Bannon's War Room - June 30, 2025


Episode 4596： Battle For The Beautiful Bill; Vote-O-Rama Begins


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Learn English with Donald Trump. President Donald J. Trump delivers a message of hope and hope to the American people on the eve of the July 4th recess, as the Senate votes on a Republican health care bill that could lead to millions losing their health care coverage.

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00:00:00.000 Late on Saturday, the Republican-led Senate advanced the package following a dramatic drawn-out process that spanned hours, bringing it one step closer to passage.
00:00:10.800 It narrowly advanced after Majority Leader John Thune and Vice President J.D. Vance struck a deal with the holdouts.
00:00:17.580 Trump also stayed in Washington over the weekend to engage in the whip effort, calling senators and hosting meetings.
00:00:24.380 Ultimately, the vote was 51-49, with two Republicans, Senator Tom Tillis, who you heard earlier, and Rand Paul, joining all the Democrats in opposition.
00:00:35.220 Yesterday, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office published its analysis of the bill, saying it would increase the national debt by $3.3 trillion over the next 10 years.
00:00:45.840 It's also projected that the proposed legislation would lead to more than 11 million people losing their health insurance by the year 2034.
00:00:56.260 Minority Leader Chuck Schumer spoke on the Senate floor on Sunday, accusing Republicans of falsifying the math to get the bill across the finish line.
00:01:04.680 This piece of legislation is corrupt.
00:01:08.420 This piece of legislation is crooked.
00:01:11.620 This piece of legislation is a rotten racket.
00:01:20.980 This place feels to me today like a crime scene.
00:01:25.320 Get some of that yellow tape and put it around this chamber.
00:01:32.600 The midnight transfer of wealth in this bill is disgusting.
00:01:40.140 On health care and betraying a promise, it is inescapable that this bill in its current form will betray the very promise that Donald J. Trump made in the Oval Office or in the Cabinet Room when I was there with finance, where he said,
00:01:58.940 we can go after waste, we can go after waste, fraud, and abuse, on any programs.
00:02:04.920 Now, those amateurs that are advising him, not Dr. Oz, I'm talking about White House health care experts,
00:02:13.100 refuse to tell him that those instructions that were to eliminate waste, fraud, and abuse,
00:02:20.340 all of a sudden eliminates a government program that's called the provider tax.
00:02:26.720 We have morphed a legal construct that admittedly has been abused and should be eliminated into waste, fraud, and abuse.
00:02:35.700 There's still a lot of work that needs to be done in the Senate.
00:02:38.500 They can only afford to lose three Republican votes.
00:02:40.780 And then there's still all the work that would need to happen in the House,
00:02:43.600 as they would also need to clear conservatives, moderate Republicans,
00:02:47.740 all across the spectrum to try to get this bill passed by that July 4th deadline that the president has set.
00:02:52.600 In deciding whether to vote for the big, not-so-beautiful bill, I've asked a very specific question.
00:03:00.080 Will the deficit be more or less next year?
00:03:03.860 The answer, without question, is this bill will grow the deficit.
00:03:08.100 The federal government has fancy formulas and hundreds of wonky accountants
00:03:13.500 who inform us of their projections over 10 years.
00:03:17.460 But you often can't trust these projections.
00:03:21.020 In an excellent piece written by the Foundation for Economics and Education entitled,
00:03:26.700 The CBO's Projections Are Worse Than Useless,
00:03:29.800 Eric Schuller writes,
00:03:31.060 Long-term analysis and language is commonplace in U.S. national politics,
00:03:36.780 but it achieves no useful outcome.
00:03:39.480 It confuses far more than it clarifies.
00:03:42.800 It does not provide accurate estimates of long-term results.
00:03:45.980 It does not improve the average voter's understanding of policy effects.
00:03:51.060 And it gives politicians a means to claim they are being fiscally responsible
00:03:55.380 without actually ever exercising any prudence whatsoever.
00:04:00.540 Because I do sometimes wonder, and I say this with all humility,
00:04:04.680 none of us, none of us owns the truth.
00:04:11.240 But if I'm honest, there are days when I have to ask people of my faith tradition as a Christian,
00:04:17.800 are we reading the same book?
00:04:27.720 The book I know says, I was hungry and you fed me.
00:04:33.540 I was sick, I was in prison, and you visited me.
00:04:36.340 I was a stranger, and you welcomed me.
00:04:40.540 And as much as you've done it to the least of these, you've done it also unto me.
00:04:44.320 The book that I love says, learn to do good, seek justice, rescue the oppressed,
00:04:49.700 defend the orphan, plead for the widow.
00:04:55.440 Speak out for those who cannot speak, for the rights of the destitute.
00:05:01.640 Speak out, judge righteously, defend the rights of the poor and the needy.
00:05:06.880 My book says, whoever is kind to the poor, lends to the Lord, and will be repaid in full.
00:05:16.500 The earliest the House could vote on this bill is Wednesday morning.
00:05:20.080 So that gives you a sense of how long they expect the Senate to take to finish things up,
00:05:24.280 and then when they're going to get started in the House.
00:05:26.480 But I have to tell you, if you return on Wednesday, and the deadline is Friday,
00:05:29.660 that's not leaving Mike Johnson, the Speaker of the House,
00:05:32.080 a lot of time to work through this mountain of issues he is about to face.
00:05:36.640 I did a lot of reporting on this over the weekend, speaking to a number of Republican lawmakers,
00:05:40.600 and there are concerns across the conference, from moderates to hardline conservatives.
00:05:44.800 Moderates are really concerned about the level of spending cuts in the bill,
00:05:48.000 particularly when it comes to Medicaid.
00:05:50.220 The Senate's version of this bill has steeper cuts to Medicaid compared to the House's version.
00:05:55.060 A number of them are staking opposition.
00:05:56.900 By my count, at least six moderate Republicans say they are not supportive of this bill.
00:06:01.800 The main reason is those Medicaid cuts, but there's also some concerns about the state and local tax deduction cap,
00:06:07.040 and there's also some concerns about the rollback of green energy tax credits.
00:06:11.100 Now, that's just one end of the politically, ideologically, politically diverse conference.
00:06:16.560 On the other end, you have these hardline conservatives, people like Congressman Chip Roy,
00:06:20.520 Republican from Texas, who's been railing against this bill on social media all over the weekend,
00:06:25.800 complaining that some aspects of it were watered down from the House's bill.
00:06:29.180 So Johnson is taking fire from all sides.
00:06:32.580 If this does get out of the Senate, which is still not confirmed at this moment,
00:06:36.680 because there are still a lot of changes that likely need to happen during Voterama to build that coalition,
00:06:41.940 if this bill makes it to the House, Mike Johnson's going to have a tough time pushing it through
00:06:46.160 because of this wide array of concerns.
00:06:49.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:06:56.600 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:07:01.760 You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:07:06.060 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:07:07.960 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:07:09.400 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:07:12.080 It's going to happen.
00:07:13.140 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:07:16.680 Mega Media.
00:07:18.100 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:07:23.540 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:07:27.300 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:07:33.600 War Room.
00:07:34.500 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vann.
00:07:36.920 It's Monday, 30 June, Year of the Lord, 2025, last day of June, about to begin the month in which our country was formed.
00:07:53.300 July 4th is going to be on Friday.
00:07:54.820 I know the president's got a lot planned for that.
00:07:57.140 But, man, a good old-fashioned fight in the U.S. Senate.
00:08:00.860 They were anticipating they could actually do the Voterama over the weekend and get to the vote today.
00:08:07.320 That's pushed at least to Wednesday.
00:08:09.100 One of the reasons is that there are things slipping in and out of the bill.
00:08:13.440 It appears all the time.
00:08:14.680 Now, the Voterama, we're streaming that.
00:08:16.780 Grace and Mo have that up on one of our other streaming sites to make sure if you want to dip into that.
00:08:23.280 Anything exciting happens, we'll pull it out.
00:08:26.060 But I'll pull it up to the main site.
00:08:27.640 You saw all the even beginning of the speeches over the weekend.
00:08:33.040 And there's this question of are they cutting too much in certain areas that will affect not just the country but the Trump voters, on the other hand?
00:08:40.680 Have they cut enough and we have the deficits?
00:08:42.660 All I know is that the CBO forecasts over 10 years I think are meaningless.
00:08:47.700 But the administration hasn't really come back.
00:08:49.480 They've put out something, but they're not – I don't think being forceful enough of putting forward their program of growth.
00:08:55.800 President Trump just put out a true social last night that said, hey, look, it basically implies not cutting as much as he would like.
00:09:04.060 He's a guy that wants to cut.
00:09:05.640 But he says we've got to get it through and we're going to grow our way out of here.
00:09:09.540 I think that they've got Secretary of Treasury, Bassett, and head of the National Economic Council over at the White House, Hassett, have to come forward and have to start putting out.
00:09:21.560 Because this bill, the Senate bill, has a $5 trillion increase to the debt ceiling that slid in in just a couple of paragraphs.
00:09:28.760 The House has got $4 trillion in that.
00:09:32.360 And to me, that's the asset test.
00:09:33.720 I look at these deficits, unless somebody can show me otherwise, they're $2 trillion every year.
00:09:41.380 Now, we may be growing our way out of there, but I think they've got to give some backup on that so people have it.
00:09:46.840 Mike Davis joins us, Mike, after a huge Friday.
00:09:51.440 And we're trying to get Josh Hammer up in the second hour if we can track him down.
00:09:55.300 Huge – just Friday was, for the Trump agenda, absolutely massive at the Supreme Court.
00:10:01.660 But now we're back into the legislative side.
00:10:03.540 First of all, just give me your summary of Friday as you've thought about it over the weekend and how important it is, particularly as President Trump goes forth.
00:10:13.440 Because this bill – one of the reasons Trump wants to get this bill done is he needs money to actually do the mass deportations.
00:10:19.760 What Biden set up and the system they set up and taking apart ICE and the ability to have any logistics that can assist the mass deportations, that's what's in this bill is to get it.
00:10:33.920 It's one of the reasons President Trump says it's got to be done now.
00:10:36.660 Your sense of what Friday meant for us as a country and as a movement going forward to really take on this judicial insurrection, which is President Trump's executive power.
00:10:48.500 I mean, until this bill's passed, or if it even is passed, because that's still an open question right now, President Trump's got his executive powers.
00:10:57.460 Your thoughts?
00:10:59.260 The Supreme Court's rulings on Friday confirm what we've been talking about on your show for four years, Steve.
00:11:08.080 And that is President Trump's biggest and most consequential accomplishment of his first term was the transformation of the left of center court to the six to three constitutionalist courts.
00:11:23.520 These justices may disappoint us from time to time like they did on Good Friday when they made up due process rights for Trendy Aragua and MS-13.
00:11:34.580 But I think they got the message, and we saw that on Friday with a whole series of six to three rulings.
00:11:42.720 Earlier in the term, the Supreme Court ruled six to three that states, yes, states have the police power to regulate transgender surgeries on kids.
00:11:53.020 We didn't fight a civil war, so can confuse kids, mentally disturbed kids, can get mutilated. 0.87
00:11:59.320 The Supreme Court also ruled on Friday, six to three, that under a federal statute from 250 years ago, along with Article III of the Constitution,
00:12:11.340 these 800 district court judges around the country do not have individual nationwide veto, nationwide injunctions over the president.
00:12:20.240 They have Article III power, which is to decide cases and controversies of the parties properly before the court with redressable claims, nothing more, nothing less.
00:12:33.120 Another six to three ruling, parents in these public schools, the public school monopoly, the government school monopoly,
00:12:39.500 can opt out when these whack jobs are trying to groom these kids with LGBT indoctrination. 0.78
00:12:48.780 I don't think most Trump supporters give a damn what consenting adults do in their private lives.
00:12:55.680 But when you start going after the kids with transgender surgeries and grooming books and pedophiles and libraries, 0.90
00:13:02.900 that's where I think it's the red line for most normal Americans, you have age verification, six to three, 0.61
00:13:10.360 that these porn sites can require age verification to make sure you're not peddling porn to kids.
00:13:15.840 It was a very good term, and it showed that the Supreme Court is on the side of Team America,
00:13:23.560 as opposed to the three Democrat women justices who think there's a constitutional right to murder and mutilate kids and then feed them porn. 1.00
00:13:32.900 Mike, can you hang on for a minute?
00:13:36.940 I want to get to the big, beautiful bill.
00:13:41.080 A lot of issues.
00:13:42.000 Things are being slid in and out.
00:13:43.080 The swamp's trying to do its best.
00:13:45.120 Mike Davis is there as our guardian to make sure that we at least understand what's happening.
00:13:51.840 I think, quite frankly, we'll be able to stop or at least to kind of guide this back to a more MAGA place.
00:13:58.320 Mike Davis is with us.
00:14:00.140 Joe Allen is going to be here at the bottom of the hour.
00:14:02.020 A lot going on in artificial intelligence also.
00:14:04.600 He's going to join us.
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00:16:27.540 You guys have not had a voice in Kentucky politics for so long.
00:16:31.920 You guys have kind of been ignored.
00:16:33.780 You guys have been cast aside.
00:16:35.060 And together, we can send a message that will be sent around the country.
00:16:39.860 You in the grassroots of this state can say,
00:16:41.720 Enough! 1.00
00:16:42.440 I'm tired of this false choice.
00:16:44.560 We want to crush the Uniparty. 0.99
00:16:46.400 We want to end the McConnell Mafia.
00:16:48.160 And we're going to send a message to the rest of the country.
00:16:50.100 With that, I want to introduce my friend, Nate Morris,
00:16:52.900 the next senator from the great state of Kentucky.
00:16:55.180 Thank you.
00:17:11.240 Charlie, I want to thank you for that incredible introduction.
00:17:15.680 Let's welcome Charlie one more time to the Bluegrass State.
00:17:18.360 We're so honored.
00:17:25.780 Charlie knows how to fight, doesn't he?
00:17:28.160 And he fights for us when a lot of people don't want to speak up.
00:17:32.940 And I'm here today because I'm running for the United States Senate.
00:17:39.620 And it wasn't something that I thought I was going to do.
00:17:43.220 And about a year ago, I get a phone call from another hillbilly. 0.96
00:17:48.360 J.D. Vance.
00:17:51.700 And he says to me, he said, Nate, you know, McConnell, he's got to go.
00:17:58.500 And maybe you should look at that seat, at running for that seat.
00:18:01.640 Would you be interested in doing that?
00:18:03.300 And I said, you know, J.D., I said, I hadn't really thought about it.
00:18:08.380 I had, I'm a business guy.
00:18:10.820 I'm not a politician.
00:18:12.000 I've never run for office before.
00:18:13.440 And I make my living in garbage.
00:18:23.460 I am a garbage man.
00:18:25.400 And I am a proud garbage man.
00:18:27.160 And, and by the way, I think the people that do the jobs that nobody else wants to do, those are the people that we got to celebrate in this country.
00:18:36.200 And so, so J.D. and I have this conversation.
00:18:45.180 I don't really think much about it.
00:18:46.300 I just bought a company.
00:18:48.040 And I was going to run that company.
00:18:51.000 And I started seeing the people that were looking at the race.
00:18:54.140 And I said to myself, first off, we've had a terrible time with Mitch.
00:19:01.360 It's been shameful.
00:19:03.420 It's been shameful because he's let us down over and over again.
00:19:08.060 And he has sabotaged President Trump every chance he's had.
00:19:14.100 And the will of the people here in the Bluegrass State, we gave him a 30-point margin.
00:19:20.280 Think about that.
00:19:20.840 And Mitch has the nerve to go to Washington and vote against you and vote against your interests, your vote, and what you want to see with President Trump.
00:19:33.560 And I started looking at the people that were going to get in this race, and I was appalled. 1.00
00:19:38.460 Because I thought to myself, these guys, they're nothing but puppets for Mitch McConnell.
00:19:45.780 And Mitch McConnell has been in the seat since 1985.
00:19:49.680 That's when he was sworn in.
00:19:50.840 Think about that.
00:19:51.700 That's before he was born.
00:19:52.800 That's before you were born, Charlie.
00:19:54.260 Eight years before.
00:19:55.140 Eight years.
00:19:56.820 Now, now, let's think about this.
00:19:58.560 Let me have a time.
00:20:00.320 This is before the Internet, right?
00:20:03.360 No, we've got some.
00:20:04.340 We're going to dip in.
00:20:05.140 That's our own.
00:20:06.240 That's Real America's Voice own Charlie.
00:20:10.400 Okay, guys, I'll take it back.
00:20:11.840 Thank you very much.
00:20:12.560 That's our own Charlie Kirk right there.
00:20:15.520 Real America's Voice Charlie Kirk.
00:20:16.940 There's a morning Q&A with the guy that's going to upset Mitch McConnell's guy, hand-picked guy.
00:20:27.200 That's Nate.
00:20:28.040 We had him on Saturday.
00:20:29.740 If you remember that incredible commercial.
00:20:32.260 Maybe I'll play that ad later.
00:20:34.040 So, Mike Davis, the reason I want to tee up with that, that's actually live happening in Kentucky right now, is people should understand what we're still dealing with in the Senate.
00:20:43.580 The Senate is still an institution, the Republican Senate, and what we have today is still, even with all of President Trump's work, is still very much molded in the image and likeness of Mitch McConnell, is it not, sir?
00:20:58.340 It is.
00:20:59.320 I mean, the Senate is the swamp within the swamp.
00:21:03.480 It is the most swampy place on the planet.
00:21:06.980 I was in the Senate as the chief counsel for nominations for the first two years of Trump's first term.
00:21:15.200 I didn't really get along with the swamp way, so I broke every piece of China in the Senate to confirm a record number of President Trump's judges in his first two years.
00:21:29.900 So I don't think there is a Hall of Fame in the Senate with Mike Davis in that Hall of Fame.
00:21:36.980 And in that regard, if Mitch McConnell's to be known, and I've said this on the show forever, if he's been known for anything positive, it is the fact that his priority was judges.
00:21:50.200 And in that regard, he really worked with President Trump.
00:21:52.800 I mean, he was terrible about getting President Trump's confirmed on the first term, his guys confirmed into these spots in the government because he doesn't like MAGA, he doesn't like Trump.
00:22:02.540 But on the judges where we came together, I mean, you saw as tough as that was, you actually saw the best of it, did you not?
00:22:09.580 I went into the trenches with then Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell on the Kavanaugh confirmation in particular and on the lower court judges.
00:22:19.840 I was then Chairman Chuck and now Chairman Chuck Grassley's chief counsel for nominations.
00:22:25.080 I adore Chuck Grassley.
00:22:27.640 I came to greatly respect Mitch McConnell on judges because I worked with him on judges.
00:22:33.880 And I'll tell you, if we didn't have Trump, McConnell and Grassley, there is no way in hell we would have these six to three rulings that we're seeing last Friday.
00:22:43.440 And as we sit here today, I want to talk – let's talk about the process because the swamp still reigns supreme as much as President Trump is trying to take it out.
00:22:55.940 And this is – we're seeing this in the voterama, right?
00:22:58.340 And people – this is why you're going to have to be on guard for the next 72 hours and even when it goes over to the House because there's a lot changing and shifting at every time.
00:23:08.160 We know, and particularly the AI part of this, which is so important for so many different reasons, but it also is symbolic in the fact that it shows you what the swamp can do in just sliding in 940 pages, just a half a page, right, that can change literally the American economy and change how MAGA has an opportunity to benefit from the prosperity of that and also continue to get free information.
00:23:35.940 So talk to me about the process because explain to people what this voterama is, what it means, how you always have to be on watch, how the lobbyists in the swamp are going to every time be slotting things in or coming back with phony compromises nonstop, sir.
00:23:50.420 So in order to pass a budget, it has to pass both the House and the Senate.
00:23:56.620 The resolutions in both the House and the Senate have to be identical word for word, and then it goes to the president for his signature veto.
00:24:05.020 The House, you can pass a budget with a simple majority vote.
00:24:10.520 In the Senate, it requires 60 votes to pass almost all legislation, except for under the Congressional Budget Act of 1974, you can pass budget resolutions with a simple majority vote.
00:24:28.300 But there are very strict rules on those budget resolutions when you go through reconciliation with the House.
00:24:36.980 And so in order to pass with a simple majority in the Senate, like the House, it has to go through the Byrd rule.
00:24:44.260 I think it was from like 1985 from Senator Bob Byrd from West Virginia, the legendary leader of the Senate and really the chief parliamentarian of the Senate for many years, the unofficial parliamentarian.
00:24:59.980 I should say he was the Senate, I should say he was the Senate majority leader, but knew more about Senate procedures than anyone ever, probably.
00:25:06.540 And so for these budget, for these budget provisions to get through the Senate on a simple majority vote, they have to go through the Byrd rule.
00:25:14.980 They call it the Byrd bath.
00:25:16.180 And essentially the parliamentarian of the Senate will decide, looking at the rules of the Senate, the standing rules of the Senate, precedent, parliamentarian rules, whether these provisions – it's essentially whether these provisions increase or decrease revenue.
00:25:35.500 And if they increase or decrease revenue, they can generally get through the Byrd bath and they can be voted on with a simple majority vote.
00:25:43.400 But if they can't get through – if they're extraneous to the budget resolution, how the parliamentarian determines that, then it doesn't get through the Byrd bath and it requires 60 votes, which is very hard to do.
00:25:58.500 So this Byrd bath is really, really important. 1.00
00:26:01.680 It determines whether you're going to get provisions through, like, for example, cutting off Medicaid to illegal aliens.
00:26:09.280 I don't know how that would not pass the Byrd bath, but that's for the parliamentarian to decide.
00:26:14.920 She's apparently the god of the Senate and no one can question – or the pope, maybe.
00:26:19.980 She's infallible and no one can question her, apparently. 0.68
00:26:22.420 But then there are other provisions, like, for example, this AI bill where they're giving 10 years of amnesty to these trillion-dollar big tech companies like Meta and Google so they can run AI and harm kids and harm conservatives with censorship and harm content creators.
00:26:43.240 And apparently that somehow got through the Byrd bath where it can pass with a simple majority.
00:26:47.420 Hang on, because I want to spend more time on that and also – the parliamentarian has been taking a lot of shots. 0.98
00:26:55.280 And what blows my mind is she's appointed by Harry Reid, the most partisan dealmaker in the – maybe in the history of the United States Senate when he was majority leader.
00:27:07.100 She has not been replaced.
00:27:08.080 She's taken a lot of shots. 0.95
00:27:09.080 But when we get back, I want to ask Mike Davis if, in fact, maybe too much blame is getting put on her as the swamp tries to do their business.
00:27:17.040 Mike Davis – by the way, this shows you how important today is with the Voterama and particularly the AI bill.
00:27:22.900 Mike Davis was going to go and do something very important today at one of the department – cabinet departments.
00:27:28.940 But he's waived off of that to make sure that the posse is fully informed of what's going on.
00:27:34.040 I want to thank Mike.
00:27:34.820 Mike Davis is going to hang around.
00:27:36.240 Nate Morris, the garbage man, is with Charlie Kirk live in Kentucky at a Q&A and a rally to kick off his campaign.
00:27:45.400 I think it shows a lot about what MAGA thinks of the trash man.
00:27:50.260 Take out the trash from Mitch McConnell.
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00:29:48.680 Nate, build out further for people that are like, okay, tell me more, Nate.
00:29:52.040 What about you?
00:29:52.760 What are you going to do?
00:29:53.360 What are your policy agenda?
00:29:54.440 What is your kind of call to action in D.C.?
00:29:57.860 Well, first off, career politicians have driven our country off a cliff.
00:30:04.560 The people that make their living in politics, this is not what our founders designed our system
00:30:11.520 to be.
00:30:12.740 You know, our founders were farmers, entrepreneurs.
00:30:15.340 They taught school.
00:30:17.120 They had real jobs.
00:30:18.860 Both these guys, Charlie, they've never had a real job.
00:30:23.260 They've never had to meet a payroll.
00:30:26.140 And they've been living off of your tax dollars to make their living.
00:30:32.800 And, you know, that's fine for some people, but if you want to serve at the highest levels,
00:30:37.260 I think you need to do something first.
00:30:39.880 I think you need to prove that you can make money.
00:30:42.020 I think you need to prove you can employ people.
00:30:43.760 I think you need to prove that you understand the challenges of what people are going through
00:30:49.280 right now.
00:30:51.260 One second.
00:30:53.360 Let's just keep talking.
00:30:54.620 This is not a town hall.
00:30:55.580 Okay, thank you.
00:30:56.000 Keep going.
00:30:56.720 And, look, I'm here because I want to serve.
00:31:02.540 And, you know, I grew up single mother, public schools.
00:31:08.740 I had to fight for everything that I have, just like everybody here in this room.
00:31:13.000 Nobody gave me anything.
00:31:16.160 And I want to go to Washington and fight for you.
00:31:19.440 Because I see the window of the American dream closing.
00:31:23.620 And the dream that I got to live through picking up garbage.
00:31:28.020 I see that window closing for a lot of Americans.
00:31:31.540 And I see people hurting.
00:31:33.140 And I see people discouraged.
00:31:34.820 And we almost lost our country under Joe Biden.
00:31:38.560 Yeah.
00:31:38.780 We almost lost our country.
00:31:40.680 Thank God for President Trump.
00:31:42.840 Thank God.
00:31:43.540 The window is closing.
00:31:45.440 There right there is Nate Morris.
00:31:47.140 The garbage man is going to take out the trash of Senate Kentucky politics of Mitch McConnell
00:31:53.260 and his followers, Mike Davis.
00:31:54.680 Mike, the audience, already I'm getting my phone blown up by people who appreciate that.
00:32:01.220 You see, Mike, you bring Mike Davis in.
00:32:03.260 The Viceroy, the way I first met the Viceroy in the first term is the Viceroy would be the guy that would run a murder board.
00:32:10.760 And a murder board is where you really put a confirmation candidate through the grind.
00:32:16.740 And we were doing, at that time, we were doing Gorsuch.
00:32:19.860 I was on the committee that selected Gorsuch and doing Gorsuch.
00:32:22.980 But there was others.
00:32:24.160 And I would go in and slip in down at the place that we had in transition.
00:32:28.340 And then afterwards to kind of watch these in the back and see some professionals.
00:32:32.880 And Mike Davis is a savage.
00:32:34.600 He would peel the bark off people to let them know, hey, you've got to be ready for the second, third, fourth, you know, in-depth answer when they come at you.
00:32:45.540 And so, Mike, you were going to do a murder board today.
00:32:47.180 But you believe it's so important what's happening in the Senate, and particularly in this AI provision,
00:32:53.420 that you're actually going to be out throughout the day so that you can have access to the Senate floor, correct?
00:32:59.960 Yeah, I would say this.
00:33:00.940 One of my good friends, Russ Vogts, for whatever reason, he didn't invite – he disinvited me from his second murder board.
00:33:08.820 So maybe ask Russ if he couldn't take the heat from the viceroy.
00:33:12.580 I'm not sure.
00:33:13.380 But anyway, yes.
00:33:15.140 So I skipped –
00:33:16.040 Hold it.
00:33:17.320 Hold it.
00:33:17.720 I remember that.
00:33:18.880 But Russ was ready to go even after just your first participation in the first murder board, sir.
00:33:25.520 Yeah, so I would say this.
00:33:28.400 I skipped a Pentagon murder board today because what's happening in the Senate today is so crucially important.
00:33:36.600 These trillion-dollar big tech monopolists, particularly Google and Meta, definitely no friend of President Trump and MAGA, are trying to cut a deal where they're getting 10 years of amnesty so they can steal people's creative content.
00:33:56.600 They can harm kids.
00:33:57.760 They can censor conservatives.
00:33:58.940 They want to be able to get away with this, and like they did with Section 230 immunity, like they did with antitrust amnesty.
00:34:06.940 The reason that Google, Amazon, Facebook, and Apple has market power like they do, that they have gatekeeping power over information and commerce, is because we gave them a deadly combination of Section 230 immunity and antitrust amnesty starting under President Obama.
00:34:24.160 So why the hell are Republicans going to do this again with AI amnesty?
00:34:31.240 We're going to give AI companies five years or 10 years of amnesty so they can steal everyone's creative content for their AI machines and make a lot of money.
00:34:43.700 They can harm kids.
00:34:44.420 Let me give you an example of what is coming out.
00:34:46.680 These AI chats are telling kids that they should kill their family members and commit suicide, and kids are actually doing this.
00:34:57.860 And these AI platforms like Google and Meta want to have amnesty, so there's no recourse for these family members whose kids kill themselves or kill other family members.
00:35:10.660 There's no recourse under this five-year or 10-year amnesty that these Senate Republicans want to give to these trillion-dollar big tech companies.
00:35:23.660 There's no recourse if these trillion-dollar big tech companies want to steal content, for example, steal Steve Bannon's content from the war room every day for their AI missions.
00:35:37.000 They want to say that that's fair use under our copyright laws.
00:35:40.700 They say that that's how we have to compete against China.
00:35:43.860 We have to steal like China to compete against China. 0.99
00:35:47.320 We have to have slave labor like China to compete against China. 1.00
00:35:51.280 These are the big tech platforms like Meta, for example, that spent $400 million chasing President Trump out of office in 2020 and subjected him to four years of unrelenting republic-ending lawfare, where they tried to bankrupt him for non-fraud.
00:36:09.340 They tried to throw him in prison for life four times for non-crimes.
00:36:12.780 They tried to throw him off the ballot unconstitutionally.
00:36:15.920 Trump's opponents tried to take off his head when they underfunded his Secret Service and said to put a bullseye on him from Joe Biden.
00:36:24.260 Twice they tried to kill him.
00:36:25.900 And now we're going to reward these big tech companies with amnesty so they can target creators.
00:36:33.200 They can target kids.
00:36:34.500 They can target conservatives with their censorship.
00:36:38.180 Why the hell are we doing this?
00:36:39.460 Have we not learned our lessons from the last 20 years?
00:36:43.060 Okay, two things.
00:36:46.340 Number one, what they're telling President Trump and what they're – when you talk to these guys up in the Senate and all the consultants up there, they're saying, hey, Bannon, you and the Warren Posse are all about taking down the CCP and you're about – you back Laobai Jing.
00:37:00.420 And you guys are the first to identify China and the CCP as the existential threat not just to the Chinese people, not just to the American people, but to the whole world. 0.86
00:37:10.120 And if you let rubes in Missouri and Tennessee and Kentucky and Idaho and Montana and Michigan and bib overalls actually be able to control the advance of artificial intelligence when there's already been a Sputnik moment and we're trying to catch up to the Chinese Communist Party, you're putting national security. 0.87
00:37:29.900 You're putting the fate of the nation and the world in jeopardy because you guys are whining a little bit about they're going to take President Trump's The Art of the Deal or one of Steve Bannon's great classic documentary films and use it for free to make sure that the machine learning – that the machine learns faster.
00:37:50.660 Your response, sir?
00:38:20.660 It's dry and dry because Google is dry because Google is a monopolist, right?
00:38:22.920 And so they had to – our American military and intel agencies had to scramble to make up for Google pulling out of America's drone program under Project Maven.
00:38:34.900 At the same time, what is Google doing?
00:38:37.560 Project Dragonfly, where Google is doing the CCP censorship program.
00:38:44.080 So Google will not do Project Maven for America, but it will censor for the CCP under Project Dragonfly.
00:38:51.980 These are not pro-America companies.
00:38:54.480 These are CCP companies, and they have demonstrated that over and over and over again.
00:39:00.760 And again, should we all work for free?
00:39:03.940 Should we all be slaves?
00:39:06.000 Are we going to be like Uyghur slaves like China have so we can compete against China? 1.00
00:39:10.040 Are we going to steal every copyright in America so these trillion dollars can get more rich?
00:39:15.940 Hang on.
00:39:16.280 Let me go to the second part.
00:39:17.740 Because of Mike Davis and Joe Allen and the other folks we had on here and Josh Hawley and the Warren Posse and making calls, it's just been announced – Axios is breaking – that Marsha Blackburn, that's been on our side of this issue, and Ted Cruz, who is not on our side of the issue and doing the bidding of big tech, have come to a compromise of only five years.
00:39:39.300 Mike, it's five years.
00:39:40.460 They cut the baby in half.
00:39:42.200 Is that acceptable?
00:39:43.580 Isn't it in the first five years they'll get all their dirty work done? 0.99
00:39:47.340 The other five, that the whole 10-year was just a misdirection play in the beginning because they just want the first couple of years after three, four, five, they'll actually have this locked in and everybody will be locked out.
00:39:59.560 So the five is not really – it's a compromise just been announced.
00:40:02.980 That's what they want everybody to agree to.
00:40:04.560 But is that good enough?
00:40:05.500 Well, here's the deal.
00:40:07.220 The compromise goes from 10 years to five years, and it adds protections for content creators and kids.
00:40:14.600 But the problem is then there is a semi-truck-sized loophole in this bill where it talks about if these states try to protect kids, if these states try to protect content creators – and this – the language they use is undue burden or disproportionate burden.
00:40:32.880 If the states create a disproportionate burden on these AI big tech monopolies like Meta and Google when they're ripping off – when Google and Meta are ripping off people's creative content for their AI or where they're harming kids, if that creates a disproportionate burden on Google and Meta, then this – then the states can't do anything about it.
00:40:58.520 That's unacceptable language in this compromise.
00:41:01.320 That language has to come out.
00:41:03.300 There should be no giveaway to these AI platforms.
00:41:07.700 If you need government – if you need to be a government-sponsored monopoly and coddled like this in order to compete, then you're on the wrong line of business.
00:41:16.160 Do they think this is like NPR that they're running, that they have to have a government-sponsored monopoly in order to compete against China?
00:41:23.200 It's complete nonsense, but if they're going to have a compromise here, you need to have it where you can protect content creators, kids, and conservatives from censorship.
00:41:38.840 Mike, you're going to be up on social media all day long putting up observations of what's going on over in the Senate?
00:41:45.260 I am, and I would say this.
00:41:47.940 I would encourage Josh Hawley to step forward and do a motion to strip out this AI amnesty completely from the big, beautiful bill.
00:41:58.940 This AI amnesty is bad for creators.
00:42:02.460 It's bad for kids.
00:42:03.740 It's bad for conservatives.
00:42:05.360 It's bad for America.
00:42:06.860 Now is the time for Josh Hawley to be bold and fearless and step up and strip this AI amnesty out of this bill.
00:42:19.380 Mike, where do people go to keep up to date with you during the day?
00:42:23.420 This is another big day.
00:42:24.540 Today and tomorrow, big days for the Posse.
00:42:27.940 Article3project.org.
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00:42:33.600 The key today, we need the Posse on that top left button there on the action center.
00:42:38.820 We need you to contact both of your home state senators today, Democrat and Republican.
00:42:44.240 I don't care if you're in a deep red state or a deep blue state.
00:42:46.880 We need the Posse to activate right now and tell them to oppose AI amnesty.
00:42:52.580 We have patch-through phone calls.
00:42:54.560 We have social media.
00:42:55.740 We have pre-drafted emails.
00:42:57.340 So please, this is a crucial action item.
00:43:00.860 Go do it today.
00:43:01.600 Ask your friends and family members to do the same.
00:43:06.240 Mike Davis, thank you so much, brother.
00:43:08.280 Appreciate you.
00:43:08.920 Thank you.
00:43:10.080 I'll be back on the afternoon show.
00:43:11.760 A lot going on today.
00:43:12.620 We're going to be putting up other aspects of this, too, that you ought to be aware of, at least aware of the big, beautiful bill.
00:43:18.400 And right now, I think, questionable.
00:43:22.560 They've got 30 or 40 people in the house that are raising hell.
00:43:25.780 We'll see as this proceeds throughout the day.
00:43:27.960 Remember, with $5 trillion increase to the debt ceiling, they're going to need every possible penny they can get as far as revenue goes.
00:43:36.300 Tariffs right now, I think we're going to add $400 billion on the plus side.
00:43:42.140 Short commercial break.
00:43:43.000 We're going to have a little more.
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00:44:40.220 And it's good versus evil for all of us in our day-to-day life.
00:44:45.680 I mean, we're competing with what's on the phone.
00:44:48.140 We're competing with all the nonsense that we're getting out of Washington.
00:44:51.000 All the stuff that we're seeing from big corporations that are trying to get us to do all this crazy stuff, this woke stuff.
00:44:58.780 And it is good versus evil.
00:45:01.160 And I'm proud of my faith.
00:45:02.460 I'm proud that I accepted Christ.
00:45:05.220 And I'm proud that I'm going to be that same person that takes my faith into the office.
00:45:13.340 And with everything I do.
00:45:15.080 And, you know, I think the other thing is, we know what's right.
00:45:25.160 You know what's the right thing to do.
00:45:28.180 And, you know, President Trump, I mean, how much did he talk about common sense on the campaign trail?
00:45:34.440 You know, you scratch your head and you look at some of the stuff that the Democrats do and you say, that doesn't make any sense.
00:45:39.620 And let me tell you, when you're picking up trash, you've got to use common sense.
00:45:45.980 You've got to be on time.
00:45:47.900 You've got to throw it in the right place.
00:45:50.480 You've got to make sure people are getting what they need.
00:45:53.220 This is common sense stuff.
00:45:56.080 And I think we also need people that use good judgment and common sense and do the next right thing.
00:46:02.760 We know what the right thing is to do.
00:46:04.780 I think everybody does.
00:46:05.860 And the Democrats and some Republicans have perverted what good looks like.
00:46:14.540 And they've put us on a path that we can't even recognize.
00:46:18.320 I mean, Charlie, I think the biggest applause you got was men and women's sports.
00:46:23.220 I mean, did you ever think, would we ever think 10 years ago we would be having a conversation about, you know, the big guy that swims for Pennsylvania?
00:46:34.040 Riley Gaines is from this great state.
00:46:36.260 Yeah, that's right.
00:46:37.040 She's from the University of Kentucky.
00:46:40.320 And it's absolutely crazy that we're even having this conversation today in America.
00:46:48.600 It's ludicrous.
00:46:50.380 So, look, I think, Charlie, I'm very fortunate that I'm grounded in faith.
00:46:54.660 And I pray about every big decision, everything that I did.
00:47:01.440 Before I went on here, I said a prayer before I came up.
00:47:03.340 That's Nate Morris there with a Q&A by Charlie Kickoff, the great Charlie Kirk, to kick off his campaign.
00:47:12.300 The reason I want to juxtapose that, I want to juxtapose Nate and what they're talking about out in Kentucky.
00:47:17.040 Hey, because last time it was announced, Tillis is not going to run for re-election, about what you're going to see over the next couple of days in Washington.
00:47:25.500 For as hard as you fought and even for President Trump's beliefs, the games that are going to be played, and hopefully we're going to cover it and give you insights so you can make your calls.
00:47:34.520 The games that are going to be played are going to shock you.
00:47:37.240 And the parliamentarian, don't get me wrong, the parliamentarian is, I think, bad news.
00:47:47.020 Now, they tell us the more you criticize her on right-wing media, the more she digs her heels. 1.00
00:47:50.580 Well, first of all, the question is how the hell do we have a Harry Reid appointee as parliamentarian?
00:47:55.840 That should tell you everything you want to know about what a fixed deal it is, right, about how the Republican Party has only been controlled opposition and Fox has just controlled opposition.
00:48:04.980 How now, on the last day of June, in the year of our Lord, 2025, with all these monumental issues facing us and having won an incredible victory, and it's even bigger if you look at the Pew analysis that they always do six months after it, that we'll get to over the next couple of days.
00:48:23.840 The victory is even bigger when you see all the demographic shifts that President Trump had.
00:48:29.360 How are we in the situation on this bill?
00:48:31.660 And it's always game playing.
00:48:32.920 Like, you think Planned Parenthood is going to be defunded, then you see they only want to do it for one year.
00:48:38.440 The illegal aliens, get them off Medicaid, which is absurd, how they're even on Medicaid, how that gets taken out, but then they blame it on the parliamentarian. 0.58
00:48:48.260 Look, she's bad news.
00:48:50.240 She's got to be, by definition, she's Harry Reid's person and has not been replaced all through McConnell's time and now even in John Thune's time, was not replaced immediately.
00:49:01.080 But they're also, in the game plan that's going on, don't think that they're not hiding behind her on a lot of this, and that's why over the next couple of days, and already you have people in the house that are on fire about some of these cuts are going on or not cuts are going on and games are being played.
00:49:17.080 So the big, beautiful bill, at least another day or two, is going to be pretty intense.
00:49:20.980 We're going to, up on the streaming site, Grace and Moe, we have it nonstop.
00:49:25.100 I really love the commentary from over the weekend that people saw what had to happen even to get it to the floor, right, which was a whole, the bill stayed open, I think, for two and a half or three hours.
00:49:35.880 The vice president, J.D., had to come up.
00:49:37.580 Now, his vote wasn't needed, but he had to come up kind of with the backing of the vice, with a message kind of from the president to Thune saying,
00:49:44.660 if we've got to make some deals here and compromise, we've got to get this thing actually into the process.
00:49:50.380 If we don't get into the process, that will be a monumental defeat.
00:49:53.140 So this is highly, highly contested.
00:49:56.980 I just go back to the fact that you've got to be very careful on the cuts that you're making against working people,
00:50:03.540 but you've got to take the meat ax when it comes to corporate America.
00:50:08.560 It can't be any more of this crony capitalism.
00:50:10.520 The thing is replete with that.
00:50:12.120 And you look at this AI bill, and Joe Allen's going to get up here.
00:50:15.140 As much as Meta and Google, who are two demons, and President Trump's Justice Department and FTC have them in federal court to start to break them up right now,
00:50:27.480 Palantir is, I think, really the villain in the AI.
00:50:33.640 And Palantir, there's all kind of questions about Palantir.
00:50:36.000 Supposedly now it's gone MAGA, right, from being guys that were founded by liberal Democrats, progressive Democrats.
00:50:44.300 Once again, it's one of these things that's gone totally MAGA.
00:50:47.960 But we'll have to get into that with Joe Allen because all these guys had this amazing transformation to become MAGA.
00:50:57.800 But then you see what they want to do.
00:50:59.980 The surveillance system, what is the surveillance system they're working on?
00:51:04.060 What is this AI?
00:51:05.460 Why do they need a 10-year moratorium?
00:51:08.340 Why a five-year compromise?
00:51:10.340 Is the Chinese Communist Party really ahead of us, or is that using that as a crutch, right, to support it? 0.85
00:51:17.500 We're going to get into all that.
00:51:18.340 Also, Ben Berquam, we're going to be back at the border.
00:51:21.280 We're going to be talking about ICE.
00:51:23.220 Tomorrow, President Trump's taking a trip.
00:51:26.260 Our own Brian Glenn's going to be with him.
00:51:28.360 He's going to go down to the Alligator Alcatraz for a tour.
00:51:32.940 President Trump's going to be there.
00:51:34.020 We're going to be there with him.
00:51:35.180 Two things.
00:51:35.880 Number one, if you've seen a $5 trillion lift to the debt ceiling, understand they're going to need every penny they can get in revenue.
00:51:43.240 Like I said, $400 billion is coming in on tariffs.
00:51:46.160 Surprise for everybody there except for the war room posse who understood this from the beginning.
00:51:52.180 But the IRS is going to want their money.
00:51:54.020 If you've got a letter from the IRS, if you're late filing or failed to file, go to 800-958-1000.
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00:52:08.520 These folks can help you like nobody's business.
00:52:10.680 They've already sorted out a billion dollars of folks' tax problems.
00:52:14.420 Don't stay awake at night.
00:52:15.800 Don't fret.
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00:52:19.140 Get a real consultation of what you can do with your struggles with the IRS.
00:52:24.620 Remember, they're coming for every penny they can possibly get.
00:52:27.480 Short commercial break.
00:52:28.500 We're on fire in the next hour in Votorama Monday in Washington, D.C., in the Imperial Capitol.