Flooding has killed at least 24 people and left more than 20 unaccounted for in the wake of heavy rains that dumped record-setting amounts of rain in some areas of the United States. NBC's Ryan Chandler is on the ground with more.
00:04:55.920Saturday, 5 July, in the year of our Lord, 2025.
00:04:59.200Normally, as you know, when we do 4th of July and then 4th of July weekend, it's always the 5th.
00:05:03.560We carry over our coverage, talking about the foundation of the country and also the Revolutionary War that was upon the signers.
00:05:11.760There's so much pressing business today.
00:05:17.200We're not even – we had a cold open all set for the great signing ceremony and the flyover and the fireworks.
00:05:24.880But there's many big stories that I know this audience needs to focus on, including, I think, a rapidly expanding war in Ukraine and also this biblical-level tragedy down in Kerrville, Texas and around the Guadalupe River.
00:05:49.740Ben, you just informed us there's going to be another press conference because information coming out is very sketchy.
00:05:56.000We found out last night that there were 23, I think, young girls – I think 40 people missing overall, but 23, I think, third graders from the Bubble Inn over at the Mystic Camp that were missing.
00:06:18.700There's going to be another press conference.
00:06:20.180Also, I wanted to include – I thought it was important, our producers did – there's already – so there's a search and rescue, all this equipment's coming in, these brave individuals.
00:06:30.180We had Colonel Chambers, Doc Chambers on last night.
00:06:33.260You've got people running to the sound of the guns to find these children, to rescue them and others, adults, and also then livestock, all of that.
00:06:41.540But there's also already accountability, finger-pointing, whether it was the weather forecast, whether it was closed.
00:07:08.000Okay, we don't have Ben hooked up on –
00:07:10.220Yeah, Steve, yeah, I was actually on my way home, flew into Houston, was driving up almost to Texarkana,
00:07:14.260and got the message from you and turned around, rerouted down here, got a lot of friends in this area, and so we went to the location.
00:07:25.940I just want to get out of the shot here for a second just to show you how – the level of devastation, and we'll talk more about the details.
00:07:33.800But this is right downtown Kerrville, and I'm just going to turn the camera, just show you.
00:07:39.340So where I'm standing right now, I'm about 20 feet above the river, and I would have been underwater.
00:10:06.740Here's the thing is that what has been reported is that the river rose because it is different than Appalachia and then Western North Carolina and Tennessee.
00:10:16.920But the river rose 26 feet in 45 minutes, and then it continued to rise, I think, overall 40 to 42 feet within like an hour to two hours.
00:10:29.780So the rise, and you see there from the thing, it just caught everybody surprised in, I guess, the pre-dawn hours of 3 to 5 o'clock in the morning.
00:10:38.740But the rise of the river so rapidly was really like a wall of water coming down on the Guadalupe, and that's what washed out.
00:10:47.160The question about should these things have been evacuated, all that, what they're saying, hey, it was the middle of the night.
00:10:51.820They're pointing fingers to the National Weather Service and pointing fingers to other weather forecasters, et cetera.
00:10:59.580Do we – at 10 o'clock, are they going to have a bigger – because what everybody's focused on, obviously, is these children from this camp.
00:11:06.660It was reported there were 23 9-year-olds.
00:11:09.720Do you have any update – 9-year-old girls, do you have any update on that?
00:11:14.640Yeah, the most up-to-date numbers I have are what I just said, 20 total is 20 plus.
00:11:20.120So I heard anywhere between 24 and 26.
00:11:29.100We're anticipating getting updated numbers this morning.
00:11:31.780I think the big thing, they don't want to give false information and then have to come back and say otherwise.
00:11:37.360You know, when this first happened, you were messaging me and saying, hey, we're hearing 100 kids are missing.
00:11:41.520And that's the problem with a lot of these disasters is you start getting speculation on top of what's already a tragedy.
00:11:49.640And so I think they're being very careful about making sure whatever numbers they give out are accurate numbers.
00:11:55.840Yeah, as they should, as they absolutely should.
00:11:58.380And look, just going back to this, what happened, you know, it's just the perfect storm.
00:12:03.260It just happened to be – 80 percent of the year, the way that this river is set up, the way that most of the communities are built up around here,
00:12:20.080It kind of came out of nowhere with the storm.
00:12:21.900I mean, we knew a couple days in advance.
00:12:23.940But the way it just sat over here, again, kind of similar to what we saw in North Carolina and Tennessee, that storm just sat on top of them.
00:12:30.780Nobody expected the amount that they had.
00:12:33.000And then the big concern they had was, well, now that we know that the river is rising so rapidly,
00:12:38.760do we try to do a mass evacuation and then potentially have more fatalities, more injuries because people are trying to drive through flooded areas,
00:12:46.720or do we keep people sheltered in place?
00:12:49.100And so it seems like there was some confusion, understandably, during those first few minutes and hours on who to have shelter in place
00:12:58.480and who to have evacuate and then how to reach those people and which places were the most devastated.
00:13:04.500We do know this, the Texas Emergency Management team was already on site.
00:13:09.160They had the Swiftwater rescue boats on site.
00:13:50.940They had problems yesterday, people blocking roads to take pictures and to film.
00:13:55.460And just – if you're not a part of the rescue efforts, please don't come right now until they find every one of these missing children and missing adults.
00:14:39.520Philip Patrick is going to join us at the bottom of the hour from Rio about the Rio Reset and the de-dollarization program of the BRICS nations.
00:14:52.440This July, there is a global summit of BRICS nations in Rio de Janeiro.
00:15:04.820The block of emerging superpowers, including China, Russia, India, and Persia, are meeting with the goal of displacing the United States dollar as the global currency.
00:15:18.840As BRICS nations push forward with their plans, global demand for U.S. dollars will decrease, bringing down the value of the dollar in your savings.
00:15:26.960While this transition won't not happen overnight, but trust me, it's going to start in Rio.
00:15:32.880The Rio Reset in July marks a pivotal moment when BRICS objectives move decisively from a theoretical possibility towards an inevitable reality.
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00:16:39.360So Ben Berquam, if you get to Kerrville and actually get to the press conference, that's going to take place at 11 o'clock.
00:16:44.480The one last night was actually, I thought, pretty informative, given the lack of a lot of information they had.
00:16:50.600But one thing you can tell already, there's some debate between what the forecasts were and what was told to people.
00:16:58.680So we're going to make sure we get to all that.
00:17:00.860Also, Doc Chambers, who was with us last night.
00:17:04.320We're going to try to get Doc Chambers on here in a moment as soon as we can get him up.
00:17:07.340Also, Peter Theo is one of these rescue groups that rode to the sound of the guns immediately.
00:17:14.380Peter Theo is going to also join us, and we're going to get some clarification, particularly on the search and rescue right now, kind of up in the air.
00:17:24.120I think search and rescue is still 20-plus of the children.
00:17:28.840Now, they're saying that may be all the children, not just from the camp, but all the children lost in this tragedy on the Guadalupe River.
00:17:35.640As I said, rain still for the Hill Country, Texas area.
00:17:40.540I just heard Ben Berquam maybe doubling back on Kerrville.
00:17:43.580I think what the question is, is what this river, 26 feet and 45 minutes, is nothing short of biblical.
00:17:53.260You've seen some of the footage of how it came ripping through and not just expanded the width of the river, but the depth and the velocity of water going down was nothing short of biblical.
00:18:04.160Then they said 42 feet, I think, in an hour and an hour and a half.
00:18:08.340And so that's where you see this tragedy unfolding before you.
00:18:11.300Like I said, Peter Theo and Doc Chambers, as soon as you get them up from the field, it's tough getting a signal down there, but we want to make sure we're on top of this because I think it's one of the most important stories in the world.
00:18:25.440Also, Ben Harnwell is going to join us.
00:18:34.080President Trump, in this kind of victory after victory he's had, win after win, President Trump had a call with Putin the other day, of which he was working to whip the vote.
00:18:47.820He had a call with Putin the other day, and it didn't go very well.
00:18:50.520If you read the Axios, I think he had the most accurate.
00:18:52.540At the end, Putin told Trump, he said, hey, look, I want to have a bilateral – I want to have a bilateral negotiation here and essentially butt out.
00:19:02.540President Trump said later it was not a good call.
00:19:04.420President Trump had already stopped – the Pentagon had stopped additional weaponry because we're after the Israel situation with the Iranians.
00:19:13.780The Persians were down THAAD missiles, I think, 25 percent.
00:19:18.140The Patriot missiles that were used in Qatar to shoot down and also the Patriots who gave Israel were down Patriots, and we're taking them out of Korea and the Pacific.
00:19:26.260We told the Ukrainians we can't draw down our stocks anymore now because of the phone call.
00:19:31.960And also the battering of Kiev by – the battering of Kiev by the Russians the other night, I think the most brutal of all the bombardments, drones, missiles, aircraft strikes in Kiev was the other night.
00:19:50.940Today the Atlantic magazine – Ben Harnwell joins us from Rome.
00:19:53.960The Atlantic magazine has Ann Applebaum who is no fan of the war room, no fan of MAGA, no fan of America First, non-intervention, and particularly she detests Donald Trump.
00:20:05.760She's got a piece in the Atlantic band that says Trump is switching sides, and we're going to ask you how she derives that.
00:20:14.220But she does have a buried lead in there that what Poso has been talking about, Putin's actually – and this is supposed to be for an army that was beaten.
00:20:22.440And this is what the media has told us, a summer offensive of 675,000 combat troops for a massive front in Ukraine.
00:20:32.820Ben Harnwell, can you get us up to speed on everything that's happening?
00:20:35.760Because I think this one, as much as President Trump's trying to step in and have already put their guns down, I think this one could be rapidly spinning out of control, sir.
00:20:45.720Okay, Ben, you've got it on mute, I think.
00:21:26.160Are the Russians getting ready for a 675,000-man summer offensive, sir?
00:21:32.820Well, I think she is right on that, Steve.
00:21:34.820But let's just quickly do the chronology, if I may.
00:21:37.960On the night before U.S. Independence Day celebrations, that is to say, as you say, Thursday, President Trump had an hour-long phone call with President Putin.
00:21:49.860And let's go textually to what he said, President Trump said, it's a very tough situation.
00:21:56.200I was very unhappy with my call with President Putin.
00:21:59.120He wants to go all the way, just killing people.
00:22:03.240That, Steve, contrasts with the phone call that he had with President Zelensky, which he actually basically agreed to pretty much all of President Zelensky's requests.
00:22:13.780That is, to increase Ukraine's air capacity, to rend itself with air cover, specifically providing the U.S. Patriot missiles, which he alluded to about 10 days ago, which he said, let's see if we can get them these missiles, which they're going to pay for.
00:22:30.340So this would very much tie into that position.
00:22:32.920And then, Steve, you've got this situation that the 695,000 troops build up on the Ukraine border.
00:22:40.420Steve, my hesitation here, my issue with this here is that President Trump is already being dragged into this, as he has been being dragged into this, really, by both sides in this war, specifically Ukraine, since the inauguration.
00:22:56.420I look at the timings of these dates, and really, from what I can gather, Steve, within moments of his phone call with President Putin finishing, President Putin, this is, as I say, on Thursday, launched the largest drone and ballistic missile attack to date on Kiev and Ukraine.
00:23:17.920And this isn't very good, I think, for President Trump, who's trying to be the dealmaker, he's trying to be the man of peace, but he's finding himself ground in between these two cogs.
00:23:32.520And therefore, as we've been covering on the war for the last few days, he is in this situation which has a certain escalatory, as far as the U.S. is concerned, momentum.
00:23:42.640Ben, talk to me then, do you think, how do we avoid being dragged into this even more?
00:23:53.040I mean, President Trump wanted to stop this in 24 hours.
00:23:55.240He admitted it was more complicated than that.
00:23:58.420He, now it looks like he made a decision that, hey, we're going to tell both sides that we took a shot at this, but we're not going to rearm the Ukrainians.
00:24:07.640We're going to make the Europeans, rearm the Ukrainians.
00:24:13.200The entire 5%, let's be brutally frank about this, going up to 5% is directly tied to NATO and to their fear of Russia.
00:24:22.400We haven't forced the Europeans right now.
00:24:24.920Are we getting, as non-interventionists, and Ukraine being even, I think, a higher priority of getting out of than the Middle East, although we don't want any, you know, no more regime change in the Middle East.
00:24:36.720And President Trump's got a great job of that, in fact, telling the Israelis we're shutting down Gaza.
00:24:41.240Are we getting sucked into this moment by moment and we're getting sucked in by Putin?
00:24:54.000It's not really in Putin's interest to get you guys sucked in.
00:24:59.940But you are getting sucked in into this war.
00:25:02.420And in answer to your question as to how to de-escalate this situation and to de-escalate America's involvement in this situation, really, President Trump, I think, has to fulfill his commitment in the campaign, which he now claims to have been sort of sarcasm.
00:25:17.860But many people who supported him in the election campaign didn't take as sarcasm and supported him for that.
00:25:23.820And that is basically to withdraw the United States within 24 hours.
00:25:28.300If it's not possible, Steve, for President Trump to act as the peace broker here and negotiate a ceasefire, the next best thing he can do is to stop this war continuing.
00:25:40.800And that is by stopping to supply one of the two sides, which is to say Ukraine.
00:25:45.080Now, last week, he did say that he was stopping some weapons and some missiles.
00:25:52.440And he threw the justification to that, to depleting U.S. stockpiles.
00:25:58.300But it wasn't a total closure of U.S. provision.
00:26:02.380Of course, what he was going to continue to provide or not hadn't been defined.
00:26:06.780And it looks as if what he is going to continue to supply is the Patriot missiles.
00:26:11.500This is not a de-escalatory path, Steve.
00:27:11.620They've jammed – they put the president of the United States – he's trying to be a peacemaker and trying to be fair to both sides.
00:27:17.540They put him in a terrible situation, just a terrible situation for the simple fact of after you have a conversation with him and then you do the biggest bombardment.
00:27:31.160We're going to go to Rio for the BRICS conference.
00:27:34.220We've got a press conference coming up from Kerrville.
00:27:37.100We have Peter Thiel and Dr. Chambers – not that Peter Thiel, but the head of operations for one of the rescue groups is going to be with us.
00:27:44.500And we also have Doc Chambers from last night, the former – the retired lieutenant colonel in the Green Berets, all down there on search and rescue and helping folks out.
00:27:56.040We're going to take a short commercial break.
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00:30:32.560Unfortunately, you do have to report that we're at about 24 right now, unconfirmed, 24, 26 deaths reported, expected to rise, still 25 missing, expected to rise.
00:30:42.460But we're narrowing those numbers down as we speak.
00:30:44.940So those are just unconfirmed, but they are close to the right numbers.
00:30:50.140What is, of the 25, what's the status of the Mystic girls camp?
00:30:54.960They were saying last night, 20 to 23.
00:30:57.300Is that still an accurate number that had not been, that search and rescue had not located?
00:32:00.400They did the operational briefing this morning.
00:32:04.560I don't have any additional numbers to what he said.
00:32:07.140Those are in line with what I'm aware of.
00:32:10.160When you say in line, this is – the question last night, I think they said – I think they reported at Mystic at the Bubble Inn or one of the subcamps at Mystic that there were 20 to 23 nine-year-old girls.
00:32:26.500Is that not – was last night not the correct answer?
00:32:29.060That's what the media has been – that had been unaccounted for.
00:32:32.600Are there still 20 to 23 nine-year-olds this morning?
00:32:38.080I don't want to say that definitively because I can't tell you for sure, but, yes, that is my understanding.
00:32:42.740It was an eight- and nine-year-old camp, and a couple of the camp buildings were swept away is what I understand.
00:32:48.580What – is search and rescue still going on, correct?
00:34:09.840There was an offer this morning from a group that has a Cessna 337 with search and rescue package with infrared and everything.
00:34:17.340I don't know if that's coming over, but every asset the state has, I believe, has been pushed here.
00:34:22.640The number at the staging area, the incident command post, there were probably 300 vehicles of people that are here that are state officials rather than just volunteers that were here for search and rescue.
00:34:33.920The magnitude of the response from the state of Texas is amazing.
00:34:38.500This is what makes America great is that people come help each other.
00:34:44.500Doc Chambers, one of the questions last night about people being notified, and one of the officials said that, hey, this area has a history of flooding.
00:34:53.920In your memory, is this the biggest that's happened recently, 20 years, 30 years, the biggest in memory?
00:34:59.500I mean, how big is this compared to other events that this area has had, the Guadalupe River?
00:35:10.340This is the highest one in record now.
00:35:12.640But understand, this is the longest in the corridor of the Guadalupe.
00:35:16.040We're looking at probably 70 miles as the crow flies, hundreds of miles, 120 miles of river as it curves.
00:35:22.340So we're looking at all those low-lying areas, and remember, all these camps that were plussed up for a Fourth of July holiday, that was the evacuation problem set.
00:35:31.080And now, when we're spreading those forces thin, as Pete was mentioning, I'm out here with them, and these guys are running up and down the roads.
00:35:44.160The thermals are the key for the nighttime and daytime.
00:35:46.540The problem set for some of these areas further down is the amount of rain that they're still receiving, deluge of rain over Lake McQueenie.
00:36:51.320Pete Teal, before we let you go, anything to make our audience smart as the day they look at social media or continue to follow the stream here on Real America's Voice?
00:37:00.000Anything to make us smart about how this search and rescue is going, sir?
00:38:27.440Yesterday on Drudge, for the entire day of Fourth of July until late in the day after President Trump signed the big, beautiful bill and had this amazing ceremony, Philip Patrick, the headline, the Drudge lead was dollar has worst opening six months, I think, in history or 20 years.
00:38:46.880You know, the drop of the dollar, you're at the conference, and I'm sure that came from the de-dollarization movement of BRICS.
00:39:08.480We're watching dinners between Chinese delegates and Brazilian real estate developers.
00:39:14.160Deals are happening all over the place.
00:39:16.840The dollar is certainly a topic of conversation, as you rightly point out.
00:39:21.120Worst start for the year since 1973, since we came off the gold standard, dollars lost 10.5% of its purchasing power.
00:39:29.840So, you know, it's looking primed for the BRICS and their plans longer term.
00:39:34.960We had a very interesting interview with an economics professor yesterday, heavily involved in the BRICS leadership, and learned a lot in that conversation about different motivations for different BRICS countries, particularly Brazil.
00:39:51.340So there is a feeling here of excitement and that things are moving forward.
00:40:01.620Explain to the audience, we know during Biden's time, is this flow over from Biden because President Trump puts out the big, beautiful bill, and clearly it has some deficit there.
00:40:11.920They've asked for a $5 trillion lift to the debt ceiling.
00:40:16.740But the global capital markets kind of took this, the 10-year treasuries slightly down, gold's been kind of stable, the stock market's on a run again.
00:40:27.180Explain to the audience, why does the dollar keep losing value relative to some of these other currencies?
00:40:33.880Because this is one of the things the BRICS are saying.
00:40:35.740If we can't do another currency, we've got to figure out some way to de-dollarize, right?
00:40:40.060We've got to get away from the dollar being the center of world currency trading.
00:40:46.440So why is the dollar continuing to deteriorate?
00:40:48.800Why have we had the worst six months since we came off the gold standard under Nixon?
00:40:54.500Look, I think there's a number of reasons, right?
00:40:56.740It started in 2022 with Biden's weaponization of the dollar, and ultimately it showed nations around the world that they have risk.
00:41:04.360But I think what I'm learning here is people misunderstand what the BRICS really are, right?
00:41:10.120The argument that I always hear is, look, they're not politically aligned, right?
00:41:14.020India and China can't agree on anything.
00:41:17.040And there's sort of acceptance of that on the ground.
00:41:20.880I mentioned I was interviewing an economics professor, and he said, look, you know, the idea of viewing them as a political unit is the wrong way to look at it.
00:41:30.840They don't have a chairman, they don't have a CEO, they don't have a board of directors, and importantly, they don't have agendas to vote on.
00:41:37.240What they are instead is a group of countries that have come together to basically help one another out, right, with trade, development projects, and loans.
00:41:46.580There's a feeling here of mutual cooperation because I think on the whole, BRICS nations feel snubbed by the West.
00:41:53.500And now they, with China leading the way, they have a lot of clout.
00:41:57.020Remember, they've got bigger GDP now than the G7.
00:41:59.680So they're not politically aligned, but they are aligned in one area.
00:42:04.760And that is, and this is a direct quote from the professor himself, and he was not anti-Western.
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00:45:30.240So, Philip, the mechanisms that they're talking about, we understand they want to diminish the power of the West, although they each have individual agendas.
00:45:37.940We also understand, although the black hand of the Chinese Communist Party is in back of this, we understand that they are not fans of the U.S. dollar being the prime reserve currency for many reasons.
00:45:49.920So what are the mechanisms that you're hearing?
00:45:54.900You're getting interviews with the top people there.
00:45:58.160What are you learning about the mechanisms of how – because the audience needs to understand this, not just for the geopolitical and geoeconomic direction of the country, but also for their own personal financial use, sir.
00:46:11.160Yeah, it's been very interesting, right?
00:46:15.080You know, for me it was always the plan was de-dollarization, but what's becoming clear is de-dollarization isn't the plan.
00:46:21.320The plan is to diminish the power of the West.
00:46:23.760That's the ultimate endgame, and de-dollarization is a means to an end.
00:46:27.720But you see it clearly when you look at the systems that they've created, because the systems are set up to combat their weaknesses.
00:46:36.440For example, the BRICS don't have political unity, right?
00:46:39.840There's a lack of mutual trust between their governments and their central banks.
00:47:22.220This is a digital clearing and settlement network, which allows nations to trade in currencies, local currencies, but then settle trade imbalances with gold, right?
00:47:33.000The idea being, Russia doesn't want a pile of rupees or rand at the end of the year.
00:47:37.660So they use currencies and they settle in gold bullion.
00:48:15.200Now, I don't see this as being a binary situation.
00:48:18.440I don't think on July 8th the world's going to be turned upside down.
00:48:22.240But what I do think is the combination of fewer dollars in national checking accounts, fewer dollars in national savings accounts combined, they erode the dollar's dominance on a global scale.
00:48:33.620And that slowly opens the door for longer-term dollar destruction and for an alternative to a pair.
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00:49:13.400Philip, I know you're jammed down in Rio.
00:49:15.300You've got meetings for the next couple of days.
00:49:17.740If something pops big, we'll get you up streaming live tomorrow.
00:49:22.520But how do people – I just want people to understand, when they come to Birch Gold, how do they interact with you and your team?
00:49:28.500Because the people that have – over the last three or four years since we've been working with you guys are always ecstatic about the customer service, how you guys take time and explain to them IRAs, 401Ks, all the methodologies.
00:49:39.800How do people build a relationship with Birch Gold?
00:49:45.020Well, get the information first is so important for us.
00:49:47.820It's why they shipped me off to Rio to come and get as much information as I can.
00:49:52.160So birchgold.com forward slash Bannon, that'll get access to all the written information, as you mentioned, end of the dollar empire, guides on how and why to invest under a Trump administration.
00:50:03.860From there, they're going to have access to myself and people like me, knowledgeable on the subject area, can help sort of guide through, answer any questions, and just make this easy.
00:50:14.440I think an informed customer is a customer that makes the right decision.
00:50:23.520Bloomberg, television, The Wall Street Journal, CNBC, nobody has had the conversation that you just had about what you're seeing there with the trade deals, the bilateral trade deals.
00:50:35.040We're giving the audience inside baseball on really the core of global capitalism, right, capital markets particularly, of what's going to happen.