Bannon's War Room - Episode 4727： Tearing Apart The Intelligence Community

00:00:00.660 So putting the pieces together, what are the implications for monetary policy?

00:00:06.600 In the near term, risks to inflation are tilted to the upside and risks to employment to

00:00:11.720 the downside, a challenging situation.

00:00:15.340 When our goals are intentioned like this, our framework calls for us to balance both

00:00:19.180 sides of our dual mandate.

00:00:21.600 Our policy rate is now 100 basis points closer to neutral than it was a year ago.

00:00:27.560 And the stability of the unemployment rate and other labor market measures allows us

00:00:32.380 to proceed carefully as we consider changes to our policy stance.

00:00:36.800 Nonetheless, with policy in restrictive territory, the baseline outlook and the shifting balance

00:00:42.280 of risks may warrant adjusting our policy stance.

00:00:47.840 Monetary policy is not on a preset course.

00:00:50.520 FOMC members will make these decisions based solely on their assessment of the data and

00:00:55.980 its implications for the economic outlook and the balance of risks.

00:01:00.320 We will never deviate from that approach.

00:01:02.800 ...any given moment.

00:01:04.860 But I don't think he cared about the classification system.

00:01:08.100 I don't think he appreciated the sensitivity of this information.

00:01:13.160 And he didn't appreciate the sensitivity of how it was often acquired, the so-called sources

00:01:18.600 and methods.

00:01:19.840 So this had been briefed to him before I arrived.

00:01:22.820 It was repeated frequently.

00:01:24.400 I think it simply had no impact on him, whatever.

00:01:27.660 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:01:34.480 Pray for our enemies.

00:01:36.540 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:01:39.480 Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:01:43.980 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:01:45.980 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:01:47.480 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop

00:01:49.820 it.

00:01:50.820 It's going to happen.

00:01:51.820 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:01:54.820 MAGA media.

00:01:55.820 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:02:01.800 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:02:05.440 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:02:11.480 Here in the war room, it's Friday, August 22nd in the year of our Lord, 2025, Natalie

00:02:25.940 Winters hosting, filling in for Stephen K. Bannon.

00:02:29.060 We've got a packed show.

00:02:30.660 We are awaiting the one and only Peter Navarro at the White House.

00:02:33.640 We got Mike Benz, Sam Faddis, and an update from the West Coast, why they need what President

00:02:39.760 Trump is doing here in D.C. while we wait for the one and only Dr. Navarro, Mike Benz,

00:02:46.180 I want to bring you on.

00:02:47.260 I wanted to get your sort of assessment and scoop of everything that happened this morning

00:02:53.040 with John Bolton and why you think he is, you know, potentially of interest, shall we

00:02:59.820 say, to law enforcement.

00:03:02.260 Well, we don't have any details about what the raid entailed.

00:03:06.220 But given the dispute between John Bolton and the Trump administration around the potentially

00:03:14.720 classified information in John Bolton's book that John Bolton put in there against the

00:03:25.980 disputes of the Trump administration, it's quite possible.

00:03:30.440 Well, I think signs are leading currently, the leading theory of the raid is that there

00:03:36.080 may be classified information at his home and that this was, in a way, kind of similar

00:03:42.820 to the kind of raids that the Biden administration was doing on Trump officials for that sort

00:03:48.620 of thing.

00:03:49.060 But John Bolton is, you know, quite an interesting character to be, if that is indeed what happened,

00:03:56.820 it's a bit ironic given that John Bolton had made those accusations against President Trump

00:04:04.460 of mishandling classified documents.

00:04:07.100 And there is a question whether, if that is indeed the case, if that is what the raid was

00:04:12.340 about.

00:04:12.700 There is the question of potential prosecutions.

00:04:17.840 And I just want to make this point up front, which is that there is the same problem with

00:04:23.840 prosecutions of blob officials who have committed criminal wrongdoing in D.C., which is the D.C.

00:04:30.680 jury pool.

00:04:32.120 And I believe that if Donald Trump, if President Trump and Vice President J.D.

00:04:37.580 Vance, put out a call for 100,000 people who are centrist or independent or conservative

00:04:44.760 to move to Washington, D.C.

00:04:47.040 in order to change the composition of D.C.

00:04:49.720 jury pools, it would only take about 100,000 people to substantially change D.C.

00:04:54.720 jury pools.

00:04:56.140 And I'm living in Washington, D.C.

00:04:58.640 now.

00:04:59.140 I've lived here several times.

00:05:00.720 It's always been a 95 percent Democrat city, which means it's always been a 95 percent

00:05:06.980 Democrat jury pool, which means it's very difficult to actually hold uniparty officials

00:05:13.240 responsible for crimes.

00:05:17.160 We saw this in the classified documents case about Joe Biden himself.

00:05:21.680 If folks recall, while the Justice Department was doing the pre-dawn raid of Mar-a-Lago and

00:05:27.180 indicting President Trump for mishandling classified documents, the Justice Department then suffered

00:05:33.360 a very embarrassing quandary, which was that then sitting President Joe Biden was found

00:05:40.680 to have had classified documents at his home and had had mishandled them, too.

00:05:45.860 And then Special Prosecutor Robert Herr argued in a memo that the Justice Department should

00:05:54.320 not bring the case against against President Biden, even though he had committed the same

00:06:00.160 alleged underlying crime as President Trump, because a D.C.

00:06:04.880 jury would find that he would be senile and genteel and would not want him to send him away

00:06:11.560 to spend his final days in a prison cell.

00:06:15.060 So it was the same crime, the same facts of the case.

00:06:19.500 But one person got indicted and the other person didn't just because of the issue of the jury

00:06:25.960 pool.

00:06:26.320 So I believe if the Trump administration can turn D.C. into Miami, so to speak, Miami recently

00:06:37.080 turned red in the past four years.

00:06:39.980 It's Miami-Dade County is now a red county.

00:06:42.320 If there can be a call, an immigration to D.C., if for nothing else, to help the Justice

00:06:53.000 Department be able to have a, be able to actually bring justice to Washington, D.C., I think that

00:07:00.000 would move mountains.

00:07:02.540 And speaking of the DOJ, I know it's just sort of breaking, but that they released the transcript

00:07:07.600 of Todd Blanche's interview with Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:07:10.720 Of course, the media focusing in that the DOJ did ask her about President Trump's potential

00:07:16.240 connections to Epstein, which she repeatedly said there were none.

00:07:19.700 She never saw him receive a massage or do anything, shall we say, untoward.

00:07:24.360 But I'm curious, you've been sort of going through it.

00:07:26.740 I've been seeing your ex.

00:07:27.820 What's your sort of assessment of what's contained there?

00:07:30.560 Well, one thing that's fascinating is she point blank tells the Justice Department, quote,

00:07:37.200 I was part of the beginning process of the Clinton Global Initiative.

00:07:41.480 And then she goes on to say that she believes Jeffrey Epstein actually funded the Clinton

00:07:47.300 Global Initiative and that they came up with the idea together while on a trip to Davos.

00:07:53.100 Now, we know that this lines up with the exact start of the Clinton Foundation in 2002 was

00:07:59.800 exactly when Jeffrey Epstein was flying President Clinton around personally as kind of aerial

00:08:06.000 chauffeur around Africa.

00:08:08.380 I think they went to five different countries in Africa together publicly.

00:08:12.520 And this was actually part of the process that I think brought Jeffrey Epstein a little

00:08:16.220 bit too close to the sun was when he was personally flying President Clinton around while President

00:08:21.880 Clinton was setting up the Clinton Foundation.

00:08:24.220 And we know that what the Clinton Foundation was doing was essentially pay to play while Hillary 0.55

00:08:30.300 Clinton was making her rise in New York Senate politics and then into the Secretary of State. 0.82

00:08:37.740 And while they had all this clout and connections and pull within the Democrat Party, that they

00:08:43.640 could essentially sell U.S. foreign policy to foreign donors and to big corporations so

00:08:49.900 that they could essentially, instead of doing things in the national interest, have the State

00:08:55.120 Department, the Defense Department, the CIA, USAID, essentially twist the governance and

00:09:02.220 policies of foreign countries using the battering ram of the American diplomacy and war and trade

00:09:10.180 machine in order to profit the people who personally paid the Clintons for those favors. 0.99

00:09:16.300 And so this is totally in line with what I think is the most persuasive theory of the case on Epstein,

00:09:23.380 which is that he was a money bundler.

00:09:26.720 He helped in the structuring of these complex, faux-philanthropic influence machines.

00:09:34.620 He was a dealmaker, and it looks like he was part of the dealmaking that went into the origins of the Clinton Foundation,

00:09:45.120 which we're now learning as well.

00:09:47.520 The Justice Department shut down the FBI investigation, and two, three different FBI investigations in the

00:09:53.780 Clinton Foundation were shut down.

00:09:55.160 And the IRS investigation was shut down, we're told now, because the IRS claimed they did not have

00:10:02.480 enough resources to investigate the Clinton Foundation.

00:10:05.700 Evidently, the fraud there was so massive, the IRS's defense to get out of political cronyism

00:10:12.280 is that, I guess, the fraud was too big to jail.

00:10:15.720 They simply couldn't take it on.

00:10:18.840 And, Mike, I want to sort of bring this back to the broader discussion, I think, of how these foreign

00:10:23.020 governments are sort of co-opting a lot of our domestic policy.

00:10:26.280 Obviously, on the censorship front, we've seen the U.K. do a lot there.

00:10:30.400 But yesterday, we ran out of time, but you had some updates on how foreign governments are

00:10:34.820 sort of exploiting some censorship loopholes.

00:10:36.760 Are there some movement on that front?

00:10:39.560 Yes, this is now escalating dramatically.

00:10:43.300 See, what happened was, this started as a transatlantic censorship apparatus.

00:10:49.520 It grew out of NATO initially as a response to losing Crimea in eastern Ukraine.

00:10:55.160 And then it moved westward to Western Europe after the Brexit referendum.

00:11:01.860 And then it moved finally to the United States in 2016 when Donald Trump won in that same DOD,

00:11:09.100 CIA, USAID, State Department network brought that apparatus to the United States.

00:11:13.940 But as we've gotten more and more victories here in the United States against the censorship machine,

00:11:20.700 as we have cracked down on the funding arms and the funding spigots from the U.S. government,

00:11:27.680 hundreds of millions of dollars, and I think the audience should be mindful of this.

00:11:31.620 We've achieved huge wins in just seven months in the Trump administration,

00:11:36.560 cutting hundreds of millions of dollars out of the NGOs and pressure cookers in the private sector

00:11:44.560 that were pushing the tech companies to censor people.

00:11:48.420 And so if you've experienced a lot more freedom on the Internet lately,

00:11:51.540 it's not just because of Elon Musk, although he played the indispensable role in this, undoubtedly,

00:11:57.640 but there's much less pressure on Facebook and on YouTube and on other organs from the U.S. government.

00:12:06.860 The response to this from the censors in exile in the United States

00:12:11.580 and their allies in ruling governments around the world has been to internationalize the issue,

00:12:18.480 to take it upstream of the United States to the international community.

00:12:22.620 And what they're now plotting and which has gone into effect,

00:12:25.640 and we're now seeing the beginning volleys of,

00:12:28.780 are you have foreign countries asserting global jurisdiction over websites on the Internet in countries far, far away?

00:12:36.000 So right now the U.K. is actually fining the website 4chan $20,000 a day.

00:12:43.680 So you add that up over a year, and this is very serious money.

00:12:49.040 4chan is a U.S. website.

00:12:51.140 It has nothing to do with the U.K.

00:12:52.900 This might as well be on the moon.

00:12:56.980 If 4chan was operated on a military base on the surface of the moon,

00:13:02.940 imagine the U.K. government fining it for allowing speech that Brits can access through a VPN.

00:13:11.520 This is a way of getting long-arm jurisdiction over American speech.

00:13:15.600 And make no mistake, this was the plan from the beginning.

00:13:19.040 The U.K. Digital Ministry and the U.K. Foreign Office,

00:13:23.180 as well as their little honchos and MI6 and the U.K. Ministry of Defense,

00:13:27.800 sent over a delegation to the Biden administration

00:13:30.660 and personally briefed them on how they can work together

00:13:34.660 to censor their mutual opponents on both sides of the Atlantic.

00:13:38.860 The America First Legal, Stephen Miller and Gene Hamilton's legal shop,

00:13:45.600 did an amazing job getting access to these documents.

00:13:49.180 They explicitly plotted to get to censor American speech with foreign censorship laws.

00:13:56.160 And the American censors in exile are champing at the bit

00:13:59.360 as a way for them to get their old jobs back in the censorship industry

00:14:03.120 and their old funding back from the government funding mechanisms

00:14:08.540 that allowed them to do this all with our money.

00:14:12.020 So this is now happening in the U.K.

00:14:14.100 It's happening in the EU through the EU Digital Services Act.

00:14:18.640 And it's happening in Brazil.

00:14:20.940 And this is now, essentially,

00:14:25.060 it's gone beyond what we can do within our own borders

00:14:29.340 to stop Internet censorship.

00:14:31.080 This is now a job for the State Department

00:14:33.400 and for our international influence branch

00:14:37.700 in order to stop the enforcement of this

00:14:40.480 through tariffs, sanctions, security policy renegotiations.

00:14:45.900 I believe we may need to threaten leaving NATO if this escalates.

00:14:50.880 Mike, if you can hang with us through the break.

00:14:53.360 Perfect pause, but I want to double down on that.

00:14:55.540 We'll be right back.

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00:17:56.840 We still have Mike Benz with us.

00:18:00.040 We've also got Sam Faddis, and we're awaiting Dr. Navarro.

00:18:03.720 But Mike, just to sort of wrap up directionally where you think we're going on the Bolton front,

00:18:11.140 what you think we need to really be paying attention to,

00:18:14.260 and you can sort of wrap up your censorship thoughts.

00:18:16.640 Yes.

00:18:18.120 So to me, what's happening on the John Bolton front, remember, he was the national security

00:18:23.400 advisor as well.

00:18:24.900 He was also the head of policy and budget for USAID, fascinatingly.

00:18:29.520 John Bolton was also the person who almost single-handedly, well, I guess he had a little help from his

00:18:37.920 friends, but he played a major part in getting us involved in the Iraq war, reportedly threatened

00:18:44.580 the head of the OPCW, the chemical weapons folks who tried to bring Iraq into that in order to try to—he

00:18:54.940 ousted them—ousted the head of that, threatened his family and children in order to ensure that the U.S.

00:19:02.080 had a war predicate to get the U.S. into the Iraq war.

00:19:05.880 But a lot of this comes down to the restructuring and accountability of the intelligence community,

00:19:11.220 which, of course, as the national security advisor, John Bolton, was the senior official

00:19:15.680 over that whole portfolio.

00:19:18.780 And what we saw this week as well was the ODNI director, Tulsi Gabbard, announcing a massive

00:19:25.440 restructuring of ODNI, laying off 40 percent, I believe, of the staff within ODNI and dramatically

00:19:35.640 downscaling and narrowing its role, citing bureaucratic bloat and a departure from its core mission.

00:19:44.000 I think a lot of folks, when they initially saw that ODNI was going to have a massive staff

00:19:50.920 reduction, saw that as being a kind of reduction of her powers. 0.99

00:19:57.580 This, I believe, came from Senator Tom Cotton, who's the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee

00:20:02.560 currently.

00:20:03.620 But this does appear to be the thing that Tulsi wanted.

00:20:06.800 And you can see how, to the extent that ODNI is obstructed from the inside by a vast bureaucratic

00:20:13.340 class who is not carrying out orders, who is working across purposes, that this could

00:20:18.860 be a way to really streamline the efficiency as they continue their DIG transparency effort.

00:20:26.960 But at the end of the day, you basically have two methods of accountability, three methods

00:20:30.740 of accountability.

00:20:31.320 You have mass terminations, you have defunding, you have declassifications, and then I guess

00:20:38.620 the fourth would be the criminal arrests.

00:20:40.440 And I do want to stress that while we've made so many strides in reforms to these government

00:20:47.720 institutions, at the end of the day, the Justice Department, it does need to deal with that

00:20:53.480 D.C. jury phenomenon.

00:20:55.300 And I just want to reiterate to any members of the administration who are listening that I

00:21:02.600 do believe a public call to stack D.C. with conservatives so that the jury pool is even

00:21:12.580 and you have a fair fight is really the only way to arm the Justice Department with the support

00:21:19.800 that it needs within the community of peers of these national security officials who've

00:21:25.180 gone rogue so that they actually get a fair trial and not a rigged one where they will

00:21:31.160 be declared innocent and even having committed crimes and the DOJ will be permanently hamstrung.

00:21:38.700 This is the problem when you have all these federal government offices headquartered in D.C.

00:21:46.580 and D.C. is the home turf of lobsters.

00:21:51.180 I think if there was essentially a kind of jobs program or something to entice people to

00:21:58.900 move to D.C. to change that phenomenon, you would have a completely different administration

00:22:03.980 of justice in terms of our federal offices.

00:22:07.460 Mike Benz, as always, thank you for laying everything out for us.

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00:22:22.960 Thank you, sir, for joining us.

00:22:27.460 We are joined now, I guess, kind of picking up where we left off by the one and only Sam

00:22:31.840 Faddis, who has a great new sub stack piece up.

00:22:34.860 Tearing apart the intelligence community is the easy part.

00:22:37.740 It's the rebuilding it that will be the challenge.

00:22:41.200 Obviously, Director Gabbard announced that they're going to be reorganizing, significantly

00:22:45.700 slimming down the ODNI.

00:22:48.180 Can you sort of walk us through what the announced changes are and just walk us through your piece?

00:22:54.620 Right.

00:22:55.200 Well, when the Director of National Intelligence was created, when the Office of Director of

00:23:00.460 National Intelligence was created after 9-11, the idea was you were supposed to have this

00:23:04.640 small staff that would theoretically help all these agencies to talk to each other and

00:23:10.860 coordinate because supposedly 9-11 was a failure in communication.

00:23:16.780 There are a lot of other issues behind 9-11.

00:23:19.760 But in any event, you were supposed to have a very small staff and a director and just coordinate

00:23:25.360 things.

00:23:25.780 It, of course, in classic Washington fashion, ballooned into this monstrosity, just, you

00:23:32.420 know, duplication of effort, layers upon layers of bureaucrats. 0.99

00:23:35.700 So the current DNI, Tulsi Gabbard, has been very clear since she got in that she's not letting

00:23:42.240 that stand.

00:23:43.280 And she is making significant cuts.

00:23:45.400 And this is the biggest cut she has made so far.

00:23:48.220 And it's, you know, it is a good start.

00:23:51.440 I support it wholeheartedly.

00:23:54.560 The point of the article was to say, it is a good start, but that is all it is.

00:24:00.780 And that's not a knock on the DNI.

00:24:02.660 She knows that.

00:24:05.200 And I, you know, you have a bloated apparatus.

00:24:09.860 And again, as I often do to focus on CIA, since I'm closest to that, it is bloated.

00:24:17.200 It is, has clearly involved itself, senior members, in all sorts of things now for many

00:24:24.200 years that it should not have done.

00:24:27.200 And that's too mild.

00:24:29.040 Illegal actions and unconstitutional actions.

00:24:31.920 So that is clear.

00:24:33.980 But at the same time, the actual mission that it is supposed to be accomplishing, collecting

00:24:40.140 intelligence abroad, conducting covert action, when the president directs it to, pursuant

00:24:47.780 to federal law, it doesn't do those things very well anymore.

00:24:54.260 John Brennan took point on this and effectively destroying its effectiveness.

00:25:01.780 And it is now run largely by guys and gals who were not operations officers like I was.

00:25:08.780 In other words, they're not spies in common parlance.

00:25:12.260 They didn't run ops.

00:25:13.520 They haven't spent their careers abroad.

00:25:15.980 They're government bureaucrats.

00:25:17.420 They've hardly ever left Northern Virginia.

00:25:19.340 Uh, and they have no idea what they're doing beyond, again, the political things they've

00:25:27.560 been involved in that clearly they should not be involved in.

00:25:31.220 So it's not just cutting slots and getting rid of people.

00:25:37.620 Uh, we need to make sure, first of all, we cut the right people and retain the right people.

00:25:43.360 But then we have to understand that that whole apparatus, and it goes beyond CIH,

00:25:49.340 and it's true of all the other agencies, is broken in the broken in the sense that it

00:25:55.040 cannot perform the mission that it's actually supposed to perform.

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00:29:37.300 War Room.

00:29:38.140 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:29:40.220 Bannon.

00:29:44.820 Welcome back to The War Room.

00:29:47.440 We are still joined by Sam Faddis.

00:29:50.760 Sam, I'm just curious.

00:29:51.800 I was sort of perusing the legacy media's reaction to the announced changes from Director Gabbard.

00:29:58.140 And they, of course, are taking the playbook that it's going to leave America less safe.

00:30:02.000 I guess presupposing that the people she's axing were doing anything meaningful, like you alluded

00:30:07.140 to sort of bureaucratic blob overreach.

00:30:10.440 I'm just curious what your pushback on that front would be. 0.98

00:30:12.900 Yeah, well, that's crap to use a technical term. 0.84

00:30:17.520 I mean, look, it's predictable, and that's what they're going to say about any change. 0.97

00:30:22.160 I mean, nobody in the real world wants to get lost in the intricacies of how CIA is structured.

00:30:28.340 But just to put some meat on the bones of what I just said, it used to be, I mean, CIA exists

00:30:34.280 basically to recruit sources, to recruit spies inside target organizations like Al Qaeda and

00:30:39.260 produce intelligence.

00:30:40.580 And then to conduct covert action when the president signs a finding and gives them the legal authority

00:30:45.680 to do so.

00:30:46.180 OK, all of that is run by operations, the Directorate of Operations, known as the DO.

00:30:51.600 So basically, CIA used to be built around the DO.

00:30:56.100 And the guy who ran the Directorate of Operations, the DDO, was the heart and soul, the guy that

00:31:02.640 fought the ship.

00:31:04.420 OK, and they obviously have a director that sits at the top of this.

00:31:08.080 But in terms of ops, that's how this worked.

00:31:11.040 And everybody else was, to use a military term, a supporting arm.

00:31:14.680 In other words, they provided the money, they provided the logistics, whatever.

00:31:18.680 OK, Brennan destroyed all of that.

00:31:21.940 He mashed everybody together into these mission centers with analysts and operators and other

00:31:28.120 people with no discernible skills, all in these amorphous blobs, often run by people who

00:31:37.860 aren't operators.

00:31:38.880 So just some guy who left Northern Virginia is now in charge of running the ops against

00:31:44.480 a particular target.

00:31:46.060 And then those people don't report to the head of operations anymore.

00:31:49.740 They report directly like they're a shoe company to a guy called the chief operating officer,

00:31:56.940 the coup, straight out of corporate lexicon, right?

00:32:00.360 Who is never an operator.

00:32:02.160 In fact, the first coup was a guy they hired out of private business.

00:32:08.680 So the guy who basically supposed to be running all the operations worldwide came from, I think,

00:32:14.780 an investment firm and had no background.

00:32:18.120 So you have complete, in addition to the issues everybody's familiar with, you know, interfering

00:32:23.220 in American domestic politics, you have deprofessionalized the whole organization.

00:32:30.100 It is a mess and it is incapable of doing what it's actually supposed to do.

00:32:38.000 So back to my point, just cutting numbers out of there and leaving it in this same completely

00:32:46.300 combat ineffective status makes no sense.

00:32:50.280 If you're going to do that, then just shut it down.

00:32:52.320 Because right now it is literally incapable of doing its job.

00:32:57.400 And, you know, at this point, many Americans would be like, okay, just get rid of it.

00:33:01.200 Well, you know, unfortunately, there are still bad guys out there planning on trying to get

00:33:06.080 nuclear weapons into New York City and detonate them in Manhattan.

00:33:09.800 That's for real.

00:33:11.340 So you kind of need somebody who actually knows what they're doing.

00:33:15.420 And right now we don't have that.

00:33:17.120 Before I let you go, I just want to get your thoughts on what happened earlier today.

00:33:23.800 I saw the clip of John Bolton returning home.

00:33:27.180 He didn't look too happy.

00:33:29.020 We played earlier in the show his commentary about how no one is above the law.

00:33:33.480 And when President Trump's Mar-a-Lago residence was raided that it was, you know, a fitting

00:33:37.480 carriage of justice.

00:33:39.280 I wonder how those words age, how he's feeling about them now.

00:33:43.300 But your thoughts generally on what transpired this morning, and I know we're still sort

00:33:48.520 of unclear what exactly it was about.

00:33:50.280 Maybe we'll hear more tonight.

00:33:52.060 But what exactly do you think is going on there?

00:33:55.480 Well, you know, what I think is going on is this is not a revenge ride.

00:34:00.260 This is not the, you know, the MAGA movement now going out and doing the same thing to the

00:34:05.660 other side that was done to them.

00:34:06.960 This is the FBI and DOJ picking up an investigation that was ongoing into Bolton when Biden came

00:34:17.500 to into power.

00:34:19.500 And as soon as he did, he directed that the investigation be shut down.

00:34:25.480 And the investigation was into issues surrounding the use of and disclosure of classified information.

00:34:31.960 And as I understand it, the basic backstory is Biden went out when he left the Trump White

00:34:37.060 House in the first term.

00:34:38.040 He was fired up, angry.

00:34:41.640 He decided to write a book saying all kinds of things.

00:34:44.920 And he had to submit it for publication review, which everybody does if you've had access to

00:34:51.280 classified information.

00:34:52.640 I've written six books.

00:34:53.720 I submitted them all and went through this process.

00:34:57.100 Biden decided, I mean, Bolton decided at some point he didn't like the results of the process.

00:35:02.220 It was taking too long.

00:35:03.700 And he did not agree with the cuts they were saying he had to make.

00:35:09.240 So as I understand it, he basically blew off the process and went ahead and published a book with

00:35:17.460 information in it that he had been told was classified and could not be disclosed.

00:35:24.840 So we are now picking up an investigation that, you know, should have been completed years ago

00:35:33.260 and wasn't because of political influence, uh, interference, whether the guy will actually

00:35:38.840 be charged, whether he will be prosecuted in prison.

00:35:43.240 At this point, nobody knows because at this point they have not arrested him.

00:35:47.780 All they did was go through his house and take some things out of it.

00:35:50.840 Can you just walk us through one more time?

00:35:54.400 Because obviously we've seen the legacy media coverage, making it seem like this is some

00:35:57.900 witch hunt, some form of retribution to use a word that they certainly became apoplectic

00:36:02.780 over.

00:36:03.260 But this is essentially just resuming something that Biden through political motives and means

00:36:07.920 halted, if I'm not misunderstanding it.

00:36:10.700 That is precisely the case.

00:36:13.120 And also let's just underline this.

00:36:15.480 There's no ambiguity about classified information, right?

00:36:19.920 You know, when I was working at the CIA, I didn't just stuff some files in my suit jacket

00:36:25.400 at the end of the day and accidentally bring them home, right?

00:36:29.700 I mean, classified information lives on classified electronic systems, or if it's hard copy, it

00:36:37.120 lives in safes and inside controlled alarm spaces with guards.

00:36:42.940 So you can't just accidentally, John, have a bunch of stuff that's classified sitting around

00:36:52.340 in your house.

00:36:53.220 That doesn't happen.

00:36:55.000 In fact, just taking it out of classified space, even if you're not spying for it, just

00:37:01.440 the fact that you did that is already a crime.

00:37:04.460 And people have been sent to prison for that.

00:37:07.020 Just that.

00:37:07.620 Sam Faddis, if people want to follow you, read the Substack, the magazine, where can

00:37:13.940 they go to do all that?

00:37:16.060 And magazine at Substack.

00:37:17.620 So that's andmagazine.substack.com.

00:37:22.560 Thank you, sir, for joining us.

00:37:23.920 We'll have you back on soon.

00:37:25.500 Thank you, ma'am.

00:37:27.740 And Warren Posse, just a quick message from Birchgold before we get to our next guest who's

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00:37:37.460 need a D.C.-style crackdown.

00:37:40.880 Is the continued divide between Trump and the Federal Reserve putting us behind the curve

00:37:44.340 again?

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00:38:32.500 I am honored to bring on our next guest, Matt Brown of Yakima, Washington.

00:38:39.560 I was just out there, I guess maybe of good taste or bad taste, but for some reason you

00:38:44.520 invited me to give one of the keynote speeches at Yakima County, your GOP Lincoln Day dinner.

00:38:50.880 But you wear a lot of hats out there.

00:38:52.360 I think you're also, what is it, the deputy mayor?

00:38:54.260 You're on city council.

00:38:55.820 You're intimately involved with the kind of local life, certainly the crime scene.

00:39:01.780 You have an intimate understanding of all of that from a government perspective.

00:39:06.280 I obviously am here in D.C.

00:39:07.780 I guess we could maybe have a contest for who lives in a more dangerous city.

00:39:11.260 I think maybe someone who lived in Seattle might win that one.

00:39:14.540 But I just want to just sort of bring you on to react to what you've seen President Trump

00:39:19.680 do here in D.C., and if you think that that's something that could be replicated in cities

00:39:25.680 across the country, Seattle, et cetera.

00:39:29.520 Yeah, you know, it's very interesting to watch the crime.

00:39:33.880 What is it now, eight days and not a murder that's happened in Washington, D.C.?

00:39:38.120 I'm not entirely sure that's ever happened in Seattle's history over the last probably 10 years.

00:39:43.360 You know, between the crime that's running rampant in Seattle and in Washington State,

00:39:49.740 for that matter, we are at a kind of a rock and a hard place because we have a governor

00:39:56.500 right now that is defying Pam Bondi and President Trump at every turn.

00:40:01.760 Then we have an attorney general that is basically thumbing his nose and lining up lawsuits

00:40:07.640 against the Trump administration literally every day, which just is on taxpayers.

00:40:13.360 So, you know, the taxpayers of Washington State are paying for this to happen against

00:40:20.040 our president.

00:40:20.820 So, it's a fun time to live in Washington State.

00:40:23.920 You know, we are one of the actual states out of all 50 that have actually gotten to experience

00:40:30.720 the weaponization of government back through COVID.

00:40:32.900 We just had a business that was shut down during COVID for a million-dollar fine, and the

00:40:39.500 courts here just ruled that it was okay for them to be fined a million dollars.

00:40:44.120 It's a little restaurant, a little mom-and-pop restaurant.

00:40:47.420 And not only that, we've had all sorts of others.

00:40:50.720 We have a hate bias hotline.

00:40:52.560 So, if you, you know, if you don't like Matt Brown, you can call this hate bias hotline and

00:40:56.660 report all sorts of us in Washington State who are fighting against this crazy stuff.

00:41:02.660 And, you know, it has to stop.

00:41:05.620 And, you know, I'm excited that President Trump has been working to end the weaponization

00:41:10.000 of government and, you know, and fight back against these sanctuary policies that are really

00:41:16.180 causing death and destruction in Washington State.

00:41:19.380 I mean, we've lost a Washington State trooper because of a illegal alien that was, you know, 1.00

00:41:26.200 running amok in our state.

00:41:28.100 And when that happened, I mean, he was shot and killed.

00:41:31.160 And that is just one story of many that are happening right now in Washington State.

00:41:36.980 And I want to just say thank you, Natalie, for having me on.

00:41:40.240 It's not often that Washington State gets to be in this national spotlight in this sense.

00:41:46.420 But excited to was excited to have you to our Lincoln Day, but also excited to be able

00:41:50.760 to come on here.

00:41:52.740 We've got about a minute before we have to go to break, but can you just walk us through

00:41:56.640 on a positive note, some of the big wins that you guys have had in Yakima County, frankly,

00:42:01.000 under your leadership, but school board elections, local elections, how you flipped a lot of seats

00:42:05.660 through action, action, action.

00:42:08.560 Yeah, absolutely.

00:42:09.540 We've since I became chairman, we have been focused on local elections.

00:42:13.700 So we were able to flip our city council from a 5-2 leftist control to a 5-2 MAGA control.

00:42:20.200 Then plus that, we flipped school boards all up and down our valley.

00:42:24.680 We've hit close to 80,000 doors and door knocking since I became chairman.

00:42:29.320 And we've raised over almost a million dollars in funds over the last three years to put donor

00:42:35.440 money back to winning elections locally in Yakima.

00:42:38.800 But not only that, we are hyper-focused at winning elections in Washington State.

00:42:42.780 A lot of folks don't realize this, but there are seats that are for the taking.

00:42:47.900 And because of my new role as Washington State political director for the Republican Party,

00:42:51.540 we are laser-focused at taking those seats back.

00:42:55.600 Matt, if you can just hang with us through the break.

00:42:58.200 I want to, you know, they say correlation doesn't equal causation, but what is it?

00:43:01.280 Like all the top 10 cities in terms of murder rates are all a Democrat run.

00:43:05.920 There always seems to be a, I'll call it out.

00:43:07.760 I think that's not just a correlation that is direct causation, but there's something

00:43:11.940 even more evil.

00:43:13.140 It's a just, I think, disregard, if not outright rejection of humanity that plagues the sort 0.98

00:43:18.120 of Pacific Northwest, West Coast version of liberalism.

00:43:21.720 That's too euphemistic a word because I guess it's probably just a full-blown, full-throated

00:43:26.280 Marxism or just a bunch of homeless people.

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00:44:59.440 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.

00:45:06.580 Welcome back to The War Room.

00:45:08.560 We are still joined by Matt Brown.

00:45:10.580 I guess a Yakima GOP extraordinaire.

00:45:13.500 You wear a lot of hats.

00:45:15.280 But just sort of picking up where I left off, that was the one thing that I noticed from

00:45:19.260 being in Washington, spending extended time there, that there's something, you know, we

00:45:23.840 talk a lot about the battle between good and evil, and I'm from Los Angeles myself, so

00:45:28.360 I'm no stranger to it.

00:45:29.580 But there's something that it almost, it's an evil force.

00:45:32.600 It's like a possession of, I think, a lot of these people who push these policies that

00:45:36.480 are just anti-humanity and directly result in the either, you know, widespread death or

00:45:41.760 deaths or just abysmal quality of life, I think the mandate stuff you were talking about,

00:45:46.800 for their citizens.

00:45:47.580 It's a very weird version of the social contract that I don't think is anything rooted in what

00:45:52.720 the founding of this country was about.

00:45:55.000 But I'm just curious, your sort of perspective, you know, from whether it's the AG, your governor,

00:46:02.560 it just seems like every level there, there's just the stuff they say in public, it's so

00:46:07.620 brazenly, not just illegal, but directly harming their citizens.

00:46:12.820 Am I gaslighting myself?

00:46:15.600 No.

00:46:16.280 I mean, sometimes I wonder, like, am I losing my mind?

00:46:19.800 Are people actually saying these things as an elected official inside of our state?

00:46:24.820 And then I'm going, maybe I'm the weirdo that maybe they're actually speaking normal

00:46:30.420 things, but it's not.

00:46:32.060 I mean, Washington State is ranked in the top three for homelessness.

00:46:35.980 We have 32,000 people currently experiencing homelessness in our state.

00:46:41.880 I mean, there's cities that are that size, and we have them on the streets right now in

00:46:46.420 Washington State.

00:46:47.180 I mean, some folks talk about, you know, the left coast, the Washington, Oregon, and in

00:46:51.720 California as the kind of the prime examples of what not to do.

00:46:56.160 I say, well, it's not even just what not to do.

00:46:58.940 It's, in my opinion, the woke ideology and what's getting spawned throughout the rest of the

00:47:03.380 country is originating from these three states.

00:47:06.540 And what that means is, in my opinion, is we have to really work.

00:47:10.840 We're on the front lines of, you know, working against, you know, darkness of what this is.

00:47:17.260 I mean, you have, I mean, I think Riley Gaines was here at one point because there was a male

00:47:23.200 competing in sports, and our OSPI director here said that doesn't happen at all in Washington

00:47:30.280 State.

00:47:30.680 What are you guys talking about?

00:47:32.160 And it literally happened like a day after that multiple times all up and down in Washington

00:47:38.180 State.

00:47:38.540 So it's almost like we're in the twilight zone every single day in Washington State, you

00:47:43.720 know, from, but it hasn't, it's not just recently either.

00:47:47.120 I mean, if you look at an Oregon in 2016, there was the Obama, Comey, FBI that went and

00:47:55.540 weaponized against the Lavoie Finnicum and the Bundys in Oregon.

00:48:01.320 That was a standoff that happened in that front.

00:48:03.860 And that was the weaponization of government.

00:48:05.940 And that was, again, on the left coast.

00:48:08.040 So all of these things have started and originated here.

00:48:11.620 And so when people are like, oh, there's no hope in Washington, I'm like, there is hope.

00:48:15.800 But we are literally on the front lines of what is right and wrong, and it's happening

00:48:20.260 right here.

00:48:22.420 And just last question, just walk us through, I mean, the 70,000, the 80,000 doors that you

00:48:27.500 guys have knocked.

00:48:28.020 I mean, that's truly remarkable.

00:48:29.960 You know, this audience is very geared towards activism and action, very grassroots, a lot

00:48:35.300 of precinct committee members.

00:48:37.420 I met a lot of them in Yakima at the dinner, a lot of War Room Posse.

00:48:42.160 We always love to see it.

00:48:43.380 But just your sort of grassroots ground game and, you know, perhaps a positive, a shining

00:48:49.140 light in an otherwise very, as you were saying, dark state, just what your sort of game plan

00:48:54.020 and playbook is in there.

00:48:57.040 So for a long time, Democrats have used ballot harvesting to beat us over here in Washington

00:49:03.260 state.

00:49:03.960 And with that, when I came on as chairman, I told our crew, I said, look, we're going to

00:49:09.640 ballot harvest.

00:49:10.200 It's completely legal in Washington state, believe it or not.

00:49:14.340 There's no even chain of custody is almost non-existent in Washington state in regards

00:49:19.160 to ballots.

00:49:20.460 And so I told my team, I said, we're going to do this.

00:49:22.840 And we did.

00:49:23.960 And that has been the reason why we've been winning elections.

00:49:27.380 I mean, just in last year's election alone, we ballot harvested close to 2,000 ballots from

00:49:32.760 Yakima County with just our little team.

00:49:35.900 I have a team of about 15 people that were really highly motivated to get those ballots

00:49:42.460 in.

00:49:43.140 But in that same sense, there was one legislative district, which is the 14th here in our county.

00:49:48.660 That is a plus 17 Biden district.

00:49:51.360 It should not have been won by us, but we held it.

00:49:54.180 Not only did we hold it, we won it by like plus five and plus eight with some of our candidates.

00:49:58.140 And that just goes to show how much hard work hitting doors, being on the ground and doing

00:50:04.920 the work that is necessary means.

00:50:07.100 Because if you're not doing that, we know we can complain about elections all day and

00:50:11.060 complain about all of those things.

00:50:12.240 But if we're not willing to go toe to toe and compete head to head with Democrats on

00:50:17.000 these issues at doors, you really can't complain.

00:50:20.720 And in Washington state, voters really do stay home a lot because we're a mail-in balloting

00:50:26.020 state.

00:50:26.860 And so in Yakima County, for example, this last primary, we had less than 17 percent turnout.

00:50:33.400 So we're not talking like we have to get, you know, we don't have to do a whole lot of

00:50:38.080 persuasion here.

00:50:38.760 We're just trying to get all of our Republicans to show up and vote.

00:50:41.440 And if we do that, we'll start flipping the state.

00:50:43.520 Last question.

00:50:46.460 Do you think that President Trump's effort to rid the election process of mail-in ballots

00:50:50.900 will also significantly transform Washington?

00:50:54.900 Oh, absolutely.

00:50:56.480 We actually have a voter ID initiative going right now in Washington state that is, you

00:51:02.780 know, we're trying to return the aspect.

00:51:06.060 We've just found recently 700,000 voters in Washington state, registered voters in Washington

00:51:11.460 state don't have a driver's license or social security number tied to their voter registration.

00:51:17.840 700,000 voters.

00:51:19.700 We've lost elections in Washington state less than like in 2022 with Tiffany Smiley running

00:51:25.500 for Senate.

00:51:26.740 She lost 325,000 votes in that election.

00:51:30.340 You're talking twice that and people that we're not even sure are actual citizens to be

00:51:34.680 able to vote in our state.

00:51:35.760 So, yes, getting rid of mail-in ballots and then also voter ID would be instrumental in

00:51:43.400 changing what's going on in Washington state, Oregon, and to be honest, California as well.

00:51:48.500 Matt Brown, if people want to follow you or even if they live in Yakima or the surrounding

00:51:53.220 areas of Washington and want to get involved, knock doors, do all that kind of stuff, where

00:51:57.220 can they go to do all that?

00:52:00.700 Yeah, it's real simple.

00:52:02.300 Our website is yakima.gop.

00:52:04.260 You can also find us on X, which is just yakima underscore G-O-P.

00:52:09.460 Or if you'd like to get a hold of me, my website is mattforyakima.com.

00:52:13.820 And then on X, it's just mattforyakima.

00:52:16.820 So, real simple and we're hard working.

00:52:21.760 Thank you, sir, for joining us.

00:52:23.200 We'll have you back on.

00:52:24.840 All right.

00:52:25.420 Thanks, Natalie.

00:52:27.780 Like I said, I was very lucky to meet a lot of War Room Posse.

00:52:30.960 Many of you are probably watching this show, and it really was a wonderful night, not because

00:52:35.320 I got to speak, but because I got to hear from you guys who are knocking 80,000 doors.

00:52:40.900 It's wild and flipping elections, even in the state of Washington, all propelled by a man, 0.99

00:52:46.780 none other than Stephen K.

00:52:48.320 Bannon.

00:52:48.960 An honor, as always, to host.

00:52:50.480 And I will see you guys soon.

00:52:51.740 Have a good weekend.

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Bannon's War Room - August 22, 2025

Episode 4727： Tearing Apart The Intelligence Community

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