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Bannon's War Room
- July 14, 2025
Episode 4630: Trump Meets With Rutte On Defense For Ukraine
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
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medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
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the people have had a belly full of it I know you don't like hearing that I know you try to
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do everything the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and
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where do people like that go to share the big line mega media I wish in my soul I wish that any
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of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that
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answer is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band
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monday 14 july year of our lord 2025 um war and the rumor of wars are throughout the imperial capital
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the uh secretary general of nato is uh in washington and he will be meeting this morning supposedly with
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the president united states the commander in chief um and I think that thing's been bumped back at
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least an hour tentatively was scheduled I think to come and start at least show up at 10 maybe start
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11 so we're gonna um we're gonna figure all this out we've got a crew there uh if anything happens
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live we'll jump right into it uh ben harnwell uh oh excuse me I got dan call it dan uh what make us
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smart you're gonna punch out but make us smart and what we should be thinking about this nato meeting
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with the president uh contextualize it for us and uh and and what do you see coming out of it
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so details really matter here and I I think we need to be very hesitant about initial reports about
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what is agreed to so to get specific is are the europeans just paying for arms we already agreed
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to deliver something I mentioned earlier the second thing is are the europeans going to send patriots
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from their stocks to ukraine which they've been they've done a little bit but they've been hesitant to
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give more because they want to make uncle sam uncle sucker and get us to send their stuff is
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president trump going to be able to get them to send their stuff first and then we backfill it for
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the normal production process or are we going to send our stuff to the europeans immediately to backfill
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their stocks and that creates readiness issues across the board and the final thing I would just say
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is is we got it more long term is this defense increased defense spending in europe actually
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going to happen there is a very very long history of people like the germans the french the british
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making these promises and then when they see the united states doubling down in europe they eventually
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don't fall through so I think this is going to be a key thing is this additional defense spending
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actually going to lead to not just burden sharing but burden shifting in the long term and that's
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what we need to achieve and I'll just say in closing here is that to incentivize that burden shift we have
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to pull back because if we don't then the europeans aren't going to feel like that that they actually
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have to fall through so that's essential is that president trump needs to make sure these these promises
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are are actually kept but the one if you look at history the one way he's yeah the one yeah
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i agree dan the one way he's doing that i think he's saying you're paying for these we're not giving
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these to the ukrainian you are going to be the middleman you're going to buy the weapons so this
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is going to go in your account you you're talking about five percent i agree with you and i think
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president trump agrees with you he understands that they're wiley and in root ruta is a shifty guy or a
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slick guy should say not shifty a slick guy and that's why it's even on the offensive weapons
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they're buying them and they're giving them to ukraine correct that's the currently the deal that
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at least our our limited knowledge is what's on the table yes that's what president trump has said
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that has been discussed in the past um it's just the question the big the most important detail i think
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is how are are the europeans going to backfill their stocks uh and how we're going to do that
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is it going to be through the regular production process which could take years to backfill their
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stocks or are we going to send them something from our own stocks right away and that latter scenario
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i think is where you run into trouble because you you make the readiness issues you've talked about a
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lot a lot worse specifically in in the indo-pacific no against the ccp which is keep the main thing the
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main thing is captain finnell always reminds me it's like a zen master every day he's hit me with a stick
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if i uh if i if i get if i lose my if i lose my concentration of focus what she's supposed to do
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berkowitz and these other guys they're great uh because the ccp is the threat that's why we can't
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get sucked into uh this side event and this is a side event uh caldwell where do people get you
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particularly on social media i'm on x at at dan d caldwell uh that's the best place to find uh find
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my work thank you brother appreciate you thanks for having me on take out your phone thank you sir
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take out your phone and text bannon b-a-n-n-o-n at 9-8-9-8-9-8 get the free guide which is also
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the ultimate guide to investing in gold and precious metals in the age of trump i would only
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add to that this uh this brochure is fantastic i would just add to that the increased turbulence
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of a major conflict on the eurasian landmass which looks like it's upon us it's already started it's
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two years almost three years old right or two and a half years old uh and it is um it's not it's not
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it's not winding down i would argue maybe winding up we're gonna go to the white house soon as
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something happens john solomon up yet i'm looking at my producer we're trying to get john solomon up
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uh because we're not this is not wag the dog trust me president trump this is deeper than that so it's
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not a wag the dog moment uh and we are going to discuss what's going on in the deep state because
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the deep state's hands the dark hand of the deep state is behind these decisions folks uh ben hornwell
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uh the new york times kind of exposes this of and it's a brilliant piece also ben i think you got
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some other comments in ukraine so before we shift off ukraine give me your give me your closing
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thoughts from your perch in the internal city yeah look so the axial spin on this on this uh pre-announced
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deal uh and i flag the flag that up that i that it was you know this kind of announcement one would
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expect to come out in the joint statement after the meeting between potus and the nato secretary
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general mark reuter it's been announced it's been pre-announced um now you can all have
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interpretations as to why that is um but it seemed to me steve that president trump was very much
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wanting to take ownership of this and he didn't want it to make it look he didn't want it to appear
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like nato had bounced him into this he wanted to be seen leading this initiative but the interesting
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thing in this article in the word aggressive there in that headline you could see actually comes from
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lindsey graham which should tell you all you need to know approvingly comes from lindsey graham but
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the interesting thing about that article is that it's not just about the patriot missiles which had
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been announced last week well several times over over the last few weeks but most lately last week as a
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defensive measure also in this package president trump is offering according to axios uh offensive um
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weapons um and i say that i flagged that up i know that you hit that earlier with dan on the show
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uh i flagged that up because a lot of the the feedback i had on the the on getter was saying
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harnwell don't be a panicker and you're panicking over nothing president trump is just maneuvering here
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to give zelensky some sort of greater defensive um capability this would definitely you know for
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those who are still living that narrative this would very much go beyond that um let's see can i pivot now
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to this article that came out i think on saturday i i put it out on ghetto on saturday um from the new
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york times how netanyahu prolonged the war and just hang on for us ben ben ben ben just hang on for
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one second just put a pin and we're gonna get right to that but i got john solomon up so john we broke uh
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with you broke on our show on friday the extended version uh this situation about the fbi looking at
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going after the deep state on a a host of things going back to the beginning a crossfire hurricane
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before trump was president going into the nullification project and the russia hoax uh
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including the perfect uh the impeachment and the perfect phone call uh doing maybe potentially the
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2020 uh election uh the j6 a whole raft of things you've got additional reporting
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uh can you get us up to speed on this and are we close how much effort did fbi have to put into
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this investigation before we actually announce a special counsel sir yeah listen i think there's
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enough evidence already there that they could name a special counsel as early this week it's really just
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up to pam bondy this is an opportunity for her to change the subject from epstein to something that
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is perhaps more consequential to the american people long term uh and they can clean up epstein with
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someone else perhaps secondly um their evidence is all laying out in public view except for for two
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highly classified pieces of intelligence one is in the inspector general report
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on hillary clinton's email that reveals that the united states intelligence community got new evidence
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of possible criminality in the hillary clinton email scandal but did not pursue it just before james
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comey cleared her of all criminal wrongdoing that has stayed secret for eight years chuck grassley the
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senate judiciary community chairman has been relentlessly pursuing him he has president trump's
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ear i think that's going to get declassified in the next few days that will show that there was reason
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to pursue hillary clinton not claire her and not pursue donald trump they should have not ever
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investigated him for russia collusion the second piece of classified evidence that could be
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released is uh referred to by john durham as the clinton plan intelligence it's an intercept
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five days before the fbi opened up on uh crossfire hurricane that hillary clinton was about to concoct a
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russian uh scandal and try to pretend that vladimir putin was helping donald trump win the election
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that means that the cia the fbi and president obama himself personally was aware that what hillary
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clinton was doing was a ruse a political dirty trick and still james comey's fbi opened up on the
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information if those two pieces of evidence get declassified so grand jurors can see it
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pam bondi names a special prosecutor we could be rolling by the end of this week
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end of this week um part of this because you had durham you had all this you reported extensively
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part of this is not going to be just what they tried to do to president trump but isn't a big part
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of this also going to be the cover-up because you you had durham you had people but it looks like
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obviously now information was specifically buried uh either people lied purged themselves or buried
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information because this stuff should have come out i mean this is the whole purpose of durham and
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these other things this should have come out and even these house investigations this should have
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come out years ago correct yeah listen look at the china interference in the 2020 election that
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allegation that was buried until just a few weeks ago remember cash patel said when he got in there
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he found this room full of documents that were never released to congress mostly on russiagate uh
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that is a whole new tranche so the cover-up as it often is can be a big part of the scandal and it
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could be a part of the ongoing conspiracy as the fbi looks at this they're looking at it as one grand
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conspiracy that a constant pattern of clearing democrats of criminal wrongdoing in the face of
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hey john john john we got to go to the live shot and then go to the live shot in the in the oval
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let's go and cut markets the head of nato mark ruta secretary general of nato highly respected by
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everybody that knows him but in particular the european countries they have great reliance
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and he's done a fantastic job and we had a tremendous meeting i guess it's about a month now
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a month ago and i think mark will tell you that it was really perhaps more important the the date of
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november 5th that was the election day maybe that was the most important because we've made
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tremendous progress together and one of the reasons that you're here today is to hear that we are very
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unhappy i am with russia but we'll discuss that maybe a different day but we're very very unhappy
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with them and we're going to be doing very severe tariffs if we don't have a deal in 50 days
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tariffs at about 100 percent you'd call them secondary tariffs you know what that means
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but today we're going to talk about something else and as you know we've spent 350 billion dollars
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approximately on this war with russia and ukraine i would like to see it end it wasn't my war it
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was biden's war it's not my war i'm trying to get you out of it and we want to see it end and i'm
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disappointed in president putin because i thought we would have had a deal two months ago but it doesn't
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seem to get there so based on that we're going to be doing secondary tariffs if we don't have a deal
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in 50 days it's very simple and they'll be at 100 percent and that's the way it is that can be more
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simple it's just the way it is i hope we don't have to do it but regardless we are going to be
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we make the greatest military equipment in the world whether it's missiles you saw that
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recently in a round the way those planes flew in they had every single 14 bombs hit every target
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then you had the helicopter shoot a total of 30 bombs 30 missiles and they hit every single mark
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is that right every single peter every single target and it was uh i guess on a scale of zero to 10 they
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say it was about a 15 that's how successful it was that's how lethal it was a word they like to use
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nowadays but it was it was an amazing uh well-organized attack that people in this country
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wanted to do for 24 years you know when we had the pilots in last week they were saying sir we've been
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practicing this for 24 years meaning people not them but other people that are a little older now
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but they too and uh you were the one that let us do it but we've uh been practicing it three to four
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times a year for 22 24 years because they always knew that it stopped iran from doing what they
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were doing which is uh trying to come up with a nuclear weapon a nuclear bomb and we did it very
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successfully and we make the best uh equipment the best missiles the best of everything uh the european
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nations know that and we've made a deal today and i'm going to have mark speak about it but
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we've made a deal today where we are going to be sending them weapons and they're going to be
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paying for them we the united states will not be having any payment made uh we're not buying it
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but we will manufacture it and they're going to be paying for it uh our last meeting of a month ago
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was very successful in that they agreed to five percent which is more than a trillion dollars a year so
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they have a lot of money and they these are wealthy nations they have a lot of money and they want to do it
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they feel very strongly about it and we feel strongly about it too but we're in for a lot of money and
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we just we don't want to do anymore and we can't but we make the best and we're going to be sending
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the best to nato and in some cases to maybe uh at mark's suggestion if we go to germany where
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they're going to send early on missiles and they'll be replaced and nato is going to take care of it's going
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to be coordinated by uh nato and they're going to work very much with matt whitaker who's right here
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who's a great ambassador and matt's going to be coordinate you better do a good job matt i will
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but matt's going to coordinate he's a very talented guy he's going to coordinate everything
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so in a nutshell uh we're going to make top of the line weapons and they'll be sent to nato
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nato may choose to have certain of them sent to other countries where we can get a little
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additional speed where the country will release something and be it'll be mostly in the form of
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a replacement and uh i'd like to have mark and again just a highly respected pretty young guy
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pretty young guy for having had the career that he's had because he had an amazing career
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before going to nato so uh and we spent a lot of time together over the last couple of months
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and if you could say a few words absolutely no no mr president dear donald this is really big
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this is really big you called me on thursday that you have taken a decision uh and a decision is that
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you want to bring what it needs to have to maintain to be able to defend itself against russia but you
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do want europeans to pay for it which is totally logical um and this is building on the tremendous
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success of the nato summit uh the five percent but also the decision to keep ukraine strong
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and a decision to increase our defense industrial production so based on that this is that was europe
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stepping up this is again europeans uh stepping up so i've been in contact with many countries i can
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tell you that this moment germany massively but also finland and denmark and sweden and norway we
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have kingdom and netherlands canada they all want to be part of this and this is only the first
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wave there will be more so what we will do is work through the nato systems to make sure that we
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know what ukrainians need so if you can make packages of course in a way we discussed it this
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morning with pete hexat at the pentagon in a way that of course the u.s will keep on its stockpiles
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necessary to defend this country that's absolutely clear but it will mean that ukraine can get its hands
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on really massive numbers of military equipment uh both for air defense but also missiles ammunition
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etc etc so if i was vladimir putin today and hear you speaking about what you were planning to do in 50
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days and this announcement uh i would reconsider whether i should not take negotiations uh about
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ukraine more seriously than i was doing at the moment if i was vladimir putin but when i'm ukraine i think
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this is really great news for that so i really want to thank you for that but it means european
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is paying for it and again i mentioned all these countries uh we will deal with that and exactly
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as you said it might also mean that countries will move equipment fast into ukraine and then the u.s
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later backfilling it uh because uh speed is of the essence here so really thank you this is important
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you did a great job that's a really great job uh we've been very successful in settling wars you
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have india pakistan you have rwanda and the congo that was going on for 30 years india by the way
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and pakistan would have been a nuclear war within another week the way that was going that was going
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very badly and we did that through trade i said we're not going to talk to you about trade unless
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you get this thing settled and they did and they were both great great leaders
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and they were great but uh rwanda and the congo that was going on for 30 years
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and at least 7 million people killed and killed with a lot of pretty rough weapons like machetes
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heads chopped off uh going on for many years you couldn't even get near the countries nobody wanted
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to get near it so frightening and we got that one solved serbia kosovo got that solved
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that was going to be one that was going to happen and again that was something i use i use straight
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for a lot of things but it's great for settling wars uh that was really very important we're working
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marco is working very hard with everybody here on the strip the gaza strip i call it the gaza strip
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one of the worst real estate deals ever made they gave up the oceanfront property one of the worst deals
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ever made but it was supposed to bring peace and it didn't bring peace it brought the opposite but
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we're doing pretty well on gaza steve whitkoff is here and i think we could have something fairly soon
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to talk about and we solved another one one that we just seem to have armenia and azar
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baijan it looks like that's going to come to a conclusion successful conclusion uh we worked on
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egypt with our next door neighbor who uh it's a good neighbor they're friends of mine but they
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happened to build a dam which closed up water going into a thing called the nile i think if i'm egypt
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i want to have water in the nile and we're working on that one problem but it's going to get solved
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they built one of the biggest dams in the world a little bit outside of egypt you know about that
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you've been hearing about that one i think the united states funded the dam i don't know why they
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didn't solve the problem before they built the dam but it's nice when the nile river has water
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they you know it's a very important source of income in life it's the life of egypt and to take
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that away is pretty incredible but we uh think we're going to have that solved very quickly so we do good
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the only one we haven't been able to get to yet is russia i'm not happy and i will tell you that
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ukraine wants to do something again it's a war that should have never started if i were president
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it never would have happened i used to speak to president putin about it a lot it was the apple
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of his eye but once i saw what was going on i said you know they're going to have a war here
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i was outside election was rigged and i was outside looking in and i said you know that thing's
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going to be a war couldn't believe it because what biden said was the exact opposite of what
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should have been said and it started and it's a real mess we're losing i guess they're losing five
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or six thousand people there's actually now more i used to i was saying five thousand there's actually
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more now mostly soldiers but a lot of people in cities and towns that are getting blown up to
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it's a horrible war and it should be stopped and so if it's not done if we don't have an agreement
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in 50 days that's what we're doing secondary uh tariffs and they're biting and i hope we don't
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get to the point where we do but i've been hearing so much talk it's all talk it's all talk and then
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missiles go into kiev and kill 60 people uh it's uh it's gotta stop it's gotta stop but uh the purpose
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of this is to say that uh there's a very big deal we've made this is billions of dollars worth of
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military equipment is going to be purchased from the united states going to nato etc
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and uh that's going to be quickly distributed to uh the battlefield uh ukraine will take it up and
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you know say what you want about ukraine uh when the war started they had no chance and
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they still would have had no chance if the equipment they they had the best equipment because we do make
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the best planes and missiles and we make the best military equipment in the world world by far
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we have new things coming out that are beyond belief and i'm very excited about the golden dome it's
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going to give us very strong protection we're we've already started that but but uh but they had
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courage because somebody has to use that equipment and they fought with tremendous courage and they
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continue to fight with tremendous courage but uh they don't have uh they're losing on equipment
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and russia's really taken a very positive very very uh strong i mean what they've done the last
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couple of weeks without military reasons that's what they're doing it's a hundred drones a day
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missiles uh bombing cities this is not because of military uh goals it is just creating panic
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uh keeping people out of their sleeves hitting towns it's really terrible and it is meaning a lot
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of people lose their lives but also the infrastructure whole cities being well they're wiping out the
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electric it's going to take years to rebuild it that's going to be the next problem because
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but that's going to take a long time cities many of the cities are knocked down to the to the ground
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many of the people have left but many stayed i don't know they they actually stay most have stayed
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actually it's incredible that they stay and knowing that a missile could be hitting your apartment
00:25:19.940
house and your apartment house that you're sitting in could collapse on top of you and they do very
00:25:25.640
heavy construction they don't use rebar they do very thick concrete constructionists and those are
00:25:30.400
heavy buildings big buildings and heavy buildings and they collapse uh like like they're made out of
00:25:36.560
paper it's unbelievable to see this happening with people so many people being killed so
00:25:40.840
we think we're going to make progress and we hope we're going to make progress in the meantime we're
00:25:46.000
going to get you good service on what you need and then we really became friendly with nato this last
00:25:51.440
meeting you know we went from two percent to five percent which everyone said was not even a
00:25:56.480
possibility they weren't paying two percent many of them were paying much less than two percent but
00:26:00.620
even those since you became president all committed to the two percent before the summit and now
00:26:04.920
collectively we committed to the five percent that's right they did they've been uh very good and
00:26:09.200
and i think i made a lot of friends over there we had a couple of days of very intensive talks
00:26:13.980
and they're great people they're leaders of countries leaders of countries uh many of them
00:26:19.300
great countries some of them smaller countries but for the most part that's a very solid strong
00:26:24.840
countries and uh very successful some of them are among the most successful countries in the world
00:26:30.940
so that's the story we hope that's going to have an impact on vladimir putin and we hope it's
00:26:38.460
going to have an impact impact on ukraine also we want to make sure that ukraine does what they
00:26:43.740
have to do all of a sudden they have they may feel emboldened or maybe they don't want you know
00:26:48.040
this is a very difficult situation ukraine wants a peace deal i think so and they will stay committed
00:26:54.640
to that there's no doubt they want it but the russians have to be they have to continue to want
00:26:58.520
it though yeah i agree we will you and i will make sure of that all of a sudden they get no
00:27:02.540
you and i will make sure we'll we'll make sure i feel confident that they will
00:27:06.020
do what has to be done plus we have certain parameters that both sides know
00:27:10.160
and we already know what what should be done so i think that's going to be uh it's going to be
00:27:16.420
very strong we want everlasting peace uh any questions for us yes thank you mr president what was the tipping
00:27:22.640
point for you in making this decision was it a conversation with president putin was it a piece of
00:27:26.860
intelligence and why are you giving 50 more days i think well i think it's a very short period of
00:27:32.200
time i think don't forget i've just really been involved in this but not very long and uh and it
00:27:38.260
wasn't initial focus this is again this is a biden war this is a democrat war not a republican or trump
00:27:44.180
war this is a war that would have never happened it shouldn't have happened a lot of people being
00:27:49.000
killed when the uh when the final numbers come in you're going to see a lot more people are being
00:27:54.660
killed in this war than than you think than you've been writing about it's a very deadly war very
00:28:00.120
they're all bad but this is a very deadly war very the numbers are going to be far greater when an
00:28:05.260
apartment house comes down and they say two people were slightly injured no many people were killed
00:28:11.500
and those numbers will be at some point accurately reported so far they're not it's a deadly war
00:28:17.360
uh i think that uh you're just going to see i think you're going to see strong movement i hope so
00:28:23.540
i hope so you know the uh secondary tariffs are very very powerful what about the tariffs that
00:28:30.920
the republicans in the house and the senate have ready those are 500 percent why are you doing 100
00:28:36.140
well the republicans are moving very strongly in the senate giving us total control of it but
00:28:42.940
uh i'm not sure we need it but it's certainly good that they're doing it and lindsay graham's
00:28:49.660
working hard the whole region all of them they're all working hard and and they're in coordination
00:28:54.940
with mike johnson uh speaker in the house and i think they are they've actually crafted a pretty good
00:29:02.540
piece of legislation it's probably going to pass very easily and that includes democrats
00:29:07.820
and there's some little tweaks but uh i don't want to say i don't need it because i don't want
00:29:13.560
them to waste their time it could be very useful we'll have to see but we can do uh we can do
00:29:18.400
secondary we're probably talking about 100 or something like that we can do secondary we can
00:29:24.560
do secondary tariffs without the senate without the house but what they're crafting also could be
00:29:31.640
very good so are you suggesting then that the the congress should move forward with those
00:29:35.960
sanctions the 500 and that your 100 would be a separate additional package yeah i mean the 500
00:29:42.120
is you know sort of meaningless after a while because at a certain point it doesn't matter it's
00:29:47.280
not going to be you know it's 100 100 is going to serve the same function but um yeah i have it at
00:29:54.300
100 they may have it i don't know what they're going to end up with they may have it at 102 they may
00:29:59.040
have it at 500 but they're doing some good work in the house and i think in the house and the senate
00:30:04.580
and as you know they're coordinated and they can have it done quickly they said they'll have it as
00:30:10.720
quickly as i need it so we'll see we're talking to him in fact john thune's coming over later on to
00:30:15.840
talk yeah he's gonna he's gonna come over thank you mr president is it your view that vladimir putin
00:30:22.060
misguided miss miss uh misguided miss um did not clarify did not clarify his intention to a peace
00:30:35.380
deal and what what happens now in the next phase is there we're gonna have to go for a period of time
00:30:42.160
maybe you'll start negotiating and i think we felt i felt i don't know about you mark but i felt that we
00:30:48.960
had a deal about four times and here we are still talking about and he didn't send serious people to
00:30:56.140
the negotiation so i remember that you were able with uh marco rubio and with steve vitkoff to get
00:31:02.500
these talks going in istanbul i remember i was myself in turkey for nature business in may
00:31:08.020
and we put really good pressure on the ukrainians to send a senior team into istanbul and they did
00:31:14.100
but then the russians came up with this historian explaining history of russia since 1250
00:31:20.780
we thought and i thought we should have had a deal done a long time ago but it just keeps going on and
00:31:30.000
on and on and every night people are dying a lot of people a lot of russian soldiers are dying by the
00:31:36.220
way and a lot of ukrainian soldiers too but a lot of russian soldiers 100 000 russian soldiers since
00:31:42.620
first of january since january 100 000 russian soldiers dead since january so if anybody in
00:31:48.860
moscow is listening to this again 100 000 dead russians in january this is what president putin is
00:31:55.380
doing at the moment yeah please will these be patriot missiles specifically or patriot batteries that
00:32:02.260
you're planning and when you when you're everything it's patriots it's all of them
00:32:05.860
it's a full complement with the batteries and when you expect them to arrive in ukraine
00:32:10.780
well we're going to have some come very soon within days actually because a couple of the
00:32:16.020
countries that have patriots are going to swap over and will replace the patriots with the ones they
00:32:21.780
have and matt will coordinate with nato but so it's going to be they're going to start arriving
00:32:27.900
very very soon this afternoon boris pistorius the german defense minister is visiting pete haxett
00:32:33.820
the secret of defense and we'll discuss also i think on this whole patriot thing norway is involved
00:32:38.620
so that's on the patriots but this whole deal is also about missiles or ammunition so it's a broader
00:32:44.380
than the patriots we have one country that has 17 patriots getting ready to be shipped they're not
00:32:50.220
going to need them for them so we're going to work a deal where the 17 will go or a big portion of
00:32:55.740
the 17th we'll go to the war setting mr president mr president could this transaction with nato be
00:33:05.900
viewed as a step towards achieving peace letting putin know that now uh zelinski has a little bit
00:33:12.780
more powerful tools in his tool chest and maybe that brings him to the table to achieve peace because
00:33:17.580
i know that you wanted to do that brian that's what we've been saying i think you might have expressed
00:33:22.220
it better if you wanted the truth exactly that was a summary that was a nice summary i think he's
00:33:28.140
done better than us he's he's a very good guy i can tell you that but uh no it's well well said yeah
00:33:35.100
i think this is a chance at getting peace or it's just going to be the same thing i have to tell you
00:33:43.100
europe has a lot of spirit for this war a lot of people you know when i first got involved i really
00:33:49.580
didn't think they did but they do and i saw that a month ago and you were there most of you many of
00:33:55.260
you were there the level of uh esprit de corps spirit that they have is amazing they really think it's a
00:34:04.860
very very important uh thing to do or they wouldn't be doing look they're agreeing to just you know
00:34:09.900
they're paying for everything we're not paying anymore we were we have an ocean separating us they
00:34:14.860
said we have a problem we make the best stuff but we can't keep doing this and biden should have done
00:34:20.540
this years ago he should have done it from the beginning but he didn't he didn't know he was there
00:34:25.660
this guy wanted what what a horrible job they did for this country and i just hope between the
00:34:31.820
border and this and so many other inflation what a horrible administration the worst administration
00:34:38.380
in history in my opinion that's not my opinion i think it's everybody's opinion but this is something
00:34:43.580
that shouldn't have happened and we're going to see if we can end it if i do want to make one
00:34:49.100
statement again i said it before this is not trump's war we're here to try and get it finished and
00:34:56.460
settled and whatever because nobody wins with this this is a loser from every standpoint from this was
00:35:03.580
biden and this was other people and uh it's very sad it's very sad situation this gentleman is doing a
00:35:12.220
great job he's gonna i think he's gonna get it and matt and everybody else that's working on it i think
00:35:17.020
you'll get this thing over with hope mr president you've praised european countries today as standing
00:35:23.260
up for ukraine as being strong will you uh allow them to continue to negotiate tariffs lower than 30
00:35:28.540
percent before august 1st or is the deal set at this point what does that mean you mean you're talking
00:35:32.860
about the territory oh you're back on tariffs they're on a more friendly tariff right a little
00:35:39.660
bit more friendly perhaps no we're going to be talking to people we have you know i watched the
00:35:46.300
show this one they were talking about well when's he going to make the deal the deals are already made
00:35:49.660
the letters are the deals the deals are made there are no deals to make they would like to do a
00:35:55.180
different kind of a deal and we're always open to talk we are open to talk including to europe
00:35:59.980
in fact they're coming over they'd like to talk to us mr president is there any concern about the u.s
00:36:05.980
stockpiles there was a pause in delivery of uh weaponry to ukraine in order to evaluate apparently
00:36:13.500
the u.s stockpiles what came out of that evaluation i mean this was a very big what we're talking about
00:36:19.580
today is a very very big day and uh what pete was doing and me too i knew what pete was doing
00:36:27.340
uh was evaluation because we knew this was going to happen and now we actually announced it they
00:36:33.820
voted on it it's all been done so obviously that has a big impact on you know when you say pause
00:36:41.340
obviously you're not going to be doing things if you don't know what's going to happen here
00:36:44.860
but we were pretty sure this was going to happen so we did a little bit of a pause
00:36:48.860
but this is a very big this is a very big event today this is something
00:36:52.620
mr president if it escalates further how far are you willing to go in response
00:36:57.660
in what in what how far are you willing to go if putin were to escalate
00:37:01.580
send more bombs in the coming days don't ask me a question like that how far i don't know
00:37:05.340
i i want to get the war settled they're not americans that are dying in it and you know i have a problem
00:37:11.100
and jd has a problem it's a stance that he's had for a long time they're not americans dying but
00:37:16.540
uh there are a lot of people dying and on something that should be able to be settled
00:37:21.500
and we all agree with that this group of people that you know we want to defend our country but
00:37:27.500
you know ultimately having a strong europe is a very good thing it's a very good thing so i'm okay
00:37:33.740
with that yeah please in the back yeah is there a ceiling on what the europeans are willing to pay
00:37:37.580
for and it sounds like are you ruling out the u.s paying for some from additional weapons through
00:37:42.460
drawdown authority because basically what the president is saying that he's willing of course
00:37:49.260
taking consideration what the u.s needs itself so it's not that you can have a shopping list and
00:37:53.980
you can order whatever you want because the u.s has to make sure that the u.s keeps its hands on what
00:37:58.940
the u.s needs also to keep the whole world safe because in the end you are the police agent of the
00:38:02.940
whole world you're the most powerful nation on earth most powerful military on earth but given that
00:38:08.700
the u.s has decided to indeed massively supply ukraine with what is necessary through nato europeans 100
00:38:15.660
paying for that and what we have been doing over the last couple of days is talking with countries
00:38:20.380
and i just mentioned to once who in a first wave immediately said we want to chip in and then you
00:38:25.500
are talking really talking about big numbers take germany visiting today they're really talking about
00:38:31.100
big numbers um i spoke with germany spoke with most of the larger countries and they are really
00:38:42.380
enthusiastic about this they want to and you know they're willing to go very far i will tell you
00:38:46.940
you know as per your question how far would i go they they want to go very far they don't want
00:38:52.060
this to happen that's why i think from putin's standpoint it would really be good he gets the
00:38:56.700
country's economy is doing very poorly and he's got to get his economy back he's got to save his
00:39:01.660
economy he could save his country in a sense but the economy can destroy destroyed a lot of countries
00:39:08.060
over the years he wants to get that economy back and you know he's got a great country for trading and
00:39:12.780
other things if they could use the assets instead of war uh he's got some tremendous potential that's
00:39:17.980
what i would say how did you deliver this news to putin sir how did you tell putin this was coming
00:39:23.260
uh i speak to him a lot about getting this thing done and i always hang up say well that was a nice
00:39:32.140
phone call and then missiles launched into kiev or some other city and i said strange and after that
00:39:38.540
happens three or four times you say the talk doesn't mean anything my conversations with them are always
00:39:45.660
very pleasant i say isn't that a very lovely conversation and then the missiles go off that night
00:39:50.940
i go home i tell the first lady and i spoke to vladimir today we had a wonderful conversation
00:39:57.580
she said oh really uh another city was just hit so it's like look he's uh i don't want to say he's
00:40:06.540
an assassin but he's a tough guy it's been proven over the years he's fooled a lot of people he fooled
00:40:12.860
bush he fooled a lot of people he fooled clinton bush obama biden he didn't fool me but what i
00:40:19.500
do say is that uh at a certain point you know ultimately talk doesn't
00:40:35.420
do you know what's happening okay it's frozen from the white house we're going to go back
00:40:44.380
to the oval office there we go let's go right back to it we got another feed go and jump back in
00:40:48.220
look at what's happened so there was a threat in 50 days yeah i mean we'll be hit very hard
00:40:53.820
i mean look i hope he's i hope he's going to do it he knows the deal he knows what a fair deal is
00:41:02.380
if there is such a thing as a fair deal they can know there's no winners here this is a loser
00:41:07.500
this is a loser and i dealt with him from the beginning and it wouldn't have happened but i
00:41:11.980
will say it was ukraine was the apple of his eye we talk about it it was the apple of his eye
00:41:18.140
but it wasn't going to happen and he understood that it wasn't going to happen and then i noticed
00:41:23.100
after i was out i noticed soldiers forming at the border and then i heard horribly stupid things being
00:41:29.900
said from the other side and i said they're really uh handling it very very wrong it's a shame yeah
00:41:38.700
one thing and it is about president trump because you can offer in january on the 12 of february
00:41:43.180
you had your first phone call with putin i think you did exactly what i hope you would do that is
00:41:48.300
breaking the deadlock starting the conversation because you have to test him i know putin very well
00:41:53.420
from the days i was prime minister and then once you have to test him and you did this and you really
00:41:57.580
gave him a chance to be serious to get to the table to start negotiations steve ridkov marco
00:42:02.300
who we all tried to help but you've now come to a point where you say well hey we actually thought
00:42:07.900
we had probably four times a deal yeah i mean you would have called and said this looks good yeah and
00:42:14.380
then the deal wouldn't happen because bombs would be thrown out that night and you'd say we're not
00:42:18.140
making any deals it was like but you're making the devil was crucial because you had to start that
00:42:24.460
process and you were the only one who was able to do that i think we'll get it done do you think
00:42:27.660
he's reasonable enough to negotiate an end to this i think we're going to get it done i think look
00:42:34.940
this is a very powerful situation you have very wealthy countries buying the best equipment in the
00:42:40.540
world and we have the best equipment in the world we make equipment like no other you know our submarines
00:42:47.580
nuclear submarines are so powerful they're most powerful weapon ever built and we have the best in
00:42:55.980
the world by they're 20 years behind 25 years behind us we have the greatest equipment anywhere in the
00:43:02.940
world i just hope we don't have to use it yeah please thank you mr president um on a separate topic
00:43:08.380
here uh president biden of all people spoke to the new york times over the weekend he did not speak to
00:43:15.180
them on the record during his time in office at all but he spoke to them recently and he defended his
00:43:20.060
use of the auto pen and said that he signed off on every decision but at the same time the times
00:43:25.740
reports that he did not individually approve each name for the categorical pardons that applied to
00:43:31.340
large numbers of people what is your take on that any new revelations from that well i mean you're talking
00:43:37.180
about the auto pen look the auto pen i think is maybe one of the biggest scandals that we've had in
00:43:44.060
50 to 100 years this is a tremendous scandal and i know the people on the other side
00:43:50.860
of the you see that desk that resolute desk unfortunately he used it before me but you
00:43:56.860
know we have our choice of seven desks they're all beautiful but i chose the resolute and so did he
00:44:03.500
unfortunately but the people on the other side of the resolute desk i know them lisa the whole group and
00:44:12.300
they're no good they're sick people and i guarantee you he knew nothing about what he was signing
00:44:20.460
i guarantee it so they're going to figure it out and we'll see what happens but to me the auto pen you
00:44:26.700
know you elected president you know what the auto pen is supposed to do sign thousands of letters from
00:44:33.580
young people that write i get we get thousands of letters a week susie right thousands
00:44:39.260
i mean tens of thousands sometimes i look at a room there's a room where we have many many people
00:44:44.540
working responding and sending letters back that's what an auto pen supposed to be to write to a young
00:44:52.060
seven-year-old boy that writes to the president and he wants to be president someday and he loves america
00:44:58.140
that's what the auto pen supposed to be it's not supposed to be for signing major legislation and all the
00:45:04.940
things no the auto pen and i doubt he knew i doubt i doubt they even spoke to him about it i think
00:45:10.860
they had if it's called the freewheeling auto pen like biden was never for open borders biden was
00:45:18.620
never for transgender for everyone so i don't think he uh i think the radical left people that took they
00:45:25.740
took over the white house and if i didn't win our country was finished you know when i was in and i said
00:45:31.740
this a couple of times i hope i don't bore you with it but when i was in saudi arabia i was in qatar
00:45:37.020
i was in uae and then i met with all of your leaders including you a great leader he's now the leader of
00:45:44.380
many countries not just no no no but uh but i met with a lot of leaders over the last two months
00:45:53.500
in the middle east and all the nato all of the nato countries
00:45:58.060
and i will tell you they had one common phrase they thought america was dead one year ago
00:46:05.100
and today they say they all say it and i hope i hope you'll back me up on this but they say now
00:46:11.100
it's the hottest country anywhere in the world it is look at our numbers look at the numbers we made
00:46:15.020
you see we made 25 billion last month we don't we didn't make that for years uh the tariffs are
00:46:21.740
kicking in the economy is very strong even though we have a fed person who's terrible he doesn't know
00:46:26.940
what the hell he's doing but that's all right we blew we blow through interest rates we're doing
00:46:30.860
so well we blow through it be nice because people would be able to buy housing a lot easier but uh
00:46:36.860
think of it we thought your country was dead and they were dealing with china because they really
00:46:42.700
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00:46:48.380
have the hottest country anywhere in the world so we've uh we've done a really good job and uh it's an
00:46:54.780
honor to have this man this man is a star and he's going to be dealing with another one of my stars
00:47:00.380
matt and you're going to do a great job matt whitaker okay thank you very much everybody
00:47:14.700
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get mike ben's this afternoon then um the uh pretty blunt and i know the america first our america first
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audiences i can tell by the chat uh are a little bit in shock uh ben harnwell a couple things number one
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it's both now it's from a part of it's from a standoff basis and that is the escalatory nature
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of the military equipment he is pretty adamant we're not providing this we're not going to run up on
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debt we're selling this we're selling this to the uh to nato to the nato allies rute seem and not
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ambivalent i didn't exactly get a hey yeah these countries are buying this and this is what they're
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paying but the president's pretty adamant we're not supplying uh particularly offensive weaponry
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and even defensive we're not giving them anything this is being bought by nato um but he did say
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to start off with is the sanctions in secondary sanctions and secondary sanctions are direct
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economic warfare i'm a big believer in sanctions and i think they work and they can work um
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um they can be very strong i this is the way i think we bring the persians if you want regime
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change you want the people to uh regime change to come from the people do it with sanctions and
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secondary sanctions and cutting off their capital but he announced in 50 days there'll be i think
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additional tariffs on russia although we we don't buy we don't purchase a lot from russia uh the eu does
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uh because of the natural gas but um he said secondary sanctions secondary sanctions we get
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any trading party that would be the chinese communist party so i gotta we gotta work through
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this after the show as he's saying he's gonna put 100 tariff on the ccp who trade for them that's
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all gonna be worked out he did president trump did sound like all of a sudden he kept saying this
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is not trump's war this is not trump's war he's absolutely correct this is one of the things we've
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we've on the show said over and over again this is not trump's war that's why you got to either get
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in there trying to make a deal if you can't make a deal just cut bait because if you go down this path
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you may say it's not trump's war and it hasn't been up till now but you get into the sense of even if
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you're selling them you know if you if a russian mother and father uh denoted their kid was killed on
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the battlefield with an american with american weaponries are going to miss the nuance that nato bought it uh
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and uh and the americans didn't give it if a uh offensive if offensive missiles strike the
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suburbs of moscow and take out a couple of city blocks the russian people who are our greatest ally in
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world war ii are going to miss the uh subtlety of the point that that that missile was paid for by estonia
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uh and this is all where it will come become trump's war as sure as the turning of the earth they'll stick
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it to him and nato will want to stick it to him because they'll want him as an active combatant
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now obviously on the economic side you're now getting engaged more than ever with the secondary
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sanctions potential in 50 days and you can tell president trump believes that the uh he can bring
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this to a head in in 50 days uh ben harnwell and and coming back from that nato trip where the where
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they talked about increasing the thing we said he was very moved you could tell him by that um nothing
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really should have nothing really should have changed the ukraine war is a european war it is
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a european war let me go back in history and make sure everybody in this audience understands something
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and the trump folks over the administration understand something from 1939
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until even after the vermont went in a barbarossa in june of 1941 but all the way up to pearl harbor
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that part of it was a european war when the japanese attacked us at pearl harbor on december 7th
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that night in the white house just go read all the histories about it which i've read basically
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anything that's important there was discussion the next day about when they went to congress
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to ask for a declaration of war against japan they worded it very very precisely a state of war
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existed because japan had attacked us you know while they were negotiating with the state department
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the worst of the worst correct the there was discussion about do we declare war in germany at
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the same time and it was the politicians and folks were adamant no we're not going to declare war in
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germany that's a european war as much as the british have been trying to drag us into it and the british
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were actively trying to drag us into it and church from these guys admitted it um on december 8th we
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did not declare war on nazi germany remember that they don't ever mention that in the history books
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we did not declare war on that's on nazi germany why it was a european war and the american people
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particularly the tendencies of the american people to want to take care of things at home
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said okay fine the japanese attacked us we're at state of war with japan they had a vote i think
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only one member of the house uh did not vote for it but they phrased as a state of war exists boom
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but we did not clear war on nazi germany hitler made a conscious decision i think two or three days
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later because of a secret treaty they had with the japanese and thinking that the americans wouldn't
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fight or that we were too weak or too cowardly to actually get engaged in what was a bloodletting
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on project on operation barbarossa and guess where the bloodlands of where we're talking about today
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that the americans would never do that he declared war on the united states ever since the moment he
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declared war in the united states everybody in washington dc the the beginning of the imperial
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capital focus on germany first the whole strategy shifted germany first the pacific became a secondary
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thought the bloody war in the pacific right and there was tons of complaints from people why are we
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not focused on the japanese why are they always late to get reinforcements why are they always late
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particularly since the strategy of the folks post-civil war was an american strategy based on the
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central pacific and even then the three island chain that's why we became even became thought
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about becoming imperial power in the philippines and other places by uh by going to war with spain
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so this is uh we're in the same situation now and this is we have to be very careful president
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trump and he snapped at the guy who asked the question we asked earlier hey i see you're selling
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this you go up the escalatory ladder what happens that doesn't work what's next and he was not happy
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with that question he snapped at the guy don't ask that question understanding president trump has you
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know many alternatives he's looking at it's not going to lay his car on the table now he did come back
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and address it somewhat later but ben harnwell uh this is the the nato and the europeans and zelinski
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and and and that the collection of crooks that work for zelinski want to do nothing more their
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number one objective is to hang this on trump and make this trump's war make this america's war
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because then once you go up the escalatory ladder on uh on military aid you continue to open up the
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the spigots for financial aid which they can skim their 20 off the top and eventually you're going to
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get just like in the 12-day war you're going to get you know you're providing defense and you're
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providing personnel to run the defense operations next thing you know you're in offensive uh you're
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in offensive war over there there are number zelinski's number one priority is to make sure
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that he can put the handle on this of trump's war and president trump over and over again said this is
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not my war i've tried to settle this we thought we had four or five times deals uh putin has not been
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straightforward ben we got a break mike ben's more john solomon huge breaking news on that the
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auto pen uh just brought up there one question uh biden gives an on the record which he never did in
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four years of the presidency of new york times think about that for a second that's how that's how
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demented that's the dementia was all over him basically says well yeah they used the auto pen but
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i knew everybody they were doing but please don't ask me who they signed the pardons for that means the
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pardons are no good and it's katie bar the door now because people are going to be rolling um tons
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of information there ben harnwell we get about two minutes your thoughts before we punch um look the
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the argument the thesis is that nato was really keen to do this right uh and that's what they they
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they spun out in the oval office my question steve is that if nato is so keen to be buying us produced
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arms why does it need to be brokered by donald trump sitting in the oval office why does mark
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root need to come over to dc and have this done from the oval office well the reason is exactly
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the thesis that you're lying out they are dragging donald trump into this wall right that is the
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point that's the whole point about the theatrics today this is this is nato this is the europeans
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dragging like on a fishing hook donald trump into this war and he's saying he we both we both
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of us independently made this note that he said repeatedly not this is not trump's war the question
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is steve is how is that going to land with the base and i can tell you look i've got 30 seconds
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i can tell you it's not oh with the base the base 100 against no the base it's beyond that though it's
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the base 100 against us there's so many more complicated issues the base is going to have a
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major role in this i got to bounce real quickly you're you're uh where do people get you ben
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on getter at harnwell let's not bury the lead what did rute say his one moment of truth there with
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all the spin well america is the world's police you're the police agent for the world see their
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mentality no the answer is that is incorrect we're about america first we're not the cop on the beat for
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the entire world they still believe that he said it the one truth of a moment rute had in that entire
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thing was he said well you're the cop you're the you're the police agent for the entire world the
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whole world au contraire
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