Bannon's War Room - August 06, 2025


Episode 4686: 80th Anniversary Of The Bombing Of Hiroshima


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

155.24448

Word Count

8,469

Sentence Count

707

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

16


Summary

This episode is brought to you by Survival, a Parcast Original. On August 6th, 1945, a massive nuclear bomb is dropped on the city of Hiroshima, Japan. It was the first atomic bomb to ever be exploded, and it changed the course of history.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 If the Japanese insist on continuing resistance beyond the point of reason, their country will
00:00:06.840 suffer the same destruction as Germany. Our blows will destroy their whole modern industrial plant
00:00:13.400 and organization, which they have built up during the past century, and which they are now devoting
00:00:19.800 to a hopeless cause. We have no desire or intention to destroy or enslave the Japanese people,
00:00:28.320 but only surrender can prevent the kind of ruin which they have seen come to Germany as a result
00:00:36.480 of continued, useless resistance. President Truman was at Potsdam, awaiting the results of the test
00:00:44.720 so that the Allies could plan their attack on Japan, and hoping that a successful test would
00:00:49.780 give him some leverage over the increasingly grasping Stalin. Scientists were working with
00:00:55.420 components and instruments delivered just barely in time. It was ready or not. They had to commit
00:01:01.900 themselves and their experiments to the test. July 13th, they began the final assembly. The bomb was
00:01:09.800 hooked up to a crane which would lift it to the tower. July 14th, finally the ride to the top. Cables,
00:01:16.660 detonators, informer, initiator hookup. July 15th, final dry runs, tension, everything ready. July 16th,
00:01:28.540 a rainstorm with spectacular lightning delayed the test from 2 a.m. to 529 a.m. just before dawn.
00:01:36.520 Dignitaries from the scientific world watched from the hills. Participants and watchers were instructed
00:01:42.320 to lie on the ground facing away from the tower. Only after the initial flash could they look at the
00:01:48.700 developing fireball through welder's goggles. A flare in the sky signaled the final countdown.
00:01:54.320 7, Mondays, 14, 15, physics, 7, 8, 7, 8, 7, and 500.
00:02:24.320 Four, three, two, one.
00:02:54.320 The Flash was later calculated to be brighter than a thousand suns.
00:03:24.300 Miles away, a young girl, blind from birth, saw the Flash.
00:03:29.700 Men at the site felt the heat of a desert sun.
00:03:33.180 Then came the shockwave.
00:03:35.300 Two G.I.s at the command center stood up in their excitement at seeing the boiling cloud and were knocked to the ground.
00:03:41.940 The roar followed, a cascading thunderclap that rolled and boomed out across the desert.
00:03:47.420 July 28, 1945.
00:03:50.380 In Tokyo, an emergency meeting at the Japanese cabinet is summoned.
00:03:54.540 To consider allied demands for immediate, unconditional surrender.
00:03:59.320 Their decision?
00:04:00.660 Mokusatsu.
00:04:02.440 Answer only with silence.
00:04:06.600 August 1st.
00:04:08.460 General Curtis LeMay outlines plans for the first atomic bomb raid.
00:04:12.220 Because Hiroshima has no reported prisoner of war camps, it becomes primary target.
00:04:20.280 The date for the raid is set.
00:04:22.200 August the 6th.
00:04:26.040 On the island of Tinian, it is Sunday, August the 5th.
00:04:29.220 And a single B-29 is brought under armed guard to an isolated corner of Northfield.
00:04:36.600 Sleek, stripped of all but essential equipment, a million-dollar plane is assigned to carry a two-billion-dollar cargo.
00:04:44.540 Colonel Tibbetts, in honor of his mother, has named his plane the Enola Gaye.
00:04:49.840 The prime concern on this day is the possibility that the Enola Gaye may crash on take-off and blow up all of Tinian.
00:04:59.980 It is decided that the dangerous job of arming the bomb will be done after the plane is up.
00:05:05.460 Even now, no one on Tinian is allowed to see the bomb.
00:05:14.380 Late in the afternoon, the squadron is given a final briefing.
00:05:18.900 Weather planes, they learn, will precede them to the target cities.
00:05:23.340 If the primary city, Hiroshima, is overcast, they will take the one that is open, either Kokura or Nagasaki.
00:05:30.000 The take-off will be dangerous, because the weight of their payload is over 10,000 pounds.
00:05:36.360 And now they learn, too, its full potential.
00:05:39.840 It's not a 1,000-pounder. It's not a 10-ton blockbuster.
00:05:43.740 This bomb has a strength of 20,000 tons of TNT.
00:05:47.700 Steaming toward home at this moment, Harry Truman knows the decision is irrevocable.
00:05:53.640 The wheels have gone full turn.
00:05:55.440 In the Pentagon, General Groves and his staff remain overnight, beginning the long wait.
00:06:04.980 2,000 miles away, in Los Alamos, Robert Oppenheimer also waits.
00:06:20.100 2.15 a.m., August 6th.
00:06:22.440 For 12 men, Colonel Tibbetts, the crew of the Enola Gay, and the Navy captain who will arm the bomb, William Parsons,
00:06:33.040 the last moments pass with bewildering speed.
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00:07:12.520 Oh, my God.
00:07:42.520 The Enola Gay arrives at 8.11 a.m. on time, on target.
00:08:12.520 The Enola Gay arrives at 8.11 a.m. on time, on target.
00:08:42.500 The Enola Gay arrives at 8.11 a.m. on time, on target.
00:09:12.480 The Enola Gay arrives at 8.11 a.m. on time, on target.
00:09:18.480 The Enola Gay arrives at 8.11 a.m. on target.
00:09:23.480 a warning tone sounds in the plane.
00:09:27.000 In 10 seconds, the world will shake.
00:09:53.480 In 10 seconds, the world will shake.
00:10:23.480 In 10 seconds, the world will shake.
00:10:53.480 In 10 seconds, the world will shake.
00:11:00.480 Wednesday, 6 August in the year of our Lord, 2025, the 80th anniversary of one of the most
00:11:07.380 important days in the history of mankind.
00:11:10.220 The first dropping of an atomic weapon or nuclear weapon.
00:11:16.620 I have become death destroyer of worlds.
00:11:19.160 That's from Hindu, the Gita, Vishnu.
00:11:22.980 Said by Oppenheimer at the very moment in the Trinity Project when he knew the bomb would
00:11:27.500 actually work.
00:11:28.120 More than ever, this audience, since you're the adults in the room, right, and are the
00:11:35.780 drivers of this populist nationalist revolution throughout the world to make sure that folks
00:11:42.440 with common sense, the ordinary man and woman actually caused the shots and we don't get
00:11:48.220 into any more, dragged into any more conflicts like the Second World War.
00:11:52.040 Right there, and General LeMay, who had been firebombing Tokyo and the major cities of Japan.
00:12:00.400 Because MacArthur and Nimitz's plan for the invasion of Japan, which they were anticipating and preparing for,
00:12:09.120 was a four million man invasion of the island over time and one million American casualties.
00:12:17.260 And of course, within the next couple of days, the Japanese surrendered.
00:12:23.260 I might add, it took two nuclear weapons, right, in their belief that there were more to come.
00:12:29.700 I want to bring in Cleo Pascal, Dr. Bradley Thayer.
00:12:34.160 Cleo, you just came back from the historic launch spot of the Onola Gay.
00:12:40.180 Give us your assessment of Tinian, the people, how important this date is in world history, ma'am.
00:12:47.720 It's a very important, obviously, an emotional date for the people of Tinian.
00:12:52.480 And there's a delegation from the Marianas in Hiroshima today.
00:12:57.740 It's worth maybe going back to understand the geography of Tinian and why this was so important.
00:13:05.240 This part of the world belonged to Japan.
00:13:07.920 Tinian was part of Japan from 1914 until the Marines came through in 1944.
00:13:12.540 You can see Saipan from Tinian.
00:13:14.160 They were part of the same battle.
00:13:15.960 And it took about 100,000 American lives to get across the Pacific to be in a position to be able to claim Tinian from where the B-29s were in range of Tokyo.
00:13:28.140 And obviously, of Hiroshima, and you can take off from there.
00:13:31.340 But we saw the signs coming.
00:13:33.360 In 1933, there was the special great exercise, an 86-day exercise run by Imperial Japan.
00:13:41.720 The emperor came on to Tinian and on to Saipan where they built a runway.
00:13:49.380 And that was the launch of it all.
00:13:50.680 Cleo, can you hang over a second?
00:13:55.360 We're a whole due break.
00:13:56.160 I got Dr. Bradley Thayer.
00:13:57.460 I got Cleo Pascal.
00:13:58.280 We're going to talk about the region, the weapon, the event, the outcome, and the meaning of it today,
00:14:05.620 particularly when we are repositioning ballistic missile submarines.
00:14:11.160 When I say ballistic missile submarines, I mean nuclear, the ones, the boomers that can drop the hot one in this situation in Ukraine.
00:14:18.880 But a lot of movement there, I think, heading towards peace, although we announced today a $200 million arms package to the Ukrainians.
00:14:27.400 Dr. Bradley Thayer, Cleo Pascal.
00:14:29.160 We also have Alex Marlow, the editor-in-chief of Breitbart, will join us here shortly.
00:14:33.860 Brian Harrison from Texas.
00:14:35.360 A bunch of updates there in action taking place.
00:14:37.520 General Flynn's going to be here.
00:14:38.700 And we're going to continue our discussion from last night on the MRNA, what's happening.
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00:17:05.980 No other show today will show you like that.
00:17:07.920 They'll show Hiroshima, you know, Morning Jones, all over that.
00:17:11.000 And look, obviously the victims are important.
00:17:12.980 But as important are the people that had to make the decision and what the information they had when they made the decision.
00:17:20.280 Because in the New York Times, I think the headlines in the New York Times today, you know, this day has been dedicated to peace.
00:17:29.440 But you're facing a world in the Third World War.
00:17:33.420 The kinetic part of the Third World War has already started.
00:17:36.460 We have now, we've been told that the casualties in Ukraine are much higher than have been reported.
00:17:41.600 So you have, I don't know, 2 million dead and wounded in Ukraine.
00:17:45.140 You have, I don't know, over 100,000 in Gaza.
00:17:50.220 They're talking about in the Times of Israel, not Breitbart or not the war rumors, reporting that the son of Netanyahu is tweeting out that there's a mutiny
00:18:00.140 in a coup going on by the chief of staff of the IDF because they are adamantly opposed.
00:18:06.360 The Israeli army is adamantly opposed about an occupation of Gaza.
00:18:09.800 They say they're too worn out.
00:18:10.900 They can't do it.
00:18:11.680 And so these wars are only heating up.
00:18:16.460 They're not dying down.
00:18:17.420 They're heating up as much as President Trump's done a magnificent effort to try to do it.
00:18:21.940 They are inexorably building steam.
00:18:26.160 Can't deny what the reality is in both of these situations.
00:18:30.800 And, of course, the main thing, the Chinese Communist Party continues to do rehearsals for an invasion of Taiwan.
00:18:37.180 So, Dr. – so, Cleo Pascal, pick up where you left off about Tinian, the importance of it, the importance of the launch, all of it, ma'am.
00:18:45.080 Yeah, so in 1933 in this great exercise, because you're talking about when is it an exercise and when is it a practice run.
00:18:52.840 And 1933, we had the first takeoff of an airplane in Micronesia, and that was part of this Japanese exercise.
00:19:02.120 And they also had the civil-military fusion going on where they originally said that it was a sugar factory building a baseball field, but it was actually a runway.
00:19:12.120 So, we're starting to see a lot of the same parallels in the way that Japan was emplacing itself, the way that it was covering over exercises, the civil-military fusion component of it, with the Chinese activity across the area.
00:19:26.760 Tinian itself was, once it was liberated by the Americans, actually, is about the shape of Manhattan, shape and size of Manhattan.
00:19:37.420 And so, when the Seabees rebuilt it to be able to put in the Northfield runways where the Enola Gay took off from, they actually renamed all the streets after streets in Manhattan.
00:19:48.360 So, if you go to Tinian today, you get – there's a central park and a Broadway, and it's a little bit of America.
00:19:55.660 But you're also seeing the Chinese casino relics.
00:20:00.500 You're seeing the money coming in, and I am extremely concerned that what you're actually seeing on the ground now, in parallel to what you saw in the 30s, is the coming in of the Chinese businesses that are going to be used by domestic politicians,
00:20:19.660 including people like the Deputy Assistant Secretary that we've spoken about, and the woman representing Tinian, who is from Tinian in Congress, to go for economic independence, which leads to independence of the Marianas,
00:20:35.840 and maybe with a compact or free association like you see with the others.
00:20:39.800 And then you have exactly the same situation that you had 75 years ago, where right off of Guam, 60 miles from Guam, you have a sort of independent place under the control of an aggressive Asian power.
00:20:55.640 And that proximity to Asia that allowed the Enola Gay to take off and be in range would also allow, in the other direction, the U.S. security or U.S. vulnerability.
00:21:08.380 So understanding exactly how we got to this point 80 years ago, where the U.S. could be in a geographic position to defend itself from an aggressive Asian power,
00:21:20.460 and that geographic position has been held on to for 80 years, including through a plebiscite that made the people of Tinian and the rest of the Marianas decide to join the U.S.,
00:21:29.840 is now at a critical point where this may not be the case anymore in 5, 10 years down the line.
00:21:38.380 And we lost over 100,000 men just to fight our way to get there.
00:21:41.980 Just to get there, you lost probably some of the worst combat in the history of the United States, and particularly the Marine Corps, which was in the Navy,
00:21:51.180 which were absolutely magnificent in that entire campaign.
00:21:54.140 Dr. Bradley Thayer, there's a lot of criticism by people who don't know better, who have studied history, don't understand what's going on.
00:22:02.700 But, oh, the United States was barbaric in doing this, and today on Morning Joe, you get the whole, the United States is the bad guy, the United States is evil.
00:22:09.700 Put in perspective what today means, sir, in reality, not in beatnik-like fantasy.
00:22:17.480 Sure, Stephen. Great to join you again. Four quick points. First, it was the immediate cause. The atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the immediate cause of the end of this horrific war.
00:22:30.760 And as a result, it saved many hundreds of thousands of American lives and many millions of Japanese lives who would have been killed in what was called Operation Downfall,
00:22:41.360 which was going to be the invasion of Kyushu and of Honshu in November of 45 and March of 46.
00:22:49.080 So, secondly, it realized the victory for which so many Americans and Chinese, of course, and Australians and British, Dutch, Filipinos, had died, and their sacrifice.
00:23:02.760 You had about 364,000 Americans killed and wounded and missing in the Pacific War alone,
00:23:10.080 and not counting about 27,000 Americans who were POWs in Japan who would have been executed if the invasion of Japan had occurred.
00:23:20.600 It also kept the Soviets from getting an occupation zone, because if the war had gone on, the Soviets would have invaded essentially the northern part of Japan
00:23:31.140 and would have had an occupation zone.
00:23:34.240 And thankfully, MacArthur said no, when after the war, they asked for one.
00:23:40.140 Next, it was the dawn of the atomic age, right?
00:23:43.180 This is August 6th is significant because it's the dawn of the atomic age in which we live, in which we encountered the Cold War, of course, and the world that we face today.
00:23:54.500 It also underscores the need for a strong industrial base for the United States to possess.
00:24:00.340 The triumph of American science and industry that made possible the atomic bombs, as well as the B-29 to deliver the atomic bomb.
00:24:10.440 We've done about four years, Steve, four years to do both the Manhattan Project and the B-29.
00:24:16.880 And that organization really helped so much to underscore we have and must have a strong industrial base as we move into the future in the war against the Chinese—
00:24:29.540 then the confrontation against the Chinese Communist Party.
00:24:32.000 And lastly, it defined the nature of the war in the Pacific, where—and those lessons are salient today, right?
00:24:40.000 That is, we face a formidable enemy in the Chinese Communist Party.
00:24:44.100 There are tremendous distances.
00:24:46.540 Islands matter, obviously, in the Pacific.
00:24:50.100 In essence, this is the reverse CENTCOM, right?
00:24:52.860 Today, we face the prospect of high-intensity great power warfare against a pier in the People's Republic of China.
00:25:01.500 And you need to have a very strong Navy, very strong Air Force, of course, in order to deal with that adversary.
00:25:11.120 And we're not in that position today, sadly.
00:25:14.700 So August 6th of 1945, the 80th anniversary, allows us to appreciate the sacrifice.
00:25:22.940 It allows us to appreciate the lives saved by that.
00:25:26.720 E.B. Sledge, in his famous book with the Old Breed, his memoir of the Pacific campaign, Peleliu and Okinawa, in which he was involved with the 1st Marine Division, right,
00:25:38.500 underscored that the atomic bomb saved him and saved his, essentially, his comrades because they were going to get killed in the invasion of Japan.
00:25:49.720 They knew it.
00:25:50.360 They expected it.
00:25:51.260 And so, again, hundreds of thousands of American lives saved and millions of Japanese lives saved as a result of this conflict, the atomic bombing.
00:26:03.520 When you read Sledge's book, it's written when he's a professor at the University of Alabama, I think it was.
00:26:10.140 I think it was an English professor in his old age, but it's about his thinking as a young man.
00:26:14.720 I think he was 17 or 18 years old.
00:26:16.340 With the Old Breed, you read that book, you're going to understand why they dropped a bomb.
00:26:21.260 Also, people should remember, which they constantly confuse, an atomic bomb got dropped on Hiroshima, and they didn't surrender.
00:26:31.940 They didn't surrender.
00:26:33.340 There was a huge fight of the Imperial Japanese High Command, the Emperor, all of it.
00:26:38.320 And they were still, even after the second atomic weapon was dropped on Nagasaki, my point is there were some very tough hombres in the Japanese high command that just said, hey, we're going to fight to the death.
00:26:51.900 We'll just fight the Americans the entire way.
00:26:54.440 We don't care how many they dropped.
00:26:55.700 So it was a – this was not a done deal after the first.
00:26:58.920 Think about that destruction and the destruction of their people.
00:27:01.780 And they said, bring it.
00:27:05.820 We have to bounce.
00:27:06.880 Cleo Pascal, can I get your – you're putting up content all day.
00:27:11.600 This is a very important part of the world.
00:27:13.060 We're focused on it, particularly in the investigations that are going to start.
00:27:16.620 Where do people go, ma'am?
00:27:18.800 My ex is my name, Cleo Pascal, C-L-E-O-P-A-S-K-A-L.
00:27:23.820 And getter is real Cleo.
00:27:26.100 Thank you for covering this, sir.
00:27:29.260 No, it's – this is vitally important, particularly for the war on posse.
00:27:32.740 They're going to be the deciders, right?
00:27:34.660 They're driving the political narrative here, which we're going to get into a moment, from Texas to this – the grand jury and all that.
00:27:43.840 So, Dr. Bradley Thayer, where do people go for your content, sir?
00:27:48.820 I see Brad Thayer at X and Bradley Thayer and Getter and Truth.
00:27:51.920 Again, thanks very much, Steve, as Cleo said, for covering this really historic day, of course.
00:28:00.360 Historic day.
00:28:01.700 We owe this to the greatest generation and to mankind that the war on posse, the backbone of the MAGA movement, is reflective on this day.
00:28:11.380 We'll take a short commercial break.
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00:30:04.720 We are a democratic republic here in the United States.
00:30:08.940 And in our states, the way it works, and this is true here in Texas, the voters do not vote on every issue on their own.
00:30:16.660 They elect people like me and 149 others in the Texas House of Representatives to be their voice, to be their fighter for the things that they believe in.
00:30:27.280 And it is incumbent on the 150 of us in the Texas House of Representatives to show up, to do our job, to roll up our sleeves, and to vote or debate or amend, but to do the hard work of governing on behalf of the people of Texas.
00:30:42.700 And so that's what I'm trying to do here is to say we got elected, we ran.
00:30:46.480 So you don't have an issue, then, with what the Democrats have done in Illinois?
00:30:50.000 You don't have a problem with gerrymandering?
00:30:51.340 Well, what I have an issue with what's going on in Illinois is not that their legislature has written maps that they believe are appropriate for them.
00:31:00.460 My issue is with the hypocrisy that Illinois has done a much more aggressive redistricting map that much more heavily favors the Democrats than the maps that the Texas Republicans are considering right now.
00:31:15.420 So there's nobody in Illinois with a straight face can criticize anything that the state of Texas is doing, because, quite frankly, we're redistricting much less aggressively for the purposes of political advantage than Democrat states like California, New York, and Illinois.
00:31:32.920 Brian Harrison joins us because of the war and posse and Brian Harrison at the tip of the spear.
00:31:40.520 This is the number one political story in the world, Brian, after your hits on internationalists, particularly BBC, I literally was contacted from people all over the world because that goes out on BBC internationally, globally, and particularly to decision-makers all over the world.
00:31:54.800 Greg, tell me, what is your sense that the international media is actually worse than the American media?
00:32:03.020 I mean, they're, like, totally clueless.
00:32:04.640 You have to go back to basics for them.
00:32:06.220 So how have they handled it so far?
00:32:09.500 Well, they basically handled them the same way I've had to handle, you know, CNN and other, you know, liberal mainstream media outlets for the last week as well.
00:32:16.240 It's sort of like, how dare you Texans do something that the voters of Texas want you to do, because we don't like what you're doing, therefore it's somehow evil and morally repugnant and wrong, and you should cover your face in shame.
00:32:30.480 Screw that.
00:32:31.400 30 million Texans elected me and 150 other people to come down here and do what they want.
00:32:37.220 That's what we're trying to accomplish down here.
00:32:38.680 And every one of these, you know, hypocrites, dishonest, cynical, showboating, sham Democrats from Governor Pritzker to Governor Newsom and the Democrats in all those states that have been radically and in extreme fashion gerrymandering their states for the last 10 years, they don't have a leg to stand on in terms of, you know, criticizing what we're doing down here in Texas.
00:33:03.200 Because even the maps, if we pass the maps that we're trying to pass right now, we would still be less gerrymandered than New York, California and Illinois.
00:33:12.300 So, so spare me the faux outrage.
00:33:15.480 Okay, these leftists, these radicals, these socialists, they have no problem with states redrawing maps to maximize partisan political advantage.
00:33:23.920 They're just angry that a Republican state is trying to do it.
00:33:28.740 Big time.
00:33:29.740 The Massachusetts, and I knew when this started, when we had that meeting a couple of weeks ago.
00:33:33.200 I said, we've got to focus on this for the grassroots, that it would cause a range war.
00:33:38.500 Massachusetts came out today.
00:33:39.720 And my point is, hey, bring it.
00:33:41.120 You're already, Illinois and CNN never covered it at all.
00:33:44.260 Illinois is the most gerrymandered, well, not one of the most gerrymandered.
00:33:48.720 So it's Massachusetts.
00:33:49.580 They're going to take away all the Republicans, although I think Trump lost 52-48.
00:33:54.240 Fine, bring it.
00:33:55.340 You know, bring it.
00:33:56.160 Let's, let's, let's throw down now and have it out.
00:33:58.840 I'm 100%.
00:33:59.680 Go ahead.
00:34:01.660 No, no, yes.
00:34:02.980 CNN got very angry with me because I actually, they were criticizing our redistricting.
00:34:07.980 I held up a map of Illinois and I put it in the camera and I told the host, I was like, did you or anybody at CNN ever drag Pritzker, put his face on TV and say, defend Illinois 13, which is a map.
00:34:19.280 The district is like the size of a pinky that runs all the way across the entire state.
00:34:25.120 And then CNN didn't like that very much.
00:34:26.580 So they brought me back on.
00:34:27.440 I was on 15 minutes with Caitlin Collins in the first 15 minutes of her show.
00:34:30.620 And they did their best to fact check me to say, no, no, no, we, we covered it.
00:34:35.020 But every clip they showed wasn't one single excerpt of CNN ever asking any Democrat in any Democrat state, legislator or governor to defend the gerrymandering that's been going on.
00:34:47.640 So unintentionally, CNN proved the point that you and the posse and I all know to be true.
00:34:53.580 These Democrats, it's nothing but projection.
00:34:56.300 That's what's going on right now.
00:34:57.660 Pure hypocrisy.
00:34:58.440 These people are fundamentally dishonest frauds.
00:35:01.420 OK, one of the reasons you've been the leader of this and done such a great job, there's rhetoric and there's performance art and then there's reality.
00:35:08.360 The Republican establishment has to understand we're getting this done.
00:35:12.420 OK, and it just can't be talk.
00:35:14.240 We're going to do this, going to do that.
00:35:15.580 Go through a Brian Harrison special.
00:35:18.680 You put out a punch list of what has to be done.
00:35:21.160 And there's a lot that can be done.
00:35:22.900 Right.
00:35:23.100 Let's just go through the punch list of what you're recommending, because last night your recommendation that, hey, if they want to hang out in Illinois and we can't get to the long, long, long arm of the law can't get to them.
00:35:33.000 Then every week you're out, we pick up another seat.
00:35:36.120 Right.
00:35:36.620 So so walk me through this punch.
00:35:38.660 And people love that.
00:35:39.520 The posse love that.
00:35:40.280 So walk through exactly what Brian Harrison's punch list for the Republican establishment to get done here in the next 24 to 48 hours.
00:35:49.100 Yeah, happy to do it. And I'll go one step backwards in time.
00:35:52.740 In fact, my staff is shooting over to yours right now, a very short video, because context is everything here.
00:35:57.900 I'll go through the list of things that I would do if I were the governor or if I were the speaker.
00:36:02.320 But we got to back up a couple of days because it's not like the Democrats snuck out of town and nobody saw this coming.
00:36:08.600 And did it despite the best efforts of Texas Republican leadership to keep him here.
00:36:12.660 The opposite is true. The Democrats, you know, fled the state with the full cooperation of the establishment RINO leadership of the Texas House.
00:36:22.900 And in fact, I can prove it. Nobody has to take my word for me.
00:36:25.640 It was just seven days ago. We were on the floor of the Texas House.
00:36:28.640 We had the maps filed. They were in the system.
00:36:31.760 We had the Democrats in town. The Democrats were on the floor of the Texas House.
00:36:35.900 We were in the chamber. We had an official quorum.
00:36:38.760 All we had to do was what the speaker did a few days ago, which is do a call of the house, which basically says you can't leave.
00:36:45.700 And if you do, you're going to be arrested. He didn't do that.
00:36:48.440 Instead, what did our RINO speaker do? He adjourned the house after only seven minutes.
00:36:53.920 I screamed to the top of my lungs. Objection.
00:36:56.900 He ignored the objection, gaveled them out, opened the doors on Wednesday so they could literally walk down the hall of the Capitol
00:37:04.020 into the open arms of Hakeem Jeffries, who had flown down here from Washington, D.C.
00:37:09.260 So you've got to start there. The Republican.
00:37:11.860 This is as much of a failure of a Republican elected leadership in Texas as it is anything else,
00:37:17.400 because if Republicans had wanted to stop this from happening, they had all the tools they chose to let the Democrats leave.
00:37:22.900 So that's number one. But number two, let's put that aside for a second.
00:37:25.400 Now we are where we are. They're hiding behind Governor Pritzker and Gavin Newsom and in California.
00:37:31.420 They're all over the place. OK, number one, we should start with the basics.
00:37:35.380 All right. The parking spots. OK, until the parking spots are gone.
00:37:38.040 I know you're not even pretending to try. OK, not one parking spot has been been revoked.
00:37:41.920 All right. Seniority. These people care about their seniority because that's how they get on their committees.
00:37:47.500 That's how they get their big palatial office spaces. OK, but let's talk about the big action.
00:37:51.940 There's lots of talk from the governor and other people about vacating their seats and having special elections.
00:37:56.280 Well, as of it's been a week since the Democrats last had quorum, there have been zero seats vacated.
00:38:03.160 Zero. We've had civil arrest warrant signed. We've had zero arrests.
00:38:08.840 OK, I want seats vacated now. I want arrests made now. I want charges.
00:38:13.720 These people may well have committed criminal bribery offenses that that those legal proceedings need to get started right now.
00:38:21.180 And one thing that's going to shock, well, maybe the posse knows this, but most folks across America don't know this.
00:38:25.960 Democrats hold powerful committee chairmanship in the state of Texas.
00:38:30.700 Yes. Imagine if Nancy Pelosi or AOC were chairman of Ways and Means.
00:38:34.940 You know, AOC was Energy and Commerce. I mean, that that is literally what goes on here in the state of Texas.
00:38:40.240 Not one Democrat chairmanship has been revoked.
00:38:43.880 OK, their budgets should be slashed. So even if we can't fire the Democrat staffers, we have the power to not pay them.
00:38:50.100 So why are the Democrat staffers all being paid while their bosses are outside of the country?
00:38:56.060 We haven't had one single office be defunded. And then, yeah, what I'm calling the Harrison proposal.
00:39:00.400 You mentioned it. Let's play hardball. I'm sick of the Democrats being the only one that fight aggressively for the future of this country.
00:39:06.420 Republicans should be fighting as hard to save America as the Democrats are on destroying it.
00:39:10.600 And for every one week you're gone, we're adding one more Republican seat to the map.
00:39:14.820 So you want to be gone one week? Cool. We just went from from plus five to plus six.
00:39:19.320 You're gone two weeks. We went from plus five to plus seven.
00:39:22.660 Let's play fire or fight fire with fire. As Gavin Newsom said, I want to do that, too, but more aggressively.
00:39:27.680 And then and then finally, the easiest thing we could do, because it doesn't involve the courts.
00:39:31.780 There's no legal questions. This is purely whether they want to use the power they have or not.
00:39:36.340 If I'm the Republican speaker of the Texas House, as long as I'm the speaker, if you're a Democrat and you're abdicating your constitutional responsibilities,
00:39:44.960 any bill you ever want to pass that's got your name on it, dead on arrival.
00:39:49.900 It will never see the light of day in the floor of the Texas House.
00:39:52.600 And if I'm the governor of the state of Texas, this is super easy for Governor Abbott.
00:39:56.280 Say to those Democrats right now, every one of you that hasn't shown up, any bill that's got your name on it, automatic veto.
00:40:03.320 Don't even bother sending it to my desk. That would make a difference.
00:40:07.660 The Democrats would pay attention to action right now.
00:40:09.740 But right now, the Democrats in Illinois, California and New York, I can watch them on TV.
00:40:14.000 They're literally mocking the elected Republican leadership in the state of Texas.
00:40:18.900 It's embarrassing. It's infuriating. Texans want bold action.
00:40:23.420 They're sick of tough rhetoric and no actions. It's time to change this.
00:40:28.780 Yeah, it's words and deeds. Now we need deeds.
00:40:30.980 So the Warren Posse, we're going to get this to them, the Harrison proposal.
00:40:37.440 And we're going to call the governor and we're going to call the Speaker of the House.
00:40:42.320 What would you like us to say when people call and say, hey, we want to put forward, we want to play smash mouth.
00:40:46.940 You've got to start disciplining these Democrats.
00:40:49.080 What would you like the Warren Posse to say as an opener when they talk to these folks?
00:40:55.320 Well, I mean, one simple thing is, and you can use the tweets.
00:40:57.740 I think your staff's got it. I mean, if you want to push that out there.
00:41:00.200 I mean, every item on that list, ask them, why has none of these things happened?
00:41:06.260 I mean, all we have right now is a flurry of effectively strongly worded letters.
00:41:11.560 Where is the action? Where's the beef?
00:41:14.140 You know, as the old commercial used to say, like, where are the arrests?
00:41:17.720 Where's the defunding of the office?
00:41:19.500 Why the hell haven't you taken their parking spots away?
00:41:21.860 I'm talking the basics. Oh, and by the way, I have it on very good authority that there are multiple Democrats still residing within the boundaries of the state of Texas and that elected leadership in Texas is aware of this.
00:41:36.280 Those are the low hanging fruit for arrests.
00:41:38.980 Why have there been no arrests made if Democrats are, in fact, residing within the bounds of Texas?
00:41:45.120 And if you're the governor or speaker, why haven't you promised to kill every bill of every one of these Democrats that has fled the state?
00:41:52.660 There is no question as to the authority of that.
00:41:54.680 Some of these things, I know there are lawyers on both sides.
00:41:56.560 OK, well, this might take a court proceeding.
00:41:57.920 That might not take a court proceeding.
00:41:59.080 The facts of the matter are the governor could kill and veto every bill by any of these Democrats.
00:42:04.180 Why hasn't he promised to do that?
00:42:05.340 Why hasn't the speaker promised to kill the bill of every day?
00:42:07.260 Why hasn't the speaker taken their chairmanships away?
00:42:09.280 Ask him why they haven't done these things.
00:42:12.440 We're going to get on it.
00:42:13.620 We're going to get everybody up on the ramparts in the next hour.
00:42:16.440 But here's the thing.
00:42:17.040 Even if it could be a court proceeding, drive the action.
00:42:19.600 Be the protagonist here.
00:42:21.440 Be the protagonist.
00:42:22.420 Drive the action.
00:42:23.300 You're absolutely correct.
00:42:24.900 Yeah, the left.
00:42:26.080 The left, OK, it's like people talk about asymmetric warfare and geopolitics all the time.
00:42:30.860 What we've got for, not just in Texas, but in a country, and Stephen, you know this,
00:42:35.440 it's been this asymmetric warfare where the Democrats have no limiting principles.
00:42:39.980 They will stop at absolutely nothing to achieve whatever their leftist, you know,
00:42:44.960 totalitarian, authoritarian goals are.
00:42:47.480 Meanwhile, the Republicans are all like, well, there might be a legal question.
00:42:51.820 We're probably right, but I don't know.
00:42:53.360 We want to get sued.
00:42:54.060 Guys, it's time to wake up, smell the music.
00:42:59.020 It's 2025.
00:43:00.280 It's World War III out our window.
00:43:01.840 The left is coming to destroy our country.
00:43:04.480 They want to bankrupt the next generation.
00:43:06.200 They want to destroy the blessings of the freedoms and liberty of prosperity that our
00:43:10.280 forefathers fought and died for.
00:43:12.200 It's time to fight as aggressively against the left as the left is fighting against our country.
00:43:18.840 I'm sick of beanbag, you know, weak establishment Republican politicians.
00:43:22.880 Democrats are playing hardball.
00:43:24.300 It's time Republicans fight back.
00:43:26.100 What's your Twitter?
00:43:28.980 We've got to bounce.
00:43:29.620 Ten seconds.
00:43:30.200 What is it?
00:43:30.900 What is it?
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00:43:31.920 Harrison on X.
00:43:32.780 At Brian E.
00:43:33.640 Harrison.
00:43:34.260 At Brian E.
00:43:35.280 Harrison.
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00:44:59.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:45:05.960 Okay.
00:45:06.520 Alex Marlow joins us.
00:45:07.880 We're very fortunate that in this fight, which is a multiple fronts, right?
00:45:11.580 We got the text.
00:45:12.660 Now, it's a nationwide redistricting, right?
00:45:14.780 It's the number one political story in the world.
00:45:16.380 So right next to we have a grand jury, I believe, in South Florida on this seditious conspiracy, treasonous conspiracy.
00:45:26.960 You're going to have the House come back, all of this.
00:45:29.160 You've got not just Epstein.
00:45:30.260 You've got everything on the treasonous conspiracy in Russiagate.
00:45:33.360 And you've got 150, 175 lawsuits on President Trump's Article II power.
00:45:38.580 They're all interconnected, and they're interconnected because this is how the Democrats are going to run now because they can't beat you at the polls.
00:45:47.180 And now that we've got people like Seagal Chata in Nevada, the new U.S. attorney that says on local TV last night with the interviewer, she's now the acting attorney general, you know, what are your priorities?
00:45:59.560 Election integrity.
00:46:00.660 They fully melt down because they know it's going to be harder to steal elections.
00:46:04.520 Alex Marlow has written that battle plan.
00:46:06.680 It's called Breaking the Law, Exposing the Weaponization of America's Legal System Against Donald J. Trump, in which President Trump on the cover says it's a must read.
00:46:16.320 So, Alex, you just heard Harrison, both with the BBC and then on the war room down in Austin.
00:46:23.060 Your thoughts, sir?
00:46:24.460 Steve, think about this.
00:46:26.340 When you joined up with Breitbart, when was it, 12 years ago or so, and Andrew's there, and Andrew is fighting to try to make conservatives cool and fun and make sure that we're not scolds.
00:46:39.460 And now we got Sidney Sweeney in the jeans, and the left is like, you guys take her.
00:46:43.600 And we're like, okay, that sounds great.
00:46:45.440 And then now we've got the Republican establishment is completely irrelevant here.
00:46:50.180 And you got guys like Brian out there going on BBC, and the BBC is saying, well, isn't this unfair that we're gerrymandering?
00:46:55.940 And then Brian just goes, I don't care.
00:46:57.900 I literally don't care at all.
00:46:59.480 I got elected to serve a constituency of people, and they want this, and I'm going to deliver it for them.
00:47:06.060 And anyone who's not with me is no longer a part of the core Republican movement.
00:47:10.520 That's the answer we wanted.
00:47:11.780 We've been dreaming of this, and now it's here.
00:47:13.340 We're fighting now, and we're fighting with a smile on our faces.
00:47:16.020 It couldn't be better.
00:47:18.940 Couldn't be better.
00:47:19.840 This is what Andrew has always dreamed of.
00:47:21.320 And we're playing Smash Mouth.
00:47:23.300 Talk to me about the book.
00:47:24.420 The book sets the battle plan here of what the environment is.
00:47:28.380 You make specific recommendations, but you also frame this that it's kind of one-stop shop.
00:47:33.320 People can get up to speed on exactly what these different verticals are.
00:47:36.580 Walk me through it.
00:47:37.220 Yeah, thank you for that, Stephen.
00:47:39.400 You had a great quote last night on your show where you called it a primer, and it is that.
00:47:44.420 That's partially what it is, and where I started was just no one's really pieced together these cases.
00:47:49.900 There were six key cases against Trump.
00:47:51.820 He had to win all these cases.
00:47:53.360 He didn't have to win them, but he had to at least survive them while he was running for president, running for president from a courthouse because of massive election interference.
00:48:00.220 That was controlled from the top, from the Joe Biden White House, blatantly illegal, needs to be investigated, and we need to start seeing some heads roll over this thing.
00:48:08.360 However, no one can really even sort out the six cases in their head.
00:48:11.600 Julie Kelly can, but most people can't do this.
00:48:14.300 And I tried to write something so that people could actually understand the extent of the lawfare, the extent that it's connected to the other hoaxes of our time.
00:48:21.540 One of the things that I really wanted to highlight to you and the posse on the show today was the Stormy Daniels case, the one case that ended in convictions, criminal convictions for Trump, never should have happened.
00:48:31.720 The reason why that case ended up in a conviction was because of the Russian collusion hoax.
00:48:35.820 Michael Cohen was a key subject of the Russiagate investigation.
00:48:39.340 The government was able to get access to his Gmail account, the Justice Department, and the special counsel from Robert Mueller's investigation.
00:48:46.860 All of this started with the Russiagate hoax.
00:48:48.480 If there is no Russiagate hoax, there is no Stormy Daniels conviction, which, by the way, we've got to throw out all those convictions on that front.
00:48:54.960 But the point is no one understands the interconnectivity of all of the lawfare.
00:48:59.120 It is from a superstructure.
00:49:00.660 It's a massive apparatus.
00:49:02.180 I explain the apparatus.
00:49:03.580 Who funds it?
00:49:04.520 What they're doing now?
00:49:05.580 How it's connected to the Bozbergs of the world?
00:49:07.560 This is their only way to stop the MAGA agenda right now, and they're working 24-7 right now to do it.
00:49:12.900 Here's the thing.
00:49:19.380 The Republican establishment, so many of those are lawyers and tied into these big law firms.
00:49:24.720 They are particularly hesitant.
00:49:27.240 You see this in the Bill Barr's world.
00:49:28.940 This is an area they're particularly hesitant to get involved in, and you can see this down in Texas and what's happening right now.
00:49:34.440 Walk me through that.
00:49:35.140 This is the most important area for Democrats.
00:49:38.380 It's where their weapons are pointed at us, downrange right at us, yet the intellectual legal elite of the, by and large, of the Republican Party doesn't want to touch this.
00:49:53.720 You get the Mike Davises.
00:49:55.200 You get the Borises.
00:49:56.140 You get the Harrisons.
00:49:57.520 You get the fighters.
00:49:58.860 But the white-shoe Republicans don't want to touch that.
00:50:01.660 Why is that?
00:50:03.180 Yeah, but it's because of all the money.
00:50:04.460 It's because they've taken all these loans.
00:50:06.160 They've gone through the system, and then now finally they can make some money, and they're not going to be welcomed in polite society if they take on jobs for President Trump or connected to the conservative movement.
00:50:16.900 And it takes bravery.
00:50:18.220 It takes bold leaders right now.
00:50:20.160 I like you talking about you being the hero.
00:50:22.780 You've got to think yourself as a main character in this.
00:50:25.060 And attorneys, conservative attorneys have to stand up, have their voices heard right now because there's a massive effort to blackball conservative attorneys,
00:50:32.420 people who work for Trump and help President Trump.
00:50:34.880 And we're not just talking about keeping you out of the best firms.
00:50:37.340 We're talking about making it so that you might not even be able to practice law at all.
00:50:41.020 They look for ways to disbar you.
00:50:42.380 They look for ways to make sure that you're not welcome anywhere.
00:50:45.200 And this is a massive problem with the legal infrastructure and the superstructure that they built.
00:50:49.840 And it is a real threat because we need the best attorneys as well.
00:50:53.480 But that's why people need to stand up.
00:50:55.280 Canceled culture was a phase.
00:50:56.600 We're blowing past it.
00:50:57.760 And the legal world is going to have to deal with that right now.
00:51:02.820 Alex, can you hang on for a moment?
00:51:04.900 I want to keep you through the top of the hour.
00:51:06.240 Whatever you got.
00:51:07.060 General Flynn is also going to join us.
00:51:08.920 But I need to keep Alex Mueller around.
00:51:10.780 You've got to get this book.
00:51:11.880 One more time, before we end this segment, the top of the hour, I want to know where people can go get the book,
00:51:17.500 where they can get all your writings, where they can get access to you and access to this amazing primer on this war that we're fighting now.
00:51:25.300 Thank you.
00:51:25.960 Thank you.
00:51:26.320 Breaking the Laws Out Now released yesterday.
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