Bannon's War Room - July 09, 2025


Episode 4620: Enforcing Fair Trade; Deconstructing The Systems Against The American People


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

175.90648

Word Count

9,575

Sentence Count

827

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

14


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:08.680 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:13.900 Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:18.200 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:20.100 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:21.540 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:24.220 It's going to happen.
00:00:25.480 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:28.920 Mega Media.
00:00:30.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:35.700 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:39.440 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:45.780 War Room.
00:00:46.660 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:53.080 It is a Wednesday, the 9th of July, year of World War II, 2025.
00:00:56.700 Welcome.
00:00:57.140 We've got a VIP guest, Gail Slater from the Justice Department, Department of Justice, Antitrust Division.
00:01:04.280 Thank you so much for coming.
00:01:05.700 And I know it's tough to, first off, to book people of the Justice Department, particularly someone as busy as you,
00:01:12.180 that is helping to make sure that we keep in check too much concentration of power.
00:01:18.620 Talk for a second.
00:01:19.500 You've got some breaking news of something you've just done today.
00:01:21.720 Yes, sir.
00:01:22.220 And I've known, Gail, you were at NEC or NSC?
00:01:25.960 You were at NSC?
00:01:26.660 NEC.
00:01:27.180 NEC.
00:01:27.760 National Economic Council in President Trump's first term.
00:01:30.300 That's right.
00:01:30.740 And then in the interim, was it Hulu or?
00:01:35.460 Roku.
00:01:35.960 Roku.
00:01:36.460 One of your many platforms.
00:01:37.340 One of our many platforms.
00:01:38.340 You were Roku's lawyer.
00:01:39.660 And then you've come back in and you head the Antitrust Division for the Justice Department.
00:01:44.720 That's like, I mean, it's like you, Harmeet Dillon, so many people who know are at these senior level positions really running the Justice Department.
00:01:51.880 And all of us are honored to be there.
00:01:53.600 Yes.
00:01:54.160 Fantastic.
00:01:55.260 What did you learn in your time at NEC?
00:01:58.200 I learned that in order to compete against China, we need to be in all these global races the American way.
00:02:08.680 And what I mean by that is we'll never beat China by becoming more like China.
00:02:13.540 China has national champions.
00:02:15.160 They have a controlled economy, et cetera, et cetera.
00:02:17.880 We win all these races, and history has taught us this too, Steve, by our free market system, by letting the ball rip, by letting companies compete, by out-innovating one another.
00:02:30.060 And the reason why antitrust matters to that picture, to the free market system, is because we're the cop on the beat at the end of the day.
00:02:36.400 We step in when competition is not working, and we ensure that markets remain competitive.
00:02:41.780 So people would say that's odd coming from the populist nationalists, the MAGA movement.
00:02:48.820 And you've been MAGA to your core, right?
00:02:50.500 You were there.
00:02:51.420 Yes, sir.
00:02:52.520 People, if you want to know what heavy duty was, the first term was pretty tough, and we were literally surrounded.
00:02:57.640 As today, we know, we're going to have posts on others on as, you know, it looks like Brennan and Kobe have a criminal investigation about Russiagate, right?
00:03:05.460 Sure.
00:03:05.580 As you know, it's kind of Fort Apache every day at the White House as we were besieged by the deep state.
00:03:11.000 How do you take in that thing about competition and what you're trying to do and breaking up these, really going after the concentration of these oligarchs with the populist nationalist movement?
00:03:22.620 Well, it's a daily task.
00:03:26.880 It's a case-by-case enforcement-led project.
00:03:29.780 We don't do policy per se.
00:03:31.340 We're law enforcers because we are cops on the beat.
00:03:34.360 And so I could talk to you about a couple of the cases that we're working on.
00:03:37.720 Our big announcement today had to do with a bid-wrecking situation.
00:03:41.520 Down at the University of Texas in Austin.
00:03:45.220 So not everybody in Texas loves UT, I get it.
00:03:48.020 But a lot of taxpayer money was being spent on the Moody Arena down in Texas, right?
00:03:55.400 The contract for services was put out to tender.
00:03:59.460 Ordinarily, you'd expect to see companies competing hard for that kind of business, right?
00:04:03.140 Particularly in Texas.
00:04:03.560 Particularly in Texas.
00:04:04.880 Well, guess what?
00:04:06.080 The companies pulled their punches.
00:04:08.040 And one company was left being the sole bidder on the contract.
00:04:10.840 And that involved a lot of overcharges to the good people of Texas.
00:04:13.500 And did they subcontract out to other people who should have been competing against them?
00:04:16.780 So people were spreading their wealth?
00:04:18.600 There were promises made that they would spread the wealth.
00:04:21.420 You know this from your L.A. days, I'm sure, Steve.
00:04:24.280 The entertainment business.
00:04:25.420 They were named on the promise.
00:04:26.880 And so you end up with one guy with all of the business.
00:04:29.100 And so today, fast forward to 2025, under President Trump's leadership, the DOJ under Pan Bondi has been tasked with looking at the ways in which competition is not working in live entertainment in general.
00:04:44.160 So we've got consumers.
00:04:45.660 We've got a lack of competition.
00:04:47.420 We've got gatekeepers standing between consumers and competition and all of the good things that competition brings to consumers.
00:04:53.780 We brought a civil case against Live Nation last year under the Biden administration.
00:04:59.000 We're carrying forward with that.
00:05:00.620 That's up in the Southern District of New York.
00:05:02.480 We've got 40 states, 40, four zero states standing with us in that case.
00:05:05.760 Is that where they're rigging the price of the tickets?
00:05:07.940 Well, so we've got a number of different allegations in that case.
00:05:11.500 Today's case is a criminal case, so different than our civil case against Live Nation.
00:05:16.400 And it's against one individual, a guy named Tim Lewicki.
00:05:19.200 I don't know if you're familiar with him, Steve.
00:05:20.680 So he was, until recently, the CEO of Oakview, which is one of these groups, right, that bids for this business.
00:05:27.860 And so it's a bid rigging case.
00:05:31.000 We also have non-prosecution agreements already in place with Oakview Group and with Legends, which would have been the competitor bidding for that business.
00:05:40.420 So that's an example of the kind of thing that we're bringing to the table.
00:05:44.200 We call it MAGA antitrust.
00:05:45.920 I know you're fond of Neo-Brandeisian.
00:05:48.200 Nomenclature matters to you.
00:05:49.420 It matters to us, too.
00:05:50.360 So we do MAGA antitrust.
00:05:52.000 We do America First antitrust.
00:05:53.700 What's a MAGA antitrust?
00:05:54.860 So if you're violating the antitrust laws, we're going to take a hard look.
00:06:00.320 If you're not violating the antitrust laws, we're going to get the hell out of the way.
00:06:03.180 But we're going to be cops on the beat when we see a violation.
00:06:06.220 Firm but fair enforcement.
00:06:07.320 That hasn't been enforced in a long time, correct?
00:06:09.980 Under Biden, you had Lena Kahn and others.
00:06:13.280 She was at the FTC, but you had others.
00:06:14.820 They really looked the other way on this concentration of power?
00:06:17.840 That's our assessment.
00:06:18.740 It was also, frankly, President Trump's assessment towards the end of his first term.
00:06:22.680 As you know, he filed the Google search case, which we're carrying forward.
00:06:26.900 There's a through line from there through the Bidens to us today.
00:06:30.340 Talk about that because the Google case is a landmark case.
00:06:33.260 It's a landmark case.
00:06:34.220 So you've got him in one court in Northern Virginia for the search engine?
00:06:38.740 That's for the advertising technology.
00:06:40.100 The advertising and the search engine is in D.C.?
00:06:42.580 That's here in D.C., yeah.
00:06:44.380 That's pretty extraordinary.
00:06:45.460 You're managing two cases against probably one of the most powerful companies in the world.
00:06:50.440 That's right.
00:06:50.760 You bifurcated it in two different sectors to go after the two core reasons why they're a monopoly?
00:06:55.760 And again, both those investigations were open during President Trump's first term.
00:06:59.580 So we see this through line to today.
00:07:02.200 The Bidens litigated both cases to the liability phase.
00:07:06.500 Two district courts now have fined Google liable for monopolization.
00:07:10.080 One in here in District Court in D.C. in the search engine market and the other in this ad tech market was the technology that's used at the back end of the Internet to serve ads between publishers and us, consumers.
00:07:23.260 That's the reason that you have thousands of companies competing in different or hundreds of companies competing in different sectors.
00:07:28.620 You've got Google.
00:07:29.960 You've got DuckDuckGo and Bing, and that's it?
00:07:33.240 I mean, they really have no competitor?
00:07:34.520 Yeah.
00:07:35.020 I mean, our argument is that the competition in that online search market has been frozen in place.
00:07:40.220 For the best part of two decades now, you've not seen some movement in market shares.
00:07:44.920 You've not seen particularly robust competitors enter the market.
00:07:48.480 And so that's when the antitrust cop steps in.
00:07:51.140 Right.
00:07:51.400 And that's why President Trump filed the case at the end of his first term.
00:07:55.640 The media told me on inauguration day when he saw the oligarch sitting in back of President Trump that they were going to run the deal.
00:08:03.980 That hasn't turned out to be the case, has it?
00:08:06.760 Yeah.
00:08:06.900 I mean, I don't speak for them, obviously.
00:08:11.460 There was a perception.
00:08:13.200 There was a perception at the start of the term.
00:08:15.120 What I would say is look to...
00:08:18.000 That was a media narrative.
00:08:19.120 It wasn't the President Trump's narrative.
00:08:20.740 It was a media narrative.
00:08:22.200 President Trump made the personnel choices he made.
00:08:24.460 And as we know, personnel is policy.
00:08:26.060 And so you have, in me, a cop on the beat at the antitrust division at DOJ.
00:08:31.900 You have Chair Ferguson over at the FTC.
00:08:34.160 You have Mark Meador over at the FTC.
00:08:36.560 And so we're doing Trump antitrust.
00:08:39.280 We're not doing Bush antitrust.
00:08:40.860 We're not doing Biden antitrust.
00:08:43.020 The pendulum swings.
00:08:44.120 But we're doing Trump antitrust.
00:08:46.260 Is Trump antitrust, because I want to, as you know, we like the Warren Posse of nomenclature.
00:08:50.720 You have this thing called the Chicago School.
00:08:52.260 That's right.
00:08:52.640 And you have the Neo-Brandeisians.
00:08:54.140 That's right.
00:08:54.960 Which we consider ourselves...
00:08:56.560 What is the difference?
00:08:57.980 And when you say Bush and Biden and even Obama, when you talk about the antitrust, what's the difference in Chicago School versus the Neo-Brandeisians?
00:09:05.720 So one, we would say, was under-enforcement.
00:09:09.260 So that's the Bush school, right?
00:09:11.300 We would say that Bidens, in some areas, in some ways, over-enforce the law.
00:09:17.200 So I'll give you a concrete example.
00:09:18.780 One of the things we heard from Wall Street during the transition was it's very hard to get deals reviewed by the antitrust agencies.
00:09:24.260 Just slow.
00:09:24.680 It's slow.
00:09:25.620 The deal flow has slowed down.
00:09:27.500 You need to build more efficiency into that review process, which we take very seriously.
00:09:32.220 And so at the front end of deals, we've speeded up the process where there is no issue with the merger.
00:09:38.620 Many mergers are benign.
00:09:39.960 They're notified to us because they trigger a certain threshold.
00:09:43.420 We're just getting out of the way.
00:09:45.040 And we're saying, okay, you're free to close.
00:09:46.760 There's not a antitrust issue here.
00:09:48.280 We're not going to hold on to your filing just because we can, right?
00:09:51.120 At the back end of deals, one of the things I said at my confirmation hearing, different than my predecessor, was, not to get too arcane, but yes, about nomenclature.
00:10:00.340 If there's a merger that we can settle, we'll settle it.
00:10:04.680 We don't have to go to court to sue to block every merger.
00:10:07.580 That's not the game here.
00:10:08.880 And so we've already racked up three, four settlements that we think meet the competition challenge, but let the deal, the rest of the deal go forward and close.
00:10:18.620 So that's a concrete example of how we're different than the Bidens.
00:10:22.540 But at the same time, we've carried forward with these big monopolization cases we just talked about.
00:10:26.680 When people look at the populist nationalist movement and you want more competition, deconstruction in the administrative state, still with a regulatory aspect to it, and people say, no, you guys speak out of the two sides of your mouth because China is an existential threat and you need national champions.
00:10:44.960 We're seeing this in AI right now.
00:10:46.280 You need national champions.
00:10:47.380 Like I say, there's more regulations to open a nail salon on Capitol Hill than there is in artificial intelligence.
00:10:54.680 This is why the moratorium was so big to pull out.
00:10:57.820 What's your response to that?
00:10:59.280 In the global, in the world we live in today, with China doing what they're doing, right, as a totalitarian, essentially authoritarian government versus ourselves, how do you balance that?
00:11:10.620 That's a great question.
00:11:11.360 So you look to history.
00:11:13.900 You look to history a lot, Steve, I know.
00:11:15.680 So there's a great example of how we will win this race, any future race against China, any authoritarian regime, the American way.
00:11:23.440 So AT&T, I know a company that's dear to your heart and your family, right?
00:11:27.980 You were raised on AT&T paychecks.
00:11:30.440 So AT&T back in the day, in the 80s, right?
00:11:32.920 You're not going to talk about the breakup of AT&T.
00:11:34.580 I'm going to talk about the breakup of AT&T.
00:11:36.360 Every night at the dinner table, my dad.
00:11:37.840 I know.
00:11:38.200 But this is a good news story, and this is about how we're going to win all these races against China.
00:11:42.760 So AT&T, back in the day, it's the 80s.
00:11:45.740 They're getting threatened with a breakup by the Justice Department, the antitrust division, where I now work.
00:11:51.280 AT&T said, you cannot break us up.
00:11:53.420 We are a national champion.
00:11:54.660 If you break us up, we're going to lose the Cold War.
00:11:56.900 Guess what?
00:11:57.940 The Justice Department broke AT&T up.
00:12:00.480 Big fire pucks.
00:12:01.860 They made the baby bells.
00:12:03.320 And from that breakup, unleashed all kinds of innovations.
00:12:07.720 The first internet modem came out of AT&T, the Bell Labs, right?
00:12:11.900 The wireless industry came out of the breakup.
00:12:14.500 All these cool things happened.
00:12:15.140 Although my dad would tell you the Bell Labs, but that's a conversation.
00:12:17.980 No, but you're...
00:12:19.760 You get my point?
00:12:20.480 Big time.
00:12:21.060 They said we're going to lose the Cold War if you break us up.
00:12:24.020 Yes.
00:12:24.400 So all these cool things happened.
00:12:25.820 Guess what?
00:12:26.620 1990, who wins the Cold War, Steve?
00:12:29.320 The good guys.
00:12:30.060 Okay.
00:12:30.320 So that's the lesson from history.
00:12:31.760 We gave that victory away.
00:12:33.440 We only got a couple minutes.
00:12:34.760 All right.
00:12:34.840 When people think of the antitrust division going forward, what are you guys trying to
00:12:40.400 accomplish with President...
00:12:41.800 Because President Trump, as you said, he's not the Bushes.
00:12:43.900 He's going to force it.
00:12:45.240 Being an entrepreneur businessman, what should people look forward to directionally?
00:12:49.600 Where are you guys going to go?
00:12:50.740 Okay.
00:12:51.180 So we're going to be fair cops on the bead.
00:12:55.060 We're going to do robust enforcement where it's appropriate.
00:12:57.960 If there's no issue with your deal, we're going to get the hell out of the way.
00:13:02.520 Okay.
00:13:03.240 Fair enough.
00:13:04.120 You brought...
00:13:04.760 I did.
00:13:05.200 I did.
00:13:05.820 Normally you bring cookies or carrot cake.
00:13:07.760 I know.
00:13:08.160 I don't want to give her location away.
00:13:09.640 As good neighbors do.
00:13:10.880 Let's say...
00:13:11.440 Let's say...
00:13:12.220 Gail's the den mother of the war group.
00:13:14.700 I tried to bring him a bottle of wine.
00:13:16.260 He said, I'm keeping that from Nigel Farage.
00:13:18.400 Somebody would use it.
00:13:19.680 What do you got there?
00:13:20.500 I got you a wristband.
00:13:21.840 This is a wristband that came from the Google trial team in the search case.
00:13:25.340 Hold it up so people can read it into the camera.
00:13:27.480 Okay.
00:13:27.620 So...
00:13:27.760 The camera pulling.
00:13:28.360 Was his hand on one side?
00:13:29.380 The trial team made this wristband, and it's the adjectives...
00:13:33.200 Again, nomenclature matters, right, Steve?
00:13:35.360 ...that Google used to describe our pre-trial brief in that case.
00:13:39.400 And what did they say?
00:13:40.060 What is it?
00:13:40.420 They said we were reckless and dangerous.
00:13:42.540 Reckless and dangerous.
00:13:43.320 And irresponsible.
00:13:44.200 And I thought, I know just the man for that wristband.
00:13:47.560 Wow.
00:13:47.800 Thank you, Steve.
00:13:49.060 Reckless...
00:13:49.580 Radical and dangerous.
00:13:50.700 Radical.
00:13:51.080 I left out of that.
00:13:51.400 Radical and dangerous, and reckless and irresponsible.
00:13:54.180 For the record, our pre-trial brief was none of those things.
00:13:57.160 It was not.
00:13:57.640 It was a very responsible brief.
00:13:58.920 But you also beat the...
00:14:00.100 You also beat...
00:14:01.040 You're beating the Google guys, right?
00:14:03.500 Well, I mean, we're not done yet.
00:14:04.800 Yes, we'll have to see what they're...
00:14:05.900 They're a trillion-dollar company.
00:14:07.260 You know, they're not going to roll over, so...
00:14:09.320 Social media.
00:14:10.620 Where do people find out more about the department, more about all of this?
00:14:13.640 Learn about Neil Brandeisian versus Chicago School, your social media?
00:14:17.180 Versus America First.
00:14:18.400 There's America, MAGA, America First.
00:14:20.380 I'm bringing the new name nomenclature to the table here.
00:14:22.580 You're brand management over at the Justice Department of DOJ.
00:14:26.140 I'm trying, Steve.
00:14:26.860 Forget that Neil Brandeisian.
00:14:28.240 He was a Democrat, wasn't he?
00:14:29.440 A radical Democrat.
00:14:30.920 Where do people go?
00:14:32.420 So I'm at Twitter, X, at A-A-G Slater.
00:14:37.500 And my personal account is Gail A. Slater.
00:14:40.040 Gail A. Slater.
00:14:40.980 And there's a website over at the department?
00:14:42.680 Do we have that?
00:14:43.260 Yes, sir.
00:14:44.100 What is it?
00:14:45.200 We're at the DOJ.gov website.
00:14:47.120 And by the way, the conference you put on was fantastic.
00:14:50.980 Thank you.
00:14:51.480 Gail Slater, love you so much.
00:14:53.640 Short break.
00:14:54.380 Back in a moment.
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00:16:33.460 a dozen federal agencies.
00:16:35.300 This after the Supreme Court yesterday imposed an administrative stay on a lower court ruling
00:16:40.800 that would have put limits on the actions that the president can take.
00:16:45.980 NBC News reports the justices made it clear that their order is not about the legality
00:16:52.560 of any individual agency reduction in force or reorganization plan, only the legality of
00:17:00.360 Trump's executive order and an administration memo related to workforce plans.
00:17:06.360 Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson provided a written dissent in which she called the decision, quote, senseless.
00:17:13.960 Trump administration's efforts to politicize intelligence and U.S. national security.
00:17:19.160 It is also the culmination of a long and mostly fruitless nine-year campaign by Team Trump to rewrite history when it comes to Russia and the 2016 presidential election.
00:17:31.040 In the wake of furious backlash from some of Donald Trump's most prominent supporters over the Justice Department debunking their conspiracy theories about convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein,
00:17:44.920 not 12 hours after that happens, comes news that DOJ has launched investigations into two people Donald Trump has singled out and attacked and smeared over and over and over again.
00:17:57.160 A Justice Department spokesperson tells NBC News that officials have opened criminal investigations into both former CIA director John Brennan and former director of the FBI, Jim Comey.
00:18:10.180 The FBI declined to comment to NBC News and Jim Comey has not responded to a request for comment.
00:18:17.180 Now, exactly what conduct is being investigated is unclear at this hour.
00:18:21.320 But when it comes to John Brennan, who we should note is a senior national security and intelligence analyst right here at MSNBC, NBC News is reporting that his successor at the CIA,
00:18:33.780 director John Ratcliffe, made a criminal referral over John Brennan's handling of a 2017 assessment.
00:18:40.840 That assessment found with a high level of confidence that Russian President Vladimir Putin aspired to help the Trump campaign.
00:18:48.180 Let's go to Jack Posobiec is sitting here.
00:18:51.560 By the way, Gail Slater, that was Gail Slater's first interview here in the war room.
00:18:58.040 You know, though, because I see her at events and I always assume that I've seen her.
00:19:02.220 I didn't realize she hadn't actually been in front of the camera before.
00:19:04.640 No, she was amazing.
00:19:05.920 She was natural.
00:19:06.800 Absolutely natural.
00:19:07.260 She's also the, she's the, she runs the deal up here in Capitol Hill.
00:19:11.000 And it shows you the caliber of people that the Trump administration has put together in these places.
00:19:16.500 And people know I've been critical of certain elements of the DOJ lately.
00:19:19.760 But, you know, when you look at, at, at the granular level, and that's what we do in the war room.
00:19:24.960 I mean, these are very serious people.
00:19:27.040 Oh, Harmeet.
00:19:27.620 Absolutely.
00:19:28.380 Harmeet, come on.
00:19:29.280 So Davis, you would, you would appreciate this.
00:19:30.980 I'm doing my Neo Brandeisian, right?
00:19:32.940 I'm doing my Neo Brandeisian, my Lena Khan.
00:19:35.300 And she's not.
00:19:35.620 Is Lena here?
00:19:36.240 She comes by today?
00:19:37.020 She goes, she goes, no, no, no, no.
00:19:38.840 It's the MAGA antitrust.
00:19:41.780 I got it.
00:19:43.120 Branding's everything.
00:19:43.840 You know, all the Claremont guys love Lena.
00:19:45.760 Oh, yeah.
00:19:46.120 Oh, yeah.
00:19:46.440 Big time.
00:19:47.100 Oh, yeah.
00:19:47.600 So do we.
00:19:48.020 Mike Davis.
00:19:49.020 This, I want to make, so today on the morning show is all deep state.
00:19:52.920 From the Epstein thing, everything.
00:19:54.300 All deep state.
00:19:55.780 And they're Pharaoh's army.
00:19:57.160 We're at war.
00:19:58.000 But the Supreme Court has backed us up in this, had they not, with this ruling.
00:20:02.980 Because I'm telling you, Weissman, the entire MSNBC thing is in the mumble tank on this announcement
00:20:10.000 to the Supreme Court and on top of Brennan and Comey being under investigation.
00:20:15.000 So first of all, start the Supreme Court.
00:20:16.580 What was actually decided?
00:20:18.480 Why are our enemies in the mumble tank on this thing about the opportunities we have with
00:20:23.180 this ruling, sir?
00:20:23.960 So back in February, President Trump issued an executive order carrying out what he promised
00:20:31.540 American voters he would do, which is a significant, large-scale reduction in the federal workforce,
00:20:39.440 right?
00:20:39.700 We have too many federal workers.
00:20:42.160 We have too many people doing jobs that don't matter to the American people.
00:20:47.220 And President Trump did the unthinkable.
00:20:49.620 Again, he issued an executive order, and he told the Office of Personal Management and
00:20:57.360 other agencies, Office of Management and Budget, to promptly undertake preparations to initiate
00:21:02.880 large-scale reductions in force, rifts, consistent with applicable law, right?
00:21:09.080 And so a San Francisco left-wing activist judge appointed by Clinton issued one of her
00:21:16.400 temporary restraining orders on this and said that they can't even prepare to do a workforce
00:21:22.040 reduction consistent with the law, meaning it's—so it's just inexplicable.
00:21:28.120 Of course, the Ninth Circuit, which is left-wing, let this activist judge get away with this,
00:21:34.580 and it took several months for the Supreme Court to finally step in.
00:21:39.580 And the Supreme Court did step in, and it was 8 to 1.
00:21:42.120 You had Justice Ketanji Brown-Jackson write an idiotic dissent, and it was so idiotic that
00:21:49.740 even Justice Sonia Sotomayor did not join Justice Jackson's idiotic dissent.
00:21:57.040 Again, that's how bad it was.
00:21:58.340 It's usually dueling idiotic dissents from both of them, but this was too dumb even for
00:22:04.300 Sotomayor.
00:22:04.900 And now the president and his team can move forward with preparing for federal workforce
00:22:12.940 reductions, which is his absolute power to do as the chief executive officer under Article
00:22:20.760 2 of the Constitution.
00:22:22.040 So you've preached this for a long time, and the court—the President Trump went to court.
00:22:28.820 They backed it up.
00:22:30.320 Just in a practical matter, can we now go to the FBI and, like, deconstruct the FBI?
00:22:35.880 Can we go to the CIA and start to deconstruct the CIA?
00:22:39.260 Can we do what Carrie Lake's doing at VOA and take it down to its statutory limits?
00:22:43.860 I mean, can we go into these places that we know are working against the American people
00:22:48.540 and start to take out chunks, whole chunks, and really do deconstruction, not onesies,
00:22:53.260 twosies where a billet comes open and you just say, hey, I'm going to keep it open?
00:22:56.900 Because I think that's what the CIA said, they're going to let go of 1,000 people, but
00:23:00.500 it's over time, as billets come open, they're not going to fill them.
00:23:03.740 Can we actually go in with this ruling?
00:23:05.960 Can President Trump go in and start to take apart the deep state?
00:23:09.480 Yes, and they should.
00:23:11.000 The Trump administration should move forward.
00:23:13.700 You're going to get another activist judge issuing another temporary restraining order,
00:23:18.840 which is not temporary at all.
00:23:20.480 It's going to be a preliminary injunction masquerading as a temporary restraining order.
00:23:25.120 But look, they're going to say this only applies to the preparation phase when they actually
00:23:31.700 go to do it.
00:23:32.900 There's going to be another temporary restraining order preliminary injunction.
00:23:37.040 The Trump Justice Department, led by Attorney General Pam Bondi and Deputy Attorney General
00:23:42.840 Todd Blanche and Solicitor General John Sauer, they're doing a phenomenal job of taking these
00:23:51.760 things aggressively to the Supreme Court in winning.
00:23:55.180 The Supreme Court is finally starting to act.
00:23:58.340 Like I said, it took two months for them to rule on this.
00:24:01.800 The Supreme Court needs to act more quickly.
00:24:04.900 This is obvious judicial sabotage by these activist judges.
00:24:09.580 These activist judges know that they can slow down the Trump administration by several months,
00:24:15.040 and you'll never get back those crucial months in your four-year term.
00:24:19.800 And so the Trump administration should move forward and move forward aggressively with these
00:24:25.760 reduction in force plans or rifts.
00:24:28.580 And they can do it so long as that there's not a statutory hurdle for them.
00:24:32.860 So if there's a statute that says that there has to be an office, they have to keep that office.
00:24:37.420 But that doesn't mean you have to have a thousand people in that office unless the statute says so.
00:24:42.000 Okay, so I'll come to you in the second post on this, taking apart the deep state and using this
00:24:47.420 as one of the tools.
00:24:49.060 Mike, also the leak that came out about, and Brennan said today on MSNBC he has not been served with
00:24:55.200 anything, but the criminal investigation of Comey and Brennan, both of these hit at the same time.
00:25:02.260 Your thoughts, sir?
00:25:03.680 Well, Steve, I've been on your show.
00:25:05.800 I've been on Jack's show since the Mar-a-Lago raid constantly, hundreds of times, talking about
00:25:12.760 the fact that the White's President Obama and Vice President Biden and Brennan and Clapper
00:25:20.720 and Comey and so many others did.
00:25:23.660 They politicized and weaponized law enforcement and intel agencies to go after their political
00:25:29.000 enemies.
00:25:29.340 They made up the Russian collusion hoax with the Steele dossier with Perkins, Cooey.
00:25:34.600 They lied to the FISA court.
00:25:36.520 They spied on then-presidential candidate Donald Trump.
00:25:40.240 They continued to spy on President Donald Trump when he was in the White House.
00:25:44.820 They ran constant lawfare against him.
00:25:47.300 They sabotaged his first term with the Russian collusion hoax.
00:25:50.980 I remember when I was in the Senate, even Senate Republicans were running around with their
00:25:56.100 heads cut off because of Russian collusion.
00:25:57.820 They were convinced that Trump could have been a Russian spy because of this.
00:26:02.340 It hobbled his first term.
00:26:04.160 They continued this lawfare against President Trump when they did the Mar-a-Lago raid to
00:26:08.880 get back the declassified crossfire hurricane records that President Trump declassified via
00:26:14.300 presidential executive order the day before he left office.
00:26:18.200 They brought four bogus indictments against President Trump.
00:26:21.940 They tried to bankrupt him for non-fraud.
00:26:24.380 They tried to take him off the ballot.
00:26:26.580 They tried to take off his head twice when they underfunded a Secret Service and President
00:26:30.940 Biden said to put a bullseye on President Trump's head.
00:26:34.140 I have been calling for accountability for this.
00:26:37.220 I've been calling for a criminal probe on this and the Justice Department.
00:26:41.560 I've been doing that for years.
00:26:43.800 You know, 4,500 media hits later.
00:26:46.860 We're finally going to get justice, as we've promised on your show, on Jack's show.
00:26:52.040 So I would say to Comey and Clapper and Brennan and Hillary and Biden and Obama, lawyer up because
00:27:00.920 justice is definitely coming.
00:27:03.060 We're pressed for time, but I got to ask you, Papadopoulos on this morning.
00:27:08.600 I said, hey, this, I think this may be for the, his perjury.
00:27:12.580 You know, the statute of limitations running on Brennan on certain of the worst crimes, but
00:27:16.820 you've got this perjury.
00:27:18.420 But Papadopoulos thinks this is a conspiracy that looking at them on a criminal conspiracy
00:27:22.700 charge.
00:27:23.200 Any thoughts on that before we let you go?
00:27:26.700 The statute of limitations is not told because this is an ongoing criminal conspiracy and
00:27:31.560 the criminal conspiracy does not end until people disavow the conspiracy.
00:27:37.220 And they have not done that.
00:27:38.240 This is ongoing.
00:27:39.100 They've actually, through lying in 2022, this alleged perjury in 2022, they've actually,
00:27:45.980 there's actually fraud that continues the conspiracy.
00:27:48.920 So not only have they not disavowed the conspiracy, they've actually covered up the conspiracy,
00:27:54.320 which makes it ongoing.
00:27:55.560 We are clearly within the statute of limitations.
00:27:58.000 We're, we're good.
00:27:58.920 They can move forward on federal charges.
00:28:01.540 Yeah.
00:28:03.000 Social media, article three, where do people get you, sir?
00:28:06.580 Article three, project.org, article number three, project.org.
00:28:09.720 Follow us, donate only what you can afford and take action.
00:28:14.940 Thank you, brother.
00:28:15.780 Appreciate it.
00:28:16.540 Thank you.
00:28:17.100 The subject will be with us, we're going to Geneva, and we're going out with the Washington
00:28:21.780 Redskins fight song.
00:28:23.340 We'll explain it when we get back.
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00:29:54.620 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:29:58.680 Oh, can we get – I'll play this at the end.
00:30:01.880 It's so great to play Washington Redskins.
00:30:03.840 Hail to the Redskins.
00:30:04.740 President Trump bringing the Redskins back.
00:30:06.980 Slowly but surely.
00:30:08.140 With a diehard Philadelphia Eagles fan.
00:30:11.080 Excuse me, I think you mean the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles.
00:30:15.040 Just want to make sure to fact-check you here in the world.
00:30:17.760 Wow, wow, wow.
00:30:19.340 The Pacific brothers from Philly.
00:30:21.120 I mean –
00:30:21.520 What do you think about the Redskins coming back?
00:30:23.060 Isn't it great?
00:30:24.000 I mean, is it – has it been officialized yet?
00:30:26.320 They're going to do the colors first.
00:30:28.060 No, 100% needs to come back.
00:30:30.400 Needs to come back.
00:30:32.320 And by the way, there's other –
00:30:34.340 And you're saying against the biggest rival.
00:30:35.760 The biggest rival.
00:30:36.400 The biggest rival.
00:30:37.420 But you want to go up against the biggest rival.
00:30:39.880 If I'm an Eagles fan, right, I want the Eagles to play the Redskins.
00:30:42.860 I'm going to play the Washington Commanders.
00:30:45.100 The commies for short, right?
00:30:46.320 The Commanders are the commies.
00:30:48.100 So, you know, it's ridiculous.
00:30:50.180 No, just put things the way they were.
00:30:52.000 Let's have a fair fight.
00:30:53.080 And we will beat you every time, RG3 or not, because we got Jalen Hurts.
00:30:57.820 All right?
00:30:58.200 We got Saquon.
00:30:58.980 We got the rest of it.
00:30:59.820 You go down.
00:31:00.500 You're going to go down.
00:31:01.280 The team's coming back to Capitol Hill.
00:31:02.680 It's going to go right back to RFK.
00:31:04.240 But now they have to get rid of the current one, right?
00:31:07.120 Yes, unfortunately.
00:31:07.780 Yeah, the current state is kind of – but it's still going to be RFK.
00:31:09.960 You're something else.
00:31:10.660 I'm sure.
00:31:11.400 You need to keep the name.
00:31:12.280 You need to keep the new RFK.
00:31:13.240 I would actually keep the stadium.
00:31:14.800 It's a –
00:31:15.220 No, it's an eyesore at this point.
00:31:17.560 It's right down.
00:31:18.260 Okay, a couple things.
00:31:19.480 Does – questions.
00:31:20.500 Does the ruling in the Supreme Court give us now the ability, no excuses, to go after
00:31:24.880 the deep state in big hunks and deconstruct?
00:31:27.220 It's a green light.
00:31:27.940 I mean, this is the green light for the deconstruction crew to go over there to the deep state, wherever
00:31:34.860 they are, wherever they are, offices, chapter and verse, just pulling all that root and step.
00:31:39.680 You're bitching and moaning because you're bitching – I get clips of – I get to play
00:31:43.240 clips of Jack Posobiec on Dana Bash on CNN, but we won't because you used the H word.
00:31:50.480 But you're bitching –
00:31:50.860 I used the biggest slur in all of MAGA.
00:31:53.720 Hillary, you're bitching and moaning and whining all the time.
00:31:56.980 Now you've got a criminal investigation on Brennan and Comey, and you're an IC guy, so you've got two of the worst.
00:32:03.440 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
00:32:04.680 The moaning, the crying, the ranting.
00:32:07.140 I mean, nobody in a war room ever does that.
00:32:09.520 What's the adjectives again?
00:32:10.940 What's the adjectives you've got on the wristband there?
00:32:13.060 Reckless and irresponsible.
00:32:14.740 Radical and dangerous.
00:32:16.300 The guy with the wristband.
00:32:17.660 Perfect.
00:32:17.920 No, look, because, Steve, there's a phrase that they use online, all right?
00:32:23.260 And they use it to refer to you, and they say, when in doubt, chimp out.
00:32:28.440 All right?
00:32:28.920 When in doubt, chimp out.
00:32:30.640 Always chimp.
00:32:31.500 Do you think this is real?
00:32:33.040 I think it's 100% real.
00:32:34.620 Do you think there's a grand jury that's been impaneled that's hearing this stuff?
00:32:37.840 I'm hearing things.
00:32:38.780 I'm hearing things, and I'll leave it at that.
00:32:41.440 And look, look, look.
00:32:42.420 When Mike Davis comes up there and says it's real, you could take that to the bank,
00:32:46.120 because Mike Davis has come up time and time again to tell us when stuff wasn't real,
00:32:49.940 has made us take our vitamins and eat our veggies, even when we don't want.
00:32:53.280 That guy's not.
00:32:53.900 And that guy's more plugged into this system than anybody in the world.
00:32:58.660 And so when he says it's real, it's real.
00:33:00.680 Now, I understand, Brandon.
00:33:01.940 Brandon, by the way, that's a slam-dunk case of perjury, okay?
00:33:05.220 Slam-dunk case of perjury, lying to Congress.
00:33:07.320 It was under, by the way, and there's multiple, right?
00:33:10.060 It's not just the dossier.
00:33:10.880 You can go back to when he said it.
00:33:12.840 But my guy said the statute of limits has run out, but Davis just clarified it,
00:33:16.320 which is my theory of the case.
00:33:17.760 As long as the conspiracy is going on.
00:33:19.520 As long as it's an ongoing conspiracy that it's not broken.
00:33:21.940 By the way, you could go ask Doug Mackey about that,
00:33:23.860 because that was the whole thing of his case was conspiracy.
00:33:27.300 Have they, they shouldn't prosecute.
00:33:29.580 They couldn't prove the conspiracy.
00:33:31.280 They should.
00:33:31.740 They've got to prosecute the prosecutors, and the judge ought to be impeached.
00:33:34.720 No evidence on Mackey.
00:33:35.940 No, not at all.
00:33:36.880 And so with Comey, you know, with Comey, I want to see,
00:33:39.120 I haven't seen the specific charge yet that we have to come down.
00:33:42.680 So there's serious, obviously, a number of times, though.
00:33:46.420 And by the way, I've, I identified something very early on
00:33:50.540 when your good friend Peter Baker in the New York Times
00:33:52.300 called me a conspiracy theorist for saying this,
00:33:54.340 that James Comey once said under oath early on in the Trump administration
00:33:58.660 that he never felt any pressure to shut down an investigation, all right?
00:34:02.940 And I remember this all the way back, 2017, and Peter Baker wrote me up with this.
00:34:07.200 Oh, so much crazy conspiracy theorist.
00:34:08.700 Wait a minute.
00:34:09.240 Wait.
00:34:09.520 Then he goes back later in May.
00:34:11.000 You know what he said?
00:34:11.760 He said, he said, I felt pressured to shut down the Russia investigation.
00:34:16.120 I said, well, wait a minute.
00:34:17.460 Here's your, here's your testimony from the first time.
00:34:20.660 And he said no pressure.
00:34:21.740 The second time he said pressure.
00:34:22.700 So which is it?
00:34:23.380 Let's go to Geneva.
00:34:24.420 We got Nor bin Laden and Joe Allen at the, what is it?
00:34:28.320 AI make happy.
00:34:29.280 It's like, we're going to feel better because the United Nations.
00:34:33.080 So Nor bin Laden, Jack and I have been waiting for this one all day.
00:34:36.180 What's your assessment of day two of the conference?
00:34:40.020 Great to be with you guys this evening, evening here, afternoon for you guys.
00:34:45.100 Day two was equally as interesting as yesterday.
00:34:47.760 And it's, it's a jam-packed schedule of big hitters, big names, but also just very key
00:34:57.200 topics that we mentioned yesterday when it comes to specifically disinformation and misinformation.
00:35:04.760 I mentioned the global risk report from the World Economic Forum that came out, that comes
00:35:10.480 out every January with misinformation and disinformation being the number one threat in the world, according
00:35:16.700 to all those globalist institutions.
00:35:19.280 In the background of this UN conference on AI, you have the UN's own global risks report,
00:35:26.380 which came out this week as well, their very first one, where again, misinformation and
00:35:31.800 disinformation is the number one vulnerability in the world, according to them.
00:35:36.840 And today I picked up at the Google booth, this brochure entitled Determining Trustworthiness
00:35:44.900 Through Context and Provenance.
00:35:47.800 And it's all about how in the age of AI, it's going to be absolutely critical for people to
00:35:53.840 know where the information is coming from.
00:35:56.220 And as I mentioned on the show yesterday, Steve, we're going to see an increasing clampdown on
00:36:02.280 our freedom of speech online.
00:36:06.180 And if you look further down the pipeline, I think what is coming is actually the end of
00:36:11.920 online anonymity.
00:36:13.740 This is what they want, right?
00:36:15.060 They want to tie in the digital ID, online verification and end online anonymity.
00:36:23.000 And you remember Nikki Haley, Nimrata had called for this actually when she was, I think, running
00:36:30.380 for president.
00:36:31.580 I mean, if that even was a thing back then with her failed campaign.
00:36:36.340 But you have quite heavy, I mean, big names in politics, in tech, in those globalist institutions
00:36:45.020 actually preparing this narrative, the dangers of AI, the dangers of deep fakes in order to
00:36:52.480 push this agenda through.
00:36:54.660 Well, so, and this is a question for both of you, but so earlier this morning, US time,
00:36:59.700 we saw the resignation of the head of X, the head of Twitter, and many people believe that
00:37:08.180 this is in relation to Grok and the flare up from Grok yesterday, posting Hitler quotes,
00:37:17.500 posting a series of things that really just kind of switching into a completely different
00:37:22.820 mode.
00:37:23.480 Well, tell them they're all powerful.
00:37:24.440 You can't do anything about it.
00:37:25.440 That's what's scary.
00:37:25.980 And, and, and, and, and, and, well, part of it was they weren't even able to turn it
00:37:29.960 off.
00:37:30.200 They had to put it into image only mode.
00:37:31.980 They had to take away text mode.
00:37:33.180 So it made it image only.
00:37:34.460 I have to ask though, at the conference, you know, has all of this massive international
00:37:39.920 news regarding Grok, has that been a topic of discussion?
00:37:43.260 Are they trying to keep it quiet?
00:37:45.340 You had major CEO resignation over it, or is it something they're trying to just kind of
00:37:49.940 brush under the rug?
00:37:51.080 Well, I, I'll, I'll say, Jack, uh, you know, you and I both remember Tay and Tay lives.
00:37:58.720 Oh yeah.
00:37:59.480 Tay lives.
00:38:00.920 Tay was reincarnated for the audience.
00:38:04.000 If you recall, back in 2016, 17, uh, Microsoft tried to create a chat bot, uh, trained on Twitter.
00:38:12.540 And it was, to say the least, uh, impolite in its observing of, uh, various topics regarding
00:38:21.840 Twitter, uh, Hitler or men and women or, uh, the races.
00:38:25.600 So, uh, what you saw with Grok is, I think, probably an attempt at breaking open the, the
00:38:33.560 guardrails and allowing the LLM to simply follow the statistical models of what it is trained
00:38:40.520 on, which in the case of Twitter, Musk opened up Twitter to free speech, which meant bringing
00:38:46.300 in a lot of people who speak, uh, to put it mildly, impolitely.
00:38:51.420 Hang on.
00:38:51.840 Hang on.
00:38:52.260 Hang on.
00:38:52.640 I hear all that.
00:38:53.360 I hear all that.
00:38:53.860 But it's the conference.
00:38:54.800 You guys, you're at the, with all the leaders in the world, the most public, the most public
00:39:00.600 of all the things.
00:39:01.680 And it's a, had a meltdown where the CEO, I think the CEO resigned for a couple of things.
00:39:05.960 Number one, what he's been saying about president Trump and other people, the political party,
00:39:10.920 he's out of control.
00:39:12.000 You know, the nanny left and they, they're not, they're not, she, she's afraid of liability.
00:39:15.760 They haven't said anything.
00:39:16.540 But the Grok thing is, the Grok thing is, is shocking in the fact they pitch you on, oh,
00:39:21.960 it's just a path to artificial general intelligence.
00:39:24.560 This thing is demonic.
00:39:25.720 If you look at it, it looks like a demon and you can't stop it.
00:39:28.640 And it's also kind of saying it's all powerful.
00:39:30.760 That's the other thing.
00:39:31.280 It's in your face.
00:39:32.040 Like you can't do anything about it.
00:39:33.860 So are they in Geneva, are they addressing this issue at all?
00:39:37.320 This thing is so dangerous and you have it in the hands of kids, sir?
00:39:40.660 A thousand percent they're addressing it.
00:39:42.080 But the way that they're addressing it is to say that these are the dangers of artificial
00:39:46.100 intelligence.
00:39:46.740 They're upfront about all of that.
00:39:48.920 They're not saying that artificial intelligence is going to lead to utopia.
00:39:52.820 They're mostly pointing out, even if it's called AI for good, they're pointing out a lot
00:39:57.980 of the dangers of AI.
00:39:59.060 AI is going to be racist.
00:40:00.220 AI is going to be sexist.
00:40:01.560 AI is going to be homophobic.
00:40:02.760 AI is going to create massive economic divides.
00:40:06.800 And so what they are proposing, and when I say they, it's a broad spectrum of opinions.
00:40:12.340 But the general thrust is that if we put in place the global standards, perhaps even global
00:40:20.800 treaties, perhaps even binding legislation across borders, then we'll be able to protect
00:40:26.600 people from hearing racist posts from Grok or we'll be able to protect people from deep
00:40:32.520 fakes generated by Google image generation.
00:40:35.680 So they talk continuously about the dangers, as I think they should, but their solutions
00:40:41.820 are entirely global and governmental.
00:40:43.820 So nor, nor, I, you know, I feel shouldn't I feel comfortable being put to bed about what
00:40:49.760 they're telling me in Geneva, that they're going to take care of all these problems with
00:40:52.900 the evilness and demonic nature of AI, ma'am?
00:40:56.460 Why are you guys looking at it with such a jaundiced eye and being so mean?
00:41:01.020 No, listen, to bounce off of Joe's point, which was absolutely correct.
00:41:07.140 They are focusing on this, quote, AI divide.
00:41:12.560 And in perfect UN parlance and in UN strategy and narrative building, they are using the
00:41:19.920 excuse, you know, of these poor nations or developing nations not having access to all
00:41:25.120 of this infrastructure and that the digital divide is going to be further exasperated,
00:41:30.600 heightened, and now it's turning into this AI divide and all those countries are going
00:41:37.220 to be left behind.
00:41:38.280 So it's always the same playbook about wanting to help the poorer nations when, in fact, it's
00:41:43.800 just a way to deploy more and more of this technology in order to connect the entire world and better
00:41:49.680 track, better map, better surveil the entire world.
00:41:53.740 So they're, they're focusing or highlighting all of these issues, but the objective and
00:42:00.160 the goals in addressing those issues are very much further centralization.
00:42:06.600 I see it.
00:42:07.440 I see what they're saying.
00:42:08.680 That's why we need more AI and more power because of the issues.
00:42:13.380 You see the play here?
00:42:14.260 The same, this is Zuckerberg, the same thing.
00:42:16.760 We're going to go to break.
00:42:17.780 Hang on.
00:42:18.080 The reason we had to, we had to take Joe Allen from out, he was in the wilds of Wyoming
00:42:23.020 going to these AI conferences up in Montana.
00:42:25.120 We had to take him and put him on a plane to get to Geneva to assist and work with Noor
00:42:31.520 because this conference is so big because my understanding is the last time we sent you
00:42:35.880 to Switzerland, you were put under arrest.
00:42:38.000 Can you even get back in the country?
00:42:39.700 I may have open charges in Switzerland.
00:42:42.320 Noor's sitting there freezing in the snow doing a report and you're like in a cafe and you're
00:42:49.320 getting rounded up by the police.
00:42:51.020 No, first of all, I'm going to have Interpol coming in on me, just guilt by association.
00:42:55.460 Inside the cafe.
00:42:56.640 No, then they pull the MP5s up.
00:42:59.020 Tanya's on the other side with my brother.
00:43:00.700 Why?
00:43:00.880 Because she wanted to go see Liev Schreiber.
00:43:02.480 And I, and I, my brother was out looking for Malcolm Nance.
00:43:06.960 I sent him on a mission to try to find Malcolm Nance with Zelensky because Zelensky was with
00:43:11.400 Jonathan Swan at the thing.
00:43:13.640 And then I'm getting arrested.
00:43:15.000 They say, what's going on?
00:43:16.020 I think Jack's in trouble.
00:43:17.480 We got to go.
00:43:18.540 Are you allowed back in the country?
00:43:21.040 That is, that is indeterminate.
00:43:22.860 I think.
00:43:23.180 Yeah, exactly.
00:43:23.740 That's what we have.
00:43:24.340 Joe out there.
00:43:24.820 Okay.
00:43:24.960 We're taking a short commercial break.
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00:45:07.540 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:45:09.540 Band.
00:45:11.220 We're going to get to—they're trying to run Bridge Colby out of the Defense Department.
00:45:14.820 We're going to defend that.
00:45:15.600 Posa's going to be with me in a minute.
00:45:16.980 Noor bin Laden, give me a couple of minutes on your summary of where we stand on day two,
00:45:20.380 ma'am.
00:45:20.540 Day two, as I mentioned, was, again, a lot about all of this misinformation and disinformation
00:45:28.600 and how to tackle the—how would you say the control of information online.
00:45:36.460 There was a lot of talk about education as well and AI education in particular with lots
00:45:41.500 of countries like Mongolia, Estonia continuing on the digitization path and introducing AI
00:45:48.160 classes in middle schools and high schools.
00:45:52.300 So that was a big focus today, the education, and obviously hand-in-hand with GovTech.
00:45:57.980 I've done a lot of research on that and wrote an article on GovTech specifically two years
00:46:02.780 ago.
00:46:03.700 That was a central theme and is a central theme this week of how all public services are being
00:46:10.880 completely digitized thanks to AI.
00:46:13.200 Google as well had several brochures about that and how to assist governments worldwide
00:46:20.760 into digitizing with AI.
00:46:23.280 Let's break up Google.
00:46:24.960 We just say Gail Slater, start the show.
00:46:26.780 Noor, social media.
00:46:29.660 Where do folks go to follow you and get your writings, ma'am?
00:46:33.100 norbinladdin.substack.com, norbinladdin on xTwitter.
00:46:37.960 And for more information about the digitization of our society, you can also head to this website
00:46:45.400 entitled antimatters.world.
00:46:48.700 And Joe, I believe, is wearing a hoodie.
00:46:52.780 So Joe, you can show us as the best model for what we've been working on, antimatters.world.
00:47:01.040 Antimatters, he's got merch.
00:47:02.980 Joe, what do you got for us?
00:47:04.120 So, Steve, Noor is absolutely right about the basically assumption that AI is the future
00:47:12.940 of everything, education, medicine, the military, government, corporate life, everything.
00:47:20.020 The tension is between those who say that that means that we're doomed and those who say that
00:47:27.660 AI will be for good, that we will be able to harness this and create more intelligent humans,
00:47:33.480 healthier humans.
00:47:34.800 We heard from David Sinclair of Harvard that maybe we'll even use AI to reverse aging by
00:47:41.620 way of epigenetics.
00:47:43.000 So there is that tension there, though.
00:47:45.100 There are the people here, Jeffrey Hinton, Roman Jampalski, who say that, no, maybe this
00:47:52.260 is going to be a massive nightmare.
00:47:54.460 I think when the audience sees some of the interviews we've been conducting, especially
00:47:58.600 with the robots and especially with the cyborgs, they'll get a little taste of the future that
00:48:03.820 they're talking about, both the doom and the promise.
00:48:08.120 Tomorrow, when we get to Tampa for the Charlie Kirk, this major student action summit, we're
00:48:14.780 going to play two of the major interviews by Joe.
00:48:18.500 Joe, where do they go on social media to get you, sir?
00:48:20.140 At J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z and JoeBot.X-Y-Z.
00:48:26.580 And I think they'll really look forward to Noor's relationship with a robot now, Nadine.
00:48:33.280 But I'll leave it at that.
00:48:34.540 I don't want to throw shade on Noor.
00:48:36.080 Noor, I better not be snaked by a robot.
00:48:39.100 I would really be upset.
00:48:40.020 Regenerative Robotics.
00:48:41.100 Noor Bin Laden.
00:48:41.920 Joe Allen.
00:48:42.440 Thank you, guys.
00:48:43.140 From Geneva.
00:48:44.840 Late night.
00:48:45.220 Thank you very much, Steve.
00:48:46.120 Bridge Colby.
00:48:47.300 They're coming for Bridge Colby.
00:48:48.720 And they're coming for Bridge Colby because the Israel First crowd, plus he wants to keep
00:48:52.440 us out of one.
00:48:52.900 Here's what's going on.
00:48:53.820 I think they're trying to do a bank shot right now.
00:48:56.300 So if you go and watch MSNBC right now, what are they doing?
00:48:58.840 It's the two-minute tape.
00:48:59.700 But they're not focused on Bridge.
00:49:00.800 They're focused on Pete.
00:49:02.160 So they're focusing on Pete.
00:49:03.660 They say Pete went rogue.
00:49:05.840 They're going to say Pete Hegseth went rogue.
00:49:08.180 They're saying it was Hegseth who made this decision.
00:49:10.080 It's about stopping the shipment of Patriot missile batteries and others to Ukraine.
00:49:13.340 Well, and what it really is, though, is an audit of what's going on and an assessment
00:49:18.720 of what our military stockpiles are to defend places, because we've committed, right?
00:49:23.820 We've committed to the defense, and we talk about it on Worm all time, to the defense of
00:49:27.980 the Pacific, the defense of the Red Sea, the defense of all of our bases in the Middle
00:49:32.280 East, which required Patriot missiles during that response from Iran on Qatar and Al-Adid
00:49:37.760 and all of these other areas.
00:49:39.680 But we've still got to commit to the defense of that little place called the American homeland.
00:49:43.940 And the Patriot missile batteries are currently very low because we've been sending them to
00:49:48.040 Israel.
00:49:48.500 We've been sending them to Ukraine.
00:49:49.480 We've been sending them to all this.
00:49:49.940 That's why we warned everyone, don't do this.
00:49:53.240 The reason they hate Bridge is that Bridge is the pivot to Asia guy.
00:49:57.120 He wants to not focus on the Middle East and wars in the Middle East and get out of the
00:50:00.680 wars in the Middle East.
00:50:01.400 And he wants to get out of the Ukraine.
00:50:02.720 And tomorrow at 6 o'clock, the Taiwan ambassador will be in the war room, and I will be interviewing
00:50:10.780 him.
00:50:11.220 So stick around for 6 o'clock tomorrow.
00:50:12.820 Big special with...
00:50:13.680 Well, ambassador could only come from another nation, right, Steve?
00:50:17.460 Well, in the war room, we call him an ambassador because it is a nation.
00:50:21.780 It's not a province.
00:50:23.060 How big a deal?
00:50:24.440 Gordon Chang's got a...
00:50:25.800 Real quickly, Gordon Chang's got a piece up saying she's losing control of the military.
00:50:29.780 You buy that?
00:50:31.820 We'll see, Steve.
00:50:33.380 Been rumored for many years.
00:50:35.160 Xi Jinping's downfall has been rumored since the day that he took office in 2012.
00:50:39.980 And it's something where...
00:50:41.060 Look, has there been a shakeup within the PLA generals?
00:50:44.720 Yes.
00:50:45.200 But the question is, it's too hard to see.
00:50:47.400 But the...
00:50:47.720 And the thing that I've been looking for, Steve, if you're going to see an actual reduction
00:50:52.740 in the power of Xi Jinping, and I go and look at Chinese media, all right, you would
00:50:56.560 see the emergence, number one, of criticism of his policies, which you have not seen.
00:51:01.400 Very first episode of War Room, that's exactly what I talked about.
00:51:04.300 The mandate of heaven.
00:51:04.880 The mandate of heaven, the dynastic cycle of history.
00:51:07.340 And number two, where is the heir?
00:51:09.580 There's no heir apparent that's been identified in any way.
00:51:12.980 So this idea that, oh, there's a coup and the polyp bro is going to reassert control,
00:51:16.560 it's enticing to want to think about that, but I'm just not seeing it.
00:51:22.520 Not quite yet.
00:51:23.940 But he just did the dual employment.
00:51:26.180 He did the dual employment.
00:51:26.920 Give me the social media.
00:51:29.580 At Jack Prosopic, human events daily.
00:51:31.900 And it's crazy.
00:51:32.760 And Jack was all over CNN today using the H word, playing the Redskins.
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00:52:41.640 Gail Slater.
00:52:42.320 The audience wants to get more Gail Slater back here, head of antitrust over DOJ.
00:52:46.980 I'm going to stick around for the 6 o'clock hour.
00:52:49.060 We've got Liz Jorah, Ben Harnwell, Cannon 212, John Henry Weston out at LifeSite News.
00:52:57.440 We're going to make a big deal about that because it is a big deal to be made about it.
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