In this episode, we pick up where we left off with Isaac Stonefish, an expert in corporate sellouts. We discuss the impact of Tesla's decision to hand over its chips to the Chinese Communist Party, and the implications for U.S. tech companies in China.
00:01:50.440And this was one of the major concessions thus far that we've given during the trade war.
00:01:55.820I think the reporting has been that it's sort of a retaliatory thing or just part of the back and forth over particularly the rare earths, which, of course, China dominates to the tune of 90%, at least on the processing side.
00:02:06.960But I think that this, at least in my opinion, is sort of an unforced error in terms of a concession because it's such not only a critical space, but it's also something that we have the upper hand in.
00:02:18.080So I just find David Sachs and that crowds mentality that the reason why we need to hand over these chips to the Chinese Communist Party is so we can retain an edge.
00:02:30.140If you just sort of want to pick up where you left off and maybe even more to the point, you know, what you would advise in terms of probably locking down a lot of these exports even more.
00:02:41.340So the question is, where is the U.S.-China relationship going?
00:02:47.460And if the U.S. and China do go to war, what does that mean for U.S. companies that have worked with the Chinese Communist Party, both from a regulatory and reputational risk perspective, but also from how do we make sure that they're aligned with the U.S. side if something like that happens?
00:03:08.300And so my worry with what NVIDIA is doing, my worry with what Microsoft has done is if we are setting the stage for wide scale decoupling, why are these companies still so exposed to China and the Communist Party?
00:03:22.680So what I would advise, you know, both for friends in the U.S. government and also for the companies themselves, is to know what your exposure to China is and work on ways that you can reduce it and to stop buying the same horse, so to speak.
00:03:38.160Stop thinking that by strengthening the Chinese Communist Party by selling them technology, you're in some way helping America leapfrog.
00:03:47.940That argument didn't work 10 years ago and it shouldn't work today.
00:03:50.760And last question before I let you go, just your sort of bird's eye perspective on the overview of how the trade war, though I don't like that term, is going.
00:04:01.600These tariffs, are they giving us an advantage against the Chinese Communist Party or are a lot of these concessions perhaps detrimental?
00:04:09.100My biggest frustration with the narrative around tariffs is forgetting all of the various trade barriers that China holds up to foreign companies.
00:04:21.080So there's this perception now that the U.S. is the country that's coming up global trade and that China is the vanguard of free trade.
00:04:33.480There's so many barriers to entry of the Chinese market.
00:04:36.420And so when we have that conversation, we really need to understand the many, many challenges that companies have doing business in China.
00:04:43.720So on the one hand, you have companies like Microsoft and NVIDIA trying really hard to work in China and making ethical sacrifices to do so.
00:04:52.880On the other hand, Beijing makes it difficult for them to do so, which in some sort of perverse way encourages them to try to give up more to succeed in the Chinese market.
00:05:04.260Isaac, if people want to follow you, stay up to date with everything you're working on, your analysis, where can they go to do that?
00:05:12.940Go to Twitter at Isaac Stonefish and LinkedIn as well, and also www.strategyrisks.com.
00:05:25.520Mike, you were just testifying, I want to give the hearing name, an inside job, how NGOs facilitated the Biden border crisis,
00:05:53.060which I think is a uniquely pivotal hearing because I think a lot of the frustrations with how the deportation and immigration issue has been rolling out under the Trump administration
00:06:01.560is that it's not going to the root cause.
00:06:04.260And when I say that, I don't mean the left-wing globalist NGO idea that the root cause is economic inequality and inequity in a bunch of third-world countries,
00:06:13.420but it's that we have a NGO sort of, you know, religion, like weird religious aspect of these groups that are essentially, you know,
00:06:21.480helping these migrants, these illegal aliens, make it to the border and then pumping them into every corner of the country.
00:06:29.700So you testified and provided a lot of actionable information, of course, got a lot of attacks.
00:06:34.720If you can just sort of walk the audience through how that went and what you see the next steps as.
00:06:39.700Yeah, so on the nonprofit side, it's all about the numbers.
00:06:44.740That's why it's really the only thing to be concerned about or to realize is driving this.
00:06:50.380The Biden administration couldn't get as many people in and around the country as they wanted to.
00:06:54.800Their goal was as many as possible, but they only had so many government personnel that they could, you know, employ and deploy to do that.
00:07:01.540So they just put a bunch of money into big pockets that they then gave to the nonprofits that then recruited these people, greeted them and shuttled them around the country.
00:07:11.340That's how you sustain the logistics of a border invasion.
00:07:15.180And, you know, 10 million plus people came across the border.
00:08:35.460But where do you think now, like you said, they have the influx of cash?
00:08:40.440You know, was it the money that was the limiting factor?
00:08:44.240Or was it just the political wherewithal and, I think, intensity and, frankly, just ability to carry out these deportations from just firing on all cylinders and being serious in our conduct and not just, you know, putting out tweets and doing photo ops?
00:09:11.460The standard, let's remind ourselves, that the president said on the campaign trail and, you know, through his presidency is the biggest deportation operation ever, which is a comparison to Eisenhower's Operation Wetback, where there were estimates 1 to 3 million of illegals in the country.
00:09:26.320And they pointed to 1.1 million being kicked out.
00:09:29.240So if you look at how many illegals are in this country, you pick your fake number that's out there.
00:09:36.240I think right now we're on track for less than half a million this year, which is why they're pointing to that 7,000 number you mentioned is arrests.
00:09:44.780The number we care about are people who are picked up from the interior of the country and returned home.
00:09:49.960There's going to be all sorts of funny numbers.
00:09:51.380We saw, one, they're trying to point to economic data about labor force participation rate to then extrapolate some self-deportation number.
00:10:13.360It's not public because the number is low.
00:10:15.580The biggest impediment right now is one of policy and politics.
00:10:18.620It's that the leadership in this administration has kind of vacillated on the scope of the mass deportation mission.
00:10:25.680Tom Homan's been strong the whole time, but you have political leadership and Secretary Nome at DHS who have really leaned into the criminal illegal alien aspect.
00:10:34.280The problem is, while that's like a communications-friendly message, I suppose, it's a safe space to say we're only deporting the worst of the worst.
00:10:41.180There's only about half a million criminal illegal aliens, by their definition, in the United States.
00:10:46.260That gets you nowhere near mass deportation.
00:10:48.620Also, it is a lot harder to conduct operations on criminals than it is to do large-scale worksite enforcement.
00:10:56.640It's obvious to say, but if you're going after an MS-13 gangbanger in the hood, you're bringing in a bunch of officers, you're doing tactical planning, it's a dangerous situation, and so you get less.
00:11:07.560It prioritizes the quality of, I guess, the communications aspect of it, but it deprioritizes the numbers.
00:11:15.360And like I said, it's all about the numbers.
00:11:17.520If you look at how Eisenhower did it, they encircled large agricultural areas, and they, in their own words, in their own reports and all something on this soon, went in and mopped it up.
00:11:27.120They brought in military expertise to help them do it.
00:11:30.520And so they need, in this Trump administration, to get over these political and policy hurdles.
00:11:35.160You keep having these trial balloons of amnesty, and then we're changing amnesty, like we're a liberal trying to, you know, transgender all the kids or something.
00:11:43.420They can't decide what the word means.
00:11:44.900It needs to be ultimately clear that if you're illegal, no matter what, you are going home, and it's more likely than not that you will be deported, and the resources that come with reconciliation need to be used extraordinarily quickly.
00:11:57.140And very creatively, we've proposed a lot of creative ideas for them, but it's time to start cracking down.
00:12:04.120I think it'll determine the midterms and whether the MAGA base shows up, you know, in addition to what I've said on the transparency and accountability issues.
00:12:10.980If you can't get the numbers up on mass deportations or the results out on accountability, I'm afraid people are going to stay home because that's what excited people the most.
00:12:20.600Yeah, I mean, what they did on the border, the actual securing of it, I think is historic, but we're obviously very analytical here in the war room.
00:12:28.700And the addition of a lot of these adjectives in front of mass deportations, it's just watering it down.
00:12:45.280The comms angle that I care about is not what a bunch of, you know, neocon or NGOs supporting, you know, volunteer on the southern border to help invade this country, what those people think.
00:12:55.080And I think in the same way, there's actually a beauty to the messaging that you're not just getting criminals out.
00:13:00.780Because like I was saying before, my aversion to mass immigration to the tune of tens of millions of people, frankly, legal and illegal, is not merely because you're importing backwards cultures that probably have a statistically higher likelihood of criminality and poverty and stealing your jobs and suppressing your wages.
00:13:20.960It's the idea that the very fabric of this country, the rug of this country, is being pulled out from underneath us by a set of policies that were instituted by people that we never voted for.
00:13:31.920And that's why I think there's such an anger, because you're essentially saying that my concerns about wanting to preserve American culture and American heritage, well, I guess you can only do it if the guy has an MS-13 gangbaker.
00:13:46.020And frankly, I'm going to hold you through the break, because I want to get into the sort of the auto pen angle of all this, too.
00:13:54.760But I also think it's important to note that you're going to have this crisis just manifest again, unless you go after the people who orchestrated it.
00:14:03.260And I think you do have done a wonderful job going after the NGOs, but you have all of the people, too.
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00:17:30.820I want to link this to another issue that you guys have been certainly ahead of the curve on, and that is all things auto pen.
00:17:37.680Seems like there's some renewed interest in that.
00:17:39.380Can you sort of give us an update where we stand on that front, your investigations, your work, what you guys have been doing?
00:17:44.320So, you know, this all started in March when we released our first findings about the prolific use of an auto pen device to cover up for Biden's incapacity.
00:17:54.520And since then, it's taken on many different layers.
00:17:57.640It has gone to the House, the Senate, and the executive branch.
00:18:01.980I guess the most recent updates are two very important ones.
00:18:05.440Comer over in the House began a series of interviews with Biden officials.
00:18:09.160The first one, the woman who is in charge of the paper for the entire White House, Neera Tanden, the staff secretary, that's the person you see, Will Schar from the Trump administration, handing Trump everything to sign.
00:18:21.460It's usually a very credentialed attorney or somebody who can make sure processes are followed, the paperwork is tight, there's no litigation risk, they're always with the president.
00:18:31.740She only saw Biden like once a month at best, and she never even had his assent or proof of life before, you know, going down the chain and executing the auto pen device.
00:18:44.580And since someone kind of broke with the Biden administration, guess what?
00:18:47.940All the witnesses since then have claimed the fifth, you know, they're refusing to testify.
00:18:54.000Where that's at now, and the posse could be greatly helpful on this as Congress, some of them are going to say, well, there's nothing we can do about it.
00:18:59.960Guess what? There is something they can do about it.
00:19:02.140They can grant these witnesses immunity, basically say, you're immunized for crimes related to this, get your butt back in here, testify, answer the questions, and if you don't, you're held in contempt.
00:19:11.980So don't let Congress keep their foot off the gas.
00:19:14.820The second thing, and this was Sunday night, the New York Times came out.
00:19:19.180Keep in mind, the New York Times, two weeks after I released our findings in March, said it was a conspiracy theory.
00:19:23.960Well, they issued another report on Sunday confirming our entire, you know, theory of our case and said that Biden actually was setting broad categories for pardons, and then his staff would go in and pick and choose who got him.
00:19:38.600So it's absolutely confirmed Biden was not functionally aware of who was actually getting the pardons, which means they're obviously illegal.
00:19:45.800President Trump's already said so much, so it's time to fix those, charge those people, put the death row inmates back on death row, all of the above.
00:19:54.600One other positive sign is the Trump administration announced an investigation into it.
00:20:00.260It's kind of duplicative, to be honest, because about a month ago, Trump issued an executive order saying, DOJ, go ahead and do this.
00:20:07.220Well, the news now is the White House Council is undertaking a review.
00:20:11.780It's important for a really detailed reason that has escaped attention.
00:20:16.080There are two ways they could have gone about this.
00:20:17.640They could have just focused on Biden's incapacitated.
00:20:22.040Or they could have focused on that and whether Biden actually authorized it, like looking at each individual action and chasing it, tracing it back to Biden approval.
00:20:40.260A lot of lawyers were pushing back on us, but they announced a review of one million plus pages.
00:20:44.900And so that's an authorization investigation, which means they got a lot of work ahead.
00:20:50.260We're going to help them as much as we can.
00:20:52.260But I remind all the viewers here, like the oversight project took this 95 yards down the football field.
00:20:57.940We've proved every element of this case over and over again in flamboyant fashion, despite the fact that, you know, the New York Times won't give us credit or, you know, anybody else.
00:21:22.580It seems like the rhetoric that they're putting out, for the most part, is in line with War Room, is in line with the MAGA base.
00:21:28.800But the actions that they're actually doing to sort of match that rhetoric is sort of still stuck in, you know, performative, frankly, like neocon rhino territory,
00:21:37.180where it's Trey Gowdy's definition of accountability, as evidenced through his botched Benghazi hearing.
00:21:43.620Or, I don't know, James Comer's, you know, book report that he released instead of putting Hunter Biden in prison or Jim Jordan's weaponization committee,
00:21:51.440which still we need to see exactly what that did.
00:21:55.200But I think there's also an interesting synergy between the Autopen investigation, frankly, the Epstein files, right?
00:22:01.320I'm not obsessed with the Autopen because I'm so maniacally or myopically focused on Joe Biden or what is left of him.
00:22:08.540It's because it's the question of who runs our country.
00:22:11.420And when you look at the evil things that these people have done or, frankly, their inability, their aversion to putting America first, right,
00:22:18.380the fact that that is a dirty word in Washington, D.C., I think is something that is very easily glanced over.
00:22:24.640But maybe you can't put America first.
00:22:26.300Maybe you want to invade this country because, I don't know, you're being blackmailed or you're essentially working on behalf of a foreign government,
00:22:32.680frankly, even a domestic intelligence service.
00:22:35.160And the fact that this Wall Street Journal piece, which, yes, it's bogus,
00:22:37.940but it does prove that even something as marginal as writing a stupid birthday card to Jeffrey Epstein, you know, two decades ago,
00:22:44.580if that's such blackmail or leverage potential there that, you know, you're going to sue Rupert Murdoch in news court,
00:22:50.480well, it proves that connections and ties to Epstein were blackmailable.
00:22:55.400Ergo, he did have influence over people who ended up in government, and it's probably a lot broader than that.
00:23:01.300So I think that there's really an interesting synergy there.
00:23:04.440Speaking of other synergies, of course, the legacy media is going to run cover for this cohort,
00:23:11.000this, can I use the word cabal, if so, I'll use it, of people who run this country.
00:23:16.160But the legacy media, NPR, your tax dollars are going to subsidize a lot of the information warfare in front of it.
00:23:21.960I know you guys have also been sort of the tip of the spear fighting against NPR and on the receiving end of a lot of their attacks,
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00:26:43.880Like I said, we certainly need you guys in the fight.
00:26:47.620We're going to, I think, have Mike Benz join us after the break, but until then, I'm sure you guys recall there was that bombshell notice, N-O-T-U-S story,
00:26:57.260talking about how these former state and USAID employees were essentially verbalizing, leaking their plans to sabotage the Trump administration from within.
00:27:07.800Now, I think there was a phrase for this that President Trump was attacked for using, and that's called the enemy within.
00:27:13.600But the gist of their case, their operations, were going to be to use the tactics that they have used in third world countries to foment, you know, coups and cultural, or color revolutions, rather, cultural revolutions, too.
00:27:49.040Well, they just put out a call to train a million, one million, of their supporters, activists, paid protesters, take your pick, in the tactics of non-cooperation to essentially kneecap the Trump administration.
00:28:04.660So an interesting synergy there, you know, we pay attention, we engage in pattern recognition, we focus on word use, but non-cooperation, that's going to be the radical left's new approach to coming after President Trump.
00:28:18.680We've got Mike Benz, packed show after this short break.
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00:30:13.080There's a lot of, shall we say, turbulence when it comes to Fed chair Jerome Power.
00:30:17.640We're supposed to have Wade Miller on.
00:30:18.900I think we'll have him on maybe tonight or tomorrow talking about how there is legitimate grounds for President Trump to be able to remove him.
00:31:11.680But this new initiative that they're rolling out, like I said, by Indivisible.
00:31:15.420So that's the Soros-funded, shady, swampy, kind of left-wing organization that really provides the shock troops for a lot of these mainstream Democratic issues.
00:31:30.800There's something kind of Maoist about that term.
00:31:35.160But they're calling it Strategic Non-Cooperation to Fight Authoritarianism.
00:31:40.860It's, quote, and we have the pictures if you want to put it up on screen, a national effort to train one million people in the strategic logic and practice of non-cooperation, as well as the basics of community organizing and campaign design.
00:31:55.240Quote, let's build a force bigger than fear.
00:31:59.020And why this is so, I think, important is because it goes back to that story about these ex-USAID, ex-State Department employees who are holding these secret kind of off-the-books workshops.
00:32:10.780They're calling it Democracy Aid, that's the unofficial official name, of the group, where they're plotting these tactics of non-cooperation with one of the spoken goals that they've discussed being sort of a nationwide strike.
00:32:25.260I'm not exactly sure if that's, you know, public sector, private sector, what exactly that would look like.
00:32:29.820But the quote from that reporting in terms of what they were planning was, quote, they're building a network of government workers willing to engage in even minor acts of rebellion in the office.
00:32:39.180And they're planting the seeds of what they hope could become a nationwide general strike.
00:32:43.100And one of the things that they were doing to help incentivize these employees to sabotage President Trump, whether that's, you know, blowing the whistle, leaking documents, talking to the press, which, frankly, I think with what you see going on to the Wall Street Journal, I think there's an interesting synergy there.
00:32:58.440But they were actually circulating, again, legacy media's words, not mine, no conspiracies, no coincidences, but they were circulating old CIA materials.
00:33:08.560One of the pamphlets was titled Simple Sabotage, and it was a bunch of the tactics that they would use to sort of develop, whether it was human sources or, you know, term people develop sources to, I guess, allegedly boost the interests of the United States.
00:33:24.320But in this case, to sabotage President Trump.
00:33:27.400And this is an extremely well-funded organization.
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00:37:12.380Eric, take it away on the timing of this, the story, and then let's get into the movement on some of the documents you've requested.
00:37:20.320Well, it's kind of hysterical what happened last night.
00:37:24.640The Wall Street Journal published one of the most bizarre screeds that you're going to find reprinted in mainstream journalism.
00:37:34.820I think one of the lines that stood out, and obviously this was a purported letter from Trump to Jeffrey Epstein on his 50th birthday, filled with riddles and cartoon drawings.
00:37:49.000And, you know, evidently this had been sat on, you know, we're to be told that this was in a Justice Department exhibit just newly unearthed.
00:37:59.980And critics are obviously trying to use this to say, aha, this is the reason that we don't have the Epstein files, because Trump has this happy birthday letter.
00:38:09.400And things may not be as they seem, because who knows how many more birthday letters Trump wrote to Jeffrey Epstein.
00:38:15.780Now, look, the fact is, is we know that Trump was on Jeffrey Epstein's plane, you know, in the 1990s.
00:38:23.660I just had a birthday party, and the binder was there, and, you know, Trump's name is very clearly in the binder in the 1990s.
00:38:32.640This was, we've sort of been, we've been here, done that.
00:38:36.380I, you know, Trump is obviously arguing about the authenticity of the letter.
00:38:39.860But even if, you know, I guess what I'm getting at is, is Epstein was not arrested until 2006.
00:38:48.160In the 1990s, I don't think people widely knew what he was doing.
00:38:53.100Trump was famous for having kicked Epstein out of his private clubs in Florida.
00:38:59.300So, you couldn't really do business in the 90s in high finance or real estate without bumping into Epstein.
00:39:09.300So, to me, the mere presence of a letter, even if it were true, doesn't really do anything for me.
00:39:14.940But the fact is, is there was, on the heels of this, or perhaps concurrent with it, Trump demanding or greenlighting Pam Bondi to unseal grand jury evidence to the extent that the court would allow it in order to satiate the base, which is a good start.
00:39:36.240My concern is the things that I'm particularly most interested in, i.e., Epstein's intelligence ties, are not going to be in a grand jury, are not going to be something that you're going to find unsealed in a grand jury case.
00:39:54.380So, I think that's good, but it's not really responsive to the main issue, in my view.
00:40:01.700And so, Pam Bondi has got to get, she's got to get the Justice Department OPR transcript of Alex Acosta, and she's got to tell us the results of the CIA name trace on Jeffrey Epstein.
00:40:16.460And walk us through some of these other documents that you've been calling for, if you've seen any movement, or frankly, just even any response on those.
00:40:28.000Well, Charlie Kirk has been echoing this call as well.
00:40:33.480I've seen it begin to pick up traction.
00:40:37.180I've not seen anything or heard from any sources inside the Justice Department about whether or not it's registered yet.
00:40:45.000But, you know, I've not yet begun to fight.
00:40:48.160My goal is to basically make it that they can't have a press conference without being asked this question openly.
00:40:53.160And, in addition, this is such an easy ask.
00:40:59.040I mean, you're, so, the Justice Department, OPR, the Office of Professional Responsibility, reports directly to the Justice Department.
00:41:09.060This is not like on the CIA side where you need to trawl through, you know, hundreds of or thousands of Byzantine documents or layers of bureaucratic authorization.
00:41:22.220What we're looking for is the full transcript where Alex Acosta was asked five years ago whether or not, asked about the extent of Epstein's intelligence ties.
00:41:36.200And all we have is this one little footnote buried in, on page footnote 244 of a 348-page report.
00:41:44.160I want to, it's a one-line summary description of it, which I thought was highly, highly misleading.
00:41:51.620And for the public to be able to know how that, how those queries around Epstein's intelligence ties were shaped by Bill Barr in his emails as well.
00:42:03.880And, in the CIA Office of General Counsel, what I'm getting at here is, is I have, I've, I've made about a dozen videos at this point about two very easy things that can be done in order to, to satiate the base here.
00:42:19.880Acosta's transcript, as well as the, the, the internal chatter around that.
00:42:25.740And, and, and the results of the CIA name trace, if we're told that, that Epstein belonged to intelligence by the Daily Beast, is it true?
00:42:38.060Mike, if you can hang with us through the break, I know the audience really respects your, your viewpoints on this.
00:42:44.040And I do think there is sort of this concerted effort to reframe the Epstein stuff to make it sort of, sort of, you know, tabloid-esque, limited hangout, focus on the, you know, stupid, weird birthday card.
00:42:55.740Instead of what I, I think the thing itself is, right, which is the domestic, frankly, foreign intelligence leaks.
00:43:03.020Lakes, I know you were tweeting last night, if anyone had done a CIA name trace on Jeffrey Epstein.
00:43:07.940Just a lot of rudimentary stuff where, you know, I think we, we've become so accustomed to being called conspiracy theorists that we sort of just, you know, well, rolls off our back.
00:43:17.600But, like, the stuff that we're asking for is not absurd.
00:43:21.880Frankly, the stuff that we're asking for was just cited in that Wall Street Journal article.
00:43:25.480I think the best way to clear it up would be just to, I don't know, release the frickin' book that these alleged cards were in.
00:43:31.160And, frankly, I would like to know who actually wrote him birthday cards and who actually was partying and hanging around him, Democrat, Republican, or otherwise.
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00:45:12.980Mike, you've got the last few minutes of this show.
00:45:15.780Just sort of help the audience understand where you think we go from here.
00:45:20.900You know, what the next few days look like.
00:45:24.780I think where we go from here is going to totally depend on the admin's response.
00:45:28.980This has been one of the more bizarre episodes in the history of our running love affair with Trump, I think, from the base, in the sense that this is not an issue that really affects our day-to-day life, like the economy or like a foreign war or even something like, you know, the trade war or even something like a government agency like USAID.
00:45:56.040This is kind of a litmus test issue about, you know, responsiveness to the base in terms of cleaning up past episodes of corruption to send a message that such a thing cannot be done again.
00:46:11.180And, you know, in that spirit, I think that Trump has hoped that this would go away because it's not as big an issue in terms of the day-to-day impact on people's lives as other things.
00:46:24.340And so there's been a constant flip-flopping between saying, yes, we'll give transparency, you're crazy if you want transparency.
00:46:35.360You know, as I posted yesterday, Trump in 2015 saying Bill Clinton is going to have a problem because of a little guy named Jeffrey Epstein in a little island.
00:46:52.980And then 2025, the Democrats and Bill Clinton made up the Jeffrey Epstein thing that he campaigned on as saying was evidence of corruption.
00:47:03.860But so I think there's been a hope that the MAGA base would kind of just let it go.
00:47:10.120And ironically, this was the same hope, I think, that Democrats had that MAGA would just kind of let go of issues and instead found to, I think, Democrat and mainstream media dismay that, like, the MAGA base is super hardcore.
00:47:26.240When it bites its teeth into something, it's like a pit bull.
00:47:49.360Tulsi Gabbard didn't give us a full answer on JFK, but we saw it was a good faith effort.
00:47:55.300Just this week, The Washington Post had to publish on A1 front page the Joe and Evie stories about the CIA, you know, having assets, you know, fully in touch with Lee Harvey Oswald and surveying his home and mail beforehand.
00:48:12.640I mean, this was all forced because of the good faith effort at ODNI.
00:48:15.800And the least that can be done is to give us an answer on Epstein's intelligence ties, at least vis-a-vis what U.S. intelligence knew or information had collected on Epstein so that researchers can take it from there.
00:48:38.960Yeah, I don't think our interest in the Epstein stuff was a function of President Trump talking about it, so I don't think his dismissal of it is going to throw people off the case.
00:48:50.040We're interested in it because it exposes answers to questions that, frankly, I don't even think we know exactly what those questions are because it gets to the power structures, the people, the foreign countries that run or try to influence this country.
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