Bannon's War Room - August 22, 2025


Episode 4727: Tearing Apart The Intelligence Community


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54 minutes

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159.58035

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8,645

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603

Misogynist Sentences

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Summary

Stephen K. Bannon, Peter Navarro, Mike Ben Shapiro, and Sam Faddis join host Natalie Winters to discuss the latest in the ongoing saga of the raid on John Bolton's office at the White House.


Transcript

00:00:00.660 So putting the pieces together, what are the implications for monetary policy?
00:00:06.600 In the near term, risks to inflation are tilted to the upside and risks to employment to
00:00:11.720 the downside, a challenging situation.
00:00:15.340 When our goals are intentioned like this, our framework calls for us to balance both
00:00:19.180 sides of our dual mandate.
00:00:21.600 Our policy rate is now 100 basis points closer to neutral than it was a year ago.
00:00:27.560 And the stability of the unemployment rate and other labor market measures allows us
00:00:32.380 to proceed carefully as we consider changes to our policy stance.
00:00:36.800 Nonetheless, with policy in restrictive territory, the baseline outlook and the shifting balance
00:00:42.280 of risks may warrant adjusting our policy stance.
00:00:47.840 Monetary policy is not on a preset course.
00:00:50.520 FOMC members will make these decisions based solely on their assessment of the data and
00:00:55.980 its implications for the economic outlook and the balance of risks.
00:01:00.320 We will never deviate from that approach.
00:01:02.800 ...any given moment.
00:01:04.860 But I don't think he cared about the classification system.
00:01:08.100 I don't think he appreciated the sensitivity of this information.
00:01:13.160 And he didn't appreciate the sensitivity of how it was often acquired, the so-called sources
00:01:18.600 and methods.
00:01:19.840 So this had been briefed to him before I arrived.
00:01:22.820 It was repeated frequently.
00:01:24.400 I think it simply had no impact on him, whatever.
00:01:27.660 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:01:34.480 Pray for our enemies.
00:01:36.540 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:01:39.480 Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:01:43.980 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:01:45.980 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:01:47.480 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop
00:01:49.820 it.
00:01:50.820 It's going to happen.
00:01:51.820 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:01:54.820 MAGA media.
00:01:55.820 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:02:01.800 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:02:05.440 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:02:11.480 Here in the war room, it's Friday, August 22nd in the year of our Lord, 2025, Natalie
00:02:25.940 Winters hosting, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon.
00:02:29.060 We've got a packed show.
00:02:30.660 We are awaiting the one and only Peter Navarro at the White House.
00:02:33.640 We got Mike Benz, Sam Faddis, and an update from the West Coast, why they need what President
00:02:39.760 Trump is doing here in D.C. while we wait for the one and only Dr. Navarro, Mike Benz,
00:02:46.180 I want to bring you on.
00:02:47.260 I wanted to get your sort of assessment and scoop of everything that happened this morning
00:02:53.040 with John Bolton and why you think he is, you know, potentially of interest, shall we
00:02:59.820 say, to law enforcement.
00:03:02.260 Well, we don't have any details about what the raid entailed.
00:03:06.220 But given the dispute between John Bolton and the Trump administration around the potentially
00:03:14.720 classified information in John Bolton's book that John Bolton put in there against the
00:03:25.980 disputes of the Trump administration, it's quite possible.
00:03:30.440 Well, I think signs are leading currently, the leading theory of the raid is that there
00:03:36.080 may be classified information at his home and that this was, in a way, kind of similar
00:03:42.820 to the kind of raids that the Biden administration was doing on Trump officials for that sort
00:03:48.620 of thing.
00:03:49.060 But John Bolton is, you know, quite an interesting character to be, if that is indeed what happened,
00:03:56.820 it's a bit ironic given that John Bolton had made those accusations against President Trump
00:04:04.460 of mishandling classified documents.
00:04:07.100 And there is a question whether, if that is indeed the case, if that is what the raid was
00:04:12.340 about.
00:04:12.700 There is the question of potential prosecutions.
00:04:17.840 And I just want to make this point up front, which is that there is the same problem with
00:04:23.840 prosecutions of blob officials who have committed criminal wrongdoing in D.C., which is the D.C.
00:04:30.680 jury pool.
00:04:32.120 And I believe that if Donald Trump, if President Trump and Vice President J.D.
00:04:37.580 Vance, put out a call for 100,000 people who are centrist or independent or conservative
00:04:44.760 to move to Washington, D.C.
00:04:47.040 in order to change the composition of D.C.
00:04:49.720 jury pools, it would only take about 100,000 people to substantially change D.C.
00:04:54.720 jury pools.
00:04:56.140 And I'm living in Washington, D.C.
00:04:58.640 now.
00:04:59.140 I've lived here several times.
00:05:00.720 It's always been a 95 percent Democrat city, which means it's always been a 95 percent
00:05:06.980 Democrat jury pool, which means it's very difficult to actually hold uniparty officials
00:05:13.240 responsible for crimes.
00:05:17.160 We saw this in the classified documents case about Joe Biden himself.
00:05:21.680 If folks recall, while the Justice Department was doing the pre-dawn raid of Mar-a-Lago and
00:05:27.180 indicting President Trump for mishandling classified documents, the Justice Department then suffered
00:05:33.360 a very embarrassing quandary, which was that then sitting President Joe Biden was found
00:05:40.680 to have had classified documents at his home and had had mishandled them, too.
00:05:45.860 And then Special Prosecutor Robert Herr argued in a memo that the Justice Department should
00:05:54.320 not bring the case against against President Biden, even though he had committed the same
00:06:00.160 alleged underlying crime as President Trump, because a D.C.
00:06:04.880 jury would find that he would be senile and genteel and would not want him to send him away
00:06:11.560 to spend his final days in a prison cell.
00:06:15.060 So it was the same crime, the same facts of the case.
00:06:19.500 But one person got indicted and the other person didn't just because of the issue of the jury
00:06:25.960 pool.
00:06:26.320 So I believe if the Trump administration can turn D.C. into Miami, so to speak, Miami recently
00:06:37.080 turned red in the past four years.
00:06:39.980 It's Miami-Dade County is now a red county.
00:06:42.320 If there can be a call, an immigration to D.C., if for nothing else, to help the Justice
00:06:53.000 Department be able to have a, be able to actually bring justice to Washington, D.C., I think that
00:07:00.000 would move mountains.
00:07:02.540 And speaking of the DOJ, I know it's just sort of breaking, but that they released the transcript
00:07:07.600 of Todd Blanche's interview with Ghislaine Maxwell.
00:07:10.720 Of course, the media focusing in that the DOJ did ask her about President Trump's potential
00:07:16.240 connections to Epstein, which she repeatedly said there were none.
00:07:19.700 She never saw him receive a massage or do anything, shall we say, untoward.
00:07:24.360 But I'm curious, you've been sort of going through it.
00:07:26.740 I've been seeing your ex.
00:07:27.820 What's your sort of assessment of what's contained there?
00:07:30.560 Well, one thing that's fascinating is she point blank tells the Justice Department, quote,
00:07:37.200 I was part of the beginning process of the Clinton Global Initiative.
00:07:41.480 And then she goes on to say that she believes Jeffrey Epstein actually funded the Clinton
00:07:47.300 Global Initiative and that they came up with the idea together while on a trip to Davos.
00:07:53.100 Now, we know that this lines up with the exact start of the Clinton Foundation in 2002 was
00:07:59.800 exactly when Jeffrey Epstein was flying President Clinton around personally as kind of aerial
00:08:06.000 chauffeur around Africa.
00:08:08.380 I think they went to five different countries in Africa together publicly.
00:08:12.520 And this was actually part of the process that I think brought Jeffrey Epstein a little
00:08:16.220 bit too close to the sun was when he was personally flying President Clinton around while President
00:08:21.880 Clinton was setting up the Clinton Foundation.
00:08:24.220 And we know that what the Clinton Foundation was doing was essentially pay to play while Hillary
00:08:30.300 Clinton was making her rise in New York Senate politics and then into the Secretary of State.
00:08:37.740 And while they had all this clout and connections and pull within the Democrat Party, that they
00:08:43.640 could essentially sell U.S. foreign policy to foreign donors and to big corporations so
00:08:49.900 that they could essentially, instead of doing things in the national interest, have the State
00:08:55.120 Department, the Defense Department, the CIA, USAID, essentially twist the governance and
00:09:02.220 policies of foreign countries using the battering ram of the American diplomacy and war and trade
00:09:10.180 machine in order to profit the people who personally paid the Clintons for those favors.
00:09:16.300 And so this is totally in line with what I think is the most persuasive theory of the case on Epstein,
00:09:23.380 which is that he was a money bundler.
00:09:26.720 He helped in the structuring of these complex, faux-philanthropic influence machines.
00:09:34.620 He was a dealmaker, and it looks like he was part of the dealmaking that went into the origins of the Clinton Foundation,
00:09:45.120 which we're now learning as well.
00:09:47.520 The Justice Department shut down the FBI investigation, and two, three different FBI investigations in the
00:09:53.780 Clinton Foundation were shut down.
00:09:55.160 And the IRS investigation was shut down, we're told now, because the IRS claimed they did not have
00:10:02.480 enough resources to investigate the Clinton Foundation.
00:10:05.700 Evidently, the fraud there was so massive, the IRS's defense to get out of political cronyism
00:10:12.280 is that, I guess, the fraud was too big to jail.
00:10:15.720 They simply couldn't take it on.
00:10:18.840 And, Mike, I want to sort of bring this back to the broader discussion, I think, of how these foreign
00:10:23.020 governments are sort of co-opting a lot of our domestic policy.
00:10:26.280 Obviously, on the censorship front, we've seen the U.K. do a lot there.
00:10:30.400 But yesterday, we ran out of time, but you had some updates on how foreign governments are
00:10:34.820 sort of exploiting some censorship loopholes.
00:10:36.760 Are there some movement on that front?
00:10:39.560 Yes, this is now escalating dramatically.
00:10:43.300 See, what happened was, this started as a transatlantic censorship apparatus.
00:10:49.520 It grew out of NATO initially as a response to losing Crimea in eastern Ukraine.
00:10:55.160 And then it moved westward to Western Europe after the Brexit referendum.
00:11:01.860 And then it moved finally to the United States in 2016 when Donald Trump won in that same DOD,
00:11:09.100 CIA, USAID, State Department network brought that apparatus to the United States.
00:11:13.940 But as we've gotten more and more victories here in the United States against the censorship machine,
00:11:20.700 as we have cracked down on the funding arms and the funding spigots from the U.S. government,
00:11:27.680 hundreds of millions of dollars, and I think the audience should be mindful of this.
00:11:31.620 We've achieved huge wins in just seven months in the Trump administration,
00:11:36.560 cutting hundreds of millions of dollars out of the NGOs and pressure cookers in the private sector
00:11:44.560 that were pushing the tech companies to censor people.
00:11:48.420 And so if you've experienced a lot more freedom on the Internet lately,
00:11:51.540 it's not just because of Elon Musk, although he played the indispensable role in this, undoubtedly,
00:11:57.640 but there's much less pressure on Facebook and on YouTube and on other organs from the U.S. government.
00:12:06.860 The response to this from the censors in exile in the United States
00:12:11.580 and their allies in ruling governments around the world has been to internationalize the issue,
00:12:18.480 to take it upstream of the United States to the international community.
00:12:22.620 And what they're now plotting and which has gone into effect,
00:12:25.640 and we're now seeing the beginning volleys of,
00:12:28.780 are you have foreign countries asserting global jurisdiction over websites on the Internet in countries far, far away?
00:12:36.000 So right now the U.K. is actually fining the website 4chan $20,000 a day.
00:12:43.680 So you add that up over a year, and this is very serious money.
00:12:49.040 4chan is a U.S. website.
00:12:51.140 It has nothing to do with the U.K.
00:12:52.900 This might as well be on the moon.
00:12:56.980 If 4chan was operated on a military base on the surface of the moon,
00:13:02.940 imagine the U.K. government fining it for allowing speech that Brits can access through a VPN.
00:13:11.520 This is a way of getting long-arm jurisdiction over American speech.
00:13:15.600 And make no mistake, this was the plan from the beginning.
00:13:19.040 The U.K. Digital Ministry and the U.K. Foreign Office,
00:13:23.180 as well as their little honchos and MI6 and the U.K. Ministry of Defense,
00:13:27.800 sent over a delegation to the Biden administration
00:13:30.660 and personally briefed them on how they can work together
00:13:34.660 to censor their mutual opponents on both sides of the Atlantic.
00:13:38.860 The America First Legal, Stephen Miller and Gene Hamilton's legal shop,
00:13:45.600 did an amazing job getting access to these documents.
00:13:49.180 They explicitly plotted to get to censor American speech with foreign censorship laws.
00:13:56.160 And the American censors in exile are champing at the bit
00:13:59.360 as a way for them to get their old jobs back in the censorship industry
00:14:03.120 and their old funding back from the government funding mechanisms
00:14:08.540 that allowed them to do this all with our money.
00:14:12.020 So this is now happening in the U.K.
00:14:14.100 It's happening in the EU through the EU Digital Services Act.
00:14:18.640 And it's happening in Brazil.
00:14:20.940 And this is now, essentially,
00:14:25.060 it's gone beyond what we can do within our own borders
00:14:29.340 to stop Internet censorship.
00:14:31.080 This is now a job for the State Department
00:14:33.400 and for our international influence branch
00:14:37.700 in order to stop the enforcement of this
00:14:40.480 through tariffs, sanctions, security policy renegotiations.
00:14:45.900 I believe we may need to threaten leaving NATO if this escalates.
00:14:50.880 Mike, if you can hang with us through the break.
00:14:53.360 Perfect pause, but I want to double down on that.
00:14:55.540 We'll be right back.
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00:17:56.840 We still have Mike Benz with us.
00:18:00.040 We've also got Sam Faddis, and we're awaiting Dr. Navarro.
00:18:03.720 But Mike, just to sort of wrap up directionally where you think we're going on the Bolton front,
00:18:11.140 what you think we need to really be paying attention to,
00:18:14.260 and you can sort of wrap up your censorship thoughts.
00:18:16.640 Yes.
00:18:18.120 So to me, what's happening on the John Bolton front, remember, he was the national security
00:18:23.400 advisor as well.
00:18:24.900 He was also the head of policy and budget for USAID, fascinatingly.
00:18:29.520 John Bolton was also the person who almost single-handedly, well, I guess he had a little help from his
00:18:37.920 friends, but he played a major part in getting us involved in the Iraq war, reportedly threatened
00:18:44.580 the head of the OPCW, the chemical weapons folks who tried to bring Iraq into that in order to try to—he
00:18:54.940 ousted them—ousted the head of that, threatened his family and children in order to ensure that the U.S.
00:19:02.080 had a war predicate to get the U.S. into the Iraq war.
00:19:05.880 But a lot of this comes down to the restructuring and accountability of the intelligence community,
00:19:11.220 which, of course, as the national security advisor, John Bolton, was the senior official
00:19:15.680 over that whole portfolio.
00:19:18.780 And what we saw this week as well was the ODNI director, Tulsi Gabbard, announcing a massive
00:19:25.440 restructuring of ODNI, laying off 40 percent, I believe, of the staff within ODNI and dramatically
00:19:35.640 downscaling and narrowing its role, citing bureaucratic bloat and a departure from its core mission.
00:19:44.000 I think a lot of folks, when they initially saw that ODNI was going to have a massive staff
00:19:50.920 reduction, saw that as being a kind of reduction of her powers.
00:19:57.580 This, I believe, came from Senator Tom Cotton, who's the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee
00:20:02.560 currently.
00:20:03.620 But this does appear to be the thing that Tulsi wanted.
00:20:06.800 And you can see how, to the extent that ODNI is obstructed from the inside by a vast bureaucratic
00:20:13.340 class who is not carrying out orders, who is working across purposes, that this could
00:20:18.860 be a way to really streamline the efficiency as they continue their DIG transparency effort.
00:20:26.960 But at the end of the day, you basically have two methods of accountability, three methods
00:20:30.740 of accountability.
00:20:31.320 You have mass terminations, you have defunding, you have declassifications, and then I guess
00:20:38.620 the fourth would be the criminal arrests.
00:20:40.440 And I do want to stress that while we've made so many strides in reforms to these government
00:20:47.720 institutions, at the end of the day, the Justice Department, it does need to deal with that
00:20:53.480 D.C. jury phenomenon.
00:20:55.300 And I just want to reiterate to any members of the administration who are listening that I
00:21:02.600 do believe a public call to stack D.C. with conservatives so that the jury pool is even
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00:21:19.800 that it needs within the community of peers of these national security officials who've
00:21:25.180 gone rogue so that they actually get a fair trial and not a rigged one where they will
00:21:31.160 be declared innocent and even having committed crimes and the DOJ will be permanently hamstrung.
00:21:38.700 This is the problem when you have all these federal government offices headquartered in D.C.
00:21:46.580 and D.C. is the home turf of lobsters.
00:21:51.180 I think if there was essentially a kind of jobs program or something to entice people to
00:21:58.900 move to D.C. to change that phenomenon, you would have a completely different administration
00:22:03.980 of justice in terms of our federal offices.
00:22:07.460 Mike Benz, as always, thank you for laying everything out for us.
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00:22:22.960 Thank you, sir, for joining us.
00:22:27.460 We are joined now, I guess, kind of picking up where we left off by the one and only Sam
00:22:31.840 Faddis, who has a great new sub stack piece up.
00:22:34.860 Tearing apart the intelligence community is the easy part.
00:22:37.740 It's the rebuilding it that will be the challenge.
00:22:41.200 Obviously, Director Gabbard announced that they're going to be reorganizing, significantly
00:22:45.700 slimming down the ODNI.
00:22:48.180 Can you sort of walk us through what the announced changes are and just walk us through your piece?
00:22:54.620 Right.
00:22:55.200 Well, when the Director of National Intelligence was created, when the Office of Director of
00:23:00.460 National Intelligence was created after 9-11, the idea was you were supposed to have this
00:23:04.640 small staff that would theoretically help all these agencies to talk to each other and
00:23:10.860 coordinate because supposedly 9-11 was a failure in communication.
00:23:16.780 There are a lot of other issues behind 9-11.
00:23:19.760 But in any event, you were supposed to have a very small staff and a director and just coordinate
00:23:25.360 things.
00:23:25.780 It, of course, in classic Washington fashion, ballooned into this monstrosity, just, you
00:23:32.420 know, duplication of effort, layers upon layers of bureaucrats.
00:23:35.700 So the current DNI, Tulsi Gabbard, has been very clear since she got in that she's not letting
00:23:42.240 that stand.
00:23:43.280 And she is making significant cuts.
00:23:45.400 And this is the biggest cut she has made so far.
00:23:48.220 And it's, you know, it is a good start.
00:23:51.440 I support it wholeheartedly.
00:23:54.560 The point of the article was to say, it is a good start, but that is all it is.
00:24:00.780 And that's not a knock on the DNI.
00:24:02.660 She knows that.
00:24:05.200 And I, you know, you have a bloated apparatus.
00:24:09.860 And again, as I often do to focus on CIA, since I'm closest to that, it is bloated.
00:24:17.200 It is, has clearly involved itself, senior members, in all sorts of things now for many
00:24:24.200 years that it should not have done.
00:24:27.200 And that's too mild.
00:24:29.040 Illegal actions and unconstitutional actions.
00:24:31.920 So that is clear.
00:24:33.980 But at the same time, the actual mission that it is supposed to be accomplishing, collecting
00:24:40.140 intelligence abroad, conducting covert action, when the president directs it to, pursuant
00:24:47.780 to federal law, it doesn't do those things very well anymore.
00:24:54.260 John Brennan took point on this and effectively destroying its effectiveness.
00:25:01.780 And it is now run largely by guys and gals who were not operations officers like I was.
00:25:08.780 In other words, they're not spies in common parlance.
00:25:12.260 They didn't run ops.
00:25:13.520 They haven't spent their careers abroad.
00:25:15.980 They're government bureaucrats.
00:25:17.420 They've hardly ever left Northern Virginia.
00:25:19.340 Uh, and they have no idea what they're doing beyond, again, the political things they've
00:25:27.560 been involved in that clearly they should not be involved in.
00:25:31.220 So it's not just cutting slots and getting rid of people.
00:25:37.620 Uh, we need to make sure, first of all, we cut the right people and retain the right people.
00:25:43.360 But then we have to understand that that whole apparatus, and it goes beyond CIH,
00:25:49.340 and it's true of all the other agencies, is broken in the broken in the sense that it
00:25:55.040 cannot perform the mission that it's actually supposed to perform.
00:26:01.400 So it's, it is not, it's not like we're going to fire X number of people and then everything
00:26:08.680 will be good.
00:26:09.740 It has to be rebuilt.
00:26:12.000 And right now, unfortunately, a lot of the senior leadership there has no idea how to do
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00:29:37.300 War Room.
00:29:38.140 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:29:40.220 Bannon.
00:29:44.820 Welcome back to The War Room.
00:29:47.440 We are still joined by Sam Faddis.
00:29:50.760 Sam, I'm just curious.
00:29:51.800 I was sort of perusing the legacy media's reaction to the announced changes from Director Gabbard.
00:29:58.140 And they, of course, are taking the playbook that it's going to leave America less safe.
00:30:02.000 I guess presupposing that the people she's axing were doing anything meaningful, like you alluded
00:30:07.140 to sort of bureaucratic blob overreach.
00:30:10.440 I'm just curious what your pushback on that front would be.
00:30:12.900 Yeah, well, that's crap to use a technical term.
00:30:17.520 I mean, look, it's predictable, and that's what they're going to say about any change.
00:30:22.160 I mean, nobody in the real world wants to get lost in the intricacies of how CIA is structured.
00:30:28.340 But just to put some meat on the bones of what I just said, it used to be, I mean, CIA exists
00:30:34.280 basically to recruit sources, to recruit spies inside target organizations like Al Qaeda and
00:30:39.260 produce intelligence.
00:30:40.580 And then to conduct covert action when the president signs a finding and gives them the legal authority
00:30:45.680 to do so.
00:30:46.180 OK, all of that is run by operations, the Directorate of Operations, known as the DO.
00:30:51.600 So basically, CIA used to be built around the DO.
00:30:56.100 And the guy who ran the Directorate of Operations, the DDO, was the heart and soul, the guy that
00:31:02.640 fought the ship.
00:31:04.420 OK, and they obviously have a director that sits at the top of this.
00:31:08.080 But in terms of ops, that's how this worked.
00:31:11.040 And everybody else was, to use a military term, a supporting arm.
00:31:14.680 In other words, they provided the money, they provided the logistics, whatever.
00:31:18.680 OK, Brennan destroyed all of that.
00:31:21.940 He mashed everybody together into these mission centers with analysts and operators and other
00:31:28.120 people with no discernible skills, all in these amorphous blobs, often run by people who
00:31:37.860 aren't operators.
00:31:38.880 So just some guy who left Northern Virginia is now in charge of running the ops against
00:31:44.480 a particular target.
00:31:46.060 And then those people don't report to the head of operations anymore.
00:31:49.740 They report directly like they're a shoe company to a guy called the chief operating officer,
00:31:56.940 the coup, straight out of corporate lexicon, right?
00:32:00.360 Who is never an operator.
00:32:02.160 In fact, the first coup was a guy they hired out of private business.
00:32:08.680 So the guy who basically supposed to be running all the operations worldwide came from, I think,
00:32:14.780 an investment firm and had no background.
00:32:18.120 So you have complete, in addition to the issues everybody's familiar with, you know, interfering
00:32:23.220 in American domestic politics, you have deprofessionalized the whole organization.
00:32:30.100 It is a mess and it is incapable of doing what it's actually supposed to do.
00:32:38.000 So back to my point, just cutting numbers out of there and leaving it in this same completely
00:32:46.300 combat ineffective status makes no sense.
00:32:50.280 If you're going to do that, then just shut it down.
00:32:52.320 Because right now it is literally incapable of doing its job.
00:32:57.400 And, you know, at this point, many Americans would be like, okay, just get rid of it.
00:33:01.200 Well, you know, unfortunately, there are still bad guys out there planning on trying to get
00:33:06.080 nuclear weapons into New York City and detonate them in Manhattan.
00:33:09.800 That's for real.
00:33:11.340 So you kind of need somebody who actually knows what they're doing.
00:33:15.420 And right now we don't have that.
00:33:17.120 Before I let you go, I just want to get your thoughts on what happened earlier today.
00:33:23.800 I saw the clip of John Bolton returning home.
00:33:27.180 He didn't look too happy.
00:33:29.020 We played earlier in the show his commentary about how no one is above the law.
00:33:33.480 And when President Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence was raided that it was, you know, a fitting
00:33:37.480 carriage of justice.
00:33:39.280 I wonder how those words age, how he's feeling about them now.
00:33:43.300 But your thoughts generally on what transpired this morning, and I know we're still sort
00:33:48.520 of unclear what exactly it was about.
00:33:50.280 Maybe we'll hear more tonight.
00:33:52.060 But what exactly do you think is going on there?
00:33:55.480 Well, you know, what I think is going on is this is not a revenge ride.
00:34:00.260 This is not the, you know, the MAGA movement now going out and doing the same thing to the
00:34:05.660 other side that was done to them.
00:34:06.960 This is the FBI and DOJ picking up an investigation that was ongoing into Bolton when Biden came
00:34:17.500 to into power.
00:34:19.500 And as soon as he did, he directed that the investigation be shut down.
00:34:25.480 And the investigation was into issues surrounding the use of and disclosure of classified information.
00:34:31.960 And as I understand it, the basic backstory is Biden went out when he left the Trump White
00:34:37.060 House in the first term.
00:34:38.040 He was fired up, angry.
00:34:41.640 He decided to write a book saying all kinds of things.
00:34:44.920 And he had to submit it for publication review, which everybody does if you've had access to
00:34:51.280 classified information.
00:34:52.640 I've written six books.
00:34:53.720 I submitted them all and went through this process.
00:34:57.100 Biden decided, I mean, Bolton decided at some point he didn't like the results of the process.
00:35:02.220 It was taking too long.
00:35:03.700 And he did not agree with the cuts they were saying he had to make.
00:35:09.240 So as I understand it, he basically blew off the process and went ahead and published a book with
00:35:17.460 information in it that he had been told was classified and could not be disclosed.
00:35:24.840 So we are now picking up an investigation that, you know, should have been completed years ago
00:35:33.260 and wasn't because of political influence, uh, interference, whether the guy will actually
00:35:38.840 be charged, whether he will be prosecuted in prison.
00:35:43.240 At this point, nobody knows because at this point they have not arrested him.
00:35:47.780 All they did was go through his house and take some things out of it.
00:35:50.840 Can you just walk us through one more time?
00:35:54.400 Because obviously we've seen the legacy media coverage, making it seem like this is some
00:35:57.900 witch hunt, some form of retribution to use a word that they certainly became apoplectic
00:36:02.780 over.
00:36:03.260 But this is essentially just resuming something that Biden through political motives and means
00:36:07.920 halted, if I'm not misunderstanding it.
00:36:10.700 That is precisely the case.
00:36:13.120 And also let's just underline this.
00:36:15.480 There's no ambiguity about classified information, right?
00:36:19.920 You know, when I was working at the CIA, I didn't just stuff some files in my suit jacket
00:36:25.400 at the end of the day and accidentally bring them home, right?
00:36:29.700 I mean, classified information lives on classified electronic systems, or if it's hard copy, it
00:36:37.120 lives in safes and inside controlled alarm spaces with guards.
00:36:42.940 So you can't just accidentally, John, have a bunch of stuff that's classified sitting around
00:36:52.340 in your house.
00:36:53.220 That doesn't happen.
00:36:55.000 In fact, just taking it out of classified space, even if you're not spying for it, just
00:37:01.440 the fact that you did that is already a crime.
00:37:04.460 And people have been sent to prison for that.
00:37:07.020 Just that.
00:37:07.620 Sam Faddis, if people want to follow you, read the Substack, the magazine, where can
00:37:13.940 they go to do all that?
00:37:16.060 And magazine at Substack.
00:37:17.620 So that's andmagazine.substack.com.
00:37:22.560 Thank you, sir, for joining us.
00:37:23.920 We'll have you back on soon.
00:37:25.500 Thank you, ma'am.
00:37:27.740 And Warren Posse, just a quick message from Birchgold before we get to our next guest who's
00:37:32.920 going to give us an update from all the horrible stuff going on on the West Coast and why they
00:37:37.460 need a D.C.-style crackdown.
00:37:40.880 Is the continued divide between Trump and the Federal Reserve putting us behind the curve
00:37:44.340 again?
00:37:44.740 Can the Fed take the right action at the right time, or are we going to be looking at a potential
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00:38:32.500 I am honored to bring on our next guest, Matt Brown of Yakima, Washington.
00:38:39.560 I was just out there, I guess maybe of good taste or bad taste, but for some reason you
00:38:44.520 invited me to give one of the keynote speeches at Yakima County, your GOP Lincoln Day dinner.
00:38:50.880 But you wear a lot of hats out there.
00:38:52.360 I think you're also, what is it, the deputy mayor?
00:38:54.260 You're on city council.
00:38:55.820 You're intimately involved with the kind of local life, certainly the crime scene.
00:39:01.780 You have an intimate understanding of all of that from a government perspective.
00:39:06.280 I obviously am here in D.C.
00:39:07.780 I guess we could maybe have a contest for who lives in a more dangerous city.
00:39:11.260 I think maybe someone who lived in Seattle might win that one.
00:39:14.540 But I just want to just sort of bring you on to react to what you've seen President Trump
00:39:19.680 do here in D.C., and if you think that that's something that could be replicated in cities
00:39:25.680 across the country, Seattle, et cetera.
00:39:29.520 Yeah, you know, it's very interesting to watch the crime.
00:39:33.880 What is it now, eight days and not a murder that's happened in Washington, D.C.?
00:39:38.120 I'm not entirely sure that's ever happened in Seattle's history over the last probably 10 years.
00:39:43.360 You know, between the crime that's running rampant in Seattle and in Washington State,
00:39:49.740 for that matter, we are at a kind of a rock and a hard place because we have a governor
00:39:56.500 right now that is defying Pam Bondi and President Trump at every turn.
00:40:01.760 Then we have an attorney general that is basically thumbing his nose and lining up lawsuits
00:40:07.640 against the Trump administration literally every day, which just is on taxpayers.
00:40:13.360 So, you know, the taxpayers of Washington State are paying for this to happen against
00:40:20.040 our president.
00:40:20.820 So, it's a fun time to live in Washington State.
00:40:23.920 You know, we are one of the actual states out of all 50 that have actually gotten to experience
00:40:30.720 the weaponization of government back through COVID.
00:40:32.900 We just had a business that was shut down during COVID for a million-dollar fine, and the
00:40:39.500 courts here just ruled that it was okay for them to be fined a million dollars.
00:40:44.120 It's a little restaurant, a little mom-and-pop restaurant.
00:40:47.420 And not only that, we've had all sorts of others.
00:40:50.720 We have a hate bias hotline.
00:40:52.560 So, if you, you know, if you don't like Matt Brown, you can call this hate bias hotline and
00:40:56.660 report all sorts of us in Washington State who are fighting against this crazy stuff.
00:41:02.660 And, you know, it has to stop.
00:41:05.620 And, you know, I'm excited that President Trump has been working to end the weaponization
00:41:10.000 of government and, you know, and fight back against these sanctuary policies that are really
00:41:16.180 causing death and destruction in Washington State.
00:41:19.380 I mean, we've lost a Washington State trooper because of a illegal alien that was, you know,
00:41:26.200 running amok in our state.
00:41:28.100 And when that happened, I mean, he was shot and killed.
00:41:31.160 And that is just one story of many that are happening right now in Washington State.
00:41:36.980 And I want to just say thank you, Natalie, for having me on.
00:41:40.240 It's not often that Washington State gets to be in this national spotlight in this sense.
00:41:46.420 But excited to was excited to have you to our Lincoln Day, but also excited to be able
00:41:50.760 to come on here.
00:41:52.740 We've got about a minute before we have to go to break, but can you just walk us through
00:41:56.640 on a positive note, some of the big wins that you guys have had in Yakima County, frankly,
00:42:01.000 under your leadership, but school board elections, local elections, how you flipped a lot of seats
00:42:05.660 through action, action, action.
00:42:08.560 Yeah, absolutely.
00:42:09.540 We've since I became chairman, we have been focused on local elections.
00:42:13.700 So we were able to flip our city council from a 5-2 leftist control to a 5-2 MAGA control.
00:42:20.200 Then plus that, we flipped school boards all up and down our valley.
00:42:24.680 We've hit close to 80,000 doors and door knocking since I became chairman.
00:42:29.320 And we've raised over almost a million dollars in funds over the last three years to put donor
00:42:35.440 money back to winning elections locally in Yakima.
00:42:38.800 But not only that, we are hyper-focused at winning elections in Washington State.
00:42:42.780 A lot of folks don't realize this, but there are seats that are for the taking.
00:42:47.900 And because of my new role as Washington State political director for the Republican Party,
00:42:51.540 we are laser-focused at taking those seats back.
00:42:55.600 Matt, if you can just hang with us through the break.
00:42:58.200 I want to, you know, they say correlation doesn't equal causation, but what is it?
00:43:01.280 Like all the top 10 cities in terms of murder rates are all a Democrat run.
00:43:05.920 There always seems to be a, I'll call it out.
00:43:07.760 I think that's not just a correlation that is direct causation, but there's something
00:43:11.940 even more evil.
00:43:13.140 It's a just, I think, disregard, if not outright rejection of humanity that plagues the sort
00:43:18.120 of Pacific Northwest, West Coast version of liberalism.
00:43:21.720 That's too euphemistic a word because I guess it's probably just a full-blown, full-throated
00:43:26.280 Marxism or just a bunch of homeless people.
00:43:28.980 Take your pick.
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00:44:59.440 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:45:06.580 Welcome back to The War Room.
00:45:08.560 We are still joined by Matt Brown.
00:45:10.580 I guess a Yakima GOP extraordinaire.
00:45:13.500 You wear a lot of hats.
00:45:15.280 But just sort of picking up where I left off, that was the one thing that I noticed from
00:45:19.260 being in Washington, spending extended time there, that there's something, you know, we
00:45:23.840 talk a lot about the battle between good and evil, and I'm from Los Angeles myself, so
00:45:28.360 I'm no stranger to it.
00:45:29.580 But there's something that it almost, it's an evil force.
00:45:32.600 It's like a possession of, I think, a lot of these people who push these policies that
00:45:36.480 are just anti-humanity and directly result in the either, you know, widespread death or
00:45:41.760 deaths or just abysmal quality of life, I think the mandate stuff you were talking about,
00:45:46.800 for their citizens.
00:45:47.580 It's a very weird version of the social contract that I don't think is anything rooted in what
00:45:52.720 the founding of this country was about.
00:45:55.000 But I'm just curious, your sort of perspective, you know, from whether it's the AG, your governor,
00:46:02.560 it just seems like every level there, there's just the stuff they say in public, it's so
00:46:07.620 brazenly, not just illegal, but directly harming their citizens.
00:46:12.820 Am I gaslighting myself?
00:46:15.600 No.
00:46:16.280 I mean, sometimes I wonder, like, am I losing my mind?
00:46:19.800 Are people actually saying these things as an elected official inside of our state?
00:46:24.820 And then I'm going, maybe I'm the weirdo that maybe they're actually speaking normal
00:46:30.420 things, but it's not.
00:46:32.060 I mean, Washington State is ranked in the top three for homelessness.
00:46:35.980 We have 32,000 people currently experiencing homelessness in our state.
00:46:41.880 I mean, there's cities that are that size, and we have them on the streets right now in
00:46:46.420 Washington State.
00:46:47.180 I mean, some folks talk about, you know, the left coast, the Washington, Oregon, and in
00:46:51.720 California as the kind of the prime examples of what not to do.
00:46:56.160 I say, well, it's not even just what not to do.
00:46:58.940 It's, in my opinion, the woke ideology and what's getting spawned throughout the rest of the
00:47:03.380 country is originating from these three states.
00:47:06.540 And what that means is, in my opinion, is we have to really work.
00:47:10.840 We're on the front lines of, you know, working against, you know, darkness of what this is.
00:47:17.260 I mean, you have, I mean, I think Riley Gaines was here at one point because there was a male
00:47:23.200 competing in sports, and our OSPI director here said that doesn't happen at all in Washington
00:47:30.280 State.
00:47:30.680 What are you guys talking about?
00:47:32.160 And it literally happened like a day after that multiple times all up and down in Washington
00:47:38.180 State.
00:47:38.540 So it's almost like we're in the twilight zone every single day in Washington State, you
00:47:43.720 know, from, but it hasn't, it's not just recently either.
00:47:47.120 I mean, if you look at an Oregon in 2016, there was the Obama, Comey, FBI that went and
00:47:55.540 weaponized against the Lavoie Finnicum and the Bundys in Oregon.
00:48:01.320 That was a standoff that happened in that front.
00:48:03.860 And that was the weaponization of government.
00:48:05.940 And that was, again, on the left coast.
00:48:08.040 So all of these things have started and originated here.
00:48:11.620 And so when people are like, oh, there's no hope in Washington, I'm like, there is hope.
00:48:15.800 But we are literally on the front lines of what is right and wrong, and it's happening
00:48:20.260 right here.
00:48:22.420 And just last question, just walk us through, I mean, the 70,000, the 80,000 doors that you
00:48:27.500 guys have knocked.
00:48:28.020 I mean, that's truly remarkable.
00:48:29.960 You know, this audience is very geared towards activism and action, very grassroots, a lot
00:48:35.300 of precinct committee members.
00:48:37.420 I met a lot of them in Yakima at the dinner, a lot of War Room Posse.
00:48:42.160 We always love to see it.
00:48:43.380 But just your sort of grassroots ground game and, you know, perhaps a positive, a shining
00:48:49.140 light in an otherwise very, as you were saying, dark state, just what your sort of game plan
00:48:54.020 and playbook is in there.
00:48:57.040 So for a long time, Democrats have used ballot harvesting to beat us over here in Washington
00:49:03.260 state.
00:49:03.960 And with that, when I came on as chairman, I told our crew, I said, look, we're going to
00:49:09.640 ballot harvest.
00:49:10.200 It's completely legal in Washington state, believe it or not.
00:49:14.340 There's no even chain of custody is almost non-existent in Washington state in regards
00:49:19.160 to ballots.
00:49:20.460 And so I told my team, I said, we're going to do this.
00:49:22.840 And we did.
00:49:23.960 And that has been the reason why we've been winning elections.
00:49:27.380 I mean, just in last year's election alone, we ballot harvested close to 2,000 ballots from
00:49:32.760 Yakima County with just our little team.
00:49:35.900 I have a team of about 15 people that were really highly motivated to get those ballots
00:49:42.460 in.
00:49:43.140 But in that same sense, there was one legislative district, which is the 14th here in our county.
00:49:48.660 That is a plus 17 Biden district.
00:49:51.360 It should not have been won by us, but we held it.
00:49:54.180 Not only did we hold it, we won it by like plus five and plus eight with some of our candidates.
00:49:58.140 And that just goes to show how much hard work hitting doors, being on the ground and doing
00:50:04.920 the work that is necessary means.
00:50:07.100 Because if you're not doing that, we know we can complain about elections all day and
00:50:11.060 complain about all of those things.
00:50:12.240 But if we're not willing to go toe to toe and compete head to head with Democrats on
00:50:17.000 these issues at doors, you really can't complain.
00:50:20.720 And in Washington state, voters really do stay home a lot because we're a mail-in balloting
00:50:26.020 state.
00:50:26.860 And so in Yakima County, for example, this last primary, we had less than 17 percent turnout.
00:50:33.400 So we're not talking like we have to get, you know, we don't have to do a whole lot of
00:50:38.080 persuasion here.
00:50:38.760 We're just trying to get all of our Republicans to show up and vote.
00:50:41.440 And if we do that, we'll start flipping the state.
00:50:43.520 Last question.
00:50:46.460 Do you think that President Trump's effort to rid the election process of mail-in ballots
00:50:50.900 will also significantly transform Washington?
00:50:54.900 Oh, absolutely.
00:50:56.480 We actually have a voter ID initiative going right now in Washington state that is, you
00:51:02.780 know, we're trying to return the aspect.
00:51:06.060 We've just found recently 700,000 voters in Washington state, registered voters in Washington
00:51:11.460 state don't have a driver's license or social security number tied to their voter registration.
00:51:17.840 700,000 voters.
00:51:19.700 We've lost elections in Washington state less than like in 2022 with Tiffany Smiley running
00:51:25.500 for Senate.
00:51:26.740 She lost 325,000 votes in that election.
00:51:30.340 You're talking twice that and people that we're not even sure are actual citizens to be
00:51:34.680 able to vote in our state.
00:51:35.760 So, yes, getting rid of mail-in ballots and then also voter ID would be instrumental in
00:51:43.400 changing what's going on in Washington state, Oregon, and to be honest, California as well.
00:51:48.500 Matt Brown, if people want to follow you or even if they live in Yakima or the surrounding
00:51:53.220 areas of Washington and want to get involved, knock doors, do all that kind of stuff, where
00:51:57.220 can they go to do all that?
00:52:00.700 Yeah, it's real simple.
00:52:02.300 Our website is yakima.gop.
00:52:04.260 You can also find us on X, which is just yakima underscore G-O-P.
00:52:09.460 Or if you'd like to get a hold of me, my website is mattforyakima.com.
00:52:13.820 And then on X, it's just mattforyakima.
00:52:16.820 So, real simple and we're hard working.
00:52:21.760 Thank you, sir, for joining us.
00:52:23.200 We'll have you back on.
00:52:24.840 All right.
00:52:25.420 Thanks, Natalie.
00:52:27.780 Like I said, I was very lucky to meet a lot of War Room Posse.
00:52:30.960 Many of you are probably watching this show, and it really was a wonderful night, not because
00:52:35.320 I got to speak, but because I got to hear from you guys who are knocking 80,000 doors.
00:52:40.900 It's wild and flipping elections, even in the state of Washington, all propelled by a man,
00:52:46.780 none other than Stephen K.
00:52:48.320 Bannon.
00:52:48.960 An honor, as always, to host.
00:52:50.480 And I will see you guys soon.
00:52:51.740 Have a good weekend.
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