Bannon's War Room - Episode 4693： Ending The Forever Wars; Stopping Big Pharma Ads

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,

00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 Here's another time I got a free shot

00:00:13.000 at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:26.000 MAGA media.

00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul,

00:00:30.000 I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:33.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country,

00:00:40.000 this country will be saved.

00:00:43.000 War Room.

00:00:44.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:52.000 Okay, welcome back.

00:00:53.000 We're having to do some for some technical issues

00:00:55.000 with some of our guests.

00:00:56.000 We're trying to get them up.

00:00:58.000 May or may not.

00:00:59.000 And of course, you know, we have people by phone,

00:01:02.000 but we really have them by phone with this breaking news.

00:01:04.000 There's something we got to get into analytics or some analysis.

00:01:07.000 I always want them up on Zoom so you can see them.

00:01:10.000 And we kind of walk through and throw charts up, etc.

00:01:13.000 Dave Bratz with me.

00:01:15.000 So we're going to get into this Armenian situation in a minute because it's also got,

00:01:21.000 it also has a thing called the corridor that I think we have to understand.

00:01:24.000 We're going to get Ube Shandabra up here in a moment as soon as we work out the technical issues to walk us through it.

00:01:30.000 President Trump's essentially taking the afternoon today.

00:01:33.000 They're going to come, I think, after lunch.

00:01:35.000 There's going to be a meeting.

00:01:36.000 Then there will be a signing.

00:01:38.000 I think that's going to take place all tentatively 4 o'clock this afternoon.

00:01:42.000 Of course, normally those things kind of run late or a schedule gets jammed.

00:01:46.000 So we'll see in the 5 and 6 o'clock show today.

00:01:51.000 Natalie's going to take the 5 and Dave Bratz and myself will be back to co-host the 6.

00:01:58.000 I want to go to something from the clip this morning.

00:02:03.000 The situation in Gaza, Dave Bratz, it's a little bit confusing,

00:02:09.000 but I think here's at least what we currently know is that the Israeli cabinet,

00:02:15.000 and I think it was a 10-hour meeting, 10 or 12-hour meeting, quite contentious.

00:02:20.000 This is in a series of contentious meetings because it's contentious not just some people on the right of Netanyahu,

00:02:31.000 but also now the military.

00:02:33.000 This is all about this Gaza occupation.

00:02:36.000 And it's been released that at least they're going to send troops now into preparing troops.

00:02:42.000 NBC's got a piece up about on photo reconnaissance.

00:02:47.000 You can see that they're getting ready to go into Gaza City,

00:02:50.000 but it also looks like they're going to try to occupy Gaza in and of itself.

00:02:54.000 And then they're talking about they will not recognize any of the clearly Hamas, 0.85

00:03:01.000 which is nothing but the Muslim Brotherhood, because militarily they said they're going to take out Hamas

00:03:06.000 and break the back of Hamas's political oversight of Gaza.

00:03:13.000 But they will not deal with the Palestinian Authority, another group of guys they don't think they can trust, 1.00

00:03:18.000 but they want to turn this over to the Arab nations.

00:03:20.000 The Arab League has said, hey, we will do this as long as the Palestinian Authority can govern it.

00:03:26.000 So it's it's quite unclear your thoughts.

00:03:29.000 And one of the things, you know, the huge congressional delegation,

00:03:33.000 instead of going back home, went over to Israel on Dakota right right off the bat.

00:03:38.000 My concern about this entire thing is that here's my issue, my biggest concern, just like the Persian situation or the Iranian situation, 0.57

00:03:47.000 which we now know that the Israelis needed the Americans not just to finish what they started with,

00:03:54.000 taking out the nuclear capabilities, because between our Tomahawk missiles and our aerial bombardment, total obliteration.

00:04:03.000 But that was 100 percent American. Also, on the defensive side, the citizens in Tel Aviv and Haifa were taken incoming much more than people were led to believe. 0.54

00:04:14.000 And, you know, the we had to provide defensive capabilities.

00:04:17.000 But then at the end of the day, I'm not even sure that was enough. These people are just getting crushed here.

00:04:22.000 My big concern is this could be Baghdad all over again. Right. 1.00

00:04:27.000 I mean, you're talking a couple of million people. It already looks like Dresden.

00:04:31.000 There's this massive humanitarian crisis. And clearly, you know, the Muslim Brotherhood of Hamas are doing as much as they can possibly stir it up. 0.98

00:04:39.000 But there's there's fault on both sides. And now you're talking about a complete occupation of this.

00:04:44.000 Yeah. My fear is I hope that the White House and the Pentagon have been briefed on this when they say, hey, they can do what they want.

00:04:51.000 That's fine. If you say that, that I that implies to, I think, the MAGA that you don't need any American involvement.

00:05:01.000 Now, at the same time, you're hearing Huckabee and some guy saying we're going to put in now another 30 or 40 feeding stations that the United States is going to fund.

00:05:09.000 Does that mean American personnel means when you do these occupations in these Arab countries or that this does not turn out?

00:05:17.000 Well, look at our occupation of Baghdad. That was a disaster. We let's go back in history on the ill on the lies of Karl Rove.

00:05:27.000 Right. Karl Rove and the Bush Hunter, who lied to your face because it's documented that at in the afternoon of 9-11, they were trying to tie Saddam Hussein to to to to what happened in in downtown Manhattan and in the Pentagon.

00:05:47.900 They were trying to tie and they worked like crazy to gun deck the intelligence to make sure we got into a war with Iraq. 0.71

00:05:55.100 And of course, the war in Iraq took 30 days, I think, before Madison, those guys got up there.

00:05:59.500 The road to Baghdad wasn't much. It was years of bloodshed.

00:06:04.640 It was years of bloodshed of, you know, in the occupation of Baghdad in Iraq that finally had to go.

00:06:13.120 So, you know, you got the Colonel Harvey went over, did an assessment and then General Kelly at the time, who was a great Marine general.

00:06:19.340 He's terrible as a chief of staff for President Trump.

00:06:22.040 But they had they had to prove they're the strongest tribe in Anbar province.

00:06:26.600 And we finally got that thing sorted out after, I don't know, eight years, 10 years.

00:06:31.220 I mean, Mo went over there, I think, in 2010 or 11.

00:06:33.480 It still wasn't sorted out eight, nine years later.

00:06:36.060 And that whole occupation was a total they had not thought it through.

00:06:41.340 In fact, they fired the general that came up, said he's going to need 250,000 troops.

00:06:45.760 Right. And is this plan any different?

00:06:49.040 Do we understand? And we're saying, hey, you know, let them go do it.

00:06:53.060 If they want to do it, let them do it. That's fine.

00:06:55.640 Let them go do it. They're an independent country.

00:06:58.640 They should make their own decisions. Right.

00:07:00.780 But I think we need to know, is there any implied American involvement in this occupation?

00:07:07.500 I don't believe the IDF general in charge, the chief of staff, has been so adamant that the IDF regular forces are so tired and beat up from fighting Hezbollah,

00:07:18.180 fighting the Muslim Brotherhood and Hamas, the first part of this war, that they're saying they're tired.

00:07:23.520 And then they've got the volunteers, all of them are volunteers, but you've got the reserve force, be the occupation troops.

00:07:31.380 The IDF, the chief of staff in these meetings was so heated that Netanyahu's, and I'm just saying what the Times of Israel and the Jerusalem Post have reported,

00:07:43.420 that Netanyahu's son, who, by the way, doesn't serve in the military and is living in Miami Beach,

00:07:49.360 he tweeted out that there was a mutiny or a potential coup d'etat by the IDF.

00:07:56.620 They so opposed their president, their father, his father's plan.

00:07:59.740 Your thoughts on Occupy Gaza, because, hey, if you're going to do it this time, you've got to finish what you started.

00:08:05.740 We can't have another Persian situation where they start something and they understand to finish it. 1.00

00:08:12.020 They need us to be the—they need us to—they couldn't even conceive of finishing the Persian situation. 0.87

00:08:18.840 And that didn't even talk about defense of their own people from the ballistic missile capability.

00:08:23.480 So this Gaza situation has just metastasized over the last two years. 0.63

00:08:28.880 And, man, if you start drawing American—you want to kill the MAGA movement?

00:08:32.380 Let's have American troops go over there as an occupational force, because this will end in tears, sir.

00:08:42.520 Yeah, the basic problem—and I agree with what you just said—is that our interests are not aligned, right?

00:08:49.640 Israel's interest is their survival with some tough neighbors going back to 53.

00:08:56.160 Our interest is to make friends, right?

00:08:57.960 We had the Abraham Accords going with those seven countries, you know, Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iraq, Iran. 0.86

00:09:04.340 And President Trump was kind of signaling, hey, I want to use negotiation before the bombs start going off.

00:09:10.680 We start killing people.

00:09:12.040 And so that's the main question.

00:09:14.020 Is there an implied relationship where we're going to come in at the end?

00:09:18.700 It looks like it, if you just follow recent history, much less not going back to 1953 when Mossad, CIA, MI6 has been involved in all of these coups through time, and it has not gone well, right?

00:09:33.020 And that has implications for our own national security, 9-11, making friends with the rest of the world.

00:09:39.200 And so, I mean, I think Netanyahu owes it to us to come forward and explain to us.

00:09:44.800 The part I don't get is, you know, Israel has supreme intelligence capabilities, military intelligence.

00:09:51.960 They're genius people.

00:09:54.880 And I want to know why they can't get rid of Hamas and the PLO leadership, right? 0.52

00:09:58.420 Trump's getting ready to put a little more security in D.C. to make sure we get some peace in the streets in D.C.

00:10:05.400 Hey, surely Netanyahu, I want to hear that.

00:10:07.640 Just come explain why that's not possible, why you can't just, you know, okay, you're going to take it over, but take it over, and let's have peace and move forward together with some contract.

00:10:19.300 And I'm just, you know, I'm an economist, so there's a lot of oil, and there's a lot of money at stake in Gaza as well, and I hope it doesn't end up with that punchline or we're in deep trouble.

00:10:32.420 Hang on a second.

00:10:35.600 Just stay right there.

00:10:36.260 My co-host, Dave Bratt, I want to bring in Ube Shandahar, a former defense intelligence analyst and Middle East expert who've had Ube on before, because a little bit of the occupation of Gaza gets to this thing about what's happening in Armenia today, and we'll explain it.

00:10:49.140 Right, because it is a peace accord, and President Trump is working for the region and the world to let's go to peace, let's put our guns down and focus on prosperity.

00:10:57.900 But there's also a situation with the corridor, right, which I want the zombies to understand, because when you look at the corridor and then you look at the potential Gaza occupation, there's a lot of people saying, hey, look, that's all great, but we got sanctuary cities.

00:11:12.380 We have Los Angeles, Chicago, and New York, which are megacities that are out of control, sanctuary cities, and we haven't deported really a person out of there except some criminals, and we need mass deportations.

00:11:22.900 So is this America first? 0.94

00:11:24.820 So just take a – we're going to hold you to the break from there.

00:11:27.660 Walk us through exactly what's going on today.

00:11:30.180 What is this whole situation about?

00:11:32.360 Why are we saying this peace thing?

00:11:33.680 And what's the underlying strategy here with this corridor, sir?

00:11:39.560 Yeah, let's talk peace on the war room.

00:11:41.960 And it is a historic day.

00:11:43.600 You know, President Trump posted on social media yesterday that a historic day for peace between Azerbaijan and Armenia, two longtime foes that are now coming down to the White House to sign a peace framework overseen by President Trump.

00:11:58.900 And this is probably going to be viewed by history as one of President Trump's crowning peace accomplishments as part of his peace legacy.

00:12:09.880 Now, for our viewers that don't know what's happening, essentially, you have Azerbaijan and Armenia.

00:12:15.620 They've been fighting wars for the past four decades, the latest one in 2023.

00:12:21.440 The shooting part of the war has ended, and they've been trying to negotiate a lasting peace treaty that hasn't gone anywhere.

00:12:29.060 Enter the United States, President Trump and his team.

00:12:32.480 They brought the two sides together after a lot of back-and-forth shuttled diplomacy.

00:12:37.440 And the key sticking point that stopped the two countries from reaching a final peace deal is what's called the Zengizor Corridor.

00:12:46.800 It's essentially a transport corridor, a road and rail network that would go through Azerbaijan into the southern part of Armenia along its border with Iran.

00:12:56.840 And then it would go to Turkey and then into the west, essentially an east-west corridor that would connect the west to Central Asia and East Asia, bypassing Iran and Russia.

00:13:11.480 And Trump is hosting the two leaders, Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan of Armenia, who just tweeted out that blessed are the peacemakers, and Azerbaijan President Ilham Aliyev, who is the leader of a moderate Muslim country, majority Shia, secular.

00:13:30.380 And he wants strategic cooperation with the United States on energy security as well.

00:13:35.760 Azerbaijan has a lot of natural gas in the Caspian.

00:13:40.280 Aliyev was extremely mad at Joe Biden.

00:13:43.180 He believed that the Biden administration didn't want peace.

00:13:46.540 And he believes that President Trump is the man to bring peace.

00:13:50.760 And so this is history.

00:13:52.200 It's the first time that you're seeing these two leaders of Armenia and Azerbaijan sitting down, signing an actual peace document.

00:13:58.080 And it is because of President Trump's efforts.

00:14:01.440 This really does impact the United States because it means economic cooperation, trade, energy security, you know, more markets, you know, for American goods with Azerbaijan, you know, being a rising power in the south boxes.

00:14:17.100 And it cuts out Iran and Russia.

00:14:19.200 So it really is a significant milestone for the president's peace initiative.

00:14:23.620 And that corridor is going to be very significant for east-west connection.

00:14:27.220 And hang on.

00:14:29.460 I want to get into the whole geopolitics of it.

00:14:31.280 And also this situation with the persecution of Christians and the slaughter of Christians.

00:14:36.440 It all rolls into this.

00:14:38.560 Peace today is on the menu at the White House.

00:14:41.960 An historic day this afternoon.

00:14:44.580 We're going to cover it all.

00:14:46.840 Our team is there.

00:14:47.740 We'll cover it as it happens.

00:14:49.240 And President Trump, I think, is going to open up and have people even in the Oval or in the signing and take questions, I'm sure.

00:14:55.040 Short commercial break.

00:14:55.900 Back with Ube and Dave Bratt in a moment.

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00:17:39.940 This is, you know, right now, Witkoff and President Trump are working on this massive Russian rapprochement.

00:17:47.300 It gets Ukraine sorted, the Middle East sorted. 0.97

00:17:50.360 This is clearly, I would argue, our version of One Belt, One Road.

00:17:55.500 It puts the Chinese Communist Party at a disadvantage.

00:17:59.180 It puts the Mullahs and the Persians at a disadvantage. 1.00

00:18:02.280 And it also hurts Russia's long time.

00:18:07.360 And forget the Bolsheviks. 0.88

00:18:08.820 Forget the KGB.

00:18:09.860 Russia is Russia. 0.88

00:18:11.220 At the end of the day, it's their whole drive for a warm water port in the North Arabian Sea, right?

00:18:18.180 The great game Afghanistan was in the 19th century. 0.99

00:18:21.440 But there are a lot of Americans, and particularly a lot of people in MAGA, that love President Trump as he leads this effort for peace and putting the guns down.

00:18:32.620 They get a little jiggy when they see Gaza in an occupation, and they know how Netanyahu and these guys always want to suck the Americans in to have direct involvement.

00:18:43.320 They look in Armenia, and they know that there's been this horrible slaughter of Christians. 0.89

00:18:47.920 But they're saying, hey, it's a half a world away.

00:18:49.960 So make the case why geopolitically this makes sense and why this is smart, why this is morally because of the slaughter of the Christians, and finally, why this is America first, sir. 0.64

00:19:02.060 Well, as part of this peace deal, this corridor that's going to be established in southern Armenia that's going to connect Azerbaijan and Turkey and the West to Central Asia and Far East Asia, that's going to be called the Trump route for international peace and prosperity.

00:19:19.740 And from my understanding of the memorandums of understanding that are going to be signed in the White House today between all three sides, the U.S., the Azerbaijanis and the Armenians, is that it's going to be an American company.

00:19:33.220 There's going to be no boots on the ground, no deployments of U.S. forces.

00:19:37.380 Remember, there's still Russian troops in Armenia.

00:19:40.560 Armenia has a massive Russian base there.

00:19:43.120 And the Azerbaijanis have said, hey, we've got our own forces.

00:19:46.280 We don't need the Americans. 1.00

00:19:47.640 We don't need the French. 1.00

00:19:48.560 We don't need the Russians on our soil. 1.00

00:19:50.780 We just want trade.

00:19:53.100 And we want to establish new relations with the United States.

00:19:56.960 So it does seem that, you know, that President Trump's vision of unlocking the economic potential of the South Caucasus, this is an area that's considered or was considered the backyard of the Russian Empire and of the Persian Empire.

00:20:11.720 Now, the fact that you've got President Trump, the Americans, you know, we're the ones that are negotiating this peace deal.

00:20:17.860 That is very significant geopolitically.

00:20:20.620 Does this mean that this is going to suck America into a conflict in the far-flung reaches of the South Caucasus mountains?

00:20:27.860 I do not think so.

00:20:29.320 The shooting war is over.

00:20:30.880 The two sides, Armenia and Azerbaijan, have said, OK, we fought our wars.

00:20:35.060 It's done.

00:20:36.180 Azerbaijan won that battle.

00:20:38.020 But how do we ensure that there are no more future conflicts, shooting conflicts?

00:20:43.200 And this deal that is going to be signed in the state, in the White House today, is what's going to establish an irreversible pathway to peace.

00:20:54.040 And that is why that is so important.

00:20:55.500 That ensures that the U.S. does not get sucked into a foreign-flung war.

00:20:59.360 Now, you are going to have an American company building that road and rail network in southern Armenia, connecting Azerbaijan and its outer territories.

00:21:09.040 And that is going to be right on the Iranian-Armenian border.

00:21:12.840 So the Iranians, the Persians, you know, that regime, they're not too happy about it.

00:21:16.660 And, of course, this sticks a thumb in the eye of Moscow because the Kremlin was the one who wanted to be the ones that brought these two former Soviet states together.

00:21:25.960 But Azerbaijan wants to reach out to the West.

00:21:28.460 They don't want the Chinese influence. 0.98

00:21:30.920 And Armenia is completely dependent upon Russia and Iran for trade.

00:21:34.020 But now with this peace deal, they can open up their Western trade routes, including trade and economic relations with the U.S., which Armenia does not have.

00:21:43.600 It's essentially just a satellite state of Russia and Iran currently.

00:21:46.480 This peace deal will change that.

00:21:48.180 And the Azerbaijanis have said, hey, no more fighting, no more killings.

00:21:51.660 You know, there's churches in Baku.

00:21:53.260 There's churches in Azerbaijan.

00:21:54.980 There's a small Jewish community.

00:21:56.560 And the Aliyah, just a few weeks ago, was publicly praising President Trump's vision for peace, no new wars.

00:22:04.720 In fact, the president posted that clip on his social media.

00:22:08.080 So, overall, this is really a historic achievement and ensures that American trade and prosperity is put first, ending the forever wars in the South Caucasus and in the Middle East.

00:22:19.400 That used to be a very volatile area.

00:22:21.500 Now, for the first time in four decades, no more wars.

00:22:25.300 I also think it's not a random, since there are no coincidences, I don't think, and knowing President Trump is a chess master when it comes to negotiation, I don't think it's a random event that this is happening today.

00:22:38.740 While they're sort of, it may be one of the many reasons that Putin is saying, hey, maybe I ought to sit down with these guys before they do some more damage to the Russian Empire.

00:22:48.560 So, it's not random this is happening on an August.

00:22:52.180 It's kind of a game.

00:22:53.000 Hey, let's get the Armenians and the Azerbaijans over. 1.00

00:22:56.540 Ube, where can people follow you?

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00:23:00.360 Ube's working with Rick Grinnell.

00:23:01.620 You're doing a lot over at the Kennedy Center.

00:23:03.240 You're also one of the smartest brains I know on the defense intelligence side.

00:23:08.120 Where do people track you down?

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00:23:11.500 God bless.

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00:23:18.480 Trump will fix it.

00:23:21.920 Thank you, brother.

00:23:22.940 Look forward.

00:23:23.340 We'll talk to you more after the signing.

00:23:25.800 How about that?

00:23:27.300 Blessed are the peacemakers.

00:23:30.280 Blessed are the peacemakers.

00:23:31.580 President Trump.

00:23:32.360 I think it's his fifth or sixth war.

00:23:34.820 So, Brat, you know, I'm always a little jiggy when he got an American company building a corridor over that part of the world for the protection of it, right?

00:23:42.920 But let's see how this thing plays out.

00:23:44.640 President Trump is smart enough, and he's grinding through here.

00:23:47.900 I do think that this is one of the elements of getting Putin's attention, right?

00:23:52.960 Saying, hey, look, two can play this game and get his attention that a rapprochement between the United States and Russia makes a lot of sense, and now is the time to do it.

00:24:03.100 You've got to sort this mess out in the Ukraine. 0.89

00:24:05.940 You've got to help sort this mess out in the Middle East. 1.00

00:24:09.060 And then we've got to sort this mess out with the Chinese Communist Party.

00:24:12.680 Your thoughts about this?

00:24:14.160 One thing I want to make sure is not—we fail to mention is that there's a global persecutions of Christians and Christianity and the Christian church.

00:24:24.220 One of the worst parts of the world—it really been genocide—is in this part of the world, which nobody covers,

00:24:29.720 including too many Christian pastors and the Catholic church, does not do enough of highlighting the slaughter that's going on here, sir.

00:24:37.620 No, the Armenians, I had a great Armenian community in Richmond, Virginia.

00:24:44.280 The church, they're just outstanding people, very kind, generous, just fun to be with.

00:24:50.940 And so this is just a great day.

00:24:53.280 And this conflict, from what I know of it, is not primarily religious, right?

00:24:58.420 It's territorial.

00:24:59.220 It goes with Soviet Union and everything. 0.87

00:25:01.380 And—but the major piece here is the bigger geopolitical aims of the U.S. and Trump.

00:25:09.620 And we've got to get out of this making friends with Russia once we get past this, you know, piece here. 0.97

00:25:17.680 And I feel very positive about the initiatives coming up between Trump and Putin. 0.87

00:25:23.720 And so, you know, the stupidest thing we've done is to drive Russia closer to China. 0.92

00:25:29.500 And you just heard Azerbaijan doesn't want to go that way. 0.98

00:25:34.080 And I'm friends with a bunch of ambassadors from Africa and other—they—I'll put it in Christian—they don't like Russia.

00:25:42.800 They don't like China, I mean.

00:25:44.460 They've been treated terribly by China.

00:25:47.540 And so the world is ours.

00:25:48.780 We have to engage.

00:25:50.200 That doesn't mean we need to support and spend money and all that, right?

00:25:54.380 And all the USAID and the deep state stuff.

00:25:56.500 That's not what it means.

00:25:57.280 What Trump's doing here, using the private sector as a bumper zone, boy, that's—I like that idea.

00:26:02.840 You know, and that used to be the thesis that didn't work out so great.

00:26:06.200 You know, countries that trade together don't go to war with each other.

00:26:08.440 That was our theory with China as well.

00:26:10.620 They failed with China because they're so entrenched in Marxist-Leninism under Xi.

00:26:16.280 But the rest of the world is not that entrenched.

00:26:18.840 I don't think Putin is that entrenched.

00:26:20.620 And so Trump's doing everything right here.

00:26:23.560 These deals, he's putting heavy pressure—there's no one else tough enough to stand up to all of the EU, right?

00:26:31.520 Way years back, that was the—I about fell off my couch when I watched him turn around to the entire EU leadership, right?

00:26:40.460 The presidents and prime ministers, et cetera.

00:26:43.080 And that was just a great day.

00:26:45.160 He sent the signal, and we're strong enough to do it.

00:26:47.660 And now peace, we have the chance, the opportunity.

00:26:52.940 And this certainly is providential, right?

00:26:55.440 God wants us all to love each other, love him and love each other.

00:26:59.320 And we've got to move in that direction.

00:27:02.180 In every country, with every relationship, we need to move toward peace.

00:27:10.680 Absolutely.

00:27:12.820 As long as you're keeping your eye on the price, that's what I think you're 100 percent correct.

00:27:18.020 A rapprochement with Russia is in everyone's best interest for peace throughout the world, 1.00

00:27:23.860 and particularly to allow the United States to get back and to focus on—like, we've got a problem in these sanctuary cities.

00:27:32.200 Yeah.

00:27:32.480 You know, people—Hohman and other guys, it's working through the courts, but we've got to understand, we have an enemy within.

00:27:37.820 We have an enemy within that's as bad or maybe worse than the enemy without between the deep state and the invasion that Biden and the deep staters allowed, the Globus allowed.

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00:29:50.200 I'm so tired of these ads.

00:29:52.480 Whoa, who are you?

00:29:54.420 I'm Big Pharma.

00:29:55.540 We spend a lot to get into your living room.

00:29:57.960 Over $18 billion a year.

00:30:00.400 Selling medicine you can't even get without a prescription.

00:30:03.940 All that spending buys off the media and drives up prescription costs.

00:30:07.840 For you.

00:30:08.480 And that's why there are only two countries that allow us to advertise.

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00:30:17.140 Got any nachos?

00:30:21.000 Wow.

00:30:21.980 Very powerful.

00:30:23.040 We're going to bring in Rob Burgess.

00:30:24.260 The group's doing that.

00:30:25.140 I've got a little news break here, and I'll get more to it.

00:30:27.880 But Letitia James, New York Post, others reporting, New York Times reporting that Letitia James has been, wait for it,

00:30:35.300 subpoenaed in this case about her, the fraud about her real estate.

00:30:41.360 I think there's more to it than that.

00:30:42.760 Okay.

00:30:42.860 Headline, New York Post, Tish for Tat, New York AG James subpoenaed by Justice Department over $450 million civil fraud case against President Trump.

00:30:53.960 And I think there's also other issues about it.

00:30:56.540 James hit with subpoenas as part of the grand jury probe of Albany's attorney generals and her office's $450 million civil case against President Trump. 0.68

00:31:04.480 And I think there's also more aspects about her personally, but we'll get more details of that this afternoon on The Afternoon Show.

00:31:12.600 Rob Burgess joins us.

00:31:13.820 Look, that's a very effective ad.

00:31:15.180 I think it's kind of going viral.

00:31:16.820 But give us the background of that ad.

00:31:19.000 $18 billion is kind of shocking to people.

00:31:22.480 Is that what they spend just on television a year?

00:31:24.440 Is that what they spend across all media?

00:31:26.060 What is that number?

00:31:26.900 So that number is all media, television, radio, newspaper ads, digital advertising.

00:31:34.680 This is a systematic problem here in the United States and in New Zealand.

00:31:39.940 We are one of two countries that allow direct-to-consumer advertising by big pharma.

00:31:45.560 And what it's actually doing is it's underwriting big media.

00:31:49.960 And so we're not getting the true coverage of this issue.

00:31:53.680 You know, President Trump has led the issue on this for a long time.

00:31:57.300 And that's part of the reason why Americans for Pharma Reform exists is we want to amplify taking back control of our health care. 0.97

00:32:05.980 We want lower drug costs.

00:32:07.680 We want to hold big pharma accountable.

00:32:10.220 And at the end of the day, 62 percent—

00:32:12.020 Aren't you—hang on, Rob.

00:32:13.180 Hang on, Rob.

00:32:13.780 Rob.

00:32:14.100 Rob.

00:32:14.440 Hang on.

00:32:14.860 Hang on. 0.66

00:32:15.160 Aren't you just a collection of anti-vax wingnuts?

00:32:18.300 Isn't that what—you're just—you're doing this and you're saying we're going with the big pharma, everything like that.

00:32:21.880 But at the core of it, aren't you just a bunch of anti—a bunch of tinfoil hat anti-vax wingnuts, sir?

00:32:29.240 No, we're actually not.

00:32:30.520 You know, we've got some hospital group systems involved.

00:32:33.520 We've got grassroots donors.

00:32:34.940 We've got people who are actually concerned about too much pharma influence in media.

00:32:39.300 We've got people that are concerned about too much media influence in pharma.

00:32:42.600 But a huge chunk of our supporters are people that are sick and tired of the control that pharma has over our elected officials.

00:32:51.660 We ran a nationwide poll, Steve, just two weeks ago, 5,000 respondents.

00:32:56.880 And one of the questions that we asked them was, would you be more likely or less likely to support and vote for a candidate who accepted money from big pharma, even if you had previously supported them in the past?

00:33:09.980 75 percent of Americans, regardless of partisan lien, said they would vote against that candidate if they learned that they were taking money from big pharma.

00:33:20.500 This is an issue here in this country, and it's going to be a bellwether issue in the midterms this year.

00:33:26.360 I know you're watching things like that all the time.

00:33:28.420 So, Rob, you know, because we monitor so our audience doesn't have to, and we usually do cold opens, a combination of MSNBC and CNN, and MSNBC, honestly, is two-thirds of it if we're putting up these type of things.

00:33:42.400 So it's constant monitoring of these two networks.

00:33:45.360 And what has shocked me over the last couple of years is MSNBC is absolutely—I say it would be a test pattern if you took the big pharma ads off.

00:33:57.300 It's so unbelievable.

00:33:58.880 I mean, every hour or every segment, because media, ourselves included, everybody breaks it down by segments.

00:34:05.080 Every segment's got at least two big pharma ads on these diseases you've never even heard about.

00:34:11.120 I mean, it's so bizarre, and plus the antidepressants.

00:34:14.380 I mean, the people that watch those shows have got to be so anxious and depressed.

00:34:17.860 It's incredible.

00:34:18.720 But literally, and particularly with the spinoff coming where NBC and Comic-Con are kind of shoving it off, I guess, with the Golf Channel and the Weather Channel and some other things, they're so dependent upon big pharma paying top dollar.

00:34:33.580 I don't know how MSNBC would even exist without the big pharma ads, sir.

00:34:38.260 I 100 percent agree with you.

00:34:41.120 Our analysis is that stations like MSNBC, CNN, they rely on at least 31 percent of their ad revenue to come from big pharma network-wide.

00:34:52.180 That number only increases when you get into some of what they call their flagship shows in the mornings and the afternoons.

00:34:58.660 And so it very much is a situation that they are so reliant on this money in order to keep the lights on, to pay their talent.

00:35:07.580 How could they ever be an objective journalistic source against big pharma?

00:35:12.240 Now, what a lot of people don't realize, though, is that pharmaceutical companies are able to write their television advertising off on their corporate taxes.

00:35:21.980 It's 100 percent tax deductible with profit margins of 40 percent or more on their blockbuster drugs.

00:35:29.020 That means companies like Pfizer are sometimes receiving tax refunds larger than what they pay in corporate taxes every year.

00:35:38.620 That's despicable.

00:35:40.400 And so you're absolutely right.

00:35:41.580 By turning the screws on big pharma, by saying we do not want direct-to-consumer advertising to happen in this country, which, by the way, 52 percent of voters, regardless of party in this country, say they support, including a majority of rural, suburban, and urban women, do not want to see pharmaceutical ads on television.

00:36:03.040 81 percent, 81 percent, and 81 percent think that the industry as a whole needs to be reformed.

00:36:08.540 We have an opportunity to change the narrative in this country.

00:36:12.160 We have the opportunity to put President Trump's America First health care priorities in place.

00:36:18.460 And it starts next Friday.

00:36:21.080 We are launching the Ban Big Pharma Ad Bus Tour.

00:36:25.860 We're launching that next Friday.

00:36:27.700 We're going to be in Las Cruces, New Mexico, for our first stop.

00:36:30.980 And we are going to crisscross the country over the next eight weeks sharing this with voters and holding town halls and answering people's questions about this very important issue.

00:36:43.920 So what is your ask specifically?

00:36:47.820 Do you want to ban all media?

00:36:49.520 Do you want to go to what the European countries have done?

00:36:51.700 I think Canada has done.

00:36:52.720 Do you – what is the ask?

00:36:54.200 Because you're going to politicians.

00:36:56.140 This is their mother's milk is Big Pharma.

00:37:01.380 So you're going to go to the politician and say, hey, I got to get you off the Big Pharma tit, right?

00:37:07.740 How successful is that going to be?

00:37:09.660 You're asking them to take their primary donors or one of their primary donors and shut it down and not let them – and then say, by the way, you got to vote to support us in shutting these guys down from literally what's propaganda.

00:37:22.440 It's not news, it's propaganda on these news channels.

00:37:26.000 So we've got one of three things that we're asking for, right?

00:37:29.320 Again, we are a group that focuses on putting patients first.

00:37:34.000 We align with the Ad America First message.

00:37:36.620 So we don't want to take away constitutional rights, right?

00:37:39.800 We know there's a First Amendment for a reason.

00:37:42.340 But we do think that Congress should close the tax loophole and stop allowing 100 percent of these ads to be written off on corporate taxes.

00:37:52.040 That right there will lower the amount of ads by a good amount.

00:37:56.060 The second thing that we're asking Congress to consider doing is to utilize a provision of existing statute that would allow RFK Jr. to levy fees on these commercials.

00:38:12.120 And we're recommending a dollar-for-dollar match.

00:38:15.000 We think for every dollar that big pharma spends on direct-to-consumer advertising, they should be fined or have a fee assessed of a matching dollar that goes to offset Medicare and Medicaid in this country.

00:38:29.640 You saw the number at the top of the segment.

00:38:32.940 Over $10 billion a year are spent on this.

00:38:37.140 Can you imagine if they had to pay a dollar-for-dollar match and how we could help fix some tax problems in this country, deficit, debt, Medicare, Medicaid, some of these welfare programs that Americans rely on so heavily?

00:38:52.300 The last thing that we want people to do, though, is to let their voices be heard.

00:38:57.640 That's why it's so important to make sure you go to busbigpharma.com, right?

00:39:02.460 Let us know that you want to see us on the bus tour.

00:39:04.580 But more importantly, sign the petition saying that you want to ban direct-to-consumer advertising in its current form.

00:39:12.080 That's going to be the information that we share with every member of Congress about why this isn't so important in their district.

00:39:20.540 Lastly, Steve, I'd love to.

00:39:22.340 We're getting ready to launch the second ad in that series with the same protagonist and a different family talking about a whole different set of direct-to-consumer advertising.

00:39:32.060 We're hoping to launch that here in the next two weeks.

00:39:34.700 And if you'll have me back, we'd love to give it to you as an exclusive so you can air it first.

00:39:40.540 Done. Deal.

00:39:41.820 One more time, where do people go to go to the site and social media, all of it, so people understand.

00:39:46.820 I want to make sure the posse is always best when they fully understand the issue.

00:39:50.740 So we'd like to inundate them with information so they make their own decisions.

00:39:54.940 But where do they go?

00:39:55.700 Absolutely. We need your support at bustbigpharma.com.

00:40:01.580 Again, bustbigpharma.com.

00:40:03.740 And you can find us on all the social media sites.

00:40:06.480 Handle is at bustbigpharma.

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00:40:13.260 We are proud to be supported by the posse.

00:40:16.780 We will give you as much information as you need, and we look forward to being back.

00:40:22.060 Thank you, Rob.

00:40:22.880 Rob Burgess.

00:40:23.600 Thank you so much.

00:40:24.320 Appreciate you.

00:40:24.680 Thank you, Steve.

00:40:25.700 So, Brat, you've been there.

00:40:30.140 What's it like when Big Pharma comes in and puts the squeeze on you as a lowly congressman?

00:40:36.920 I was so low, I never got the squeeze.

00:40:39.960 That is what I refer to as the giant Excel spreadsheet in the sky, right?

00:40:44.760 That's up in the speaker's office.

00:40:46.780 It's shared with two or three people, and that's it.

00:40:50.060 But for the war room, let me give them the analogy that best fits that I just had to get in today.

00:40:55.900 When you go to the Federal Reserve, go watch that Tucker interview on the Fed guy.

00:41:00.360 But the Federal Reserve was set up to be the lender of last resort for the small little banks, right?

00:41:06.840 And then we had this thing happen after the Fed called the Great Depression, and the Fed was supposed to come in as a lender resort for the small banks.

00:41:14.700 What happened?

00:41:15.320 The small banks got crushed.

00:41:16.700 The small businesses got crushed.

00:41:18.280 They all went bankrupt.

00:41:19.660 That's mom and pop.

00:41:20.680 There weren't social insurance companies.

00:41:22.640 So now you hear the U.S., and there's all these arguments for big tech, big pharma, big everything.

00:41:28.000 They all need to go bye-bye.

00:41:29.800 It's very dangerous politically.

00:41:31.480 It's dangerous to our constitutional republic.

00:41:34.740 These folks are out of control.

00:41:37.040 The money shifts behaviors, preferences.

00:41:40.840 And the last gentleman was great.

00:41:42.940 You got to end big, big pharmacy, right?

00:41:45.800 It's the bigs that are shaping everything.

00:41:48.440 They're the ones that have monopoly power, and there'll be every argument in the book they're going to make.

00:41:52.000 Well, we're competing against China like big tech or something like that.

00:41:55.200 We have to have this power.

00:41:57.100 And so, no, that's why the base is hyped up now.

00:42:02.180 We all know this is the time in our country's history to make the big push.

00:42:06.720 And these big firms are doing extreme damage to the middle class, to the working class.

00:42:15.040 They're all working together.

00:42:16.660 They all get to meet with only leadership.

00:42:18.900 They don't even have to put up with the average congressman.

00:42:21.180 The average congressman is not in the loop at all.

00:42:24.940 And so thank God for the war room and the pressure we're putting on them. 0.91

00:42:27.980 We got some great people working up in antitrust now in D.C., and they need to be applauded for their great work.

00:42:34.360 No, the antitrust, the neo-Brandeisians over at the FTC, the FCC, Gail Slater and the team at the Justice Department. 1.00

00:42:46.620 You've got Mike Davis, all of us working towards this.

00:42:49.420 And you're right.

00:42:50.500 The difference, I can tell you, the single biggest difference between the first term and the second term is the concentration of power under Biden.

00:42:57.980 These oligarchs, big tech, big media, the big banks, big finance, big pharma.

00:43:02.860 It is – they are crushing and squeezing the life out of the entrepreneurs in this country and the American people.

00:43:09.520 Dave, Brad, hang on.

00:43:11.520 Want to talk in – let's get the number back up if we can.

00:43:16.020 Maybe we'll do it at the top of the next hour.

00:43:17.620 In Texas, need you on the phones today to light these folks up down there and tell them, hey, we need some action, action, action.

00:43:26.060 The governor's office, the lieutenant governor, call the lieutenant governor, tell them about the Senate.

00:43:30.260 How come the Senate hadn't voted?

00:43:32.200 Talk – call the Speaker of the House.

00:43:33.560 Say, let's take some action.

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00:47:03.620 It's incredible.

00:47:04.420 And look what people have to say about it.

00:47:06.560 Trevor Comstock, you got a big hit product that's out the last couple weeks on top of these other hit products that you've had out, like the immunity and the grass-fed beef liver.

00:47:17.300 Where do people go to find out more about what you're doing at Sacred Human Health?

00:47:21.340 Yeah, thanks for having me, Steve.

00:47:22.840 So you can go to sacredhumanhealth.com to find us.

00:47:25.900 And like you mentioned, I just wanted to quickly highlight on our immunity product, because we've had a lot of people reaching out lately saying it's been a lifesaver for them.

00:47:33.720 So I just wanted to quickly highlight it.

00:47:35.760 But it's great to take if, you know, if you're traveling or if you're out in public or if you are feeling a bit under the weather.

00:47:42.260 Now, of course, I always like to say it's great to focus on eating a clean diet, make sure that you're getting natural sunlight and taking the natural measures.

00:47:49.220 But in the case that those ways aren't always easily accessible, our immunity product is something that anyone can take and adds that extra layer of defense.

00:47:57.840 Now, I always say, too, you know, when people resort to taking things like VIX or Airborne or Emergency or a lot of these over-the-counter immunity products, they may be effective.

00:48:08.080 But usually about 99% of the time, they contain chemicals, additives, preservatives, and a ton of ingredients that really aren't good for your health.

00:48:17.100 So what's great about our immunity product is that it contains ingredients like vitamin C, D3, E, B6, echinacea, elderberry, as well as some other natural compounds that offers a great boost to the body's defense system.

00:48:30.260 And then, of course, we don't contain any or have any chemicals, preservatives, additives, or anything like that.

00:48:37.480 So, like I said, it's a great product to take as a preventative form of getting sick.

00:48:41.760 Or if you are getting sick and you want to speed up the recovery, it works great in that scenario as well.

00:48:47.180 So I would encourage people to check out some of the reviews on our website and click through some of the product information.

00:48:54.120 But like I said, you can just go to sacredhumanhealth.com to learn more.

00:49:00.260 Trevor Comstock, CEO and founder, fantastic job.

00:49:03.140 Thank you, sir.

00:49:04.420 Thank you.

00:49:06.700 Dave Bratt, you're going to be back at 6.

00:49:08.240 We've got about a minute.

00:49:09.140 Can you give your overall summary of the morning show?

00:49:11.460 We'll see you back here at 6.

00:49:12.580 Riding shotgun with me.

00:49:14.660 Yeah, summary of the morning show is very simple.

00:49:17.300 The grassroots is saving the country right now.

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00:49:24.900 You've got senior citizen friends.

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00:49:32.700 Shoot them the links.

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00:49:35.180 All political views are my own.

00:49:37.220 But every day before I get on this show, I pray to God to give me a few good words.

00:49:41.380 And if they don't align with God's Word and the Bible, you call me, critique me to day's end.

00:49:46.420 So I just encourage you all, stay deep in the faith, keep the faith, and support the War Room.

00:49:52.480 And together, we're going to save the country and then the world.

00:49:55.240 Dave Brat, where do people go to track you down on social media, sir?

00:50:01.760 Yeah, I just do meat and potatoes, Brad Economics on Getter and X.

00:50:05.840 I keep it updated a little bit.

00:50:07.540 But I just stay on the basic long-run economic growth stuff and just go back track.

00:50:13.000 I don't think the stock market or the daily news flash is our key to understanding the economy.

00:50:19.240 So all the basics are there.

00:50:23.400 Breaking news.

00:50:25.120 Breaking news.

00:50:26.020 The United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia just vacated radical activist Judge Boberg's order

00:50:31.760 holding present the Trump administration in criminal contempt for deporting illegals using the Illegal Enemies Act.

00:50:38.500 Wow, what a bombshell.

00:50:39.540 Well, we'll cover that both at 5 and 6 this afternoon.

00:50:42.760 Dave Brat, thank you so much.

00:50:44.500 Boberg is embarrassed.

00:50:46.960 Deportations march on.

00:50:48.100 And that is a tweet of Charlie Kirk, who follows us here at 12 noon at Real America's Voice.

00:50:53.300 Mike Lindell, what do you got for us, brother?

00:50:55.940 You guys, I'm out in Las Vegas.

00:50:58.000 I'm going to be going back to my basic.

00:50:59.540 I got to do a big speech about me getting saved a few years ago in 2017.

00:51:05.560 So I'm looking forward to that.

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00:52:27.600 More great news.

00:52:28.980 Fox reporting.

00:52:29.700 Peter Doocy reporting that Attorney General Bondi has authorized Special Prosecutor Ed Martin, the Ed Martin,

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00:52:41.980 It's a hell of a Friday, fans.

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Bannon's War Room - August 08, 2025

Episode 4693： Ending The Forever Wars; Stopping Big Pharma Ads

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