the road a little bit for the rulings or for the reasons that I just said.

00:37:35.060 It does kind of then open up the potential gateways for the lower court to say, okay, I mean, this injunctive relief is not necessary here, but maybe it's necessary here.

00:37:43.740 But there is room, I think, for the Trump DOJ and for the Trump Solicitor General's office to try to cleanly tee up this, I would hope, potentially, for the next SCOTUS term.

00:37:53.720 Now, here's what I will say, though, Steve.

00:37:55.140 I will sound a note of slight caution on this for the following reason.

00:37:58.820 If I'm just being very sober here and just trying to call it like I see it there, I am unfortunately not convinced that at this exact time there are five votes on the court to do the right thing on birthright citizenship.

00:38:10.860 I really hope that there are.

00:38:12.240 I would love nothing more than to be proven wrong.

00:38:14.560 I think that there are probably two solid votes, Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito, and beyond that, I think that there are a lot of question marks.

00:38:21.420 I could see Brett Kavanaugh getting there, maybe Justice Gorsuch, but you're really starting to kind of count votes from there.

00:38:27.900 So what I would hope for, and I guess we'll see, is maybe there will be some shakeup on the Supreme Court personnel.

00:38:33.780 It's probably not looking great, to be honest with you, because I don't necessarily see Sotomayor or Katanji Brown-Jackson retiring or anything like that there.

00:38:40.480 But that is my one note of caution there, is that there is an argument to be made that it might be a blessing in disguise, that we didn't get that ruling on the merits day, because I'm not convinced that it actually would have gone in our favor.

00:38:51.020 Josh, your running mate there, Mike Davis, has got a solution to send – hopefully Amy Coney Barrett goes back to be dean of the Notre Dame Law School, but we can only hope.

00:39:06.700 Sir, where do people get your writings?

00:39:09.660 We'll basically reach out if anything else breaks.

00:39:12.140 Where do they get your writings?

00:39:13.360 You've got a great new book on Israel and Western civilization.

00:39:16.480 Where do people get that?

00:39:17.780 Where do they get everything related to Josh Hammer on socials?

00:39:21.240 Yeah, so I'm on xjosh__hammer, Instagram joshbhammer.

00:39:24.360 The book, as you kindly mentioned, is Israel and Civilization, the Fate of the Jewish Nation and the Destiny of the West.

00:39:29.700 My show, The Josh Hammer Show, available everywhere.

00:39:32.140 Books – excuse me, available everywhere.

00:39:34.000 Podcasts are available.

00:39:35.160 And then my syndicated column is up at Newsweek, Real Clear Politics, a bunch of other places as well.

00:39:41.480 Thank you, sir.

00:39:42.180 Appreciate you, Josh.

00:39:43.060 Thanks for coming on.

00:39:44.400 You bet.

00:39:44.660 Thank you.

00:39:44.980 Jim Rikens, before we get back to – before we get back to intel and geopolitics and strategy, the possibility of impeaching some of these district court justices, because they're giving the middle finger to the Supreme Court.

00:40:02.140 They're giving the middle finger to Congress.

00:40:03.660 They're giving the middle finger to the executive branch and to the American people.

00:40:06.960 Your thoughts?

00:40:07.780 Well, I doubt that they'll actually impeach them.

00:40:12.720 But starting an impeachment proceeding, kind of beginning to go through the process, is exactly the kind of thing that John Roberts does not want to see.

00:40:22.780 Independent of the merits of any issue, that begins to affect the integrity of the judicial system and ultimately the Supreme Court.

00:40:28.740 So I would say that that may be a very worthwhile avenue to pursue, not that you get it all the way, but it's one more reason for John Roberts to start to slap these guys down, you know, men and women, but start to slap them down and put them in their place.

00:40:40.760 So it's not a bad strategy.

00:40:42.300 I doubt it will go all the way, but it will get Roberts' attention.

00:40:45.400 It's the kind of thing that will, again, continue these types of rulings.

00:40:48.600 And, you know, Josh was exactly right about, you know, the substance of birthright citizenship, that's going to go back to the district court.

00:40:55.380 They're going to have a trial, see how it turns out.

00:40:57.360 It's going to work its way back to the Supreme Court, and he's right, that may take a year.

00:41:00.540 But the definitive ruling today that you cannot have nationwide injunctions from the district court except in very limited circumstances, that's the law of the land as of now.

00:41:11.000 And, again, independent of birthright citizenship, that affects 100 other cases.

00:41:14.540 It's a big deal for that reason, even though, again, Josh was right, it doesn't get to the merits of birthright citizenship.

00:41:21.120 Okay.

00:41:21.940 But hang on.

00:41:22.900 But, Jim, this is what I understand, is that the Supreme Court ruled the other day about the bad hombres and about how they can – President Trump in his Article II powers as commander-in-chief can send these guys back to other countries other than their own for jailing.

00:41:38.060 And immediately you had the guy in Massachusetts, but I think there's also a revolt of federal district judges in Maryland.

00:41:45.120 So it's – we come out with these kind of rulings, and these district judges who are, I think, neo-Marxists just say, okay, fine, we're not doing it.

00:41:55.460 So what happens – what happens, like, for instance, this is, like I said, not a definitive ruling but pretty good if these guys – because you know they're going to do the workarounds.

00:42:04.380 They're – because they're praised as heroes.

00:42:07.540 If you watch MSNBC, those district judges are held up as the paragons of the rule of law.

00:42:13.680 And anything that supports Trump or the MAGA movement is – look like lawless anarchy.

00:42:19.140 So how can we – how can we – you know, how can we depend on even this ruling being effectuated, sir?

00:42:24.320 Well, I would say the Trump Justice Department, the Solicitor General's Office and others, they've done a very good job, precisely, where they scoured the rule books.

00:42:33.980 I mean, you can make motions to remove the judge from the case.

00:42:37.500 You know, I'm not against impeachment.

00:42:39.660 I think that these – some of these judges are – you know, deserve that.

00:42:43.460 But even short of that, or if he started and doesn't go anywhere, you can remove the judge from the case.

00:42:47.520 You can appeal the ruling again, you know, get to the circuit court.

00:42:51.740 The circuit court can issue various rulings that would favor, you know, what Trump's trying to do.

00:42:57.860 And bear in mind, a few days ago, the Supreme Court said that there was no bar on deporting illegal immigrants, criminals, basically, to countries other than their home country.

00:43:08.420 So this guy – I forget his exact name, Garcia – but, you know, the human trafficker, wife-beater, smuggler, child sex trafficker, et cetera, who's been described as, you know, a Maryland dad, et cetera.

00:43:22.100 Well, we couldn't – we had to – he came back from El Salvador, but he might be on his way to, you know, Sudan.

00:43:27.660 So, you know, what – and the Supreme Court said that's okay.

00:43:31.140 So we are getting – look, it's a slow, frustrating process.

00:43:34.100 We are getting rulings, but, you know, it may be a motion to remove the judge from the case based on that conduct or various ethical considerations.

00:43:42.440 These are all – these are not taken lightly in the judiciary.

00:43:48.820 Jim, can you hang on?

00:43:49.880 I want to hold you for as long as we can keep you.

00:43:51.900 We've got a lot to go through.

00:43:53.120 Haven't even scratched the surface with Rickards.

00:43:55.060 There was so much going on.

00:43:57.420 War Room, short break.

00:43:59.680 Back with Jim Rickards in a moment.

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00:45:33.080 Bannon.

00:45:37.000 So at Capitol and Terminal today on the big, beautiful bill, the intelligence, everything else going on, the engine room has sent me to always remind me of Andrew Jackson.

00:45:45.740 Interesting ruling, folks.

00:45:47.740 Now enforce it.

00:45:48.680 From President Andrew Jackson, General Jackson, one of President Trump's favorite presidents.

00:45:54.240 And, of course, the great Andrew Jackson quote, the Bible is the rock on which our republic rests.

00:46:01.360 The Bible is the rock on which our republic rests.

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00:47:20.200 Guys, I'm going to need that clock if I'm going to get out of here to understand where we are.

00:47:27.120 Thank you, sir.

00:47:27.860 That's good.

00:47:28.360 Let's go to Jim Rickards.

00:47:31.420 Jim, do we have the clip?

00:47:33.140 Play the clip from Brett Baric.

00:47:35.280 Play this and let Jim Rickards have it.

00:47:37.960 Listen to it.

00:47:38.560 Is it ready?

00:47:38.860 It's just a fight on Capitol Hill, saying that everything had been suspended since 2003 and

00:47:44.100 had not restarted, that the nuclear program had not been restarted by the Iranians.

00:47:49.260 So did something change from end of March until this week?

00:47:53.340 Was the U.S. intel wrong?

00:47:56.240 The intel we got and we shared with the United States was absolutely clear.

00:48:01.780 It was absolutely clear that they were working in a secret plan to weaponize the uranium.

00:48:07.720 They were marching very quickly.

00:48:09.320 They would achieve a test device and possibly an initial device within months and certainly

00:48:15.420 less than a year.

00:48:16.320 That was the intel we shared with the United States.

00:48:18.760 I think we have excellent intel in Iran.

00:48:21.760 I think we've proven that.

00:48:23.260 And that is something that we couldn't possibly accept.

00:48:26.220 Whether it would be six months or 12 months or 13 months is immaterial.

00:48:30.380 Once they go that route, it's too late.

00:48:33.080 And we will not have a second Holocaust, a nuclear Holocaust. 0.91

00:48:36.960 We already had one in the previous century.

00:48:39.560 The Jewish state is not going to have the Holocaust made it on the Jewish people.

00:48:43.280 It's not going to happen.

00:48:44.180 Never again is now.

00:48:45.760 And we have to act now.

00:48:47.140 Okay, MTG joins us by phone.

00:48:52.600 MTG, they had the security briefing, the intelligence briefing this morning.

00:48:56.760 I assumed you went.

00:48:58.160 And that to me is the key point.

00:48:59.440 Not the bomb damage assessment, which President Trump obliterated, obliterated the bomb.

00:49:04.320 But actually this.

00:49:06.320 Did you come away that there's any sense of urgency?

00:49:09.080 That there's any sense of urgency?

00:49:10.620 There was any sense of urgency to actually begin this entire fiasco?

00:49:15.780 Well, actually, I'm on video, Steve.

00:49:17.700 Not on phone.

00:49:18.700 So I'm here with you all on War Room.

00:49:21.720 So I'm really happy about that.

00:49:23.760 Obviously, we can't talk about what was said in classified briefings or I'll get in big

00:49:29.020 trouble for that.

00:49:29.740 But I think what's important, the takeaway right now is important that what they have

00:49:37.380 been saying publicly and what President Trump has said is they feel successful in the bombings

00:49:43.040 that they carried out and the ceasefire that has been put in place in pursuing peace.

00:49:49.260 However, I will say that Israel, as of this morning, I saw has been bombing Hezbollah,

00:49:55.860 the Iranian proxy.

00:49:57.460 So we really hope that this thing is over with.

00:50:00.800 And that's yet yet to be seen.

00:50:05.480 So let's turn to the big, beautiful bill.

00:50:08.660 Last night, you were quite concerned.

00:50:10.200 We talked to Chip Roy earlier.

00:50:11.880 You got any better feeling for what's happening in the Senate?

00:50:14.180 President Trump is canceled.

00:50:15.940 Leaving day is going to get he's going to get an intel brief at 11 o'clock, an update.

00:50:20.100 But he said he's not going to bed, minister.

00:50:21.560 He's sticking around to kind of put the deal together and whip the vote in the Senate.

00:50:24.860 Do you feel any better this morning, ma'am, that this thing's going to be anywhere near

00:50:28.420 having the MAGA codification that we we've had before?

00:50:32.880 Well, the only thing I can say is that the people will not accept another big, fat,

00:50:39.740 basically omnibus type of bill passed by Republicans that does not deliver the agenda that they voted

00:50:46.880 for. And I fully 100 percent stand with them.

00:50:50.640 And what's happening in the Senate was shocking yesterday, watching out the provisions,

00:50:56.380 the provisions that we put in that strips away funding from sex change surgeries for children.

00:51:02.660 I want to go off on that one for a minute, see, because that's an executive order by President

00:51:07.000 Trump. And that is also my most important bill that I have, Protect Children's Innocence

00:51:12.780 Act that's already passed through judiciary and just needs a vote on the House floor to

00:51:17.320 make it a felony, criminalized sex changes on children.

00:51:20.720 So that would be completely unacceptable in the House, not just for me, but a massive majority

00:51:26.600 of Republicans would would not accept that.

00:51:29.860 Also, the Senate parliamentarian stripped out our provision that stopped Medicaid and Medicare

00:51:35.380 going to illegal aliens.

00:51:37.740 That one's also a hard no in the House, as well as the Green New Scam tax credits. 0.86

00:51:44.120 That's absolutely what we are trying to get rid of.

00:51:46.900 And that's what people voted to end the Green New Deal.

00:51:49.580 So there's there's many things in there that needs to continue.

00:51:53.160 Although, Steve, the Senate parliamentarian did not strike out the 10 year moratorium for

00:51:58.760 AI on states to have their right to regulate and make laws on AI for 10 years.

00:52:04.940 I'm going to tell you that's a hard no for me, a hard no.

00:52:08.560 And I'll tell you why.

00:52:09.960 There is no legislation currently in Congress for AI, the future of AI.

00:52:16.220 So there is no way state rights should be tied behind their back to make regulations and

00:52:21.640 laws for 10 years.

00:52:23.400 And I have a lot of support behind me on that.

00:52:25.540 I was the first that came out on that one, the first Republican that came out against it.

00:52:30.160 But now 40 state attorney generals have written a letter saying absolutely not to the 10 year

00:52:35.900 state moratorium.

00:52:37.360 Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders came out against it this week with an op ed and many other governors

00:52:43.120 across the country.

00:52:44.300 So we haven't stopped the fight yet.

00:52:46.720 We're going to pass the agenda that President Trump campaigned on.

00:52:50.260 We are going to make sure the people get what they voted for.

00:52:53.200 And we will not stop fighting up here in Washington until that happens.

00:52:59.840 Congressman, what is your social media so people can keep up with you today?

00:53:03.180 Because this is a dogfight up there, ma'am.

00:53:05.280 Yeah, you can follow me on Rep MTG and also Tucker.

00:53:08.820 I want to let everyone know Tucker Carlson just dropped his interview with me from this

00:53:14.860 week.

00:53:15.380 So please tune in and watch that.

00:53:17.320 We will watch it and we will push it out, ma'am.

00:53:21.780 Thank you, Congressman.

00:53:22.700 Appreciate you.

00:53:23.280 Thank you, Steve.

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Bannon's War Room - June 27, 2025

Episode 4591： Updates From House Intel Briefing; Major SCOTUS Rulings

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