Bannon's War Room - July 29, 2025


Episode 4666： Western Liberalism Is A Dying Star

Topics
Western liberalism's waning star Rio reset done with debt Russia's war in Ukraine blackouts & power grid fragility
Hosted by
Steve Bannon
Mentioned
Donald Trump Steve Banatize Jim Rickards Sheila Matthews Ed Luce Putin Shane Tamura Benjamin Netanyahu Nigel Farage Charlie Kirk Getter Philip Patrick Chris Hoare Medvedev Bibi Stephen K. Mann Alexander Hamilton Lindsey Graham Keir Starmer Josh Hawley and 40 more
Episode 4663： Trump Meets With EU Leaders; Bringing Giuliani Era Law And Order To England Episode 4671： Making America Healthy Again; Chinese Surveillance In America

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Shane Tamura, 27, opened fire in the lobby of a building in New York City, killing four people, including a police officer, before apparently taking his own life. On the heels of the mass shooting at a Jewish Center in Times Square, CNN's Peter Bergen and Sarah Abdurrahman discuss the MAGA movement and its impact on the political landscape.

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00:00:00.000 Police are saying this all started around 630 this evening. They say Shane Tamura drove into
00:00:06.440 Midtown Manhattan. He drove his BMW, double parked that BMW on Park Avenue between 51st
00:00:14.360 and 52nd. They say Tamura got out of his BMW alone. They're in Midtown in his right hand.
00:00:22.480 Tamura had an M4 rifle. He walked into the entrance of that building. Stephanie,
00:00:28.080 he walked in, turned to the right and immediately opened fire on an NYPD police officer who is in
00:00:35.040 full uniform. Police say Tamura then shot a woman who was taking cover behind a pillar in the lobby.
00:00:41.900 Tamura then sprayed gunfire throughout the lobby before going to the elevator bank. Now, as he
00:00:47.260 waited for the elevator to arrive, we're told he shot a security guard who is taking cover behind
00:00:52.200 a desk. An elevator door then opened. A woman walked out and we're told police say Tamura allowed
00:00:59.300 the woman to walk past him unharmed. Tamura then got into the elevator, went to the 33rd floor. That 0.97
00:01:05.920 was Rudin Management. He then started firing rounds as he walked the 33rd floor. One person was struck
00:01:13.040 and killed there. Police say Tamura then shot himself in the chest, taking his own life. What do we know
00:01:19.420 about Tamura? We know Shane Tamura is 27 years old. He is from Las Vegas, Nevada. He drove cross country
00:01:27.820 to New York City. Police say he also has a documented mental health history. At this point, police say
00:01:37.040 they have no motive. The mayor saying tonight five innocent people were shot, four innocent people,
00:01:44.280 including a police officer, were killed. Not only in America and center left in America, what their
00:01:50.720 problems are, but those problems, how they're duplicated in Britain and across the rest of
00:01:58.420 Western Europe. That is, first of all, they seem to be soulless, believe, don't know what they believe 0.90
00:02:06.740 in. And secondly, they seem to be intolerant. Walk us through those two.
00:02:11.100 Yeah, this is a pattern that's very clearly Western wide. If you look at the malaise that's
00:02:19.140 affecting, it's not just center left parties, it's center and center right parties. It's the sort of
00:02:24.680 traditional parties of liberal democracy. And I think it's best sort of exemplified by what
00:02:32.360 Keir Starmer's Labour Party is going through in Britain. It's only been in power for a year.
00:02:37.800 But it's in the doldrums and has been almost immediately after it took office, in spite of
00:02:45.860 having won a massive majority. Nigel Farage, the reform party that Donald Trump's friend,
00:02:53.540 Nigel Farage, started is surging in the polls. And you're seeing something very similar in France
00:03:00.140 with Marine Le Pen's far right party there. Macron, the French president, he's rock bottom approval
00:03:08.140 ratings. The new government in Germany, the coalition government between the traditional
00:03:13.840 social Democrats and Christian Democrats, only in office a few months, is now behind in the polls to
00:03:19.680 the AFD, the far right German AFD party, that J.D. Vance and Elon Musk and others keep boosting.
00:03:27.680 And of course, we have a populist in office here in the United States, but with Democrats not doing
00:03:33.860 well. And I think the pattern here is the left, the centrists don't really have much conviction about
00:03:39.720 what they stand for. They cannot explain their stance on a bumper sticker. And people like Farage,
00:03:49.140 people like Trump, people like Le Pen can. And so when the left is in office, the right surge. But
00:03:55.880 when the right is in office, the left don't surge. So what I call the law of political laws of hydraulics
00:04:02.880 are broken there. The left is not breaking through.
00:04:08.140 One of the sort of tenets of modern republicanism was they sort of just unabashed, complete support
00:04:13.740 for Israel. But we are seeing some phrase there in the in the MAGA coalition. We have seen
00:04:19.520 not just Steve Banatize, but lawmakers suggest this is this is too much. And now we have President
00:04:25.520 Trump showing real frustration. The question is, you know, per your reporting, Republicans you speak to,
00:04:31.580 what is that? Is that going to translate into action?
00:04:34.260 So I don't I don't think it translates in the short term or even the medium term to a lack of
00:04:39.340 military and other aid for Israel. I think support for Israel in the Congress will remain strong. But I
00:04:45.200 think you have to look at two things. And you referenced the MAGA movement, right? President
00:04:50.060 Trump, we know, just doesn't like bad headlines, regardless of how credible they are, regardless
00:04:54.880 of what's behind them. He does not like them. And that is likely to cause him to put some
00:05:01.260 pressure on Benjamin Netanyahu, either to tell him, you better make the case that this isn't
00:05:06.440 what everybody thinks it is, or you better clean it up. And the other thing, and we've talked about
00:05:11.400 this in recent days, younger populist conservatives do not have the same affinity for Israel that rank
00:05:19.740 and file Republicans do. And I think Israel needs to be cognizant of that. We talk a lot about younger
00:05:25.460 progressives and how they feel about Israel and what that's doing inside the Democratic Party's
00:05:30.500 coalition. But younger populist conservatives coming up in the Republican Party don't feel
00:05:36.140 about Israel the way Republicans have over the past 25, 30 years. And that's something that the
00:05:42.140 Netanyahu government has to be or should be aware of. Finally, I would say what is very interesting
00:05:46.260 here, there was once a very vibrant peace movement within Israeli politics, right? There was a lot of
00:05:53.080 support for a two-state solution. And there was a big split in Israeli politics over that. After years
00:05:58.560 of terrorist attacks, threats by Iran, that peace movement evaporated. And Netanyahu has been in
00:06:06.500 power so long, in part because there has been such a focus by Israeli voters on security and no trust in
00:06:14.000 any sort of peace movement. So the fact that we're seeing voices within Israel speak up in the way that
00:06:19.560 they are is a very significant development in Israeli politics.
00:06:23.560 A man with a rifle entered a high-rise building during rush hour yesterday evening, killing a New
00:06:29.400 York City police officer, as you heard there, and three civilians before fatally shooting himself.
00:06:35.320 Video shows a chaotic scene outside the Park Avenue skyscraper, which houses offices for major
00:06:41.040 companies like the NFL and the investment firm Blackstone. The lone gunman has been identified as 27-year-old
00:06:48.120 Shane Devon Tamura from Las Vegas. Police say he has a documented history of mental health problems.
00:06:54.360 According to officials familiar with the investigation, the suspect did leave a note at the scene of the
00:06:59.720 shooting where he mentioned his mental illness may be linked to CTE from his years playing high school
00:07:06.280 football. Investigators are looking into whether that may be why he targeted the building, but they
00:07:11.560 stress the investigation is early and ongoing. Officials also say they found a cell phone at the scene,
00:07:17.480 as well as a rifle case, magazines with ammunition, a loaded revolver,
00:07:21.640 and medication prescribed to the suspect. Religions that are vibrant, that are expanding,
00:07:29.800 those religions look for converts. Those on the wane, those who are dying, they hunt heretics. Talk about 1.00
00:07:39.240 that and how that has defined the left for over a decade across the West and the consequences of that.
00:07:50.200 So I think one of the things that's really blindsided a lot of us in the last few years
00:07:55.720 is the surge of support for the right, for the populist right amongst the young, particularly young
00:08:02.360 men, but not just young men. And the more I sort of look into this and talk to sort of anecdotally,
00:08:08.760 but look at the data, the more I realize that they see themselves as being regulated,
00:08:14.120 micro regulated in their lives, what they can say, what they can think, how they express themselves.
00:08:19.880 They feel that the establishment is actually a liberal establishment. And that it's kind of
00:08:28.200 Victorian, you know, in that you've got people who are extremely privileged and well off and older
00:08:34.600 than them telling them what their etiquette should be and what their manners should be.
00:08:39.880 And this is a this is a resentment we didn't see coming. We saw the right as basically old people, 0.95
00:08:46.680 people over 65. Increasingly, it's young people. And increasingly, it's people who feel economically,
00:08:53.080 their prospects are really not up to much. But at the same time, they're being told that they're
00:08:58.360 just behaving wrongly and have to watch how they behave. This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:09:12.360 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on this people.
00:09:16.200 The reason I got a free shot, all these networks lying about the people, the people have had a
00:09:22.600 belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything in the
00:09:26.200 world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people like
00:09:29.880 that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a
00:09:38.120 conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my country,
00:09:46.200 this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:09:57.160 It is Tuesday, 29 July in the year of the Lord 2025. Make sure you take your number two
00:10:03.000 pencil out and just mark down kind of a red letter day. Why is that the most powerful? This is not a
00:10:09.160 rag like the Wall Street Journal. This is the most powerful financial paper in the world, because
00:10:13.560 every key decision maker in the world, whether you're in Shanghai, whether you're in Jakarta,
00:10:21.960 India, the Middle East, Western Europe, Buenos Aires, Washington, D.C., Los Angeles, Chicago,
00:10:32.840 people that make decisions that make the world go in a certain direction, read this paper every day.
00:10:39.720 And the leading columnist in that paper is Ed Luce. We've had him on the show before in his book
00:10:45.160 on Brzezinski column liberalism needs to rediscover its convictions. That's kind of a bland headline on
00:10:51.480 the front page. But and that's where he was on Morning Joe. And if if he if you didn't understand what
00:10:57.960 he was saying, Morning Joe, about the politics of the laws are the laws of political hydraulics.
00:11:04.120 Right. Let's just turn right here. Western liberalism's waning star.
00:11:12.680 The Financial Times of London is a neocon neoliberal paper. It is the
00:11:18.200 mac daddy to its junior partner, the Wall Street Journal. And essentially, intellectually, they just
00:11:25.480 raised the white flag and said and particularly his closing. And we're going to have one more
00:11:31.000 cut from that later. He said, hey, this is not a bunch of old, angry white folks. This is a rising 0.97
00:11:38.600 generation of energy and commitment and dedication. These are young people who have had their prospects
00:11:45.400 stripped from them. Maybe that is Bannon's people under 35 or nothing more than Russian serfs 0.81
00:11:52.440 that crowd. So Ed Luce today, Western liberalism's waning star, which is really saying, hey, when
00:12:00.360 when Obama or Biden are in office or like Keir Starmer's in office, Nigel Farage, boom, uses that time,
00:12:10.440 builds his coalition and rises like no one's ever risen before. This way had Nigel on yesterday or
00:12:15.880 you know, out of power from 21 to 24, the war room posse will hammer and hammer and hammer and
00:12:22.280 hammer and get ready for greater things ahead after we win. He said the West and that's how it works,
00:12:29.640 political hydraulics. But when they're out of power, the Democratic Party doesn't do that. The
00:12:35.160 Liberal Party, the Progressive Party just kind of meanders and they're meandering right now. What
00:12:38.920 they're meandering away from is the neoliberalism and of Ed Luce. In more traditional populism,
00:12:46.120 you're getting Mandami, etc. In there, we had we I wanted to intercut my staff here.
00:12:54.840 Spectacular job in the crew in Denver. Spectacular job on the cold open, kind of a mini masterpiece
00:13:01.160 because inter interwoven in there was the shooting yesterday. Sheila Matthews joins us.
00:13:06.920 Sheila, the reason I love you is that there you are a your your prototypical war room.
00:13:13.880 Some person who had a thing was relatively obscure, but you keep hammering and you keep hammering and
00:13:20.120 you say nobody's paying attention to this. But this is what it is. You have said from day one,
00:13:25.560 this is about mental health, but it's also about the drugs these kids are on. And they never talk
00:13:30.280 about that. They can give you they can give you my new detail about the weapon. They can give you my new
00:13:35.320 detail about the ammunition that's used. They can give you my new details. My staff points out
00:13:42.200 the mantra last night is that he double parked. He double parked. He double parked like that means
00:13:46.840 anything. He double parked. He double parked. It's all totally irrelevant. What is relevant here is what
00:13:55.240 what are these guys on? What are these young men and now women on? Sheila Matthews is going to join us.
00:13:59.880 We got Jim Rickards, Josh Hawley. We're absolutely packed wall to wall. And yes,
00:14:05.000 we're putting the big spotlight now. People are finally waking up, folks, to what's happening down
00:14:10.120 in Texas. Some bad stuff happening in Texas and Hakeem Jeffries going down tomorrow to claim a victory.
00:14:16.920 But the war room, I think, will get engaged here. Make sure that we turn this thing around. Okay,
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00:16:59.780 Okay, welcome. Sister Matthews joins us. Your theory of the case since I first met you about
00:17:05.180 this, and we've talked about this I think now for years, and it's quite obvious you're correct.
00:17:11.300 And the mainstream media, and nobody wants to discuss this because I monitor it. It's time
00:17:15.540 after time after time after time. Make your case, and this is epitomized yesterday where we know the
00:17:21.540 gun, the ammo, the car's double parked. The car's double parked. We know all of it,
00:17:27.460 except the key thing of actually what's sitting in the evidence sitting in the car about what this
00:17:32.940 young man's issues are, ma'am. Well, thank you, Steve, for having Able Child on again. This is
00:17:40.220 all about mental health. This is about access to somebody's mind. We know, in fact, that the
00:17:47.500 psychiatrist and the drugs are never mentioned. What is all common in all these different mass
00:17:55.100 killings is withholding of mental health records and withholding of the psychiatrist's name.
00:18:02.700 Now, we already know that they found a suicide note. Now, we went through this with the manifesto
00:18:08.740 in Tennessee. We had to fight through that PR, a massive, I would say, like, you know, it's like
00:18:19.080 they want to divert us, right? So the bottom line is that what we need is these psychiatric drugs and
00:18:27.880 the psychiatrists. They have a huge PR firm. This is a massive behavioral health industry. They know
00:18:35.980 already who treated this guy. So his name should be out there in front. Plus, you and I worked on
00:18:42.940 Robert Card in Maine. Now, all of a sudden, in the suicide note, they're saying that he had
00:18:50.340 some kind of brain damage. OK, so this is a well-crafted marketing campaign by the behavioral health
00:18:58.880 industry to divert away from their products and their services that are killing people,
00:19:06.780 basically right in front of us. They are saying, you are stupid. The police are uneducated to follow 1.00
00:19:13.960 the psychiatrist. They just are killing our people right in front of us in malls, in restaurants,
00:19:20.660 in schools. And they are burying this data. Some of these hits are done financially to get more of
00:19:27.740 the mental health money back in. And others are targeted hits. But you can't ever see that
00:19:34.080 because this industry is hiding behind a well-oiled relationship with the federal government.
00:19:44.040 No, no, no. It makes total sense. Why is there anyone out there at any state level that's pressing
00:19:50.800 this that we got to get back? Because I'll tell you if and I we do it, we curate it so the audience
00:19:55.760 doesn't have to. CNN's bad. But if you watch MSNBC, it's shocking. The entire thing is big pharma.
00:20:04.100 And half of the big pharma ads are for depression. And not just that, second and third tier drugs you
00:20:11.100 should take for depression. I mean, these people that watch, the people that watch MSNBC are the
00:20:14.960 most screwed up people in history, just given who the advertisers are trying to reach. So this 0.91
00:20:20.460 massive industry, this is the other side, you got vaccines on one side, but this is their big cash cow,
00:20:28.020 right? And they're everywhere. They're in every school, you know, every and particularly with young
00:20:32.640 men, every young, every young man's got a problem, right? And we got to put drugs on it. Is there
00:20:36.920 anybody besides yourself at a state level that's trying to force the issue here that every time we
00:20:42.320 have this, we got to get in back of who the psychiatrist is, who who recommended the drugs? What's the
00:20:48.060 cocktail of drugs he's taking? Like today, we should know absolutely in that car, they said he had his
00:20:54.100 medications in the car, we should know what those medic, we should know the medications. At the same
00:20:59.020 time, we learn what the ammo is, because the medications are the ammo. That's why these kids
00:21:05.220 are doing it, right, ma'am? That's right. And right now we have major hearings in the FDA regarding these
00:21:12.400 SSRIs on pregnant women. And it was an amazing hearing last week. So things are trying to come
00:21:20.000 to, but it's taken 20 years, Steve. And this is mass murder right in front of our eyes. And on that
00:21:26.540 label is the treating psychiatrist. That guy should be brought out in front by the end of today. You
00:21:34.200 treated him, you know him, there's no HIPAA. And this is the other thing they say, we can't release
00:21:40.000 this because of HIPAA. That's a lie. Because HIPAA, it does not protect public safety issues. This is
00:21:49.080 a public safety issue. So this, it goes beyond HIPAA. So yes, this treating psychiatrist should,
00:21:57.000 his name should be revealed by the end of the day. And all MSNBC and all these other networks that are
00:22:03.740 blaming it on being black or white or Republican. No, this is a human rights issue. And this industry
00:22:10.220 is operating behind the scenes and it is an enemy within. I don't, you know, I can give you the
00:22:17.820 receipts, but you know what? We need hearings. You know, we have a petition on our website,
00:22:23.300 ablechild.org, that's asking for federal hearings into the link between psychiatric drugs and these
00:22:30.160 mass shootings. Let us bring experts. Let us have this in front of the American people because we
00:22:37.060 have evidence upon evidence. I mean, look at Tennessee with this manifesto. Remember how
00:22:42.740 everybody was threatened that they couldn't read it? Now they're stuffing it in the guy's pocket.
00:22:48.260 You know, these, we have to understand the power of these psychiatrists. You know, the one in Sandy Hook,
00:22:55.100 he was having sex with his patients, Dr. Paul Fox. Able Child revealed that. There's so much about 0.98
00:23:03.400 these mass shootings that nobody knows about. And it's really a network of really sick psychiatrists 0.96
00:23:11.580 that could be doing this to gain more money. And we have the right to look at that. This is not a
00:23:18.320 crazy theory. You just have to look at what happened yesterday. They're not mentioning the name of the
00:23:23.900 drug. And then the psychiatrist gets to walk away. I mean, with the one in Tennessee. I mean,
00:23:31.480 how many courts are going to prevent us from getting this data?
00:23:35.780 They're accessories.
00:23:36.140 They're accessories. They're accessories. They're accessories to these acts. They're accessories to
00:23:42.340 these acts. Sheila, where do people go? I know you got another man you got to bounce to. Where do they go?
00:23:47.700 Where do they get the petition? Grace and Moe, let's get this thing out. Let's get,
00:23:50.880 let's really get as many signups as possible. We'll make sure Bobby Kennedy, the guys over at HHS know
00:23:57.960 about this. Where do folks go, ma'am?
00:24:01.940 Ablechild.org. Ablechild.org. The petition's right on the top. Thank you so much for your eyes on this,
00:24:08.520 Steve. We really appreciate it.
00:24:09.860 You keep fighting. Listen, it's very simple. You were a grundoon, right? As many people that come 1.00
00:24:15.760 here the first time, it's like, they sound pretty smart. What are they talking about? I've tracked this now.
00:24:20.080 Every time with you, kind of behind the scenes, and she's right every single time. Every single
00:24:27.360 time. And it's now time. You got to out this. This is ridiculous. The drugs, the drug cocktails,
00:24:33.440 and who authorizes? These psychiatrists are doctors. This is not some psychologist. You know,
00:24:38.040 some theoretical guy took poetry in college. These are doctors, medical doctors. They got to be held
00:24:44.060 accountable for what's going on here. Sheila, thank you so much. Let's get everybody to your site
00:24:48.160 today. Are you on social media besides the website? Yeah. Up on the right-hand side,
00:24:54.760 you can see all our social media. We're on them all, pretty much. Thank you, ma'am. We'll make
00:25:01.440 sure this happens. Brilliant. Fantastic. This is what the show is all about. You give a platform to
00:25:08.200 somebody, and they're on top of it, and they work their ass off. Next thing you know, they're making
00:25:11.700 huge national. In fact, we're going to have Tiffany Justice on later, another perfect example. 0.99
00:25:17.820 Jim Rickards, brother. So the front page of the Financial Times, let's leave aside Ed Luce's
00:25:24.620 editorial. It's all about the EU, the member nations. France and Berlin are saying, what in the hell? We
00:25:32.400 didn't think we agreed to this. What did she just do? The IMF just upped, I think, the global growth 0.98
00:25:39.140 rate. We'll play another clip from Luce on the other side, but just your first take. President
00:25:44.280 Trump, when we came out on Liberation Day, we were high-fiving. It was like the liberation of
00:25:49.580 working-class people in the United States. The mainstream media and, of course, the Wall Street
00:25:53.980 Journal looked down their nose and laughed at us. Trump is on a roll, is he not, brother Rickards?
00:26:00.480 Trump is definitely on a roll. There are a couple issues, important ones, where I think he might be on
00:26:07.060 the wrong track. But in general, absolutely. Certainly on trade, everything that Scott Besson
00:26:12.140 has proposed, the three arrows, Peter Navarro and others on tariffs, Steve Moran on at least the
00:26:18.600 beginnings of the Mar-a-Lago Accord. He's getting good advice. He's making very good decisions. Yeah,
00:26:22.920 he's on a roll. The Democrats, after the election, didn't know why they lost, didn't know what to do
00:26:28.280 next. Now it's worse, because they're literally buried under the six months and going strong of
00:26:34.360 success. So that's absolutely right. The IMF, it's a pretty bad forecasting record. But I always say
00:26:40.000 you're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. And the facts are that the US economy
00:26:45.040 is doing better than a lot of expectations. And when the IMF upgrades world growth, well,
00:26:50.760 the United States is about 24%, it's about right, of the global economy. So if the US is doing well,
00:26:56.680 it's going to bring the world along with it. It's the so-called locomotive theory, you know,
00:27:01.300 the engine pulls the train. So yeah, it's great news.
00:27:06.940 We got about a minute before we go to break. They all dismissed his tariffs and trade. No one
00:27:13.180 stood up to himself. We have 60% of the world's GDP and nobody. They've all bent the knee. Now we're
00:27:18.820 in, obviously, in Stockholm with the CCP. Give me a minute on that before we go to break.
00:27:24.020 Yeah, we've said this before in your show, Steve, that everyone's like, Trump's radical. He's
00:27:28.480 tearing up the playbook on free trade. He's putting all these tariffs in, et cetera. That's
00:27:32.020 nonsense. The US didn't even start down the free trade road until 1962, and it got worse. From
00:27:37.580 1790, you know, Alexander Hamilton and George Washington to 1962, the US was all about tariffs,
00:27:44.420 tariffs, tariffs. Some part of the civil war was about the fact that the South didn't want tariffs
00:27:49.420 because they were an exporter, and the North did because they had manufacturing. You know,
00:27:53.000 William McKinley, Abraham Lincoln, John Quincy Adams, Henry Clay, they were all pro-tariffs 0.97
00:27:58.780 all the way through. And so all Trump is doing, and it's a big deal, but he's going back to what
00:28:03.580 worked. It was called the American system. I call this American system 2.0. But Trump's not doing
00:28:08.880 something radical. He's going back to what works. Jim, hang on for one second. We're going to take a
00:28:14.720 short commercial break. Jim Rickards on the other side. The American system, which came out of
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00:29:45.840 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:29:51.200 Welcome back. Ed Luce, can we, I tell you what, I've got Rickards up here. Before I want to pivot
00:29:58.140 away with this, let's play the last clip from Ed Luce, and then I'm going to have Jim Rickards
00:30:02.540 jump in and give us his observations.
00:30:04.600 Other than like the speech codes and the sort of political correctness and the belief by young
00:30:12.240 males that they're being attacked by this left-wing establishment, you also brought up COVID and said 0.75
00:30:20.500 that the left and the center left are fools if they ever look at another election again without 0.96
00:30:25.720 looking back to the lessons of COVID. Can you please explain that? Because I think that's an extremely 0.85
00:30:31.160 important part of this piece as well. And that really keys into the sort of young versus old
00:30:36.920 thing. Essentially what we did was we imposed very strict rules, social distancing rules, sometimes
00:30:44.160 lockdowns, that were there to protect the vulnerable, the older people, people with
00:30:50.000 pre-existing conditions, diabetes, etc. At the expense of the young, not just of their schooling,
00:30:57.900 but of their ability to socialize, their ability to live their lives. And this is an absolutely sort
00:31:04.180 of defining moment for anybody who was young. COVID sort of marked their lives, pockmarked their lives,
00:31:11.620 and I think gave them a view of the left and of regulation, not just the CDC, NIH, but the establishment
00:31:21.040 in general, that we are underestimating in terms of how jaundiced they feel about the world. And so
00:31:29.200 COVID is a seminal thing. It's over, but it's not over.
00:31:34.460 Wow. Amazing. By the way, for my crack production team, I got to make sure I get, not our cold open,
00:31:40.720 but let's get the entire Ed Luce segment on Morning Joe to Charlie Kirk and Jack Posovic.
00:31:45.320 He's got to be a guest on Charlie Kirk's show, because that's Charlie's wheelhouse right there.
00:31:51.040 So, Jim, your assessment right there, it's the lead editorial, he's the lead columnist for the Financial Times.
00:32:02.660 The headline inside is essentially they're waving the white flag. Western liberalism's waning star.
00:32:12.460 And he's saying we're the ones that have the energy, we're the ones that have the idea,
00:32:15.880 we're the ones that have the grit and determination. What I said on that PBS interview has kind of gone viral.
00:32:22.480 We're battle-hardened. We're not going to win everything, but we're never going to be defeated.
00:32:26.620 And the great news here is that it's just not a bunch of old people. Yes, we are the vanguard of this, 1.00
00:32:33.200 but this movement is actually made up of young men. It's also multiracial and multiethnic, right?
00:32:41.600 We have a huge Hispanic group coming now to the MAGA movement.
00:32:46.180 You have African-American men coming to the MAGA movement.
00:32:49.340 This coalition's building and Ed Luce and the smart folks on the progressive side and particularly in the capital market side
00:32:56.740 are understanding there's a new day dawning. Jim Rickards.
00:33:01.000 Yeah, Steve, I agree completely that Luce ran up the white flag and surrendered.
00:33:05.740 I agree with that. But he doesn't know why.
00:33:08.280 It's like you lost a war, but you don't know why you lost the war.
00:33:11.080 He was talking in the earlier clip of the open.
00:33:13.180 And he was talking about that younger people don't like older people telling them what to do.
00:33:17.660 And he used the word etiquette, teaching them etiquette as if this is about, you know,
00:33:21.520 the right way to slice and then peel a banana at a state dinner.
00:33:24.900 I mean, no, it's not about etiquette. It's about lies.
00:33:28.020 It's about and the whole thing about COVID.
00:33:30.440 You say, well, they didn't like all the regulation. Younger people didn't like the regulation.
00:33:33.720 But what about the fact that the regulation was unnecessary, that it was a lie, that it was based on false science?
00:33:38.300 So let's take the vaccines.
00:33:39.420 And by the way, I wrote a book in 20, it was one of the first books, a bestseller on COVID.
00:33:44.840 It came out in early 2021.
00:33:46.600 And I, you know, was looking at Jay Bhattacharya's research.
00:33:50.780 He's now the head director of National Institutes of Health.
00:33:53.380 But even then, he said, and I said in the book, this is not a vaccine.
00:33:56.980 This COVID vaccine is not a vaccine.
00:33:58.760 It's an experimental gene modification therapy.
00:34:01.480 That's how you can describe it.
00:34:02.780 It's not a vaccine.
00:34:03.740 It doesn't work.
00:34:05.160 In December 2022, 5 million people who were double-vaxxed and boosted got COVID.
00:34:12.080 Now, tell me that vaccine works, which, again, it's not a vaccine.
00:34:14.580 Tell me it works when 5 million people, double-vaxxed and boosted, got COVID.
00:34:18.340 It doesn't work.
00:34:19.380 It never did.
00:34:21.080 Masks, the virus is an airborne respiratory virus, right?
00:34:24.880 It is like one five-thousandth the size of the weave in the mask.
00:34:29.100 It goes right through a mask.
00:34:30.200 The masks do nothing.
00:34:30.900 Social distancing, that came, there was a late 19th century German scientist who said,
00:34:36.180 you know, six feet for, you know, six feet apart.
00:34:39.080 He later said, I made that up.
00:34:40.420 I didn't really know what I was talking about.
00:34:42.060 Again, this is 130 years old.
00:34:43.820 They were pulling stuff like that out of thin air.
00:34:45.800 I still go into stores or even churches where they got these little stickers on the ground
00:34:49.820 showing you how to stand six feet apart.
00:34:51.500 The point is, Luce makes it sound like we had a lot of regulation, a lot of rules, and young
00:34:55.760 people didn't like it.
00:34:56.660 But he leaves out the fact that the rules were made up.
00:35:00.220 They were not based on science.
00:35:02.800 They were lies.
00:35:04.100 And the vaccine is not a vaccine.
00:35:05.300 That's what the young people get. 0.75
00:35:06.680 That's what everyone should get.
00:35:08.140 And I think the word is spreading now.
00:35:10.160 But the point is, it wasn't about old people putting regulation on.
00:35:13.580 It was about regulations that don't work and lying about it and forcing it.
00:35:19.040 You know, I never wore a mask.
00:35:20.280 I had to be confronted by a cop.
00:35:22.800 Like if a cop came up in an airport and said, put a mask on, all right, I had one in my pocket.
00:35:26.160 But as soon as he left, I took it off.
00:35:27.900 You know, and I never got the mRNA vaccines.
00:35:31.040 And I had to go to great lengths in four states to find, you know, there were a couple
00:35:37.300 of vaccines that were not mRNA that Janssen and one other, but they were impossible to
00:35:43.240 find because the government was suppressing them.
00:35:45.720 So it's about a lot more.
00:35:47.460 It's not etiquette and it's not regulation.
00:35:50.280 It's lies and kind of neofascism.
00:35:53.220 That's what younger people don't like.
00:35:54.420 So I agree he's running after a white flight, but even now he doesn't know why. 0.95
00:35:59.080 But you see, and this is why you have Mondami. 0.67
00:36:02.000 This is why you have the radicals in Texas.
00:36:04.360 The traditional Democratic Party, the kind of traditional liberalism or progressivism,
00:36:10.060 they do not have an answer.
00:36:11.700 They've lost their energy.
00:36:12.740 They've lost their fight.
00:36:13.680 And what you see is a more radical, whether it's Crockett or AOC or Mondami, right, or
00:36:18.900 what's happening down in Texas with Wu, you're seeing a more radical nature of it.
00:36:23.320 Now, given President Trump's on a roll and MAGA's on a roll, there are very big storm clouds
00:36:29.720 on the horizon.
00:36:30.560 Is it, was it Medviv?
00:36:33.220 These tweets that are going back, he's actually mocking Graham.
00:36:37.780 He's really mocking President Trump.
00:36:39.540 This whole thing with the Russians, with the, because this is the big storm cloud, both Israel, 0.99
00:36:44.400 what's happening in Gaza, what's happening still in Persia, you know, the Middle East.
00:36:48.600 But Ukraine, I think, is quickly going to DEFCON, too, because President Trump has now told
00:36:55.600 Putin, hey, you know, I gave you 50 days, but upon further review, we're 10 days into it.
00:37:00.420 I'm going to give you another 10 or 12.
00:37:02.240 Your thoughts on all that, sir?
00:37:04.920 A couple of things.
00:37:05.760 Putin is very reserved.
00:37:07.840 He, a couple of things.
00:37:08.620 He does not shoot from the hip.
00:37:10.080 He gives things a lot of thought, very thoughtful.
00:37:11.900 His two sports are, you know, chess and martial arts.
00:37:14.840 So he's a very, you know, kind of, very much of a deep thinker.
00:37:20.060 But Medvedev is like the hitman.
00:37:21.440 He's the one that goes out.
00:37:22.460 Now, I'm not saying Medvedev's not telling the truth.
00:37:25.100 He is.
00:37:25.640 But he's the guy who's kind of unleashed to be a lot more, a lot more pointed and point to the fact
00:37:30.420 that we're kind of heading for World War III.
00:37:32.300 And then you have Sergey Lavrov, who's the foreign minister, who's like the only diplomat in the world
00:37:36.760 who really understands his job.
00:37:38.160 He's from the old school and he knows how to do diplomacy.
00:37:42.160 So here's the thing.
00:37:43.060 Like, Trump gave this 50-day, it's really an ultimatum.
00:37:46.560 By the way, ultimatum is not like some throwaway word.
00:37:49.420 In diplomacy and the art of war, ultimatum is, hey, if you don't do this, we're going to hit you.
00:37:55.800 We're going to strike in some way, usually militarily.
00:37:58.480 That's what an ultimatum is.
00:37:59.740 It's taken very seriously among diplomats.
00:38:02.500 50-day ultimatum.
00:38:03.380 What Trump doesn't understand, I think he's getting really bad advice from Kellogg, Rubio.
00:38:09.280 Walsh is still on the scene to some extent, and others.
00:38:14.580 I think I've said before, J.D. Vance and Hank South, I think, are the only ones who've got this right.
00:38:19.080 But he's being sucked into this war.
00:38:21.300 It's no longer Biden's war.
00:38:22.560 It's now Trump's war.
00:38:24.600 But Putin doesn't care.
00:38:25.920 I mean, hold on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:38:31.940 You've crossed the line of demarcation, because this is what we're arguing, you know, this is still not his war.
00:38:39.640 You're saying we already crossed that line of demarcation?
00:38:41.980 We're arguing, hey, if you continue down this path, it's going to be your war.
00:38:46.280 But it doesn't have to be right now.
00:38:47.720 If we just walked away from the entire thing and said pox on both your houses, Jim Rickards.
00:38:54.000 Yeah, I think Putin, sorry, Trump crossed that line a couple of weeks ago when he said we are going to supply additional arms to Ukraine,
00:39:00.600 because there were no congressional appropriations coming, and probably won't be.
00:39:04.860 But he has some existing authority.
00:39:06.920 He said we're going to keep supplying arms.
00:39:08.260 In my view, that's when he crossed the line.
00:39:10.080 All it does is continue the war, kills more Ukrainians. 0.94
00:39:14.260 Ukraine loses more territory.
00:39:16.580 So Trump gives this 50-day ultimatum.
00:39:19.540 Putin doesn't care.
00:39:20.560 The Russians don't work on a clock.
00:39:22.200 They don't work on anniversary dates.
00:39:23.600 They certainly don't respond to ultimata, and that's what Medvedev was saying.
00:39:27.540 If anything, you accelerated the war, because Putin says, well, something's going to happen in 50 days.
00:39:32.060 They better hurry up and take Parvorsk and get to the Dniper River. 0.85
00:39:35.360 So I'm not sure that he hasn't killed more Ukrainians by laying an ultimatum down. 0.99
00:39:40.660 But now it's 10 days.
00:39:42.200 Putin doesn't care.
00:39:43.240 He's going to pursue the war.
00:39:44.760 It's the Russian way of war. 0.98
00:39:46.060 It's slow, methodical, and lethal.
00:39:49.220 And then Trump has stumbled into another, well, this is another blunder, because what's going to happen when the 10 days are up?
00:39:55.500 What's he going to do?
00:39:56.200 Well, we have an idea, which is these so-called secondary tariffs on countries that do business with Russia.
00:40:04.120 So Russia's been sanctioned every way you can think of.
00:40:06.560 They've had 15 rounds of sanctions.
00:40:08.660 What are you going to do, a 16th round?
00:40:09.900 You think that's going to make a difference?
00:40:11.360 It's not.
00:40:12.020 But hang on.
00:40:12.280 What they're going to do is –
00:40:13.760 Listen, he just gave the chips to China for the simple reason we've got to get the rare earths.
00:40:20.060 We're still not over this magnet situation.
00:40:22.440 He's got Besant in Stockholm trying to negotiate a deal.
00:40:26.980 The CCP deals, that and India are the last two big pieces.
00:40:30.220 He's got 60 percent of world GDP now, and he's on a roll.
00:40:34.400 All these deals work for us big league.
00:40:36.800 He's got the big two to go.
00:40:38.280 India is going to be fine, but China is – he's got a – why would he in 10 days say – the biggest secondary sanctions will be on India and China?
00:40:47.100 Yeah, particularly with China would be – they're the biggest purchaser of oil and natural gas from Germany.
00:40:55.420 And this EU deal kind of cuts – to the extent it can, it kind of cuts Russia out of the energy markets for Germany and for the EU, doesn't it?
00:41:04.560 So if he does secondary sanctions, isn't he going to blow himself up on his CCP deal?
00:41:10.300 But that's exactly my point.
00:41:11.900 You're going to have to do one of two things.
00:41:13.620 You're either going to have to put on the secondary sanctions – and you're right, Steve, it's going to blow up the China negotiation and make things a lot worse – or not.
00:41:21.660 But if not, you give an ultimatum and didn't do anything.
00:41:25.600 That means you were bluffing, and that's a sign of weakness, and that's going to cause problems down the road.
00:41:30.020 So Trump's now boxed himself in.
00:41:31.900 He has to do something, but the something is going to blow up the other big things he's trying to accomplish, which is the China trade negotiations.
00:41:38.480 You don't think – I mean the fear is you don't think there will be any kind of bigger arms sales, arms shipments.
00:41:43.760 As you know, Moldova right now I think didn't let in a bunch of guys going to this Make Europe a Great Again conference because it's becoming the center right now of NATO's – the gathering storm of NATO wanting to get militarily involved in the Ukraine.
00:41:57.200 You don't think – you're not concerned about a potential, you know, stepping up militarily here?
00:42:04.160 Well, I can tell you Russia's not concerned, and here's why.
00:42:06.900 Every single weapons system that we sent them has failed.
00:42:09.940 My big takeaway from this, looking at it in a broader perspective, is there's nothing stopping Russia from going to the English Channel.
00:42:16.100 They're not going to, but they could.
00:42:18.040 That's how weak NATO is, and that's how weak the U.S. system is.
00:42:20.940 So let's just kind of go down the list very quickly.
00:42:23.100 High Mars precision got it artillery.
00:42:24.520 The Russians hacked the GPS system so those missiles – those shells don't hit the target.
00:42:31.840 Bradley fighting vehicles burning on the battlefield.
00:42:34.420 Abrams tanks, Leopard tanks, Challenger tanks burning on the battlefield.
00:42:38.660 Patriot missile system cannot hit a hypersonic missile, and the Russians have hypersonic missiles.
00:42:44.200 We don't.
00:42:45.040 One by one they've blown up the Patriot missile system, anti-missile systems, at a billion dollars a pop.
00:42:50.220 Why don't you hear about the F-16s?
00:42:51.700 We sent them the F-16s, took Biden two years to make up his mind.
00:42:54.800 We sent them the F-16s.
00:42:55.920 Why don't you hear about them?
00:42:56.620 Because they get shot down by the Russian anti-aircraft batteries.
00:42:59.900 The point is, none of this stuff works.
00:43:01.680 It's all obsolete.
00:43:03.800 We're taken out of inventory, by the way.
00:43:05.480 This is not new production.
00:43:06.920 So we see a whole separate issue.
00:43:09.060 We have to rebuild the U.S. military from the ground up the way Reagan did, not by replicating these obsolete systems,
00:43:14.640 but by getting new ones.
00:43:15.480 That's going to take five years or longer.
00:43:17.380 So the answer is, yeah, you can send them more weapons, and they won't do any good.
00:43:21.140 Okay.
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00:44:57.960 Okay, there's a story in, and if Grace and Mo can get it up today in, and I'll play that, pull the Eric Prince clip from last night.
00:45:09.560 So there's a big story up in Politico Day.
00:45:11.420 I'm quoted about the situation with Bibi and about, I just blunt, I say, hey, under 30 years old in MAGA, very little support for Israel.
00:45:20.420 And now even people to support Israel are sitting there going, what in the hell is going on here?
00:45:24.580 As we've been saying for months and months and months, that the Tel Aviv-Levin crowd is just burying Israel even more. 0.64
00:45:31.660 Yesterday, Trump on the world stage said, hey, it's starvation.
00:45:35.760 And, you know, that's cutting out, that's really taking Bibi's biggest tactic, let's be blunt, and calling it what it is. 0.96
00:45:43.020 And it says it's not going to tolerate.
00:45:44.020 In fact, it's getting us more, which I don't like, getting us even more drawn into that situation.
00:45:48.840 So, Rickards, militarily, you know, I had Lindsey Graham on Sunday's show saying that Gaza is going to be like Berlin and Tokyo, although I think it looks worse than Dresden right now.
00:46:00.880 What are your thoughts?
00:46:02.000 What are President Trump's option here?
00:46:03.960 Because Bibi and these guys are going to use starvation. 1.00
00:46:06.780 They're going to, you know, they're going to do what they're going to do, and that's obvious.
00:46:09.480 And President Trump is now caught in, I think, potentially a quagmire, sir.
00:46:13.780 Well, I've studied every Arab-Israeli war or intifada since 1917, but this really started in 1870, so it's been going on a long time.
00:46:28.000 The point is Israel, and this is important to understand, Israel is utterly dependent on the United States.
00:46:32.940 Yes, they have advanced weapons, good technology, you know, they've mobilized the entire population, brave fighters, all true.
00:46:40.880 But at the end of the day, for ammunition, missiles, and other weapons systems, satellite intelligence, et cetera, they depend heavily on the United States.
00:46:49.500 So if the president wants to dictate a certain course of policy to Israel, they can do it in Israel better. 0.89
00:46:55.420 Listen, and Nixon and Kissinger did that very successfully in the 1973 war.
00:47:00.940 So you're right.
00:47:01.580 This is starvation, not just starvation.
00:47:03.480 It's also the hospitals, medicine, medical treatment, et cetera.
00:47:06.000 Now, I agree with you, Steve.
00:47:08.880 We don't want—I mean, U.S. troops could deliver this, but we don't want U.S. troops in Gaza.
00:47:12.980 So they're going to have to basically tell Israel, either you do it, do it well, or we're going to start to cut you off. 0.93
00:47:18.980 And then that will get Netanyahu's attention, more than his attention, because he has his eye on the ball in terms of everything they're doing in Iran and with Houthis and Hezbollah and elsewhere.
00:47:28.700 It can't be done.
00:47:29.700 It was a little—you know, go back about a year, maybe a little longer.
00:47:33.080 Remember when the situation in Gaza first deteriorated?
00:47:36.320 The U.S. was going to supply them.
00:47:38.000 We built a dock.
00:47:38.860 There was this floating dock that we were going to build to create a port so we can get goods in there, because there aren't too many natural ports in Gaza.
00:47:46.760 And it fell apart in a matter of weeks.
00:47:48.560 I think it was like a billion dollars or something.
00:47:50.700 The thing literally, the first storm came, the dock fell apart.
00:47:53.240 So it didn't exactly inspire confidence in the U.S. ability to supply.
00:47:56.840 Then they said, well, can't you just parachute stuff in?
00:47:59.100 Well, you can, but the parachutes land, and Hamas takes it and gives it to their own people and doesn't really care about their citizens. 0.81
00:48:06.300 So it's going to be up to the IDF to do it.
00:48:09.120 But the only way to get them—and they're probably willing to do it.
00:48:11.580 Can the IDF, do you think, militarily, take down the Muslim Brotherhood Hamas? 0.89
00:48:20.840 And I know you've got this hostage situation that's very complicated, but do they have the military stroke right now to actually do it, sir?
00:48:29.340 In time, yes.
00:48:30.720 There were—estimates vary, but there were about 40,000 Hamas fighters.
00:48:35.440 History shows you don't have to kill all 40,000.
00:48:38.800 If you kill 25,000 to 30,000, the rest just kind of falls apart, and they're somewhat down that road.
00:48:45.240 But that's independent of everything that's going on with the—you have several million people in the civilian population, ruined infrastructure, a lot more.
00:48:53.500 And look, Hamas puts missile launchers in hospitals.
00:48:56.640 So you want to take out the missile launcher, you're blowing up a hospital.
00:48:59.340 Food arrives, and Hamas takes it and gives it to their own people. 0.98
00:49:02.340 That's true, but that's not an excuse.
00:49:04.400 That just means you have to work harder and more intelligently to get stuff to the civilian population.
00:49:09.020 If you don't, Netanyahu will lose more support than he has already, and he doesn't want to go down that road.
00:49:17.240 The U.S. is the only power that can really dictate to Israel, and we should just do it. 0.99
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00:50:20.040 Chris, Midtown Manhattan, I think it's, and I haven't had a chance to check the news, obviously, since the show started,
00:50:28.180 but I think there's still a lot of confusion on how a guy walks in with a long gun
00:50:33.820 and how he actually gets into an elevator bank, and that elevator bank takes him up in one of the most prestigious office spaces in all Midtown Manhattan.
00:50:44.220 You have Blackstone, you've got the National Football League, you've got KPMG, you've got Loeb & Loeb, the legal firm.
00:50:55.500 It's kind of shocking.
00:50:56.400 One of the things is that you provide certain products that people, if they're thinking, particularly for their kids, right?
00:51:05.020 If you see every young person running out of that building, he's got a backpack on.
00:51:09.380 But tell me about the backpacks that you guys sell.
00:51:11.260 Well, Steve, we developed this exactly for what you were talking about there.
00:51:15.820 We developed a bulletproof backpack with Faraday pockets expressly to try and address these horrific mass shootings, particularly in schools.
00:51:23.480 You know, every parent's buying their kid a backpack anyway.
00:51:26.640 Why not buy one that can actually potentially save their life?
00:51:29.840 So we developed this in conjunction last year with some Navy SEAL friends of ours in California and law enforcement.
00:51:36.320 And we created a backpack that can really help, you know, save lives.
00:51:40.560 This is certified by the NIJ up to level 3A.
00:51:44.100 And this is it's an incredible piece of equipment.
00:51:47.680 It also has Faraday.
00:51:48.820 I want to I want to I want to develop this more as we get back, because I think that epitomizes where we are as a society.
00:51:57.100 Right. Where you think that and this gets back to what Sheila's Matthews is talking about at the beginning.
00:52:03.080 We got to get to the bottom of this mental, the mental health issues that are driven in many cases by these psychiatrists and the drugs.
00:52:10.140 Somebody texted me, one of the engine room people said one of the top schools in Manhattan, boys schools in Manhattan.
00:52:16.400 I think the first and second graders, a third of the students were on ADHD drugs by the time they're in like first and second grade.
00:52:25.940 And then you get these situations where you actually have to parents actually have to conceive of, hey, if I buy a backpack, maybe we should honey, maybe we should get a bulletproof one.
00:52:37.620 What, you know, in the old days, be like, what in the hell are you talking about?
00:52:41.880 And now is it actually logical?
00:52:43.660 OK, Chris, stick around.
00:52:44.800 We got Senator Hawley.
00:52:45.760 We got Chris Hoare.
00:52:48.320 Terrible situation in midtown Manhattan.
00:52:50.380 We'll get more into that.
00:52:51.340 Tiffany Justice with us.
00:52:52.680 Stick around.
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