Bannon's War Room - Episode 4648： Stopping Corruption In Texas; DOJ Goes After Jack Smith

00:00:00.000 One of the strategies in that election, sort of fighting fire with fire, it seems like

00:00:03.420 redistricting is going to be an issue here. We've already seen Texas Governor Greg Abbott

00:00:07.760 announcing he would move forward with asking the state legislature to redraw Texas's maps

00:00:11.880 after a push from the White House. It seems we may see a similar effort from California Governor

00:00:18.000 Gavin Newsom, even though the dynamics in that state are a little bit different than Texas.

00:00:23.160 But I guess my question is, do you support that type of effort in regards to strategy for the

00:00:31.760 midterm election? You know, I think generally voters choose their elected officials and not

00:00:36.180 the other way around. And I have always been a proponent of redistricting that keeps communities

00:00:42.260 together and produces fair, competitive results. But not partisan redistricting, as you introduced

00:00:49.120 an act before, sort of going against partisan redistricting. In an ideal world, that's exactly

00:00:53.520 right. I think Republicans need to understand if they go down this path, that what's good for the

00:00:58.540 goose is good for the gander. And they can't expect Democrats to sit back and let them change the rules

00:01:04.120 of the game and not respond. But ideally, everybody should keep redistricting once every 10 years to

00:01:11.760 create fair maps that allow voters to elect their representatives rather than representatives to

00:01:18.280 choose their constituent.

00:01:19.280 Hey, howdy neighbors, Brian Harrison here coming to you from the floor of the House. Property taxes

00:01:24.760 are so important to the leadership of this corrupt body that we gaveled in, gaveled out about 10 minutes

00:01:30.680 later. And then I can break to you right now. We are going to work a two day, two day work week this

00:01:36.360 week. And as of yet, zero bills have been even referred to start dealing with property taxes. So not

00:01:42.200 getting out to a good start here. And then of course, the speaker put the head of the Democrat caucus,

00:01:46.060 Gene Wu, who just threatened to break quorum to prevent Trump's redistricting agenda in Texas,

00:01:51.180 put him on his newly formed select committee on redistricting. So I'm sorry, guys,

00:01:55.740 the special session is not shaping up. You guys have yet to be much better than the regular sessions,

00:01:59.820 a continual betrayal of the conservative Republican voters of the state of Texas.

00:02:03.820 But nonetheless, it's minor to fight for you. So God bless you and God bless Texas. I'll keep you posted.

00:02:08.380 Caroline, you mentioned there also Israel. We've seen stepping up some attacks in Gaza.

00:02:14.540 Has the president expressed his frustration with Netanyahu and how does this impact the ceasefire

00:02:19.340 negotiations? Well, look, the president enjoys a good working relationship with Prime Minister Bibi

00:02:25.900 Netanyahu and stays in frequent communication with him. He was caught off guard by the bombing in Syria and

00:02:33.100 also the bombing of the Catholic Church in Gaza, which, as you know, I addressed at my briefing

00:02:37.020 last week. And in both accounts, the president quickly called the prime minister to rectify those

00:02:42.540 situations. And we saw Secretary Rubio intervene when he came to Syria. We saw a de-escalation there.

00:02:47.980 And as for the bombing of the Catholic Church in Gaza, the prime minister did put out a statement

00:02:53.180 saying this was an accident. And they deeply regretted that action on behalf of the state of Israel,

00:02:58.220 following his conversation with the president.

00:03:03.180 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going

00:03:10.700 medieval on these people. You're just not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the

00:03:17.020 people. The people have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try

00:03:21.340 to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:03:24.700 And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega Media. I wish in my soul,

00:03:31.180 I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:03:38.700 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:03:44.940 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:03:48.380 Okay, it's Monday, 21 July, year of early, 2025. A lot to get to today. Julie Kelly and Sam Faddis

00:03:59.100 are going to be here shortly about all the investigations. We've got a big update on

00:04:03.420 artificial intelligence, but we've got to start in the great state of Texas. Remember, folks,

00:04:08.780 Texas is the railhead of the MAGA movement. They are bound and determined to turn it purple and then

00:04:15.020 blue. As goes Texas, so goes the nation. President Trump announced that, and we had

00:04:21.420 DeGrasse on here. DeGrasse is off for a few days on his honeymoon. But DeGrasse was on here walking

00:04:27.580 through the actual districts in Texas that make sense. I think there's five districts to be

00:04:32.140 redistributed. Then this afternoon, we get this social media post by Brian Harrison. Brian joins us now

00:04:38.380 from the Texas legislature. Brian, I'm totally corn fused. How is this radical Democrat put on

00:04:44.940 the select committee when we thought one of the reasons you're in special session,

00:04:50.460 you've got a couple of things you have to do, but this is one of the priorities. Why are we putting

00:04:53.740 a radical Democrat on the select committee? And is he going to chop block everything? Is this thing

00:04:58.460 going to get off? I mean, President Trump is counting on this, on the redistricting of these five

00:05:03.100 seats, sir. Well, it's just a continued total betrayal of the fake Republicans that control

00:05:09.020 the Texas House. And even though you alluded to this, I mean, Texas has long been the crown jewel

00:05:14.220 of the progressive left's plan to take over America. If we lose Texas, we'll never have another

00:05:18.460 Republican in the White House. And the Democrats are hell bent on derailing the Trump agenda at any

00:05:23.980 cost. So the state of Texas, as far as I'm concerned, we should be doing everything we can

00:05:28.220 as a state that reelected him with a 14 point landslide to lock arms with President Trump and

00:05:32.860 advance his agenda. And that includes here on the redistricting plan, because we've got a

00:05:37.100 chance to play a role in making sure that the U.S. Congress doesn't fall to the radical Democrats

00:05:41.980 in the upcoming midterms. But what does our fake Republican speaker to down here,

00:05:45.580 a speaker selected by the Democrat caucus, Gene Wu, the chair of the Texas House Democrat caucus,

00:05:50.380 goes out and does a press conference this morning where he literally puts them quorum

00:05:54.060 breaking, walking out in order to thwart the Trump agenda explicitly on the table.

00:05:58.620 And then just minutes later, our rhino speaker points him to a newly formed select committee on

00:06:03.580 what? Redistricting. And then even since I learned that, two more quotes I'll give you from

00:06:07.260 two other radical Democrats that he put on the redistricting committee. This is Trump's plan for

00:06:11.100 redistricting. He puts these Democrats who said the following things just today. One by

00:06:15.020 Representative Turner, he says, quote, we will do all we can to fight back against Donald Trump.

00:06:20.940 And then get this. He actually made a Democrat the co-chairman of the redistricting committee.

00:06:26.300 Let me read you two sentences from the newly appointed Democrat co-chair of the redistricting

00:06:30.380 committee. Quote, Donald Trump and MAGA Republicans want to prioritize going after congressional districts

00:06:36.460 by stealing them while ignoring the people's voices. Serving as vice chair of the House Select

00:06:42.060 Committee on Congressional Redistricting is a responsibility I take seriously because

00:06:46.220 the stakes couldn't be higher. I'm ready to fight back against President Trump. That is the Democrat

00:06:53.020 newly appointed co-chairman of the redistricting committee here in the great state of Texas.

00:06:58.860 It is an absolute betrayal of the conservative Republican Trump supporting voters here in the

00:07:03.820 state of Texas. Brian, I'm missing something. This is a priority, not just for Texas. This is a priority

00:07:12.700 from the man. This is a priority of President Trump. He said over the last week, this redistricting is

00:07:17.740 central to his 2026 plan, not just to hold the House, but to increase the House. So we don't have all

00:07:24.540 these hangups on these bills. We have every bill is now trench warfare. How did that message not get

00:07:32.620 down to the leadership in Texas, sir? Well, it's a question that has vexed me since I got elected.

00:07:39.820 As you know, Steve, I had the privilege of serving as a senior member of Trump's first administration.

00:07:43.580 I was excited to get elected to the Texas legislature because I assumed every elected Republican in Texas

00:07:48.140 was fighting as hard for the freedom and liberty of the next generation as those of us who had served

00:07:51.660 under President Trump. And what I've learned down here is that we have a bunch of people who are

00:07:55.340 effectively Democrats, but they can't get elected if they tell the truth about themselves. So they

00:08:00.300 run as Republicans, but then they turn around and then empower the very radical Democrats that they

00:08:05.900 tell their voters they're going to oppose. So I'll tell you how this happens. We have a Republican,

00:08:09.980 a nominally Republican speaker, but the secret that very few people understand is that it was actually

00:08:14.700 the Democrat caucus that selected our speaker. About 30 rhinos teamed up with the entire Democrat

00:08:20.300 caucus in the Texas house and they selected the house leadership. So even though the voters of

00:08:24.780 Texas reelected Trump by 14 points and gave us a 26 seat majority in the Texas House of Representatives,

00:08:30.700 Kamala Harris and Joe Biden's team quite literally is in charge of the Republican dominated

00:08:37.580 house in the state of Texas. I actually argue it's one of the biggest forms of voter fraud that's ever

00:08:42.220 been perpetrated in these United States. So why are we even having a special session? What are the

00:08:49.740 the objectives? I know these aren't, they try not to call these two. Why are you having a special

00:08:54.540 session now in the blazing hot summer of Texas? It is warm down here. I mean, look, one of the,

00:08:59.980 obviously the redistricting thing, but then the other reason we should have one, and I was the

00:09:04.460 first elected official here to call on Governor Abbott to do this, was to fix one of the biggest

00:09:08.620 failures that we had during the regular session, which is that we decided to vote to keep property

00:09:12.860 taxes sky high and tax Texans out of their homes to continue funding, basically a continuation of the

00:09:17.900 Biden agenda. The Texas government might be the biggest funder of DEI in America. We're funding,

00:09:22.220 funding transgender indoctrination in our public universities, but then also property taxes were

00:09:27.740 not addressed. And we're, people think we're the small government, low tax state, but the reality

00:09:32.140 is Texas has one of, if not the highest property tax rate of any Republican state in America. It's an

00:09:37.900 outrage. Texans are being taxed out of their homes, again, to fund the progressive left's ideology.

00:09:43.260 And I find that totally unacceptable. So that's the reason I was calling for a special session is

00:09:47.500 because we failed to do anything meaningful to get property taxes down. And they're just

00:09:52.060 burdening 30 million Texans and it's, and it's untenable. But since we're here and since the

00:09:55.580 president's got a need and national Republicans have a need to make sure that the radical Democrats

00:09:59.500 and Hakeem Jeffries don't take over the U S Congress, we should do that. We should lower property

00:10:04.300 taxes and we should start acting like the conservative Republican state, the bastion

00:10:08.140 of liberty and the beacon of freedom that everybody believes that we are. But because of these weak

00:10:12.780 establishments of sellout rhinos controlling our legislature, we've just got Democrats running the

00:10:18.700 show. We've got four weeks of this special session and the speaker put out the schedule a day or two

00:10:23.740 ago. We're only going to be on the floor for 10 minutes today and maybe a few minutes on Thursday.

00:10:28.540 That's it. So that's a quarter of the session that's going to be gone before we even start

00:10:32.060 getting to work of the people's business and the people, not just in Texas, but, but the people all

00:10:36.460 across the country and president Trump. Okay. What can, how are we going to go forward? This

00:10:42.060 redistricting is, is beyond important. So what's your recommendation of going forward and how can

00:10:48.300 the Warren posse participate and assist our brethren down in Texas? First off, we have a huge audience

00:10:54.140 in Texas, but for those not in Texas, how can we help also? Well, I'm grateful to the posse. Y'all

00:10:58.780 have helped us defeat the Austin swamp so many times. The Austin media, the Texas media, they're,

00:11:03.820 they're lazy, they're liberal, so they don't cover the real story. But I try to post every day,

00:11:07.740 including from the floor on my X feed, which is at Brian E. Harrison, uh, at Brian E. Harrison on X,

00:11:13.260 pretty much the only truthful news you're going to get out of the capital of Texas. So please go

00:11:16.780 and amplify that at Brian E. Harrison. But then if you're in Texas, especially figure out who elects

00:11:21.580 you or who represents you from the governor on down in the state of Texas, and you reach out to them

00:11:26.220 privately through emails and phone calls, but also publicly go to their Facebook, go to their X

00:11:30.380 accounts. And you ask them, what are they doing to stand up to the corrupt liberal rhino leadership

00:11:36.060 in the Texas legislature that's selling out President Trump, that's selling out Republicans,

00:11:39.660 that's selling out congressional Republicans, and that's selling out conservatives because they want

00:11:43.340 to tax Texans out of their homes to fund the Biden-Harris agenda. Ask them those questions.

00:11:48.060 What are you doing to stand up to the corrupt leadership in the Texas legislature that's allowing

00:11:53.420 Democrats to run the show? And if you don't get an answer, you, you keep asking them. I mean,

00:11:57.020 ask them publicly. Brian, one more time, your, uh, your Twitter feed, where do people go?

00:12:03.420 At Brian E. Harrison on X. That's at Brian E. Harrison. And let me tell you, we, we can,

00:12:10.940 if we do occasionally have victories against, uh, this, it's the same coalition in Texas that,

00:12:15.660 that used to challenge us in Trump's first term and now Trump's second term, which is the Democrats,

00:12:19.660 their mouthpieces in the liberal media, but also weak and maybe the worst of all, weak establishment

00:12:23.820 Republicans. We can defeat them when we rally from the ground up and put pressure on them and exposing,

00:12:30.460 bringing transparency to the corruption that they want to perpetrate, uh, at the hands of,

00:12:35.580 you know, so-called Republicans down here. But when they're called out to task on it,

00:12:39.180 we can defeat them. So there's still time. We've got a month, we've got enough time,

00:12:43.020 and we've got the votes. If the corrupt leadership would just get out of the way and let the, the

00:12:47.180 Republicans, uh, down here act like Republicans and stop empowering the radical Hakeem Jeffries,

00:12:54.300 Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Democrats that have controlled this legislature for far too

00:12:59.100 long. Thank you, Brian. I appreciate you taking time away, getting back to the office.

00:13:04.380 Appreciate you, my friend. Appreciate the possible. God bless y'all.

00:13:06.940 We, we will be on this every day. I cannot emphasize enough how important that redistricting is,

00:13:13.900 folks. You remember those of you with us, remember the wars that you fought in Florida,

00:13:18.460 Missouri, Tennessee, Louisiana, I think North Carolina before the, uh, before the 22 midterm.

00:13:26.140 We're here again, I think Ohio, but really Texas, the Texas five.

00:13:31.260 Uh, it makes sense. It ought to be done. It assists the people actually being represented by

00:13:37.740 folks that, um, believe what they believe. We got to get those five seats, bottom line.

00:13:43.420 And we will fight like hell the next four weeks. Okay. Um, Julie Kelly and Sam Faddis are with us.

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00:17:19.300 kind of story in Axios about a piece of legislation being put forth by Josh Hawley. In fact, the

00:17:28.660 senator is going to be with us, I think, on Wednesday to talk about it. But I want to give

00:17:31.840 people a heads up because, Mark, do you agree with my thesis? I said, with all the investigations

00:17:36.820 going on, you got treason, the things, you got the Epstein. I mean, things are in at a boil

00:17:41.820 in Washington. Behind the scenes, the knives are out. Also, I think even more so about artificial

00:17:49.060 intelligence. And the reason is people know that this is power and money. And that's why it's about

00:17:54.780 control. It's about population control. Give me your thoughts of where we stand with the fight about

00:18:01.880 AI and at least making sure that it's not just some totally unregulated where you have a handful of

00:18:07.420 people that are driving this agenda and nobody really knows what's going on until it's too late

00:18:11.940 versus some sort of at least sensible regulatory framework. And how does this bill from Senator

00:18:19.060 Hawley, who's been at the forefront of this fight with Blackburn, how does this fit into it?

00:18:24.720 Hey, Steve. Yeah, this is really important. I don't know if most Americans recognize just that the

00:18:30.860 decisions being made in Washington today over AI will shape the future of the United States for 100

00:18:36.700 years or more. And so while we're all kind of being, we're all focusing on all these different

00:18:40.840 headlines, behind the scenes, as you mentioned, there's this war that's being waged on the future

00:18:46.460 of AI and the table stakes for the country and for the future of freedom and for the future of our

00:18:51.580 constitutional republic. So Senator Hawley, you know, he's long been a champion of kind of everyday

00:18:59.040 folks. I think, Steve, one of the phrases you used was the little people are the hobbits. As a

00:19:04.420 Tolkien fan, I always loved that. And, you know, those are the folks whose voices are not being

00:19:08.420 heard from in Washington. And, you know, Senator Hawley has taken a stand and he's saying, and with

00:19:14.160 Senator Blumenthal, they put out this piece of legislation that basically says if an AI company

00:19:19.120 uses data that was generated by an American for training their models, then they're going to be

00:19:27.040 held liably accountable. And it's a really interesting thing. And it's one that's being litigated in the

00:19:31.120 courts right now. And so I have to applaud Senator Hawley for stepping up and discerning the role of

00:19:36.020 Congress in an appropriate way and not leaving these decisions to the courts.

00:19:40.680 So what is this is more than just monetization? What are they trying to do? Because folks,

00:19:45.320 remember, we beat back the 10 year moratorium into the fact of that no states would have a say so here,

00:19:51.660 or at least to be some sort of regulation, not just a free and total anarchy for a decade,

00:19:56.960 because by then it'd be way, way too late. Every time they move, every meeting they take,

00:20:03.160 they're trying to figure out how to slip this thing. They try to slip it into the NDAA

00:20:06.640 and the Senate side and the House side. It's been it's been beaten back. But you're not you won't

00:20:11.820 know that until you see the actual the final bill. Every time you turn around, they're trying to get

00:20:15.900 this moratorium in there. Why? How does this put that a little bit in check? Because, you know,

00:20:23.260 we've killed that a couple of times, but you've got to be always on the alert of what the oligarchs

00:20:27.800 are trying to do. You know, it's unfortunate that some of our Republican colleagues are continuing to

00:20:34.220 push on this despite the quite severe repudiation during the big, beautiful bill discussion in the

00:20:40.640 Senate. And, you know, I think the appropriate response here is not to ban states from doing

00:20:46.760 anything for 10 years. If you're going to make the argument that, look, the United States needs to

00:20:50.800 be China. We need a standard unified approach. It's not that you say there's going to be no

00:20:55.040 rules for the industry and 10 years of just sort of free reign to pick the pockets of the American

00:21:00.180 people. Instead, you need the federal guardrails in place. And I think there's definitely a

00:21:04.900 negotiation and a deal to be had here. So federal preemption could make sense if it were to be

00:21:10.240 accompanied by smart federal policy. And I think Senator Hawley and Senator Blumenthal appear to be

00:21:14.960 trying to do just that. It's kind of like a first shot, an opening salvo in the discussion of what

00:21:20.300 a good deal might look like.

00:21:25.400 What do you say the possibilities of this can pass? We know that when you brought it to exposure on the

00:21:32.600 big, beautiful bill, the 10-year moratorium, you know, Ted Cruz was mocking us that we only had

00:21:37.980 three votes against. It was a long night. And then we won 99 to 1. As soon as you put the searchlight on

00:21:44.300 this, it changes. What about in this situation? What is your recommended for the recommendation

00:21:49.540 for the legislative strategy? This is the network. You guys run this network to make sure we get the

00:21:55.100 appropriate, make sure that we get the appropriate laws passed. What say you?

00:22:01.360 Yes, sir. You know, our network, you know, it's a bit of a David versus Goliath fight,

00:22:05.460 but we're going to fight the good fight to try to help inform members of Congress on

00:22:08.900 what the technical story is of these technologies and where it's going and what the appropriate

00:22:13.720 guardrails will be. And, you know, whether or not Senator Hawley and Senator Blumenthal's

00:22:17.920 legislation will pass, I think that it seems to me, at least right now, to be a bit of a tough road

00:22:23.700 because at the core of the matter is issues of whether or not these companies have what they

00:22:28.000 assert to be this idea of a right to train. And, you know, if the companies are going to say,

00:22:33.500 like, look, if we can't, you know, acquire data and use that data to train our models,

00:22:38.140 and we're not going to have an AI industry and China's going to win. And then, of course,

00:22:42.460 on the other hand, you know, you have musicians, you have artists, you have content creators

00:22:46.640 who are going to be, and journalists, and who are going to be displaced by these capabilities.

00:22:51.920 And so if Senator Hawley, Senator Blumenthal, if this piece of the exact piece of legislation,

00:22:56.800 it may or may not pass this Congress, but what it does is it opens the discussion on what an

00:23:01.260 appropriate balance could be and what a consensus view could be. Because I do get concerned when I hear

00:23:06.480 folks like Congressman Guthrie in the House continuing to push on this kind of blanket

00:23:11.200 path for the industry. And we have, you know, Americans out there that are, you know, Americans

00:23:16.040 are losing their job today. I mean, we've already had hundreds of thousands of Americans lose their

00:23:20.220 jobs because of AI in 2025. As I understand it, you know, unemployment among college, recent college

00:23:25.460 graduates is the highest it's ever been. We need a national discussion on what the right framework

00:23:30.340 should be.

00:23:30.820 But hang on, Mark, Mark, Mark, Mark, you're in the middle of this thing. You're not buying

00:23:34.760 the case that it's creating more jobs than it's taking away. I mean, that's the pitch

00:23:38.840 they're making. For all the technology folks and STEM people that are whining and bitching

00:23:45.080 and moaning, right, I say that tongue in cheek, that are losing their jobs, the proponents

00:23:53.140 of AI said, oh, you're missing the point. We're actually creating many more jobs than are leaving.

00:23:58.360 Is that the analysis that your group understands the situation we're in? Is that true?

00:24:06.060 I unfortunately don't think that's true. I think there's this line out there that's been

00:24:10.820 perpetuated by the industry and by all these management consulting companies that, and it

00:24:15.140 says this, it says an AI won't steal your job, a human using AI will steal your job. And I think

00:24:21.880 that's kind of like the digital opiate of the masses for the 21st century. I think AI will absolutely

00:24:27.080 steal your job. And even if it does empower you, and I'm not anti-technology. I use AI

00:24:31.960 every day. These are some amazing capabilities, but I'm very aware of the fact that I do not

00:24:36.540 own that AI. And if I were dependent upon that AI for my livelihood, I would be very nervous

00:24:44.940 that that could be taken away at any point. I would have little control over that. So this

00:24:48.980 idea that's going to create new jobs or not create new jobs, I just don't see it yet. And

00:24:54.040 it could be true, but I'm not buying it.

00:24:58.120 Mark, how do people get to you to find out more about this bill, more about what you guys

00:25:01.860 are doing on AI and the AI Policy Network, sir?

00:25:05.620 Yes, sir. We are at the AIPN.org, the AIPN.org. And you can follow me on Twitter at Mark Beal.

00:25:13.000 Mark, thank you so much for jumping in here, talking about this. Joe Allen's going to join

00:25:19.220 us a little later in the show. We've got a lot more on artificial intelligence, but Julie

00:25:24.380 Kelly joins us. Julie, we're going to play. We've got a clip we're going to play after

00:25:28.120 the commercial break for you. So much is happening today. I mean, can you give us just a couple

00:25:32.920 of the headlines of what you're tracking on these investigations, ma'am?

00:25:37.540 What time is it? I mean, it's like we're getting hourly bombshell droppings, which is great.

00:25:44.500 So just following up on Tulsi Gabbard's, not just her release on Friday, but her comments over the

00:25:50.240 weekend about a treasonous conspiracy and her belief that charges should be brought. Today,

00:25:56.760 Senator Grassley's release of the old Hillary Clinton mid-year exam inquiry, as they called it,

00:26:04.740 at the FBI, and how, of course, as we know, it was not thorough, but we have more evidence.

00:26:10.400 Senator Grassley disclosing the now declassified appendix to Michael Horowitz's 2018 report

00:26:16.640 investigating the mid-year examination. So lots of things happening. So we can chat after the break.

00:26:25.980 Well, let me get about a minute or two. Let's talk about I want to talk about that one specifically.

00:26:30.120 Why? Because a lot of the mainstream media is either trying to dismiss this or say,

00:26:34.340 we've heard this before. Like, for instance, they're saying, oh, this is the IG report from

00:26:38.240 Horowitz. Well, actually, it's not. It's kind of the meat of it that he wasn't able to disclose.

00:26:43.820 So Grassley's now on board. There are other people on board. I understand from people at DNI

00:26:49.840 that the whistleblowers are burning up the phone lines of people that have information.

00:26:54.840 We've got about a minute before we go to break. Why is this what Grassley did today so important?

00:27:00.120 Because what it demonstrates, and I'm going through it, it's pretty lengthy and kind of

00:27:05.040 goes back and forth. But what it proves is that the FBI had eight thumb drives of data collected

00:27:12.180 from a major breach of federal government servers. This included a trove of hacked emails from then

00:27:21.200 President Barack Obama. I think it could be tied to the 2015 email hacking of the State Department.

00:27:27.220 It doesn't specify in this declassified appendix. But they had eight thumb drives of emails from the

00:27:36.280 president and from the State Department. And what some in the FBI were pushing, and it appeared like

00:27:42.000 even early on Peter Strzok was doing this, is that they wanted to look at the source who had turned

00:27:47.740 over the eight thumb drives, look at, to the extent that they could, the data and records on those thumb

00:27:53.440 drives and cross-reference with anything with the ongoing Hillary Clinton investigation.

00:27:58.500 But lo and behold, I know you'll be shocked to find out. No one pursued it, the matter was dropped,

00:28:04.720 and no one looked at those eight thumb drives to see if it further implicated Hillary Clinton,

00:28:09.180 because Jim Comey had already decided the case was closed and no charges would be brought.

00:28:13.000 Hang on for one second. Julie Kelly is with us in the war room. Short commercial break. Back in a moment.

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00:30:08.920 The intelligence community is full of very, very good people who do their jobs every single day,

00:30:14.000 and now they're watching their leader do something that each and every one of them knows is dishonest.

00:30:20.120 And it is a really, really bad thing for the safety and security of the American people when

00:30:25.280 that dynamic is out there. Congressman Jim Himes blasting DNI Tulsi Gabbard's, quote,

00:30:33.100 lie, her attempt to turn the spotlight perhaps away from the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, and Donald Trump's

00:30:39.320 plunging poll numbers by resorting to the typical playbook of Donald Trump and his allies, fabricating

00:30:45.660 and relitigating a nine-year-old assessment that was just recently re-corroborated by Mr. Ratcliffe,

00:30:52.620 Donald Trump's handpicked CIA director, that Russia interfered in the 2016 election and favored Donald

00:30:58.200 Trump. Gabbard released a report on Friday that she claims proves that the Obama administration

00:31:04.300 intelligence officials manipulated and withheld evidence that Russia did not hack voting machines

00:31:09.940 to change the outcome of the election, accusing those officials of a, quote, treasonous conspiracy

00:31:15.260 in 2016, end quote, and referring them to the Justice Department for Criminal Investigation.

00:31:20.600 But the problems here are many. No investigation contended that Russia manipulated votes in 2016.

00:31:26.780 Not the initial assessment by intelligence officials, not the nearly two-year-long Mueller investigation,

00:31:32.660 not the investigation by the Bill Barr-appointed special counsel, John Durham, and not the

00:31:38.900 investigation by the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee led by now Secretary of State

00:31:44.940 Marco Rubio. As the New York Times reports, those three investigations, quote, back the findings of

00:31:51.320 American spy agencies in late 2016, that Russia was trying to influence the election by damaging

00:31:57.440 Ms. Clinton's campaign and bolstering Mr. Trump, end quote, adding that, quote, the new report by Ms. Gabbard's

00:32:03.840 staff conflates those two activities by the Russians and tries to suggest that the Obama administration

00:32:09.080 forced the intelligence community to alter its conclusions, end quote.

00:32:14.840 Okay, this is how they're blown back already. And look, these people are very sophisticated. They have huge

00:32:19.360 platforms. This is going to be a fight, right? But we got it. We have to win this one. If you if you don't win

00:32:25.300 this one, number one, I think people are gonna be so dispirited that, hey, we caught these guys red-handed

00:32:30.280 and you couldn't prosecute them in the deep state actually runs thing. Julie Kelly, you've seen the

00:32:35.040 underbelly of this since you started on the J6 persecutions, not prosecutions. Talk to me about

00:32:42.560 what's coming up on this and and the blowback you're getting. Of course, Andy McCarthy in National

00:32:48.060 Review has already taken a shot at Tulsi Gabbard. Walk me through your assessment of where we are in this.

00:32:55.300 So here's what they're trying to do, the Nicole Wallace's and John Brennan and Tim Heapy, who was on the

00:33:03.440 January 6th Select Committee. I wish someone would ask him about all the destroyed evidence that he produced

00:33:08.440 on that committee. But nonetheless, what they're trying to suggest is that what Tulsi Gabbard and others are saying

00:33:15.420 is that the Obama regime, Obama White House inner circle, said that the voting machines were hacked

00:33:23.140 and that the vote totals were impacted by the Russians. I don't think that Tulsi Gabbard, I keep reading

00:33:29.480 through her documents, I don't see that she has said that anywhere. But they did say, and I'm rereading

00:33:37.380 John Brennan's ICA, the 2017 one that's now been thoroughly discredited. And he does talk about

00:33:45.020 Russian cyber intrusions into state and local electoral boards. They sent Lisa Monaco, DHS Secretary

00:33:53.620 Jay Johnson and Jim Comey to Capitol Hill in September of 2016, not to talk to the gang of eight and

00:34:00.620 congressional leaders about, you know, $100,000 in Facebook ads that the Kremlin allegedly was going

00:34:06.680 to put out saying mean things about Hillary Clinton. No, they went with the express purpose of fomenting

00:34:16.300 this fake belief that the Russians somehow were going to hack into our election system, our voting

00:34:22.340 system, and that they needed to come out in a bipartisan way and denounce that. Not Facebook ads, not

00:34:29.560 Vladimir Putin saying nice things about Donald Trump. They made this sound like it was going to be a very

00:34:37.180 aggressive and vote changing election outcome changing operation. So this is what they talked about

00:34:45.440 beforehand. They talked about it publicly. They talked about it after the election. So to now conflate this

00:34:52.900 with, well, now they're saying that the Obama people said and Brennan said that votes were impacted. No, that's

00:34:58.840 not what they said. They specifically said that the Russians at Vladimir Putin was going to interfere,

00:35:05.580 hack, assault. They used a number of different descriptions for it. The elections to help Donald

00:35:12.800 Trump win. So now that they're all backing away, I love how Nicole Wallace is like, oh, this nine-year-old

00:35:18.180 report with John Brennan sitting right there, who of course was responsible for it. You know,

00:35:24.120 they just will not stop the deception that this hoax relied on from day one to try to destroy Donald

00:35:34.240 Trump and successfully disabled the first half of his first presidency with this Russia collusion

00:35:40.120 hoax. And of course, special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation that came up empty-handed on that score.

00:35:46.900 The, the, what they mocked, the Mike Lindells and the machine folks in the 2020 election, they were

00:35:54.240 trying to, uh, uh, uh, you know, work up, get people worked up in the fall of 2016 when it never

00:36:01.240 happened. Also, let's go back to the Facebook ads. Wasn't, I think Clapper was the guy that wrote the

00:36:06.080 book, either Clapper or Hayden, one of the two, keep those nerds apart. It might've been Hayden's book

00:36:11.720 because they all wrote books, right? In the book, I remember Aaron Burnett seeing their interview on

00:36:17.840 him and she said, Hey, look in your entire book, you get down to it and you're talking about $160,000

00:36:23.360 of Facebook ads that some group in Russia took that said, you know, Hillary Clinton was not the best.

00:36:31.160 That's still kind of the, the, the, the, the, the basic facts they had. There were some Facebook ads

00:36:36.340 that were done. Is it not? They never proved anything else. And of course,

00:36:39.800 on the December 8th, they had a phony IC assessment that they want to rework to basically show and to

00:36:46.940 smear what I call it the nullification project, either to get, to be able to remove Trump from

00:36:52.520 office, but not doing that, put enough doubt in American people's minds that he'd been fairly

00:36:57.580 and freely elected, ma'am. Right. Correct. So I think that the Facebook ads maybe were proven or

00:37:05.000 somehow tied to the Kremlin or GRU or whatever, but we did all of this for Facebook ads. And now

00:37:11.200 you have Tim Heathie or whoever, and, and that weirdo Tim, the other Tim from the bulwark.

00:37:18.060 Now, all of a sudden they're just poo-pooing and laughing this whole thing off.

00:37:21.720 Uh, it, it's pretty, um, preposterous. And also Steve recall, this all originated with the other

00:37:30.260 lie, which is that the Russians hacked the DNC email server and that the Russians were responsible

00:37:37.740 for the decimation, uh, excuse me, dissemination of incriminating emails, uh, on located on that

00:37:46.720 server that threw the convention up for grabs in 2016 resulted in the resignation of Debbie Wasserman

00:37:54.120 Schultz. They blamed that on the Russians. And then we come to find out there's never been any

00:37:59.100 evidence that the Russians hacked the DNC email system. Sean Henry, who was the CEO of CrowdStrike,

00:38:05.460 the firm that was hired by Fusion and DNC to look into the hack and then quickly determine that this

00:38:11.460 Guccifer 2.0 working with the GRU had hacked the email system. Uh, he told Congress a few years

00:38:17.280 later, no, we never had the data. We never had the servers. We never had the machine. We never could,

00:38:22.840 could look at anything. Of course, Jim Comey said that they never had it either. So that's another

00:38:28.080 lie, but that's really what I think initiated, uh, this narrative, or even if it sort of disputes what

00:38:36.380 is specifically in the ICA, but certainly the idea that the Russians hacked into something. Um,

00:38:45.680 and that's why it was called, you know, 2016 election hacking. If you go through the news reports,

00:38:51.980 that's all that they say is hacking. Barack Obama suggested it in December of mid December of 2016.

00:38:58.640 Tulsa Gabbard has that in her documents. So to now back off and say, Oh no, no, no. The Russians really

00:39:04.620 didn't do anything serious. We didn't really say that they did anything serious. We just said that

00:39:09.140 they were influencing the election. Well, of course, every major enemy of America wants to do

00:39:14.940 that. So, um, just another, their attempt to rewrite history in the face of now more evidence

00:39:22.420 and putting that, uh, puzzle pieces together on this unprecedented. Well, the evidence has been put

00:39:27.960 out. The evidence is put out at more evidence is coming. And by the way, the, on the Facebook ads,

00:39:33.720 I don't think it's the Russians and maybe some group associated with the Russians. I don't think

00:39:36.980 that was ever proven. Right. That's right. As little as that is. Um, the, uh, talk to me about

00:39:42.600 Lisa Monaco. Why is she important? Why does she pop up in the meeting in Obama's office? Why does she

00:39:48.520 pop up later as, uh, the deputy to Merrick Garland? She, she's, uh, you know, like this, like the

00:39:55.280 character Zelig. She shows up everywhere. Uh, there, there's bad stuff happening. Who is she? And I guess

00:40:02.140 one of her deputies got subpoenaed today. Right. So Lisa Monaco is kind of like the

00:40:07.960 where's Waldo of the nearly decade long lawfare operation against the president and everyone

00:40:15.040 around him. So yeah, she was in that December 9th, 2016 white house meeting that we just found

00:40:22.380 out about things to Tulsi Gabbard on Friday. But Steve, the morning before that meeting,

00:40:28.580 white house meeting, Lisa Monaco met with some of the top political white house and national

00:40:34.640 security reporters in the country at a breakfast for Christian science monitor. That's where she

00:40:41.400 planted the very first seeds that the president, that president Obama was going to order his

00:40:46.820 intelligence community to look at potential Russian interference, hacking involvement in the

00:40:54.600 election. So she didn't say, we're going to look at, you know, some social media posts that were

00:40:58.960 mean about Hillary Clinton and maybe the Russians funded. No. And who asked her the question? And I've

00:41:04.560 posted this clip. I also have it at my sub stack. Who pitches the softball question to Lisa Monaco

00:41:11.180 that morning, right before this December 9th meeting, where they then are scrambling to change the

00:41:16.860 intelligence assessment and rework it and order this ICA? Who answered the question? Yahoo News,

00:41:23.440 Michael Isikoff, who was responsible for the first article in September 2016 about the Steele dossier,

00:41:30.620 about alleged ties between the Trump campaign, Carter Page and the Russians to influence the

00:41:37.540 election. That newspaper article used in the FISA applications to seek a warrant to spy on Carter Page

00:41:45.360 and by extension the campaign and by extension the president. This was all so carefully orchestrated.

00:41:51.980 So that was Lisa Monaco. She then leaves, obviously, the Obama White House. He's run out of office,

00:41:59.540 thankfully. She spends four years as a CNN commentator going after the president. She was

00:42:05.240 one of the first to float the idea about using the Logan Act against Michael Flynn. Joe Biden gets

00:42:11.440 installed in the White House and he picks Lisa Monaco to be his deputy attorney general, run the

00:42:18.840 Department of Justice, where she picks up right where she left off in January of 2017, puts a team

00:42:26.620 together to investigate the president for January 6th to help concoct the classified documents case,

00:42:35.820 which we learned about in that those court proceedings that NARA and the White House General

00:42:41.780 counsel had been in touch with the deputy attorney general's office on how to proceed with a criminal

00:42:47.720 referral for the alleged harboring of classified documents at Mar-a-Lago. And she brings on this

00:42:54.400 man named Thomas Windham, pulls him, I think he was at the Maryland U.S. Attorney's Office in Maryland,

00:43:01.160 pulls him, puts him in the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office, which was first investigating the president for

00:43:06.180 January 6th and then classified documents. He's like her little toady. And he eventually then,

00:43:13.040 after Jack Smith's appointed in November of 2022, Windham goes to the special counsel's office

00:43:19.740 from the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office, goes there and is one of the lead prosecutors with Molly Gaston

00:43:25.160 on the January 6th case. So he was asked to sit for a transcribed interview with House Judiciary

00:43:32.240 last month, where he, of course, surprisingly did not answer any questions. They asked him questions

00:43:37.800 about the special counsel. They asked him questions about the January 6th committee,

00:43:42.300 questions about any correspondence he had with Fannie Willis, any interactions with the National Archives,

00:43:48.060 which, of course, was also a lead operator in concocting the documents case. And the U.S. Postal

00:43:55.600 Service asked him a bunch of questions he said he couldn't answer. So now he has been subpoenaed today,

00:44:01.720 got a subpoena from House Judiciary to sit for a deposition.

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00:45:30.740 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:45:33.300 So, Julie, he gets over there and he's not forced to answer. Tell me the answers he was giving.

00:45:44.500 So, he really wasn't giving any answer. At first, he said he could not answer questions because the

00:45:49.420 Department of Justice had not authorized him to answer questions. So, of course,

00:45:54.000 the Trump Department of Justice immediately said, yes, you can give unrestricted testimony

00:45:58.920 about any of the topics under inquiry by House Judiciary. Well, that didn't suffice. So, then he

00:46:06.340 relied on Federal Rules Criminal Procedure, Rule 6E, which relates to secrecy of grand jury proceedings.

00:46:16.080 That wasn't flying either. And at one point, Chairman Jordan calls his obfuscations,

00:46:25.480 you invoked an absurd and indefensible interpretation of the Department's authorization,

00:46:30.600 refusing to testify about communications with FBI officials on the grounds that FBI officials were

00:46:36.260 not included in the definition of DOJ officials. Now, of course, they are. The FBI is a subagency

00:46:44.560 of the Department of Justice. So, Tom Windham used to doing whatever the hell he wants behind the scenes,

00:46:52.120 running roughshod over everyone's rights, you know, having to work with Judge Tanya Chutkin,

00:46:59.140 working hand-in-glove with her to deny the president his rights, put a gag order on the president in that

00:47:04.900 case. But then when he's finally confronted, he pretends he has all these rights and protections and

00:47:10.240 privileges that he doesn't have. And so, Jim Jordan blowing the whistle on Tom Windham today and forced

00:47:16.960 subpoenaing him to sit for a deposition in September to answer a lot of these questions.

00:47:25.720 I would think especially his work with special counsel Jack Smith could be part of overall

00:47:33.000 investigation into the special counsel's office, which we know was announced in January by

00:47:39.200 Attorney General, well, the Weaponization Committee, but then part of what Pam Bodney and

00:47:46.160 the DOJ and Weaponization Working Group are looking at as well.

00:47:50.720 Yeah. Julie, you're all over this now. I know you're publishing something on Lisa Monaco you're

00:47:56.200 working on. Where do people, folks, you're going to want to know, you want to get your scorecard out

00:48:01.380 and start finding out who these people are because we're going to make them all infamous.

00:48:04.680 If you want them perp walked, if you want them found, if you want them investigated and indicted

00:48:11.860 and tried and then imprisoned and or other, you've got to do the pick and shovel work.

00:48:18.000 Julie Kelly and others, a team of others are doing it. Where do people go, Julie,

00:48:22.440 to find out all your information and support your work, ma'am?

00:48:26.500 Thank you, Steve. So I'm hoping to have my first, there's going to be a two-part series on

00:48:30.740 Lisa Monaco as kind of the common thread in this so-called grand conspiracy investigation.

00:48:35.680 So my work is declassified with Julie Kelly at Substack and then you can find

00:48:40.140 breaking news reporting on xJulie underscore Kelly too.

00:48:46.160 Julie Kelly, thank you very much for joining us today in the world. Appreciate you.

00:48:50.540 Talk soon. Thanks.

00:48:53.680 Julie Kelly, Lisa Monaco, that name will pop up a lot. You should know there's a ton of people

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00:49:05.300 Of course, the Martin Luther King files we'll put out today. Also, I would say, hey, we're absolutely

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00:49:16.760 are kind of swamped, I think is the easy way to say it, because the people out there that are doing

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00:51:50.040 the outlet sale. Usually we only have them in the outlet store. There's a lot of products we only offer

00:51:55.140 there. So you guys go to the website at mypillow.com. Scroll down and click on Steve. And

00:52:01.900 now, Denver, if you could click on the outlet store sale there. And if you scroll down, there

00:52:06.880 it is, you guys. There's many clothes out items, overstock items. You're going to save up to 80%.

00:52:12.720 For example, there's the flannel sheets and there's from last year. Now we got this year's

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00:52:24.080 outlet store closeout. Save up to 80%. Promo code War Room or call 800-873-1062. And when the operators

00:52:34.080 there tell them you got the promo code War Room, they'll tell you what's available on all of the

00:52:38.740 other bigger ticket products too. So this is the biggest sale we've ever had. I've never done this

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00:52:49.320 off. Wow. Mike Lindell, once again, what's the number to call? People love to call and talk to

00:52:57.740 your operators. What number to call? Yeah, can you put it up there, Denver? I'm sorry.

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Bannon's War Room - July 21, 2025

Episode 4648： Stopping Corruption In Texas; DOJ Goes After Jack Smith

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