Episode 4602： House Takes On The Big Beautiful Deal Episode 4602： House Takes On The Big Beautiful Deal
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Willie Chianne talks about the impact of the $1.3 trillion tax cut bill that passed the Senate and is now heading to President Trump's desk. Will it be enough to get him re-elected in 2020?
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Bill cuts Medicaid by $930 billion and another $285 billion in food assistance that SNAP
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is slashed. It provides some $350 billion for President Trump's border and national security
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agenda and would increase the nation's debt limit by $5 trillion. A number of other provisions that
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reflect Republican priorities also are included here. Analysis by the Congressional Budget Office
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found the tax cuts would give the wealthiest households a $12,000 annual increase but would
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cost the poorest people $1,600 a year. The CBO also estimates 11.8 million more Americans
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would be uninsured by 2034 if the bill becomes law and that 3 million more will not qualify for food
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stamps also known as those SNAP benefits. But who does Elon Musk represent? He came into the
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administration with an idea that you did the math on it did not make any sense which was that Doge
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was going to find enough savings to eliminate the debt at some point that you could do this tax cut
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package and you'd find enough waste and fraud to make it pay for itself. I was getting emails
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fundraising emails from Republicans as recently as yesterday asking if I want my $5,000 Doge dividend
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check. Another idea that Elon endorsed saying that there would be so many savings you were going to
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get for you the American people are going to get free money from the process. That didn't happen.
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The debt limit is being increased. He does care about that. Will he spend money against Republicans
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from the right as he's threatening? He might but I think he represents a lot of people who
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remembered the first Trump term in 2024 and remembered there were tax cuts and there were
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stimulus spending and there was a debt but maybe it was worse under Biden. And the reality of the Trump
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record this time is much more austere. He is yes keeping the tax cuts but people are going to get
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fewer benefits. They're not getting stimulus checks. I keep pointing to these fundraising emails. I think
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it matters when people are asking Republicans to give the party more money. They are suggesting
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there's going to be free stuff coming for them down the line and there simply isn't. So Musk being
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part of that whole process of spinning that Trump is going to have no trade-offs and just benefits in
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this term. If he's burnt a lot of other people who take him seriously are going to be burnt.
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That was a long time ago and this is a different Republican Party. You know over the past decade
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Donald Trump has attracted a lot of culturally conservative former Democrats who are you know
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fiscally liberal and were never that interested in small government or spending cuts and didn't feel
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like they were in the game for the kind of tax cuts that came out of Washington. And you know
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look this bill would eliminate some tax taxes on income from tips taxes on overtime pay. You'd be
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able to refinance your car and get a you'd be able to finance your car and get a tax deduction if it
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was American made. But I think the ultimate answer here Willie and this is important I think to
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understand is there just isn't a constituency for debt reduction. And so on the one hand we can and we
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should focus on Republicans who call themselves fiscal hawks or anybody who does and then you know
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won't stand in the way of a bill like this or fight harder let's say to change it. But politicians
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are in the service business right. Ideology is their approach to solving problems or crafting
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legislation but they're responsible to the voters because they want to keep their job. Nobody is
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calling up no Republican voter or few. I'm sure there's a phone booth somewhere where that you know
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there are three people on the phone but nobody's calling up Republican members of Congress demanding debt
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reduction demanding smaller government. What they're saying is protect my program where's my tax cut
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and this this is what voters think about right. The debt is just not something that's front of mind
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for them. If you poll voters they will of course say the government should live within its means. Everybody
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thinks that but then when it comes time to make decisions on how to do that everybody's pointing at
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their neighbors saying he makes more money than me. He can afford it. I need the programs that were
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promised to me and so politicians in the Republican Party are simply more reflective of that. And in
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fact one final thing here you know for years before Trump the suburban vote that was a lot more fiscally
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conservative at least ideologically was a pretty reliable Republican vote and that has really shifted
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over to the Democratic Party for many of these elections. And so you just have a different coalition at play
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here and Donald Trump is responsive to his coalition. Now they may not like what they get out of this bill
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once it's passed and they're experiencing it but I think the feeling from a lot of Republicans is
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there are a lot of things in here the president ran on. Voters did vote for him. Once we accomplish
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something not only do we at least have something to run on in the midterm elections but people are
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going to start to feel the impact of this and the positive will outweigh the negative. The Justice Department
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is aggressively moving to strip some Americans of their citizenship. NPR reports department leadership
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is directing its attorneys to pursue denaturalization in cases involving naturalized citizens who commit
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certain crimes and giving U.S. attorneys wider discretion on when to carry out that move.
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It's according to a June 11th memo published online. NPR points out the tactic is aimed at U.S. citizens
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who were not born in the country. According to 2023 figures nearly 25 million immigrants
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are naturalized citizens. Let's bring in former U.S. attorney and MSNBC legal analyst Joyce Vance.
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She's a co-host of the Sisters in Law podcast. In her latest piece for Substack Joyce writes about
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this threat to revoke citizenship. The great fear here is that what's going to go away is this confidence
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this global confidence in the U.S. that if you lend money to the United States there's going to be all
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but a guarantee that the U.S. pays you back. And so as we see this kind of spiral and spirals
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Natasha's laid out seeds of doubt begin to get sown in the minds of investors and governments who don't
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see the U.S. in the same ways they saw them before. I mean I think that what we're being encouraged to do
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here is look at all of this in a very short-term way whether it has to do with kind of temporary
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tax breaks that are in here when it comes to no taxes on tips when it comes to the kind of child
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tax credit being enlarged a little bit here. Again these are kind of just extended for a couple of
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years and and really the kind of larger extension of the tax bill is going to have this larger effect
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that's going to cause all these problems down the line. So you know you mentioned Scott Besson coming
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into this administration saying the fiscal getting the fiscal house and where was his priority.
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There was this moment that didn't take place during the campaign but certainly happened during the
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transition in the early days of this administration where this became an issue the Republicans once
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again seem to embrace and in a way Elon Musk kind of exemplified that. The rationale for a lot of
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these cuts was taking a hard look at government and making really difficult choices. Well that of course
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didn't come to pass in the way that he and his Doge colleagues promised. The cuts that they made were
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nowhere near the size of what what they promised and I think it kind of cheapened the the promise
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that they made early on here that there was going to be an administration now in place that's going
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to take a serious look at these issues. If you look at this legislation by no means is this doing
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anything to kind of again take a look at the fiscal house estate that it's in and make plans for the
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future. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a
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belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world
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to stop that but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like that go
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to share the big line? MAGA media. I wish in my soul I wish that any of these people had a
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conscience. Ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country
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this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host Stephen K. Bannon.
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Wednesday to July year of our Lord 2025. Okay what you have now the rule basically got only voted
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out of committee by one vote seven to six. Norman of South Carolina who's a deficit hawk. Chip Roy
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obviously a deficit hawk voted no for the Republicans. It's gone to the floor. You would think you would be
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getting the and they started yesterday at 1 30 and we played a clip of Chip I think asking very good
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questions on the five o'clock show and in fact at six o'clock we did a panel discussion basically broke
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it down for the entire hour. That went to I think one o'clock in the morning when they finally had the
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vote on the rule. Obviously they're trying to quick march this as they should but they've hit a snag.
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Number one I think they're still minus 100 people that haven't gotten back because of the horrific
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weather around the imperial capital. More importantly I think there's a pretty substantial
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group that are even saying now they may vote against the rule. That's a newsflash and not even
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take it up. I think there's a lot of discontent among a broad swath of people in the house as we've
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worked this overnight just got to take people's temperatures about changes from the senate bill.
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Some of the changes for the senate are just not acceptable and this deals with people are
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concerned about Medicaid for illegal aliens. They want to make sure there's not a ton of loopholes.
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They want illegal aliens off of Medicaid. Obviously Medicaid is a huge contentious issue. We've got to
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make sure because of the lack of good jobs and lack of health insurance that the working class in this
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country and even the lower middle class are make sure that they've got access to something at the same
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time. You've got to cut the fraud. You've got to cut these able-bodied folks on there. And now it
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doesn't start until December of 2026 when they have to start checking in. It just didn't put enough
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hammer in the senate bill. And when they say they're throwing people off Medicaid, remember those people
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are not eligible for Medicaid. They're not throwing anybody off. If you're not eligible, you're not
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eligible. The eligibility requirements should be stringent. This is a program to help people,
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particularly since we shipped all the great jobs overseas. But you've got to have rules. And this
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gets back to the Elon Musk of it all. Elon Musk screwed this administration and screwed the president
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as badly as you can. And hey, for all you fanboys out there that were up in my grill, oh, you're so,
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why are you so negative? Because I told you he was a total phony and a fraud.
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And now we're in a situation, they all depended upon, you know, the Pied Piper. He's the Pied
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Piper. They certainly went to the Capitol Hill on the house side. They're all running up to the
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microphone. Elon, can you please save us? Can you please save us? No. We have to save ourselves.
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And that's why there's a legitimate, I think, concern about some issues coming from this senate bill
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that people are going to want to delve into. Now, it's a pretty radical step to vote down the rule.
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That means the Republicans are saying we don't have our house in order. I also don't want to bring up
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an unpleasant topic. But Speaker Johnson made a hardcore pledge that to get the votes the first
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time, because remember, we barely passed this thing in the house. We passed it by the vice
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president broke the tie yesterday. We essentially had a tie vote in the Senate. The vice president
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can break a tie. He broke a tie. So we didn't even really get the Republican majority,
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the 53-47, to vote for this yesterday. Understanding there's tons of rhinos there. That's one of the
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problems. The house was the same situation. We barely got it passed by a couple of votes. So you
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can lose very few people. Johnson made an ironclad pledge that we need to hold him to. He told the
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people in the house to get that vote, that this is the framework that the final bill is going to be.
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You have to take my word for it. I'm going to hammer it through. And we find out during the
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senate process, they didn't even keep him in the loop. It was an open secret and then broke in the
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media. I think even some of his people admitted it. The senate leadership didn't even come back to
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him, didn't ask his opinion, just going to do what they're going to do, because they're the senate,
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they're the house of lords. And the house is the house of commons. Didn't even keep him in the loop.
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And so there are a number of members that are outraged by some of the changes that were made
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by the senate. And you heard Dave Walsh yesterday. President Trump has been adamant. The green news
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scam, and this started back years ago in Obama with bailing out all the venture capitalists
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that put their money into, all democrat and all progressive venture capitalists,
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to put their money into these Green New Deal scams, decarbonization. It's all a con. It's all
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a scam to enrich themselves. And Dave Walsh said yesterday, hey, President Trump has been adamant.
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It all comes out. It's not only not all out, he thinks it could actually hurt the electrification
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process and project to get enough electricity to support the data centers for AI, to support
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a lot of this post-industrial economy, and just the basic manufacturing economy. If you look at
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everything that's moving back here, the reshoring of the investments, which all gets baked into the
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2.8% to 3.5% growth, which is we're going to grow our way out of here, of which I might note,
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and I'll read it when we get back. The president put out a true social day. You know what the
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headline was? Growth. You heard that somewhere? That's the way this thing's got to be sold.
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The president went all in. This is about growth. His supply-side tax, his supply-side program here
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is about economic growth, getting us out of the doldrums, getting us out of 1.5% to 2% growth,
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1.7%. America doesn't work when the growth is under 2%. President Trump averaged 2.8% in his
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first three years of his administration before the Chinese Communist Party unleashed a bioweapon on him.
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And I hate to say I had to remind the economists at the Treasury Department,
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the fourth quarter of 2019 was 3.4%, where President Trump, everything started to click in
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like his plan is today. But it's got to be sold. And right now it's very contentious. This is going
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to be a heated couple of days, folks. We're going to be here nonstop. I'm not feeling that we're going
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to be signing a bill on July 4th. The reason is, if there's any changes, you've got to go back to the
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Senate. And that's what people are saying. The Senate's out of town. They've gone. So basically sign what you
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got. And let's get to the president's desk. A huge fight in the imperial capital. We're going to
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cover it wall to wall. Short break. Back in a moment.
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Okay, before we get to the nitty-gritty and the grind of the house and the rules and all that,
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because we're going to have, I think Chip Roy's going to join us, hopefully Eli Crane.
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We've got EJ and Tony is going to join us, go through the math. As we said, President Trump put
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out this great true social just a little while ago. Growth is the headline. Where have you heard
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that? I'm going to read the entire thing to you in a little while, but right now we're joined by
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Ambassador Monica Crowley from Blair House. Ambassador, tomorrow kicks off really the beginning
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of the 250th anniversary celebration of the formation of the United States. And you're
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going to do it in Iowa. You're going to be the Real America's Voice. We're honored. It's going to be
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producing the entire production. And we're going to be live from 3 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time to 10
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p.m. or later with an entire crew out there, staff, anchors, all of it tomorrow. Can you tell us,
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why are you kicking off the day before 4th of July? What's the purpose of this?
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And tell us about the whole 250 celebration that we can look forward to.
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Well, thank you so much, Steve. It's always great to be back with you from beautiful,
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historic Blair House. I'm actually sitting in the Lee drawing room. This is the location
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where the Blair brothers offered Robert E. Lee the commission to lead the Union Army,
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which he declined because he was from the South. There's also a room here called the Lincoln
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sitting room where I spent a lot of time commuting with Abraham Lincoln because he used to retreat
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here just to think. He'd build a fire and he'd just think about executing the Civil War. So this place
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has incredible history and I'm so blessed to be here. I'm also blessed, Steve, to be the president's
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representative for all of these major U.S.-hosted events over the next three and a half years.
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America 250, of course, plus the FIFA World Cup next year and the 2028 Olympic Games in L.A.,
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which President Trump heroically brought to the United States. So we're kicking off America 250.
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This is America's 250th birthday. An extraordinary, pivotal moment in our history and really an
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inflection point, Steve, because as you know, it's often been said by historians and others
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that great civilizations usually only run about 250 years before the decadence and the corruption
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and the decay set in and implode those societies and those civilizations. America is going to prove
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to be the exception to the rule. And it's largely because of the greatest president we have seen,
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certainly in modern history, and that is Donald J. Trump. So it is such a gift, Steve,
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to have President Trump in the White House during this America 250 celebration. We are kicking it off
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tomorrow at the Iowa State Grounds in Des Moines, Iowa. It is going to be a massive celebration right
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there in the heartland. I am dying to get out of the swamp. I think the president can't wait to get out
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of the swamp and really celebrate America right smack dab in the middle of the country. It is an evening
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event, although if you're in Iowa or if not, you want to get to Iowa for this event, America250.org
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has all of the information about tomorrow's event and all the events that we have planned,
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both nationally and in all 50 states and U.S. territories. But tomorrow's could be centered on
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kicking off one full year of celebration of America's founding and the brave sacrifice,
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the courage that it took for that genius cluster of the founding fathers to stake their lives,
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their fortunes, and their sacred honor on creating a country from scratch and giving us the greatest
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governing system based in human freedom that the world has ever known. So tomorrow we're going to
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celebrate with dazzling displays. We've got live musical acts at the Iowa State Fair. I'm going to be
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speaking before the president takes the podium. And then, of course, our big headliner, President Trump.
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Ambassador, let's go back. We're starting in Iowa because it's the heartland of the country.
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In America, it's like entrust Iowa. That's why they have the Iowa caucuses first. People have a lot of
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faith in the common sense and kind of the basically patriotism and grit of folks from Iowa. Is that why
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we're kicking off in the heartland for that reason? Yes. One of several reasons, yes, because it is the
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heartland. It is the center of the country. It's the salt and earth of America. Iowa is full of
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Americans who actually make this country run every single day. So we wanted to launch it there. And of
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course, the president, as he has said many times, including recently, the president has a special
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affinity for the state of Iowa, which has been very good to him electorally over the last 10 years.
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And he is close to the governor, Kim Reynolds, in Iowa as well. And he also loves the Iowa State Fair.
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And he has talked about it for years. He has visited many times before. And he's actually said later this
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summer, he intends to go back to the Iowa State Fair. So it has a special place in his heart as well.
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Wow. Walk us through. So a year from Friday will be the 250th. Just give us the big moments that you
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all are looking for and to commemorate this historic, like you said, there are not many republics that have
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lasted for a quarter millennium, right? I can think of maybe the Roman Republic and the American, and
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that's it. Walk us through just the big moments that you guys, as you look at now, are planning on.
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Yeah, sure. So let me begin by Friday. So this is tomorrow in Iowa. And then on Friday, we're back
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in the swamp. We're back in Washington, D.C. And we're going to have a massive celebration on the
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mall with the traditional fireworks, of course. But one of the things that President Trump
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is going to do is he's having the bomber pilots that flew the mission into Iran for 36 hours with
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a huge, massive success. He's having those pilots as his guest to the White House on Friday, July 4th.
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And we're going to do a very special flyover that night as well of the planes, the bomber planes that
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were used in that mission. So the B-2s, the F-22s, and the F-35s will be flying over Washington, D.C.
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So if you're in this area, please come out and see us. Again, America250.org for all of those details,
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too. And then looking ahead for the next year, Steve, I don't want to get too in front of the
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president and his announcements of what we're thinking about and what we have planned. But we
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had this magnificent, really important Army 250 parade, which was phenomenal. We're looking at Navy
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250. We're looking at Marines 250. We have those important milestones coming up. Look for something
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on New Year's Eve. We're not ready to announce anything quite yet, but New Year's Eve going into
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2026. And then starting in January, each state has their own programming because they all have their own
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250 commissions. So there will be things happening in all 50 states and U.S. territories. And again,
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you can go to the website, America250.org to find out what is planned and what's happening in your neck
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of the woods. You don't have to be in the swamp in Washington to celebrate. But what I can tell you,
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one very specific thing, actually two. First is back in the bicentennial in 1976, they did this
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extraordinary thing in New York Harbor, which I believe is the deepest harbor in America, and it can
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accommodate really substantial ships. So what we're doing is something called sail forth for America
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250. And we are doing, once again, as we did 50 years ago, the tall ships parade around the island
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of Manhattan and then up the Hudson River. So far, we have well over 44 nations that are going to send a
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tall ship for this parade. And it is going to be magnificent in New York Harbor next July 4th.
00:25:06.900
Also, I want to make mention that the FIFA World Cup, the final is also happening next July. So next
00:25:13.640
July is going to be wild and so exciting in America. But there is a FIFA World Cup match being played in
00:25:22.980
Philadelphia on July 4th next year. So Philadelphia is also going to be a real center of all of this
00:25:30.320
activity. So those are a couple of things that I can tease you with that are coming up over the next
00:25:35.800
year. But rest assured, President Trump is, this means so much to him personally. It means so much
00:25:42.180
to me. It means so much to you and the War Room audience to celebrate America's leadership, strength,
00:25:49.720
pride, patriotism, and purpose. President Trump is all about making America great again. And you know
00:25:56.520
what, Steve, in many ways, the MAGA generation is the natural heir to the Revolutionary War
00:26:03.160
generation. And Donald Trump is a direct heir of the founder's American spirit. This is what it's
00:26:11.340
all about. So what a gift it is to have President Trump as president right now to celebrate America's
00:26:19.380
As we said, it's so providential that they stole the second one so he could come back and
00:26:25.720
historically take the third one and now serve with so many historic things. Last thing,
00:26:30.860
I've only got a minute. Your primary job is head of protocol. The question, how do you find time for
00:26:37.000
that when you're juggling 10? I know President Trump always gives something more to people get things
00:26:42.580
done. But how do you actually get the protocol job done?
00:26:46.480
Yes, and that is a huge portfolio. So as chief of protocol of the United States, I and my very talented
00:26:53.520
team, I've got an extraordinary team here at protocol. This is a massive team effort. We manage
00:27:00.080
all of the presidents, the vice presidents and the secretaries of states, diplomatic engagements. So
00:27:06.620
whenever there's a foreign delegation that arrives at the US for meetings, it is me and my extraordinary
00:27:12.740
team handling all of that. The bilats, the world leader meetings, anytime we have a leader visit,
00:27:18.800
I am handling that my team is handling that. So it is a very full portfolio. Next week, we have a Prime
00:27:27.280
Minister Netanyahu coming in on Sunday into Monday for a meeting with the president. And then later in
00:27:33.260
the week, we have five African presidents coming in to see the president for very important discussions
00:27:38.940
about that continent, China's influence, America's counter influence in Africa. So very important things
00:27:46.620
happening. And you know what, Steve, I have to learn not to enjoy free time, because I have none anymore.
00:27:54.600
Ambassador, Ambassador, what's your social media so people can follow you?
00:27:58.240
Yeah, sure. At Monica Crowley on x on Instagram at Monica Crowley underscore. Please check me out there. And of
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We'll see you tomorrow in Iowa. Thank you. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, ma'am. From the Blair House, the historic
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Okay, welcome back. We'll have a lot more on the event in Iowa. Real America's Voice is going to
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produce and we're very proud of that. Brian Glenn will be their whole team. You'll have anchors all
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of it from 3 p.m. to 10 p.m. tomorrow. It's going to be extraordinary. That's Eastern Daylight
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time. Congressman Chip Royce. Congressman, there's all kind of – Twitter's on fire right now.
00:30:16.780
There's all kind of descriptions of people saying, hey, the rule vote was supposed to be 11 o'clock.
00:30:21.980
Of course, people are straggling in, but it could be kicked to early afternoon. But they're up to 25
00:30:26.900
maybe plus Republican members that are not even ready to vote for the rule yet. This is pretty
00:30:33.620
controversial when you can't get a rule vote to get it to the floor to even start debating. So can you
00:30:39.560
walk us through exactly where we stand, sir? Yes, Steve. Great to be on. First of all,
00:30:45.060
let me level set because I know your audience is such a great patriotic group of folks that want to
00:30:52.020
support what the president is doing and that to advance the MAGA agenda. And I think that President
00:30:57.780
Trump is looking for us to deliver on what he campaigned on. And this is where the crux of the
00:31:06.440
problem is. There are those of us in the House that are reviewing the bill after it came through the
00:31:11.460
Senate, and we believe it falls short. We believe that it will create too much spending, and that is
00:31:18.260
too much in the way of deficits, over the next four or five years in particular, with backloaded savings
00:31:24.120
and more deficits up front. We believe that it gutted our changes to the Green New Scam subsidies such
00:31:31.100
that there won't be an effective termination of the Green New Scam. We believe that it continues
00:31:37.000
to allow, for example, illegals to be able to get Medicaid. There are other things. I could go through
00:31:43.140
a laundry list if you want me to. But I think the bigger question you're asking is, where are we?
00:31:48.360
And I think you've noted that the president and some of his great supporters, all good friends of mine,
00:31:54.480
friends of this show, like Russ Vogt, the Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, great folks that we've been
00:32:02.120
talking to on a daily basis, they believe the answer is that the president is going to produce
00:32:06.780
growth and revenue through tariffs that will make up the shortfall that this bill produces in the form
00:32:13.380
of deficits. Look, I'm sympathetic to those guys. They're my friends, and I believe in the president,
00:32:19.380
and I believe in his agenda. But I think we have a responsibility in Congress to level set what we're
00:32:24.960
doing with the spending restraint that is necessary for growth. And a final point on that, you've got
00:32:31.060
Malay down in Argentina. They got 5.7 percent growth. How do you think they got that? They got that by
00:32:38.220
wiping out their version of the swamp by cuts and deregulation. I think Congress has to step up to the
00:32:45.000
plate and deliver for the president. That's what we're trying to do. We hope to meet with the
00:32:49.360
White House today. We had a meeting with the Speaker until five minutes ago. I'm looking up the
00:32:53.440
clocks. There's a vote that I've got to go vote here in a second on a procedural move. Democrats are
00:32:58.240
insane. Republicans have put together a product that has a lot of good pieces to it, but it's falling
00:33:03.480
short, in my view. I want the Green News scam deal fixed, and I want us to get to the place where
00:33:09.180
we're honoring our commitment to reduce deficits. If we can do those things, amend it and send it back to
00:33:13.820
the Senate, then we can deliver for the president, in my opinion.
00:33:18.700
I know you've got to bounce in a second. We'd love to get you back when you're free because we think
00:33:22.500
that this audience would be critical in actually making something happen like they did on the
00:33:26.760
artificial intelligence part yesterday. I don't normally just go to the politics, but the reality
00:33:34.840
is we couldn't pass this in the Senate. J.D. had to come down as VP and kind of break it with the
00:33:40.140
constitutional tiebreaker. The Senate is the problem, and you can see the things replete
00:33:46.360
with things that not only President Trump didn't run on, but are outrageous. We had Dave Walsh on
00:33:50.940
here for 30 minutes last night, our energy experts, saying the Green News scam is actually undercuts
00:33:56.280
and chop blocks President Trump's ability to get to the 2.8 to 3.5 percent growth, but this has come
00:34:02.940
in from the Senate. How do you just, on the politics, let's say you make the changes you want to make.
00:34:07.640
Then it goes back to the Senate. We start the process all over again, and I'm not saying,
00:34:12.220
hey, it's got to be done by Friday or has to be done by mid-July, but just the reality that you have
00:34:18.340
such a rhino and donor-owned Senate. How do you ever anticipate, with all the good intention you've
00:34:24.720
got and the good cuts and things like that, how do you even anticipate it getting passed? We barely
00:34:31.280
got this passed. In fact, we had to use the vice president to tiebreak on something that's not,
00:34:36.420
you know, is suboptimal, sir. Well, that is the legitimate question. It's the one we're having
00:34:42.480
conversations with the White House about because we want to deliver. Here's what we believe, Steve,
00:34:47.560
and I think you know this. The pressure cooker in Washington, in the swamp, for tax cuts is really
00:34:53.720
high, right? K Street, everybody in town is wired to deliver on tax cuts. There is nobody in this town
00:35:02.740
that is turning up the pressure to deliver on the spending restraint and on the reforms to things
00:35:08.580
like the Green New scam. K Street got involved, and let's just take that for a minute. Late night on
00:35:15.220
Sunday, I think it was, they had something they were trying to work out to get this through. JD
00:35:20.160
obviously came in and broke the tie. They did what's called a wraparound amendment, which is what they
00:35:24.700
did to basically pull it all together. And in doing that, they didn't run any of it by the good guys
00:35:29.980
like Rick Scott or Mike Lee or Ron Johnson or Rand Paul or anybody else. What they did was they jammed
00:35:35.340
in the provision that guts the Green New scam reforms that we put in place. They did that as a
00:35:41.600
giveaway to a couple of senators who weren't fond of what we were doing to undo the Green New scam,
00:35:47.780
which, by the way, the president campaigned on. The House delivered about a 55 or 60 percent
00:35:53.580
termination of the Green New scam. The Senate wanted to water it down. We fought it back.
00:35:59.940
Mike Lee and others fought it back. But then last minute, 11th hour, right before the vote,
00:36:04.940
they jammed that provision in there. That was the deal killer for me, Steve. I was wobbling because,
00:36:10.660
you know, I didn't think it did enough on deficits, but I wanted to deliver for the president.
00:36:13.940
The Senate sucks. We need to get the tax cuts. We need to get the border money. We need to support
00:36:19.700
what Miller and Homan and the guys are doing. I'm all on board and I'm giving a lot of deference,
00:36:24.000
but I got everybody to understand. I had already given and given and given over the last six months
00:36:29.300
that we're not doing enough on cuts. We're not doing enough to meet the moment on the mandatory
00:36:33.920
spending. We're not doing what Malay is doing in Argentina because Congress is too freaking gutless
00:36:38.840
and cowardly. The president's leading and we need to meet the moment. In my view right now,
00:36:43.400
to answer your question, we don't need to redo the whole bill, amend it, take the version we already
00:36:48.820
passed out of the House, put our green new scam language in there, make some modifications to
00:36:54.300
meet the framework that we did to keep deficits, you know, keep it deficit neutral, and then make
00:36:59.420
a few other tweaks and send it back to the Senate. And then dare Murkowski or dare some of these guys
00:37:04.620
to jam the president's agenda when what we're doing is try to do exactly what the president wants,
00:37:09.860
terminate the green new scam, have a deficit neutral approach to tax and spend policy,
00:37:14.120
and then let's call the question. But I'm not going to get rolled on the policies that Texans
00:37:18.600
care about, which is ending the green new scam and not racking up more deficits.
00:37:24.320
What about the loopholes, this thing on Medicaid for illegal? Senator Schmidt's telling us 1.4 off,
00:37:31.800
but I think there's other ways. We're not ironclad. I just don't know how we do Medicaid cuts for
00:37:37.360
working class Americans and still allow us any chance at all that an illegal alien could get Medicaid.
00:37:44.900
Is that one of the things that you're going to try to tweak as you go back to the White House?
00:37:50.040
100%. I wasn't going through my whole list, although I mentioned earlier. Let me explain this,
00:37:55.100
because your audience is the most educated of any of the audiences out there. So it is already
00:37:59.640
unlawful for Medicaid to go to illegals, right? You're not supposed to do it. But they backdoor
00:38:04.240
into it, and we've got reports showing that millions get Medicaid. So what did we do? In the bill,
00:38:10.860
there's a section. I can't remember the number, section 7-1, blah, blah, blah. And it does tighten
00:38:16.020
it some. It puts some teeth into it. The CBO scores it as saving $5 or $6 billion. So Senator
00:38:22.340
Schmidt is not wrong. There's language in there that makes it better. And we fought for that in
00:38:27.300
the House, and the Senate's got it. But the one thing we did in the House, and this is important,
00:38:31.500
and it's a part of the Medicaid scam, right? You and all your viewers and all of us want to make
00:38:37.740
sure the vulnerable for whom Medicaid was created and working-class Americans, they get the ability
00:38:43.320
to go get health care. But we don't want the able-bodied, the scammers to get it. We don't
00:38:47.340
want insurance companies and fat cats to get rich on the back of this program. So here's how it works.
00:38:53.800
The fact is, you take some of that money, the state money, they'll go spend it on illegal aliens.
00:38:59.940
They won't use the federal money, which they're prohibited from doing, but they'll use their state
00:39:03.580
money, but they'll still claim all of the provider tax dollars and the FMAP matching dollars and use
00:39:09.560
that to fatten their coffers. So they end-run the restrictions. In the House bill, we said,
00:39:15.500
you're going to lose your federal match if you continue to provide Medicaid to illegal aliens.
00:39:20.880
And so, you know, California, for example, the Senate stripped that out. They hid behind the
00:39:25.520
parliamentarian, but they didn't fight hard enough to keep it in, and they didn't rework the language
00:39:29.780
so that we can guarantee that those federal dollars don't flow to states that give money
00:39:39.140
Chip, are you in the contention going to go over to the White House before the rule vote or after
00:39:45.960
the rule vote? Because I would strongly recommend you go before the rule vote, right, to lay it on
00:39:50.560
the table and give the president really directionally where you guys are trying to go and how actually
00:39:55.520
you're trying to support his agenda that was stripped out in the RINO and donor-controlled
00:40:01.060
and K-Street-controlled, lobbies-controlled Senate, sir.
00:40:04.780
So I'm supposed to be heading up there right now. Once I finish with you, I got to go vote,
00:40:09.800
and then I got to hop in a car and head over to the White House and hopefully meet with
00:40:12.620
the president or his folks or both. We're all there to support what we're trying to do,
00:40:18.240
support the MAGA agenda, support the president. But we've got to make sure that this Congress isn't
00:40:22.120
rolling us or the president's agenda. We can't have more deficits and we can't have the Green
00:40:27.920
News scam continue with those subsidies that are going to kill the American energy. In addition,
00:40:33.240
frankly, our environment as well. I mean, I don't want to see solar farms and wind farms and battery
00:40:37.360
facilities all over the Texas Hill Country and all over Texas. So we got to go stop this stuff and go
00:40:42.920
Knowing the president, knowing the president, I would strongly recommend, Chip, if you would say,
00:40:48.100
Mr. President, you can get the fourth quarter of 2019, you had the economy clicking at 3.4%
00:40:54.460
growth, which would be a home run here and turn everything around. Some of these provisions in
00:40:59.120
here make it impossible, particularly the Green News scam, make it impossible for you to hit your
00:41:03.860
growth target. President Trump's about growth, and I don't think, I think the Senate has hid from him,
00:41:08.680
as we had Dave Walsh yesterday, how what they stripped out is going to hurt the ability to get
00:41:14.700
north of 3%. And the president's looking for 4% or 5% growth, which is all doable if we get this
00:41:20.620
bill right. So Chip Roy, go with God. Good luck with the White House, with the president.
00:41:30.640
I'm going to read, I think I've got it. I want to read President Trump, as you've heard
00:41:35.660
on this show. And why did we do this? We did this for the simple reason is to understand what
00:41:43.260
President Trump is doing. To understand what President Trump is doing, you've got to focus
00:41:48.060
on growth. Let's go to the first one. Nobody wants to talk about growth, which will be the
00:41:53.100
primary reason that the big, beautiful bill will be one of the most successful pieces of legislation
00:41:57.860
ever passed. This growth, all cap, has already begun at levels never seen before. Trillions of dollars
00:42:04.720
are now being invested into the United States more than ever before. Likewise, hundreds of
00:42:08.840
billions of dollars in tariffs are filling up the coffers of the Treasury. The tariff money has
00:42:13.060
already arrived and is setting new records. We are growing our way out of the sleepy Joe Biden
00:42:19.180
mess that he and the Democrats left us, which is happening much faster than anyone thought
00:42:23.800
possible. Our country will make a fortune this year, more than any of our competitors, but only if
00:42:29.120
the big, beautiful bill has passed. As they say, President Trump's been right about everything.
00:42:33.360
And this is the easiest of them all to predict. Republicans, don't let the radical left Democrats
00:42:38.620
push you around. We've got all the cards and we are going to use them. Last year, America was dead,
00:42:45.180
was a dead nation with no hope for the future. And now it's the hottest nation in the world.
00:42:50.660
Make America great again. The entire bet, as we have talked in the show now for two years,
00:42:56.120
in particular when Scott Besson became a regular contributor. This is a supply side tax cut. It's
00:43:01.220
the last time you're going to have a shot to have a supply side solution to our problem, which is
00:43:06.040
about productivity and production and applying capital to manufacturing and high value added jobs.
00:43:13.740
And now I think the administration is focused on how you sell this growth. What I think is important
00:43:19.720
today with the House, as explained to President Trump, as Dave Walsh did last night for 30 minutes
00:43:23.740
brilliantly. There are aspects of the Senate bill that K Street put in for their own benefit,
00:43:30.600
the lobbyists, that may hurt are going to be a speed bump to the growth. That'll all be explained
00:43:35.240
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00:43:42.340
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Now there's greater than a zero probability. The president just doesn't want to hear it. We'll see.
00:44:53.720
I think it's very smart to go up there before the rules vote because the thing is to lay out to the
00:44:59.280
president what the issues are and what they hope to accomplish. Like I said, we didn't pass it in
00:45:08.280
the Senate. J.D. had to come down for that extreme when the vice president comes down to break a tie.
00:45:15.020
We did pass it, but it took the VP's vote. Someone who's president of the Senate, but not
00:45:19.660
technically a senator. He's vice president of the United States. Why was that? You had the folks that
00:45:25.940
wanted more cuts, and then you have obviously always got the Murkowski problem and the Collins
00:45:30.400
problem and all that. So any changes whatsoever, the guys in the Senate would say, well, we can't do
00:45:36.160
this. If you remember the voterama, the voterama stayed open forever. Why? On amendment after
00:45:43.960
amendment. Normally these things go bang, bang, bang. They were gathering votes to see what they could
00:45:48.640
pass at any one point in time. This is why I'm so proud of one of the most egregious things in here,
00:45:55.140
and this is how the swamp works. This is how K Street works. This is how the tech broligarchs,
00:45:59.020
they slipped in one of the most radical ideas ever to really crush not just states' rights, but the
00:46:05.400
whole concept of the federalism on, I would argue, if not the most important topic really of the day,
00:46:12.740
one of the most important topics as we hurtle towards the singularity. Really the whole, you know,
00:46:19.440
more than a millennial change, a change of forever
00:46:29.320
And that's what we stopped the other day. You stopped it.
00:46:36.320
not one senator, including Ted Cruz, who had done the bidding
00:46:43.580
in doing re-election and actually having to take
00:46:53.960
Well, the tech broligarchs are helping to arm China.
00:47:04.880
I just had the situation with Ray on the mail-in voting,
00:48:30.620
and this is where you're going to have problems