Bannon's War Room - Episode 4672： Redistricting In Texas; Maintaining A Strong Economy

00:00:00.000 Republicans in Texas yesterday released the first draft of a new congressional map aimed at picking up five seats in next year's midterms.

00:00:08.060 Texas Governor Greg Abbott added redistricting to the special session agenda at the urging of President Trump and his political team.

00:00:15.540 Republicans currently control 25 of the 38 congressional districts in Texas.

00:00:20.620 Under the new maps, the President Trump would have carried 30 of 38 seats, all by more than 10 points.

00:00:26.800 House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries is in Texas meeting with Democrats as they weigh their options on how to fight their redistricting efforts, which could include leaving the state.

00:00:37.160 Jeffries is supposed to hold a news conference today at the state capitol in Austin.

00:00:41.760 Meanwhile, the Texas Tribune has new reporting that California Governor Gavin Newsom has told aides he will move forward with a plan to redraw his state's congressional lines to install more Democrats if Texas Republicans pass their own updated map.

00:00:56.100 What Donald Trump is doing to the rule of law is he is breaking it.

00:01:00.080 What he is doing to our democracy is subverting it.

00:01:04.460 And those are active verbs.

00:01:06.180 Those are not he will subvert or he may undermine.

00:01:09.460 Like he is doing these things.

00:01:11.620 He is already going after his political enemies by misusing the Department of Justice.

00:01:16.720 He is already breaking federal law and the U.S. Constitution.

00:01:20.860 And he already is he is acting like an authoritarian.

00:01:26.220 And as we move towards the next phase of challenges for our democracy, which are free and fair elections in 2026, we need to have no illusions.

00:01:35.180 He has no he has no expectation that he is going to follow what the law is or be constrained.

00:01:41.780 He is completely outcome determiner.

00:01:43.480 That's the part that's unusual.

00:01:45.840 The Supreme Court actually starting in Texas in 2003 clarified that states can redistrict gerrymander whenever whenever they want.

00:01:56.020 It doesn't need to be right after the census.

00:01:57.460 And what is unique this time is how little pretense there is that this is about anything but helping Trump get more seats.

00:02:04.020 So this started with Harmeet Dillon at the DOJ sending texts a letter and saying we have civil rights concerns about some of the majority minority districts that were drawn in 2021.

00:02:15.220 But listening to the Republicans defending this and posting about social media, they are describing this in the problems in Austin as giving Trump five more seats and talking to Republicans in Indiana, Missouri, other places where they have the power to draw more seats if they want to.

00:02:30.240 That is how they phrase it.

00:02:31.160 It is not we are restoring the justice that was denied to us by the previous map or this is going to better represent these constituents.

00:02:38.520 It is we want Trump to have more seats.

00:02:40.520 He deserves more seats.

00:02:41.720 We need to stop the left from taking power.

00:02:43.380 And that's what the position Democrats are put in there is do they want to defend the idea of independent commissions or something else?

00:02:50.780 They just want to say this is tit for tat.

00:02:53.080 We cannot allow them to turn the country into the comparison I hear the most often is is hungry.

00:02:58.320 Talk about what you see on the ground on the other side.

00:03:01.160 Oh, it's happening everywhere.

00:03:03.060 I mean, you know, the fact is Donald Trump and the vote suppressors, the election deniers, they look at the results of 2024 and they say we won.

00:03:12.320 Right.

00:03:12.520 We did.

00:03:12.840 We did.

00:03:13.180 We accomplished what we wanted to accomplish.

00:03:15.620 And so, sure, they didn't have to actually steal any elections for president after 2024 because Donald Trump won the popular vote and won the electoral college.

00:03:25.980 But they then rolled that out in North Carolina to try to do just that.

00:03:30.380 And they are quite emboldened.

00:03:32.540 You know, they they view North Carolina not as a defeat, but as a lesson learned for the tactics that are working and the tactics that need to be improved.

00:03:43.080 They look at their voter challenge program in states like Georgia, again, as as tactics that they will refine as we move forward to Senator Offsau's reelection there.

00:03:52.080 And it is happening in every state in the country.

00:03:55.240 I mean, there is not a state in the country in which Republicans and the RNC and the right wing, vast right wing dark money groups funded by billionaires are not active.

00:04:05.980 I mean, I see them in court by law firm and I we are in we are in 50 lawsuits in more than more than more than 25 states.

00:04:15.440 Like we're in half the country.

00:04:16.720 The RNC, by the way, is litigating 75 lawsuits in 40 some odd states.

00:04:22.700 I mean, there's a lot of going on here.

00:04:25.500 And from the Republican standpoint, they are emboldened.

00:04:27.900 They think they have the courts at their back.

00:04:29.500 They have the president with executive orders.

00:04:31.500 They've got a grassroots army of vote suppressors.

00:04:33.720 They've got a team full of election deniers and local and county boards.

00:04:37.720 So we all need to buckle up and be ready, ready to fight back.

00:04:43.680 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:04:48.580 Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on these people.

00:04:53.800 I got a free shot.

00:04:55.120 All these networks lying about the people.

00:04:58.100 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:05:00.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:05:01.200 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:05:04.140 It's going to happen.

00:05:05.420 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:05:08.820 Mega Media.

00:05:10.140 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:05:15.560 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:05:19.360 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:05:25.540 War Room.

00:05:26.560 Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff.

00:05:31.200 It's Thursday, 31 July, Year of the Lord, 2025, the last day of July before we get to August, the traditional, you know, big vacation month for everybody.

00:05:40.940 We're going to focus today on the three R's. 1.00

00:05:44.260 That would be recess, rescissions, and redistricting.

00:05:48.040 We've got a lot of work today.

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00:05:54.840 Also, bill blaster because we're going to need to get to work here.

00:05:57.800 There's a lot of, as we explain things to you today and give the information, we hope your blood boils and you're going to want to do some work to make sure we can set things right here in the war.

00:06:07.960 We want to start with redistricting in the great state of Texas.

00:06:11.360 Anytime Mark Elias' head's blowing up, it's a good thing.

00:06:14.540 Down in Texas, they finally put the map out.

00:06:16.440 In Denver, you can go ahead and put the map up.

00:06:18.200 As you know, we've been hammering this thing for about three or four weeks now.

00:06:20.940 I want to bring in Attorney General Ken Paxton from the great state of Texas.

00:06:26.840 Attorney General Paxton, you got a tweet from a couple days ago about making sure your office is available to any law enforcement in the state of Texas to make sure that these Democrats can't run away like they've done before so you don't have a quorum.

00:06:42.760 This is all they're talking about.

00:06:43.700 I think Hakeem Jeffries came down yesterday, gave a pep talk to them to make sure that they skedaddled if they have to.

00:06:50.740 What's the current state of play from your perch as Attorney General, sir?

00:06:57.140 So we've been through this before.

00:06:58.800 I was in the Texas House in 2003 when the Democrats left, and the House Democrats left, and then later the Senate Democrats.

00:07:08.100 So we've been through this before.

00:07:09.580 We know what can happen.

00:07:10.660 I mean, the House rules and the Senate rules both allow for these people to be arrested if they leave and they try to break the quorum.

00:07:19.300 The challenge is if they go out of state, we lose jurisdiction.

00:07:22.980 And it's been a challenge in the past, but in the end, as long as the governor is willing to keep concessions, ultimately they have to come home.

00:07:31.580 Well, when we say that, can't you get the Texas Rangers?

00:07:38.120 I mean, you've got pretty good law enforcement down there.

00:07:40.260 How are we letting these guys, if they're leaving the state specifically for the purpose of not coming in for their elected duties, can't you stop them from leaving the state?

00:07:50.100 So the House could do that.

00:07:52.560 The House would have to have the House or the Senate, and it's probably going to be the House, would have to have – they could have rules in place that require that these Democrats stay now. 1.00

00:08:01.820 In other words, basically lock the doors, which is what happened in 2003.

00:08:05.060 They locked the doors in the House.

00:08:06.440 We could not leave.

00:08:07.940 We were – basically, we slept there.

00:08:09.880 So if you really wanted to protect it, that could be done by the Texas House or the Texas Senate, depending on which one thinks that – which Democrats are going to leave or both.

00:08:23.060 What do you recommend?

00:08:24.520 Because this thing has got to get done to get a special session that has, I think, another two weeks and two days left.

00:08:31.220 I mean what's your recommendation to Lieutenant Governor Patrick, the governor?

00:08:35.620 We're going to have Senator Bob Hall on here in a moment.

00:08:37.560 What's your recommendation to folks?

00:08:39.880 I mean that's what I would do.

00:08:41.600 If I were the Speaker of the House, if I were leaving the Senate, I'd put rules in place depending on which group they think is going to leave, but probably the House.

00:08:50.940 That's the more likely group to leave the state of Texas.

00:08:55.660 I'd put rules in place that basically lock us in until we get a vote because the House map is up on Friday.

00:09:03.820 You could lock them in for the rest of the session, two weeks, and just serve them food there, and they sleep there.

00:09:08.400 And that's just the way it is because we've got to get these maps passed.

00:09:13.820 Well, talk to – what do you anticipate as far as legal challenges?

00:09:17.680 Because this is all the mainstream.

00:09:18.900 We've been on this for three or four weeks now.

00:09:20.740 But they're going to have legal challenges like crazy.

00:09:23.360 You're going to have to defend it.

00:09:24.460 What's your take on this?

00:09:28.060 It's just the status quo.

00:09:29.560 I mean I've been defending redistricting maps since I've been in office, and so far we've been successful every time protecting those maps.

00:09:37.780 No, I'm going to get – we are going to get challenges the way it is, and we will defend them, and I'm convinced we can be successful.

00:09:44.740 We've got good maps, and the legislature has the right to draw the maps they want.

00:09:51.840 They're politically based, not race-based, and if they're politically based, then they're defensible.

00:09:59.900 Attorney General Paxson, your social media, and where can people go to keep up with this?

00:10:03.920 Because obviously the whole nation now is focused on this.

00:10:06.980 The MSNBC, they've finally woken up and realized they've got a real problem down in the great state of Texas.

00:10:11.640 And I hope Republicans are awakened to what has to happen because this is vitally important.

00:10:16.600 I know the president is watching closely.

00:10:18.640 Where can people follow you?

00:10:20.620 At Ken Paxson TX and KenPaxson.com.

00:10:25.940 Ken Paxson, Attorney General of the great state of Texas.

00:10:28.000 Thank you, sir.

00:10:28.480 Appreciate you coming on.

00:10:29.960 Thank you.

00:10:30.380 We're going to win this.

00:10:30.980 Amen.

00:10:34.540 Your lips to God's ears.

00:10:37.620 Senator Bob Hall joins us now.

00:10:39.440 Senator, people tell me, when I talk to folks down in Texas, I said, Steve, you've got to talk to Bob Hall.

00:10:44.260 He knows what the hell's going on.

00:10:46.140 He's going to get this done.

00:10:47.800 So can you please enlighten us?

00:10:49.140 Now, literally, MSNBC last night, they're in full meltdown after Keem Jeffries came down.

00:10:55.040 Where do we stand with this, Senator?

00:10:58.100 Well, the House has drafted a map.

00:11:00.980 A set of maps for the state.

00:11:03.360 And what I find interesting is our Democrat friends who, ever since the last redistricting, have been in court arguing that the maps are wrong, that the maps are drawn wrong.

00:11:17.820 They need to be changed.

00:11:18.840 And now, all of a sudden, when we're in the process of changing them, they have flipped to the other side and saying, oh, the maps are perfect.

00:11:28.100 We're going to mess them up.

00:11:29.660 We shouldn't be doing this because they're all correct.

00:11:32.340 So I'm not sure our folks on the other side of the aisle really know what their argument is.

00:11:40.000 And it's my understanding.

00:11:42.280 I'm not on that committee.

00:11:43.820 But my understanding that the federal government had given us bad census data.

00:11:49.440 When we drew the maps, some of us questioned it at the time, but said, well, that's what we have to use.

00:11:55.900 That's the only maps, the data we have.

00:11:58.920 And so the maps were drawn with the data that was given.

00:12:01.900 And now we've been given what is said is corrected data that should be used.

00:12:07.680 And so we're in the process.

00:12:10.080 And since the federal government really only has control over the districts for the congressmen, the congressional districts, that's what they said need to be redrawn so that they reflect, properly reflect the population from the census.

00:12:27.160 Can you give us your understanding?

00:12:30.940 We've had some folks on from the House, but from the Senate side, can you work people through what your best estimate right now of the process?

00:12:37.260 These maps are out.

00:12:38.860 Review process.

00:12:40.060 Will they come make?

00:12:41.220 I know they've had witnesses, particularly Democrats, last week.

00:12:44.420 Are they going to come and talk about the demographics?

00:12:47.640 Are you guys as a committee going to make a recommendation?

00:12:50.900 Or is it when do you think this thing will come to a vote?

00:12:55.320 It's my I'm not on that committee.

00:12:57.160 But it's my understanding that the like we do with all bills, the half of the Senate will take a look at it and the Senate will will take will draw their version of interpreting the the census data, the population data will draw their maps.

00:13:17.220 We'll compare them to the house maps and and come to a negotiated agreement on a district by district basis, an agreement between the two of us.

00:13:27.260 That's the way the process works.

00:13:28.840 And then so that we will either adopt what the House has, if we say that's close enough, or we will send a modified version back to the House and they will either adopt it or modify it.

00:13:43.140 We'll go to conference and work out the difference between the two and then have a map that both House committees, both the House and Senate committees agree on.

00:13:54.660 And those who would go to the floor want the same one in the House and the same one in the Senate and voted on.

00:14:01.700 And I expect.

00:14:03.200 Can you just say we're going to take a short commercial break.

00:14:08.260 I want to get more into depth of this, particularly given the timing.

00:14:11.900 You only got like a couple of weeks, but just hang on for one second.

00:14:16.120 Senator Bob Hall of the great state of Texas joins us about the the issue that is absorbing people's attention.

00:14:25.960 Finally, the redistricting of the great state of Texas.

00:14:28.700 You're going to see Florida follow suit.

00:14:30.760 We know that Indiana they're looking at Ohio, Missouri.

00:14:36.060 This will kick a this will kick off a season of redistricting.

00:14:39.180 Also, we're going to talk about rescissions, doing budget cuts.

00:14:41.780 And I told you what the Senate's up to.

00:14:43.940 They're looking at an omnibus.

00:14:46.020 Now they're calling it a minibus.

00:14:48.400 Also, President Trump's recess appointments.

00:14:52.220 Where are they?

00:14:52.920 Where's the recess?

00:14:53.940 Short break.

00:14:54.640 Back in the warm in just a moment.

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00:16:57.060 Okay, welcome back.

00:17:01.160 We've got Senator Bob Hall from Texas.

00:17:04.100 By the way, I'm going to throw another R in there.

00:17:05.940 Fourth R, regime change.

00:17:07.640 Zelensky's just gone to the Financial Times.

00:17:10.100 He's calling for it in Russia.

00:17:12.100 And the Financial Times of London and a bunch of papers have these stories about the MAGA base losing faith in Israel.

00:17:20.200 I really think it's losing faith in Bibi Netanyahu.

00:17:22.500 So maybe regime change here.

00:17:23.660 Anyway, we're going to add another R. 0.66

00:17:25.540 Caroline Wren's going to join us after the Senator Joe Lavagnier, special counsel, senior counselor to the Secretary of Treasurer of Beyond.

00:17:33.780 We've got a lot of economic news to talk about.

00:17:35.340 Senator Mike Lee later.

00:17:37.480 Senator Lee's going to be here about recess appointments.

00:17:39.540 Senator Bob Hall.

00:17:42.220 Senator, we have, I think, 12 days, a couple days here, two weeks.

00:17:47.420 Given the process you just walked through, the Senate, you're going to take your time as you're sure, discern this, do your fiduciary responsibility.

00:17:54.720 Is there enough time to go through all this and to actually get to a vote before the special session ends in essentially two weeks?

00:18:01.980 Yes, I think there is enough time in it.

00:18:06.260 I mean, it could go as fast as the Senate just takes up the House map when it comes out of the House formally and accepts it and adopts it.

00:18:18.240 That could be done.

00:18:19.720 And I would only expect changes in it if there was something the Senate felt that there was significant, an important difference in the two.

00:18:31.280 I don't think you're going to see, well, you know, opinions.

00:18:34.140 I'd like to see this district drawn this way or that way.

00:18:37.380 I think we're looking at if this meets the criteria that was established to have these, you know, properly drawn and balanced the way they should be, that there's any reason that the Senate would prolong it with arguing different maps.

00:18:57.600 But if we did, I would expect to be called back in immediately.

00:19:02.900 I'm talking about, I mean, I say immediate, the next day or so to finish it up.

00:19:08.200 If we did get into a squabble over significant redrawing, we'd have another 30 days to work that on.

00:19:15.980 That's because each special session, once it's called, it's for up to 30 days.

00:19:22.560 So, in other words, like some states can only have, you know, one special session.

00:19:26.240 Now, you're saying in Texas, the governor, the lieutenant governor's got the bill.

00:19:29.860 If you can't get it done, the next day they say, hey, be back here next week.

00:19:33.260 We're going to continue on.

00:19:34.960 That's the governor.

00:19:35.880 Yes.

00:19:36.160 Oh, yeah.

00:19:36.520 The governor has the authority to call us back.

00:19:39.600 Unlimited number of specials.

00:19:41.080 And we'd be in special sessions right up until the next session started, if that's what he chose.

00:19:45.780 A couple of sessions back, I almost thought that's what was going to happen because I don't think we got out of here until about December that year with everything that went on.

00:19:56.240 Sometimes we've been involved in these things, or oftentimes we've been involved in these things in Texas.

00:20:00.760 And the Democrats, you see them leaving the state, hiding.

00:20:04.220 You know, we just had the attorney general on.

00:20:05.940 He put out a tweet saying he would be assistance to all law enforcement in the great state of Texas.

00:20:10.860 Do you anticipate any shenanigans like that?

00:20:13.100 I mean, Hakeem Jeffries, I think, came down and gave him a pep talk, said, hey, you've got to do what you've got to do to stop this because this is the death knell of Hakeem Jeffries being Speaker of the House.

00:20:22.180 Do you have any thoughts on that, about what the Democrats plan to do, and more importantly, what the Republicans and the governor, the lieutenant governor, attorney general, prepare to do, and law enforcement to stop it?

00:20:33.540 I hope our governor is prepared to do whatever it takes to keep them here, here in the speaker.

00:20:40.580 The lieutenant governor really doesn't have a hand in that side of it in there, but history has shown that they have no qualms in just packing up and leaving in order to disrupt the process if they don't like it.

00:20:56.040 I heard what our attorney general, Ken Paxton, had to say earlier, and that would be just fine.

00:21:02.640 Lock the doors and bring in the food and keep them here until we get this done. 0.81

00:21:07.780 All we need is a quorum.

00:21:10.580 We don't need their vote.

00:21:12.260 We just need them here for a quorum.

00:21:14.880 And so-

00:21:15.980 Senator Hall, you would advocate that, if had to.

00:21:20.080 Senator Hall, what's your website people go to, social media, everything?

00:21:23.680 People are very focused on this now and want to kind of stay up on it moment by moment.

00:21:27.780 So where do people go?

00:21:30.480 SenatorBobHall.com.

00:21:34.560 SenatorBobHall.com.

00:21:35.640 Facebook is Senator Bob Hall.

00:21:40.020 Sir, thank you very much.

00:21:41.200 Appreciate you, and we'll be coming back to you.

00:21:43.720 Okay.

00:21:44.260 Thank you.

00:21:44.760 Have a blessed day.

00:21:47.160 Thank you, sir.

00:21:49.080 So, folks, the redistricting fights start, and, of course, now everybody's focused on it.

00:21:53.940 We got on this early because you know the importance of it.

00:21:57.160 Governor DeSantis jumped in here.

00:21:59.020 He thinks he's got five down there.

00:22:01.200 Missouri, Ohio.

00:22:03.600 I'm hearing maybe Indiana.

00:22:05.900 You don't know.

00:22:06.980 And I think a lot of people are going to be looking in the cupboard because Senator Hall, the buried lead there, he's 100% correct.

00:22:12.680 The census last time was not perfect.

00:22:15.240 One, it counted illegal aliens, which it should not have done.

00:22:17.660 Also, there have been massive demographic changes post the pandemic.

00:22:24.160 And the South and the Southwest is literally on fire when it comes to people shifting there and wanting to live there.

00:22:31.580 So, it's time – this is why Florida is doing – looking at five-district change.

00:22:35.360 This is why Texas is looking at a five-district change. 0.55

00:22:37.600 I think you can go throughout the South and Southwest.

00:22:40.120 You'd be surprised, and I would strongly recommend everybody do it.

00:22:43.200 Let's just do it.

00:22:43.720 And I also think we ought to do – I think we ought to do another census right now, a mid-decade census.

00:22:47.880 The Constitution says you've got to do one at least every decade.

00:22:51.080 It doesn't say you can't do more, and I think we ought to do more because the – in California, Illinois, and New York, who are, you know, frothing to get something done,

00:23:00.740 they've got constitutional issues related to that.

00:23:03.860 So, it's not quite so easy.

00:23:04.880 We've just got to get on with it.

00:23:06.020 And you saw Mark Elias.

00:23:08.380 Mark Elias did give a hat tip.

00:23:09.900 You know, Steve Stern had hundreds of thousands, I think, absolutely millions, looking at the stream yesterday.

00:23:14.300 All you folks that are the vanguard of the precinct strategy and the vanguard of election integrity, your work is paying off.

00:23:21.780 I know sometimes it seems like you guys don't get the hat tips and you don't get the accolades, but it was not for you.

00:23:28.280 In particular, the boys like Matt, Matt, Mac, and all these people that come to all these conferences.

00:23:32.740 I've spoken to one.

00:23:34.200 Matt and the team had in Vegas a couple of weeks ago by video, and it's just – the work you guys put in, the effort you put in is paying off.

00:23:42.160 And Mark Elias, who's the greatest enemy of MAGA, he gave you a big shout-out on MSNBC.

00:23:47.920 He said, hey, these guys are winning all over the country because of the work, and that's why we get these redistricting done.

00:23:53.440 Caroline Wren joins us.

00:23:54.460 So, Caroline, we've got the three R's, you've got redistricting, you've got the rescissions, and you've got recess.

00:24:01.600 Why is the Senate – it seems that – why are we having the Senate leave town when – and you were there last night.

00:24:09.280 In fact, I'd like you to say a few words.

00:24:10.860 You had a great event put on by Mike Davis in Article 3 over at Rahim Kassam's Butterworth for Emil Bovee.

00:24:18.240 You had Judge Jeanine there.

00:24:19.520 It was just absolutely incredible, but it shows you the power of what happens when we start getting President Trump's team in.

00:24:28.320 You know, Joe Kent got confirmed yesterday, but these are onesies, twosies.

00:24:31.520 I mean, we've got a couple of judges, I think four or five judges now.

00:24:35.160 You've got – I think she's the first U.S. attorney to actually be confirmed.

00:24:39.880 Seagal Chata and some of the other contributors to the War Room have gotten in because of this acting basis.

00:24:46.620 Of course, they're trying to throw a lean habob out. 1.00

00:24:49.140 Tell me about the event last night and how important it is to actually get our arms around this vast government to get these confirmations done, ma'am.

00:24:57.300 Yeah, the event last night was wonderful.

00:25:01.120 It was put on by Mike Davis, the Article 3 project, and so it was to, you know, celebrate now Judge Emil Bovee being able to get in.

00:25:08.600 What I found pretty special about it is Mike Davis gave some words and the judge gave some words, and the judge said, which is absolutely true,

00:25:16.760 when you go through confirmation processes like this, it can feel so lonely.

00:25:20.380 They were throwing everything at this guy to keep him out.

00:25:22.800 I mean, attacking him, his personalized family, and it was really – it was Article 3 project, Mike Davis, the War Room posse, that were so loud in his corner.

00:25:31.780 And he talked about this.

00:25:32.900 He said, look, I would go home and just be so down.

00:25:35.960 Look on the Internet.

00:25:36.720 I had this army behind me online of people I don't even know who were supporting me, and that is the power of this War Room and what we need to be doing and focusing on because we have a problem.

00:25:45.500 There are certain senators – like you had Tom Tillis saying, what was it, like a week or two ago saying, I'm going to be – I'm going to stand up against President Trump and his nominee so much harder than even Mitt Romney did.

00:25:54.580 And these are the type of people, and Bill Cassidy and others, that are blocking some of these great Trump nominees who are immensely qualified.

00:26:01.420 You just have these, you know, career bureaucrat or politicians who just hate MAGA, they hate the movement, and they're Republicans in name only who just want to block these folks from coming in.

00:26:11.000 And so, frankly, you have 144 nominees now pending.

00:26:14.560 This is outrageous, and the Senate should not have a recess without triggering President Trump's recess appointment authority.

00:26:20.840 So either stay in session in August and do your damn job or let President Trump make recess appointments to fill his team because he needs his team in there.

00:26:30.200 President Trump has had the most successful first six months that has ever existed in presidential history.

00:26:36.440 Can you imagine if he had his full team operating and in there what could get done?

00:26:40.720 That is why they want to block these folks from coming in, and that is why President Trump and John Thude and Mike Johnson should steamroll this and get these folks through and stay in in August and get it done.

00:26:50.000 So we have Senator Lee's going to come on, and he's got this idea.

00:26:54.600 He's put up, I call it the Lee Plan, and saying, hey, there's 149 guys to go.

00:26:59.880 We stay in, and here's the program of how we have to do it.

00:27:03.860 Semaphore has up today, Ben Smith, Semaphore has an exclusive story, I think, saying, hey, Thune's got an idea.

00:27:10.700 They're going to do some changes because right now everything's being filibustered.

00:27:15.880 They're going to the absolute maximum time.

00:27:18.680 So he's got a solution to do some structural changes to that so they don't have so much time.

00:27:24.220 But that's not going to kick in.

00:27:25.740 They're going to go on recess.

00:27:27.260 All of September, and I'm going to get to this in a moment with you, all of September is going to be spending, folks.

00:27:31.440 That's where we got the worm ahead of it.

00:27:33.040 And you can tell already we smoked them out on this.

00:27:36.480 We smoked them out on the omnibus.

00:27:38.700 Now they're talking about a minibus.

00:27:40.520 So they're not going to be able to get to any kind of confirmations.

00:27:44.900 There'll be in October where they'll be making these marginal changes.

00:27:47.960 Trump will be the end of the year and won't have his team.

00:27:50.460 It's just simply, simply, simply not acceptable.

00:27:53.960 Caroline Wren's going to hang around.

00:27:55.140 Joe LaVarnier from Treasury.

00:27:57.140 We're going to talk some economics of what's really going on.

00:27:59.540 Also, I think there's some big breaking news.

00:28:03.040 John Solomon put it up in the Tulsi Gabbard treasonous conspiracy, which is everything.

00:28:07.560 We've got to stick the landing.

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00:29:35.560 Do you have any issues with this White House taking the power of the purse away from Congress?

00:29:41.600 Do you worry that what's happening right now is sort of making Congress a rubber stamp and, I'm careful how I say this, but a lesser branch of government?

00:29:51.280 You know, I think for a long time Congress has been abdicating their power of the purse.

00:29:56.500 In fact, what happens almost every year is there are no appropriation bills and there's one big bill.

00:30:02.960 And really, most rank-and-file people have nothing to do with it.

00:30:06.660 Even the appropriation committees have very little to do with it.

00:30:09.440 And one person, the leader of the majority and the leader of the minority, work out the details.

00:30:14.700 And if you're a special interest and you want one specific tax break, you don't bother talking to any rank-and-file congressman to tell them the pros and cons of this.

00:30:22.880 You go to one person.

00:30:23.860 And that's why the leaders in both parties raise millions and millions of dollars because both corporate and labor interests only go to the top of the party, only go to the leadership.

00:30:35.320 And the whole, you know, having the power of the purse and the adjudication of what we spend doesn't really happen because the process is so broken.

00:30:43.880 We rarely have budgets.

00:30:45.240 We rarely have appropriations bill.

00:30:46.680 So it's what I've been telling people since the first big, beautiful bill of the summer is we're going to get another big, beautiful omnibus come the end of September.

00:30:55.520 And that's what normally happens.

00:30:56.980 Some enormous bill nobody can read, put out without a couple hours to look at it.

00:31:01.320 That's what will happen September 30th because the system is so broken.

00:31:04.820 People haven't woken up enough to really change it.

00:31:09.500 Okay, welcome back.

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00:31:23.200 Of course, you saw yesterday President Trump drop the hammer in Brazil.

00:31:28.260 Now, that was about Bolsonaro and also shutting down free speech and social media sites, et cetera.

00:31:33.680 But some of that is about Lula and his interview in The New York Times and Smat talking about the bricks and the de-dollarization and all that.

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00:31:50.480 Right there, I told you this was happening.

00:31:53.300 Rand Paul let the cat out of the bag the other night on Stephanie Rule.

00:31:57.580 They're going to come in and they're going to hold President Trump's government hostage.

00:32:01.800 They'll say at midnight on 30th with no funding package, it's going to shut down.

00:32:07.680 And instead of just doing a CR and playing the game, let's just kick it down to Christmas and then we'll deal with it before Christmas.

00:32:13.200 And then we'll get the big omnibus.

00:32:15.220 They're just going to get up in your face in the third week of September with an omnibus.

00:32:20.700 And you're going to have to suck on it.

00:32:22.220 Right?

00:32:22.500 It's going to have all the debauchery that these things have in there.

00:32:25.520 And plus, you're going to see a lot of the AI and all the stuff we've been finding.

00:32:30.540 This is all going to be tucked in there in 9,000 pages.

00:32:32.640 It's coming, folks.

00:32:34.160 It's coming.

00:32:34.800 I'm going to get back to Caroline.

00:32:35.960 She's going to join us.

00:32:36.620 We did redistricting.

00:32:37.980 We're doing the recess appointments.

00:32:39.480 We're going to get to her about rescissions.

00:32:41.000 We haven't seen our rescissions packages, our pocket rescissions.

00:32:44.360 But I got Joe LaVornia here.

00:32:45.840 And we got to take care of some other business first.

00:32:49.140 And Joe, that would be – or first off, Joe, last night on CNN and MSNBC and all day,

00:32:54.280 all they did was dump on the 3% growth.

00:32:58.760 As you know, we had you on here and we said, hey, the supply side cut, we get to 3%.

00:33:02.620 We get higher, 3.4, 3.5.

00:33:05.080 We grow our way out of here.

00:33:06.860 They're saying last night, oh, this is kind of a phony number.

00:33:09.500 There's all kind of storm clouds on the horizon underneath it.

00:33:12.620 Your thoughts about that, sir?

00:33:13.980 Thought about the 3% growth, what it really stands for.

00:33:17.200 How strong was that print in your opinion, sir?

00:33:21.100 It was a good number, Steve.

00:33:22.520 I mean, the first quarter was weak.

00:33:24.180 I would not be surprised if the first quarter was revived substantially higher.

00:33:28.520 It's happened in six out of the last nine years.

00:33:30.540 We've had substantial upper revisions to GDP.

00:33:33.160 What we know is we've got very good income growth because the labor market's healthy.

00:33:37.160 We had a very firm reading today in the Q2 Employment Cost Index.

00:33:42.540 So if you have good jobs and good incomes, then clearly you've got good GDP.

00:33:47.560 It's the other side of the same coin.

00:33:48.960 So the numbers are good, and people are obviously trying to talk it away because they don't want to give the president any credit.

00:33:53.680 Look, what I love most was private growth more than public growth.

00:33:59.580 I mean, it shows the plan.

00:34:00.900 It shows the plan that you're trying to get your arms around spending, get the government out of everywhere.

00:34:05.280 Because every print, all this growth that Biden had, we used to do this all the time with E.J. and Tony.

00:34:10.320 Every time we would back out the government number, and we were in a recession.

00:34:14.320 The private growth was negative.

00:34:16.520 What I like most was the private growth yesterday.

00:34:18.740 What do you got to say about that?

00:34:19.820 Yeah, no, that's right, and there's an adjustment period.

00:34:22.440 I mean, you had, as Secretary Besant, Steve has highlighted many times, I mean, we got the economy that looked like it was at full employment with a deficit to GDP that was nearly 7%,

00:34:32.720 which you've never had during peacetime or not in a recessionary period.

00:34:38.160 So there's clearly an adjustment.

00:34:39.820 The great news is that the one big, beautiful bill is passed.

00:34:43.200 We've got the CapEx comeback.

00:34:44.920 Inflation is moving lower, so real wages are expanding, especially for blue-collar workers.

00:34:49.280 And the outlook is very bright.

00:34:51.840 And the pace of layoffs, which is low, is falling even further.

00:34:57.200 If you look at the most recent jobless claims, they've now moved down to recent lows.

00:35:01.860 That bodes well for a much bigger pickup in second-half hiring, which is consistent with what happens when you have the CapEx story, the hiring then follows.

00:35:10.980 So you could poo-poo the Q2 GDP number is all you want, but you're going to be disappointed it was a good number.

00:35:15.960 And the best thing is growth is going to broaden out going forward, and we're going to look at a boom.

00:35:20.620 Yeah, and this gets us to – if this is a predicate, it gets us to a 3.4, 3.5, and then even higher.

00:35:28.840 So this is a great print.

00:35:31.260 I want to make sure – the other thing they're doing is saying, hey, President Trump's a real estate developer.

00:35:35.440 Real estate developers always love easy money.

00:35:37.580 They love cheap money.

00:35:38.400 So when he's sitting there banging on Powell and wanting a big rate cut, a couple hundred basis points, that's just from his – that's his natural reaction because he's a real estate developer, and they always want lower rates because it's much easier to finance their projects.

00:35:52.540 But they missed the point.

00:35:53.880 President Trump understands the Fed.

00:35:55.820 He understands interest rates, the structure of them.

00:35:57.900 There's actually a very compelling argument to be made about what we call natural rates versus what should happen right now.

00:36:04.840 Can you walk through – because we had Fishback on the other day, he's of the same school of thought we are – that there's a big miss here on the modeling.

00:36:12.320 Can you walk people through what this concept of how they model it, what are natural rates, and what's the logical – where should rates really be today?

00:36:21.080 Steve, the president has great instincts, and you could make a very compelling – in fact, the strongest case for why rates should fall, which the president instinctively knows.

00:36:31.320 And that is, the Federal Reserve makes an estimate of what it thinks the neutral rate is, or the real rate, or R-star, all these fancy terms.

00:36:39.760 Essentially, are rates helping keep the economy – are they pushing the economy down, or are they pulling the economy up?

00:36:47.640 By the Fed's own estimates – and there's a range of estimates – the full range of estimates all show that the current level of interest rates that the Fed sets is too high,

00:36:57.680 meaning that the Fed's current rate structure is actually impeding growth.

00:37:02.780 So as good as the economy is, and as nice as that rebound in Q2 was, and as optimistic as we are for the second half of the year,

00:37:10.180 we could do even better if rates weren't so high.

00:37:13.040 That's by the Fed's own admission.

00:37:14.880 Rates have been high for three years.

00:37:17.140 The markets are saying the exact same thing.

00:37:19.480 If you look at where interest rates are, long-term Treasury yields are trading below the Fed funds rate.

00:37:25.460 It's happened for three years in a row.

00:37:27.680 That has never happened before.

00:37:29.340 So it's not just the Fed's internal models which are saying rates are too high.

00:37:33.560 Bond investors themselves are saying rates are too high.

00:37:36.540 If you lower rates, mortgage rates will fall.

00:37:40.140 That will improve housing affordability.

00:37:42.280 It will help first-time homebuyers, which have really struggled to buy homes.

00:37:47.140 And those parts of the economy which could do better, like housing, which are weak, would certainly flourish.

00:37:51.740 So President Trump's instincts and understanding of the problem are very accurate.

00:37:59.240 And I take it the range of the natural rates are, what, 2.5% to 3.9%, right?

00:38:03.940 I think it is.

00:38:04.600 That's right.

00:38:05.240 And you're saying the argument that Trump administration – you guys are saying you believe you should have at least 100 basis point cut.

00:38:12.280 Even the 25 they're talking about in September, you don't think gets to solve the problems.

00:38:17.700 You guys are much more aggressive about this because you think the data shows you that, right?

00:38:22.340 Well, Steve, here's what you could say.

00:38:23.740 I mean, so you're 50 basis points.

00:38:25.880 You're half a percent above the highest estimate on the FOMC.

00:38:29.720 Those are the real inflation hawks.

00:38:31.920 The median estimate's around 3%.

00:38:33.680 So you're almost 150 basis points right now above neutral.

00:38:37.940 So you can understand why the president says rates should fall significantly further.

00:38:41.860 But here's the other point, Steve, which is very important.

00:38:43.860 If you look at the Fed's own forecast of inflation, they went up from March to June.

00:38:49.560 Their official inflation forecast went up when, over that time, headline inflation actually fell.

00:38:57.220 So their estimates went up as inflation dropped a bit.

00:39:00.560 So if they're data dependent, you look at the numbers, you look at what the markets are saying, their own estimates,

00:39:06.720 and you can make the strongest case, which is pretty obvious, why interest rates are supposed to fall,

00:39:11.880 which is why two governors dissented for the first time in over 30 years.

00:39:17.860 No, it's pretty extraordinary.

00:39:19.240 Those normally have unanimity.

00:39:21.720 They had two outliers who kind of made the case.

00:39:25.360 Jackson Hole is coming up.

00:39:28.060 Will the Secretary of Treasury go out?

00:39:29.620 Will he address the Fed's – I think the Fed has a two- or three-day Jackson Hole conference.

00:39:34.980 Will the Secretary of Treasury go out and address the central bankers and big hedge fund managers out there?

00:39:42.340 Yeah, I don't believe that the Secretary is going to Jackson Hole this year, but the Fed will discuss the outlook.

00:39:49.380 And the markets typically look for the Fed chair to tell us something about what the Fed thinks will happen at the September meeting.

00:39:55.560 The bond market right now is sort of iffy on whether the Fed will cut rates in September, and that's because of what Jay Powell said yesterday.

00:40:05.340 But again, Steve, you could make a very strong argument, an intellectual argument, an academic argument, if you will, why interest rates are much too high.

00:40:14.260 Do you think that he's now being – this is purely political, that this is because of the disagreements he has with President Trump and particularly about not just the running of the Fed but also the cost overruns with what we call the Versailles on Constitution Avenue?

00:40:33.080 Do you think it's just – he's just being ornery?

00:40:35.840 He's just not going to – when all the evidence points to logically you should have a rate cut, that he's just not doing it because of personality and politics?

00:40:45.540 Steve, the tariff is – the Secretary has argued that if there is a tariff impact, it is a one-off price level adjustment.

00:40:53.500 There are a couple of theories that might suggest there's some tariff effect, very minimal.

00:40:58.060 The point is that overall, the data the last five months have been essentially better, all the data have almost been better than expected, whether it's the consumer price index, import prices, producer prices, the consumer – the personal consumption expenditure deflator, all these different metrics all have been better than expected.

00:41:16.680 We still haven't seen an aggregate – any tariff effect, so I'll leave it there.

00:41:20.740 But the data certainly say there's not an effect, so I'm not sure what people are waiting for.

00:41:24.320 Joe, where do people keep up with you on social media?

00:41:30.500 At Livornianomics, Steve, at Livornianomics.

00:41:33.360 Thank you.

00:41:35.340 Thank you, brother.

00:41:36.140 Very clear.

00:41:38.720 Incredible good news out of that.

00:41:40.120 Remember, we kept harping about, hey, the supply site cut.

00:41:43.000 And look, we weren't – there were parts of the big, beautiful bill we were not fans of, right?

00:41:47.840 Particularly, we strongly recommended there should be a tax increase for the wealthy.

00:41:52.480 There's many of the spending things we were not happy with.

00:41:55.020 But we said you have – like Scott said on this show for two years before he became Secretary of Treasury.

00:42:00.700 It was very simple.

00:42:02.000 He said you're going to have one shot, your last shot, to do a supply side cut.

00:42:05.240 That means to focus tax cuts on production, on capital, on capital formation, that you can actually turn America back into a manufacturing superpower, right?

00:42:14.980 A manufacturing hegemon.

00:42:17.640 And we said, hey, to even have a chance to try to grow your way out of this, which is a long shot, you've got to get to 3.5% growth or higher.

00:42:27.140 The first way you do that is kind of get to the 2.8% to 3% that President Trump – he had an average of 2.8% in his first term.

00:42:34.240 It went to 3.4% in 2019, the fourth quarter, before the bioweapon of the Chinese Communist Party was dropped on our head. 0.99

00:42:41.760 And you have to get there, and that's why the print yesterday I think was an incredibly solid print.

00:42:46.560 And the left-wing haters are in meltdown.

00:42:50.280 This is why you can't – you can't compromise these people.

00:42:53.700 Nothing you can do is – nothing you can do is they're going to agree with or they're going to support you.

00:42:59.360 They hate President Trump.

00:43:00.280 They hate MAGA.

00:43:01.160 They hate the country.

00:43:03.480 This is why we're going to pick it up with the Caroline Wren after the break, rescissions.

00:43:07.120 We've got to get these cuts.

00:43:08.300 Remember, the big, beautiful bill was passed because of assurances we're going to have rescissions, pocket rescissions, impoundments.

00:43:14.360 You've got to cut because the Senate's playing games.

00:43:17.180 Just like they're not giving President Trump his team, and it's obvious they're not giving him his team, they're also not going to do any cuts.

00:43:24.000 In fact, they're going to come in with more spending in September.

00:43:28.540 Short break.

00:43:29.280 Back in a moment.

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00:44:55.780 War Room.

00:44:58.040 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:45:00.060 Bannon.

00:45:04.180 Okay.

00:45:05.540 We're going to get to spending in a second.

00:45:07.080 They've coordinated a declassification.

00:45:10.620 Okay.

00:45:10.760 You just hit part of it.

00:45:12.740 As we've been telling you, John Solomon's been telling you, and he had a great piece up on Just the News, and I got it up on Getter.

00:45:18.480 This is why if you want to keep up, the show's a 24-hour process, right?

00:45:22.920 We're on for two hours in the morning, two hours in the afternoon.

00:45:25.040 That's for us.

00:45:25.520 But we're putting the show together.

00:45:27.620 We're talking to people about what's going on.

00:45:29.760 I'm continually getting information and putting up articles and things that I think you ought to read.

00:45:37.100 Even a lot of time, I go to the most progressive or liberal, the Guardian and others, so you can see kind of the counter-narrative because this is all narrative warfare, right?

00:45:48.020 John Solomon gives us stuff all day long.

00:45:50.600 So this is why Getter is totally free, and it's super easy.

00:45:54.160 Like I said, I'm an idiot in this regard.

00:45:57.540 I can really use Getter well every now and again.

00:46:00.940 Grace or Moe or Elizabeth has to help me out, but, you know, they've taken the training wheels off.

00:46:05.760 My point is you can keep up 24-7.

00:46:07.660 I put up something with John Solomon of Just the News earlier this morning about this.

00:46:13.480 So let's have a partner's discussion about this.

00:46:17.200 We have to stick the landing on the Tulsi Gabbard treasonous conspiracy event, right?

00:46:24.160 We know that.

00:46:25.120 This is about how you take down the deep state.

00:46:27.420 And if all the great stuff that we're doing, if we haven't taken apart the deep state by the time President Trump's terms end,

00:46:35.540 then we will have absolutely failed in our effort to make America great again.

00:46:40.100 We will be, you know, 90 percent of the way there economically and all the great stuff President Trump's doing is securing the border and deportation.

00:46:47.100 But a lot of that can be unwound when President Trump leaves.

00:46:51.200 And this is why we've got to take the deep state on now and crush it.

00:46:54.500 That's what this entire thing is about.

00:46:56.520 And I'm a big advocate either through the grand jury process, a special counsel, however they want to give it to a U.S. attorney.

00:47:03.360 Somehow justice has got to get a team to do this.

00:47:05.920 Now, they said they put together a strike force because it's so complicated and they're so busy.

00:47:10.140 I mean, you know, and they've only got a handful of people over there and they're fighting, I think, still 175 court cases on the Democrats and these radical judges trying to suppress President Trump's Article 2 powers because to delay is to deny.

00:47:25.400 And they're running the clock out.

00:47:27.060 You can tell that.

00:47:28.100 And so that's why you need special people on it.

00:47:30.500 Now, we do know that there are some very focused individuals and very focused legal proceedings that are going on right now that are pretty advanced.

00:47:41.780 And I think you're going to see the fruits of those very shortly.

00:47:44.640 Now, one of the big things, and this kind of drives you crazy, of why we didn't demand it in the first term.

00:47:51.520 And this is the whole Durham report.

00:47:53.120 And the Durham report's classified and it's supposed to be highly classified appendix.

00:47:58.100 Senator Grassley is now starting, I think, is starting to get bled out.

00:48:01.440 So Caroline Wren this morning.

00:48:03.940 And already, as part of this, you're seeing Fox News has got up sources alleged ties to Russiagate exposed and declassified annex of Durham report.

00:48:13.780 Sub-headline is CIA Director John Ratcliffe and FBI Director Cash Patel coordinated in the declassification of annex as Grassley makes it public.

00:48:23.460 You know, it begs the question, why didn't we do it last time?

00:48:25.600 But, hey, that's a conversation for a different day.

00:48:27.580 It's out now and it's pretty explosive and it shows you the highly coordinated effort.

00:48:33.240 You're pretty unique, Caroline.

00:48:36.060 I think that you keep your hand on – you talk to grassroots leaders every day, the MAGA leaders of what they're working on, what they need for funding, you know, how it's going with them.

00:48:46.120 You're also very close, obviously, with the donors.

00:48:48.780 Walk me through the importance of keeping people with the program by sticking the landing on this Tulsi Gabbard situation and, in that process, getting some resolution to the Epstein situation.

00:49:02.560 Ma'am.

00:49:02.940 Well, this was an interesting thing that just came out now because the last time I was on your show, I kind of – I said Tulsi Gabbard just, you know, did what Durham never could do over, you know, the course of that two-year investigation.

00:49:15.700 Tulsi put it all out in a day.

00:49:16.980 You kind of defended Durham and said, oh, well, you didn't defend it.

00:49:19.780 You said, wait a minute.

00:49:20.480 They didn't fully put out what his report was.

00:49:22.840 Well, that is what just came out today, I think.

00:49:25.020 Now I've gotten to read all of it, but my understanding is that they finally fully declassified a lot of the things that Durham did work on and put it out in the public.

00:49:32.620 But it does beg the question of, like, why didn't they do this originally?

00:49:36.300 And so I'm so glad this is why appointments matter, your cabinet matters.

00:49:41.060 And so Mike Pompeo and others wanted to block this for forever, so cheers to John Ratcliffe and truly Tulsi Gabbard, who has been in the driver's seat on this, saying, no, no, no, I am not going to stop until you declassify and put this out and show some transparency.

00:49:54.480 So I want to pour through all of this.

00:49:56.800 It seems to be what we have always put together and known, which is that, you know, this entire Russia hoax started between Obama and the Clinton campaign, colluding to try and take down Donald Trump and to destroy his presidency.

00:50:10.020 But the people in the public deserve and need to know the weaponization that our own government did against a duly elected president.

00:50:18.320 And so, again, I'm so thrilled right now with Tulsi Gabbard.

00:50:22.440 I applaud Kash Patel for working on this as well.

00:50:24.820 This is the cabinet that we push so hard for, and this is the transparency that we want to see.

00:50:31.760 How important is it?

00:50:32.880 You know, we're fighting this redistricting right now, and, you know, we're fighting for five seats in Texas.

00:50:37.080 We're fighting for five in Florida and a couple more.

00:50:39.840 I think you'd get up to 14 or 15 seats.

00:50:43.180 But even when you get the redistricting, you still need the hardest core of the hardcore, the people that do the canvassing, the people that back Scott Pressler, the people that do the precinct strategy.

00:50:55.300 The vanguard, right, of the movement are the ones that do the most work, right?

00:50:59.760 And it's laborious.

00:51:01.140 They don't get paid.

00:51:02.040 They volunteer.

00:51:02.560 They do it for the spirit of the country.

00:51:04.540 You've got to keep those people motivated.

00:51:06.260 If they get cynical, if they get apathetic, if they just say – if 10 percent of those people say, it's too much and I haven't seen anything, it's all talk, you're finished.

00:51:14.640 Give me a minute on that before we go to break, ma'am. 0.99

00:51:16.680 I would be remiss right now not to mention the fact that I would like to see a little bit of a harder fight.

00:51:22.480 You're talking about the base and people have worked on this.

00:51:24.780 Tina Peters is still sitting in a prison cell right now. 1.00

00:51:27.400 Tyler Boyer is still under indictment in Arizona.

00:51:29.920 We still have these electors under indictment bleeding out money, getting chased down in Arizona, Michigan.

00:51:36.440 Fannie Willis, by the way, the Georgia case has not gone away.

00:51:39.400 We still have these Georgia electors.

00:51:40.960 I'm talking to some of these folks.

00:51:42.060 They're getting buried in legal bills.

00:51:43.700 We as a party, we as a MAGA movement, we need to do more to go help those people, help with their legal bills.

00:51:49.000 And Trump should stop the funding to any of – I mean, use every single tool in the book.

00:51:52.940 We cannot leave these people to be hung to dry out there right now.

00:51:57.260 And so I just – I want to reiterate that.

00:51:58.700 I want to do more with you, Steve, to come up with a plan.

00:52:02.280 Well, the state of Georgia – so you've got all kind of ways that you can do this.

00:52:05.720 And I think it's a federal – part of it's a federal – you've got state, you've got federal.

00:52:09.900 It could be all dropped immediately, particularly these charges.

00:52:13.180 And Tina Peters, she's still rotting in a prison. 1.00

00:52:15.680 Anyway, you stick around.

00:52:16.900 I want to finish with this recisions and spending.

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Bannon's War Room - July 31, 2025

Episode 4672： Redistricting In Texas; Maintaining A Strong Economy

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