Episode 4652： Guilty Of Treason; Rebuilding The AI Industry By Putting The American People First
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Todd McCartan and Chris Brown join host Alex Blumberg to discuss President Trump's comments on former President Barack Obama and his comments about Russia's involvement in the 2016 election. They also discuss whether or not the president should be prosecuted for treason.
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The Office of Presidency, our office did not normally dignify the constant nonsense and
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misinformation flowing out of the White House's response. These claims are outrageous enough to
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merit one. These bizarre allegations are ridiculous and a weak attempt at its distraction.
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Nothing in the document issued last week undercuts the widely accepted conclusion that Russia worked
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to influence the 2016 presidential election, but did not successfully manipulate any votes.
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These findings were affirmed in a 2020 report by the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee
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led by then chairman Marco Rubio. I did think the Marco Rubio mentioned there was well played.
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Yeah, I mean, that is the thing. His secretary of state signed off on all of this. But you and I
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know this, Chris. Trump is now on the other side of not just Marco Rubio, but Dan Bongino and Cash
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Patel and to some degree, Tulsi Gabbard. Like when those are the normies in your administration
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and you're on the other side of them, that tells you something about why these kind of
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oval office, you know, shooting from the hip threats need to be taken a little bit more
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seriously than in season one when it was just kind of a clown show. Now, I mean, I was outside
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the jail on January 20th, Chris. Like I saw the kind of standing army get released out into the cold
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and that was serious. This is all serious. It's ridiculous and transparent, but it's also very
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serious. Yeah, but he's accusing a former president of treason. Right. And on top of that saying
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it may not be right, but I'm going to go after them anyway. What is he talking about? And what kind of
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country are we living in if that is actually what he is doing? Well, first off, I thought the key part
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about President Obama's quote was that the Russians did not actually manipulate any votes.
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Wait a minute. Wait a minute. In the immediate aftermath of the 2016 election, you could hardly
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find a Democrat who was not screaming that Russia rigged the election.
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It has been eight years since the immediate aftermath of the 2016 election.
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The fact that Obama is now undoing the Democrat mythology of 2016 is pretty notable.
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As you know, there have been multiple reports. There have been bipartisan, there's been a major
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bipartisan Senate report that was led by Marco Rubio, who now works in Donald Trump's administration.
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We have known for many years that the Russians did not manipulate the votes. Okay.
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In fact, they didn't even influence votes. They've had intentions of the meddling in the election.
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Oh my gosh. Why are we talking about this? This is not the issue. You're trying to avoid
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this subject. No, President Obama said that Russia did not manipulate any votes. We should
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note that. Because every liberal in America said that was the case. All right, noted.
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You were doing everything you possible not to talk about the fact that the President of
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the United States, the current President of the United States, just accused a former
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President of treason and suggested a prosecution of that former President with no evidence.
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That is the problem. You can calm down. I don't think he's guilty of treason. I don't think
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he'll be prosecuted. Well, why don't you talk about that instead of talking about Obama?
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Because Obama just undid three years of Democrat mythology. What?
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Please let's not talk about this. I don't want to talk about your distractions. The problem
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is, this is what Trump does. He distracts everybody. He's talking about President Obama because
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he doesn't want to talk about Epstein. He's talking about the Washington commanders and
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the Cleveland Guardians because he doesn't want to talk about Epstein. He releases the Martin
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Luther King files because he doesn't want to talk about Epstein. He's doing everything
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possible except talking about Jeffrey Epstein because he's trying to throw up distractions
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so the people like you, Todd, can come on TV and try to disfuse the issue.
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I have tried to agree with you, and you're violently not letting me.
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I'm not doing anything. I've said he's not guilty of treason. He shouldn't be prosecuted.
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Well, remembering that this all goes back to 2016 is, I think, the key thing here. So if you're
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talking about statute of limitations, I think is the first thing that comes to my mind when
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you're talking about all of this, even if there were any validity to any of the allegations
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that were being made. But I think you're right to highlight the president's words there and how
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extremely out of line they are in terms of the normal procedures for the Justice Department
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and for the White House. Normally, there is more of that break between the White House and the Justice
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Department. And what we've seen during this administration is sort of a shattering of those
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norms and them sort of working extremely closely together and Pambani sort of taking direct
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directions directly from from President Trump. So that's just a very unusual circumstance that
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we're in here. But, you know, this is, I think, one of the having that response from Obama is
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certainly is certainly something that sticks out here because he has been quiet in the past.
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But I think it speaks to just how unusual some of these statements are coming. Remember, during
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when Donald Trump was actually being prosecuted for two separate federal crimes, which were
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ultimately, of course, those cases were dismissed after he was elected president, giving longstanding
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precedent that the White House under Joe Biden was very careful about what they were saying about
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that ongoing case. And for a president to come out and declare someone guilty of a crime, which
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they haven't even been charged with, is really, I think, is sort of really outside of the normal
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way, outside of the normal procedures that we would see here.
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Director of National Intelligence. Oh, where's Tulsi? She's like hotter than everybody.
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She's the hottest one in the room right now because she found out with certainty. We I think
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we knew it before in all fairness, Tulsi. But now you have certainty. She has all the documents.
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She has everything that you need. And she found out that Barack Hussein Obama led a group of people
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and they cheated in the elections and they cheated without question. It's not even a quote. Would you say
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there's even a little question there, Tulsi? She says no. And you found things that nobody thought
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we'd ever find. And I'm very happy and very honored to have you with us. She's right now by far
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Speaker. She's hotter than you right now, Speaker. She's the hottest person in the room right now,
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Speaker. So Tulsi, great job. And I know you have a lot more coming. She told me you've seen nothing yet.
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So I heard those rumors about you, but now I know they're true. So we're very proud of you, Tulsi.
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They cheated so badly and ultimately it led to a loss in 2020 and it shouldn't have been a loss.
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It was a big victory. We won by a lot. We had to do it again. But if I thought we lost, I would never
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have run again. And this is a far more consequential election than it would have been if we did.
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That's the only thing I can say in favor of it. But we can't, we can't ever let that happen again
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to our country. They don't give up. You know what? And so we can talk about this till the cows come
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home. This is not on top of mind of the Americans to take care of business. They just don't care.
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That's it, Donald Trump. He's the one who's making this addition. He's the one who's talking about all
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these irrelevant things. I'm just telling you. Why don't you, why don't you say, go take this
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message to the Oval Office, Kevin. You have access to the president. Tell Donald Trump to stop talking
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about this diversion. You're not a fan of Trump at all. Yeah, but go talk to him. You think that we
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should be talking about more serious issues. So tell Donald Trump to stop talking about the
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Washington. It doesn't matter to people. Tell Donald Trump. I'm going to agree with Keith again.
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I don't know why you would be yelling at Keith about this. It, to his point, it is Donald Trump
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who has brought up Obama. It is Donald Trump who has made the Epstein story a story for over a week
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now. Give me your response to what we heard from former president Obama there. He's saying that none
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of this makes any sense, that this is a distraction. What do you say to that?
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It's the art of deflection coming from former president Obama, as well as his friends who are still in
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Congress today and Senator Warner and Congressman Jim Himes, really all basically saying that exact
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same statement, which doesn't actually address the issue that was revealed in great detail in the
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over a hundred documents that we released last week and the documents that we will be releasing
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later this week. That point to the undeniable fact that you laid out in your introduction to this
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segment is that the intelligence community had one assessment that Russia did not have the intent
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or capability to try to impact the outcome of the U S election leading up to election day.
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The same assessment was made after Donald Trump was elected by the American people as president in
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2016, defeating Hillary Clinton. And it wasn't until after that pulled president's daily brief document
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that you referenced that the principles committee was called in the national security council and
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that president Obama then directed, uh, then his Obama's ODNI, uh, DNI, James Clapper to lead the effort to
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create this new intelligence community assessment that detailed, not if, but how Moscow attempted to
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influence the outcome of the U S election. So this is the thing that I think people should pay attention to is
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neither the message from president Obama's office, neither the statements coming from Democrats in Congress today,
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and their friends in the propaganda media. None of them are addressing this fact that there was a
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shift, 180 degree shift from the intelligence community's assessment leading up to the election
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to the one that president Obama directed be produced after Donald Trump won the election that completely
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contradicted those assessments that had come previously. The second thing I want to address that's very
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important, Laura, is that, uh, you, you, in the clip that you played, uh, you saw John Brennan,
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James Clapper, James Comey stated with high confidence, this January intelligence community
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assessment that they drafted at the direction of president Obama. The fact is that they used
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already discredited information like the steel dossier. They knew it was discredited at that time,
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yet they used it as a source for this document that they claim to have high confidence in.
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They used intelligence that some of these intelligence community professionals rejected
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previously because of the lack of credibility and the lack of the ability to vet with any kind of
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confidence, whether or not that information or intelligence was accurate and could be used for
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an assessment. There's a long laundry list of facts and intelligence reporting that directly contradict
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the statement coming from president Obama's office, uh, and those who are trying to deflect away from
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what actually happened, which was after Donald Trump was elected, uh, led by president Obama,
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there was an effort to create an, a doc, a document that would serve as a foundation for what would be
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a years long coup against president Trump, therefore trying to subvert the will of the American people
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who sent him to the white house in 2016. It's Wednesday, 23 July year of the Lord, 2025,
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a long cold open. We could play many, many, many more minutes of just amazing content from when
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president Trump threw down hard yesterday in the oval office and Obama responded with a, with deflection.
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And quite frankly, I think a bald face, a lie. This shows you how nervous they are. Barack Obama responded
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to president Trump's beat down from the oval office in front of a head of state and on global television
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yesterday. And of course it's a firestorm right now in DC is all these rats are running off the,
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are going down the rat line of the, uh, radical left democratic party. John Solomon joins us. John,
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put this in perspective because you and I've been working on this one for years. Finally,
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and Tulsi Gabbard finally got her shout out by president Trump last night at the reception for
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the Congress. Um, finally, and she's been taking incoming. The reason she's been taking incoming folks
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is that she's been on the right side of every issue, but you can see she's a safe pair of hands.
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Solomon, uh, your thoughts, brother. Well, let's take Barack Obama's statement at the start.
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None of this makes sense. Let's make sense of it for your audience. Barack Obama attends a meeting
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in July, 2016, before crossfire hurricane is opened by the FBI targeting, uh, the Republican nominee
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for the 2016 presidential election. And he's told Hillary Clinton is going to invent the scandal.
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She's going to hate, hang a fake Russian signal on Donald Trump's campaign house and make it look
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like Vladimir Putin is trying to help him win the election. They know the fixes in at the beginning.
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Barack Obama does not stop his FBI or his intelligence community from then investigating
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that very allegation, though they know it emanates from a dirty trick inside of, uh, the, uh, Trump
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campaign in 20, uh, inside the Hillary Clinton campaign. In fall, after the, uh, uh, first effort
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to defeat Trump failed, they don't defeat him. The Russia stuff doesn't work, even though Christopher
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Steele and others tried to peddle it as hard as they could. Uh, Barack Obama assembles a team. He
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assembles it. He orders this ICA and this intelligence community assessment reverses what
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the intelligence community just concluded that Vladimir Putin in September didn't have a preference
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of which candidate to, uh, when they, he was just trying to sow chaos, which by the way is the
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traditional Soviet playbook to get to that, uh, conclusion. They have to take a document that has
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been fully discredited by December of 2016 and injected into the earlier intelligence
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uh, uh, assessment. That document is the Steele dossier. In December, when they used the Steele
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dossier at Barack Obama's direction, this is the new assessment they're doing, uh, Steele's already
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been fired. It's already been proven that none of the statements in his, um, uh, dossier are true. The
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FBI had a spreadsheet knocking them all down, uh, or that none of them could be corroborated if they
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were knocked, weren't knocked down. And three, they know the rest of the CIA doesn't believe the
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document should be used. And what do they do? They put it in that sauce. And one more thing,
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just real quickly, in January, as he's leaving office, the FBI has cleared Mike Flynn. President
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Obama presides over a meeting with the FBI to figure out how they can keep pursuing Flynn and
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hamper the beginning of the Trump presidency. Barack Obama was at the center of those three actions
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were a major part of the weaponization fire episode. President Trump yesterday called his
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predecessor guilty of treason. The former commander in chief, uh, pretty stunning. John,
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please stick around or take a short commercial break. John Solomon, Mike Davis, Senator Josh Hawley,
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Senator Ron Johnson, uh, Sean Parnell trying to get Sean Parnell. They're coming after Pete Hegseth
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leads during the daily mail today. They got some letters circulating a poison pen letter
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circling over at the building over at, uh, the Pentagon. Sean Parnell is going to be on to explain
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out there. So John Solomon and maybe we put up, Tulsi put up, you can tell what they're doing,
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which is the playbook, you know, every couple of days they're going to put out another big reveal.
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You've been on this one for years. You probably know this better on the details than anyone.
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Just be a guide for us. Where do you think this is going in the next days and weeks ahead, sir?
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We talked about this a couple of weeks ago, Steve, that Kash Patel opened an investigation
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in April inside the FBI. It's a predicated criminal investigation that looks at everything from the
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clearing of Hillary Clinton to the start of Russiagate all the way through Jack Smith raiding
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Florida and the Biden White House sticking the National Archives and telling them to get the FBI
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and Donald Trump in the classified documents case as one continuous criminal conspiracy,
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much like you would look at a drug cartel or an organized crime organization like the mafia.
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When the Justice Department starts an investigation like this, their first step
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is to name a federal strike force, to get a strike force that the best agents and prosecutors
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have them work exclusively on this and develop the different overt acts. What are the overt acts?
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Is it the ordering of the crossfire hurricane? Is it Obama knowing that it's a fake scandal and allowing
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it to go on? Is it hijacking the ICA? You go through that. I think Pam Bondi is on the verge if she
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follows the Justice Department's normal predicate. You got an open conspiracy case to name a federal
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strike force and to move this to the next level. Just think about this. That means the Obama administration
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and the Democrats and all of those who were involved in the weaponization are going to be treated
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just like the mob, just like a drug cartel. They're going to be pursued by a federal
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strike force to determine whether their political conspiracy to get Trump rose to a criminal
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conspiracy. I think that's the next step. I would not be surprised based on how far I know this
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investigation has evolved. If that happened within the next week, that will give us a sense that maybe
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for the first time there's a serious effort to investigate this and to bring accountability all the
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way back from 16 all the way through 24. That's what I'd be watching. I want to, one other thing
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you broke, uh, by the way, that's huge. A federal strike force to bring together their best talent
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on one thing to make sure they pursue this as they would a, a mob investigation or a, uh, or a drug cartel
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using RICO and, uh, in the, in the criminal conspiracy. This is why all the, on MSNBC they're saying,
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well, this happened years ago. Uh, it's only, uh, it's only, uh, he answered, they answered some
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bad questions to Congress and they couldn't, you know, it's, it's just the inadvertent. Uh,
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also you, a couple of weeks ago, you broke this thing on the FBI and the Chinese Communist Party,
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uh, trying to get to 2020. As you see, President Trump continues to come back every time he talks
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and hammers 2020. What, what do you got for us today? There's a bunch of articles now following
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your reporting. What's the latest on that? Well, uh, it's one of the potential overt acts
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in the long running conspiracy. If the FBI, which falsely investigated President Trump,
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uh, created a blockade to, uh, not investigate people like Hillary Clinton fully or Hunter Biden
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fully, remember what the IRS whistleblowers told us. If they also tried to protect Joe Biden by hiding
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or suppressing or not fully investigating a foreign intervention in the 2020 election,
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that would be viewed as another overt act in that wash, uh, rinse, repeat cycle that we talked
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about. Clear the Democrat, pursue the Republican on similar investigations. That's that pattern that
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goes from 16 to 20, Ukraine, uh, Russia, uh, January, uh, six, uh, the classified documents case,
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the same pattern keeps replaying itself. This kind of episode would be an example. The FBI knowingly and
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willfully stopped investigating a credible intelligence report that China was trying to help Joe Biden
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win the election with fake mail-in ballots. They did so even by recalling their intelligence report
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and asking agencies to destroy it. That is, could be considered an overactive misusing the color of
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government to, uh, and leaving the United States vulnerable to the attack of an enemy. And remember,
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all those guys ran out on TV in December 2020 said, no foreign interventions in the election. No,
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well, there was apparently one that they just didn't fully look at. In fact,
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there were two because Iran also hacked the database we learned later. So two foreign interventions,
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but they go on TV and deny it. Why is that? It looks like a coverup for something that went on
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in the summer and fall of 2020. So I think that fits into this conspiracy. It probably is part of
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the strike force. If Pam Bondi goes that direction, uh, these are really, really significant moments
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for people who have waited seven, eight, nine years for accountability. Now I'm not saying it's going to
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happen, but I am saying that this is a tipping point moment where for the first time, a serious
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and complete effort to look at this entire nine year weaponization as a criminal conspiracy,
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that moment is at hand. We'll find out soon if Pam Bondi's in on it.
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John, uh, social media, you're just the news. You've got a great story up on steel dossier today.
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Where do people go to get all your content, sir? Now, more than ever.
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Uh, thank you. Just the news.com. Uh, Jay Solomon reports is the handle on all social media,
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including getter and a truth. And, uh, I get, I'm very lucky every night to follow you at six
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o'clock right here on real American's voice. So those are the best ways to get our great content.
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Thank you, brother. Appreciate you, John Solomon. Uh, do we have time to play the
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cold open for Alina Habab? How long? Let's go and play it. I got Mike Davis here, a big fight in New
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Jersey. Davis is all over this AI, all of it. Let's play it.
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Kind of a dramatic scene at the U.S. Attorney's Office in New Jersey yesterday as the
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Attorney General stepped in after interim U.S. Attorney Alina Habab was replaced there in New
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Jersey. Habab, former personal lawyer for the president, was removed from her post by a panel
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of New Jersey federal judges. But then the Trump administration intervened. So, Lisa, this was an
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interim position of, I think, 120 days. Exactly right. It's time for it to be over and her to go away.
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And that's the case the judge has made here. But now the Attorney General of the United States
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stepping in to try to get her job back. What's going on here? That's exactly what happened.
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So, first of all, she wasn't removed upon the expiration of that 120 days. Either the position
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becomes filled by somebody who's the first assistant United States attorney by statute,
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or the judges can appoint someone to serve as a U.S. Attorney until the president nominates someone
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and the Senate confirm someone. That is, in the usual course, how this is supposed to work.
00:23:27.340
For the avoidance of doubt, yesterday the chief judge of the District of New Jersey issued an
00:23:31.580
order saying that that same first assistant I was still referring to would become the U.S. Attorney.
00:23:36.780
Pam Bondi, in an ex-post last night, called the judges rogue for exercising their statutory prerogative,
00:23:43.820
then fired the first assistant claiming Alina Haba's 120 days weren't yet up. And here we're
00:23:50.060
getting into a semantic dispute about the meaning of the word appointment. President Trump announced
00:23:55.020
that Alina Haba would be serving as the acting U.S. Attorney on March 24th. If you take that as the
00:23:59.900
date, her 120 days was up yesterday. But she was sworn in by Pam Bondi on March 28th. And if that's the
00:24:07.260
operative date, she wasn't yet done. According to Pam Bondi, Desiree Grace, who is the appointee,
00:24:12.940
was still acting as the first assistant as a career prosecutor. Mike Davis, this is a huge fight
00:24:17.900
for President Trump against this radical judiciary. Make this make sense to us. What's going on?
00:24:22.620
Yeah, so the President of the United States has like 93 United States attorneys around the country
00:24:30.140
who are the chief law enforcement officer in each one of these federal districts, including
00:24:36.780
the District of New Jersey. Generally, how it works is the President nominates a U.S. Attorney,
00:24:42.220
that U.S. Attorney is confirmed by the Senate. But you have these Democrat senators like Cory Booker,
00:24:49.260
who doesn't even live in New Jersey. He lives in Manhattan most of the time. But he has used what's
00:24:56.460
called the blue slip, where you have to get the home state senator's approval. The President has to get
00:25:02.540
the home state senator's approval before the Senate will move forward with the nominations of U.S.
00:25:07.980
attorneys, district court judges, and U.S. Marshals. The blue slips are not going away. I always say there
00:25:14.940
would be a hundred senator revolts if these home state senators lost the ability to hand select the
00:25:22.380
U.S. Attorney who would prosecute them, the district court judge who would oversee the trial, and the U.S.
00:25:27.500
Marshal, who would escort them to prison. So I'm just telling you, I tried very hard when I was the
00:25:32.540
chief counsel. But hang on, hang on. I understand they should have consultation rights. But if the
00:25:37.260
blue slips don't go away, the audience is just learning this. That means all these left-wing,
00:25:41.820
this is the reason you have problems in California, you have problems in Illinois, you have problems in
00:25:45.740
New York. You can't enforce anything because they don't let the President and his Article II powers
00:25:51.260
appoint who he wants to appoint, correct? Correct. But I'm telling you,
00:25:56.140
as the chief counsel for nominations for Grassley eight years ago, or whenever the hell it was,
00:26:01.340
I tried hard to get rid of these blue slips. I think it's BS that the President can't pick his
00:26:08.460
own people, but it is something the Senate has had for a hundred years. And like I said,
00:26:13.020
there would be a hundred senator revolts if they got rid of this. So it's not going away. And so you just
00:26:18.460
have to deal with that reality that it's not going away. We got rid of the blue slip veto for circuit
00:26:23.580
judges. And that's how we were able to confirm a record number of President Trump's circuit judges
00:26:29.100
in his first two years under then-chairman Chuck Grassley. But it's not going away.
00:26:33.820
It's huge. Don't get me wrong, the appellate courts. But hold it. So the judges threw Alina out.
00:26:42.940
They appointed her deputy, I guess. And Pam Bondi immediately fired her. Now, did she put Alina
00:26:48.780
back in? She fired the judge's choice. Did she put Alina back in?
00:26:53.180
So here's what happens. Because we can't get Alina to get blue slips from Cory Booker and the other
00:26:58.140
New Jersey senator, whoever the hell that is, another Democrat. So then the Attorney General appointed Alina
00:27:05.420
for a 120-day appointment. Same with Judge Jeanine Pirro in D.C., same with the U.S. Attorney Sarkone
00:27:12.220
up in the Northern District of New York and others, right? So after that 120-day window expires under the
00:27:19.580
Vacancy Reform Act of, I think it's like 1998 or whatever year it is, then the district court judges
00:27:27.100
get to decide whether that's that U.S. Attorney appointed for 120 days stays or goes. I don't think
00:27:34.060
that's constitutional. I think that's a violation of the separation of powers of Article 2. But that's
00:27:38.620
what the statute says, right? So then you had House Democrat leader Hakeem Jeffries come out there
00:27:45.340
publicly and twist the arms of these 17 New Jersey U.S. District Court judges who would vote on Alina.
00:27:51.580
15 of them are appointed by Obama and Biden. And so, of course, it's stacked with radical Democrat
00:27:58.380
activists. They voted to fire Alina Hoppe. Her term ends on Friday. They also said,
00:28:05.500
we're just going to make this Democrat operative in the U.S. Attorney's Office the first assistant.
00:28:10.380
Mike, Mike, hang on for one second. Just hang on one second. I'm holding through the break. We've
00:28:14.860
got to get to the bottom of this. Mike Davis is with us. And we're going to cover so much more.
00:28:19.980
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00:29:44.060
Okay, folks, we're going to juggle a little bit this morning, as I know the War Room Posse is. There's a
00:29:49.260
two-day human trafficking conference going on sponsored by CPAC. Grace and Moe, we're going to
00:29:57.020
try to put that on our alternative channel to stream that. You can see it. I think Marsha,
00:30:00.700
Senator Blackburn already talked. It's going to be great two days in and out. We've got people,
00:30:05.180
Real America's Voice, we're covering that. Also, there's a, and I think the session today is behind
00:30:10.780
closed doors, an AI summit with the tech bros, but the AI action plan, which just got released,
00:30:17.340
Senator Hawley's going to be on to discuss that, his legislation, to try to make sure that there's
00:30:22.380
some controls in here. Mike Davis is also going to talk about that. Mike Davis is also going to talk
00:30:27.420
about appointments, recess for appointments. Why is the Senate going home? All of it. But Mike,
00:30:34.140
Mike, I got to get back to this and let me know when Senator Hawley's up because I know he's pressed
00:30:37.580
for time. So Mike Davis, continue on. They appointed the hack Democrat. Now, did Pam Bondi fire her
00:30:45.900
immediately? Yeah. So they appointed this hack Democrat in New Jersey. The Democrat judges colluded
00:30:52.540
with this woman. They made her the first assistant. But the problem is, is that Lena, Alina still has the
00:30:59.020
job until Friday because she, that's when her 120 day appointment expires. And so Pam fired the first
00:31:05.340
assistant. Now at 120 days, what I presume will happen is that Pam will make Alina the, so she'll
00:31:15.180
be, so this woman who just got fired will become the first assistant again, or someone else. Pam's going
00:31:20.140
to fire that first assistant again on Friday. And if Alina wants the job, and I strongly urge her to take
00:31:26.940
the job, appoints Alina Habba, the first assistant on Friday, and then she becomes the acting U.S.
00:31:34.380
attorney on Friday and doesn't miss a beat. And it's a big middle finger to the 17 district court
00:31:41.100
judges in New Jersey, 15 of whom were appointed by Obama and Biden, that they don't get a pick.
00:31:46.940
President Trump's team, President Trump and Pam Bondi get a pick, his U.S. attorney. And it's
00:31:52.460
unconstitutional what they did. And it, frankly, it's an ethics violation. And I'm going to file
00:31:57.340
a judicial misconduct complaint against these 17 judges, like I filed a House ethics complaint
00:32:03.260
against House Democrat leader, Hakeem Jeffries, and got them all spun up about that because Hakeem
00:32:10.300
Jeffries said that these 17 judges in New Jersey, 15 Obama and Biden appointees needed to fire Alina
00:32:17.740
Haba because Alina Haba sought and got a federal grand jury indictment against a Democrat House
00:32:24.780
member, a piece of trash House member, a bottom feeder who assaulted federal ICE officers allegedly,
00:32:31.340
allegedly meaning on video. And so when Alina brought that indictment, Hakeem Jeffries said that
00:32:37.340
she needed to be fired for that. Well, I don't know how that's not obstruction of justice, but at a
00:32:41.660
minimum, he's going to face a House ethics complaint. And these judges are going to fight
00:32:48.700
I want to pull the camera back for a second, explain. You have Maine justice and Maine justice
00:32:54.220
has these huge departments. Like you have the criminal division, you have civil rights, which you have
00:32:59.900
Harmeet is running in the civil rights division is huge. That's where all the voter situation is.
00:33:05.420
Then. So that's Maine justice with thousands of people. The FBI then is their investigative arm
00:33:11.900
that reports to Maine justice. Then you have 93 U.S. attorneys. So people should understand
00:33:17.020
the whole country is divided up, including the territories into different sections like the
00:33:23.660
Southern District of New York or the Eastern District of New York over in Brooklyn or D.C. or New Jersey.
00:33:29.980
And obviously Los Angeles. Some of these are incredibly powerful because you have the major cities.
00:33:33.900
And this is one of the reasons you have these neo confederates, right? Like Bass,
00:33:38.620
like the mayor of Chicago, like what's happened in New York City. They get these pliant U.S.
00:33:42.940
attorneys because of the blue slips. And they kind of they run like independent
00:33:49.100
the sanctuary cities and independent countries. Where does President Trump stand? This is my whole
00:33:53.980
point about the Senate. You either stick around in August and start approving people. And it's because
00:33:59.740
Judge Deneen. And these are heavy lifts on Judge Deneen, I think, got confirmed.
00:34:03.660
Right. That is D.C. And that's gonna be very powerful. But either do that or you just do recess
00:34:09.180
appointments and get your U.S. attorneys in there. President Trump, the U.S. attorneys, I would argue,
00:34:15.260
are actually more powerful. If you want the Epstein thing situated or back in the days when Acosta was the
00:34:22.140
U.S. attorney in Southern Florida, you have to have a hammer as a U.S. attorney. This is what
00:34:27.100
these U.S. attorneys are important. And this is why Aline Habab is so important in New Jersey,
00:34:32.220
because as you know, that's just an extension of New York City, sir.
00:34:36.460
That's exactly right. U.S. attorneys are very important. They're powerful. They are the chief
00:34:40.940
law enforcement officer in each one of these districts. If you don't get the U.S. attorney to
00:34:45.500
bring an indictment or open an investigation, it doesn't happen, right? It's or it's very hard to make
00:34:50.060
it happen. You essentially have to have the attorney general or the deputy attorney general step in and
00:34:55.420
do it over their heads, which is rare. Fortunately, Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche have backbones of steel,
00:35:01.740
so they'll do stuff like that. But it's rare to get prior attorneys general or deputy attorneys general
00:35:08.060
to do things like that. But we have warriors as AG and deputy AG or DAC. I would say this about-
00:35:15.420
Mike, hang on for one second. I can only get Senator Hawley for a few minutes. Mike Davis is with us.
00:35:19.980
We're going to talk AI after that. Senator Hawley joins us. Senator Hawley, they're promulgating.
00:35:24.940
They have the summit today with the tech bros. They're going to promulgate or promulgating right
00:35:30.060
now the AI plan. You're putting up legislation. Where do we stand with artificial intelligence
00:35:36.300
as of this morning, sir, with your legislation? Well, what we need to do is we need to give every
00:35:41.740
individual American, Stephen, every American worker the right to protect their own personal
00:35:45.980
information. We're talking about your name, your image, their likeness. If it's good enough for
00:35:49.500
college athletes, why shouldn't it be good enough for the American worker? You ought to be able to
00:35:53.580
protect that stuff. If AI wants it from you, they want to train their models on you, that's fine.
00:35:58.860
They should come get your permission and compensate you for it. Right now, they don't. Right now,
00:36:03.100
the attitude is smash and grab. AI comes in and says, all right, I'm going to take everything you
00:36:07.660
posted on Facebook. I'm going to take everything you put up on X. Let's say you're a creator,
00:36:12.780
you're a songwriter, you're a novelist, whatever. They're going to take all of that. They're not
00:36:16.300
going to tell you. They're not going to ask you. They're not going to compensate you.
00:36:19.340
That needs to change. Bottom line for me, Steve, is this. Is AI going to work for people,
00:36:24.220
or are people going to work for AI? And I know what the big companies want. They want us all to work
00:36:28.620
for them and to be their digital slaves. No thanks is my response to that. We need to put the American
00:36:34.780
people, the American worker first here. An America first approach is what we need to adopt.
00:36:39.500
And you don't think, and you're saying, hey, executive orders are fine, but we need to codify
00:36:45.020
this. Is that your point? Yeah, exactly. I mean, listen, we need to give the American people
00:36:49.420
enforceable rights because right now, it may say that, yeah, sure, if you write, if you put something
00:36:55.980
out on Facebook, you may have a copyright to that. AI doesn't care. Facebook doesn't care. Google,
00:37:02.060
they don't care. They come and they scrape it. They train their systems on it. They take your
00:37:07.340
pictures. You put pictures of your kids up on Facebook. They're going to take those. They're
00:37:11.500
going to train their models on them. They're going to do whatever they want with them, and you can't
00:37:15.260
protect it. We need to give every individual American the right to protect their stuff, to
00:37:21.180
protect their data, and pretty soon, Steve, to protect their jobs. I want AI to be good for workers,
00:37:26.700
not take away workers' jobs. So we've got some work to do, and I think we've got to put power
00:37:31.420
into the hands of the people. We're populists, right? I mean, power into the hands of the people.
00:37:35.900
There's nothing more fundamental in America than individual rights, and we need to make
00:37:40.300
sure in this age of AI that every American individual has rights. Yeah, but the tech
00:37:45.740
bros are sitting there saying, look, Hawley and Davis and Bannon, they're a voice for an unruly
00:37:51.900
mob of a bunch of mouth breathers, and they're slowing us down. They're decelerationist, and we're
00:37:58.460
accelerationist because if we're not accelerationist, the Chinese Communist Party is going to own this
00:38:02.700
technology, dominate this technology, and we're going to be essentially slaves to the CCP.
00:38:07.500
Your response, sir? Yeah, then why is it that all those same tech bros want to give all of
00:38:12.700
their technology to China at the same time? I mean, you can't have it both ways, Steve.
00:38:16.540
You can't say that, oh, we've got to beat China. We've got to win. We've got to win. Therefore,
00:38:20.140
AI ought to be able to take everything you own and also in the same breath turn around and say, oh,
00:38:24.300
and by the way, we ought to share all of our tech know-how with China, all of our chips,
00:38:29.980
all of our technology. It ought to be we should be preventing our technology from flowing to China
00:38:35.340
because we are in a race to beat China on this. But listen, the other thing is, let's just remember,
00:38:40.300
Steve, you and I have heard these arguments before. A lot of these arguments from the tech bros sound a
00:38:43.900
heck of a lot like the 1990s in free trade. You remember what they said then. We're going to
00:38:47.740
democratize China. Yeah, we need to trade with China and let them cheat on trade because it's going
00:38:52.700
to be good for us. We're going to change them. We're going to democratize them. Now they're saying,
00:38:56.460
yeah, yeah, yeah. If we just go out there and take every piece of personal property that belongs
00:39:01.100
to every individual American, we'll be able to beat China. I don't believe that for a second.
00:39:05.820
We need to protect the American people, put the American people first. We need to cut off tech
00:39:11.740
from going to China. That's how we actually get stronger in this country. I think what the tech
00:39:16.860
bros want to do is just make money. And I don't care who wins at the end of the day, so long as it's
00:39:21.020
them with their profits. Okay. How do we get more access to your legislation? We want to get the
00:39:26.700
war and posse up to speed so we can start going to the ramparts. How do people do this?
00:39:31.420
Go to joshholly.com. Follow me on any social media, Holly Mo. You can find all of the details there.
00:39:37.180
And this is the time. If we don't do this right now, you look at what you've covered this, Steve. You
00:39:40.940
look at what those tech companies tried to do just in the big, beautiful bill where they tried to slip in
00:39:45.580
that moratorium, 10-year moratorium on any kind of AI guardrails. We got that out of there, but it
00:39:51.740
was tooth and nail fight. That is what these people want. We've got to stop them now. This is the time
00:39:57.100
to start putting the American worker, American individuals first, giving them rights. If we
00:40:01.500
don't do that right now, Steve, they're going to run right over us, and we just cannot have that.
00:40:06.620
I know you've got to bounce for two. You told us it was going to happen. We've gotten some leaks now
00:40:11.500
where I'm talking about later in the show from the NDAA, and your heads will blow up about
00:40:16.300
working with the Chinese Communist Party, but we're going to get to that a little later.
00:40:19.740
Senator Hawley, the president, you're highly respected about when you're talking about the
00:40:23.180
judiciary. You talk about law enforcement. You were AG over in Missouri. We got Mike Davis on. We're
00:40:29.580
going to continue. This U.S. attorneys and the appointment of them and getting people in there,
00:40:34.140
they're part of, you know, President Trump's program as it should be that this whole thing about
00:40:38.940
is the Senate going to stick around or going to do recess appointments. Can you put it in framework,
00:40:43.340
what are we doing here? Because, you know, you've got this Alina Habab fight in New Jersey,
00:40:48.780
but you've also got all these issues with U.S. attorneys around the rest of the country. What
00:40:52.620
is your recommendation to the president of what a solution is here? Well, my recommendation is that
00:40:58.860
we make clear to the Democrats real quick that if they keep this up, what they're doing is
00:41:02.220
unprecedented, Steve. They're filibustering every single nominee, every single
00:41:08.460
Trump nominee for everything, all the U.S. attorneys, all the judges at any level,
00:41:14.620
every single person. I mean, the deputy secretary to this, that, and the other thing,
00:41:18.540
they are filibustering all of these people. So I think we've got to make it real clear to them,
00:41:21.420
listen, if you want to keep this up, the Senate will be in continuous session forever.
00:41:25.820
We will just, if you want to take one vote and wait 10 hours and take another vote,
00:41:29.500
which is what they're making us do now, that's going to be your choice. But we are going to stay in
00:41:33.740
and plow through these things. And I also think, I heard you mention recess appointments earlier,
00:41:37.740
Democrats just need to understand, you play this game and you say to President Trump,
00:41:41.900
we're not going to allow you to staff your own government. This is the duly elected president
00:41:45.980
of the United States. If your message to him is, and every future president, we're not going to let
00:41:50.460
you staff your government, then you can't whine and complain when President Trump says, well,
00:41:54.060
I'm going to start doing recess appointments. Because this is, the Democrats are playing a dangerous
00:41:58.300
game here. I think we've got to expose them, Steve, and we've got to put them on the horns of the dilemma
00:42:01.740
and say, we're not going to let you get by with this. If they get by with this,
00:42:05.580
it's not just Trump. Any future president, you won't be able to get a government. You won't be
00:42:10.060
able to get your U.S. attorneys in there. You won't be able to prosecute crime. We cannot have that.
00:42:15.420
Senator Hawley, one more time, where do people get the information on your bill and everything
00:42:21.100
Hawley Moe is my social media and JoshHawley.com. You can find it all there.
00:42:28.140
Davis, we've got a minute before we go to break. Explain to the people what Josh Hawley just told
00:42:33.980
us. Is this unprecedented? They're actually, they're slowing it down, slow walking and filibustering
00:42:39.420
every appointment, even these deputy assistant secretaries at the different cabinet positions?
00:42:43.820
Yes, they are. It used to be that you would confirm U.S. attorneys and U.S. marshals and non-controversial
00:42:52.940
nominees through voice votes or unanimous consent. You wouldn't do a roll call vote.
00:42:57.100
They, these Democrats are intentionally trying to sabotage the will of the American people
00:43:03.020
and our duly elected president. Josh Hawley is the tip of the spear. He's great. He's a former clerk
00:43:10.060
of mine, co-clerk of mine from the 10th Circuit back in 2006 and 2007. He's a great guy. He's a warrior.
00:43:17.260
And what needs to happen is we need to lean in on this week. This is unacceptable. We need to force
00:43:24.620
the Senate Republicans, the Senate Democrats to work through August. If they're going to filibuster,
00:43:32.460
Mike, hang on for one second. Mike Davis is going to stick with us.
00:43:35.180
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Okay. Saturday, we're gonna have Judy Shelton on who knows the Fed inside and out the inside of it,
00:45:12.780
the operations of it. Scott Besson's called for a complete review of everything with the Fed.
00:45:16.860
Uh, obviously this, the Versailles on Connecticut Avenue is one issue, but it's deeper than that.
00:45:23.420
Uh, Jim said yesterday, uh, the, uh, from 1836 to 1913, we didn't even have a central bank. This was
00:45:31.180
Andrew Jackson's populist fight was to make sure we didn't have a bank of the United States. And that
00:45:35.740
was most prosperous. I think we, we ripped through the rest, including a massive civil war. We ripped
00:45:41.980
through the rest of the 19th century and into the 20th on fire, right? Economically. Uh, and we didn't
00:45:48.220
have a central bank. She's going to be on, and Philip Patrick's going to be on from Birch Gold. She's
00:45:52.300
going to talk about gold is ahead. She's going to talk about, uh, fiat currency, Bitcoin, and the
00:45:57.820
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00:46:45.180
this whole thing is Alina Bob. Okay. So here's what's going to happen. She's going to,
00:46:48.460
her 120 days runs out. They're going to put the deputy up or the assistant's first assistant.
00:46:53.740
They're going to, Pam's going to fire the first assistant immediately. Uh, she's going to point,
00:46:58.220
uh, Alina, uh, as the, uh, as, as the first assistant. Uh, so she'll be the acting U S
00:47:05.820
attorney in New Jersey. We'll be at the exact same place. You got 17 of these judges. They're
00:47:09.340
going to go crazy. How quickly brother, are they going to go to federal court and sue, uh,
00:47:13.740
the president on this to try to once again, and make it 201 suits. We got in this time on an
00:47:18.860
appointment, sir. Uh, I hope they do it immediately. Cause they'll get their asses kicked again
00:47:24.460
at the Supreme court. Again, Pam is on a big winning streak with the, with, with her, uh,
00:47:31.820
challenges at the Supreme court. I think she's won like 15 of 17 cases with Todd Blanche and, uh,
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John Sauer, the solicitor general, we have an all-star team at the justice department there.
00:47:43.820
They're not going to let these radical Democrat judges in New Jersey play their political games.
00:47:50.300
Uh, that's why I filed a house ethics complaint against Hakeem Jeffries, the house Democrat leader
00:47:56.540
who put pressure on these judges to do what they did. And I'm also going to file a judicial misconduct
00:48:02.060
complaint against these judges because they violated cannons two, three, and five of the code of
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conduct for United States judges that their ethics, when they made this political decision,
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these judges don't get to play politics. If you're going to get rid of a U S attorney like this,
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you need to have an explanation. There was no explanation and it was arbitrary and capricious
00:48:23.100
under our law. And the only, the only takeaway we can have about this, it was political. They were,
00:48:30.060
they were, they had their arms twisted by Hakeem Jeffries and these, uh, these 17 New Jersey
00:48:36.140
federal judges, uh, they, they played politics. But Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, this cause all
00:48:43.340
the stuff's industry link. We wouldn't have had this problem or it wouldn't be this bad if the
00:48:48.300
house judiciary committee on your recommendation a hundred days ago, when this thing first started
00:48:52.940
to kick up, they were going to use these radical judges to stort president Trump's program. If we
00:48:57.420
had had Boesburg or one of these radicals in DC in front of the house on national television,
00:49:02.860
being grilled these other judges, cause they hide behind the cloak anonymity. And this is why they
00:49:08.540
do it. Why have we not done that? Why have we not put a judge and make them infamous
00:49:12.940
on national television? And then the rest of the judges will be running for cover, sir.
00:49:17.980
That's a good question. Steve, maybe if Alina Habba wore a, uh, you know, a Google or a meta hoodie,
00:49:24.140
then Jim Jordan would actually do something to help her. But unless that happens, I, I just don't see
00:49:29.020
that Jim Jordan's doing much to, to, to hold these judges accountable for, for their, uh,
00:49:34.540
their, their, their politicized and weaponized lawfare against the president of the United States,
00:49:41.260
against the duly elected president of the United States. This is really a sabotage of we, the people,
00:49:47.100
our sovereign power to, uh, to, to control our destiny as a country, to elect a president for
00:49:54.700
the president to have a team. This is a judicial sabotage of our, uh, of our sovereignty as the
00:50:02.700
American people. This is unacceptable. Davis is all over this. We're going to get your article
00:50:07.980
three real quickly. I know you've been at the forefront for years on this artificial intelligence
00:50:12.060
and making sure that people don't get screwed. The action plan just came out. We're reviewing
00:50:16.380
it, but where, where do we, we're doing the tech bros behind closed doors. President Trump,
00:50:20.940
we're going to cover it live. He's going to go speak this afternoon at about five o'clock in the
00:50:25.660
five to seven hour. We'll cover that. Joe Allen will be with me for commentary and observations.
00:50:29.900
Maybe we get, uh, maybe we get Mike Davis back your thoughts right now, Mike,
00:50:33.580
give me a minute or two on where we stand with this and how important it is for us to have our
00:50:37.420
voices heard in this AI debate. So the tech bros tried to have the justice department file a brief
00:50:45.980
saying that these tech companies, Google, Amazon, Facebook, Apple, these tech bros,
00:50:51.020
these AI oligarchs can steal every copyright in the world. And that's somehow fair use under our
00:50:56.940
copyright laws to train their AI models is what they say, meaning they just want to rip off every
00:51:01.820
copyright in the world and not compensate creators. They lost there when, uh, Todd Blanche shut that
00:51:08.300
down. Then the tech bros tried to fire the librarian of Congress and the registrar of copyrights to give
00:51:13.660
them backdoor access to every copyright in the world. We shut that down. And Todd Blanche is now the
00:51:19.420
acting librarian of Congress and he's not playing their games. And Paul Perkins is the registrar of
00:51:25.340
copyrights. They tried to put AI amnesty in the big, beautiful bill. They almost had it won. And
00:51:31.340
then Steve Bannon's war room and crazy Mike Davis, uh, got that defeated 99 to one, including the,
00:51:37.580
the Senate's lead sponsor, Ted Cruz voting against his own bill. After getting beat 99 to one,
00:51:43.580
they're trying to put it in the national defense authorization act. We're going to shut that down.
00:51:47.980
And now they're putting out this report from the tech bros who are basically smoking pot in the
00:51:53.340
white house basements, uh, and saying that they just, they're just going to keep doing this and
00:51:58.940
we're going to stop them at every turn, right? If we want to win this AI fight, we're going to do
00:52:04.140
it in a pro America way. We're not going to steal like China to compete against China. We're not
00:52:10.860
going to have slave labor, like China to compete against China. We're going to do it the old fashioned
00:52:14.860
way. We're going to do it the American way. And we're going to win. We're going to dominate the
00:52:18.460
American way, not the China way. Fixed bayonets on this one, baby, where they go for article two.
00:52:24.380
Thank you for sticking around for the whole hour and where they go to, uh, for article three, where
00:52:27.820
they go to get you. Article three project.org article number three project.org. Donate,
00:52:32.940
follow us on social media, take action. We have action items on there about, uh, ending the Senate's
00:52:38.940
French work week, ending the high holy month of August recess. So we can get, uh, Trump's nominees
00:52:45.660
confirms on the AI. We are on every battle out there. Every battle front Davis. We love you.
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