Bannon's War Room - August 04, 2025


Episode 4682: Bondi Pushes For Investigation Into Clinton Russia Hoax; Arresting Texas Dems


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54 minutes

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00:00:00.000 We will follow your lead tomorrow. Steve Bannon, thank you so much for your time.
00:00:05.080 Eric Bolling, always a pleasure. John Salmon's with us. We've got a great cold open. Let's go
00:00:10.000 ahead and hit it. We don't have a moment to spare. We're packed. Christina Bob,
00:00:12.920 Brian Harrison, Kurt Mills, just in the first hour, second hour is packed. Let's go ahead and
00:00:16.940 let it rip. If we don't stick the landing on this, and when I mean landing, I mean some indictments,
00:00:22.040 right, and some perp walks, you're going to lose five to 10 percent of the hardest core of the
00:00:28.000 MAGA base, and I'm talking about the people that canvas, that walk these districts, that knock
00:00:32.040 on doors, the Scott Pressler crowd, right? You're going to lose them, and if we lose them, I don't
00:00:36.820 care if we've redished it at 12 seats. We're going to have a tough time hanging on, because people,
00:00:41.420 on this one, they think it's egregious enough, and they agree with you, and they agree with the
00:00:45.760 President of the United States. This is the greatest political crime in the history of the nation, sir.
00:00:51.220 Yeah, well, listen, I think it all rests with making sure that the Justice Department
00:00:55.900 sticks this, that it resources it right, that it gets the right people in here. The great thing
00:01:00.620 about the strike force, you don't need to have Senate-confirmed people on a strike force.
00:01:04.540 Get the best prosecutors, the best agents they can find. The roadmap has already been built.
00:01:10.200 Cash Patel wrote the roadmap, the grand conspiracy case, but there's lots and lots of work that has
00:01:16.280 to happen very quickly. For instance, if you're going to bring the case in Florida, like what some
00:01:21.740 people have been thinking about, you've got to create the research work. If she was Jack Smith
00:01:26.420 looking for Russia collusion documents when he went to Mar-a-Lago, everybody says it, including
00:01:30.800 Devin Nunes and Cash Patel, but you've got to find those documents and put them out there.
00:01:35.300 You've got to assign a grand jury. You've got to start bringing people in. You've got to do like
00:01:39.820 what Jerry Dunleavy did this morning, which is, all right, Hillary Clinton's out there the last five
00:01:43.340 days on a propaganda thing. This is Russian disinformation. I never proved any plan.
00:01:48.400 She admitted to proving a plan. Go through her book. Go through her speeches. Go through the
00:01:53.040 op-eds her staff wrote. They were so proud of what they did back in 2017. They bragged about it.
00:01:58.440 That is impeachable material. That takes time to do it. We have an 8,000-word story today,
00:02:03.500 basically the signed confessions of all of the Clinton team admitting they did this,
00:02:07.940 even though now they're claiming they didn't. But that's what prosecutors also have to do.
00:02:12.100 We have to demand that Pam Bondi give us regular updates so that we can not just hear that a strike force
00:02:17.920 has been named. But who's on it? Where's it being worked? Where are the first subpoenas?
00:02:22.520 If we don't see action, it isn't just losing 5% to 10% of the MAGA base short-term, which I agree
00:02:28.040 with you. You might even lose more than that, Steve. But long-term, if we don't punish the behavior
00:02:33.340 that we now know exists out there in its most extraneous form, the temptation to do this the next
00:02:39.460 time Democrats are in power is going to be enormous. You are going to handicap the future of this country
00:02:45.020 and destined it to be a banana republic because the Democrats got away with it this time.
00:02:49.800 That's the stakes are even higher than losing the MAGA base.
00:02:53.000 That Jack Smith was violating the hatch hatch when he was investigating Donald Trump. When you
00:02:57.460 investigate political people, your work is going to become necessarily political, and it is going to
00:03:02.440 perhaps affect political investigations or political elections. That is not what the goal was here,
00:03:08.440 as is obvious from the indictment that was handed up by a federal grand jury. But I think the risk to
00:03:14.780 Jack Smith is that he gets accused of criminal misconduct. And even though I am confident that
00:03:20.680 there are checks in the criminal justice system to prevent his ultimate conviction, it is very
00:03:25.040 unpleasant to be investigated for a crime. You have to use resources to hire an attorney. Your reputation is
00:03:32.640 harmed. You might become the target of threats or harassment. Your family can be harassed. So
00:03:37.420 all of those things can make life very difficult for Jack Smith. And it seems to be exactly what
00:03:42.260 Donald Trump said he was going to do when he campaigned on the theme of retaliating against
00:03:47.060 his rivals. And it can be very expensive as well. Jack Smith is not a government employee anymore. So
00:03:52.540 Barb, does the OSC even have the authority to investigate him at this point?
00:03:58.240 It really doesn't, but it doesn't seem like that's going to stop things. Now, I suppose to the extent
00:04:02.820 there is anybody in Jack Smith's office or elsewhere who does remain a government employee,
00:04:09.540 that could give them the hook to hang their hat on and say that there was some aspect of this office
00:04:14.440 that is still in office. The other thing that I think is always a possibility is a referral to
00:04:21.020 the inspector general's office. The inspector general, of course, looks into claims of fraud,
00:04:25.740 waste and abuse. And if there is some discovery here that there was an abuse of power,
00:04:29.820 that could open the door to an inspector general investigation. All of these things just leave
00:04:34.920 Jack Smith exposed to what seems to me to be baseless investigations.
00:04:39.300 Adding to the pile that we've seen, we've reported that the FBI is now investigating James Comey,
00:04:44.060 John Brennan. Those are two more officials who, of course, investigated Trump. We also saw the
00:04:48.620 firing of the commissioner of labor statistics. And what does all of this say to you about just how
00:04:54.720 far Trump and his allies will go to prosecute, discredit the people who stand in his way?
00:05:01.600 Well, I think there are two things that are happening. One is an effort to rewrite history,
00:05:04.820 to suggest that these investigations into Donald Trump, even findings against him,
00:05:09.620 were all part of a disinformation campaign. They were all political interference.
00:05:13.820 And they're all false. That is an effort to rewrite history. Even this episode at the Smithsonian to
00:05:20.020 remove references to Donald Trump's impeachment, I think, are all very disturbing efforts to change
00:05:25.520 the narrative, right up there with the pardoning of the January 6th defendants. But I think another
00:05:30.780 long-term consequence is the chilling effect it might have on government employees to do their jobs.
00:05:35.620 If you know that the wrath of Donald Trump and his supporters might be directed at you,
00:05:40.120 I could see federal agents or prosecutors shirking their responsibilities to bring cases against
00:05:46.720 powerful people, whether that's Donald Trump or other people in power, for fear that they could
00:05:51.120 be next.
00:05:54.020 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:05:58.900 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:06:04.120 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The people have had a belly full
00:06:09.660 of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in the world to stop
00:06:13.360 that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
00:06:15.500 And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega Media. I wish in my soul,
00:06:22.260 I wish that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my
00:06:28.620 purpose? If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:06:35.840 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.
00:06:39.240 It's Monday, 4 August, year of Alert 2025. Thank you for joining the late afternoon, early
00:06:47.900 evening edition. John Solomon joins us now. John, I don't know if they're watching clips
00:06:52.980 over at DOJ, if you've got a pipeline, but you're on quite a roll on coming on board and
00:06:58.340 say, hey, I think, you know, if this logic continues, this is what's going to happen.
00:07:03.840 And tell us what happened today between this morning when you called it and this afternoon
00:07:08.500 when it became a called shot.
00:07:10.760 Yeah. So today the Justice Department informed some people that have critical evidence important
00:07:16.680 to the weaponization grand conspiracy case that there is a prosecutor named and that there
00:07:21.940 will be a grand jury impaneled and that a real investigation will be underway. That's a
00:07:26.420 very important moment. It's a normal moment. When you're about to do a grand jury investigation,
00:07:31.680 people, particularly in the government, agencies that are cooperating, they get notified, hey,
00:07:37.520 you're going to, we're going to send you a subpoena now. So there's a chain of custody
00:07:40.720 for this evidence, send it over now. And they usually will tell you the prosecutor you'll
00:07:44.540 be dealing with. So that began happening today. And that is a sign, as we were talking about
00:07:49.540 this morning, that this is getting serious now, that the steps are being taken to take that
00:07:54.180 grand conspiracy investigation that, that the FBI and Kash Patel sort of drafted out
00:08:00.800 and put it to a prosecutor and start getting evidence in the mill and start letting jurors
00:08:05.560 hear what really went on.
00:08:09.060 Why did they, all MSNBC and folks this afternoon, focus on Jack Smith? It's broader than that,
00:08:14.740 but why did they, was there any hint or any leak that this was, had something to do with
00:08:19.760 Jack Smith or they immediately jumped on Jack Smith in the Hatch Act?
00:08:22.960 Yeah, it's, I think it's the announcement on, over the weekend that the Office of Special
00:08:28.460 Counsel has a Hatch Act violation. And by the way, that's the sort of thing that could
00:08:32.720 eventually get rolled up to a special prosecutor, an all-encompassing prosecutor. If there is
00:08:37.860 evidence of a politicalization of Jack Smith's investigation, which by the way, is in the statute
00:08:44.660 of limitations now, because Jack Smith wasn't even appointed until late 2022, that falls in
00:08:49.280 the statute. That could become part of this larger conspiracy case, what we call the grand
00:08:54.740 conspiracy case of weaponization. So I think MSNBC and CNN are able to put two and two together
00:09:01.140 and realize, hey, Jack Smith was, had some, Jack Smith's investigation was launched by pressure from
00:09:06.680 the Biden White House and NARA. We know that from the National Archives. He raids Donald Trump's
00:09:11.340 home. That's in Florida. This looks like the wash, rinse, repeat cycle we've been talking about.
00:09:17.080 So they understand that all of these players are going to be brought before a grand jury now,
00:09:22.740 and panic has set in. And I find it hysterical to see MSNBC worrying about the legal bills of people
00:09:29.920 now, because they didn't seem to care about that the entire time Donald Trump's people were rolling
00:09:34.680 up tens of millions of dollars of legal bills for what we now know to be a bogus allegation called
00:09:39.760 Russia collusion and everything else that followed it.
00:09:41.660 So, um, the news is a criminal grand jury has been impaneled, uh, and is off to its official
00:09:51.120 business of reviewing, uh, reviewing evidence.
00:09:53.800 Yeah. I don't know if it's fully been impaneled yet, but people have been told that, uh, that
00:09:58.680 Pam Bondi has made the decision. Here's the prosecutor, the grand jury subpoenas are coming,
00:10:02.480 whether a grand jury gets impaneled on a Monday or it might take a Tuesday or Thursday when you meet
00:10:07.260 with them. Typically they meet Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursdays in the various districts, whether it's
00:10:11.780 impaneled yet for this purpose, we don't know, but the intention is to do that. And the parties that
00:10:16.300 own some of this early evidence have been informed of that.
00:10:19.000 John, make it smart. Once again, you did a great job this morning. What should we,
00:10:24.380 what should the audience be looking for?
00:10:26.580 I think a series of subpoenas starting to go out now and, uh, subpoenas will start with federal
00:10:31.360 agencies, intelligence agencies, and the FBI, uh, won't need a subpoena. They can turn it over,
00:10:36.000 but other agencies like the national security agency, the CIA, the director of national intelligence,
00:10:42.020 any whistleblowers who've come forward that might have possession of private information,
00:10:46.620 all of that is likely to be the next round. You'll see a blizzard of subpoenas to start the
00:10:52.080 gathering process of the evidence. And then once the physical evidence is in, you'll start to see
00:10:56.440 people be asked to appear before the grand jury. If they won't do so willingly, they'll also be
00:11:01.200 subpoenaed. So it's not unlike what you see in Congress, except that it happens in the secrecy of
00:11:05.420 a grand jury in a federal courthouse. The big mystery to me, and I haven't been able to get it confirmed
00:11:09.540 yet, is where is this grand jury going to be impaneled? Will it be in Florida? We just had a Miami
00:11:15.720 U.S. attorney finally confirmed, uh, people are very high on him. Does that, does it go to Florida?
00:11:21.180 Does it start in D.C. and transfer later? We don't know that level of information yet, but we're
00:11:25.600 working on it. John Solomon, I know you're getting ready for your show at six o'clock at the top of
00:11:31.800 the hour. Thank you so much. Where do people go to get all the news on Solomon Reports, Solomon
00:11:36.500 Investigates, Just the News, all, all, everything, sir. Yeah. Thank you. Just the News.com is all
00:11:42.300 one-stop shopping, and then Jay Solomon reports on all social media platforms. Thanks, Steve,
00:11:46.660 for having me on tapes. Great. Great. You got that lead story today. It lays it all out. So thank you
00:11:52.140 very much. We've pushed that out hard all day. Thank you, John Solomon. Thank you. Thank you.
00:11:56.840 Grace, Grace, if we can put that in the chats again and let the chat, uh, all the people in all the
00:12:02.680 various chats push that hard. Um, monumental day, folks. A, uh, Pam Bonney's announced they're getting ready
00:12:10.720 for a grand jury, hopefully in panel tomorrow, but, uh, the wheels are turning and I think they're
00:12:15.320 turning, uh, rapidly. Christina Bob, is she up? Christina Bob is not up. Okay. Um, I want to
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00:16:57.160 And I thank them so much for making this journey. You are on the right side of history.
00:17:05.200 And you're not alone. We are in solidarity with each and every one of you and your colleagues
00:17:10.220 in another state hosted by my great friend, J.B. Pritzker, who welcome you as well. As I said,
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00:17:38.600 are off. And I say, bring it on.
00:17:40.840 Aside from voters here, if this Republican plan goes through.
00:17:44.820 Well, Democrats will say unequivocally that it is unjust, that it draws lines in a way that are not
00:17:55.880 consistent with the census, that is not consistent with how redistricting has always been done in
00:18:03.020 Texas. And so they say that voters lose, that this is a patently political effort. And that is against
00:18:10.320 what democracy is about, what America is about. And that is the reason they say they are taking
00:18:15.780 such a strong effort, leaving their homes, leaving their families, leaving, in some cases,
00:18:21.700 their jobs in the private sector to come here to Illinois for at least the next couple of weeks.
00:18:27.880 Government, as you can see, has become much, much, much more polarized as a result of these
00:18:32.200 gerrymandered seats becoming more prevalent. But that's not the time to talk about that now.
00:18:37.120 Eric Holder was right in trying to make this a nonpartisan issue. But not when you have one side
00:18:42.040 that's doing everything possible to try to game the system. If one side is doing it, as the
00:18:46.860 Republicans are in Texas, Democrats have to follow suit. They have to take the gloves off. They have
00:18:51.260 to save our democracy. This is truly them understanding that they cannot win the elections
00:18:55.880 next year. The president's numbers are in the tank. Their numbers are in the tank. Nobody supports
00:19:00.300 Republican policies right now. They're doing this because they can't win, so they have to cheat.
00:19:04.680 And if they want to cheat, then Democrats have to play them, meet them on the field where they are.
00:19:10.740 Okay, just issued moments ago, we're going to get the, we're going to cut it right now.
00:19:14.480 Governor Abbott orders Texas Department of Public Safety to arrest delinquent House Democrats.
00:19:20.880 Dateline Austin, Texas. Governor Greg Abbott today ordered the arrest of delinquent Texas House
00:19:26.220 Democrats. Quote, Texas House Democrats abandoned their duty to Texas, said the governor, by fleeing the
00:19:31.820 state. Texas House Democrats are holding hostage critical legislation to aid flood victims and
00:19:36.680 advance property tax relief. There are consequences for dereliction of duty. Speaker Dustin Burroughs
00:19:44.040 just issued a call of the Texas House and issued warrants to compel members to return to the
00:19:48.060 chamber to ensure compliance. I ordered the Texas Department of Public Safety to locate,
00:19:53.140 arrest, and return to the House chamber. Any member has abandoned their duty to Texans.
00:19:57.500 The order will remain in effect until all missing Democrat House members are accounted for and
00:20:02.840 brought to the Texas Capitol. We now bring in Brian Harrison, who's been one of the leaders
00:20:07.020 of this movement to make it happen. Pretty short session today, Brian, but I think we're getting
00:20:12.500 some action. People all around. Governor Hochul's come in, said New York is going to do this.
00:20:17.800 Newsom said California is going to do this. MSNBC. I don't know. Their head's blowing up for two
00:20:23.000 reasons. Number one, this down in Texas in the House and also a grand jury, the indication a grand
00:20:30.000 jury is being set up even as we speak, a criminal grand jury on the seditious conspiracy against the
00:20:35.480 president of the United States. In Texas, can you give us an update, sir? Yeah, we're seeing a lot of
00:20:42.260 bold action and rhetoric, which I guess is better than not bold action or rhetoric. But what I care
00:20:48.240 about is action. What the voters of Texas deserve is bold results. And here's the reality. For all of
00:20:55.500 the bluster about the call of the House, that's what you're referring to. Nobody knows that term,
00:21:00.440 so people don't use it. It's a motion called a call of the House. That's what authorizes the doors
00:21:05.240 to be locked. That's what authorizes these civil arrest warrants to be signed. And okay, that's fine.
00:21:12.020 I voted for it. But here's the reality. If Texas Republicans were serious about this redistricting
00:21:17.220 effort, they would have locked the doors, I don't know, before the Democrats fled the state,
00:21:24.280 which would have been, you know, they could have done it yesterday as the Democrats were fleeing. Or,
00:21:27.960 more appropriately, just four days ago, we had the maps on the floor. We had the Democrats on the
00:21:32.460 floor. We had the quorum. That would have been a time to do a call of the House and say we're going
00:21:37.160 to maintain the quorum. So unfortunately, and I hate to prepare the posse for this, just prepare for a lot
00:21:43.120 of performative, bad kabuki theater. We didn't even, in terms of tangible results, I mean,
00:21:48.780 they didn't even take away their parking spots today. Okay. So like, yeah, the arrests are good.
00:21:53.840 They're proper in this instance. But the reality is the Democrats are fighting much more aggressively
00:21:59.880 like the future, like they understand the stakes, which is the future of this great Republic.
00:22:04.580 They're fighting much more aggressively than elected Republicans in Texas. So I want bold action.
00:22:08.300 I want every option to be explored right now to bring them back, extricate them, arrest them,
00:22:11.860 bring them back here. Your recommendations to the governor then to ratchet it up tonight,
00:22:17.560 since they've gone through kind of, you know, moment by moment, here's what they got to do
00:22:20.820 to make it proper, to ratchet this up to the level that the Democrats hiding in Illinois
00:22:25.880 have taken it. What would be your recommendations to Attorney General Paxton, Lieutenant Governor,
00:22:32.600 and the governor, sir? Well, I'd be doing everything to explore it. And I know there's lawyers
00:22:38.240 on both sides of this issue. But I mean, the governor has, you know, strongly worded letter
00:22:42.160 last night, which basically said he'll have the attorney general ask the courts if we can,
00:22:46.180 you know, declare a vacancy. I'd be wanting to push the bounds of this and make sure that there's
00:22:51.960 no actual avenue for him to make this declaration himself. I know lawyers are looking into that,
00:22:55.940 but like, let's, let's move about this. And then also, I mean, the speaker, the governor,
00:23:00.780 I mean, these Democrats could be told if you get to keep your seat, which you shouldn't,
00:23:05.080 you should be vacated. If there's a bill that's got your name on it, it's never going to move as
00:23:10.060 long as I'm the governor. It's never going to move as long as I'm the speaker. The staff should
00:23:13.560 be stripped from them. Their budget should be stripped from them. Actual actions that would
00:23:18.220 make them think twice about staying away for any extended period. But I just, I can't make the point
00:23:23.560 enough. The time for bold action has come and gone. We need to pursue bold action going forward.
00:23:30.740 But there was all the tools available to stop this. And if I were the White House,
00:23:34.560 the White House has every reason to be furious about this. Republican voters in Texas have every
00:23:38.680 reason to be furious about this because it wasn't a surprise. I mean, Steve, how many times have you
00:23:43.240 and I been on the air for the last week or so talking about this in advance of them fleeing the
00:23:48.620 state? So elected Republicans in Texas, this is just a catastrophic failure of leadership.
00:23:53.820 We have, by the way, I assume that Abbott's going to continue to call special sessions until he gets
00:24:02.140 these guys back and makes this happen. Now, this is an international, this is an international event.
00:24:07.060 You would agree that this is going to happen. It's probably going to be quite tough for the next
00:24:12.440 couple of weeks, but this, this has to happen. You can't back down from this. Can you?
00:24:16.720 No, no, absolutely not. No, the governor should call a special session every day until this is
00:24:21.200 finished. And if that gets us, if that's all the way into next year, if that's into the primaries
00:24:24.980 in March through the general and the elections, I don't care. Whatever it takes, we have to do this.
00:24:30.220 I heard the clip that you guys were playing before you brought me on, these Democrats
00:24:32.940 screaming and crowing. It's all the selective fake faux outrage about, oh, Texas is cheating.
00:24:39.480 So then, you know, you mentioned California and New York, they're going to step up and counter this.
00:24:44.800 What are we talking about? Where were all these Democrats? I've got the numbers right here.
00:24:47.580 I mean, right now in the state of California, Republicans get 40% of the vote, but the California
00:24:52.520 General Assembly gives Republicans 17% of the congressional delegation. Let's look at New
00:24:57.880 York. 42% of the vote in New York is Republican. How many Republican seats do they get in Congress?
00:25:02.900 26.9%. Let's talk about Illinois, where the Republicans get 40%. By the way, where the Democrats
00:25:09.420 are hanging out behind Governor Pritzker. Governor Pritzker knows that his voters, Republicans,
00:25:14.400 make up 45% of the vote in Illinois, but Governor Pritzker only gives Republicans 15% of the
00:25:21.960 congressional seats in the state of Illinois. So the reality is Democrats have been gerrymandering
00:25:27.480 the hell out of their districts for the last 10 years and at a much more aggressive rate than
00:25:33.400 Republican states have. So quite frankly, Texas is behind the curve and other Republican states need
00:25:38.860 to be fighting as aggressively as the Democrats are. This is lawful. It's constitutional under both
00:25:43.540 the federal and our state constitution. And the Supreme Court has said we can undertake
00:25:48.140 redistricting efforts like this. The state of Texas needs to get this done. I don't care how long it
00:25:52.180 takes. We're going to get Attorney General Pax on here, but not tonight, tomorrow morning. I have a
00:25:58.160 technical question. Can the Department of Public Safety, can the Texas Rangers actually go to Illinois
00:26:03.480 and bring these Texans back? Is that within the realm of possibility? It is a legal question that I
00:26:11.100 think people are fighting about as we speak, but even the liberal New York Times made reference to
00:26:15.440 the possibility that the governor may have authority to work with federal law enforcement partners to
00:26:19.980 undertake an arrest and an extradition. But the fact that we're in this problem, again, every question
00:26:25.200 you're talking about, I hate to keep going back to it, but this is why the posse needs to not let up the
00:26:31.540 pressure on the governor, lieutenant governor, and speaker, because we should never have been in this
00:26:36.160 situation in the first place. Because within the borders of the state of Texas, there's no question
00:26:40.520 whatsoever. They should have been arrested before they were allowed to leave the border.
00:26:44.900 And this is why the posse will continue. We don't understand if you take pressure off,
00:26:48.560 they'll go back to our ways. We got about a minute for this. We had a nine-minute clip. We had a nine-minute
00:26:53.880 clip of Brian Harrison, I guess your maiden voyage, at least on this topic on CNN. And the host was
00:27:00.400 absolutely in shock. Tell me about, give me a minute on your trip to CNN today and an absolute
00:27:06.380 beatdown of this host. Were they up to speed on the subject matter, sir? No, I actually really
00:27:13.020 enjoyed my time. I have been on CNN before, but yeah, first time on this topic. You would have
00:27:18.040 thought that the state of Texas was the first state to ever, ever contemplate partisan politics
00:27:24.640 when drawing their maps. And he's like, you know, Governor Pritzker, you know, holding him out
00:27:29.700 as this, like, you know, bastion of wisdom and sage governance. And how dare the state of Texas be
00:27:34.340 undergoing this stuff? And I was like, well, did you ask CNN, and actually held it up, let me see if
00:27:39.000 I've got it here. I was like, did CNN have Governor Pritzker on and scream and yell at them when they
00:27:43.680 undertook maybe the most gerrymandered map in all of the country? Look at this pinky-sized district that
00:27:50.000 runs all the way east to west in Illinois. That's the only thing Governor Pritzker is good
00:27:55.020 for is how do you, he's got a PhD in gerrymandering, but CNN didn't want to, didn't want to be
00:27:59.200 confronted with those types of facts. 14 to 3, I think, the delegation. Brian, what's your
00:28:05.100 social media? People are following you. Where do they go? At Brian E. Harrison on X, on X,
00:28:10.860 at Brian E. Harrison. Just so appreciative of you and the posse. Keep the pressure up. We've got
00:28:17.840 to get these maps voted on. We've got to save America. Thank you, sir. Short break.
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00:29:37.300 President's most persistent targets, former special counsel Jack Smith, who brought multiple
00:29:41.960 criminal indictments against then-candidate Trump, is now under investigation for alleged violations of
00:29:47.980 the Hatch Act. That law keeps federal workers from using their jobs in government to engage in political
00:29:53.880 activity. What's at stake here for Jack Smith? Well, at this stage, probably not much. But as Lisa points
00:30:01.780 out, once you begin investigating somebody, if you unearth any sort of evidence that can morph into a
00:30:07.140 different kind of investigation, a civil case or a criminal case, that puts great exposure on the
00:30:12.040 person who is the target. It is absolute and utter nonsense to suggest that Jack Smith was violating
00:30:17.620 the Hatch Act when he was investigating Donald Trump. When you investigate political people,
00:30:22.220 your work is going to become-
00:30:25.160 To see these people and MSNBC squirm, they should all be indicted as accessories before the fact to the crimes.
00:30:37.320 It's much more than the Hatch Act, much more than the Hatch Act.
00:30:40.440 Christina Bob joins us now.
00:30:42.360 So now we know it's been leaked.
00:30:45.440 Coming out of the Justice Department, they're set up the former, not just the strike force,
00:30:49.900 but now they're setting up the entire apparatus.
00:30:51.800 They're getting ready to impenet a grand jury, a criminal grand jury.
00:30:55.680 We don't know the part of the country it is, but I think most people can guess it's probably somewhere in South Florida.
00:31:02.240 This is really starting to ramp up and be quite serious.
00:31:05.580 Christina Bob, you were inside the ropes for a lot of this.
00:31:08.940 I don't want to give away anything that could be used in testimony later, but it's got to be a pretty good day for you, ma'am, right?
00:31:15.520 Oh, I am so happy.
00:31:17.520 I am so, so happy.
00:31:18.720 I was getting ready to come on your show and explain why they needed to open a grand jury
00:31:23.200 and why it was so important that they moved quickly on this.
00:31:26.160 And before I could even come on, it had already happened.
00:31:29.220 So, yes, this is very much needed.
00:31:32.100 I had looked at the timeline before to see when Jack Smith indicted Donald Trump the first time that was in Miami in 2023.
00:31:39.180 It was June of 2023, and he didn't even come close to finishing his case.
00:31:43.620 I hope that Pam Bondi and Cash Patel have their case wired pretty tight, knowing both of them.
00:31:49.680 I suspect they probably do.
00:31:51.180 And they need to move this along because they could run out of time.
00:31:54.540 So let's go.
00:31:55.660 Yeah, let's give them some inside baseball.
00:31:58.880 After John Solomon was on today, John's had a pretty good track record of called shots.
00:32:04.520 Christina and I talked, and she was going to come on and open the show and kind of, hey, we've got to expedite this.
00:32:10.980 And in the interim is actually the leak came out that something's happening.
00:32:14.000 Go back to that time because what they try to do of everything else is humiliate the president and make such a big deal about this.
00:32:21.980 You and I talked about this so many times of the war and everything that happened.
00:32:25.880 It was no need to even do this.
00:32:27.840 But part of this was a humiliation for the president at the time and to make sure this was another throwing some dirt on his grave to ensure that he would never come back as president of the United States.
00:32:40.300 Ma'am, your thoughts?
00:32:41.720 A hundred percent.
00:32:42.680 They wanted to make sure that nobody could challenge their political power because at that time, Democrats were a lot more popular than they are now.
00:32:51.040 And Donald Trump really was the only one that could challenge them, and he was doing it quite successfully.
00:32:56.160 And so they were trying to take him out.
00:32:57.900 But one of the things that I think is so important about this and what I hit on in my book is that they came after us, too.
00:33:04.960 And, Steve, you know it better than most of us.
00:33:07.340 But they came after staffers who just happened to be working for the president.
00:33:10.980 And they really went after ordinary, everyday Americans who were actually doing good work to help Donald Trump accomplish what he wanted to accomplish.
00:33:19.080 And the Democrats didn't like it.
00:33:20.520 So, yes, this is a great day for, you know, to have some sort of revenge for Donald Trump.
00:33:27.560 But it's not really about that.
00:33:29.020 It's about the rest of us and our ability to speak freely and support the candidates that we want to support and do the work that we want to do.
00:33:35.540 So this is a good day for freedom.
00:33:37.440 Now, this is what the lawyer that's on, the attorney that's on MSNBC all the time, she's sitting there whining, oh, this is terrible.
00:33:47.220 You've got to go get lawyers.
00:33:48.300 You're running up a huge cost.
00:33:49.200 They put people nearly in bankruptcy.
00:33:51.020 You're absolutely correct.
00:33:52.360 They came after staffers.
00:33:53.500 They came after secondary players in back of President Trump.
00:33:57.160 President Trump, first off, ran up, I think, over $100 million of legal.
00:34:01.100 But many people around him, they tried to put in bankruptcy.
00:34:05.240 They had no feeling whatsoever of crushing people, using the power of the state to destroy people.
00:34:10.260 And now they're whining because they're going to be held accountable for their weaponizing the government apparatus, ma'am.
00:34:20.460 Totally.
00:34:21.320 I had done nothing other than report the truth as a reporter when I was with One American News and then support the president as an attorney when I worked with him as a staff attorney.
00:34:30.040 And, I mean, if you Google me, you've got to go 100 pages deep before you find a true article.
00:34:34.160 They used what the government was doing as a way to defame their political opponent because, of course, if the government says something is so, then it's not defamation, right?
00:34:44.220 And so they make these accusations, criminal charges, throw people like you and Peter Navarro in prison, try to do it to me and my colleagues.
00:34:52.960 But it's hugely defamatory, and it ruins lives, and it has to stop.
00:34:58.620 It absolutely has to stop.
00:34:59.700 And the only way that it stops is if they go to jail.
00:35:02.180 And so I cannot be more happy.
00:35:05.180 I can't be happier about the way that this appears to be playing out in good time.
00:35:11.640 Let's get the – from Dan Fluitt, my producing partner, let's get the cover of your book.
00:35:16.380 It's absolutely amazing.
00:35:18.140 The book itself is pretty darn good, but this cover is incredible.
00:35:22.160 Talk to me about the book, about what's in the book.
00:35:26.080 That's people – if they want to get up to speed on what's happening now, this is one of the books to get, correct?
00:35:30.460 Yeah, 100 percent.
00:35:31.480 I mean, President Trump himself did the forward to it, which I'm so excited about.
00:35:35.620 And it is just the play-by-play of everything that went down between our conversation – my conversations – with the president's defense attorney, as well as the DOJ and the FBI.
00:35:47.240 And it's my story.
00:35:48.860 I mean, I walk the reader through everything that I experienced as his staff attorney, as the custodian of records.
00:35:53.800 I signed the infamous certification at this point, as well as the warrant.
00:35:57.780 And I take you through the whole thing.
00:35:59.300 And it really lifts the cover off of the corruption within the Department of Justice, because everybody knows the story that the media has been telling.
00:36:07.460 And then when you see what actually happened, it just doesn't match.
00:36:10.800 And so I'm excited for people to read it.
00:36:13.280 And just – your mind will be blown at how different the story actually is from what the media told you for years.
00:36:22.420 Since they were making it up, you made a point about the timing.
00:36:27.440 It took Jack Smith because he didn't really have anything, so they had to kind of scramble.
00:36:30.640 We have all this evidence.
00:36:33.000 Cash has been able to put this together.
00:36:35.200 I think it's incumbent upon Pam, but obviously you've got to be professional.
00:36:38.160 You want to make sure these indictments withstand the pressure that's going to come on because, folks, we're starting into one of the most important legal situations in the history of the country, right?
00:36:53.080 President Trump has already said he thinks it's the most – the biggest political crime in the country's history.
00:36:59.060 I think I would agree with that, right?
00:37:00.720 Maybe Kennedy's assassination, which I think is a political crime, would top it.
00:37:05.440 But in the history of this republic, pretty damn high.
00:37:08.840 The seriousness – this is going to get global.
00:37:10.980 Things that went on years ago are going to be put under a microscope.
00:37:14.960 But I agree with you.
00:37:16.060 I think it is very important for Pam's – whoever she selects here as – and it looks like it may actually be someone in justice or an existing U.S. attorney since they can get around the confirmation process and get on with it right now.
00:37:33.580 If they have somebody in main justice or somebody – so I think it's incumbent upon them, Christina, to move with alacrity.
00:37:40.140 Would you agree?
00:37:41.720 A hundred percent.
00:37:42.600 And, of course, I would not want to time a criminal case based on an election.
00:37:48.480 You never want to do that.
00:37:49.760 We were screaming about it when they were doing it to Donald Trump.
00:37:52.140 That's not the way the criminal justice system is supposed to work.
00:37:55.660 That being said, I also think it would be foolish for us to ignore that if this is not completed or at least not completely exposed to where we have reality again, if they get a chance to get out of this through doing some sort of craziness in the next election, they will.
00:38:11.740 They've done it before.
00:38:13.160 So let's not give them that opportunity.
00:38:15.420 So you have to hold both in tension.
00:38:17.480 Make sure that you're working through the criminal justice system appropriately, legally, and in a way that does protect the accused.
00:38:24.260 Their rights need to be protected.
00:38:25.840 But that said, we can't pretend like there isn't this looming opportunity for them to get out of it if they play games with our election.
00:38:34.200 Christina, Bob, social media so people can keep up to speed with you.
00:38:38.500 And plus, where do they go to get this amazing book?
00:38:41.660 Yes, the book's available on Amazon.
00:38:43.520 It comes out September 9th, and you can find me at Christina underscore Bob, B-O-B-B.
00:38:50.720 Thank you, ma'am.
00:38:51.520 I appreciate you.
00:38:52.980 Christina, Bob.
00:38:55.160 Talk about serendipity.
00:38:56.480 We talked after the show this morning because of what John Solomon said about getting Christina on, and she was going to make the case of how we had to move and expedite this.
00:39:04.200 And guess what?
00:39:05.040 It got expedited with people working very hard, as they are.
00:39:09.560 Is EJ, do I have EJ yet?
00:39:11.400 We're tracking him down.
00:39:12.100 Okay, there's so much going on.
00:39:14.060 Let me just go back for a reset.
00:39:15.680 Number one, John Solomon.
00:39:17.160 John Solomon will be on 6 o'clock tonight.
00:39:19.440 He'll be going into action in some more details.
00:39:22.900 There has been a leak coming out of the Justice Department.
00:39:25.260 It looks like a grand jury, criminal grand jury, is being put together.
00:39:29.840 It looks like they've designated the strike forces, now designated, I think, some prosecutors to lead this.
00:39:34.380 I think they've been a part of the country.
00:39:37.420 I am, I don't have any inside information on this, but I would assume to the degree possible, this will probably be in South Florida, since some of the activity took place there.
00:39:48.520 They may start, as you know, many of these grand juries, they start with one thing and then they build over time.
00:39:54.120 I think the MAGA movement, and particularly the war and posse, should take this as a major, major inflection point about how serious this is getting.
00:40:03.460 And Brennan and Clapper and Hayden and all of them have known, from the Encomi, from the McCabe, all of that crowd,
00:40:09.780 from the very beginning, that the American people are going to, in their righteous indignation, demand accountability here for what went on.
00:40:19.320 And what it was, was a coup against an individual who won the presidency.
00:40:24.740 I was there and saw it up close and personal.
00:40:27.460 This thing is egregious.
00:40:28.560 And finally, after years, and this talks about the hard work this is done with the precinct strategy, with everything,
00:40:34.700 the canvassing and all of it it took to be the infrastructure and the backbone of President Trump's comeback.
00:40:42.120 This is one of the reasons President Trump came back, because he understood that if you do not get into and adjudicate this in an official capacity,
00:40:50.760 then you've lost this country.
00:40:52.840 We can never let this happen again.
00:40:54.600 And you have to clean out all of the scum in the deep state and deconstruct the deep state so it never can happen again.
00:41:03.300 This is very important.
00:41:04.940 At the same time, this audience gets a hat tip because the Bush faction down in Texas did not want to deal with this.
00:41:11.980 Quite frankly, they're not that – they would love, given everything, the tax cuts or anything like that,
00:41:17.120 if Trump gets impeached starting at 27, they like that.
00:41:21.460 They welcome that.
00:41:22.200 They didn't want to do this redistricting.
00:41:24.740 Although, for the good of the citizens of Texas, you have to do it because there's been huge demographic shifts within the state.
00:41:31.700 They didn't want to lift a hand to do this.
00:41:33.920 This was this audience putting stink eye on them and saying, hey, we're going to expose you unless you get on with it.
00:41:39.440 Today, another huge event that the Texas governor is now in the business of issuing official documents about the arrest of this.
00:41:48.760 You heard Harrison.
00:41:49.720 They're in discussion with federal agents, which I have advocated for many, many days now,
00:41:54.560 that why are they talking to federal agents about guys just can't scamper and leave their duty station,
00:42:01.920 particularly when you have a situation there about the flooding, situations about property tax, so many other issues,
00:42:07.780 just going to leave their elected representatives.
00:42:10.780 One, in addition to vacate the chair, hell, send the Texas Rangers out or notify federal authorities and round them up and bring them back.
00:42:17.060 Another huge win for the Warren Posse and action is going to be taken.
00:42:22.620 And as Brian Harrison said, whether they have to go another special session, another special session, this is going to get done.
00:42:29.580 You're going to get five seats redistricted in the state of Texas, and that is enormous.
00:42:34.320 When you talk about the margins here in the House, that is enormous, and Hakeem Jeffries understands.
00:42:38.420 That with that, if we put our shoulder to the wheel, it's going to be very, very difficult,
00:42:42.960 if not impossible, for Hakeem Jeffries to become Speaker of the House.
00:42:47.300 In addition, something we've argued on this show month after month after month in the Biden regime,
00:42:53.920 when we have E.J. and Tony on here, that the Bureau of Labor Statistics algorithms are wrong, their numbers are wrong.
00:42:59.660 We said this for you.
00:43:00.540 This just wasn't something that came up last week.
00:43:02.380 It was most egregious for the 250,000 job change, I think, to make President Trump look bad in the face of all the terror starting to kick in.
00:43:13.900 And we advocated that E.J. came on here, and voila, the head of Bureau of Labor Statistics is gone.
00:43:21.940 We're trying to get E.J. and Tony to join us.
00:43:23.720 Kurt Mills is going to join us.
00:43:25.420 Big, big, big news coming out of the Middle East.
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00:49:02.760 Mike Lindell, thank you, brother.
00:49:05.140 Appreciate you.
00:49:05.920 See you tomorrow morning.
00:49:06.880 Thanks, Steve.
00:49:07.540 These specials are for the war and posse.
00:49:09.520 Let's take advantage of them.
00:49:10.540 All the hard work you're doing.
00:49:11.920 I have a cold open for EJ and Tony.
00:49:14.440 Let's go ahead and let it rip.
00:49:15.620 I'm going to bring EJ in.
00:49:16.500 To control information, echo an authoritarian playbook.
00:49:26.620 And in it, you write in part, quote, an old rule in Washington holds that you were entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
00:49:36.160 President Trump seems determined to prove that wrong.
00:49:39.320 Don't like an intelligent report that contradicts your view?
00:49:43.020 Go after the analysts.
00:49:44.340 Don't like cost estimates for your tax plan?
00:49:47.920 Invent your own.
00:49:49.180 Don't like a predecessor's climate policies?
00:49:51.940 Scrub government websites of underlying data.
00:49:54.980 Don't like a museum exhibit that cites your impeachment?
00:49:59.400 Delete any mention of them.
00:50:01.580 Mr. Trump's war on facts reached new heights on Friday when he angrily fired the Labor Department official in charge of compiling statistics on employment in America because he didn't like the latest jobs report showing that the economy isn't doing as well as he claims it is.
00:50:21.900 The message, however, was unmistakable.
00:50:25.300 Government officials who deal in data now fear they have to toe the line or risk losing their jobs.
00:50:33.000 Okay, EJ, you've been on here every month, I think, virtually for four years going through this.
00:50:43.040 They've made this, oh, this is trying to suppress data.
00:50:45.360 It's the exact opposite.
00:50:46.920 You've been going through saying, hey, these models, something's got to be wrong because they would have a high number, and then they'd go back the next month, and you'd have like two or three months back.
00:50:56.220 They'd be taking them down more and more and more, and you had said that this is getting outrageous.
00:51:00.980 You've got a minute here.
00:51:01.760 I'm going to hold you through the break.
00:51:03.440 Is Morning Joe totally incorrect about their analysis of what's actually happening, sir?
00:51:08.560 Well, of course, Steve, absolutely.
00:51:10.320 Like they are pretty much every morning, quite frankly.
00:51:13.000 What Trump is doing here, I think, is not an attempt to fiddle with the numbers, but rather to ensure their accuracy in the same way that when he talks about removing Powell,
00:51:24.940 that's not to jeopardize Fed independents, that's to try to preserve Fed independents,
00:51:29.860 because I think it's pretty clear at this point that Jerome Powell is not acting according to the data.
00:51:35.480 He is not data dependent.
00:51:36.820 He is not politically independent.
00:51:38.960 And so, again, removing him would be not an attack on Fed independents, but an attempt to preserve it.
00:51:44.100 In the same way, I think it is long past time you get somebody in to really clean up the BLS and to allow all of the good folks there to really do good work again and to produce good, accurate numbers.
00:52:00.180 That's what we want at the end of the day.
00:52:01.700 We just want the numbers to be accurate, full stop.
00:52:04.840 E.J., hang on for one second.
00:52:08.400 E.J.
00:52:08.680 Antonio is going to come back at 6.
00:52:10.100 Breaking news.
00:52:12.560 This FEMA requirement about Israel has been dropped.
00:52:15.780 The White House just announced Natalie Winters is going to join us briefly at 6 to announce that.
00:52:20.660 Also, President Bolsonaro has just been placed under full house arrest by that demonic judge down in Brazil.
00:52:28.200 We're going to have all of this and much more when we return in the warm in just a moment.
00:52:33.820 We're going to leave you with the right stuff.
00:52:34.960 E.J.
00:52:35.300 and Tony, Kurt Mills, Sam Faddis, much more next.
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