Episode 4635： Where We Stand Heading Into 2026 And The Midterms
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On today's show, Stephen K. Bannon and Alex Blumberg are joined by Richard Barris to talk about the latest on the Epstein scandal, the Iran deal, the new alliance with NATO, and much more.
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I don't think it's I don't think it's a long time I think really the question
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should be asked why did Biden get us into that ridiculous war why did Biden
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bring us there that should never ever have happened that war this is Biden's
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war I'm just trying to end it because we're saving a lot of lives a lot of
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opinions change very rapidly might not be 50 this might be much sooner than 50
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days when you think the first Patriot missiles some of these weapons that are
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they're getting they're already being shipped from what countries they're
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coming in from Germany and then replaced by Germany and in all cases the United
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States gets paid back in full so what what's happening as you know is the
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European Union if you look mostly European Union stuff but let's put it in the form
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of NATO it's very similar but NATO is going to pay us back for everything in
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some cases we're going to be paid back by countries of the European Union
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directly but we're always getting our money back in full so we're not going
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to have any more investment to make we're getting our money back in full and if we
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can make a deal that'd be great we're saving five or six thousand soldiers a
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week they're Russian and the Ukrainian soldiers they're not American soldiers and
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we won't have boots on the ground but it's a shame five thousand last week they
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say seven thousand one hundred soldiers both Russian and Ukraine were killed
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people to move on but I'm curious why do you think your supporters in particular
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have been so interested in the Epstein story I don't understand about how it's
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been handled I don't understand why they would be so interested he's dead for a long
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time he was never a big factor in terms of life I don't understand what the
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interest or what the fascination is I really don't and the credible
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information has been given don't forget we went through years of the muller
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witch hunt and all of the different things the steel dossier which was all
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fake all that information was fake but I don't understand why the Jeffrey Epstein
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case would be of interest to anybody it's pretty boring stuff it's sorted but
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it's boring and I don't understand why it keeps going I think well really only
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pretty bad people including fake news want to keep something like it like that
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going but credible information let them give it anything that's credible I would
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say let them have it this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our
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enemies because we're going medieval on these people here's not got a free shot
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all these networks lying about the people the people have had a belly full of it I
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know you don't like hearing that I know you try to do everything the world to stop
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that but you're not gonna stop it it's going to happen and where do people like
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that go to share the big line mega media I wish in my soul I wish that any of
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these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my
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purpose if that answer is to save my country this country will be saved war
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room here's your host Stephen K Bannon Wednesday 16 July year of the Lord 2025 I
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believe we're gonna have a press avail with the president starting at 11 I think
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the head of Bahrain is going to be there which used to be the old naval where the
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naval base was in the Persian Gulf or I guess now called the Arabian Gulf he's
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going to they're going to have a bilat and before the bilat start we're hearing
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that there's going to be a press avail we'll be covering that live our own
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Brian Glenn will be there so we'll cut into 11 o'clock our base should be some
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fascinating things going on a lot of geopolitics capital markets today Financial
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Times of London has finally admitted that our tariff policy is working they said
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no one except for the Chinese really has kind of punched back on it this is why
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either one or two things are happening people are trying to set up operations
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here in the United States to manufacture and investing here or we're ton in the
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cash and I think they say 50 billion people are talking about 110 billion in
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tariff revenues but so a lot of talk about economy and tariffs today that are
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working want to start with also we're going to now kick off talking about the
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midterms and particularly as we did it last time in the way we won you got to
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really think through are these districts correct and the great Alex de Grasse will
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join us shortly to talk about Texas and Ohio I want to go to Richard Barris first
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off Richard we had Mark Mitchell last night on from from Rasmus and he talked
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about I want to start with you talk about a new coalition a new alliance that you and
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Mitch are working on to make sure that we get as accurate as polling as possible you
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guys and the other people I think you're bringing in have a history of
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understanding the MAGA movement of how to ask the questions of how to look at the
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demographics how to break it down tell us about that first because I want to make
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sure the audience understands this is a big effort of people that are the top
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pollsters and really have been shunted by the mainstream media but are really much
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more accurate in pinpointing at any point in time where MAGA is and in
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particularly where the country is aligns with MAGA so walk us through the
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alliance first well thanks for having me as always Steve and I mean you just said
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it that word accurate I mean that's what this comes down to we started the
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National Association of Independent Pollsters because in the last 10 years
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plus you know the polling industry has had issues for for a while it's just to
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really exacerbate it in the Trump era we've had all these debates about how the
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polling industry has changed and how it has evolved but sadly a lot of people
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have used those debates to you know malign and and others and to bury what
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really matters which is the accuracy of public pollsters though that is our true
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value to the public and if we're not accurate there is no trust and without
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trust George Gallup's vision completely falls apart why would elected officials
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listen to us Steve when they're debating whether or not to support public policy why
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would the voters trust us at all when it comes to our take on on who is or isn't
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ahead or going to win an election I mean it becomes a weapon you know a tool for
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for people so you know with sinister motives and there isn't a group out there
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until now there isn't a group that serves as a bit of a gauge for the American
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public and and for lawmakers to say look these people have got it right these
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people uh know what they're doing you know it's a motive be damned it doesn't
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matter what the motive is Steve all that matters is that they were right or they
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were wrong uh so somebody needs to be there to serve as that gauge to be able to
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tell people you can trust the results of these pollsters or you can't and that's
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what we started it's it's big I'm excited about it it includes myself Mark
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Mitchell at Rasmussen Robert Cahaley at Trafalgar and Matt Towery over at Insider Advantage you
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have got to have a long and proven track record of success and accuracy we all get
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it wrong sometimes uh right I mean that's going to happen um but you cannot be wrong
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every election cycle in cycle out beyond the rule of outlier you have to be accurate and
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this has been a challenging period for polling and if you've done a good job during
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this period the Trump era then hands off you know hats off to you and you know welcome
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aboard so it's Rasmussen Trafalgar Richard Barris big data and Insider Advantage once
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again what was the criteria for selecting the four foundational members of this you have to
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have a track record a published track record of accuracy over a period of time you know there's
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a lot of I have a saying and I think viewers need to to take this to heart in this era there
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are a whole lot of polls but there aren't as many pollsters you know we have too many polls not
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enough pollsters there's a new poll popping up every week Steve and you know when this industry
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got kicked off that was not the case it was Gallup maybe a couple of news organizations did their thing
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but you know George Gallup had the gold standard and for decades we dealt with that and the information
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error has its benefits but it also has you know it also has its downsides and that's one of them
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the springing up of pollsters cycle in and cycle out who then vanish later come back under a new
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assumed name Steve because their track record was awful the year prior or their cycle prior and there's
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nobody watching out for this well there is now and that's the point of this project uh your yours
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your big data tell you you have a different angle of attack on on poll the other three are more
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traditional in the George Gallup school obviously they feel they're more precise they have a track
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record but you come at this totally differently walk our audience do that what's the difference
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well I'm I'm a big believer that a lot of public polls um you know of course there are people who
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are malicious out there and that's sad but it is the reality but I I got I got into this years ago and
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immediately you know my my shtick was that response bias was the primary determination of a lot of
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these wrong calls it was the primary factor so it's not that public opinion shifts as much as people
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thinks it think it does or or what public you know if you follow public polls month and month it looks
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like public opinion is moving a lot um in truth most of the time not all of the time but most of the time
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the difference is really because the pollster is talking to different groups of people and those
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changes and those those errors are really artifacts of how the poll is designed and how the poll is
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is uh conducted and how the data is collected but there are various forms of response biases and
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very few pollsters understand how to identify them and then the shield against it if you do identify it
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and big data is basically um built off of the assumption that that is true which I know it is
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we all we all do now when I first started to argue that it wasn't widely understood it is now um but
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there are and I don't want to give away the secret sauce here but if you look at larger numbers of people
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in the era of declining response rates if you look at larger numbers of people and you make sure you know
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exactly who you're talking to month in and month out um then it's you know the bigger is better in
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polling let me put it that way all right without giving away too much bigger is better so that's
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why that that reflects our name uh talk to me about you've done we had mark mitchell on last night
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he was pretty adamant about these numbers recently president trump who should be peaking given all the
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you know president trump today went through a whole litany of successes and they're pretty extraordinary
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we're also folks covering uh talking the omb guys covering this uh which could be a significant
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vote in the senate about uh shutting down or basically defunding pbs and npr a billion dollars each
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plus the rest of the package the rescissions package so he's got victory after victory
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but the poll numbers don't show that right what what at least with mark mitchell rasmussen what do you show
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yeah he's he's exactly right this should be um a period especially during the summer where
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americans they're doing their own thing they're really only paying attention to big news items
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the passage of that bill uh is a big news item within the bill uh there are a lot of popular
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provisions but the white house did lose the messaging war on this bill i mean it's very clear
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and that's the the press release we have out today uh will show that and we're also releasing more i'll
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talk to you about those results now we also asked about the the economy and various items in the
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economy and what the president's been focusing on and the the overall theme steve is this a lot of
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his successes are being stepped on or overshadowed by unpopular things that are going on fair or not
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is irrelevant all that matters is the optics and what the voters see in their sentiment and how they
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feel and they feel that the president uh should have been you know i mean let me put it this way
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60 years best wage growth in 60 years being stepped on by another intervention in the middle east
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that very few people wanted any part of whatsoever um we had a lot of other economic data then the bill
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gets passed right and it's just one thing after another that is not being celebrated and not being
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touted democrats were able to make a lot of people concerned over cuts to medicaid and and other programs
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in the big beautiful bill and in order to effectively rebut the messaging from the democrats you had to
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be laser focused but they were not laser focused they were talking about this with netanyahu this one
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with that one now we're going to arm ukrainians i mean steve i don't have to explain this to you
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and i'm doing this for the benefit of the viewers i mean this is not popular these things are not popular
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tax on tips and no tax on tips is popular right last weekend was the anniversary of donald trump
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surviving an assassination attempt this should have been a day of celebration instead it was being
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stepped on by how they mishandled the more than that not only how they mishandled the epstein
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situation but then how they actually started to browbeat but voters uh for being uh anyone who was
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concerned over how you know they mishandled this so the bottom line is you know you can't keep peeling
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off little parts of your base and then expect your numbers to stay strong you know you're going to keep
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feeling five years five there and end up in a bad spot can you and you can end up with apathy and
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complacency hang on for one second we'll hold you through the break the general thesis is that his
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accomplishments on the economic side are so powerful and if you look at the underlying data
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the messaging is not there to put that to the forefront and they're the message discipline is
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they're meandering all over other things that uh that people didn't vote for or confused about is
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that the central your central thesis steve that's the gist of it 100 okay hang on okay hang on we're
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stephen k bannon okay we got uh degrasse about texas uh on deck and we got tom fittin about the
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cia and this hopefully this huge investigation that's going to be going on and maybe kick off
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with a special uh counsel uh fentanyl join us here shortly i want to finish with uh richard barris i
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mean barris isn't the problem that you know you have the core base of maga and particularly these
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people they come out for trump they're they're associated with the trump movement they support
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president trump but if they get cynical if they get complacent if they get apathetic and don't turn
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out we have a massive problem in 2026 and beyond right this is one of the reasons i've been hey
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trump 28 because we have not yet proven we can turn out certain low propensity low information
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uh voters uh unless president trump's on top of the ticket what are your thoughts on particularly about
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what this what your polling shows you too few voters i mean too few republicans understand that
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too few people in this space understand that this the number one priority for the republican party had
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to be to get the voter that they voters there are several groups that they underperform with compared
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to donald trump they have to bring them into the fold some of them haven't even been flirting with
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voting republican they left spaces blank in districts like california 13 where duarte went down
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but donald trump carried the district right you look at statewide races like mike rogers he went down
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with trump on the ballot steve so the situation for them is a little bit more dire than they understand
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the redistricting effort uh did not go well and that's why the ones that are in process right now
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moving forward are that important because as it stands right now the voter groups where donald trump
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is now himself starting to hurt with those are the ones that republicans need to bring into the fold
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and just from the polling this month uh here are a couple of groups that need to need to really stand
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out in people's minds 18 to 29 who voted for donald trump though some of his biggest decline this month
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came from that group hispanic men all right the groups where he did increase are kind of funny steve
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those who have a four-year degree or more right and that's great perfect that helped offset some of the
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decline with core with his core voter and his 24 base but it doesn't matter because they're still voting
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democrat at the generic ballot by 10 points so i mean it's just it's like a pointless bump that's
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going to evaporate in a month or two anyway even if it lasts that long uh they're just happy he bombed
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iran for now to be honest and they'll go back to disapproving of him and what will be left is a
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weakened base and that is something that people aren't understanding while they're again you know
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attempting to browbeat all of these different groups in the submission 18 to 29 year olds don't care
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about what's going on all the way around the other side of the world they didn't vote for him for that
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i mean it's just the reality that people are going to have to start to face you know moving look what
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happened in 22 republicans actually did win the house vote in 22 but they still lost control um you
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know going forward in 24 there were very important areas from california to new jersey all around the
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country new york seats in new york state where donald trump outperformed the republicans down ballot
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they're simply out of time they can't afford to continue to carry on with business as usual they
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they had to convince these voters that they were becoming more like donald trump not that donald trump
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was becoming more like them they're out of time i mean so there are all these people you know the
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clapping seals and the rest of them they're going to clap their way right into an utter defeat i mean
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that that's that's the reality i mean i'm not a sugar coater you know me better than that steve that
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is the situation and by the way this month democrats took lead on the generic ballot for
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the first time in our polling since donald trump's second presidency began
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uh barris uh where can people go to get all your analysis and everything over big data and hear your
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podcast where they go we're everywhere but the best places on locals peoples pundit.locals.com you'll
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find you know inside the numbers there you'll find it all there the public polling project where it's
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how we do this which is support from you guys uh on big data poll.com go check it out but locals is
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definitely the central hub for all things people's pundit peoplespundit.locals.com
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there it is richard barris thank you brother appreciate you start starting off the show today
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fantastic anytime all the best alex degrasse alex degrasse given that uh we're focused on texas in
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ohio is this a um is this a is this a bailout plan because we're nervous about 2026 or is this something
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logical we should be doing anyway sir no this this is uh this is logical i mean we have to
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force the issue and make advancements however we can and play the democrats game of course steve we
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want fair lines but we want to take advantage of the law and you know equal representation and so
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if there's the legal way to do this then obviously why wouldn't we of course right we have an obligation
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to the country to ensure that we make the gains that we can legally and so you're looking at two
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maybe they could force the issue to three my advice would be take what we can get and not try to
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overextend where you might get jammed in court i think that those that have kind of gamed out the arms
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race on this um people that are very focused on this within the party have gamed out that hey
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actually this if we fight this out you've got california looking to make a move i'm sure you'll
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see new york other folks that you know they had been so aggressive in the past that there's less they
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could probably squeeze than we can um so it'll be interesting to see how this plays out but we're
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looking at five in texas of course i was looking at some proposed maps that give us 30 seats where
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trump won by uh 20 plus in texas and you'd flip five giving the democrats eight seats um hold it
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hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on you were looking at there's 20 potential you're saying
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there's 20 potential in in in texas 20 potential that could be redistrictor is that five pickups
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where trump won by 20 so you know safe okay got it got it five pickups you've got texas seven do you
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have any idea yep yeah i've got the numbers you can move texas seven from democrat 20 to republican
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20 you can move texas 28 from republican 7 to republican 21 very easily without drawing any
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incumbents in with each other you can move texas 29 from a democrat 20 to republican 20 give or take
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same thing with texas 32 democrat 23 to republican like 25 even and you can move texas 34 from being
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on a trump by four points to like 21 um and then you could shore up some of these seats 15 23 24 that
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were about you know trump by 16 you can move them up four or five points you'll leave democrats with
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two seats in houston two seats in dallas two seats in austin a seat in san antonio and el paso
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you have this the question i was going to ask you see the the demographic shift of hispanic
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citizens supporting mag and supporting trump is this taking advantage of that in south texas
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or grand valley or is this realignment mainly in the suburbs around uh the big cities sir it's both
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so i mean hispanic shift you know has been aggressively ongoing obviously from the last time we did the
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redistricting um you know i mean what was it a 30 point swing i think nowhere in the country moved
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more towards president trump broadly you've got the bronx and you've got south texas so both areas
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heavily with hispanic voters obviously south texas fully um and so or for the most part of course and
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so that that's exactly right steve so it's both fronts i mean you're able to move the numbers here
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all over the place but you see newsom's out there because it's interesting steve because the way the
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democrats have done it in their states is they and we talked about on the show they've got these
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community boards and these sort of quote unquote independent groups and you know it's harder for
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them to try to combat this right and of course they've been gerrymandering look at illinois you
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look at california you look at new york and all these things but they have to change their processes so
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newsom said hey i'll take it to the voters we'll do a referendum change the rules allow the state
00:24:59.700
legislated to gerrymander um you know that obviously would be problematic but it seems to be a little
00:25:06.040
bit of a longer process um so at least it might be a short-term buffer for us and maybe a longer term
00:25:13.360
battling it out but protecting president trump from of course they're open about it they'll impeach him
00:25:19.720
and they'll slow everything down with investigations we have to prevent this at all costs i don't think
00:25:24.620
anyone's worried about things poll numbers go up they go down it's very early um you know certainly
00:25:30.040
it's incumbent on republicans to sell the big beautiful bill and you know the positives in it
00:25:35.160
for new york largest tax increase tax cut ever um you know no tax on tips social security a lot of
00:25:41.920
child care provisions that poll very well so all republicans and i know many of them watch the show
00:25:46.620
members of congress my humble advice get out there talk about the economic issues and the results
00:25:52.160
and contrast that with the democrats results on we started they had they had you know they've had a
00:25:59.000
day with the congressman the guys in the house to finally start talking about the big beautiful bill
00:26:04.300
we had jane zirkle and yesterday in the six o'clock show we played 21 straight minutes of interview bang
00:26:10.120
bang bang and she was asking what's the best what's the one still work they all said hey we we have to
00:26:14.880
have more rescissions we have to more more cuts and spending but they they talked up the economic
00:26:19.920
uh advantages you just heard barris and mitchell will say the same thing you know outside this
00:26:26.500
self-owner this fumble with epstein it's the economic message it's very powerful and you see
00:26:31.660
this in the data whether it's the terror tariffs or real wages increasing it's not being sold
00:26:37.100
aggressively enough if that if they get on the tip of the if they start driving that and talk about
00:26:41.560
where this economy is going in the economics of it uh it's a it's a message that clearly is going to
00:26:46.840
resonate particularly with the type of people we have to get out there but i just want to reiterate
00:26:51.780
something you said because i think the republicans and even the mega base are fooling themselves in
00:26:55.820
this if you look at what's happening in new york city right which is the future of the democratic
00:27:00.540
party right particularly the working people's party and dsa the ground game they have and i think this
00:27:05.960
thing in new york city is very serious they're not just going to impeach trump they're going to come
00:27:10.620
after criminal charges on everybody these people are this is a combination of neo-marxism meets radical
00:27:16.900
jihad and they're the exact opposite end of the spectrum of the mega movement sir your thoughts
00:27:22.140
yeah you know i talked about that on the show i think it was right before i got married but i've
00:27:27.840
never had more feedback from people i mean literally i got so many texts from people that watched it we did
00:27:32.940
a kind of a deep dive on mom domi you know they're not building this army steve and sending them home you
00:27:37.540
don't build a political machine like this and then you you take the mayorship for the communists and
00:27:42.800
then you say okay everyone let's let's go home they are building this and it wasn't just in the city
00:27:47.600
buffalo albany i mean cities upstate you have red fully communist type people dsa folks that are
00:27:54.940
winning in their primaries and i think that's really important for people to understand we have to be
00:27:59.080
aware of what our political opponents are and they're backed by the ccp i mean this stuff is crazy we
00:28:04.860
could talk about it all day and they are coming for all of us not just of course the president but
00:28:09.220
any of those and the lovers of power that have stood in the breach they will punish all of us
00:28:13.740
they are dangerous people i believe of course yeah hang on one second i just want to hold you for a few
00:28:19.320
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00:30:53.820
barris and insider advantage are president trump's people would say those are the pollsters understand
00:30:58.800
president trump and they're very pro trump uh last night we had mark mitchell and today we've had richard
00:31:04.540
barris you've seen the analysis you're a polling fanatic what is your what is your what's your
00:31:10.040
takeaway and what needs to be what then needs to be done sir thanks steve so look i think it's
00:31:16.200
important to set the stage here i mean this is president trump's republican party and so it's
00:31:20.180
more unique than you know past cycles where people have you know the brand and this and that i mean
00:31:25.100
president trump built a historic very unique coalition and going into this midterm of course it's incumbent
00:31:31.260
on republicans on the ballot this year since president trump is not senate house you know
00:31:35.900
different down ballot races that you know we need to lift all boats and work together and maintain
00:31:41.060
president trump's coalition right he's got ma he's got democrats he's got you know it's very unique it's
00:31:45.980
not the traditional you know republican sort of voting voter target base that we're focused on and so
00:31:52.220
you know all republican house members really have to think of themselves like hey you run a media
00:31:56.980
company you know this is you you have to get content out to the people directly you need to
00:32:00.940
educate people on what we're doing i think it's impressive that the house and leadership and the
00:32:05.980
president and senate they got this done at the time they did and so we've got more time to sell and
00:32:11.080
most importantly more time to get more rescissions another you know big bill to continue to move the
00:32:16.860
needle and it's not going to be an overnight quick process everyone's got to be out there hammering
00:32:21.100
on local tv not just in the fox you know not just in the talking to our own people you got to be
00:32:27.120
focused on those sort of low propensity i don't want to you know low information you know people
00:32:32.080
that are living their lives they're not really paying attention they maybe see the news about
00:32:35.600
i've seen this and that and and they're kind of wondering but they need to see the news about
00:32:40.140
the results that president trump and house republicans have delivered and and things are early polls go up
00:32:46.980
they go down see people adjust people you know their strategies i mean it's very early of course
00:32:52.140
and i know that maga forces are coalescing a lot of money and resources and strategy to focus on
00:32:59.460
the issues that matter in the blitz you know next next year but for now it's really on house members
00:33:05.480
senate you know get out there like people did yesterday i mean new media row media row and and
00:33:10.420
educate voters because i think some people have no idea steve i mean i don't know if people know that
00:33:14.960
their their taxes got cut if you're in the working class if you're in the service industry and things
00:33:21.000
like that and so when people are aware of that i think they're very popular i mean this is the
00:33:28.240
go ahead so to grasp we just kicked off 2026 uh with texas we'll spend more time on that uh i want to
00:33:36.900
thank you where do people go uh to find out more about you particularly if they want to reach out to
00:33:41.500
you today on this quite brilliant analysis you've given us sir so if you want to email hit me at a
00:33:47.060
team at at least for congress.com and we'll make sure to get all that thanks people love reaching
00:33:51.820
out but i'm at to grass 81 on x scatter truth uh thank you steve thank you the possible we'll gear
00:33:57.920
up and keep this thing going of course thank you sir you were such a uh central figure in
00:34:06.420
the last midterm particularly about all the redistricting uh got on top of it early which
00:34:11.700
you have to uh people also should continue to focus on that and we'll do much more on this
00:34:16.360
situation in new york that is the future of the democratic party and it's not only not going to
00:34:21.720
go away it's going to metastasize uh very very serious of what we've allowed to happen uh tom
00:34:28.060
finton joins us one of the reasons we've allowed this to happen is that we have not taken apart the
00:34:32.540
deep state which uh wants an empire but is very anti-american tom uh you've been all over uh this
00:34:39.880
i guess this broadening criminal investigation potential investigation that hasn't actually
00:34:44.820
formed up yet to get a special prosecutor although we understand that may be in the works
00:34:48.720
what is this latest you put out another tiktok this morning what what is your focus on this thing
00:34:54.320
and what are your concerns well ratcliffe will release this cia report and congratulations to the
00:35:01.420
justice department and fbi for doing everything they could seemingly over the last two weeks to
00:35:06.380
distract from that uh confirming though that uh the obama gang rigged up a intelligence community
00:35:15.180
assessment high level a top secret document that was literally designed to launder the steel dossier
00:35:25.460
into the public domain to destroy try to destroy trump at the beginning of his presidency indeed it led
00:35:33.180
to criminal investigations uh helped lead to the removal of flynn etc and it was all done at the
00:35:40.840
from the top down this was not an intelligence community assessment about the impact of russia on
00:35:46.360
the elections that kind of brought together traditional analysis they made the decision we're going to put the
00:35:52.980
dossier in there in fact the fbi mandated it and then you had uh john brennan endorse it as well
00:36:01.280
and so when you look at this review by ratcliffe's team it's clear they put material in there that
00:36:07.700
didn't didn't have any basis to suggest that putin wanted trump elected when in fact there was a basis to
00:36:15.160
suggest that putin generally was just messing around with us and b he presumed hillary was going to be
00:36:22.240
president and wanted to impair her but instead they went with the fake lead generated as a result of a
00:36:30.440
joint partnership between the fbi under obama and the hillary clinton campaign to create this dossier
00:36:37.400
and make it a core part of this fake intelligence community assessment which by the way was so
00:36:45.380
sensitive it was sent out to 200 people in the government almost immediately it leaked within
00:36:50.420
24 48 hours it led to the disclosure and full publication of the steel report and the rest is awful history
00:36:59.000
um given the disclosure we've had and we're going to have jefferson morley on tonight about the uh
00:37:08.760
disclosure about the cia understand knowing who um and knowing well in advance of who uh of who oswald was
00:37:17.220
and maybe even some contact with some of their front groups with oswald wanting to come to work
00:37:23.780
you've now had decade after decade after decade why is this some hang-up now for us to go full
00:37:30.780
throttle on this and uh and actually start a a significant criminal investigation these
00:37:36.460
intelligence services and the fbi have been out of control and it's obvious they tried to have a
00:37:41.400
let me ask you do you believe they tried to have a coup against president trump in his first term sir
00:37:48.640
well i think the muller investigation was a coup it was designed to try to throw him out of office
00:37:54.620
pressure him to remove either through impeachment or through the embarrassment of fake criminal
00:38:00.840
allegations it didn't work in the end uh maybe it did work in part he lost the election
00:38:06.260
so we can't under we can't underplay you know the fact that he wasn't prosecuted doesn't mean he
00:38:12.580
won it just means they got their pound of flesh differently and so you know the cia report although
00:38:21.280
although our although our theory at the war room we think this needs to be done we're saying that
00:38:26.100
the intelligence apparatus he didn't know nobody goes from 63 million votes to 74 million votes and
00:38:31.640
loses this thing was absolutely stolen the the fake ballots of biden that have never shown up since
00:38:36.960
that was a intelligent was intelligence apparatus also my point is yes i understand but my point is
00:38:46.080
the the the deep state still has not had a glove laid on them and this is i think part of the problem
00:38:52.560
i've argued with the epstein situation people want accountability even people that are late to this
00:38:58.460
story and don't know much about epstein they think something's murky here there there are dark forces
00:39:03.900
behind the scenes that are actually calling the shot you've been one of the top voices of actually
00:39:08.280
holding this accountable through four-year requests and through going to court and it strikes people as
00:39:13.460
odd that you have to do this so often during president trump's administration when the deep state
00:39:19.120
is still targeted president trump for for removal if president trump or his people around him
00:39:24.320
don't think the first action the democrats are going to do on january 3rd or 4th of uh of what 2027
00:39:32.120
is to move to impeach him they're just they're completely wrong this is the entire focus is to
00:39:37.800
take trump down and to break his movement tom finton you know and and and you make the good point
00:39:42.720
because president trump is concerned that there may be people in the list that should not be there
00:39:48.160
whose names will be um they'll be embarrassed as a result of just guilt by association i i would
00:39:54.880
suggest that he broaden his thinking on this and recognize this isn't about epstein this is about dc
00:40:01.420
corruption it's it's the most readily apparent apolitical example of it because both democrats
00:40:10.620
and republicans when you see eighty percent poll numbers saying people want the epstein records
00:40:15.960
uh released that that we're they're on to something politically right and i would hope the politicians
00:40:22.400
here in dc follow the lead uh but i tell you i don't i the handling of the epstein matter by the fbi
00:40:31.020
and the justice department further confirmed that they can't be trusted across the street on their own
00:40:38.480
and i don't think the agencies institutionally are capable of the types of of sophisticated
00:40:45.280
comprehensive or dare i say competent criminal investigations a into themselves
00:40:53.620
or b into agencies like the cia who were at the center of this grand conspiracy against trump
00:41:01.920
this is why i've said it once i'll say it again president trump should run the investigations and
00:41:08.160
the prosecutions directly from the white house through a close appointed official who reports
00:41:13.620
directly to him bring in the best of the best from federal agencies outside of the fbi and doj
00:41:20.160
to conduct the investigations and prosecutions if necessary and he is the magistrate in chief
00:41:26.660
he can run it he can say go after this person if the law requires that there's evidence that suggests
00:41:34.380
this person committed a crime investigate it if the evidence is there investigate it arrest comey he
00:41:42.540
threatened my life prosecute garland he's in contempt of congress for hiding the biden's the biden uh auto
00:41:50.880
pen scandal mainly the the audio of uh his crazed interview with uh the special counsel her he's in
00:41:59.380
contempt for refusing to turn out over in order to protect joe there are all sorts of things he can
00:42:04.860
direct specifically the prosecution of war investigation of and it doesn't mean these people
00:42:10.320
aren't protected by the constitution it's the same civil rights protections and civil protections they
00:42:16.760
would have if they were subject to doj investigations but the doj can't do it they've got too many james
00:42:23.560
comey's over there as it is the leadership is under siege just with the day-to-day work they have to
00:42:32.060
do to deal with the judicial lawfare that's enough for any attorney general just to deal with take it
00:42:37.520
out take it off their plate they can go to town doing whatever else they need to do in terms of
00:42:43.240
protecting his agenda but this lawfare this attack on our republic that we still haven't recovered
00:42:49.560
from needs to be pursued directly by the president
00:42:54.460
i just want to go tom if we can just hold you shortly through the break on the other side um there
00:43:02.820
is some sort of obviously investigation going on we're seeing leaks about it about brennan and other
00:43:07.520
people uh you're arguing it's time to bring that together the best way to bring that together
00:43:12.880
announce a special counsel let him deal with all of it right and most importantly given what mike
00:43:19.320
davis the war room etc been saying now over the last couple years president trump's article two
00:43:24.820
powers right article two powers make it incumbent that that special counsel report to the office of
00:43:31.580
the president and not over to doj they're they're fully occupied with defending this presidency and
00:43:37.600
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okay uh right there you see the uh the honor guard is getting ready the crown prince and prime minister
00:45:13.220
of bairan is going to come for a bilat with the president i think there's going to be a press avail
00:45:17.440
i remember brian glenn said we're going to cut to that in the 11 o'clock hour as soon as it starts
00:45:21.580
probably he arrives around 11 o'clock uh let's keep that right there tom finton uh you are so revered in
00:45:29.080
this movement and for this particular reason your investigations just give us your thoughts give
00:45:34.880
me a minute or two on on uh on where do we go from here uh what's your best recommendation how we get
00:45:41.280
into a real investigation of the deep state well on epstein it's a relatively straightforward
00:45:47.580
solution just give us the records under foia describe what the records are what they're uh if
00:45:53.800
they're withholding anything tell us why and there's a court process for it if we don't like
00:45:59.140
it we can challenge it but at least it's a it's a transparency that we don't have currently uh because
00:46:05.600
of this awful memo that was sent out they need to change their position on it indeed we're already in
00:46:10.480
court i mean just last week they told the court they're looking for and reviewing epstein records
00:46:15.660
from the fbi and justice department just get it done and and have a uh uh uh and the president
00:46:22.120
and my recommendation would be to personally involve himself in this and direct that the
00:46:27.040
foia process proceed to pace meaning quickly you know and on on this deep state issue i think there
00:46:33.040
needs to be a broad investigation initially i keep on hearing there's something coming
00:46:36.980
right oh there's been a referral for the brennan investigation yeah uh comey's under investigation why
00:46:44.260
hasn't comey been arrested it's six months into the administration it's inexcusable that there
00:46:51.300
hasn't been a comprehensive investigation yet no matter what its flavor or color in terms of the
00:46:56.600
fbi or special counsel into the welfare against trump they've been circling around it and if it's
00:47:03.720
happened it's a secret it's it's it's more secretive than the epstein records and i don't believe
00:47:10.020
uh that you can keep a secret like that secret so it ain't happening yet folks it ain't happening
00:47:18.520
but i've you know this isn't my first rodeo i've heard that before we're burning yeah we're burning
00:47:27.640
daylight it needs to announce a special counsel should report to the office of the president not
00:47:31.940
to the justice department tom where do people go to get because you're putting up information all day
00:47:36.740
long sir where do folks go to get it uh they go to judicial watch.org uh judicial watch one word dot
00:47:43.080
oregon of course we're all over social media both me and judicial watch uh we got 650 000 people
00:47:50.600
supporting us not just tuning in writing us checks this is the one of the broadest grassroots movement
00:47:58.160
against government corruption in the history of the country little old judicial watch
00:48:02.860
nope like i said my hundred year old dad that check he sent tom uh tom fitten was the one he says
00:48:10.680
got the best return on investment ever tom fitten appreciate you sir keep fighting
00:48:16.000
we'll be all over this this afternoon jefferson morley is going to the biographer of angleton is going to
00:48:23.280
join us about this blockbuster story yesterday in the washington post we'll get all to it congressman
00:48:27.980
mark harris joins us now congressman harris you're going after the nea with like why are you picking on
00:48:33.820
uh the one group that's made american public school education a a a platinum level that the whole world
00:48:41.600
envies sir why are you picking on them why are you picking on them harris well steve thank you first of
00:48:47.880
all for having me i'm very honored to be with you today but hey listen i think all of the american
00:48:53.300
people agree that uh the nea has gone off the rails and uh we're just stepping out today just
00:49:00.320
completed a press conference just a few minutes ago uh declaring that we are moving forward for
00:49:05.500
congress to actually uh repeal or take away the charter that uh the nea received in 1906 and when
00:49:14.580
you go back and look at how they started or how that charter was granted and here we are uh almost
00:49:21.500
120 years later and they have completely completely gone off the rails and i think the american people
00:49:28.420
see it and recognize it and i think it's time for congress to step up and at least take this very
00:49:34.520
very simple straightforward action of repealing that charter and if what will happen if if and when the
00:49:43.980
charters appeal the charter is repealed what will happen well primarily what it will do is send a
00:49:50.780
message that we are removing the stamp of approval uh that that currently is placed upon anyone that
00:49:58.220
upholds this federal charter and uh it sends a message that the nea has simply uh become a
00:50:05.180
political machine of leftist activists that uh have completely become misguided in everything that
00:50:12.780
they were set out to do from the beginning and um you know it doesn't dissolve the nea they
00:50:19.140
certainly have a right to do what they do or exist but it should certainly remove congress's
00:50:25.360
still of approval that would in any way shape or form uh be mistaken
00:50:30.260
is that your number one concern that if you see this new york city race etc you can see what these
00:50:36.300
folks have done in in these grade schools with these young kids to kind of be to propagandize them
00:50:41.380
that they're really political operations they're not there to just make sure the kids get the best
00:50:45.880
education is that your central beef it is our children are not meant to be in school
00:50:52.020
to be brainwashed they're sent there to be educated and if we are focused more on math and reading and
00:50:59.040
writing and in fact i guess that was one of the things that really got my attention in 2019
00:51:03.840
at their convention they had an opportunity a business item in front of them that basically
00:51:09.880
called for them to and in fact just to show your listeners here it says the national education
00:51:15.560
association will rededicate itself to the pursuit of increased student learning to in every public
00:51:21.880
school in america by putting a renewed emphasis on quality education nea will make student learning
00:51:28.360
the priority of this association and steve they voted that down and and when when they can no longer
00:51:36.120
say that they're going to look out for the best interest of students um they become nothing but the
00:51:42.980
opposite they oppose parent involvement they have they are brainwashing our children with the things
00:51:48.540
that they are propagating through their political activities and furthermore we can no longer put our
00:51:54.060
stamp of approval on a group they're the only a labor union if you will that is federally recognized
00:52:00.060
and and we need to step up and say they don't need this charter it needs to be taken away
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congressman where do people go today right now to get more information about your crusade to take
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the charter away where do they go well i would encourage them to check out moms for liberty moms
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for liberty has been one of the key organizations that has been a great inspiration in all of this
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and i would encourage them to check that out and because they stood with us in the press conference
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and we've got a number of co-sponsors already for this bill and any support and encouragement would be
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helpful congressman mark harris of the great state of north carolina thank you sir thank you for coming
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on the show and thank you for sponsoring this we're going to get everybody to go to the site today and
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check it out and getting back to you so thank you thank you sir ahead mark harris of north carolina
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