Bannon's War Room - Episode 4613： Kerr County Press Conference Live

00:00:00.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:00:30.000 You can get access to it. That with the war room kind of keep you covered. Go right there. Go there right now. Rickardswarroom.com for Jim Rickards strategic intelligence. And he even throws in a free book on money and AI called Money GPT. Know about currency and artificial intelligence. Scare the bejesus out of you as it should. 0.95

00:00:52.020 But Philip Patrick, just to summarize, the BRICS nations are very sophisticated when it comes to thinking through finance, capital markets. Everybody thinks that this is just, oh, a bunch of dumb third worlders. You could not be more incorrect. 1.00

00:01:06.100 They understand the threat to them that they perceive being on just one system, a dollar-based system, means to them for their own sovereignty and their economics. They're coming to this conclusion.

00:01:17.000 We have to make a counterargument, I think, and I think we need to start it with the Secretary of Treasury. The Federal Reserve is a disaster here about why the system makes sense, right?

00:01:27.820 But they're being very sophisticated about a de-dollarization program that looks at first and bilateral trade deals, and they're the things of free trade, but they're going to do it in their own currencies and take their own currency risks and try to hedge it.

00:01:39.080 And how are they going to try to hedge it, baby? They're going to try to hedge it with good old gold, because that's why the central bank is going to keep buying.

00:01:46.060 That's their hedge. That's how they wean themselves. They're like drug addicts. They're on opioids or fentanyl, whatever it is, and they're going to go to detox, but they're not going to take a crash program, right?

00:01:57.500 They're not going to slit their own throats on this thing. They're going to be very sophisticated and very methodical.

00:02:02.540 Is that essentially a summary of their thinking down at the BRICS conference, sir?

00:02:06.400 That is exactly it. And honestly, it was, even as we've been looking at this for a long time, but it was even a surprise to me, I thought I'd come here and hear anti-US sentiment, right?

00:02:18.000 I thought I'd hear more anger, because anger is something we can deal with, but that wasn't the situation here at all, right?

00:02:24.980 The BRICS aren't shaking their fists and shouting at the White House, demanding fair treatment.

00:02:29.820 What they're doing is slowly assembling their own solutions to the problems that they've faced for decades now, and they've built a ton of momentum.

00:02:38.600 But this is not a knee-jerk response.

00:02:40.900 This is an extremely long-term, well-thought-out strategic plan.

00:02:45.960 It's multifaceted duplication of every aspect of the existing financial system.

00:02:51.780 And the messaging is very smart, right?

00:02:53.940 It's multilateral alternatives to the dollar.

00:02:57.460 This isn't de-dollarization.

00:02:59.380 That's a naughty word for them at the moment.

00:03:01.560 This is about creating alternatives.

00:03:03.880 And like I said, the messaging has been very smart.

00:03:06.860 It's always almost as if they've sort of assembled a puzzle piece by piece by piece, and you really can't see it until it's too late, until you pull back.

00:03:16.680 But this has been a thought-out strategic plan, and concerningly for us, one not born out of anger, but born out of necessity.

00:03:27.480 Yeah, and they understand.

00:03:29.720 That's why they're doing it the way they're doing it, because they understand President Trump's got them on the list.

00:03:33.880 He's got the stink eye on him, as he said with his tweets and at his press availability on the tarmac.

00:03:39.820 Where do people go to get you?

00:03:40.980 Now more than ever, Birch Gold.

00:03:43.200 If the BRICS nations are going to get a hedge, I think you need a hedge too. 1.00

00:03:46.600 That would be gold.

00:03:47.600 And you're going to learn about it with Philip Patrick and the team.

00:03:50.140 Where do they go, Philip?

00:03:51.840 Very simple.

00:03:52.800 Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.

00:03:55.520 That'll get them access to all the free information, end of the dollar empire, how and why to buy gold under a Trump administration.

00:04:03.100 So, again, Birchgold.com forward slash Bannon, or they can text Bannon to 989898.

00:04:10.340 And to reach me, I'm putting out as much as I can, at Philip Patrick on Getter.

00:04:18.800 Thank you, brother.

00:04:19.740 Appreciate you.

00:04:20.540 Philip Patrick, the tarmac team went down there.

00:04:22.160 Very successful.

00:04:23.100 Really great.

00:04:23.780 Great content.

00:04:25.620 John Solomon.

00:04:26.340 John, I got a cold open for you.

00:04:27.520 I'm going to play that after the break, because I want to get into it, brother.

00:04:31.820 The deep state.

00:04:34.460 You've probably done more as an investigative reporter than anybody.

00:04:37.820 So, this week, I mean, we're having bombshell after bombshell.

00:04:40.400 These are not smart.

00:04:41.700 We are.

00:04:42.000 I mean, you've got the Brennan situation with the perjury and the lying and putting on top of Trump and coming after him with the dossier.

00:04:50.640 You've got Caputo.

00:04:52.280 And the Axios guys get the blockbuster.

00:04:54.420 On the CIA, been lying to you.

00:04:56.060 Angleton and those guys looked at presidential, House, Senate, Warren Commission, multiple things, looked you in the eye and lied to you.

00:05:05.900 Brother, it's out of control, and it's up in our face how out of control it is.

00:05:10.900 John Solomon.

00:05:12.620 Yeah, it is.

00:05:13.580 Listen, we were lied to with impunity.

00:05:15.960 I mean, John Brennan looked at Congress and said the Steele dossier had nothing to do with the ICA.

00:05:21.300 And, in fact, he ordered it to be put in the ICA in two locations.

00:05:25.540 Not only in the annex.

00:05:26.440 It's also relied upon in the weakest of all of the conclusions in that intelligence community assessment from the Obama era,

00:05:32.940 which is that Putin was trying to help President Trump win, which is actually very disputed in the intelligence community.

00:05:39.780 People did not believe that when John Brennan put that ICA out.

00:05:44.200 People just look into our eye and they lie to us.

00:05:46.800 They tell us that Hunter Biden laptop wasn't real.

00:05:49.560 It was.

00:05:49.960 They told us Russia collusion was real.

00:05:51.320 It wasn't.

00:05:51.840 The reason they continue to do so is because there is no consequence for these lying, for these efforts to hijack elections, to hijack the intelligence process.

00:06:06.300 And it's why many Americans just want to see the government shrunk to a very small size and maybe some people brought to justice.

00:06:14.260 John Brennan's 2017 testimony is not prosecutable because the five-year statute is.

00:06:18.320 But people are looking today at his 2020 testimony to John Durham and his 2023 testimony to the House Judiciary Committee.

00:06:29.160 Those are within the statute of limitations.

00:06:31.500 It will be interesting to see if Pam Bondi does anything with that. 0.98

00:06:37.620 I'm going to hold you.

00:06:38.760 We're going to go to a short break and come back.

00:06:41.300 Sure.

00:06:41.760 Kerrville, but I've got to finish with John Solomon first.

00:06:44.160 But hang on.

00:06:44.800 It's not only that he put the dossier in, brother.

00:06:49.120 The two most senior people that were kind of in charge of it, who are also Trump haters, Trump haters, argue with him saying, we can't do this.

00:07:00.700 This does not meet any standards whatsoever.

00:07:03.420 You can't do it.

00:07:05.660 We've got a case we're making up anyway.

00:07:07.560 Please don't do this.

00:07:08.620 Is that correct, Solomon?

00:07:09.820 They begged him not to do it, and he still did it?

00:07:12.020 The top two Russia experts.

00:07:14.140 One of them wrote him directly, and Brendan just overruled him and said, I want to include it.

00:07:18.660 It is an extraordinary statement.

00:07:21.180 And remember, the Democrats always say, listen, we listen to the queer people.

00:07:24.120 No, they don't.

00:07:24.980 They don't listen to the queer people. 1.00

00:07:26.180 They listen to their politics, and it's wide.

00:07:32.040 John, hang on one second.

00:07:33.280 We're actually going to blow the brake.

00:07:34.560 Drop the music.

00:07:35.600 We're going to go right to the presser in Kerrville, Texas, right now.

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00:08:02.660 Footage.

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00:09:02.080 I'm going to try and find out about when we're expected to start.

00:09:06.320 Hopefully it will be shortly.

00:09:07.280 Thank you, sir.

00:09:10.120 Thank you all.

00:09:19.800 Okay.

00:09:22.440 That was the preamble.

00:09:23.580 We don't want to miss a second of this.

00:09:24.920 This should be hopefully a thorough update.

00:09:27.060 Senator Cruz, as soon as Ben Berquam is available, I'll go to Ben.

00:09:30.400 I want to thank John Solomon.

00:09:32.420 Solomon's gone, right?

00:09:33.240 He punched.

00:09:36.000 I'm going to get John back in in depth.

00:09:38.240 Oh, is John Solomon still there?

00:09:39.320 Hang on.

00:09:39.860 Let me go back to John Solomon.

00:09:41.200 John Solomon.

00:09:43.300 People are looking at you like they're looking to Fenton.

00:09:46.380 Yeah.

00:09:47.220 What is your recommendation?

00:09:48.860 If you were in the room right now with President Trump, who thinks so highly of you, if you're sitting there with President Trump in the Oval this morning, having the Kennedy assassination bombshell, having the Brennan bombshell, understanding this worms away from just a multi-year sentence on perjury because of the statute of limitations.

00:10:07.980 Given what's happened, given what's happened, even the Epstein thing came out last night, what is your recommendation this morning to the President of the United States to get – we've got to get our arms around this thing, right?

00:10:18.100 And it's not getting better.

00:10:19.740 It's getting – the whole controversy you and I have talked about, had you on the show about the intelligence around the bombing, what's happened in the Middle East, the whole assessment now of what's actually happening in the Ukraine, what the Russian intentions are, where do we stand?

00:10:32.420 And everywhere you look, the national security, the Defense Department, and FBI and CIA are all – their hands are in every problem we've got, right?

00:10:44.320 So there's got to be – we have to start on a path to solutions.

00:10:48.060 You're a steady pair of hands.

00:10:50.180 What is your recommendation to the President?

00:10:52.900 I have been interviewing lots of people on this issue because it's an intractable thing.

00:10:57.700 We've been identifying the problems for more than a decade, but there hasn't been any meaningful solution yet.

00:11:03.020 Devin Nunes and I had a great interview last week, and I think as the head of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board, he has a big idea.

00:11:10.340 Shrink the size of DNI.

00:11:12.120 Shrink the size of these agencies and send the spies and the analysts out of Washington back into the field so that they're focused not on the politics of Washington,

00:11:21.920 but on the art of gathering and on the act of gathering intelligence that's meaningful in the United States.

00:11:26.640 We've got too many people sitting at CIA headquarters, ODNI, and they're worried about politics.

00:11:31.780 They're not collecting human or signal intelligence in a way that's meaningful to us.

00:11:36.340 Instead, they're leaking and putting false documents together.

00:11:40.000 Let's get them out of Washington where the disease exists, get them back in the field. 1.00

00:11:43.840 That's a big idea that the chairman of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board has put out there.

00:11:48.560 I think it's a good one.

00:11:49.320 How about, okay, let's say we do that and we start making significant cuts and get guys out.

00:11:57.340 What about the Director of Operations?

00:12:00.220 What about the black hand of the CIA particularly?

00:12:02.920 Because the CIA, and the only problem I have with downsizing DNI and Tulsi's thing is that it empowers CIA.

00:12:08.700 And to me, that's the heart of the beast.

00:12:10.760 What is your recommendation right now about the CIA?

00:12:12.820 It's the same thing.

00:12:15.480 Get all the CIA.

00:12:16.220 We don't need a CIA headquarters as big as it is. 0.96

00:12:18.300 Get those people out in the damn field and get them working again back on intelligence, not on trying to control policy, trying to control politics, trying to control narrative. 0.97

00:12:28.120 Those aren't their job. 0.99

00:12:29.180 Their job is to go get human and SIGINT.

00:12:31.380 Go back to that process and get them out of the politics, out of the policy, out of the censorship that kept us from being able to get the truth out for so long.

00:12:40.200 And then I think there's another thing.

00:12:41.920 We need to make an example of those who've been leaking to the media false stories.

00:12:46.880 You know, the Plitzer series, John Brennan's testimony isn't the only thing that took a hit this weekend.

00:12:52.020 The Washington Post-Plitzer series clearly had a story that focused on something that we now know to be false and unreliable.

00:12:59.340 Even the top career people at the CIA thought so.

00:13:01.920 We have to break that allegiance between the media and the—

00:13:07.020 John, I'm going to come back to you.

00:13:08.120 Maybe tomorrow we've got a break and go to Kerrville.

00:13:10.680 Sounds good.

00:13:11.120 Go back.

00:13:11.540 Appreciate you.

00:13:12.120 Go to Kerrville.

00:13:12.520 Please note that Highway 39 of an old Ingram loop remains closed to the public.

00:13:17.940 Other than those who live in that area would not be allowed out there. 1.00

00:13:21.580 I will now turn it over to Senator Cruz.

00:13:25.200 I'm sorry, City Manager Dalton Rice.

00:13:30.320 Good morning.

00:13:31.220 Dalton Rice, the City Manager for the City of Kerrville.

00:13:33.980 As everybody knows, we are working in conjunction with the city under a unified command response.

00:13:40.360 And again, a lot of devastation.

00:13:42.740 Our hearts go out to the families and the victims.

00:13:45.640 We want to continue to work together as a community.

00:13:48.420 We love the media support on this to be able to communicate that message, communicate family, communicate togetherness.

00:13:54.560 And we really appreciate all the support in helping us be able to do that.

00:13:59.480 Search and rescue—as the sheriff said, search and rescue operations will continue today from Hunt in North Kerr County all the way to Canyon Lake in Comal County.

00:14:08.640 Now, we're only focused on the Kerr County side, but we wanted to talk about that because a linear—from Hunt all the way to Comal County in a straight-line distance is over 100 kilometers.

00:14:19.840 This is a massive field that is happening.

00:14:22.920 And again, this is unprecedented flood events.

00:14:26.540 So we are still currently in the primary search phase, which is the rapid one.

00:14:32.520 They are running it.

00:14:33.340 You know, we have different segments that are gridded out.

00:14:35.340 Each one of those segments are taking anywhere between an hour to three hours, up to two kilometers for each segment.

00:14:42.760 So what that means is they're running into a lot of technical challenges with terrain, with water, even potentially, you know, with weather, you know, in the rising fields.

00:14:51.600 We've talked about this before.

00:14:53.680 Volunteers stay out of the way because if we start getting weather reports and all, you know, and all the other complications that are out there,

00:15:01.300 we then have to pull off of those search-and-rescue missions to be able to communicate to those volunteers to get off to make sure that they don't become victims themselves.

00:15:11.420 Those operations involve 19 different local and state agencies, in addition to conducting primary and secondary searches.

00:15:17.980 They will be conducting welfare checks on areas in North Kerr County impacted by power outages.

00:15:24.360 And when we say search-and-rescue operations, that is boat, walking on the ground, dogs, drones.

00:15:30.520 Again, keep personal drones out of the air. 1.00

00:15:33.580 Helicopters.

00:15:34.520 We do have other assets that are continuing the search as well.

00:15:37.700 As of present, Cape Hub, which is the Kerrville Public Utility Board, is reporting continued power outages between Hunt and Ingram along the South Fork of the Guadalupe River in Hunt.

00:15:49.000 In the South Fork area, there are approximately 40 downed power lines and significant infrastructure damage.

00:15:55.280 Cape Hub has brought in additional utility personnel to help with restoration, but it's not possible at this time when the power is going to be restored.

00:16:02.340 There are some substations along with those power lines that we are still trying to get access to just from debris buildup or them being completely wiped out.

00:16:11.940 So we do not, again, we do not have an estimated time on when those are going to be fixed.

00:16:15.940 We continue to have substantial number of requests for volunteers, as I said before, and donation opportunities.

00:16:21.600 We are asking those who want to volunteer to contact the Salvation Army in Kerrville by phone at 830-465-4797 or in person at 855 Hayes Street in Kerrville.

00:16:40.300 Monetary donations can be made on the Community Foundation of the Texas Hill Country's website at www.communityfoundation.net.

00:16:49.640 They have a Kerr County Relief Fund set up on that site.

00:16:53.200 And I will now turn it over to the Mayor, Joe Herring.

00:16:58.400 Thank you for being here.

00:17:04.100 I need to tell my community and those families who are waiting, this will be a rough week.

00:17:11.420 Primary search continues, and we remain hopeful every foot, every mile, every bend of the river.

00:17:22.900 Our work continues.

00:17:25.540 You need to know that we have been blessed with help from the community, from the state, and the nation.

00:17:34.800 We have trained experts who are helping in this effort.

00:17:39.580 If you want to volunteer, it is important that you contact Kerrville Salvation Army and register.

00:17:49.300 Dalton gave that number, but I'm going to give it again.

00:17:52.240 830-465-4797.

00:17:58.180 We need focused and coordinated volunteers.

00:18:03.300 Not random people just showing up and doing what they do.

00:18:06.800 We need to work together.

00:18:11.080 As Dalton said, donations have been flowing in from around the world to the Community Foundation.

00:18:18.440 Again, that website is www.communityfoundation.net.

00:18:22.900 Please follow the City of Kerrville's Facebook page for updates.

00:18:29.340 They're accurate.

00:18:30.380 We take a lot of time to make sure we send out information that will be helpful, not only to residents, but those who are visiting.

00:18:39.640 I've said this a hundred times, and I will say it again.

00:18:43.700 We need your prayers.

00:18:46.120 We need your prayers.

00:18:47.080 Thank you.

00:18:48.300 And now, Senator Ted Cruz.

00:18:56.560 Texas is grieving right now.

00:18:59.780 The pain, the shock of what has transpired these last few days has broken the heart of our state.

00:19:07.060 As of yesterday, the confirmed death toll was 82, and those numbers are continuing to go up.

00:19:19.060 The children, the little girls who were lost at Camp Mystic, that's every parent's nightmare.

00:19:26.900 Every mom and dad, last week, we were picking up our daughter from camp here and hunt.

00:19:36.160 Our girls have gone to camp here for a decade. 0.96

00:19:40.680 The Hill Country is an incredible part of Texas, part of the country.

00:19:46.140 The natural beauty here is incredible.

00:19:49.900 The camps that have raised generations of little girls and little boys and instilled character and love and faith are extraordinary institutions.

00:20:01.940 And I'll tell you, the pain in our state, and it's every part of the state.

00:20:06.600 You've got Texans from all over the state who were here celebrating the 4th of July.

00:20:10.060 A week ago, this was a time of great celebration.

00:20:13.840 You're dropping your little girl off at camp, your little boy off at camp.

00:20:18.440 You're celebrating Independence Day.

00:20:23.020 You know that your child is going to be swimming and canoes and horseback riding and doing archery and making lifetime friends.

00:20:31.900 And then suddenly, it turns to tragedy.

00:20:34.140 Over the last several days, I've spoken to multiple parents, scared out of their mind,

00:20:42.420 do you know anything, where is my daughter?

00:20:46.080 There's still 10 girls and one counselor from Camp Mystic that are unaccounted for.

00:20:53.180 And the pain and agony of not knowing your child's whereabouts,

00:20:57.680 it's the worst thing imaginable.

00:21:01.320 But I want to say, in the face of all of this, it is simultaneously inspiring.

00:21:12.060 Every time there's a tragedy, every time there's a natural disaster in Texas, Texans come together.

00:21:17.380 Texas is a big state.

00:21:18.480 We've got 31 million people, and we have hurricanes, we have tornadoes, we have wildfires.

00:21:25.300 Tragedies hit this state, natural disasters hit this state.

00:21:28.060 And without fail, 100 out of 100 times when that happens,

00:21:32.320 we see Texans coming together, helping each other, engaging in acts of heroism.

00:21:39.320 There have been over 850 high water rescues since this flooding began.

00:21:47.280 850.

00:21:47.960 You look at extraordinary stories, stories of Eagle Scouts pulling campers out of harm's way.

00:21:54.740 I was just hearing a story of one counselor whose head was right at the water,

00:21:59.000 holding up two mattresses with campers on those mattresses.

00:22:04.320 That kind of courage, that kind of selflessness.

00:22:07.260 And then there are the first responders.

00:22:13.380 The local first responders, I want to thank every one of the first responders at the local level,

00:22:18.240 at the city level, at the county level, at the state level, at the federal level.

00:22:22.380 In the first few hours of this flood, I was on the phone with Governor Abbott.

00:22:28.220 I was on the phone with Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick.

00:22:31.600 I was on the phone with Nim Kidd, the head of the Texas Department of Emergency Management.

00:22:36.420 And then I called President Trump.

00:22:39.280 I called President Trump.

00:22:40.700 He was having dinner at the time.

00:22:41.940 It was still early in what was transpiring.

00:22:43.880 And I wanted him to know.

00:22:46.020 I said, Mr. President, everything we're hearing right now, this appears to be bad, really bad.

00:22:50.700 There may be a very significant loss of life unfolding right now in Texas.

00:22:55.740 And I will tell you, the President said, Ted, anything Texas needs, the answer is yes.

00:23:01.360 Whatever assets you need, whatever resources you need, yes, let us know, and we will provide everything.

00:23:07.900 Within hours, we had helicopters, over a dozen helicopters in the air.

00:23:11.620 There, National Guard, DPS, game wardens, Coast Guard, doing search and rescue, reaching down.

00:23:21.060 We've all seen the videos of little girls being pulled up, hoisted out of harm's way.

00:23:26.240 Incredible courage and heroism.

00:23:31.660 Search and rescue is the first stage.

00:23:35.560 But the process of coming together and rebuilding is going to take longer.

00:23:41.620 And I will say to all the grieving families, to all of those who've gotten the worst news imaginable, that your little girl, she's gone.

00:23:52.900 I will say for many of us, those are friends and neighbors who've lost children.

00:23:58.560 Got multiple kids who go to school with my girls.

00:24:01.440 The mayor asked for prayers.

00:24:11.320 And I want to say thank you to the millions of Texans, to the millions of Americans, to the millions of people all over the world right now who are praying.

00:24:19.620 Praying for Texas and praying for those parents.

00:24:21.960 Going through this grief, it is going to take love, it is going to take friends and family embracing and hugging and holding them while they weep.

00:24:36.100 And it's going to take the church.

00:24:37.560 With every disaster, one of the things we see here in Texas is the church steps up and the church helps and the church feeds and clothes and comforts.

00:24:50.000 This morning I met with a group of chaplains who've been going through the incredibly difficult process of talking to mom and dad after mom and dad who just lost the most precious person they ever knew.

00:25:05.560 And those chaplains are just trying to love them and show God's love.

00:25:11.660 So I want to say we will come through this.

00:25:15.420 To those in the midst of grief right now, that might seem hard to fathom.

00:25:20.680 But Texas will come through this.

00:25:23.840 And I just want to say thank you.

00:25:25.340 I want to say thank you to these gentlemen here who are working.

00:25:29.000 They are not sleeping.

00:25:30.060 They are working every day.

00:25:31.320 Thank you to the families.

00:25:32.440 Thank you to the Salvation Army.

00:25:33.700 Thank you to everyone who is just reaching out and saying, how can I help?

00:25:41.220 We will come through this and we'll come through this together.

00:25:45.040 Thank you.

00:25:48.320 And now we'll take questions.

00:25:49.880 Senator, you talked about having no kids here and taking your own kids to camp.

00:25:55.500 Was it ever communicated to you that there was a need, that it was a priority to have a warning system so people had a chance to escape something like that?

00:26:04.300 Well, listen, I think anytime you're dealing with major rivers, there's a risk of flooding.

00:26:09.520 And there's always been a risk of flooding, particularly on the Guadalupe River.

00:26:12.980 I will say in the wake of every tragedy, there are things that are predictable.

00:26:20.800 One of the things that's predictable is that you see some people engaging in, I think, partisan games and trying to blame their political opponents for a natural disaster.

00:26:32.320 And you see that with a hurricane, with a tornado, with a wildfire, with this flooding, where people immediately say, well, the hurricane is Donald Trump's fault. 0.54

00:26:43.380 You know, look, that – I think most normal Americans know that's ridiculous.

00:26:47.480 And I think this is not a time for partisan finger-pointing and attacks.

00:26:52.960 Now, after we come through search and rescue, after we come through the process of rebuilding, there will naturally be a period of retrospection where you look back and say, okay, what exactly transpired?

00:27:07.500 What was the timeline and what could have been done differently to prevent this loss of life?

00:27:12.840 And that's a natural process.

00:27:14.300 I think it should not happen in a bitter and partisan sense, but it should happen in a reasonable sense of saying, what lessons can we learn?

00:27:23.240 And I will give an example, you know, Houston's my hometown.

00:27:27.620 If you live on the Gulf Coast, we get hurricanes.

00:27:30.140 That's part of living on the Gulf Coast as hurricanes hit.

00:27:33.160 And I do think Texas as a whole has learned over time how to deal more effectively with hurricanes.

00:27:39.420 And so you look here, we know the National Weather Service put out an emergency warning just after 1 a.m.

00:27:46.320 and a second emergency warning just after 4 a.m.

00:27:49.120 Now, obviously, most people at 1 a.m. and 4 a.m. are asleep.

00:27:54.640 And so I think we will have a reasonable conversation about, A, are there any ways to have earlier detection?

00:28:01.320 And some of that, the limits of a flash flood, they're very difficult because they can arise so quickly.

00:28:08.300 But everyone would agree in hindsight, if we could go back and do it again, we would evacuate particularly those in the most vulnerable areas,

00:28:16.820 the young children in the cabins closest to the water, we would remove them and get them to higher ground if we could go back and do it again.

00:28:24.380 Obviously, everyone would.

00:28:25.900 The people in RVs by the river's edge, we know in disasters like this, RVs and mobile homes are particularly susceptible,

00:28:35.060 whether a flood or a hurricane or a tornado, they're particularly susceptible to that.

00:28:39.280 And so my hope is, in time, we will learn some lessons to implement to next time, and there will be another flood, there will be another disaster.

00:28:51.440 But next time there's a flood, I hope we have in place processes to remove especially the most vulnerable from harm's way.

00:28:59.960 But I think that's going to be a process that will take a careful examination of what happened and how can we implement processes better in the future to prevent this same loss of life.

00:29:11.800 Senator, there were claims that the National Weather Service sent that first flash flood warning that should have alerted phones at 1.14 in the morning.

00:29:19.340 But we have a federal public database maintained by PBS, PBS Warrant, that says the first emergency alert wirelessly here in this area to Kerr County was not until after 9 a.m.

00:29:30.440 That was more than four hours after the severe flooding had come to this area.

00:29:34.220 Did you know that?

00:29:35.200 Have you seen that?

00:29:35.980 And what's your response, knowing the state and cuts to NWS in recent months by this administration?

00:29:41.100 So I don't know the source for what you're saying.

00:29:44.500 All of the public reporting I've seen is that there were two alerts that went out, one just after 1 a.m., one after 4 a.m.

00:29:51.360 You know, I can tell you I talked about the partisan finger pointing.

00:29:56.600 I think there have been some eager to point at the National Weather Service and say cuts there led to a lack of warning.

00:30:04.780 I think that's contradicted by the facts.

00:30:07.020 And if you look at the facts in particular, number one, that these warnings went out hours before the flood became a true emergency level.

00:30:17.300 But number two, the National Weather Service here, New Brunsfield, is where they were headquartered.

00:30:24.900 They had additional manpower.

00:30:26.280 In fact, they had three additional people working that night anticipating that it was going to be a very dangerous weather situation.

00:30:32.780 I also think it's worth noting that the National Weather Service Union, which has been very critical of the doge cuts,

00:30:39.480 has publicly said that they don't believe that the reduction in staffing had any impact whatsoever on their ability to warn of this event.

00:30:48.040 And so, look, I think it is reasonable over time to engage in a retrospective and say at every level what could have been done better.

00:30:55.620 Because all of us would want to prevent this horrific loss of life.

00:31:02.520 But I think just immediately trying to use it for either side to attack their political opponents,

00:31:08.920 I think that's cynical and not the right approach, particularly at a time when we're dealing with a crisis and we're dealing with grief.

00:31:16.180 But does this make you question whether there should be cuts at the National Weather Service and FEMA?

00:31:20.100 I know you've been supportive of FEMA.

00:31:21.580 Look, I am very supportive of FEMA.

00:31:23.660 I'm very supportive of the National Weather Service.

00:31:24.960 They both perform essential roles.

00:31:28.380 And I think it is critical in every federal agency, particularly when you're dealing with public safety,

00:31:32.960 that we make sure that critical roles are maintained.

00:31:36.000 That's a longer and broader discussion.

00:31:38.100 But as I said, everything from the public evidence indicates that that was not a contributing factor to what occurred here.

00:31:44.600 I want to get Dalton in just to talk about that and the National Weather Service alerts.

00:31:48.700 Because there were escalating forecasts throughout the day from the National Weather Service.

00:31:53.500 What did the emergency managers of the county and other local officials do with that information, starting at 1.15 and onward, where you have the Dyer River forecast at 6.30?

00:32:05.460 Were emergency managers doing anything to put any processes in place to warn people on the river?

00:32:09.700 So, overall, you know, we were preparing for the July 4th, you know, weekend.

00:32:14.660 So, we had National EMR on site.

00:32:16.900 We were, you know, basically stood up kind of an incident command post, if you will, to prepare for that event.

00:32:21.400 So, most everybody was kind of up looking at weather.

00:32:24.200 We looked at the weather before.

00:32:25.480 When you looked at the National Weather Service, excuse me, flood map, it spanned all the way from the west side of Texas with Kerr County kind of being in that upper northeast corner of it.

00:32:36.860 And so, everybody, including the National Weather Service, was looking at where is the rain going to hit?

00:32:41.380 We know it's somewhere in here.

00:32:42.520 But with rain, especially when you're dealing with terrain, you've got to figure out, sometimes you don't know until it falls.

00:32:50.300 So, once it starts falling, then you've got to figure out, okay, how's the watershed going to do this?

00:32:54.220 How's the science going to work?

00:32:55.540 And when you had that North and South Fork that we had talked about before, it all converged into one.

00:33:00.680 We do know that a lot of the camps were looking at this just as much as, you know, as everybody was.

00:33:06.000 Because, you know, with the rainfall percentages, even the National Weather Service had looked at, and don't quote me on the numbers, but it was anywhere between, you know, one to seven, you know, seven inches.

00:33:15.300 We got significantly over that.

00:33:17.320 And, again, when it goes into very congregated areas and how that watershed shifts into the rivers, that impacts things.

00:33:25.320 And so, the camps, obviously, we've heard stories where campers were getting up.

00:33:29.620 They were up at, you know, 3.30 in the morning.

00:33:31.300 They were trying to move to higher ground.

00:33:32.740 And that's the – and the other interesting part of the terrain, and we've talked to UGRA folks as well, this is the headwaters of the Guadalupe.

00:33:43.140 This is the beginning.

00:33:44.740 This is where everything forms, you know, when it comes into the North and South Fork.

00:33:48.940 And so, as those things develop, it develops very rapidly, very quickly.

00:33:54.020 And this rose very quickly in a very short amount of time.

00:33:57.220 And so, those campers that were able to do that, it worked.

00:34:00.180 You know, there's been the other question, and I'll just give this one out, evacuations.

00:34:04.440 Well, why don't we evacuate?

00:34:05.720 Well, evacuation is a delicate balance because if you evacuate too late, you then risk putting buses, you know, or cars or vehicles or campers on roads into low-water areas trying to get them out, which then can make it even more challenging because these flash floods happen very quickly.

00:34:22.340 And so, we saw that in 1987, but was there any discussion about evacuations earlier when it wasn't too late?

00:34:28.300 Was there any discussion about that or about the officials?

00:34:31.160 Sorry, repeat your question.

00:34:32.940 Was there any discussion to evacuate or activate any emergency plans before it wasn't too late where it would be very dangerous?

00:34:38.540 Well, so, again, just like disasters in Texas everywhere, you know, it's very tough to make those calls because what we also don't want to do is cry wolf.

00:34:45.800 You know, we don't want to make sure that we activate it at the right time.

00:34:50.720 It is very difficult, very challenging, especially with this – we're looking at 100 kilometers, right?

00:34:56.260 That's a big straight-line distance.

00:34:58.320 That's not even along the river.

00:34:59.400 These areas take a lot of time to get out to.

00:35:02.960 So, even when first responders were on the ground at 3.30 in the morning and we had reports, we had first responders that were getting swept away actually responding to the first areas of rainfall.

00:35:12.800 That's how quick it happened.

00:35:14.000 First responders who have experience, who are swift water qualified, were driving to the – as soon as the rain started falling, were driving to these areas, and one of them got swept off the road.

00:35:24.040 So, one last question, everybody.

00:35:27.460 One last question.

00:35:28.060 Is there any communication between 1 and 4 a.m. from local law enforcement to the camp saying, I know you can't get buses in in an hour?

00:35:35.600 Is there anyone coming to the camp between 1 and 4 a.m.?

00:35:38.580 You need to get the girls to higher ground at the very least because they have to walk up there in the rain. 1.00

00:35:42.940 It's many of them actually ended up doing.

00:35:44.720 Is there any communication from local law enforcement to anyone at that camp between 1 and 4 a.m.?

00:35:49.940 That I don't know off the top of my head.

00:35:51.480 What I do know, though, is, you know, there's 55,000 people in Kirk County.

00:35:55.800 Kirk County is a massive, massive area.

00:35:58.060 From here to those camps is 45 minutes on a good day.

00:36:01.420 And so, you know, obviously one of the big challenges that we have, even when you have cell service, a lot of those areas don't even have cell service.

00:36:09.060 Radio communications towers, you know, radio towers within the Hill Country becomes very challenging.

00:36:13.400 So there's a lot of areas, especially when weather comes in, where cellular towers are down or you already have bad service.

00:36:20.940 So there's a lot of factors that play and a lot of variables in there on communication that, again, I think as we work through this process, we know everybody has a lot of questions regarding what are the next steps and what's next.

00:36:33.700 And I think all of these things, these are all great questions.

00:36:35.980 And as we continue search and rescue and as we continue to move to the next step, we definitely want to dive in and look at all those things from cell service tower to, you know, to radio communications, you know, or emergency alerting.

00:36:47.020 Any of those things, I think we all really need to take a look at and review, and we're looking forward to doing that once we can get the search and rescue and stuff completed.

00:36:54.380 I think in regards to the total number of, before I say anything else, I just want to say thank you to you, to all the first responders, to everyone involved.

00:37:02.400 We've been praying.

00:37:03.120 Thank you.

00:37:03.460 The media's been praying.

00:37:04.180 The media's been praying.

00:37:05.380 Thank you guys for doing that.

00:37:06.740 I've got two questions.

00:37:07.900 One, are you trying to get an accurate count on the number of missing?

00:37:12.200 I know you can't, I know we don't know the, we don't know what we don't know, but do we know a rough idea on total estimates that we're still missing overall throughout the county?

00:37:21.900 And then one other follow-up, this may be for Senator Cruz, a lot of speculations being made about this being somehow man-involved with the weather modification with some grain maker technology working with farmland.

00:37:36.180 Do you think any of that, is there going to be any investigations into that, or can you communicate anything on that?

00:37:40.920 Let me answer your first question.

00:37:42.400 I'm definitely turning that second one over to him.

00:37:44.440 So, on the first question, with missing persons, so obviously we have the knowns, the Camp Mystic kids, which is the numbers coming down as the sheriff has stated, and then we have the unknowns.

00:37:54.380 We don't know what we don't know.

00:37:55.800 We are taking, we actually have a five hotline line.

00:37:59.920 It fluctuates between three and five, but we're working on it.

00:38:02.480 We get calls 24 hours, seven days a week.

00:38:04.980 We haven't hit the weeks yet, but we're still taking in calls.

00:38:07.900 We are collecting all that information.

00:38:09.300 So, we don't have a solid number that we're willing to talk about right now.

00:38:12.920 We do know that it is a lot, because we also are getting a lot of fake calls.

00:38:18.160 You know, you're looking, this is a worldwide discussion, and we're dealing with scammers.

00:38:23.280 Victims' families are being reached out to, saying that they have their kids, pay me money.

00:38:28.400 It's heartbreaking.

00:38:29.440 It's absolutely heartbreaking.

00:38:31.100 We're dealing with, you know, with mental health issues where people are calling and saying they have visions.

00:38:35.000 You know, all of these things we're dealing with on a day-to-day basis, and we're having to vet this information, and it becomes very taxing on our people.

00:38:43.400 Again, this is an extremely heartbreaking, this is, if not the worst, you know, one of the worst, you know, disasters in this region in a very, very long time, even beyond 1987.

00:38:52.620 And so, but we're...

00:38:55.540 Would it best ask you to give it, like, dozens or hundreds, or just to give people an idea?

00:39:00.380 A lot.

00:39:01.580 So...

00:39:01.960 A lot.

00:39:02.040 A lot.

00:39:03.900 So, follow.

00:39:04.300 Yeah, let me...

00:39:06.120 Yeah, there...

00:39:06.940 Not to get into the weeds on, you know, people are asking lots of questions, and where should we start the investigation?

00:39:12.020 To the best of my knowledge, there is zero evidence of anything related to anything like weather modification.

00:39:18.280 And, look, the Internet can be a strange place.

00:39:21.400 People can come up with all sorts of crazy theories.

00:39:24.400 What I know is a reality is that a whole lot of Texans are grieving right now.

00:39:30.380 I will tell you, I was visiting with one parent who was talking about online, being harassed online because their information was public that they had a little girl who was missing at Mystic.

00:39:43.760 And, look, there are a lot of people who are messed up, and my call for everyone, there's a time to have political fights.

00:39:54.080 There's a time to disagree.

00:39:55.620 This is not that time.

00:39:57.380 This is a time just to reach out, support each other.

00:40:02.520 Go volunteer at the Salvation Army.

00:40:05.340 Give them money.

00:40:06.220 Go volunteer at your church.

00:40:07.780 Go, you know what I did when this happened?

00:40:11.080 Just go hug your kids because I've got to tell you, I hugged my girls with tears in my eyes because every one of us who's a parent, they're but for the grace of God go I.

00:40:21.700 And nothing will fill the void in these moms and dads' hearts, but they'll make it through it.

00:40:30.060 And every one of us, we have an obligation to come through and help them make it through it.

00:40:37.560 And, look, Texas will come through.

00:40:39.060 And let me say, Kirk County, the Hill Country is incredible.

00:40:42.160 It is beautiful.

00:40:43.600 And these summer camps, Camp Mystic is an incredible Texas institution.

00:40:47.500 For a century, it has made a profound difference helping young girls become strong women in Texas and across the country.

00:40:58.340 And so, for me at least, I'm praying for these camps.

00:41:01.280 I'm praying for all the campers, everyone implicated, everyone impacted.

00:41:05.280 And I hope we come together and stand as one doing that.

00:41:08.840 Thank you.

00:41:09.440 Thank you, everybody.

00:41:10.020 Thank you, everybody.

00:41:17.500 Okay, welcome back.

00:41:21.320 I'm going to go to Burkwam. 1.00

00:41:22.440 Let me be blunt about Senator Cruz.

00:41:24.960 We're going to contact his office and ask him about all the evidence he's seen that shows there's nothing.

00:41:30.040 And we're not saying that this is man-made.

00:41:34.580 But in this area of responsibility and what took place, you have to look at everything.

00:41:43.300 And we're going to look at everything.

00:41:44.380 So, right now, I've got my team reaching out to his office.

00:41:47.500 We just want to see what evidence – he says we've seen no evidence.

00:41:51.300 What evidence is he talking about, right?

00:41:54.820 It's because it hasn't been investigated yet.

00:41:58.360 Is this because Ted Cruz – remember, Ted Cruz was the shill for – yes, I'm going to go here today on this.

00:42:05.540 Ted Cruz was the shill for big tech on the AI bill.

00:42:10.360 Ted Cruz's solution on the artificial intelligence bill was to – if you're a state and put in laws or restrictions or regulations against artificial intelligence, you would lose access to rural broadband.

00:42:26.820 He held – he was holding the mega movement hostage.

00:42:33.640 And he lied that night, says, oh, they got three votes, a long night.

00:42:36.440 He got blown out 99 to 1.

00:42:37.920 He's shilling right there for big tech.

00:42:40.260 And you notice the misdirection plan information.

00:42:42.240 Now is the time to go hug your kids.

00:42:43.660 Senator Cruz, we're adults, okay?

00:42:47.020 There's been a horrible tragedy.

00:42:50.140 These innocent young girls, eight and nine years old, are dead.

00:42:55.560 And, yes, their families are grieving, and their families need space to grieve.

00:42:58.800 And you saw right there what the county – the operations supervisor said.

00:43:03.980 People are – the reason they don't want to go up and put their names online, they're being contacted by people – and think about this and the depravity of this –

00:43:11.660 that are telling them, we have your children, we have your child, but you've got to send us X amount of money to get her back.

00:43:19.760 Think about that for a second.

00:43:21.120 Think about that for a second.

00:43:23.260 Also, that they've had these prophets or spiritual people are getting them and saying they had a vision.

00:43:28.320 And I see your – and I see your young child.

00:43:30.960 Think about what that would do to you as a parent if it happens.

00:43:33.960 So some horrible things are going on.

00:43:35.080 But, no, Senator Cruz, you've got to start looking into what happened.

00:43:39.660 Because right now they're trying to smear Trump as the issue.

00:43:43.760 That's the first eight questions were all about the National Weather Service and the cuts.

00:43:47.960 They're trying to – they're trying to smear Trump.

00:43:52.000 So we have to fight back.

00:43:53.800 We have to fight back to stop the political narrative they're trying to do, Senator Cruz.

00:43:57.500 And maybe if you understood that, you would have had a much deeper race into and been much more competitive when you ran for president, sir.

00:44:05.940 And also wouldn't have had to have the MAGA movement drag you across the finish line last time you ran for Senate. 0.90

00:44:12.020 Trump won by 14 points.

00:44:13.520 You won by nine.

00:44:14.480 That delta is folks that will vote for President Trump and refuse to vote for you.

00:44:19.420 But just right there, that misdirection play, also the tone of it from the top.

00:44:26.380 But, hey, I'll save that for another day.

00:44:29.100 Bottom line is Ben Burkwam joins us.

00:44:31.300 Ben, great questions.

00:44:32.720 I'm still – so keep it simple for me.

00:44:35.860 Where are we on the math here?

00:44:37.440 And it sounds like – correct me if I'm wrong.

00:44:40.960 He said there are a lot.

00:44:42.140 I guess there's still a lot.

00:44:44.440 Obviously, the scale of this is so big.

00:44:46.680 It's hundreds of miles, square miles.

00:44:48.820 It's so enormous.

00:44:49.860 Even as the crow flies, I think they've got 100 miles of river.

00:44:52.860 And as it goes back and forth, it's, I don't know, 150 or 200 miles of river, right?

00:44:57.580 So it's massive.

00:44:58.500 They're actually asking for volunteers that come in groups, not onesies, twosies.

00:45:02.940 If you're kind-hearted and want to do something, don't run down there and volunteer because it just organizes too much.

00:45:08.200 But if you have one of these groups, like we've had Doc Chambers and some of these other groups on the show the last couple of days, those are the types of groups they want volunteering.

00:45:17.300 So talk to me about the response to your – first off, the count itself, if you can break it down.

00:45:23.440 Then the answer to your question, maybe the answer to both your questions because they were the two best questions that were asked once again at the entire press conference.

00:45:31.360 Thank you, Steve.

00:46:01.360 on what was missing then.

00:46:03.060 But I think it's telling when I gave an option.

00:46:06.520 Are we talking dozens or hundreds?

00:46:08.280 And his answer is a lot.

00:46:10.700 I think if it were closer to the dozens, you would say, you know, dozens.

00:46:15.440 If it's more than that, I think you can – that's all speculation, but you can read between the lines on that.

00:46:22.060 No, no, but Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, Ben, hang on, hang on, Ben, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:46:27.980 Go back to that.

00:46:28.780 That was key.

00:46:29.360 The way you asked the question, dozens or hundreds was perfect.

00:46:34.260 You framed it perfectly.

00:46:35.820 And he had the option of saying dozens, and he didn't choose that.

00:46:39.600 He said a lot.

00:46:40.800 That means this tragedy, we're just at the beginning stages of understanding the scale of this tragedy, correct?

00:46:45.360 That's correct, yeah.

00:46:49.400 Yeah, and if you're, you know, just based on sociology, psychology, when you answer that way, you're leaning towards the higher number.

00:46:59.660 So, again, I don't want to speculate any further than that.

00:47:03.460 But, yes, that's – it's going to be bad.

00:47:06.060 It's going to be really bad.

00:47:06.760 So, we're at 82 now.

00:47:08.000 Who knows where that number goes to.

00:47:10.400 But, again, this is one of those things.

00:47:12.660 Our message is continually to pray.

00:47:15.020 I think it's important.

00:47:15.920 This is – you know, I can't – as a dad, you're a dad.

00:47:18.880 I've got three daughters.

00:47:20.660 I cannot imagine what these guys are going through.

00:47:22.960 And so that's job one, and I agree with them 100 percent.

00:47:26.480 After we get through this, and we will eventually get through this, then it becomes –

00:47:30.860 But hang on.

00:47:31.420 But hang on.

00:47:32.000 Hang on.

00:47:32.640 Hang on.

00:47:33.140 Hang on.

00:47:33.720 Hang on.

00:47:34.120 Don't leave this topic.

00:47:35.180 Don't leave it.

00:47:36.940 He then – earlier they coupled with – the first time I think I've heard it, and I think I've been on all these,

00:47:42.380 they actually had a request for volunteer groups to help, it sounds like, on recovery, maybe at the end of rescue, but on recovery.

00:47:51.720 And they said, you can't come as individuals.

00:47:53.660 We need you as groups.

00:47:55.000 Is that tied to potentially the not dozens, not hundreds, but a lot, that they really need a much bigger group of individuals

00:48:05.860 and some of these qualified teams like the Doc Chambers of the world and people like that to actually help them on the recovery part of this?

00:48:12.380 Well, it's twofold.

00:48:15.820 Part of it is they just don't want every Joe Schmo off the street coming in and saying, hey, I'm here to help, and then trying to connect them. 0.55

00:48:22.400 Everybody that's going out is already in a team.

00:48:24.860 So if you're having to figure out John Smith who comes in and Jill Smith who comes in and figure out what their qualifications are,

00:48:30.860 what their background is, and then trying to tie them to a team and find out what those assets that that team needs,

00:48:36.060 do they fit in that team, very, very difficult logistically.

00:48:39.400 If you come in as a team, they know, okay, this is our team lead, this is our comms, this is our swift water rescue,

00:48:45.120 this is, you know, we have our team built for this task.

00:48:48.560 It's a lot easier to say this is our need over here and deploy them immediately.

00:48:52.900 So there's part of that, but there's no question about it.

00:48:56.200 I mean, I'm watching the teams now go back as the water levels are dropping.

00:48:59.600 They're going back and rechecking, and they're finding bodies up in trees.

00:49:02.600 They're finding bodies in cars that were submerged.

00:49:04.780 It's, and it's a massive geographic area.

00:49:08.660 So, yes, I think it's twofold.

00:49:11.560 It's one, to make sure we have competent, qualified people that we deploy, but it's also, it's a major, major undertaking.

00:49:18.460 And we're, you know, we're here in Kerrville.

00:49:20.180 This, this is every river, every tributary you go for 50 miles in all directions, it had a similar situation.

00:49:27.920 And we just had flooding last night again, so you compound the difficulty of the train, the difficulty of the rain and the environment on top of all of the other crap that they're having to deal with. 1.00

00:49:40.780 And like you said, just these idiots calling in. 0.98

00:49:43.220 They want to make sure anybody they send out there is qualified, but it sounds like they, you know, they're still, well, let me just give you an anecdotal evidence. 0.99

00:49:52.000 I was at one location yesterday where there was a car, they thought there might have been a body in it, took 20 minutes to get a fire team over there, a rescue team to actually start digging through the car.

00:50:03.080 So, there, there are limited in some sense, you know, you can't have everyone everywhere.

00:50:07.280 So, they do need more, but they, they want to make sure that anyone that comes is qualified.

00:50:11.300 About what he said, as an aside, about the reason the parents, you know, the names can't go up, is people are calling them and saying, we have your child, we found your child, but we need money.

00:50:25.000 Or people are saying, I've had a spiritual vision, I'm a prophet or a prophetess or whatever, and I've seen your child.

00:50:31.320 How prevalent is that?

00:50:32.340 You're there with the inside details.

00:50:33.600 How prevalent is that on these, on these parents that are dealing with the worst grief any human being could have, sir?

00:50:41.300 I don't have numbers on, you know, how often that's happening, but it just points to the depravity of this generation of our society of the good versus evil.

00:50:51.580 Those are demons.

00:50:52.380 Anyone who does that is a demon from, from hell.

00:50:54.960 But I was, I did meet with some of the, the reunification folks that are running the reunification operation downtown.

00:51:01.240 In fact, they were the ones that were running the fireworks display and show they do it every year.

00:51:06.100 And they were telling me that what they're having to comb through on leads that are coming in.

00:51:10.200 And these guys are the ones that are getting the calls for the missing people.

00:51:13.000 They couldn't, for obvious reasons, go into detail on that.

00:51:16.040 All of that's coming through one voice through these press conferences. 0.99

00:51:19.500 But they said there is a lot of garbage that's coming in. 0.98

00:51:22.720 And some of it's well-intentioned. 0.93

00:51:24.360 You know, you have people that see something, that want to help.

00:51:27.080 They want to be, you know, they knew that their cousin was out here, but they haven't talked to anybody since.

00:51:33.060 But they think their cousin may still be missing.

00:51:35.000 They haven't done the research to figure out.

00:51:36.860 And so they're just getting all kinds of calls.

00:51:39.280 In regards to the demons that are calling these people, saying they got their kids, they found their kids.

00:51:44.000 I don't have numbers on that. 0.99

00:51:45.280 All I can say is they deserve a place in hell. 0.95

00:51:51.700 Talk about Ted Cruz's answer to your second question, sir. 0.96

00:51:55.120 Yeah, it was definitely, you know, pitch that one and change the subject.

00:52:06.180 I do, I think to your point, it's a legitimate question.

00:52:09.420 I mean, we know this.

00:52:10.400 This isn't, you know, when they started talking about this, you and I are kind of on the same boat on that.

00:52:14.740 I had friends 30 years ago start talking to me about chemtrails.

00:52:17.340 And, you know, I'm like, okay, okay, okay.

00:52:19.160 Well, now we know that geoengineering is a real thing.

00:52:22.700 Farmers use it in areas of low water yields and low growth yields to help with their farms.

00:52:30.400 And so, and I think it's especially a reasonable question this year when they just came out of a big drought last year in this region where the river dried up.

00:52:39.460 And so, you think, okay, what are those farmers using?

00:52:41.820 We know Rainmaker works here. 0.76

00:52:43.280 We actually can go to NOAA's website and you can get the maps of where they're using these precipitation increases and, you know, where they're spraying.

00:52:53.980 And you can go and see that.

00:52:55.520 And it happens to be in this general area.

00:52:58.180 And so, there's a reasonable question to say, we're not saying that that caused it, but did that have an impact?

00:53:04.460 Was there any direct correlation from that to then this massive weather system that happens to come up out of nowhere that no one was at forecasting?

00:53:12.740 And if we, do we even know the outside consequences of this geoengineering?

00:53:19.540 If we can't predict the weather next week, how can we then be sending these guys up there to do this and not knowing the ramifications or the outcomes?

00:53:28.460 I think that's a legitimate question.

00:53:30.260 It is.

00:53:30.860 It's kind of frustrating he didn't want to answer that.

00:53:32.680 But it definitely needs to be asked and it needs to be investigated.

00:53:35.580 Quite frankly, right now, it's going to be asked.

00:53:38.600 Ted Cruz and Shillen for Big Tech again, Palantir and these guys, I'm sorry, dude.

00:53:42.960 And to stand up there in front of that and say at the time and then give me the, oh, go hug your children, the Ted Cruz go hug your children, not going to wash. 0.90

00:53:50.920 You're a pimp for Big Tech.

00:53:52.460 We saw this in the AI.

00:53:53.660 You're pimping for Palantir and all these companies.

00:53:55.940 Not only is it reasonable, we don't need permission to ask a question. 0.99

00:53:58.360 We're going to ask the damn question. 0.97

00:53:59.260 And I say this as someone that has the engine rooms or the war room that have been in my face on chemtrails and in my face on bioengineering. 0.99

00:54:07.020 I keep saying, no, no, no, no, no.

00:54:08.400 We've got too many other things.

00:54:10.000 This situation, it's one of the top questions you need to get into like immediately.

00:54:16.280 Also about the whole chain of command and all that, that all has to be done.

00:54:19.260 But this thing has got to be like, okay, let's go back.

00:54:21.620 Let's look at the patterns.

00:54:22.420 What were you doing?

00:54:23.380 And I realize you were doing it for well-intentioned, low yield, you need rain, it's West Texas or not in the hill country, West Texas.

00:54:31.620 But no, we've got to go through the whole thing.

00:54:33.160 And we're going to, Ted Cruz, we're going to go through it.

00:54:35.660 You're not going to do it.

00:54:36.260 That's a CIA deep state kind of misdirection play right there.

00:54:40.300 Go hug your children.

00:54:41.100 Well, we can do two things at the same time.

00:54:43.580 You can hug your children and you owe it to those little girls to look at all the evidence of everything associated with this.

00:54:52.440 They deserve that.

00:54:53.680 Their lives snuffed out at eight or nine years old.

00:54:57.040 And you're going to sit here because big tech may be involved in some way.

00:55:00.360 And no, we're not going to look at, no, sir, no, sir, no, sir.

00:55:03.180 That's the, that's the controlled opposition of the Republican party.

00:55:07.080 And that's why this country is in the fricking mess it's in.

00:55:09.580 And no, we're not going to play by your rules.

00:55:13.700 We saw what you did on artificial intelligence and the shill you were for big tech, you pimp.

00:55:20.180 Ben Burkwam, where do folks go to get you, sir?

00:55:23.440 You're going to be covering this nonstop.

00:55:27.240 Yep.

00:55:27.800 I'm at Real America's Voice on all of our social media.

00:55:31.500 I'm going to be doing shows.

00:55:32.340 I'll be on Charlie Kirk next and shows all throughout the day.

00:55:35.240 My personal social at Ben Burkwam, Substack, Frontline America.

00:55:38.860 And, uh, yeah, just stay tuned.

00:55:40.980 We'll, we'll be bringing it.

00:55:43.840 Perfect.

00:55:44.320 Thank you, sir.

00:55:44.940 Appreciate you.

00:55:46.500 I knew it take Ted Cruz.

00:55:48.060 Yes, sir.

00:55:48.360 My pleasure.

00:55:48.980 Thank you, Steve.

00:55:49.360 To trigger me.

00:55:50.600 But it hit me.

00:55:52.560 Don't have to go too far in the woods today, this weekend to hit my trip wire.

00:55:57.080 He hit it.

00:55:58.440 Uh, we're going to take a short commercial break.

00:56:00.620 Rosemary Jenks here.

00:56:01.460 I got to get Rosemary Jenks in because she's a warrior. 1.00

00:56:03.620 And this is so important.

00:56:05.280 Uh, Homa just came out and said, we got to deport 7,000 folks a day to get rid of all of, uh, the guys that just came on Biden's watch.

00:56:12.080 And my math shows, if you do that for three and a half or four years, it's nine or 10 million people.

00:56:17.160 Hey, just the number I've been saying, you know, Mark Green said 13, President Trump says 2021.

00:56:23.020 Hey, I'll take the higher number, but we got to get rolling on the mass deportations.

00:56:27.080 Deportations, not 7,000 a day.

00:56:30.040 Why not 70,000 a day?

00:56:32.100 And if, because it's logistically we're backed up, then let's put more money into it.

00:56:36.220 Let's take money. 0.99

00:56:37.200 Let's impound money from other things and put more money into it.

00:56:41.300 Deportations are everything.

00:56:43.400 And also, in addition, we need to stop the scam of the H-1B visas and everything around it for the good of the country. 0.98

00:56:52.800 Short commercial break.

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01:01:09.460 Your host, Stephen K.

01:01:12.340 Okay, welcome back.

01:01:17.880 Rosemary Jenks, one of the great warriors.

01:01:20.100 You've got Homan saying $7,000 a day.

01:01:22.200 We've got to get $70,000 a day.

01:01:24.100 Tom, we love you.

01:01:25.040 We'll have you back.

01:01:26.000 Tell us what we need to do.

01:01:26.980 We just got past $170 billion.

01:01:28.960 If that ain't enough, we'll take it out of other places.

01:01:32.180 Microsoft's, I don't know, they've downsized 10,000, 15,000 white-collar technicians, all

01:01:38.540 of it, Rosemary Jenks, in the last couple of weeks.

01:01:40.820 Ford Motor Company said they're going to 50%, I think the next three years, 50% of their

01:01:45.920 white-collar workers are going to be gone because of artificial intelligence.

01:01:48.680 And yet, Microsoft's put in for 6,000 visa waivers of visa applications.

01:01:55.000 H1B visas must go entirely.

01:01:57.060 It's an entire con and scam.

01:01:59.060 What are you doing, and how can our audience help, ma'am?

01:02:02.540 Look, we need to find a member of Congress on the Judiciary Committee, either House or

01:02:07.720 Senate, who is willing to introduce a bill to eliminate H1Bs in the best-case scenario, 1.00

01:02:14.420 or at the very least, end adjustment of status.

01:02:17.880 The American people were sold H1B visas as a temporary way for employers to fill a short-term

01:02:25.520 labor gap.

01:02:26.920 That is not what the H1B program is doing.

01:02:29.620 It is permanently taking jobs away from Americans, and that needs to end. 0.76

01:02:34.480 So either we eliminate the program entirely, which is the best and easiest alternative, or

01:02:40.620 at the very least, we end the ability to adjust status from within the United States so that

01:02:46.660 everyone here on a temporary visa has to actually leave when that visa expires.

01:02:54.260 That would actually disincentivize a lot of H1Bs and foreign students who come here for 0.60

01:03:00.000 the sole purpose of remaining here permanently.

01:03:01.980 What – we will come back to you.

01:03:07.520 I got some ideas.

01:03:08.300 I talked to you the other weekend.

01:03:09.040 I got some very specific ideas on both Senate and House, and I'll run those by you before

01:03:13.120 we make those public on the show.

01:03:15.220 What is – just once again, tell – particularly in – they did it as a temporary, but today

01:03:21.300 with the overwhelming evidence that our best-educated in the current generation, this is why they're

01:03:26.580 not getting jobs and not getting good-paying jobs.

01:03:28.960 Artificial intelligence is totally changing how business operates, like the Internet did

01:03:34.240 30 years ago.

01:03:36.360 Why is this still a controversy?

01:03:38.620 Why is it that Congress can't see they've got to change this legislation, that the American

01:03:43.280 people, and particularly hard-working Americans, right, have done everything from grade school

01:03:48.060 to high school to college to get these degrees, these tough STEM degrees, that they're the

01:03:53.440 ones that are bearing the brunt of this?

01:03:55.120 Why are these people so hard to communicate about this issue, ma'am?

01:04:00.420 Yeah, you're absolutely right, Steve.

01:04:01.820 And the fact is that almost 12 million American STEM grads are not working in STEM.

01:04:07.820 They're either unemployed or they're working in other industries because they can't find

01:04:11.120 a job in a STEM field.

01:04:13.300 And, you know, this is a problem with the donor class.

01:04:16.240 That's the bottom line.

01:04:17.320 It's the donors who are saying, no, no, we need cheap labor.

01:04:21.320 We've got to have our continuous supply of cheap labor.

01:04:25.740 And that is destroying America's youth.

01:04:29.700 I mean, imagine being a college grad.

01:04:31.760 You've spent all these years doing exactly what you were told to do, getting into a tech

01:04:36.180 field.

01:04:36.760 You get out of college and you see that all of the foreign students have been hired through 1.00

01:04:42.200 an OPT program because the employers actually get a subsidy to hire the foreigners instead 0.59

01:04:47.300 of you.

01:04:47.800 And then permanent jobs are blocked off because of this continuous pipeline of H-1Bs. 1.00

01:04:53.840 It's crazy.

01:04:55.020 It needs to stop.

01:04:56.300 And that means that the donor class is going to have to be told no.

01:05:01.140 It's time to put Americans first.

01:05:02.840 Rosemary, you left Numbers USA, but you were a mainstay and just did a magnificent job to

01:05:09.200 go to the Accountability Project.

01:05:10.960 Tell people where to go.

01:05:12.060 What are you doing now?

01:05:12.860 Because when Rosemary Jenks says, hey, we know what the math is.

01:05:16.680 I've spent a couple of decades of my life showing the American people that.

01:05:19.180 We know what the math is.

01:05:20.520 People are now motivated.

01:05:21.640 It's time for action, action, action to stop it.

01:05:25.640 Where do folks go, ma'am?

01:05:27.860 Immigration Accountability Project is at IAProject.org.

01:05:32.480 IAProject.org.

01:05:33.780 All of our social media is linked at the top of that homepage.

01:05:37.540 We are going to hold members of Congress accountable for every vote.

01:05:42.820 You can find every immigration vote they take on our website.

01:05:46.160 All the executive branch actions are on our website.

01:05:50.700 We will provide all the information you need so that you know exactly what your member of

01:05:55.300 Congress is doing or not doing.

01:05:57.580 And we need your help so that we can find members of Congress who have the courage.

01:06:01.640 We actually have several members of Congress who are speaking out about legal immigration

01:06:05.540 now, including Jim Jordan and Chip Roy and Mike Lee.

01:06:08.760 Uh, and we need to work with them and get them to introduce the bills that we need to

01:06:14.180 actually deal with this issue.

01:06:18.860 America for Americans.

01:06:21.160 How's that sound?

01:06:21.720 American citizens.

01:06:22.480 Does that sound good?

01:06:23.360 Pretty logical.

01:06:24.540 Rosemary, you're a hero.

01:06:25.880 We love you.

01:06:26.460 We'll have you back.

01:06:27.480 We got you back on this fight.

01:06:28.740 We're going to get in harness with you.

01:06:30.700 Thanks, Steve.

01:06:31.520 This is when I say, when she says 12 million, these are the people.

01:06:35.160 Remember when I went to college, I came out of military school.

01:06:37.580 I wanted to have a couple of years to goof off because I knew I was going to go in the

01:06:40.720 service.

01:06:41.940 The engineering thing was too hard.

01:06:43.900 These are the people who go to the engineering.

01:06:45.380 They take the hardest majors and grind it out.

01:06:49.060 And they've done everything they're supposed to since they're like in kindergarten.

01:06:52.460 You have 12 million of the best that we got, the hardest working with the most grit that

01:06:58.600 don't have a job.

01:07:00.220 And we're bringing in foreigners and you're subsidizing your taxes to hell with that. 1.00

01:07:05.000 We're not going to do it.

01:07:05.860 Elmo, not going to do it.

01:07:08.720 The country.

01:07:09.420 No, we're not going to have a country.

01:07:11.920 You're not going to have a country when the best, when the best are told you do everything

01:07:17.100 you're supposed to at the top and the hardest.

01:07:19.140 And you've sacrificed all that time to focus on this.

01:07:23.160 And then you can't get a job or you can't get a good paying job. 0.98

01:07:26.960 Screw you. 0.96

01:07:27.680 This is the way you're going to lose the country. 0.99

01:07:29.260 This is the way you're going to lose the country.

01:07:32.620 You understand why that guy's got some traction up in New York City?

01:07:35.160 This is the reason.

01:07:38.800 And you either do it the way that we're going to change it around and make for U.S. citizens.

01:07:42.500 I'm telling you, you're going to look into the abyss.

01:07:46.020 Mike Lindell, took up your time.

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01:07:49.920 I'd leave it.

01:07:50.400 Charlie Kirk's next.

01:07:51.320 We're back at 5.

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01:08:54.280 That's some big public thing.

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Bannon's War Room - July 07, 2025

Episode 4613： Kerr County Press Conference Live

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