Bannon's War Room - July 23, 2025


Episode 4651: Obama Responds To Treason Allegations; DOJ To Meet With Maxwell


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

160.09125

Word Count

8,773

Sentence Count

616

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

7


Summary

Tulsi Gabbard has submitted a criminal referral to the Department of Justice regarding the release of highly classified documents by the Obama administration in 2016 and 2020. Former Vice President Joe Biden joins CNN's Dana Bash to discuss the matter.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 President, do you support the Justice Department seeking a new interview with Ghislaine Maxwell and do you urge the Attorney General to see her?
00:00:06.340 I don't know anything about it. They're going to what? Meet her?
00:00:08.880 They're going to... Your Deputy Attorney General has reached out to Ghislaine Maxwell's attorney asking for a new interview.
00:00:16.380 Yeah, I don't know about it, but I think it's something that would be... Sounds appropriate to do, yeah.
00:00:20.940 Do you have any concern that your Deputy Attorney General as your former attorney would be conducting the interview, given...
00:00:27.360 No, no concern. He's a very talented person. He's very smart.
00:00:32.120 I didn't know that they were going to do it. I don't really follow that too much.
00:00:35.940 It's sort of a witch hunt, just a continuation of the witch hunt.
00:00:40.760 The witch hunt that you should be talking about is they caught President Obama absolutely cold, Tulsi Gabbard.
00:00:48.080 What they did to this country in 2016, starting in 2016, but going up all the way going up to 2020 of the election,
00:00:56.620 and they tried to rig the election, and they got caught, and there should be very severe consequences for that.
00:01:03.960 You know, when we caught Hillary Clinton, I said, you know what? Let's not go too far here.
00:01:09.880 It's the ex-wife of a president, and I thought it was sort of terrible, and I let her off the hook, and I'm very happy I did.
00:01:17.600 But it's time to start after what they did to me, and whether it's right or wrong, it's time to go after people.
00:01:27.080 Obama's been caught directly. So people say, oh, you know, a group. It's not a group. It's Obama.
00:01:33.000 His orders are on the paper. The papers are signed. The papers came right out of their office.
00:01:37.500 They sent everything to be highly classified. Well, the highly classifieds been released, and what they did in 2016 and in 2020 is very criminal.
00:01:49.280 It's criminal at the highest level. So that's really the things you should be talking about.
00:01:53.880 I know nothing about the other, but I think it's appropriate that they do go.
00:01:56.980 May I ask you about that, Mr. President? Tulsi Gowder has submitted a criminal referral to the Department of Justice.
00:02:04.280 From your perspective, who should the DOJ target as part of their investigation?
00:02:09.320 What specific figures in the Obama administration?
00:02:13.180 Well, based on what I read, and I read pretty much what you read, it would be President Obama.
00:02:19.360 He started it, and Biden was there with him, and Comey was there, and Clapper.
00:02:25.080 The whole group was there. Brennan, they were all there in a room. Right here, this was the room.
00:02:31.820 This is much more beautiful than it was then, but that's okay.
00:02:35.020 I have nice pictures up that came out of the vaults. They were in there for 100 years.
00:02:39.580 This is much more beautiful. We have the Declaration of Independence now in the room, which wasn't here.
00:02:46.000 I guess people didn't feel too good about putting it here, but I do.
00:02:49.260 But you know what? If you look at those papers, they have them stone cold, and it was President Obama.
00:02:57.480 It wasn't lots of people all over the place. It was them, too.
00:03:01.440 But the leader of the gang was President Obama.
00:03:05.160 Barack Hussein Obama, have you heard of him?
00:03:07.260 And except for the fact that he gets shielded by the press for his entire life.
00:03:13.160 That's the one they—look, he's guilty. It's not a question—you know, I like to say, let's give it time.
00:03:21.500 It's there. He's guilty.
00:03:23.640 They—this was treason. This was every word you can think of.
00:03:28.500 They tried to steal the election. They tried to obfuscate the election.
00:03:34.240 They did things that nobody's ever even imagined, even in other countries.
00:03:38.720 You've seen some pretty rough countries. This man has seen some pretty rough countries, but you've never seen anything like that.
00:03:44.280 And we have all of the documents.
00:03:46.960 And from what Tulsi told me, she's got thousands of additional documents coming.
00:03:53.000 So, President Obama, it was his concept, his idea, but he also got it from crooked Hillary Clinton.
00:04:02.020 Crooked is a $3 bill.
00:04:04.420 Hillary Clinton and her group, the Democrats, spent $12 million to Christopher Steele to write up a report that was a total fake report.
00:04:14.420 It took two years to figure that out, but it came out that it was a total fake report.
00:04:19.680 It was made-up fiction, and they used that.
00:04:23.100 The one thing they weren't able to do was to—and probably the only thing I respect about the press in years is the press refused to write it before the election.
00:04:33.860 They refused to put it in.
00:04:35.800 The Steele report was a disaster.
00:04:38.040 All lies, all fabrication, all admitted, and admitted fraud.
00:04:42.380 Well, she paid $12 million and the Democrats for that report to a wise guy named Christopher Steele.
00:04:49.520 He wrote a phony report, and they wanted to get that report in before the election.
00:04:55.620 And I'll tell you what, I talk about all the time the fake news, how bad it is.
00:04:59.700 But in this case, they wouldn't do it.
00:05:02.860 They saw it.
00:05:03.760 They read it.
00:05:04.380 And they said, we don't believe it.
00:05:08.020 And it was only after, substantially, like a month and a half after the election, that it got printed, and it was a big wisp.
00:05:14.220 It was just like a bang of nothing, because the election had ended.
00:05:18.260 If that report had gotten published by the New York Times or somebody—and I respect the Times for maybe only this,
00:05:26.180 because they're crooked as you can be.
00:05:27.940 They're a terrible paper, a crooked, corrupt paper.
00:05:31.620 But for this one moment, they said, this is—we can't put this in.
00:05:37.060 And neither could any other paper.
00:05:38.480 Wall Street Journal's a lousy paper, very, very dishonest paper.
00:05:42.480 As you see, I'm suing them for a lot of money because they do things very badly.
00:05:47.160 It's a really—it's got a nice name, but it's really, in my opinion, it's a terrible paper.
00:05:51.420 And it can be corrupt.
00:05:54.540 But just so you know, they didn't take the Steele report.
00:05:59.540 It was the dossier.
00:06:00.660 Remember the famous dossier?
00:06:02.080 I called it the fake news dossier.
00:06:04.280 The news wouldn't publish it.
00:06:07.060 And I'm amazed.
00:06:08.440 They had two and a half months.
00:06:09.600 It was finished.
00:06:10.840 Two and a half months.
00:06:11.860 That was supposed to be what was going to happen.
00:06:14.280 And it got published a couple of months after the election.
00:06:18.000 And, frankly, nobody cared too much about it.
00:06:20.140 But that was a big thing.
00:06:21.820 No, no.
00:06:22.200 We caught Hillary Clinton.
00:06:24.040 We caught Barack Hussein Obama.
00:06:26.440 They're the ones.
00:06:27.700 And then you have many, many people under them.
00:06:30.080 Susan Rice.
00:06:31.100 They're all there.
00:06:32.620 The names are all there.
00:06:34.720 And I guess they figured they're going to put this in classified information, and nobody
00:06:39.420 will ever see it again.
00:06:40.560 But it doesn't work that way.
00:06:41.800 And it's the most unbelievable thing I think I've ever read.
00:06:45.960 So you ought to take a look at that and stop talking about nonsense, because this is big
00:06:51.920 stuff.
00:06:52.540 Never has a thing like this happened in the history of our country.
00:06:56.300 And, by the way, it morphed into the 2020 race.
00:06:59.760 And the 2020 race was rigged.
00:07:01.740 And it was a rigged election.
00:07:03.400 And because it was rigged, we have millions of people in our country.
00:07:07.200 We have — we had inflation.
00:07:09.240 We solved the inflation problem.
00:07:11.400 But millions and millions of people came into our country because of that.
00:07:14.900 And people that shouldn't have been — people from gangs and from jails and from mental
00:07:20.580 institutions, people that we don't want in our country, and people that we're getting
00:07:25.140 out, dangerous people.
00:07:27.160 11,888 murderers, many of them, 50 percent, more than 50 percent, murdered more than one
00:07:35.780 person.
00:07:36.700 I hate to say this with such a distinguished guest, but, you know, they asked me a question.
00:07:41.100 I've got to answer the question.
00:07:42.220 No, Barack Hussein Obama is the ringleader.
00:07:47.980 Hillary Clinton was right there with them.
00:07:49.700 And so was Sleepy Joe Biden.
00:07:51.700 And so were the rest of them.
00:07:52.660 Comey, Clapper, the whole group.
00:07:55.120 And they tried to rig an election, and they got caught.
00:07:58.460 And then they did rig the election in 2020.
00:08:01.300 And then because I knew I won that election by a lot, I did it a third time, and I won
00:08:05.240 in a landslide.
00:08:06.060 Every swing state won the popular vote.
00:08:08.980 But I won that all the same way in 2020.
00:08:11.660 And look at the damage that was caused.
00:08:17.500 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:08:22.540 Pray for our enemies.
00:08:24.400 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:08:27.680 I got a free shot.
00:08:28.960 All these networks lying about the people.
00:08:31.940 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:08:33.900 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:08:35.280 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that.
00:08:37.040 But you're not going to stop it.
00:08:37.960 It's going to happen.
00:08:39.000 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:08:42.660 MAGA Media.
00:08:43.960 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:08:49.420 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:08:53.200 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:08:59.380 Here in the war room, it's Tuesday, July 22nd in the year of our Lord, 2025.
00:09:13.400 It's Natalie Winters hosting, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon on today.
00:09:17.620 Frankly, a historic day for what's gone down in the Oval Office.
00:09:20.760 That was obviously President Trump just delivering a blistering, brutal takedown of everything
00:09:25.800 that Obama and his deep state apparatchiks engaged in him against, whether it was the
00:09:30.620 Russia collusion hoax.
00:09:31.780 As we know, that is the tip of the iceberg.
00:09:34.900 Now, I mentioned Obama.
00:09:36.260 We also got Steve down the line, who's going to join us momentarily.
00:09:39.160 I would never interrupt or get in the way of a Steve Bannon hot take, except in this very
00:09:44.720 rare occasion when we have some breaking news coming from Barack Obama himself, issuing
00:09:49.620 a very rare statement, which I will read in full for you, and then we'll bring on Steve
00:09:55.460 to give his takes by phone.
00:09:58.020 Here we go.
00:09:58.500 Out of respect for the office of the presidency, our office does not normally dignify the constant
00:10:03.920 nonsense and misinformation flowing out of this White House with a response.
00:10:09.160 But these claims are outrageous enough to merit one.
00:10:12.020 These bizarre allegations are ridiculous and a weak attempt at distraction.
00:10:16.560 Nothing in the document issued last week undercuts the widely accepted conclusion that Russia worked
00:10:21.980 to influence the 2016 presidential election, but did not successfully manipulate any votes.
00:10:27.800 These findings were affirmed in a 2020 report by the Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee,
00:10:32.940 led by then-Chairman Marco Rubio.
00:10:35.680 Some people might say that sounds like a strong statement.
00:10:37.980 I would say that sounds like a—shall we quote the war of mature, a primal scream of a dying regime.
00:10:43.460 Don't tell us you're not scared, Obama.
00:10:45.460 Steve, I think we have you joining us by phone.
00:10:48.340 You've got about four minutes.
00:10:49.400 I don't know if you have a show clock.
00:10:50.720 Give us your take on everything going on since this morning.
00:10:55.440 Thank you.
00:10:56.460 Thank you, Natalie.
00:10:57.220 I'm actually going to be back in time to do the 6 o'clock show with Joe, but thanks for having me on here.
00:11:02.660 Look, today's a historic day.
00:11:04.440 What the president did today in the Oval Office, in front of a head of state—and a head of state who's really a most important ally in our fight against the Chinese Communist Party and on global television—called out, for the first time in our history, another president, another commander-in-chief for high treason, and named the co-conspirators.
00:11:26.600 And took, I think, if I clocked that right, about nine minutes and came back to it two or three times and reiterated and walked through the whole plot.
00:11:35.300 And what's even more jaw-dropping than that is Obama actually took the bait and responded today.
00:11:40.820 This is how concerned Barack Obama is about these charges.
00:11:45.880 They actually put out a statement, so it's game on right now.
00:11:49.500 And this could not get—this could not get more serious.
00:11:53.080 It's what's so interesting about their statement.
00:11:54.780 It's another bald-faced lie.
00:11:56.840 Remember, three or four weeks after this group met, they decided to—or right around that time, they decided that they'll have 73, I think, Russian diplomats and senior officials.
00:12:12.920 So they—the first, and this is how they were manufacturing the evidence, they made it up that it was direct interference to help Trump.
00:12:21.340 That's a total lie.
00:12:22.960 They manufactured the ICA.
00:12:24.740 They had the Washington Post in on it.
00:12:26.260 David Ignatius in on it.
00:12:27.880 The entire team over there.
00:12:30.000 And this thing's exploding.
00:12:32.020 And it's exploding enough, Natalie, that Obama felt compelled to have his spokesman actually give a response.
00:12:39.900 Because, like I said, Trump did it in the Oval Office, in front of a visiting head of state, and on global television.
00:12:46.520 Because this thing's gone all over the world.
00:12:48.940 I'd love to stick around for a little bit of the next block, Natalie, if you can fit me in.
00:12:54.080 I know we've got a bunch of guests, but this is a huge day today.
00:12:57.940 Well, luckily, when it's your show, I think we can always make time for you.
00:13:02.120 I think the audience would love to have you on.
00:13:04.720 You've got about a minute and a half left.
00:13:06.580 I'm just curious, maybe keep it short.
00:13:08.640 But, obviously, we love the rhetoric coming out of the Oval Office today.
00:13:12.100 But in terms of squaring that with actual action, do you see any positive movement on that front?
00:13:20.560 Well, my understanding is that they're thinking about a special counsel.
00:13:23.920 As you know, the DOJ is pretty overwhelmed, even on the Epstein situation.
00:13:28.640 It looks like the baton's been passed to the deputy, you know, A.G. Todd Blanche.
00:13:34.460 They're already into the courts.
00:13:35.680 The courts have responded, I think, already with, hey, you've got to be more specific if you want us to unseal the grand jury testimony.
00:13:42.840 So it's into a process.
00:13:44.720 My understanding is about the FBI and other DOJ officials are all over this right now.
00:13:50.300 More importantly, I hear, Natalie, that there are literally hundreds of whistleblowers coming forward and blowing up the phones over at DNI to provide even more information.
00:13:59.960 So Obama is nervous, and you see Brennan and these guys on TV every day trying to dismiss these charges by spin.
00:14:07.540 But Obama, being called out in name, is nervous enough to put out a statement.
00:14:14.660 Yeah, I'd wager to, obviously, they can't institute a whole impeachment inquiry since they don't run the House.
00:14:21.620 So we know they've always sort of opted to go the leaking route and sabotaging it that way.
00:14:26.000 So I can see some interesting stuff probably starting to come out of ODNI to try to sabotage everything they're doing on this investigation front.
00:14:35.220 Steve, I'm sure you can hang with us.
00:14:36.940 I know the audience would love that.
00:14:38.160 But Warren Posse, don't go anywhere.
00:14:39.640 We've got an absolutely packed show.
00:14:41.660 Mike Benz, the guy who wrote sort of the, I would say, seminal book on all things Brennan, quite the timely release on that one.
00:14:48.880 Mike Howell on the latest in terms of Epstein and Congress, why we need to get those documents released.
00:14:53.900 We'll be right back.
00:14:54.640 More at Steve Bannon after this short break.
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00:16:42.300 You're back in the war room.
00:16:43.800 It's Natalie Winters hosting.
00:16:44.960 But don't go anywhere.
00:16:45.900 We still got Steve Bannon joining us down the phone.
00:16:48.260 Steve, I know you've got a few more minutes of content, which, hey, if you want to take the whole block, go ahead.
00:16:52.340 I'm sure the audience would love it, but hit us with the latest.
00:16:56.280 Natalie, this is too historic, too explosive.
00:16:59.240 I'm back with Joe Allen tomorrow.
00:17:01.760 The AI action plans released.
00:17:04.040 We're going to be all over that.
00:17:05.480 But today's a historic day.
00:17:07.520 The president accusing a former commander in chief, a former president of high treason.
00:17:12.880 That president having his spokesman respond.
00:17:16.420 So it's game on.
00:17:17.580 I think it's fantastic.
00:17:18.740 Your show, you've got it packed.
00:17:20.000 And plus, I think our next guest, I believe, has the most exquisitely timed book, at least this year, in all publishing, a major expose on Brennan.
00:17:30.420 And people have to understand, Brennan is a central figure in this.
00:17:33.760 Obama and Hillary at the top.
00:17:36.420 But you've got Brennan, Clapper, and Comey all around it.
00:17:39.260 So take it away, and I'll see you guys at 6.
00:17:41.720 And Steve, one sec.
00:17:43.220 Before you go, if we still have you, do we still have Steve?
00:17:47.020 Doesn't sound like we have Steve.
00:17:48.640 Right here.
00:17:49.200 I know you hate AI, but did you like the AI video of Obama getting arrested that President Trump posted on True Social?
00:17:58.500 Well, here's the thing.
00:18:00.500 Whether I liked it or not, I put it up on Getter.
00:18:04.180 And we also played it the other day in one of the cold opens at the end.
00:18:07.220 I said, the thing's too good.
00:18:09.280 Particularly today, the president, listen, you asked the most important question of all.
00:18:13.940 Are we going to see any action on this?
00:18:15.600 Are we going to see anybody in DOJ and FBI driving this to get to indictments, to get to prosecutions, to get to trials and convictions?
00:18:25.100 That is the question.
00:18:26.220 Trump said right there, we don't need a long process.
00:18:28.740 All the evidence is here.
00:18:29.820 And so what I thought was, you know, particularly today after President Trump put that up, it showed you he's just not mean hunting.
00:18:38.120 Today he basically said, not basically, he said a former commander-in-chief in the United States was guilty of high treason.
00:18:45.980 And he used the word guilty.
00:18:47.400 So in Obama, by Obama responding, you know how serious they're taking this.
00:18:53.180 You've seen Brennan and these guys on TV every night spinning it, dismissing it.
00:18:57.520 They ain't dismissing it now because it's game on.
00:19:00.780 Yeah, maybe Obama will stop going on the podcast telling people to have gay friends.
00:19:05.300 He's going to hunker down and go into the Witness Protection Program.
00:19:07.780 Steve Bannon, thank you for joining me on your own show.
00:19:10.340 Always an honor to have you.
00:19:11.880 We'll see you back in the 6 p.m.
00:19:14.460 Thank you, ma'am.
00:19:15.260 Thank you, ma'am.
00:19:45.260 Ian, I'll let you take it away, but just sort of frame it through the lens.
00:19:50.740 You hear the word treason thrown around a lot.
00:19:53.680 Why do you think that that is justifiable to use in this setting, particularly against Brennan?
00:20:00.160 Yeah, so thank you, Natalie.
00:20:02.500 What is alleged in the contents of this book is that the former head of the CIA, John Brennan,
00:20:11.460 literally manipulated what are called code word compartments in the NSA to allow a stock increase
00:20:20.020 and something called the Analysis Corporation to increase in funding through Congress.
00:20:26.100 I'll try to micronize this and put it very simply.
00:20:30.180 But he allowed, having knowledge of three different terrorist attacks, he allowed these to happen
00:20:38.200 at the expense of American lives.
00:20:40.440 One of the most notable ones would be the Boston Marathon bombing.
00:20:43.080 Now, how this equates back to Barack Obama is this, and this is a direct quote off the book's website,
00:20:50.300 which is highstakestreason.com.
00:20:52.460 How this equates back to Obama is, from my source, quote,
00:20:58.880 It is credibly suspect that he feared then-President Trump, so this is back in the previous administration,
00:21:17.320 would reveal the very treasonous criminal scheme he engineered while serving as the head of the CIA under Barack Obama.
00:21:24.740 So what we're looking at is the allegation here that John Brennan was basically, in a sense,
00:21:35.840 could be, in a sense, pigeonholed by the former president, Barack Obama, to withhold certain information.
00:21:44.760 And the book goes into detail in regards to why he was granted an ethics waiver and certain information not disclosed in the financial disclosures.
00:21:59.980 And we talk about Rachel Molinaro and some other key players.
00:22:04.620 So why the book has the title Treason in it?
00:22:09.120 Very simply, because here is a governmental employee at the highest levels of the government
00:22:18.760 that is knowingly, allegedly, knowingly withholding information from the employer,
00:22:27.660 and that would be the American people, at their expense.
00:22:33.840 And that is an allegation and a crime of treason.
00:22:38.080 He makes him an enemy of the state, as far as I'm concerned and as far as I argue.
00:22:44.120 And the stakes are incredibly high, right?
00:22:46.680 So that is why we've chosen, we being Post Hill Press and Bombardier Publishing,
00:22:52.840 I think that is why we've chosen that title, because the allegation is that he committed very treasonous acts against the country.
00:23:02.820 There are further elements of surprise.
00:23:05.940 Roger Stone has written a foreword to the book.
00:23:08.440 There are further elements of surprise for readers, and most notably would be his knowledge
00:23:14.760 and his granting of passports to the 9-11 hijackers, and of course his ties to communism
00:23:25.580 and his conversion religiously to Islam.
00:23:31.360 So those are things that have been thrown around for many years, Natalie, but they resurfaced.
00:23:36.860 Why? Because as Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel are now looking into criminal activity happening during the Obama administration
00:23:50.720 and relating them back to the former head of the CIA, John Brennan,
00:23:57.200 we're finding that some of these things indeed were done against the best interest of the country,
00:24:05.980 and certainly at the expense of American lives.
00:24:10.560 So the book was just released this morning, Natalie.
00:24:13.240 I shot it over to Steve.
00:24:15.040 He's known about it now for a couple of months, easily a couple of months.
00:24:19.160 But now that the book is in print, it is circulating.
00:24:23.180 So that's the best answer that I can give you, Natalie.
00:24:25.980 We've got a few minutes, and I want to follow up,
00:24:29.360 because these are obviously some very explosive, damning allegations.
00:24:33.120 Some are new, some have been out there for a while,
00:24:36.660 but could you maybe explain to the audience a little bit about your sourcing methodology,
00:24:41.920 how you came to this?
00:24:43.040 And I think maybe what the logical question would be,
00:24:45.580 these are such explosive, damning, I think, consequential allegations
00:24:49.740 about people who essentially ran this country.
00:24:53.020 Was this information that was intentionally suppressed?
00:24:55.420 Was this information that you and your sources found?
00:24:57.600 How did you come to this?
00:24:59.040 Yeah, so what I'd like to do is I'd like to invite my source,
00:25:05.380 who approached me two years ago, to join the program at a future date.
00:25:11.300 I was at a CPAC convention.
00:25:14.460 I started the podcast in Miami in 2016.
00:25:18.840 And simply, this was a story that was brought my way at a DC CPAC two years ago.
00:25:27.100 The gentleman that approached me identified himself as a former FBI agent,
00:25:32.480 having worked with the FBI for 12 years.
00:25:37.180 He was let go by the FBI, even though he had been awarded a prestigious award,
00:25:45.460 in my view, prestigious award by the Bureau.
00:25:48.800 He was let go for, in my opinion, digging too deep,
00:25:55.040 a la Anthony Sutton at the Stanford Hoover Institute in the 70s.
00:26:00.240 This story that he brought forward to me captivated my interest.
00:26:06.420 And I knew that there was certainly strong merit to what he had uncovered
00:26:10.940 as a open source analyst at the time.
00:26:14.720 So he wasn't working with the FBI when he came across this information.
00:26:18.600 He was working, again, for the public sector, if you will.
00:26:23.560 And what stuck out to me, what stuck out to me was various things
00:26:29.700 about the financial disclosures that he had dug up regarding John Brennan.
00:26:36.400 And as he conveyed the story to me, and the gentleman's name is John Donovan,
00:26:44.440 as he conveyed the story to me, he kept saying,
00:26:49.680 Ian, I was wondering why this was happening, right?
00:26:54.020 Why this person would be doing these types of things in a covert level
00:26:59.200 at the White House under the Obama watch.
00:27:02.000 Um, and he said, Ian, it dawned on me that he was simply doing it for financial gain.
00:27:08.340 Natalie, if we backtrack to very layman's terms, uh, when I began the podcast
00:27:12.080 and I started looking into, uh, various elements of government corruption,
00:27:15.560 it was always, well, follow the money.
00:27:18.120 Why do people do various things in life typically to survive, um,
00:27:22.020 and, and augment, uh, augment themselves, uh, economically.
00:27:26.340 And Ian, we're having some tech difficulties and we're coming up against the break.
00:27:31.760 So I think we're, we're going to have to get you on again and get,
00:27:34.280 get your tech situation sorted out.
00:27:36.360 People can see the book.
00:27:37.560 If people want to purchase it, follow you and stay up to date
00:27:40.660 with everything you're working on.
00:27:41.940 Where can they go to do that?
00:27:45.480 High stakes, treason.com or iantrottier.com, high stakes, treason.com.
00:27:50.860 Thank you, sir, for joining us and congratulations on the book.
00:27:56.540 Very, very timely.
00:27:58.940 I guess, uh, with all the things that deep state has done to try to suppress this movement,
00:28:03.100 you probably could release a book every single day for the next several decades
00:28:06.960 and it would still be a timely release.
00:28:09.880 But, you know, the best release is always birchgold.com slash ban
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00:29:46.580 You're back in the war room, out of the winters hosting.
00:29:50.380 We are joined by the one and only Mike Benz,
00:29:52.840 who had a special request to come on the evening show
00:29:55.100 because I guess the morning show, which is 10 to 12 Eastern time,
00:29:58.760 so it's not that early,
00:30:00.160 apparently does not work with your busy sleep schedule.
00:30:03.740 But I digress.
00:30:06.260 In the morning show, I'm in my sarcophagus.
00:30:09.980 The vampire comes out at night.
00:30:11.620 There are some, well, you know what we need to put in the sarcophagus
00:30:14.620 is the UN censorship complex,
00:30:17.420 which the Trump administration is trying to do.
00:30:19.520 How's that for a segue?
00:30:20.680 By withdrawing from WHO, UNESCO,
00:30:23.800 all of these weird, euphemistic, shady-sounding,
00:30:26.780 supranational government entities
00:30:28.940 that want to rob us of our sovereignty.
00:30:31.780 Try to put that in an acronym.
00:30:32.880 I don't know if you can or if it sounds as punchy.
00:30:35.480 But they are punching back,
00:30:37.600 launching some new interesting dis and misinformation,
00:30:40.380 whatever it is, initiatives,
00:30:43.780 kind of in the same day that we're withdrawing.
00:30:45.980 I'll let you take it away and just sort of explain it
00:30:48.420 in your Benz approach that you always can,
00:30:51.100 why we should be focusing on this.
00:30:53.800 Yes.
00:30:54.140 So, frequently people ask me when I talk about the censorship industrial complex
00:31:00.200 to give a scorecard to the Trump administration
00:31:02.940 about how well it's doing on free speech.
00:31:06.000 And there has been an incredible amount of progress
00:31:09.040 on the domestic,
00:31:10.700 on what can be immediately fixed
00:31:12.520 within the domestic U.S. government agencies
00:31:15.700 between USAID,
00:31:17.260 the State Department,
00:31:18.700 the Pentagon censorship funding,
00:31:20.200 the National Science Foundation,
00:31:22.380 DHS,
00:31:23.240 FBI,
00:31:24.300 even the CIA information integrity programs.
00:31:27.120 And I would rate an A for the Trump admin on that.
00:31:30.560 The issue is,
00:31:32.020 we are well beyond
00:31:33.700 the level
00:31:36.880 at which this battle was being fought
00:31:38.720 from 2016 to 2020.
00:31:40.980 This is a war that has gone global.
00:31:43.900 And as the Trump administration took power,
00:31:46.220 many of these international organizations
00:31:48.840 or foreign governments
00:31:50.100 who are working with the Biden administration
00:31:51.860 have continued to push the envelope
00:31:54.300 on internet censorship policies.
00:31:57.180 And these include the EU
00:31:59.180 through something called the Digital Services Act,
00:32:01.980 which you should think of as the Digital Censorship Act,
00:32:04.580 which imposes massive fines on U.S. companies
00:32:07.040 if they allow any speech that the EU deems disinformation.
00:32:10.960 We see just this week
00:32:12.180 that Brazil has now criminalized
00:32:14.860 the act of sharing any videos or interviews
00:32:17.820 of their most recent president,
00:32:20.080 Bolsonaro,
00:32:20.800 who was hugely Trump aligned.
00:32:23.680 And we see international organizations,
00:32:26.760 like, for example,
00:32:27.380 the United Nations,
00:32:28.700 who have put together
00:32:29.520 these international money guns
00:32:31.400 in order to fund the same NGOs
00:32:34.280 and for-profit censorship mercenary groups
00:32:37.120 that were previously funded
00:32:38.680 by the Biden State Department and USAID.
00:32:41.460 And one of those is UNESCO.
00:32:43.140 And this is the sort of UN education and science branch.
00:32:47.940 And this is a very cute little linguistic trick
00:32:50.460 because you never see something like UNESCO coming.
00:32:53.180 UNESCO spends hundreds of millions of dollars
00:32:55.520 pumping up countering misinformation groups,
00:32:58.860 so-called digital resilience,
00:33:00.940 which is psychological resilience against fake news.
00:33:04.180 And it's every pet project of the UN,
00:33:08.840 WHO,
00:33:10.480 World Bank.
00:33:11.640 Basically,
00:33:12.560 they censor your opinions on public health,
00:33:15.920 on COVID,
00:33:16.900 on climate,
00:33:18.200 on open borders,
00:33:19.700 you name it.
00:33:20.640 If there is a pet globalist policy,
00:33:23.180 UNESCO is a giant money gun
00:33:25.620 that just sprays $20 bills
00:33:27.680 into a crowd of cheering censorship operatives
00:33:30.940 in order to take the money and run with it
00:33:33.700 so they can censor your voice.
00:33:36.120 And just today,
00:33:37.360 the State Department
00:33:38.180 proudly pulled out of UNESCO,
00:33:41.500 which is a huge first step in that process.
00:33:44.760 I think as well,
00:33:45.620 diplomatic pressure
00:33:46.480 should be applied by the U.S. ambassador to the UN,
00:33:50.920 who is now Mike Waltz
00:33:52.680 after he was previously the National Security Advisor,
00:33:55.300 in order to be apprised of the massive threat to free speech
00:33:59.400 that the UN represents.
00:34:01.400 The UN recently declared a global standard of principles.
00:34:05.780 They called it their Global Principles on Information Integrity,
00:34:09.360 which was a dedicated principles piece
00:34:13.180 about internet censorship
00:34:14.920 in order to stop free speech on social media.
00:34:17.760 And these included a dedicated plan
00:34:20.620 from the United Nations Working Group
00:34:22.440 to go after online advertisers
00:34:26.660 to deprive alternative news websites
00:34:29.040 of advertising revenue.
00:34:30.960 This is not the sort of thing
00:34:32.560 that the U.S. can ignore
00:34:34.240 without applying its own diplomatic toolkit
00:34:37.340 to fight back against it.
00:34:39.100 We've seen this has been very effective in the past.
00:34:41.700 In Canada,
00:34:42.300 when Canada tried to pass a 3% digital tax
00:34:44.920 on U.S. technology companies,
00:34:46.980 Trump walloped them with a threat of 50% tariffs
00:34:49.640 and they backed off of it.
00:34:51.120 When the U.K. tried to enforce its Online Harms Act
00:34:53.800 against U.S. tech companies
00:34:55.040 with tens of millions of dollars of fees,
00:34:57.700 the Trump White House stepped in.
00:34:59.380 And it's going to need to continue to be this way
00:35:01.240 until the international community gets the message
00:35:03.440 that we will protect free speech
00:35:06.040 with the full toolkit of the U.S. diplomatic muscle.
00:35:11.240 Just curious,
00:35:12.500 looking less so at the Trump administration's response,
00:35:15.440 but just isolating what the UN
00:35:17.160 and those other sort of globalist
00:35:19.580 anti-free speech organizations are doing,
00:35:22.360 do you think that in response
00:35:23.900 to a lot of these withdrawals
00:35:26.560 or just ceasing the funding for these programs,
00:35:30.100 how have they recalibrated
00:35:32.100 or reoriented their strategy
00:35:34.160 on the censorship front
00:35:35.620 to sort of circumvent
00:35:36.960 the traditional levers of power
00:35:38.940 that they were used to having access to,
00:35:41.460 certainly under Biden,
00:35:43.080 certainly under Obama,
00:35:44.140 but certainly the last four years?
00:35:47.260 Well, for one,
00:35:48.700 the Trump administration should be commended
00:35:50.260 because the U.S. money side of the U.N.
00:35:53.880 plays a similar role in the U.N.
00:35:55.420 as it does in NATO
00:35:56.320 in the sense that many of these
00:35:58.320 international U.N.-funded institutions
00:36:01.280 or funded through these U.N. subgroups,
00:36:04.600 most of the money will come from the U.S.
00:36:06.620 What has happened in this case
00:36:08.020 is they have tried to offset the money
00:36:10.860 by a combination of diving deeper
00:36:14.600 into the private money donor networks,
00:36:17.760 the Bill Gates types,
00:36:20.960 the Gates Foundation.
00:36:22.060 Bill Gates just announced $200 billion
00:36:24.400 in aggregate spend
00:36:26.940 on the Gates Foundation
00:36:28.560 over the next 20 years,
00:36:30.100 so that's $10 billion a year.
00:36:32.300 It was a major event several years ago
00:36:34.580 when I think George Soros had a net worth
00:36:37.020 of about $20 billion,
00:36:38.480 $20 to $40 billion.
00:36:40.340 Bill Gates is many, many times that
00:36:43.200 and has pledged $200 billion,
00:36:45.620 so he is reaching in
00:36:47.840 to essentially be the USAID offset.
00:36:50.320 You also see other private donor networks
00:36:53.540 like the Omidyar Foundation,
00:36:55.980 the Knight Foundation,
00:36:57.180 the Ford Foundation,
00:36:58.740 trying to step up
00:37:00.100 into the USAID funding vacuum
00:37:02.240 in order to offset that.
00:37:04.120 The other part of it
00:37:05.000 is that the EU itself
00:37:06.520 is opening whole new grant pools
00:37:09.280 in order to try to offset the U.S.,
00:37:12.020 and what they're hoping is that
00:37:13.500 when Trump goes away in 2028,
00:37:17.460 that there will be a,
00:37:19.480 you know, they're basically trying
00:37:20.500 to put a Band-Aid on a bullet hole here
00:37:23.220 and that they can sort of stop
00:37:25.260 the bleeding for a little bit
00:37:26.620 and these institutions can keep going
00:37:29.520 even at a somewhat limited capacity
00:37:31.840 because the money gun
00:37:32.820 will turn back on when Trump leaves,
00:37:35.360 which is why it's so important,
00:37:36.780 I think, for people
00:37:38.100 who believe in free speech
00:37:40.160 to continue the movement
00:37:42.740 that the Trump era
00:37:46.300 has started and galvanized
00:37:48.580 in order to ensure in perpetuity
00:37:50.960 that at least we're not funding
00:37:53.240 our own censorship.
00:37:54.820 At least if they're going
00:37:55.540 to try to silence us,
00:37:56.840 they're going to have to pay
00:37:57.760 out of their own pockets to try.
00:37:59.060 And just give us the latest,
00:38:03.060 your thoughts,
00:38:03.460 I'm sure you saw Obama's response
00:38:05.680 to President Trump's beatdown
00:38:07.680 in the Oval Office today,
00:38:08.980 where we sort of stand
00:38:10.860 on the Russiagate,
00:38:13.180 the docks,
00:38:13.620 even declassifying the MLK stuff yesterday,
00:38:15.580 just that general effort
00:38:17.080 to expose, shall we say,
00:38:19.000 a lot of deep state
00:38:20.460 nefarious activities.
00:38:22.880 Well, the ball is now
00:38:24.340 squarely in Pam Bondi's court.
00:38:26.780 There's been a criminal referral
00:38:28.100 by Tulsi Gabbard at ODNI
00:38:30.360 about the criminal conspiracy
00:38:33.220 that appears to be manifest
00:38:36.020 from these declassifications.
00:38:38.560 There is the lingering question
00:38:40.580 about what level of accountability
00:38:42.800 to seek and who
00:38:45.080 and how to structure that case.
00:38:47.840 I think that Pam Bondi
00:38:49.340 has an unenviable job right now
00:38:52.460 torn between the Epstein affair,
00:38:55.400 the Russiagate affair.
00:38:57.840 I think that Pam Bondi
00:38:59.380 probably wanted to do business
00:39:01.080 as normal,
00:39:02.260 you know,
00:39:02.660 in terms of just running
00:39:04.200 the criminal justice
00:39:05.460 day-to-day affairs
00:39:06.940 of the Justice Department.
00:39:09.500 And now things are getting
00:39:11.060 very hot on many fronts.
00:39:13.500 Obviously, if you bring a case
00:39:15.060 in D.C.
00:39:15.740 against someone like Obama
00:39:17.100 or John Brennan or the like,
00:39:19.320 you're going to get
00:39:20.020 a hometown jury
00:39:20.940 where you have a
00:39:21.700 something like 93% Democrat
00:39:23.800 jury pool.
00:39:25.020 And so I think any way
00:39:27.500 that you can get
00:39:28.500 that jurisdiction,
00:39:29.300 if you were to bring a case
00:39:30.900 in a court in Florida,
00:39:33.840 for example,
00:39:34.340 to the extent that
00:39:35.000 they targeted Trump
00:39:35.960 or used these predicates
00:39:38.380 to raid Trump's house
00:39:39.940 or the like,
00:39:40.980 to get it out of D.C.
00:39:42.420 I think is a really important step
00:39:44.000 in structuring such a case.
00:39:45.600 The fact is,
00:39:46.240 there does need
00:39:46.840 to be accountability.
00:39:48.380 We have now gone
00:39:49.220 to so many wars.
00:39:50.820 We have now had
00:39:51.640 so many crooked twists
00:39:55.120 of our own foreign policy
00:39:56.620 decision-making
00:39:57.640 because of cooked intelligence.
00:40:00.020 Cooked intelligence
00:40:00.720 has got to be a crime
00:40:02.280 because if you rely
00:40:03.900 on that intelligence
00:40:04.680 to go to war
00:40:05.800 or to use sanctions policy
00:40:07.380 against a foreign country
00:40:08.600 or to fundamentally change
00:40:10.900 the nature of U.S. diplomacy,
00:40:12.940 Internet censorship
00:40:13.780 was only brought
00:40:15.340 to the United States
00:40:16.200 because of Russiagate.
00:40:17.220 That was the reason
00:40:18.720 that the CIA
00:40:19.680 and FBI
00:40:20.540 and DHS justified
00:40:22.180 cracking down on
00:40:23.720 and infiltrating
00:40:24.540 U.S. social media companies
00:40:25.920 was because of some
00:40:27.300 total bull
00:40:29.420 shish kebab
00:40:31.860 bull shish kebab
00:40:32.940 that was concocted
00:40:34.460 in a friggin' lab
00:40:35.880 by Barack Obama,
00:40:37.740 John Brennan,
00:40:38.860 James Comey,
00:40:40.260 and Loretta Lynch.
00:40:42.400 There should be,
00:40:43.400 if, so,
00:40:44.380 so, I mean,
00:40:45.160 I think that class action lawsuits
00:40:46.880 might be appropriate
00:40:47.840 for this sort of thing,
00:40:49.420 that these revelations,
00:40:52.180 they have to have,
00:40:53.740 someone needs to be held up
00:40:55.320 as a symbol
00:40:56.100 that the next time
00:40:57.920 our crooked spooks
00:41:00.420 in the intel world
00:41:01.600 think that they can just
00:41:03.020 cook intelligence
00:41:03.780 to permanently change
00:41:05.020 the trajectory
00:41:06.460 of U.S. foreign policy
00:41:08.420 and domestic affairs,
00:41:09.640 that there's someone
00:41:10.640 they can point to
00:41:11.560 that they don't want
00:41:12.720 to end up like,
00:41:14.040 and that process
00:41:14.800 has to begin now.
00:41:17.600 Mike Benz,
00:41:18.580 as always,
00:41:19.160 thank you so much
00:41:19.600 for coming on the show.
00:41:21.020 If people want to follow you
00:41:21.860 in the meantime
00:41:22.260 before we have you back on,
00:41:23.580 which something tells me
00:41:24.500 will be very soon,
00:41:25.840 where can they go
00:41:26.500 to do that?
00:41:27.960 Find me on
00:41:28.820 X at Mike Benz Cyber,
00:41:30.420 also YouTube,
00:41:31.860 Rumble,
00:41:32.260 the works.
00:41:34.680 Thank you, sir.
00:41:37.580 I would also add
00:41:38.660 to what Mike said,
00:41:39.440 that I think the journalists
00:41:40.540 who have hoax after hoax
00:41:42.480 peddled the lies
00:41:44.020 coming from the likes
00:41:45.380 of Brennan and Clapper
00:41:46.400 all the way probably
00:41:47.160 to the top with Obama,
00:41:48.620 that they should face
00:41:49.340 some form of charges too.
00:41:51.540 I was talking with Steve
00:41:52.420 in the break,
00:41:53.140 but those three
00:41:54.260 Washington Post journalists,
00:41:56.200 it's very interesting,
00:41:57.360 two of them,
00:41:58.100 Ellen Nakashima
00:41:59.100 and the other guy, Greg,
00:42:00.380 I think the other one departed
00:42:01.760 to go work at the New York Times,
00:42:03.800 but they have been
00:42:05.380 essentially the go-to journalists
00:42:07.280 on every single byline,
00:42:09.120 whether it was
00:42:09.720 the Hunter Biden stuff,
00:42:11.360 the first impeachment
00:42:12.240 of President Trump,
00:42:13.200 the anonymous whistleblowers
00:42:14.640 saying that President Trump
00:42:16.000 pressured Zelensky
00:42:17.080 in that now infamous phone call,
00:42:19.840 in the same way
00:42:20.360 that Natasha Bertrand
00:42:21.320 is the reporter
00:42:21.940 that's always getting those leaks,
00:42:23.460 or who was it at the Atlantic,
00:42:25.160 Jeffrey Goldberg,
00:42:26.060 not just the signal stuff,
00:42:27.460 but also the, you know,
00:42:28.660 Trump and the Hitler generals
00:42:30.000 and the saying
00:42:31.000 he didn't care about
00:42:31.880 dead soldiers,
00:42:33.620 which was, of course,
00:42:34.320 amplified by Brennan and Clapper
00:42:35.880 and that whole squad
00:42:37.020 all over MSNBC,
00:42:39.080 but those people
00:42:39.800 should face consequences,
00:42:41.600 dare I say,
00:42:42.120 retribution too,
00:42:43.660 and I guess my only other
00:42:44.740 suggestion,
00:42:45.940 when President Trump
00:42:46.600 says it's the 2016
00:42:47.760 and 2020 election,
00:42:49.380 it's also the 2024 election,
00:42:51.400 not just because
00:42:51.960 they tried to keep
00:42:52.840 you off the ballot,
00:42:54.220 they obviously peddled
00:42:55.220 hoax and hoax again,
00:42:56.660 they tried to replay
00:42:57.580 the Christopher Steele stuff,
00:42:59.600 I believe the headline
00:43:00.280 from the Post was,
00:43:01.560 the Steele dossier
00:43:02.280 author promises
00:43:03.020 more Trump dirt,
00:43:03.880 will anyone buy it?
00:43:05.220 No, the answer
00:43:06.180 is a resounding no,
00:43:07.640 but I think the reason
00:43:08.960 why this matters
00:43:10.160 and frankly why it ties
00:43:11.120 into the Epstein stuff
00:43:12.140 is because it ties
00:43:12.960 into the 2028
00:43:14.040 and every future election
00:43:15.660 and consequential election too,
00:43:17.320 because you won't have elections,
00:43:18.980 that's the biggest takeaway,
00:43:20.780 right?
00:43:21.040 It doesn't matter
00:43:23.420 who you vote for
00:43:24.280 if his entire authority
00:43:25.500 is going to be
00:43:26.220 completely neutered,
00:43:27.480 nullified,
00:43:27.980 and stripped away from him
00:43:28.900 by a band of unelected,
00:43:31.140 despotic people
00:43:32.060 like Brennan and Clapper.
00:43:33.880 Just awful.
00:43:34.940 We'll be right back.
00:43:35.740 Mike Howell after the break.
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00:45:01.280 Here's your host,
00:45:02.800 Stephen K. Bannon.
00:45:03.860 Welcome back to The War Room.
00:45:09.540 There's obviously
00:45:10.000 a lot of movement
00:45:10.960 on Fed Chair Powell.
00:45:12.480 I think we're going to have
00:45:13.040 the guys from CRA on soon
00:45:14.980 to go through a lot of that.
00:45:16.580 We were supposed to have them on today
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00:45:33.880 so give Philip Patrick
00:45:34.900 and the team a call.
00:45:37.100 We've got Mike Howell on
00:45:38.360 who I wanted to bring on.
00:45:39.440 If we had time
00:45:39.980 we'll have to hit the Epstein stuff later
00:45:41.500 but you flagged something
00:45:42.940 that I think this audience
00:45:43.820 is going to be really passionate about
00:45:45.400 especially when it comes
00:45:46.360 to our anti-amnesty fight
00:45:49.040 particularly what GOP,
00:45:51.140 Rhino, you know the type
00:45:52.480 was appointed to essentially
00:45:54.240 or elected rather
00:45:55.200 to chair the House
00:45:56.280 Homeland Security Committee.
00:45:58.660 Can you walk us
00:45:59.540 through this development?
00:46:01.480 Yeah, so Mark Green
00:46:03.440 who's the chairman
00:46:04.640 as of a couple days ago
00:46:05.680 resigned early
00:46:06.340 to take a job
00:46:07.020 in the private sector
00:46:07.900 and left an opening
00:46:09.060 and ultimately a decision
00:46:10.540 with Speaker Johnson
00:46:11.480 and what is known
00:46:12.580 as the Steering Committee.
00:46:14.280 They opted to pick
00:46:15.820 a member, Andrew Gavarino
00:46:17.460 who has a record
00:46:18.980 of supporting amnesty
00:46:20.140 and other kind of
00:46:21.640 way more moderate takes
00:46:22.780 I guess we'll charitably call them
00:46:23.960 he voted for
00:46:25.060 to establish
00:46:25.640 the January 6th Commission
00:46:27.000 committee rather
00:46:28.520 and also voted
00:46:29.640 for Biden's infrastructure bill
00:46:30.940 and so that was
00:46:32.860 in favor of voting
00:46:33.940 for somebody
00:46:34.420 actually aligned
00:46:35.200 with President Trump
00:46:36.200 and anti-amnesty
00:46:37.480 and Representative Clay Higgins.
00:46:39.340 Why this is important
00:46:40.240 is because we know
00:46:41.140 that there's a real big threat
00:46:42.760 of amnesty coming
00:46:43.800 down the pike.
00:46:45.180 Legislation's already
00:46:45.920 been introduced.
00:46:47.180 There have been various nods
00:46:48.340 coming out of various
00:46:49.180 administration officials
00:46:50.360 and so when you add
00:46:51.700 to the mix
00:46:52.140 one of the most senior officials
00:46:53.280 in the entire House
00:46:54.180 in charge of
00:46:55.140 Homeland Security legislation
00:46:56.340 who has a record
00:46:57.280 being supportive
00:46:58.320 of amnesty
00:46:58.860 and explicitly saying
00:47:00.200 he agrees
00:47:00.780 with Chuck Schumer
00:47:02.000 it's unfortunate to report
00:47:03.480 I think the threat
00:47:04.660 of a legislative amnesty push
00:47:06.040 just got a lot more serious.
00:47:08.840 Mike, we'll have you back on
00:47:10.040 because I think
00:47:10.420 this is important
00:47:11.160 but in the meantime
00:47:12.140 is there anything
00:47:13.460 that the posse can do
00:47:14.600 in terms of phone calls
00:47:15.600 to maybe reverse this
00:47:16.720 or at least
00:47:17.120 ameliorate it
00:47:18.080 somehow
00:47:18.760 or you guys are always
00:47:19.960 at the tip of the spear
00:47:20.620 when it comes to investigations
00:47:21.720 where can they go
00:47:23.020 to check out everything
00:47:23.780 you guys are working on
00:47:24.660 and support what you're doing?
00:47:26.340 Yeah, most important thing
00:47:27.760 is keep sounding the alarm
00:47:28.820 that amnesty in any form
00:47:30.080 will not be tolerated.
00:47:31.840 Follow us on X
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00:47:33.640 and I'm at mhowltweets
00:47:34.800 and we're going to be
00:47:35.420 sounding that alarm
00:47:36.460 right along with you.
00:47:38.760 Thank you, sir.
00:47:39.600 No amnesty.
00:47:40.260 I thought we didn't have to
00:47:41.360 argue for this anymore.
00:47:43.020 I don't like these
00:47:43.660 shifting goalposts.
00:47:45.060 I thought that that
00:47:45.660 should be a given
00:47:47.220 or just fighting
00:47:48.260 to go to zero.
00:47:49.600 This is not a net positive.
00:47:53.820 Thank you, Mike.
00:47:54.580 We'll have you back on.
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00:49:35.420 Before we go to Mike Lindell,
00:49:36.800 just some concluding thoughts.
00:49:38.520 There's a clip
00:49:38.980 that I think maybe
00:49:39.540 they'll play in the six,
00:49:41.100 but you know,
00:49:41.880 at the point in which
00:49:42.720 these,
00:49:43.680 shall we say,
00:49:44.300 grievous injustices
00:49:45.480 not just against
00:49:46.200 President Trump,
00:49:46.880 but the MAGA movement,
00:49:47.720 more broadly,
00:49:49.260 are allowed to continue
00:49:50.780 to the point
00:49:51.480 where they can be declassified
00:49:52.940 and released
00:49:53.560 in the,
00:49:54.180 you know,
00:49:54.400 open public
00:49:54.920 to the American people.
00:49:56.400 And if they can still
00:49:57.500 get away with it
00:49:58.680 and no charges are brought
00:50:00.880 or no actual,
00:50:02.100 yes,
00:50:02.360 I'm going to say the word
00:50:03.400 retribution,
00:50:04.460 though we call it justice
00:50:05.280 here in the war room,
00:50:06.160 actually materializes,
00:50:08.180 then I think it's essentially
00:50:09.260 just scoring own goals.
00:50:11.160 And it's almost sad
00:50:12.780 and weak in a way
00:50:14.160 to the point
00:50:15.120 where we're showing
00:50:16.020 what the deep state
00:50:16.820 can get away with,
00:50:18.640 totally unaccounted.
00:50:20.160 We're basically
00:50:20.920 making the case for them
00:50:22.140 that they're so powerful
00:50:23.140 that they can treat us
00:50:24.200 this way,
00:50:24.840 we can both out it
00:50:25.740 in the public,
00:50:26.920 court of public opinion,
00:50:28.540 and nothing's going
00:50:30.160 to happen to them.
00:50:30.860 You're just going
00:50:31.300 to embolden them
00:50:32.080 to keep doing it
00:50:32.920 and doing it
00:50:33.440 and doing it again.
00:50:34.640 And let's juxtapose that.
00:50:35.940 I mean,
00:50:36.400 what,
00:50:36.700 Doge and the Trump
00:50:37.360 administration
00:50:37.940 weren't even allowed to,
00:50:39.380 barely could go into USAID
00:50:41.300 without complete apoplexy
00:50:42.660 in the entire city
00:50:43.420 of Washington, D.C.,
00:50:44.540 to fire a few
00:50:45.700 unelected bureaucrats
00:50:47.320 at an agency
00:50:48.020 where they were working on,
00:50:49.160 I don't know,
00:50:49.620 things, frankly,
00:50:50.640 pretty detrimental
00:50:51.220 to the United States
00:50:52.260 of America.
00:50:53.440 I guess the euphemistic spin
00:50:54.620 that it was just,
00:50:55.240 you know,
00:50:55.460 tranny operas
00:50:56.300 in Columbia,
00:50:57.780 but really problematic programs.
00:51:01.040 And think about
00:51:01.640 the pushback
00:51:02.340 that those unelected bureaucrats
00:51:03.760 are the people
00:51:04.180 that they had
00:51:04.680 their Praetorian guard.
00:51:06.140 Meanwhile,
00:51:06.620 you have Brennan and Clapper,
00:51:08.140 the whole squad,
00:51:08.980 the whole crew,
00:51:09.580 the whole cabal up there,
00:51:11.300 subverting the will
00:51:12.600 of an elected president
00:51:14.480 by you guys,
00:51:15.600 and they get away with it.
00:51:17.240 So I'm all for declassification,
00:51:19.100 but declassification
00:51:19.840 means nothing
00:51:20.700 if nothing happens
00:51:21.680 on the other side of it.
00:51:23.180 So we'll be waiting
00:51:24.540 for you, Pam Bondi.
00:51:26.160 I'm sure we are all waiting
00:51:27.480 for Mike Lindell
00:51:28.120 who's going to take us
00:51:28.940 out of this show.
00:51:29.860 Mike Lindell,
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