Episode 4639： MTG Pushes Bill To Release Epstein Files; Rise Of The Central Bank Digital Currency
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On today's show, Rachel Bovard and Steve Kamb join me to talk about the chaos in the Senate, and the lack of decorum in the process of voting on President Trump's Supreme Court nominee, Emil Bove.
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past jurisdiction and past president. Why are you doing this? This is outrageous. This is a
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Kendraue court. That's what we have here. This is wrong to violate your own rules without going by
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the mandates of the parliamentarian. This is unbelievable. There's a way to do this. If you
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want to force this through, if you want to ram this through, there's a way to do it in accordance
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to the rules as spelled out by the parliamentarian. It is simple. It is clear. There's a pathway to
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achieve what you're trying to achieve. But sir, this lacks decency. It lacks decorum. It shows that
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you do not want to simply hear from your colleagues. This is absolutely wrong. And sir, this
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is to me one of those moments where we are not showing common respect for each other on both
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sides. I have sat here when we were in the majority and listened to my colleagues' arguments,
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listened to their passionate statements, and then we voted. This is not that. This is us simply trying
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to rush through one of the most controversial nominees we've had under this presidential
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administration. Sir, God bless America. You are a good man. You are a decent man. Why are you doing
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this? What is Donald Trump saying to you that are making you do something which is violating
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the decorum of this committee, the rules of this committee, the decency and the respect that we
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have each other to at least hear each other out? I've sat through so many long speeches of my
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colleagues, heard their objections, listened with sincerity to try to see what their arguments are.
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But we are not doing that. Sir, this is wrong. And you know it. There are some people on this
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committee who are the least firebrand people, and they've walked out. Some of the least controversial
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people in the Senate, some of the people that worked the hardest to find bipartisan common ground
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have just walked out of this committee. And you don't even seem to care, but I know you do.
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I know your heart, Senator Grassley. This is wrong. I know the kind of person you are,
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and you know this is wrong. There's no—this is not necessary. What is another half an hour
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to allow senators to be heard? It's what the Constitution mandates. It's the ideals of the
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United States Senate. The world's most deliberative body should take a decent amount of time to
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deliberate. But here we're not doing that. Here we are jamming this through with some sense of false
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urgency. This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going
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medieval on these people. Here's another time I got a free shot at all these networks lying
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about the people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that.
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I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's
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going to happen. And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my
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soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is
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my purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Thursday, 17 July, Year of the Lord, 2025. Rachel Bovard's with us. I'm going to get back
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to Rachel in a moment on this massive scandal about the autopilot. But you saw right there,
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the Senate is now kind of in chaos about the vote for Emil Bove to be an appellate judge. He's one of
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President Trump's top lawyers. And you just saw right there, absolute chaos in the Senate. MTG joins
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us right now. A little bit of chaos in the House. I'm totally confused about kind of what you're voting
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on, what is in, what is out. We hear deals are being made. Then things get voted on and it's not in the
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deal. Let's talk, let's start with the Genius Act. I'm very confused about the Genius Act. I thought
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there was a deal made by the President to make sure that included was going to be the central bank
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digital currency. There'd be no possibility of a backdoor to get that. So where are we?
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Steve, let me explain something. In 1971, we went off of the gold standard. The Federal Reserve did that.
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And we went to cash, a cash society. And the value of the dollar has drastically gone down to the
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buying power is less than 10 cents now from where it was in the 1950s before we went off the gold
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reserve. What's happening today on July 17th in 2025, when no one is paying attention, no one's talking
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about it. Everyone is in blind rage about the Epstein files, and I don't blame them. However, right now,
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what is being voted on today in Congress is the entire setup, groundwork, and entire infrastructure
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being laid to move from cash to digital currency. And the number one thing that is not happening today
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is a ban on a central bank digital currency. This means the ability for the government to take control
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of your digital bank account where all your money is and turn it off. And this is why I'm so upset and
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it's not being talked about. Steve, I was the only no vote on the rule last night. And Congress set a
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record last night, and no one's talking about that either. This was the longest vote held open for a rule
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in history, in history. And it finally shut down sometime around midnight, because there was a deal made and
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the deal will not be honored. It was a deal that Speaker Johnson made. And he said that he would put a ban on
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central bank digital currency in the NDAA. But let me tell you something, that's going to get stripped out in the
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Senate, because what they told us all week long is the Senate does not have the votes to pass a ban on a central bank
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digital currency. So I want to lay this out straight for you all. You never thought in your lifetime that
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the government would shut you down, would close your churches, would close your schools, would close your
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business. And that happened only a few years ago. But what is happening today is the groundwork is being
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laid, and it's all in the name of cryptocurrency and stablecoin. But it is the entire regulatory process
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to switch us from cash to a cashless society to digital currency that can be controlled by the
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federal government. And there will be no ban on a central bank digital currency. There will be
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no way to protect your ability to fully control your digital currency in the future. And I'm voting no to
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this today. I don't know if there'll be any other no votes on the Republican side. But I'm voting no to
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this because I'm a Christian. And I've read the Bible. And I believe what Revelations 13, 16 through
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17 says. And I just cannot vote for a future system that will do that. But it's okay, hang on. But I
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thought at one time, you had a dozen or maybe 25, you had the House Freedom Caucus, plus others that are
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saying, hey, we don't support any possibility of having a central bank digital currency. A lot of them are
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concerned about things in the Genius Act overall, but they're prepared to, you know, say, we'll let
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that go forward. But they're adamant about the central bank digital currency. Where are all the
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other dozen, 20, 24 people that were with you? They remain concerned. Don't get me wrong. My
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colleagues remain. I'm not in the Freedom Caucus. So I'm going to lay that out right there. My colleagues
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remain concerned about a central bank digital currency. As a matter of fact, that was expressed as a
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concern by Republicans in every meeting that I was in. But yet there was no massive effort on a large
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scale to stop a central bank digital currency. It's just this. They were saying, we've got to deliver.
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The president wants us passed. We didn't even know about the Genius Act until Monday. But they're
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saying we have to have this passed. He wants a signing ceremony on Friday. He wants us done. And
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they're willing to push it forward without guaranteeing and passing on the front end. My demand
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is let's do this on the front end. Let's stop the central bank digital currency first. And then let's
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pass this stuff. But no one is willing to do that. They were willing to make deals that I don't believe
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will hold. Because we were told all week, Steve, by everyone, that a ban on CBDC, central bank digital
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currency, will not pass in the Senate. There are not 60 votes for that. So by Johnson putting it in
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the NDAA and saying this is our effort to get it to pass, it doesn't mean that it's going to pass in
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the Senate. They're going to gut it out. We watch them do that with the BBB. They're going to do it
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with Clarity, the other Bitcoin, the regulatory, the market regulatory bill that will pass today.
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They do this all the time. And the House constantly gets jammed. And here's one thing that really makes
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me angry, Steve. This was a closed rule. Johnson did not allow us to make amendments to the Genius
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Act, to make an amendment to put a ban on CBDC in the Genius Act. We were told, you don't have a right
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to amendments. You don't get to do your legislative process anymore. You just have to vote on it. And they
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forced it through making what I think is a fake deal. And I wish the Freedom Caucus had held,
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but they didn't. They want to work and they want to pass the president's agenda. And I do too.
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But I'm not willing to go along with the pathway to a central bank digital currency in a cashless
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society where none of us can control our money. Because I don't trust the government. And no one
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else should trust the government. And just because this administration is committed to that doesn't
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mean that a future administration will not lock down our bank accounts if we are not doing and
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saying what they want us to do. We've already been there. That was the past four years. I don't want
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to ever go back to that. And I don't want that future for my children, Steve. And so I am upset today.
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I'm adamantly no to this. And I wish I had more Republicans standing with me.
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One last thing before you go, also, with all these votes coming on today,
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is did seven or eight or nine Republicans join Ro Khanna in co-sponsoring? I saw Birchett's name,
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Eli Crane, Burleson's, yours, some of the hardest core Trump supporters.
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Me too. Me too. I'm one. I'm a co-sponsor. I'm a co-sponsor.
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So your co-sponsor, what is the legislation? What's the legislation? What's the amendment?
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It's legislation. It's a bill that will call for the DOJ to release the Epstein files. I was the
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first co-sponsor with Thomas Massey. It's a bill and we've got to do a discharge petition.
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So we have to get 218 to sign the discharge petition. We can pull it out and force a vote
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on the floor. Look, I think this is the right thing to do. Transparency, no matter what,
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whatever the information is, we figure it out when it comes out. But when it comes to the most
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famous pedophile in our modern day history that ran in circles with the most rich, elite and powerful
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people in the world, yeah, I think America deserves to know.
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And when would that, can that actually come to a vote? I guess you're going to do a discharge
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position so they can't lock you guys up in the rules. Would that come to a vote today or tomorrow?
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No, it won't because it takes seven days with the discharge petition. And so that,
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I believe that would go into next week, but I don't even know if we're going to be in session
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next week. There's a rumor that it may get canceled, but I'm not confirmed on that.
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MTG, where do people go on social media and your website? Because you're in the middle of
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a number of different fights that people are going to want more information about. Where do they go?
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Rep MTG. And Steve, let me tell you, you guys need to start paying attention to this. Digital
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currency is where we lose control of our money. And I'm afraid nobody's paying attention to it.
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Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you. Appreciate you giving everybody a heads up on this.
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The central bank digital currency, that would be the Federal Reserve's digital currency.
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Rachel Bovard, thank you for giving us some time here to get MTG up before she had to go back to
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the House. You saw what happened in the Senate. I mean, this is right now, this is as knockdown
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drag out as you can get. Why have the Republicans not taking something that is so egregious about all
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these decisions that were made and we don't know actually who made them? And Joe Biden's kind of
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confessed that. Why have we not nationalized this, ma'am?
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Well, I think it's a huge failure on the part of Republicans. They are committed to process and
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doing these depositions and going through the orderly way of doing things. This is a national
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scandal and they need to be treating it this way. Do you think Liz Cheney was waiting to the end of
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the J6 investigation to nationalize it? No, absolutely not. The J6 standard for this stuff
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is you do your hearings in prime time, you hire cable news producers to produce the entire thing for you,
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and you leak selective elements of, you know, these transcripts that make your opposition look
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as guilty as possible and expose the layers of the syndicate that were running the White House
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on behalf of Joe Biden. Who do you recommend? Who's driving this in the House or the Senate?
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Anyone right now? Jamie Comer is leading this investigation and House oversight. He's doing
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a good job, right? He's doing a thorough job. But at the end of the day, this is a stalling operation
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by these Biden employees. They are trying to wait it out. It is a calculated gamble to push this out
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until the midterms to see if the House flips control and Democrats make this go away. Or,
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and I hate to say this, but they are waiting until Joe Biden dies. And in that case, they can just claim
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this investigation is unseemly. Republicans cannot let them do this. They have to force these
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individuals. They have to grant them immunity. Either the committee and the House can do it at
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simple majority, or they need to tell DOJ to do it, but they need to take this Fifth Amendment
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excuse away from these witnesses and force them to testify. Because this is, you know,
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a scandal of massive proportions and goes to the heart of what representative government means.
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Where do people go on social media to get your writings, ma'am?
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You can find me on Twitter, at Rachel Bovard, and in The Federalist.
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We are going to push this article because Rachel Bovard is on to something big.
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Okay, Michael Grunwald joins us now, a kind of a blockbuster book. We are eating the earth,
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the race to fix our food system and save our climate. As you know, with Nicole Shanahan and
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Bobby Kennedy and others to make America healthy again and Nicole is at the leading thing about
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agriculture department and how we eat and you can, you know, the thesis of this is that you can cut
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all the expense of big pharma and stop all this over-vaccination and all these drugs if we eat
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healthier. Your book is kind of a, I don't know if it's a thing of hope or slap in the face, but
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basically your thesis is as before we reach peak, um, population start to shrink as we go to about
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10 billion people, I think we're over eight now. Uh, the very process of modern big agriculture of how
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we are, how we feed ourselves and particularly how we feed developing nations in the process of doing
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that. So people don't starve. You're saying we actually have the potential to destroy earth
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systems. So you don't have a livable planet. Is that essentially the one of the central thesis of
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the book? Yeah, that's right, Steve. I mean, right now already two of every five acres of this planet
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are cropped and grazed, right? I mean, we have turned a natural planet into an agricultural planet
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and it's fine. We got to eat, right? But by 2050, we're on track to deforest another dozen California's
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worth of land. And we just don't have another dozen California's worth of forest. So I know a lot of
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your, a lot of your listeners, they care a lot about the earth. Uh, they care a lot about the planet.
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And right now agriculture is really the big threat to, uh, not only, you know, the climate stuff, but, uh,
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but biodiversity, water pollution, you know, water shortages, agriculture uses 70% of our land.
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So, uh, it really is a, it is a challenge that this is, hang on. I think this is what's shocking
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people. Most people in the way the climate guys have pushed things is that everything's it's
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industrialization and additional manufacturing. And now, uh, the power for artificial intelligence
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is massive power needs. We need, you know, the meta guys are building, uh, a, a, uh, a data center.
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That's the size of Manhattan down in Louisiana. People believe it's that you come out and say,
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Hey, that's bad, but that's not what's driving. It's actually, uh, feeding ourselves is what's
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doing it. And I take it. You're saying the forest, cause the United States looks like we're getting
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more forest or the forests are growing all the time. Are you talking about the rainforest in Brazil
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in, in, in, in that area of the world? Yeah, that's a big part of it. We're essentially kind
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of outsourcing our deforestation, right? Cause we already, you know, Indiana used to be 85% forest
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and, uh, you know, we already tore down our Amazon. Um, but it's true. And right now you hear a lot
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from both on the left, from the kind of Bernie Sanders and, uh, you know, Cory Booker types. I saw
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you just had him on, but also some on the right from, uh, from Joe Rogan or, uh, or Robert Kennedy Jr.
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this idea that, Oh, well, we just need these kinds of twee organic farms with no chemicals.
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Um, and, uh, and there are some nice things about that, but if you're making less food per acre,
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you're going to need a lot more acres to make food. And that's essentially going to eat more
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of the earth. That's, that's really what I'm talking about. So these, these things are complicated
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in Sri Lanka, they banned all these agrochemicals. And I understand why people don't like the fertilizers
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and they don't like the pesticides, but the fertilizers help stuff grow. And the pesticides are
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pretty good at killing pests. And in Sri Lanka, they had incredible food shortages. The government
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fell. Um, there were massive riots. Uh, you know, this is, this is not the future that we want.
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Hold it. This is what, because you're, you're still contributing to the New York times
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and in the book, correct me if I'm wrong, you actually make a case for certain GMOs.
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Are you, cause this is why I want people to read the book because it's not the kind of left,
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right debate we've had. It's totally different. You're arguing for pesticides. You're arguing for
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fertilizer. You're actually also arguing for certain GMOs. Yeah. Again, there's a, there's
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really no evidence that they're harmful to your, to your health. I mean, I think a lot of things that
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people eat like Twinkies have GMOs in them, but they're not unhealthy because they're GMOs. They're
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unhealthy because they're Twinkies, you know, they're junk food. And, uh, and I do think the,
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some GMOs have really been overhyped, but in the future, as you start gene editing, if you can
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gene edit crops to have higher yields, to be more drought tolerant, heat tolerant,
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that's not a left wing or a right wing thing. That's just a common sense. Let's make more food
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with less land things so that we don't have to tear down the Amazon and drain all these wetlands
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and create these problems that are unnecessary.
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So small because of efficiency or effectiveness, one of the issues that the MAGA movement is taking
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on is big agriculture. We've had this whole problem with big agriculture now pushing for
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amnesty for, for, uh, keeping these, uh, kind of indentured servants below, uh, minimum wage or
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below a wage they can live on. And they want more, they want amnesty for this. So big agriculture has
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kind of come in the target set of not just Bobby Kennedy, but really Nicole Shanahan has become the
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leading voice on this and was adamant when these selections were made to the department of
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agriculture. You've gone through this and you're, I'm not saying you're critical, but you make the
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observations that all this great stuff about organic farming, all this can't, you can't get the yields.
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You can't get the scale you need to feed people. So you actually come down on the side of big
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Well, I think people are right to complain about the political power of big ag, right? I had a piece
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in the New York times about this the other day, how it's absurd, the kind of billions of dollars
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that we're throwing at really well-off farmers so that they can buy a new Ford F-150 every year.
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Um, and there's really no strings attached. So it's just, and around the world, there's $600
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billion worth of agricultural subsidies every year that, uh, you know, that really makes their
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difference. It makes no difference for, for anyone except for those farmers. It's just coming out of
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our pockets. And I think farmers get all kinds of exemptions from regulations, not just environmental
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regulations, but in the United States, even the regulations for, you know, how many hours a truck
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driver can, can drive. There's an exemption, an exemption if they're making agricultural deliveries.
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So they're pretty much the most powerful lobby in Washington. And I get why people do it. And I get
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why people don't like factory farms, right? They treat people badly. They treat animals badly.
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They, they make a big mess. Um, but one thing factories do really well is manufacture a lot
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of stuff and we're going to have to manufacture more food over the next 30 years than we've
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manufactured over the last 12,000. So my, my case is sort of like, Hey, it's, you know, whether
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you're big or small, we need you to manufacture a lot of food, but you just got to do it with less
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mess. Hold it. Walk us through that number again. We're going to have to produce or manufacture
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more food over the next 30 years than we've done in the previous 12,000.
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That's right. That's right. We're going to have to do about 50% more food than we're making now.
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And again, this we're already making way more than we have, uh, since the green revolution,
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uh, we've tripled our yield. So if it wasn't for all these chemicals and advanced seeds and, uh,
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you know, fertilizers and irrigation, um, we would need three times as much land to, uh, to make the
00:23:56.600
amount of food that we're using today to feed 8 billion people to feed 10 billion. Uh, we're
00:24:01.540
going to need a lot more food. We're going to need a lot more meat. And of course people hate when I
00:24:05.360
say this, but, uh, beef is a spectacularly inefficient form of nutrition for us where we're
00:24:11.520
eating. We're, we're getting about 3% of our calories from beef and it's using half of our
00:24:16.260
agricultural land. So again, you know, these, uh, no, I'm not going to be popular with this book
00:24:21.400
and, uh, you know, with the left, with the right, you know, left wingers, right wingers,
00:24:24.940
Buffalo wingers, nobody's going to like this. Um, but I'm just trying to spit some facts, you know,
00:24:30.000
that's, that's where I had you on when I read it. I go, this guy, everybody's going to hate this guy.
00:24:35.100
So what is, so what is your recommend? Well, a lot of people may hate read it. Um, what is your
00:24:44.000
recommendation? Look, America farming is the backbone of the country culturally in the myth
00:24:50.600
of America, our founding today. Uh, what's your recommendation for, and it's also obviously today,
00:24:57.160
huge industry. What's your recommendation for the United States and going forward here, sir?
00:25:01.580
Right. Well, I think, uh, again, like we do, uh, you know, they, they do remind us of this a lot,
00:25:08.160
but it's true. We owe our farmers a great debt, right? They, uh, they make it that the 1% of us
00:25:13.920
who farm make it. So the other 90% of us can have awesome radio shows and write awesome books about,
00:25:19.840
you know, the problems in agriculture and be doctors and bankers and influencers. And you, Nate,
00:25:24.720
you have it. Um, you know, our food does not just miraculously materialize on our grocery shelves.
00:25:30.500
Um, and so we should have respect for them. And in fact, in the United States, we should honor the,
00:25:35.400
the very efficient way that they make our food. And we should encourage the rest of the world to
00:25:39.700
be more like us. And we should be trying to export our food to the rest of the world. But what we
00:25:44.240
should not be doing is just giving them a lot of money and just saying here, we're giving this money
00:25:48.020
because we love you. And because you have great heartland values, we should be attaching some
00:25:52.220
strings to it and saying like, Hey, we want to help you make even more food, but you've got to do it
00:25:56.700
with less land and making less of a mess. Do you think in the United States, how much, how much land
00:26:03.800
is turned to agriculture today? And what would you recommend? You're actually saying take land back
00:26:09.080
from the farmers and what, turn it, turn it back into forest. Not really in the United States, right?
00:26:14.720
Because we're so efficient, but if we can make even more food, and by the way, I will point out,
00:26:19.780
stop using 40 million acres of corn in the middle of the country, like some of the best farmland in the
00:26:25.100
country, and put it into our cars, which is really absurd and just makes, you know, our gasoline and
00:26:31.960
our food more expensive, these biofuels like corn ethanol. I think we want them to make even more food
00:26:38.260
that they can export it for the rest of the rest of the world, so that they don't have to tear down their
00:26:42.460
forests and drain their wetlands. Because honestly, in the United States, that ship already sailed.
00:26:47.380
Michael, where do they get you? What's your social media, and where do people get the book?
00:26:54.300
I'm at Mike Grunwald on X, and you can find my book, you know, wherever books are sold on Amazon,
00:27:03.940
on Barnes and Noble, and, you know, or at your local bookstore. And I really appreciate you having
00:27:10.460
me on, Steve. I think this is, you know, I want everybody to hear this message, because it's not
00:27:16.060
getting out there. And a lot of the only people who seem to care about sustainable farming have
00:27:21.440
been like way left, and putting out these, I think, really absurd ideas. So I think these are
00:27:28.140
the rest of the rest of the country needs to start grappling with this stuff. And even though it's
00:27:32.640
true that a lot of people might hate the book, I grappled.
00:27:35.480
No, no, no. But are you going to debate like the GMO people? You have some people here that,
00:27:42.100
like GMO, it's a religious conviction. Are you going to get on a stage and debate the GMO people?
00:27:47.960
You would have loved this. At Berkeley, I did a debate with this kind of big agroecology guy.
00:27:52.860
And you know Alice Waters, the big organic chef in San Francisco, charges like $500 a plate.
00:27:59.220
She was sitting in the third row, just like glaring at me the whole time. It was great.
00:28:04.020
Grunwald, you're making a lot of enemies on this book. That's why it should be read. Thank you so
00:28:11.560
much for taking time to join us today in the war room. I appreciate it, Steve. I'm back anytime.
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I definitely recommend you read the Grunwald book. He's taken incoming from both sides. And he's
00:30:02.080
actually making a case that hasn't been made, I think, by a major person that, you know, things
00:30:08.300
you don't have fertilizers, pesticides, GMOs, et cetera, which have been kind of trashed for decades.
00:30:15.400
He's actually making a case that if you want to feed humanity, you got to get serious about that.
00:30:20.300
He take it. Look, he he's the books far from perfect. And but he's taken incoming. He just said
00:30:26.580
right there at Berkeley where he had the, you know, the organic, the perfect those for the foodies,
00:30:33.080
those restaurants is $500 a plate because the food is, you know, farmed a table and absolutely
00:30:38.460
made with pure rainwater and all that. She was glaring at him for what he had to say. So anyway,
00:30:43.560
it's interesting read. But remember, as he said, we're going to have to produce. So if mankind
00:30:48.680
doesn't starve, you're going to have to produce in the next, what, 50 years more food than we've
00:30:53.980
produced in the previous 12,000. So it's just about scale. Alex Jones joins us. Alex, first off,
00:31:02.240
you have been, I think, the first to warn the nation about the issue of digital currency and
00:31:07.480
particularly a central bank digital currency. It looks like today that President Trump wrote an
00:31:13.800
executive order about digital currency. One of the things people said, hey, it doesn't it doesn't
00:31:18.940
shut down the possibility of central bank digital currency. The Genius Act didn't do it. They've
00:31:23.960
got a deal that they're going to slip something in the NDAA, but that may not pass the Senate.
00:31:29.520
Just can you give your overall, the audience, your overall observations when it comes to the
00:31:35.440
potential dangers of a central bank digital currency, sir? It's really hard to overstate how dangerous it
00:31:45.460
is. It is literally the mark of the beast system, a global social credit score, the ESG corporate
00:31:53.880
governance systems right down into your smart devices, your phone, the smart appliances, the AI,
00:32:01.180
surveilling everyone in live time. As you know, China's already had it in place about seven years.
00:32:07.020
Ground robots, drones being directed by it. The goal is you can't leave one foot outside your house,
00:32:13.120
to quote the Chinese communist government. If you're not in good standing, you can't get on a
00:32:19.020
train, you can't rent a car, you can't rent a hotel, you can't have a job. And the UN, the WF and others
00:32:25.020
for decades, and Bill Gates has been heavily involved, have already created the standardization
00:32:29.680
for this with China for a global rollout of central bank digital currencies that the nations then
00:32:35.180
comport to, and essentially it'll end up being one big global corporate new currency that would
00:32:42.740
replace the dollar. So Trump wisely in the last few years said he is against any central bank digital
00:32:46.800
currency system, and he would oppose one foreign, which is basically what the BRICS is forming,
00:32:53.640
and that he would oppose one here. And he has supported Bitcoin and things that actually diversify
00:32:58.780
currencies to the public that are free and open and open source and a competing market
00:33:06.020
of currencies, which is the answer. And so it's really the ring of Sauron to bind everybody together
00:33:14.540
with total control. And we have the head of the IMF and the World Bank and the International Bank of
00:33:20.600
Settlements and the head of the UN and all of them. We have Tedros, the head of the WHO, saying,
00:33:26.160
we need a global central bank digital currency to control everything you do to lock you down
00:33:32.880
during new pandemics they've got planned. This is the mechanism. It'll be your internet ID.
00:33:38.900
It'll do everything. And if we think as populist and conservatives and Christians and common sense
00:33:43.980
people that we've been debanked and harassed as conservatives before, this is exponentially more
00:33:51.780
dangerous. And the big international banks that the Federal Reserve is part of, private,
00:33:58.300
they have said this is their holy grail. And they're really, really trying to roll it out.
00:34:03.780
And so the fact that there is a pathway to this with a digital central bank digital currency dollar
00:34:12.400
in this genius act, and that only MTG and you and a few others have been exposing it,
00:34:17.420
is a nightmare. But 11th hour, we shot down, thanks to you and others exposing it, when they had
00:34:27.080
mainly pro votes for it, a large majority were supporting the AI liability protection for 10 years
00:34:37.980
from the states and individuals, where AI would basically be above the law and could do whatever
00:34:43.700
it wanted. That was just a blank check. We were able to then shoot that down in the big, beautiful
00:34:51.700
bill, 99 to one vote. And so I think as we expose this section of the genius act, I believe that we
00:35:04.720
can probably get that pulled out as well, because I would imagine, you know, Trump sticks to his guns
00:35:09.940
and understands this. And I don't think that Trump probably even knows about this at this point.
00:35:14.300
You might go have lunch with him again and update him on what's happening. But I think if we cause a
00:35:19.700
big enough stink about this, we can shoot this down. But at the end of the day, it's a threat to the
00:35:25.040
dollar. Yeah, they say they're going to put it in, they've committed to put it in the House version,
00:35:32.000
the NDA, where they pass the Senate, but this thing's going to be a fight for the next couple of
00:35:36.080
weeks. But once again, you're saying, hey, this is something we can't even let the possibility of
00:35:41.620
happening because there's so many vested interests that want it to happen.
00:35:47.140
Absolutely. I mean, I'm sure you've seen the clips, but it's all the big UN officials. It's all the
00:35:52.220
central bank heads. It's every time they have a DABOS meeting, it's constant. They say, oh, we're going
00:35:59.360
to control where you go and what you do. And we're going to carbon tax you with this and vaccine
00:36:05.260
passports. And we're going to track how much meat you eat. And then you'll have an allotment of how
00:36:09.500
much you're even allowed to buy. And it's just exponentially bad. We know under Biden, they hired
00:36:14.920
87,000 new IRS agents to target blue collar workers to crush the economy. And it came out,
00:36:20.120
they were using AI with no warrants in live time with all the big banks watching everybody's
00:36:25.900
transactions. And then a waiter that didn't pay 5,000 dollars in taxes for tips over a year gets
00:36:33.020
hit by the IRS. No warrants, nothing. That's just a small window into what this would be like. But
00:36:39.180
everything being tracked in live time, as you know, two years ago, they passed the bill. It was already
00:36:43.260
in all the new cars for a decade. But the Biden administration signed off on it and pushed it
00:36:48.400
that all the new cars track you in live time and have cameras and microphones embedded watching and
00:36:55.200
listening to you reporting back. And they admit this is a plan for road taxing by the federal
00:37:03.000
government. And so I remember 20 years ago, when the smart meters came out, the industry said, oh,
00:37:08.600
we're going to use this to control your meters, you know, for the environment and the earth. People
00:37:13.120
said, oh, they'll never do that. And now the last five years, California, Colorado, you name it,
00:37:18.020
people get notices on their phone. And it says on the smart meter, and it says on the smart
00:37:22.660
thermostat that's connected to the smart meter that they're controlling in your house, hey,
00:37:27.000
we're turning the AC from, you know, 75 up to 85, because it's for the earth. I mean, this,
00:37:40.760
The media, I kept this morning, the media is reporting that you've divorced yourself from
00:37:45.320
President Trump. I think it's probably farthest from the truth. Can you just explain to the audience
00:37:51.400
for a second, this Epstein situation and your ongoing relationship with the president and
00:37:57.500
supporting his policies and him? Absolutely. I'd love to clarify that. CNN, Wall Street Journal,
00:38:05.160
you know, the front of Drudge was based on the Democrat Party mouthpiece. You know, Jones divorces
00:38:09.640
Trump. Trump divorces him and his other, and anybody else that questions Epstein. That is totally not
00:38:15.100
true. They've taken little short clips out of context as they always do. I love the president.
00:38:22.460
He has incredible courage. He's getting so much done on the economy, the border, national security.
00:38:26.340
They're really ramping up deportations. They're now found 30,000 of the missing children and
00:38:31.400
prosecutions are beginning. They've fired Maureen Comey that ran with her father, the Epstein case
00:38:38.200
cover-ups on record. So we're really seeing a lot of traction. And in many ways, Trump's doing
00:38:43.560
better than I thought he would do in his first 170 days. But the PR handling of this now 12 days ago,
00:38:50.200
when they slip out this memo to Axios, the globalist mouthpiece, and say he didn't,
00:39:02.200
Epstein wasn't murdered. There was no blackmail rings. Basically, Epstein didn't basically even
00:39:10.260
jaywalk. And none of this exists. This needs to go away. That's a 180 from everything that the record
00:39:17.640
shows and what Trump and his surrogates have been saying that they were going to do. And I simply
00:39:22.860
said, this is a disaster. And I said, I believe Trump just wants to move on from this. And I said
00:39:27.780
that last Monday, when it was all breaking, I surmised that we know the Democrats have had
00:39:33.260
this file. They're not going to leave stuff in there that incriminates them. And the whole history
00:39:38.360
of it, it's 90 plus percent Democrats and globalists like Bill Gates, you know, that are heavily involved
00:39:42.620
in the island and all the, you know, stuff that's going on. And so as soon as the FBI raided back in
00:39:48.620
March, the New York FBI, when they wouldn't turn over the files, I believe that was a setup.
00:39:54.520
And they dropped a dime on themselves and said, oh, there's 14 terabytes
00:39:57.600
of all these kids being raped and Epstein raping him and all the rest of it. And then
00:40:02.000
Pam Bondi gets it, gives it to the FBI, which I confirmed from sources. They sent it out to all
00:40:06.260
the offices around the country to look at the file. They come back and say, oh, there's a bunch of
00:40:11.060
FBI reports and implicating, you know, people in the orbit of Trump with no real evidence.
00:40:17.240
And then Trump went, what the hell? Another Russiagate. And so he didn't clarify that the first few days.
00:40:24.640
He just said, you know, people need to basically shut this down. It's bull.
00:40:28.320
And then he hasn't really clarified when he says it's a hoax. It's a Democrat hoax. He's not saying
00:40:34.140
that the Epstein isn't a bad guy and that he wasn't involved in all this evil stuff with the
00:40:38.880
deep state with no connections to Trump that are based in any reality. He just says, it's a hoax.
00:40:44.860
People go, well, wait, Epstein's not a hoax. His lane was convicted of this very stuff. And he'd been
00:40:50.440
charged with it and was convicted once 15, 16 years ago of lesser charges in Florida.
00:40:54.640
So Trump, I think, needs to be very clear that, no, the Epstein case and the evil he did
00:41:01.160
is very real, but they've been in control of this file, Brennan, Clapper, and all the rest of them.
00:41:07.640
And it makes total sense that they falsified all these other records, the Crossfire Hurricane,
00:41:14.240
the Steele dossier, all run by Obama, Clapper, Brennan.
00:41:16.960
Hang on. Are we going to get into the back of that by having a special prosecutor? I mean,
00:41:22.700
they're supposed to declassify certain documents today. We know they had, D&I had a big meeting,
00:41:28.020
I think, on Sunday to talk about declassification. Is that whole criminal conspiracy against Trump
00:41:34.980
for the last 10 years? Because this is kind of part of it. Is that going to be exposed? And you think that
00:41:41.000
that deserves a special prosecutor immediately so we can kind of get on with it? Because the
00:41:46.180
Justice Department is overwhelmed with defending President Trump against 175 lawsuits that come in,
00:41:52.400
FBI is overwhelmed. Do you need a special prosecutor to get to the core heart of it,
00:41:59.200
Absolutely. I've been calling for a special prosecutor
00:42:03.080
since he was president-elect. I knew this was going to become a big issue. The Democrats that
00:42:07.840
never wanted any Epstein information released in the previous 15 years, now they want, quote,
00:42:13.320
it all released because they were in control of all the investigations with Comey at the top,
00:42:17.760
his daughter, down at the ground level, literally being given all the cases to limit it only to lower
00:42:24.160
charges and keep it away from Epstein's handlers. And so exactly. Here's the bottom
00:42:29.120
line. It makes perfect sense. And that's their past MO. And that's what the globalists and Brennan
00:42:36.620
and Comey and Clapper that ran all these other hoaxes have done that, of course, whatever they left
00:42:42.680
in the files that the Trump DOJ was finally able to get is going to cover up anything they did and
00:42:49.800
then put a bunch of disinfo and FBI reports and Jane Doe's that have already turned out to be fake,
00:42:54.840
a rehash of all of that kind of E. Gene Carroll type garbage. And then Trump, when they came back
00:43:01.820
and reported to him a few months ago, what the hell are you talking about? Oh my God, it's another
00:43:06.520
Russia hoax. And then he's all pissed off about it. And then I just don't think he handled it
00:43:12.080
very, very well. It needs to be specific. And yes, a special prosecutor. I called for that again last
00:43:19.340
week. I called for it in the last few days. Now we know that Solomon and others, very respected
00:43:24.060
journalists, have talked to Trump. He says, indeed, that's what he wants. And so that's great. But
00:43:29.640
don't, you know, have Cash Patel and Bongino two months ago try to get ahead of this when they found
00:43:37.500
out, oh my God, these files have been set up. Alex, hang on one second. We're holding you through the
00:43:44.660
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The Alex Jones, they've talked about this grand criminal conspiracy against Trump over a decade,
00:45:13.980
and that is what they're focused on. You see these leaks about Brennan and Comey. I understand that
00:45:19.620
they're talking about a special prosecutor of that so they can bundle it all up and have somebody go
00:45:24.260
through this systematically. Do you agree with that thesis, that that's what they should do?
00:45:30.640
Well, you and I have been saying that for years, and so has General Flynn and others. It is an absolute
00:45:35.540
maximum imperative. We have them with Crossfire Hurricane. We have the documents released by the
00:45:41.300
CIA director and the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard. We have them. It's open
00:45:45.480
and shut, directed by Obama, and all they've got to do is bring in Clapper for questioning. He's the
00:45:52.080
weak link. He will sing like a canary. It must be done. This deep state has committed treason against
00:45:57.640
this country. They stole the 2020 election. They ran all these other hoaxes that were attempting coups
00:46:03.420
against our republic. They set us up on J6. They've done all of these things, and they've been in control
00:46:09.400
of the Epstein cover-up. They obviously put whatever now the DOJ discovered in there that
00:46:14.960
has enraged Trump. I totally believe Trump makes perfect sense. That's all these people have done,
00:46:19.720
and so they have to turn it around against them. They have to be specific about why Trump's saying
00:46:25.180
it's a setup. The files are full of fake BS. They need to have press conferences. They need to go to
00:46:30.640
full war, and more stuff like firing Marine Comey, who, for those that don't know, was given all the
00:46:37.260
Epstein cases and the Diddy cases and all this to limit it and keep the deep state connections
00:46:42.040
and intelligence agency connections out of it. So this has been horribly managed. I need Trump to
00:46:48.080
succeed. Our lives, our country, our future, the West, the world depends on it, and so when I see
00:46:53.900
somebody that's so important to the world, the most important person in the world right now,
00:46:59.180
making horrible decisions and creating the ultimate Streisand effect, when they had months
00:47:07.180
and months and months ago, the binders and phase one, well, where's phase two, and then we're going
00:47:12.160
to get to the bottom of it, and there's a cover-up, and then we're told nothing happened. You're not a
00:47:17.260
MAGA supporter. If you don't shut up, don't ask questions. That is exactly what I'd do if I wanted
00:47:23.280
to hand the Democrats a total victory. These people are routed. Their poll number's the lowest ever.
00:47:28.560
Their fundraising has flatlined. It's game over if we press the attack, and America wants
00:47:35.820
indictments. We don't just want the head of the FBI in New York to cover it up, the files
00:47:39.920
fired. We want him arrested. We want him indicted. We want Maureen Comey and her father, who perjured
00:47:46.500
himself to Congress and admitted he did, over and over and over again. These people declared war on
00:47:52.400
America. We accepted the challenge. We've taken the major beachhead. We're winning, but now we've got
00:47:58.140
to press the attack now because our enemies are cornered, vicious rats, and now is the time. It is
00:48:04.720
existential, and Ed Martin that they fear, I believe, is the man to not just lead the government
00:48:10.660
weaponization task force and the head pardon lawyer, but he is the man. They should give him a $5 billion
00:48:15.860
budget to go to war with the deep state, and Trump should call his cabinet in today and tell his
00:48:22.500
director of national intelligence and the CIA, Ratcliffe, and all of them, I want in a week, I want all my
00:48:29.820
powers spelled out. I want all the powers you have spelled out constitutionally. I want all this
00:48:35.380
information that we know is cut and dry, and I want indictments now. I want to go on the attack
00:48:48.980
And just to reiterate that, Cory Booker just led a walkout in the Senate floor with chaos at the
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committee meeting to approve and confirm Emil Bovey as an appellate judge. My point is they're
00:49:00.520
at war. They're not going to back off. They just put a statement out. I think that they're not going
00:49:04.200
to confirm any other judges. They're going to go through, grind the Senate to a halt on any more
00:49:08.720
confirmation. So it couldn't be clearer. We've got to go to war with these people, and might as well
00:49:12.800
have it now. Alex Jones, brilliant assessment. Where do people get your show? Where do they get you on
00:49:17.840
social media? They've been trying to shut you down aggressively for the last two or three years. How do
00:49:22.720
people get you? Real Alex Jones on X. I'm also on Rumble, infowars.com forward slash show, and
00:49:30.660
major update. I know we don't have time. I know Lindell's coming up, but they appointed a receiver
00:49:35.800
at the same Democrat state judge court that ran the show trial because the federal judge wouldn't
00:49:40.440
shut down Infowars. So now they've appointed a receiver to try to shut us down in the next two
00:49:44.760
weeks. We're blocking it, but you're right. And Paul Weiss law firm that confessed in their own
00:49:50.120
words criminal activity against Trump and said they'd pay a $40 million restitution for it.
00:49:56.140
They're the law firm running all of this when they promised Trump to stop lawfare against him and his
00:50:01.040
supporters. No, they're saying that they have backed off, but they have not backed off. And if
00:50:06.880
they're still attacking me, you know behind the scenes they're attacking Trump. And so I know Ed
00:50:10.660
Martin and others are looking into that as well. But Paul Weiss and these groups are in a criminal,
00:50:15.520
in my view, opinion, conspiracy against the American people and waging war on us.
00:50:28.180
By the way, real quickly, you said in the next two weeks, they're going to try to shut down
00:50:31.300
Infowars again, this whole fiasco we went through about six months ago.
00:50:36.000
Yes, they tried four times last year, had a fake auction, said that Bloomberg backed Onion bought it,
00:50:41.900
and then it wasn't a real auction. The federal judge said this is a fraud. And then they had the
00:50:46.640
U.S. trustee from the DOJ, and the judge fired the last one. They had the new one come in here
00:50:54.160
just three months, four months ago, and turn the internet off and say, kick us out of the building
00:51:00.160
with no court order. We went and blocked that. And so the federal judge is saying, listen,
00:51:05.300
you can sell Infowars, and we have big buyers that will give them a bunch of money.
00:51:09.980
And they say in filings, we don't want money, we want him off the air. And the federal judge says,
00:51:14.460
you don't get that in, quote, restitution. Plus, my cases are all on appeal. The Third Circuit in
00:51:19.620
Texas, who are Democrats, signaled they're going to overturn the judgment. Even Bloomberg reported
00:51:23.620
that. So they're in big trouble. And so they need this win to paper over the insane behavior. In fact,
00:51:31.160
today I'm exposing the biggest news yet. And that's a whole other subject, Steve, in this. But
00:51:36.580
we discovered not just DOJ money to the original law firms that started all this and Democrat Party
00:51:42.760
groups with Senator Blumenthal's operation in Connecticut. Then when they give the DOJ money
00:51:50.460
to the, quote, Sandy Hook charities, the people suing me, as soon as they're given millions of
00:51:55.240
dollars, within one week of that, then the law firms bill those people that exact amount and are
00:52:01.940
given the exact amount of the DOJ money. Yeah. I'll grab you after the show. We want to have
00:52:07.740
you back on, Amargo, through all this. They can't shut down InfoWars, can't shut down Alex Jones. Alex,
00:52:12.440
thank you. Fighting the good fight. Wow. Unbelievable what they're doing to me. Mike Lindell,
00:52:19.400
sell me a pillow, a set of sheets, whatever you got, brother. We're ready to buy.
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