Bannon's War Room - Episode 4700： The Russian Trap; How The Deep State Took Down Nixon

00:00:00.000 Anthony is on our show a lot, President Trump announcing he's going to nominate Heritage Foundation Chief Economist E.J. Anthony to be the next commissioner of the BLS, our loss, maybe the BLS's gain.

00:00:12.000 He's going to replace Erica McEnterfer, who just, you know, seems like a fine person, but that name every time.

00:00:23.280 This is an uptick there, a lot easier.

00:00:25.880 President Trump, right?

00:00:27.520 First fired.

00:00:28.140 He's here to say, man.

00:00:29.000 You would have said the full, you would have just, I guarantee you, you would have said the old BLS commissioner that was fired.

00:00:34.240 That's how you would have probably gotten around.

00:00:35.920 That's how I would have done it.

00:00:37.260 One way, which I thought about it, and then I said, you know what?

00:00:39.800 Little tips and tricks on TV.

00:00:40.700 Yeah, no one at home is going to know either way, so I'm going with McEnter, who President Trump fired on August 1st, following a worse than expected jobs report.

00:00:51.260 At this point, I would have learned her name, so I'm a little worried about, I hope the CPI isn't like crazy, because, you know, we do have to trust these numbers.

00:01:01.620 These are, as good as it gets, probably around the world, most of the numbers that we do generate.

00:01:06.860 The president had accused the last BLS director of manipulating the data, and then when we spoke to the president, I tried to talk him into, look, the data's so bad, and it hasn't been improved,

00:01:19.420 that there's plenty of reasons maybe to try and get somebody else to do it without saying that it was politically motivated.

00:01:26.160 Antony, by the way, was a contributor to the project 2025 policy blueprint, frequent squawk box.

00:01:33.920 Guest President Trump, advisor Steve Bannon, had been pushing for him to be nominated.

00:01:38.940 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:01:46.440 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:01:51.660 Here's the reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:01:55.920 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:01:57.820 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:01:59.260 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:02:01.940 It's going to happen.

00:02:03.200 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:02:06.620 MAGA media.

00:02:07.500 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:02:13.420 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:02:17.160 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:02:23.500 War Room.

00:02:24.380 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:02:31.320 Tuesday, 12 August, Year of Our Lord 2025.

00:02:34.060 A packed second hour is coming up.

00:02:36.000 John Solomon's going to be here with kind of a blockbuster he scooped everybody on last night about these seditious conspiracy charges, grand jury, all of it.

00:02:48.400 Certain whistleblowers and informants coming out.

00:02:50.460 We're going to get to John Solomon.

00:02:51.500 Also, I said Michael Patrick Leahy and Jeff Shepard have made an incredible film about President Nixon.

00:02:57.060 We're going to launch that today.

00:02:59.020 You get to see a trail on that.

00:03:00.740 Jim Rickards, the great Jim Rickards, is with us.

00:03:04.380 I want to introduce George Beebe.

00:03:05.860 He's the director of grant strategy at the Quincy Institute and author of an amazing book I read, I think it was last year it came out, called The Russia Trap.

00:03:15.580 Sir, what is The Russia Trap and how is this going to play into this historic summit that's going to take place in our own Alaska on Friday, sir?

00:03:25.760 Well, thanks, Steve.

00:03:28.920 I read The Russia Trap in 2019, and I was warning about a collision course that the United States and Russia were on that I thought was going to end potentially in escalation into direct military conflict.

00:03:43.180 And I laid out the case for why that was in train and what we needed to do to avoid it.

00:03:52.340 Unfortunately, I think a lot of the things that I said were going to lead toward this collision were things that the Biden administration actually did.

00:04:01.420 And we wound up in all but direct military conflict with Russia, with real dangers of escalation into nuclear weapons use.

00:04:11.280 And I think to his great credit, President Trump has said, you know, we can't continue on that path.

00:04:19.320 We're going to have to find a way to settle the war in Ukraine and to put the U.S.-Russian relationship on a much safer path than it has been on.

00:04:30.560 And he's doing that.

00:04:31.960 And I think I'm hopeful that this meeting in Alaska will put the conflict in Ukraine on a path towards settlement.

00:04:40.680 And it's not going to by itself settle all of the issues that have to be addressed to end the war in Ukraine.

00:04:47.380 But I think it is possible to come up with a framework agreement in Alaska that will be a path toward an ultimate peace settlement.

00:04:57.120 And I think the meeting is also going to put the U.S.-Russian bilateral relationship on a much healthier course as well.

00:05:03.680 So I think the chances for Trump's success are relatively significant in all of that.

00:05:14.140 And that's a major accomplishment in and of itself.

00:05:19.620 Zelensky is clearly not going to be invited.

00:05:22.340 The Europeans are meeting.

00:05:23.340 They're going to have their say.

00:05:24.100 So when you talk about framework, what is your best guess right now of what the optimum framework is for the bilateral relationships of the United States and Russia?

00:05:34.760 Because that's what we care about.

00:05:36.680 You know, we've been defending the Europeans.

00:05:38.760 And like I say about World War II, virtually none of the nations in NATO, their leaders,

00:05:44.000 almost all those countries were either neutral, leaning towards the fascists and the Nazis or actual partners with them that our real ally were not the Bolsheviks.

00:05:56.260 It was some of the worst people.

00:05:57.380 They're as bad as the Nazi leadership, but the Russian people. 1.00

00:06:01.300 So what framework do you think is the optimum for a bilateral beginning of a rapprochement between the United States and Russia?

00:06:08.540 Well, I think the biggest issue in the relationship between Russia and the United States since the end of the Cold War has been the shape of Europe's security order.

00:06:20.860 You know, the United States essentially said, OK, we've ended the Cold War.

00:06:25.320 We had a Europe split between NATO and the Warsaw Pact.

00:06:29.500 That's over.

00:06:30.500 We're entering a new era.

00:06:32.580 And we very quickly said, you know, and that new era is going to be NATO-centric.

00:06:38.240 NATO is going to be the organization that has overarching security responsibility in Europe.

00:06:44.060 And Russia is simply going to have to swallow that.

00:06:46.460 And Russia doesn't really have a significant role to play in all of this.

00:06:50.840 Russia can be a junior partner to NATO.

00:06:53.140 It can basically endorse decisions that the NATO allies agree to.

00:06:57.980 But it can't really be a decision maker in all of this.

00:07:01.160 And the Russians said, hey, no, wait a minute.

00:07:03.620 That's not what we thought we were agreeing to.

00:07:07.220 Europe should be a player in European security decision making.

00:07:13.160 And Russia has to make sure that NATO doesn't put military forces in close proximity to Russia's own border

00:07:22.060 and pose a military threat, as Russia sees it, to Russian interests.

00:07:27.840 And this has been the central issue, I think, between Russia and the West, between Russia and the United States ever since.

00:07:38.240 And the Russians have urged a way to try to find a compromise that respects both European security interests and Russia's own security concerns.

00:07:50.800 And the West has essentially said, no, you know, we're not going to talk about that.

00:07:55.600 That's that's out of bounds.

00:07:57.920 And eventually we reached the point where the Russians said, OK, if you're not going to talk about it at the diplomatic table,

00:08:02.740 we're going to settle this matter on the battlefield.

00:08:06.020 We can exercise a veto over whether Ukraine becomes a member of NATO or not.

00:08:11.740 We can exercise a veto over whether the West puts military forces on Ukrainian territory.

00:08:18.620 If you're not willing to address this at the negotiating table, we'll address it on the battlefield.

00:08:23.360 And we're now at a point where the United States has said, OK, we do need to address this at the negotiating table.

00:08:31.580 If we can settle that issue and it's going to take a lot to address this, Ukraine is part of it. 0.97

00:08:38.920 You know, settling the war in Ukraine on a compromise basis is a big part of addressing this bigger issue.

00:08:44.640 But it doesn't by itself solve all the issues that have to be addressed.

00:08:48.340 We have to look at arms control. We have to look at confidence and security measures in Europe.

00:08:54.540 We need to recognize that Russia has to have a voice on European security issues that directly affect Russia's core security concerns.

00:09:05.780 So I think that is something that has to be addressed in a framework.

00:09:10.720 We have to put the conflict in Ukraine on a path toward a compromise.

00:09:15.960 And I think that the two presidents are going to do that in Alaska.

00:09:21.080 But we also have to put in place an understanding that these broader issues about Europe's security, both conventional military issues and nuclear matters,

00:09:35.300 have to be on the table that Russia, Europe and the United States have to be negotiating over these.

00:09:42.300 That's going to take a while.

00:09:43.920 But I think acknowledging in Alaska that that has to be on the agenda is a critical matter.

00:09:52.200 We do that.

00:09:53.500 And then I think that helps the United States in its broader geopolitical issues.

00:10:00.040 It disincentivizes a close security relationship between Russia and China.

00:10:05.420 Won't drive a wedge between the two of them.

00:10:08.160 They'll certainly continue to have extensive economic and political interactions as normal countries do.

00:10:16.040 But it doesn't incentivize them to cooperate in security matters against the United States to the degree that they have in recent years.

00:10:25.340 And I think it helps ensure that Europe stands on its own two feet as a security player in the world.

00:10:33.400 Europe hasn't been doing this.

00:10:34.640 They've been relying on the United States to be essentially their security subcontractor.

00:10:40.340 We can't afford to do that anymore.

00:10:42.240 And this helps ensure that they play that role.

00:10:45.340 I mean, when you look at it, though, I remember when I came off of sea duty and went back to the Pentagon in 1980, the Red Army coming across the North German plain, the folded gap, you know, the forward deployment of Persian missiles, all of it to stop the Red Army. 0.51

00:11:01.080 You've got guys three years into a war.

00:11:03.660 They really haven't taken all the much new territory from what they had.

00:11:07.140 And then they failed to take Odessa.

00:11:09.580 There's no chance they can go across Poland into Germany.

00:11:12.160 And the NATO side's a joke.

00:11:14.160 The whole 5% is not for 10 years.

00:11:16.380 It's just about Ukraine.

00:11:17.500 The population over there, I think they took a poll.

00:11:20.580 9% of the German population wants to defend their country.

00:11:23.820 NATO has no real military force.

00:11:26.180 I think they can put forward outside of the United Kingdom two combat divisions if you put them all together.

00:11:32.840 They don't really want to pay for the military.

00:11:34.880 So are we overblowing the fact that you've got an army that really can't take anything and is after a million casualties, can't take Odessa, and absent tactical nuclear weapons?

00:11:47.000 And you have Europeans that's really not a military threat, the Russian army.

00:11:51.340 And in addition, they don't want to pay for anything.

00:11:53.440 They want the Americans to pay for it, sir. 0.95

00:11:57.040 No, I think that's exactly right.

00:11:59.420 The Russians were fighting on territory that was extremely favorable to them, short supply lines right on the Russian border, in a country that they were intimately familiar with.

00:12:12.460 They had once been one country.

00:12:14.600 Their military officers knew Ukraine, its territory, its terrain, the way that Ukrainians fight.

00:12:23.140 All of that were essentially optimum conditions for the Russian military.

00:12:28.460 And they still have inched forward for years on this.

00:12:33.780 They've not overwhelmed Ukraine militarily in any quick sense.

00:12:39.300 So to look at their performance in Ukraine and say, we worry that the Russians are going to take Germany or Poland or France, I think is absurd.

00:12:51.400 They have no capability to do so.

00:12:54.120 I think they also have no desire to do so.

00:12:56.720 They're not even going to take all of Ukrainian territory.

00:13:00.500 The vast bulk of Ukraine is going to remain independent once this war is over.

00:13:07.240 And the Russians have no capability to occupy and govern the rest of Ukraine either, let alone conquer it. 0.64

00:13:14.500 It would require an enormous occupation army, far bigger than what the Russian military has.

00:13:21.240 So we have to understand that the Russian threat, quote unquote, to Europe really is not a threat of military invasion.

00:13:30.300 It's the threat of unintentional escalation into a nuclear confrontation that the Russians don't want and we don't want, the Europeans don't want.

00:13:41.460 That's the big danger. And that's why we have to be negotiating over a nuclear relationship.

00:13:48.780 That's the trap. George, where do people get you at the Quincy Institute?

00:13:52.220 We want to have you back on. Where do people go for social media and your website?

00:13:56.420 It's quincyinstitute.org.

00:14:03.980 And do you have a social media handle? Do you have a Twitter handle?

00:14:07.360 I do not. I'm on LinkedIn, but I'm not on Twitter.

00:14:11.460 Okay. We'll get some people over to the website today.

00:14:16.540 Sir, thank you so much for joining us. I appreciate you.

00:14:19.420 Thank you.

00:14:22.640 Jim Rickard is still with us. Rickard is going to jump in here.

00:14:25.200 We got John Solomon. Big scoop coming out of Solomon.

00:14:29.200 I think we're starting to get close to the sharp end of the stick on this seditious conspiracy.

00:14:37.560 I'm feeling it now.

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00:17:01.100 As we told you, the most important thing everyone's working on, and the president has raised the stakes on this, is this seditious conspiracy investigation currently underway, John Solomon.

00:17:12.240 John, you broke pretty big blockbuster news last night, late at night, over at Just the News in Solomon, John Solomon Reports.

00:17:21.120 Walk us through what last night's scoop was, why it's important, and where it's going to lead to, sir.

00:17:27.260 We've been talking about a long time how much the legacy news media were a co-conspirator in the creating of false narratives that hampered American elections and hampered an American president.

00:17:36.820 Over the next few days, we're going to try to lay out how the media became so deeply involved.

00:17:42.560 And last night, we released our first example.

00:17:45.060 The FBI has known since 2017 that Adam Schiff was accused of leaking classified information by one of his own staffers.

00:17:53.420 A longtime Democrat staffer on the House Intelligence Committee went to the FBI four times between 2017 and 2023 to say that Adam Schiff, starting when he was ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, leaked classified information.

00:18:08.620 In fact, he was in a meeting.

00:18:11.080 He was in a meeting where Schiff authorized the leak of information.

00:18:15.380 Obviously, Schiff wouldn't do it himself.

00:18:16.800 He'd ask some of his people downstream from him.

00:18:18.820 That staffer told the FBI he considered Schiff's instructions to be illegal, unethical, and treasonous, the same word that Tulsi Gabbard first used a few weeks ago, despite having four interviews with this gentleman and getting very specific information from him.

00:18:35.560 And by the way, he was a career national security officer who got assigned to the House Intelligence Committee.

00:18:41.320 He leaned Democrat.

00:18:42.200 He was a Democrat by self-identification.

00:18:45.040 The FBI did nothing.

00:18:46.560 And I think that that is – how many times did we hear, oh, we're taking these leaks seriously?

00:18:51.580 We can't run them down.

00:18:52.820 In this case, they ran it down.

00:18:55.260 They could show from an eyewitness that Adam Schiff had approved classified leaks.

00:19:00.160 They chose – the Justice Department chose not to bring a prosecution.

00:19:03.700 So this is – and folks, when you get into the weeds here, which we're going to have to do, it's mind-blowing because the timeframe you said is 2017, and it's a Democratic staffer on the – he was on the House Intelligence Committee.

00:19:23.720 He was the ranking member, in fact.

00:19:25.160 Correct me if I'm wrong.

00:19:28.480 A guy named Donald John Trump was actually president of the United States, and there was an FBI director at that time that was removed, Comey.

00:19:38.500 But then another one that was approved, Ray.

00:19:41.360 Plus, Paul Ryan was speaker of the House.

00:19:44.560 Devin Nunes, he removed Devin Nunes, and remember, forced Devin Nunes to recuse himself and put Trey Gowdy in charge of the thing.

00:19:52.720 Those leaks that came out, wouldn't the Republicans immediately know that Schiff had basically leaked classified information, and this is what he went on TV every night and hammered President Trump about?

00:20:06.320 I mean this is not – what's shocking here is not that Schiff did it.

00:20:11.300 What's shocking is that you had a Democratic staffer that went to the FBI and said this is happening multiple times.

00:20:17.040 The FBI never informed the president of the United States.

00:20:19.260 And more importantly, Trey Gowdy and Paul Ryan are up to their neck in this thing.

00:20:24.440 You could have seen immediately – you would have seen immediately that this was classified documentation.

00:20:28.580 And I think what's going to come out is that people on the staff – I don't know, people like – I'm going to throw out some random names.

00:20:35.180 Kash Patel, the general counsel of the committee, and Derek Harvey and others warned people about what was happening.

00:20:41.760 So this scandal is horrible for Schiff, but there's a lot of blame to go around here about why this concerted effort by Paul Ryan, the Republican establishment, Trey Gowdy, Chris Wray, another Republican, why they were in on this to take down President Trump, sir.

00:21:00.040 Yeah, so as best we can tell, the majority staff was not fully alerted to the FBI's investigation.

00:21:07.900 It looks like this goes to some career official in the U.S. attorney's office on Donald Trump's watch, and it dies there.

00:21:13.760 So the questions that we all need to be asking, and we are asking right now, is what did Jeff Sessions, the attorney general, know?

00:21:20.120 What did Rod Rosenstein, the acting attorney general for All Matters Russia, know?

00:21:24.160 Because this was a Russia matter.

00:21:25.360 What did the U.S. attorney that Donald Trump appointed in Washington, D.C., know?

00:21:30.260 That's going to be something I'm almost certain the House Judiciary Committee is going to take on.

00:21:33.760 I'm going to be talking to Jim Jordan shortly.

00:21:35.680 We'll get on top of that.

00:21:37.440 But it may have died in the deep state.

00:21:39.840 One little hand may have pulled it in the U.S. attorney's office in Washington, D.C., put it in a closet, and nobody else knew about it until Kash Patel got to be FBI director and then dug these documents up.

00:21:50.400 Tonight, we're going to learn about a similar circumstance.

00:21:52.880 Tonight, we're going to learn about what James Comey's own inner circle, the people he trusted most in his inner circle, what they knew about leaks of classified information coming from the FBI, what they told the FBI and the Justice Department, Inspector General, and what the Justice Department did not do under President Trump and under President Biden to bring some form of accountability to those leaks.

00:22:15.800 You're seeing a pattern here.

00:22:18.300 The leaking of classified information was essentially sanctioned by a lack of accountability.

00:22:25.300 And the false stories allowed to stand because no one was arrested for the leaking of this information.

00:22:32.060 Now, let me remind people, most of the statutes on classified information are just five-year statute of limitations.

00:22:38.520 But there is one provision of the Espionage Act that extends the statute of limitations to 10 years, and that is knowing and willful leaking, meaning you authorized the leak.

00:22:48.440 You didn't accidentally do it.

00:22:49.960 You knowingly willfully.

00:22:50.940 Certainly, the whistleblower on Adam Schiff said it was knowing and willful, because Schiff even says at some point, or his staff says, don't worry about it, we'll be protected by the debate and speech clause of the Constitution.

00:23:02.700 So that does sound like it could lean into knowing and willful.

00:23:05.480 And the question for Pam Bondi is, are you going to look at this under the 10-year statute?

00:23:09.740 That's something we're asking today of the Justice Department right now.

00:23:12.320 John, you're an expert in this.

00:23:17.480 Given the story last night, the implications are, do you think this rises to the level of, for Schiff, let's just take Schiff, forget all the other, because there's so much other stuff going on, but just on Schiff and what you've reported, do you think that's the type of thing that you could see, particularly if they decide on the 10-year, that you could actually see indictments on?

00:23:38.780 It's possible.

00:23:39.580 I mean, the Justice Department will have to make a decision on whether the debate and speech clause protects a member from leaking something in his official capacity or her official capacity.

00:23:49.320 These are not the equities of the House Intelligence Committee.

00:23:52.920 These are federal executive branch equities, meaning the intelligence is owned by the executive branch.

00:23:57.380 So I think you can overcome the speech and debate clause in that circumstance.

00:24:01.880 But those are things that have to be worked through.

00:24:03.520 I think the other way to look at it is, is Adam Schiff now one of those co-conspirators in a long-running 10-year conspiracy against the American people and Donald Trump?

00:24:12.200 That's another way this could go.

00:24:14.560 And I think, you know, there's some big decisions ahead for Pambani.

00:24:17.340 You and I have been saying this.

00:24:18.680 The ball is in Pambani's case. 0.82

00:24:20.680 Kash Patel has teed up an extraordinary amount of evidence.

00:24:24.000 I don't think he even knew existed until he became FBI director.

00:24:27.360 All of his people are helping him.

00:24:29.180 All these career people have come out of the woodwork at the FBI to tell the dirty secrets of what was going on.

00:24:34.520 Now it's up to Pambani to decide how do you take all this evidence and get some real accountability.

00:24:40.160 We don't need another investigation.

00:24:42.020 We need real accountability.

00:24:43.580 Consequences.

00:24:45.960 Are you going to, the Comey situation, that will break tonight on Just the News?

00:24:51.380 We're working on it right now.

00:24:52.520 We'll hopefully have that out by the time we all go to bed, and we'll give you an update tomorrow on that.

00:24:58.480 And we've got a lot more stuff coming ahead, Steve.

00:25:00.740 And the other thing I've been working on this week, some jaw-dropping evidence of just how often the FBI and the Justice Department was protecting Hillary Clinton from real allegations of corruption.

00:25:11.880 We've seen some documents that have literally blown me away in terms of their specificity.

00:25:16.580 Later this week, we're going to lean into the Clinton Foundation and how much obstruction of justice occurred there.

00:25:22.520 Wow.

00:25:24.860 John, where do people get your content?

00:25:27.360 The show, podcast, all the different news sites, sir, and your social media?

00:25:31.740 You bet.

00:25:33.080 Absolutely.

00:25:34.080 JustinNews.com is a news site where we put all our stuff up, including the original documents.

00:25:37.840 You can look at them yourself.

00:25:38.920 You don't have to take my word for them.

00:25:40.520 And then Jay Solomon reports on social media handles.

00:25:43.200 And I'm lucky enough every night to follow you here at Real America's Voice at 6 o'clock with Justin News, No Noise, Amanda Head, and I.

00:25:49.280 Always grateful to have that handoff.

00:25:52.520 Great job, John.

00:25:53.860 Fantastic.

00:25:54.500 Thank you so much.

00:25:55.140 Look forward to seeing you tomorrow.

00:25:57.120 Sounds good, buddy.

00:25:58.260 Every day I think you're getting another bombshell.

00:26:00.700 This also goes back to this Paul Ryan forcing Devin Nunes to recuse himself and essentially shutting down cash as general counsel and Derek Harvey as chief investigator and essentially turning the House Intelligence Committee on President Trump's first term over to shift into Swalwell.

00:26:19.520 Swalwell, who we now know, was compromised by a Chinese Communist Party agent of influence.

00:26:27.860 This is the outrageous nature.

00:26:29.820 This is how it was fixed against President Trump.

00:26:32.300 This thing's going to get so nasty as the details come out.

00:26:35.760 Jim Rickards, we've got about a minute.

00:26:37.180 I'm going to hold you through, brother, your sense of where this investigation is going and how deep and how sorted it is, sir.

00:26:45.300 Well, a great job by John Salomon.

00:26:48.540 Now, John made the point there's a five-year statute on leaking classified information, but it's 10 years of its knowing and willful, et cetera.

00:26:55.520 That's a very powerful point.

00:26:56.760 But that is not the only way to extend the statute of limitations.

00:26:59.640 That's one way and an important way.

00:27:01.480 But if there's a conspiracy, the question is when do you start the statute of limitations?

00:27:05.920 Leave aside whether it's five years or seven years or 10 years.

00:27:08.520 When do you start the clock?

00:27:09.600 In a conspiracy, you start it from the last act, not the first act.

00:27:13.840 So the first act may have been in 2016 or 2017.

00:27:16.940 But if they were still conspiring and taking actions and having conversations, et cetera, in furtherance of that, as late as 2021 or 2022, et cetera, or even more recently, then throw five years on top of that.

00:27:29.120 So you're easily past today's date.

00:27:31.380 So I don't think statute of limitations is going to be much of a problem on these prosecutions.

00:27:35.820 Jim, hang on for a second.

00:27:39.440 I want to get your take on the Russia trap in the summit that we're going to have.

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00:29:43.240 So, Jim Merkerts, give me your assessment on the run-up to Alaska in this summit.

00:29:53.100 With everything John Solomon's showing daily and other reports are coming out about this conspiracy, a seditious conspiracy against President Trump.

00:30:01.940 President Trump said yesterday at the press conference, hey, it's kind of a sign of weakness.

00:30:07.220 We have a capital that's out of control with crime and degeneracy, but he's stepping in to take action on that.

00:30:14.000 Where do you think we sit?

00:30:15.040 And what are the things the audience should be looking for as we run up to the meeting on Friday in Alaska, sir?

00:30:21.660 Well, the one we already mentioned, Steve, is that this is much broader than Ukraine.

00:30:27.880 It involves basically all the security arrangements for Europe undoing or at least going beyond what was set up at the end of World War II.

00:30:36.240 The Russians, the Soviets at the time, disbanded the Warsaw Pact, but we never disbanded NATO.

00:30:41.340 I don't know how many Americans understand.

00:30:43.440 Article 5 in NATO says, you know, an attack on one member is an attack on all.

00:30:47.780 Okay.

00:30:48.380 So what does that mean?

00:30:49.460 So if Russia has some kind of attack on Estonia, and I'm not expecting that, it's not a forecast,

00:30:55.440 but we, the United States, are involved in a nuclear war with Russia because of a little corner of Estonia.

00:31:01.620 I mean, you know, I wish the Estonians well, but I don't think Americans understand what this expansion of NATO means to us

00:31:07.260 in terms of security against nuclear attacks.

00:31:09.620 I agree completely with George Beebe, and you made the point.

00:31:13.640 You know, it's an interesting debate what the Russians could do.

00:31:16.260 You know, there's no anti-missile defense against a rustic missile. 1.00

00:31:19.100 They go 10,000 miles an hour.

00:31:21.280 But the question is, what do they want to do?

00:31:23.780 And you and George got that right.

00:31:26.120 Basically, they want eastern Ukraine, and they're going to get it. 0.92

00:31:30.720 Putin will not agree to an unconditional ceasefire.

00:31:33.380 Why should he?

00:31:34.040 He's winning.

00:31:35.040 People say this is a stalemate.

00:31:36.080 This is not a stalemate.

00:31:36.940 The Russians have been methodically surrounding Prokhorovsk, which is a major logistics hub.

00:31:41.660 When they take Prokhorovsk, and they're close to doing it, the entire logistics, rail lines, roads, access, supplies, etc., for the Ukrainian eastern front will collapse.

00:31:52.000 And then there won't be much standing between the Russians and the Dniper River.

00:31:55.160 So, and by the way, the Ukrainians have lied about everything. 0.97

00:31:58.880 So if you gave them a ceasefire, what would they do?

00:32:00.840 They'd do R&R for their troops.

00:32:02.300 They would restock weapons.

00:32:04.160 They'd ask for more money, etc.

00:32:05.340 In other words, they wouldn't use the ceasefire in good faith to settle the conflict.

00:32:08.880 They would just use it to basically replenish their arsenals and keep fighting.

00:32:12.880 And, you know, the Russians and NATO, where the United States and others, we walked away from Minsk 1, Minsk 2.

00:32:19.580 We had the Maidan coup d'etat in 2014.

00:32:23.380 Everything the United States and its allies have done has been betrayal, the Russians. 1.00

00:32:28.160 And Putin even wore it for two or three lives and then finally said, you know, I'm tired of the lies, but we're just going to take action.

00:32:33.580 We're going to keep doing it.

00:32:34.800 So I hope that Putin and Trump, you know, rebuild.

00:32:39.320 They have an existing relationship.

00:32:40.480 I hope they can rebuild that.

00:32:41.340 There's a lot of good that could come out of it, but I wouldn't look for any breakthrough in Ukraine. 0.99

00:32:45.560 One quick note, Steve.

00:32:47.580 There's a connection to China here, a big one, because we're in the middle of this trade negotiation with China.

00:32:52.340 Trump just extended that, I forget, 30 or 50 days or whatever.

00:32:56.200 They were debating, you know, we have 30% tariffs on them.

00:32:59.940 They have 10 on us.

00:33:00.780 They're talking about taking that to 140 or whatever.

00:33:03.360 But China will not agree to a deal until we sort things out with Russia, because Trump has said,

00:33:09.060 if I can't get a ceasefire with Russia, I'm going to put secondary sanctions on China because they're doing business with Russia. 0.98

00:33:16.380 Why should China agree to anything if there's this, you know, hammer, you know, sword hanging over their heads? 0.86

00:33:21.780 So, so, so they won't.

00:33:23.760 So what Trump did, he bought time with China so he could talk to Putin, but he's not going to get what he wants from Putin.

00:33:29.100 And so I think Trump has painted himself into a corner on tariffs and ceasefire because he's listening to the warmongers.

00:33:38.140 By the way, you talk about that, the same great powers, geopolitical issues still faces today.

00:33:45.560 They face Richard Nixon back in the early 1970s when Richard Nixon did the rapprochement with the Chinese Communist Party and laid the predicate for Ronald Reagan later to bring down and destroy the evil empire. 0.59

00:33:59.560 Let's go ahead and play.

00:34:00.460 We've got an amazing film and two great people here to talk about.

00:34:03.920 Let's go ahead and play the trailer and I'll bring in Jeff Shepard and Michael Patrick Leahy.

00:34:07.920 49 states, 520 Electoral College votes, the largest presidential landslide in American history.

00:34:16.320 But less than halfway through his term in office, Richard Nixon was gone.

00:34:21.300 Secret meetings between judges and prosecutors, evidence hidden from defense attorneys, biased juries, an unaccountable prosecution force packed with political enemies,

00:34:33.420 congressional leaders who are out to get the president and a dishonest media.

00:34:37.920 All told, a corrupt judiciary, unaccountable prosecutors, and an overreaching Congress violated the due process rights of Richard Nixon and the Watergate defendants more than a dozen times.

00:34:51.120 We will document all those due process violations, something that no one else has ever done over the course of more than half a century.

00:35:00.140 This is how the deep state took down a president and created the playbook they've used ever since.

00:35:07.920 Okay, Michael Patrick Leahy and Jeff Shepard join us now.

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00:35:29.480 Amazing nonfiction film.

00:35:32.320 So, Leahy, let me start with you, and I'm going to get to Jeff.

00:35:35.500 We've had Jeff on a bunch of times.

00:35:37.840 The conventional wisdom is that the CIA, the FBI, Woodward and Bernstein, the Washington Post, all the president's men, Ben Bradley and Kay Graham, they took down Richard Nixon.

00:35:54.040 This takes a much more sophisticated look at actually how the deep state actually did it and actually took down Nixon.

00:36:00.720 And what's so haunting about this and the reason we're so proud to put it up for two weeks only for free to the War Room Posse, it really, I think, sends chills down your spine about how close this is to what they're trying to do to President Trump right now with this radical judiciary.

00:36:17.160 Your thoughts, sir?

00:36:19.200 It's a playbook, Steve, that worked in 1972, 73, 74 against Richard Nixon, but it was a very different world then.

00:36:28.540 It's the same playbook that they're trying to use against Donald Trump.

00:36:31.940 It's failed.

00:36:33.120 But we document the due process violations.

00:36:36.440 It's the first time anyone has ever put together what we call the dirty dozen due process violations that violated the Fifth and Sixth Amendment rights of Richard Nixon and all the Watergate defendants.

00:36:48.620 And the reason we were able to do this is because I interviewed Jeff Shepard, who had worked in the Nixon White House back in April of last year.

00:36:58.740 And when he revealed all this to me, I said to him, Jeff, can you document, put all this in a list and let's do a documentary on this?

00:37:09.220 And he provided all the evidence.

00:37:11.200 So I give all the credit to Jeff Shepard for working in the Nixon White House and having basically the receipts on these due process violations.

00:37:19.740 Jeff, when you say the due process violations, for those of us not lawyers, that seems it is the way they did it, but it's a little refined.

00:37:31.480 But what you bring up in the film is that you had Leon Jaworski, who's a quite controversial figure and actually links back to the Warren Commission, right?

00:37:41.820 You have Jaworski, you have the House, you have House Judiciary, they're having meetings, they have a blueprint.

00:37:48.920 You exposed all this by going into the archives because you were there as a young man.

00:37:52.740 And I guess you figured something was not right.

00:37:55.520 I mean, the way you connect the dots here between Judge Sirica, who's presented as a hero, the House Judiciary Committee, how they work together with the Justice Department.

00:38:05.100 This is why post-Watergate, the Justice Department was kind of hermetically sealed because these radicals could essentially control the legal process of the country.

00:38:15.240 I mean, how did you go, how many years did it take you to compile all this to show us that this was a vast conspiracy, a vast legal conspiracy against President Nixon?

00:38:27.480 Well, I've been at this for 20 years.

00:38:29.980 Of course, I lived through it 50 years ago, I was the youngest lawyer on President Nixon's Watergate defense team, and it ended badly.

00:38:38.360 We suspected things weren't going as they should.

00:38:42.460 But I started really looking into it about 20 years ago when I discovered that the Watergate Special Prosecution Force were really government employees.

00:38:52.300 So their records, those that survived, were kept at National Archives, and I've become a strong customer of the National Archives ever since.

00:39:01.420 But what really held things up, Steve, is the top four lawyers took their records with them when they left office, and they stayed unavailable to researchers and didn't even start to surface until 2013.

00:39:18.860 Just a little over 10 years ago, just a little over 10 years ago, the real dirt started to come out.

00:39:25.440 And this is like researching your family's genealogy.

00:39:30.380 If you find interesting stuff, it encourages you to look further and further and further.

00:39:36.280 And I've really been through this and uncovered an incredible paper trail.

00:39:42.600 Picture a triangle with each branch of government at the points.

00:39:47.800 There were people from each of the three branches secretly communicating, secretly meeting, secretly orchestrating Nixon's demise.

00:39:59.020 And it's three different federal judges and all the Watergate prosecutors, the politically recruited and appointed Watergate Special Prosecution Force,

00:40:10.060 and the congressional staff on the House Judiciary Committee.

00:40:13.940 And you put the puzzle together, and I grant you, you go off in the weeds because this gets really deep.

00:40:21.840 But what I was able to provide for Michael when he asked for help was to isolate 12 of the most important due process violations that occurred during the Watergate prosecutions.

00:40:37.180 And he did a brilliant job of making this understandable.

00:40:43.440 One of the things I've struggled with for 20 years is how to explain to people how this was pulled off.

00:40:51.320 And I've got the documents.

00:40:52.560 But the Watergate story is every bit complex back then as some of the stuff we're discovering going on today.

00:41:01.840 You've got to work really hard to pay attention and understand the interconnection and interplay.

00:41:09.100 And that's where this documentary makes it clear.

00:41:12.860 Michael has done really a superb job in focusing just on due process.

00:41:17.880 You know, we use the term, it's bandied about, everybody wants due process, it's in the Bill of Rights, the Fifth Amendment.

00:41:26.440 But nobody's quite sure what it is, because it's an amalgamation of a whole bunch of different decisions, much like the English common law.

00:41:38.220 People trying to figure out what was fair, what was the right way to do things.

00:41:43.740 And you have statutes, you have court decisions, you have the U.S. Attorney's Manual that all lay out what comes down to an effort to give defendants a fair trial.

00:41:58.540 And at least from my point of view, there are four characteristics.

00:42:02.080 You get an unbiased judge who's subjective and not picking on one side or the other.

00:42:10.840 You get even-handed nonpartisan prosecutors who don't invent new laws or new interpretations to target particular people.

00:42:21.580 You get a jury of your peers that is untainted by adverse publicity and not politically biased.

00:42:29.900 And, of course, the jury pooled in Watergate was all out of the District of Columbia, which is the most politically biased place in America.

00:42:39.380 And finally, you get a right of appeal to an appellate court that's equally unbiased.

00:42:45.120 But the Watergate defendants got none of these things, absolutely none.

00:42:49.680 We picked out, Michael and I, the 12 most important due process violations.

00:42:56.180 But your viewers can go through it and watch the movie and say, well, gee, I think I understand that one.

00:43:03.920 I didn't realize that that was a requirement.

00:43:06.880 Or, gee whiz, imagine the judges meeting in secret.

00:43:12.180 Yeah.

00:43:13.500 Jeff, hang on for a second.

00:43:15.000 I'm going to hold you guys through the break.

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00:45:12.920 This is how the deep state took down a president and created the playbook they've used ever since.

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00:45:22.880 Many things you thought, and particularly with the Woodward and everything like that, you're about to see the real way they took down Richard Nixon and the template for how they ran the Justice Department for 50 years afterwards and how they tried to come after President Trump.

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00:45:47.120 The guys are going to be back with him more.

00:45:48.520 Until then, Michael Patrick.

00:45:49.720 Thank God you went to law school.

00:45:52.180 Leahy's got like nine degrees, but he's had to go get a law degree at his advanced age, night school.

00:45:57.760 Leahy, what's your social media?

00:45:58.840 Where do people go and get you, sir, in your radio show?

00:46:01.960 The radio show is michaelpatricklahe.com.

00:46:04.620 The very best way to get the latest on this is go to my ex-account, Michael P. Leahy.

00:46:10.320 Michael P. Leahy will be putting clips out, and also, for your information, clips of this will be available at the Nixon Foundation later this week as well.

00:46:21.500 Wow.

00:46:22.340 Wow.

00:46:22.860 Amazing.

00:46:23.880 Jeff Shepard, you are just an American patriot and a hero, sir, for doing this work over this many years.

00:46:30.120 Where do people go on your social media to get you, sir, and where do they get your books?

00:46:34.320 Well, they want to go to my website.

00:46:35.800 All the books, all the publications, all the documents, they're right out there on my website, reproduced.

00:46:42.100 www.shepardonwatergate.com.

00:46:47.680 Shepardonwatergate.com.

00:46:49.200 You see everything.

00:46:50.380 Got to have a lot of time.

00:46:51.480 It gets very, very deep in the weeds, but every document is reproduced on that website.

00:46:59.100 Thank you, brother.

00:46:59.920 No, people want the receipts because this illuminates what is going on now, and this is why the big fight at the Justice Department.

00:47:07.000 This is why we're playing two nights, the PBS special about President Trump and the rule of law.

00:47:11.880 It ties directly to this movie, particularly when Trump went down to the sacred temple.

00:47:16.940 Remember, their heads blew up.

00:47:18.100 The feedback we've gotten for showing that last night at 6 in the second parts tonight has been overwhelming.

00:47:24.380 It's been incredible.

00:47:25.260 Wait till you get this film, though, to add to it.

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00:47:28.740 Guys, we'll see you tomorrow back here in the War Room.

00:47:31.660 Thanks, Steve.

00:47:32.260 Rickards, you're also a lawyer.

00:47:35.860 Give me your thoughts here, brother, and thoughts on the coming week.

00:47:39.580 We're going to have you back on to the end of the week when they get to Alaska.

00:47:43.860 Your observations, sir.

00:47:46.280 Well, the film sounds great.

00:47:47.620 I'll have a chance to watch it tonight.

00:47:49.360 I'd like to add kind of a poignant footnote to everything they talked about.

00:47:53.600 So Jeff and Michael were talking about due process, Fifth Amendment, 14th Amendment in some cases.

00:47:58.860 Absolutely.

00:47:59.360 That's a great template.

00:48:00.140 But let's go deeper.

00:48:01.700 Let's talk about Article 2.

00:48:03.560 Because four years after Nixon resigned, sorry, three years after Nixon resigned, in 1977, he did an interview with David Frost.

00:48:10.880 And, of course, everybody wanted to hear Nixon's, oh, yeah, he really did break the law and all that stuff.

00:48:15.500 And they talked about a lot else.

00:48:17.180 It wasn't all about Watergate.

00:48:18.580 But in the end, Nixon got around to saying, yeah, maybe we did something wrong here.

00:48:23.960 But then he said something that was profound.

00:48:26.000 He said, when the president does it, it's not illegal.

00:48:31.060 And those were his exact words.

00:48:32.660 And everyone was like, yeah, there goes Nixon again.

00:48:34.320 He's rationalizing.

00:48:35.200 He won't admit he did it, et cetera, et cetera.

00:48:37.400 But now, flash forward 47 years.

00:48:41.000 2024.

00:48:42.200 Trump versus United States at the Supreme Court.

00:48:45.320 What did the Supreme Court say?

00:48:46.860 They said, when the president does it, it's not illegal.

00:48:49.880 Now, it had to be core duties.

00:48:50.940 There were a couple guardrails around it.

00:48:53.580 But it basically confirmed what Nixon said.

00:48:55.920 Nixon was a very good lawyer, by the way.

00:48:57.600 So 47 years had to go by before the Supreme Court said that basically if the president does it, the Congress cannot make the president a criminal because of separation of powers.

00:49:09.400 And so it's actually bigger than due process, although due process is included.

00:49:13.660 Nixon was right.

00:49:15.240 He was ridiculed at the time.

00:49:16.640 The Supreme Court basically validated that.

00:49:19.340 By the way, when the Supreme Court gave that opinion, they weren't saying starting now.

00:49:23.100 They said, this is what the Constitution said in 1789.

00:49:25.800 So, as I said, Nixon was right, didn't do much good.

00:49:30.100 But I would keep that in mind through all of this because it really is a profound and somewhat poignant point.

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00:49:49.840 Jim, thank you so much.

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00:49:58.580 So we appreciate you, sir.

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Bannon's War Room - August 12, 2025

Episode 4700： The Russian Trap; How The Deep State Took Down Nixon

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