Bannon's War Room - Episode 4736： The Six Factions Of Trump World; Keeping Kentucky MAGA

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.360 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.600 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.860 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.780 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.220 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.960 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:22.900 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.160 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.560 Mega Media.

00:00:28.480 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.400 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.100 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.500 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:53.180 It's Wednesday, 27 August, in the year of our Lord, 2025.

00:00:56.260 Thanks for joining us this morning. We're pretty jammed.

00:00:59.380 We're going to be talking about institutions today, since it seems to be a firestorm over this situation with our central bank,

00:01:06.320 the Federal Reserve, President Trump, one of the governors.

00:01:09.780 Also, Scott Besant, our former contributor here on TV this morning, talking about the Fed and the restructuring of the Fed.

00:01:16.080 We'll get to all that, even more of the institutions.

00:01:17.940 We're going to break down some of the moments out of the cabinet meeting yesterday.

00:01:21.860 Caroline Redd's going to join me for the first hour.

00:01:23.900 Also, we've got Nate Morris, who's kind of running against the McConnell legacy in Kentucky, will join us in the first hour.

00:01:31.340 The second hour, the Washington Monthly has put out a really amazing, you see these college guys all the time.

00:01:37.100 They put out a totally different type of college guy in a special edition, college guide.

00:01:42.680 We're going to have the team to put it together on in the second hour.

00:01:46.060 I think it's kind of a populist guide to colleges.

00:01:51.120 But I get the most bang for the buck.

00:01:52.760 Anyway, it's very fascinating.

00:01:54.040 We'll have those on.

00:01:54.720 Eduardo Bolsonaro will join us.

00:01:56.200 John Solomon on the second hour.

00:01:57.620 So we've got a lot to get through today.

00:01:59.780 I want to thank Caroline.

00:02:00.600 I'll bring her up in a moment.

00:02:01.440 I want to start with Natalie Allison over at The Washington Post, fascinating piece that came out yesterday, really on the coalition, as we keep talking about.

00:02:10.780 And this gets to the redistricting and the big fight in 2026.

00:02:13.460 The Democrats have hinted to this morning, I think, something that's quite fascinating.

00:02:17.700 I'll ask Caroline about this later.

00:02:19.380 They're actually thinking of having a mini convention in the summer prior to the 2026 midterm.

00:02:25.280 And so you see the firestorm out in California.

00:02:28.880 We'll have more on that later in the show.

00:02:30.360 So what's happening in Texas and also now it looks like the plan on the redistricting taking much more, becoming more real.

00:02:38.700 But as we talk about Florida's releasing maps, guys in Ohio are talking about two seats.

00:02:42.200 So we'll get to all that.

00:02:43.420 Part of this is about coalition, building a coalition and coalition government and building a coalition like we talk about FDR and the folks did back in after the Great Depression in 1932.

00:02:54.940 A dude that essentially governed the country, even through the Reagan Revolution, really, until Newt Gingrich came along, but governed the country, I don't know, for 80 years.

00:03:03.360 Natalie Allison joins us about the, what is it, the six factions that compose this fractious movement that President Trump's got to hold together.

00:03:13.280 Natalie, can you just break it down for our audience?

00:03:15.820 What are the, let's start at the top, the 60,000 foot, what are, what are the big groups?

00:03:21.220 And then we'll talk about the interconnectivity or maybe the lack of interconnectivity of some of the, some of the tasks and purposes of your different groups as you break it down, ma'am.

00:03:31.460 Yeah, well, thanks for having me on, Steve.

00:03:34.120 It's good to be here talking to the War Room Posse.

00:03:36.960 You were remiss, though, to mention the latest institution that seems like Trump has brought to heel, that being Cracker Barrel.

00:03:43.680 So I hope that you'll reserve some time on your show to talk about that today.

00:03:47.980 But let's get into this story.

00:03:50.720 Basically, you know, this is something that at the Post we had been kicking around for a while, this idea of explaining for readers.

00:03:58.760 And these are, you know, the Washington Post readers are not necessarily people who are spending a lot of time taking in conservative media or necessarily all really familiar with what the makeup of today's Republican Party is.

00:04:11.320 So we thought it would be a service to our readers to just explain who these groups are, these subgroups within the Republican Party.

00:04:18.780 You hear about Republican infighting.

00:04:21.340 We saw that a lot with, with Elon being on the stage so frequently, you know, when Trump right before inauguration was, was getting ready to reenter office.

00:04:31.640 There was the big fight over the H-1B visas.

00:04:35.460 And so, like, our readers have taken in a lot of content about Republican infighting, but we were trying to break down who exactly these groups are.

00:04:43.020 And so, of course, we started with the MAGA populace in your figurehead for that group.

00:04:48.780 And when people think about Trump supporters, this is the group of people they are thinking of.

00:04:53.520 This is the group of people who were with Trump from the beginning, in many cases, in 2016.

00:04:57.820 Lots of other subgroups within the Republican Party have come around to Trump or now tolerate Trump, have figured out, you know,

00:05:03.960 what kind of bargain they're going to make with themselves and each other to be OK with Trump.

00:05:08.080 But the populace were the ones who were originally there for him.

00:05:11.780 And that's the core of Trump's base right now.

00:05:16.360 So we mentioned people like you, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, like J.D. Vance, who, of course, is trying to project himself as a key populace figure going into 2028.

00:05:25.760 He, of course, has leaned into his working class roots as he's told his story on the national political stage.

00:05:32.040 But this is a group of people that, you know, are more likely to support tariffs.

00:05:37.720 And these are the people who are more likely to oppose high-skilled immigration being OK'd and are upset that Trump has, you know,

00:05:47.580 suggested that we're going to we're going to carve out exceptions for hotel workers and farm workers.

00:05:54.480 These are the people who stand out for hours waiting to see Trump at a rally.

00:05:58.020 So that's the first group. And do you want to go into the others?

00:06:02.760 Do you want to talk about the big picture of these factions?

00:06:05.160 Yeah, no, no, no. Let's go. Let's go to the second, because I think you lay it out, particularly for your readers.

00:06:09.380 You know, don't watch War Room or maybe not, you know, go to the Jack Posobiec podcast or Real America's Voice or read some of the blogs that are right wing.

00:06:17.140 You're I think what's fascinating is that you lay out the case of kind of the populace. Right.

00:06:21.280 And you're saying most of your readers think that's all the Trump thing is.

00:06:24.380 I want to go through the other groups because you realize as you go through it, as you describe it,

00:06:28.700 which I think is quite accurate there, there's there's certain aspects of the Venn diagram that does not overlap.

00:06:36.040 And that gets to be the coalition of how you keep it together, particularly as you get into the legislation

00:06:41.580 and you get into policies and executive orders and all that.

00:06:44.820 So once you go, so the populace kind of nationalists are the what people think is the core group you've laid that out.

00:06:51.560 Then take us through the other the other five factions of this fractious coalition.

00:06:57.200 Yeah. And to be clear, so there are groups that don't overlap and there are groups that do overlap.

00:07:01.760 You know, it's imperfect to put everyone in a very clean box.

00:07:05.920 J.D. Vance, for example, is someone who is also really associated with the tech right.

00:07:09.480 We'll get into that group later.

00:07:10.520 Lindsey Graham, we know, is somebody who is, you know, through and through a traditional Republican,

00:07:15.060 but has really been a key ally for the religious right in introducing anti-abortion legislation.

00:07:19.960 So let's get that out of the way, too.

00:07:21.620 But the next group is what we would call the traditional Republicans.

00:07:25.100 This is the John Thune, Lindsey Graham, you know, Glenn Youngkin types,

00:07:30.520 the people who are the old Chamber of Commerce type of Republicans that were pre-Trump.

00:07:35.760 Really, they were the dominant force in the party, of course, for many years.

00:07:40.160 And a lot of MAGA people, you know, you guys like to say sometimes, not you necessarily,

00:07:45.140 but people like to say that they're irrelevant and that this wing of the party is dead.

00:07:48.240 But we can see that they're still getting a number of things done that they want.

00:07:52.740 They, you know, obviously have been very opposed to the rise of pro-labor sentiment in the Republican Party.

00:08:01.060 And they've tried to shut that down and they've had some success with that.

00:08:05.220 This is obviously where many of the donors for many years in the party have lived.

00:08:09.080 And we're seeing that changing to some extent.

00:08:10.900 But by and large, this is still a really relevant group.

00:08:14.440 Thune being the leader of the Senate, of course, demonstrates that.

00:08:21.340 The next group we'll get into is sort of the old Tea Party, Fiscal Hawk, Libertarian Street group.

00:08:28.220 So we list Ted Cruz, Ron DeSantis, Ron Paul as examples of that.

00:08:35.720 So, you know, some of these people have different interests.

00:08:39.000 People like Ron Paul are more on the libertarian side of that.

00:08:42.040 But these are the people who really care more than anything about small government, fiscal responsibility, cutting the deficit, cutting the debt.

00:08:50.840 And a number of these people, Ron Paul and Thomas Massey, of course, included, have really come under fire from President Trump for not going along with everything the president wants in his agenda.

00:09:03.180 And you see Thomas Massey speaking out not just on fiscal matters, but, of course, with, you know, the flag burning order that Trump is signing.

00:09:12.960 And, of course, he also has been very outspoken, along with a number of the MAGA populists, about Epstein.

00:09:18.340 But, you know, a lot of squeaky wheels in this group.

00:09:21.380 And Ron DeSantis, before he became the governor of Florida, he sort of tried to make a name for himself in Congress as someone in the Tea Party, as a founding member of the House Freedom Caucus.

00:09:31.740 Another group that is sort of another one of these traditional, the last several decades, Republican groups is the religious right.

00:09:41.620 And they had their big moment in Trump's first term.

00:09:46.900 They, you know, Trump gave him a lot of credit for helping get him elected, getting evangelicals on board with Trump when a lot of others in the party weren't.

00:09:57.220 But right now they're not quite as relevant.

00:10:00.000 They're still getting what they need to from Trump.

00:10:03.040 They unsuccessfully tried to keep the party platform really anti-abortion and calling for a national abortion ban and a human life amendment.

00:10:13.060 And they didn't succeed with that last year.

00:10:14.720 And people like Tony Perkins and Marjorie Dannenfelser, they tried to get Trump to embrace calling for a national abortion ban and other Republicans in the Republican primary last year to do that.

00:10:26.460 And they didn't have much luck there.

00:10:28.180 And so their influence certainly seems to have waned in some ways, but they're still having a lot of success.

00:10:34.080 Obviously, the Dobbs decision was a huge victory for them and really what they had been working for for many years.

00:10:39.740 And so in a lot of ways, they have what they need right now.

00:10:42.600 So the tech right, this is one of – so this is one of the two sort of newer factions of the Republican Party that's complicating things.

00:10:52.560 Elon, of course, was a big part of that and it's a little murky what exactly his role will be with the Republican Party specifically going into 2028.

00:11:02.140 But people like Mark Andreessen, people like David Sachs, who are these big names in Silicon Valley, obviously numbers-wise in Silicon Valley is still largely for the Democrats.

00:11:12.320 But these people have been very outspoken in favor of Trump and in favor of Trump embracing things like crypto and digital currency and calling on less intense regulation on AI and more freedom to innovate in AI in a way that others in the party have been very reluctant to do.

00:11:34.780 They, of course, clashed with the number of populists over the issue of high-skill immigration and whether the country should be letting in these students and these workers from other countries to come in on these high-skill visas.

00:11:50.220 And then the last category we have, like the tech right, sort of newer to this Trump coalition, particularly in 2024.

00:11:56.820 The tech right, you know, we've seen that percolating for some years.

00:12:00.520 But in 2024 specifically, we saw a number of these former Democrats associated with Bobby Kennedy and people like Tulsi Gabbard, who said that they were part of the Maha movement.

00:12:13.540 They were brought into Trump's movement because they were really impressed with Kennedy endorsing Trump and becoming part of his coalition.

00:12:21.220 And they joined and we saw people like who were doing it because they were fed up with vaccine requirements and they wanted to get chemicals out of food and things like that.

00:12:33.440 But then we saw other people, other Democrats, people like Dave Portnoy and people like Joe Rogan, who aren't necessarily signing up to be part of this movement long term, but said, you know, Trump's the better bet.

00:12:44.920 I was a Democrat for a while, but like this is just common sense.

00:12:48.640 And so the question remains of what happens with these people in the midterms, in 2028, you know, can they be held into this coalition when really they only showed up for Trump?

00:13:04.900 Allison, can you hang on?

00:13:06.240 We're going to take a short commercial break.

00:13:07.500 I want to hold you through it because I think this is quite fascinating.

00:13:10.200 And it's a fascinating way to break it down.

00:13:15.060 And now you see one thing I add to people when I talk about the 1932 coalition of FDR.

00:13:23.440 He was around for 14 years.

00:13:25.640 That coalition had very liberal professors at Harvard with kind of what I call cracker Southern Democrats who, you know, a lot of them were KKK. 0.76

00:13:35.920 You had it with big city mayors in like Chicago, etc.

00:13:39.520 You had the Western farmers.

00:13:41.560 You had Wall Street operators, the Wall Street financiers.

00:13:44.820 It was a fascinating, it was engagement.

00:13:47.660 There was this group also had what we would call neocons of people that were interventionist, particularly interventionists in what they saw as the storms arising in Europe.

00:13:57.360 That coalition, and one of the reasons it stuck together, they had an extraordinary guy, whether you like his politics or not, an extraordinary leader that could tie that together.

00:14:06.700 But he was around for 14 years or 13 years as the leader of it.

00:14:11.260 And they were keeping good order and discipline the entire time when guys like Father Coughlin and some of these guys, Huey Long, got out of line, the populist.

00:14:19.560 In the 1930s when they didn't think they needed him anymore, they got rid of him.

00:14:23.040 So quite fascinating.

00:14:25.360 The question is going to be, particularly in that core group of number two, three, four, and five, the traditional Republicans, the old Tea Party, or limited government, what I call the limited government Republicans, the traditional religious right, and the tech right, the new tech bros.

00:14:37.200 Are they in shock when President Trump, and I think you saw it yesterday in the cabinet meeting, and then the actions of what we were talking about, Caroline Ren, for a lot of the rest of the show, the seizure of these institutions, taking investments in intel, 10% of intel, actually, you know, militarizing the police in Washington, D.C., now Chicago, New York.

00:14:57.200 Are they going to stick around for that?

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00:17:12.440 this thing very easily natalie allison for the washington post so natalie i'm going to take 0.95

00:17:16.960 your your your number two block is traditional republicans the neoliberal neocons your number

00:17:22.200 three block is the limited government republicans right which i used to call tiny towns ted cruz de

00:17:27.720 santos your your next one is the traditional religious right the evangelicals and then you've

00:17:33.260 got the tech bros okay so that for let's see the democrats aside given what president trump's done

00:17:38.480 over and folks this is where we get to the rest of our show given what he's done over the last couple

00:17:42.780 weeks and what i mean by that is breaking the mold of any really previous administration and talking

00:17:50.040 about an assertive kind of you know right and what i mean by that is like in the intel situation

00:17:56.160 lutnik was very open about this yesterday in the cabinet this is not a one-off deal

00:18:00.580 that i think right now particularly the defense industry and maybe the tech industry around that

00:18:06.120 they're looking at taking stakes in the in these companies either for government contracts or for

00:18:10.920 you know potential uh lending they have to so it's it's direct and that gets into picking winners

00:18:17.140 and losers and national champions so that's number one number two he's going after as i say in this

00:18:22.880 town the cia the federal reserve and centcom are the three most powerful institutions he's directly

00:18:27.820 challenging the independence of the federal reserve by going after the governors and obviously the

00:18:33.220 chairman but he's trying to restructure the federal reserve and bring it under direct

00:18:37.180 control of the white house he's also trying to do that the justice department right uh and number

00:18:42.640 three i think the other big one he's using what's happening with the federal control of washington it's

00:18:48.100 even stepping up over the last 24 hours right of of saying they're going to stay long in the 30 days

00:18:53.320 guys are going to have guns uh they're looking at both chicago new york city and los angeles

00:18:58.660 given that how do you think as you've done your analysis can you actually hold this coalition

00:19:05.400 together since so many of those traditional that four other group republicans that's anathema

00:19:11.420 to how they think their ideologies and how they've come up as people in political in their different

00:19:19.340 lanes how they've come up and and really been raised as political figures uh from from the beginning

00:19:25.400 of time for them ma'am well you know the question of holding it together in the midterms is i think

00:19:32.280 maybe a different question than the one of can it be held together in the next presidential election

00:19:36.720 and that would come down to who's on the ballot and i you obviously are someone who has your theories

00:19:41.820 about who is or isn't going to um wind up on the ballot but um you know in terms of holding the

00:19:49.020 coalition together no like we're on year 10 of republican traditional republican sensibilities

00:19:55.800 being offended by trump and you know i don't i don't think they're going to sit out the election

00:20:01.420 because trump is getting um a stake in intel or because he's keeping the national guard in dc longer

00:20:08.800 or because he's going after uh the fed or because he's going after more of these law firms and

00:20:15.320 universities we you know we've we've experienced that um flurry of action from him for months and

00:20:22.240 everyone has sort of accepted it now and they're biding their time and and we're not seeing this

00:20:28.480 um uprising within the traditional wing of the republican party like we saw in trump one still

00:20:33.680 happening at this point in his first term we're just not seeing that and there's no incentive for

00:20:39.240 these people to push back on it um because it doesn't matter they're going to get steamrolled it's not

00:20:43.320 going to go anywhere and so i know i i think the the coalition holds together in terms of those

00:20:49.060 groups the traditional republicans the tea party types religious right um the people who are going

00:20:53.360 to be voting for a republican on the ballot um no matter what now the the bigger question and i think

00:20:58.540 when you have done um a really good job of posing ahead of the midterms is what happens to the maga

00:21:04.460 populist are they going to show up in the midterms and like that's the bigger question i think

00:21:08.760 but these other groups these more traditional um aspects of the republican party uh the religious

00:21:15.840 right the tea party types the traditional republicans yeah i mean i they're going to show up in the midterms

00:21:20.560 now what happens in 2028 well who's on the ballot

00:21:23.720 natalie what kind of response did you get like i said most of the readers of the washington post don't

00:21:30.700 follow the clips or watch war room or any of the other blogs or or podcasts like ourselves what was the

00:21:36.800 response when you laid this out what response did it get a lot of traction and number two did you get

00:21:41.100 any feedback yeah it so it was our most read story on the website for most of yesterday um people were

00:21:47.760 really eating it up people were subscribing to the washington post to read what was in the story

00:21:51.940 because i think people really do want to understand trump's political movement it you know people

00:21:56.980 have a better idea of it than they did four years ago um but it still is a mystery to maybe half of

00:22:03.100 america who um understand that he's popular enough and understand that he brought in um groups and

00:22:09.800 and voters that the republican party has not been able to bring in for a long time he became the the

00:22:15.360 first republican since w to win the national popular vote so so people get that but people i think want to

00:22:21.120 know what exactly are these groups of people um who are making up the republican party and what about

00:22:27.600 trump is it that's bringing them in because they all have a different idea of what it means to be a trump

00:22:31.860 reporter um in terms of feedback yeah i mean it was really fascinating i was getting emails from

00:22:36.700 readers uh saying they learned something from this and this is really informative and so i think people

00:22:42.040 are just really um curious and they're still trying to grasp on how trump has done it and what it means for

00:22:49.500 the republican party in the coming elections given um this is in many ways a pretty fragile alliance

00:22:57.520 natalie what's your uh what's your social media how do people follow you and how they follow your

00:23:04.660 reporting over at the washington post yeah so i am on x um natalie n-a-t-a-l-i-e underscore allison

00:23:12.280 and um i'm in the washington post washington post.com um you can search my name there and find my stories

00:23:19.540 i'm covering the white house but i also have spent you know the last several years covering

00:23:22.960 the maga movement um the unsuccessful attempt republicans took to uh bring trump down in the

00:23:30.140 republican primary and just where the the republican party is going from here so um i'd love to connect

00:23:35.460 with anybody if you have thoughts on what you're reading the post and um what you'd like to see more

00:23:41.220 coverage of she's got the maga beat over at the white house for the washington post natalie allison

00:23:48.140 thank you so much brilliant article and thank you for joining us this morning appreciate it

00:23:51.820 thanks caroline wren observations on uh on this breakdown because it's gotten a lot of uh and i

00:24:01.020 think it shows you particularly for the audience how we talk about this stuff every day and the

00:24:04.720 war and posse and we're deep into this but you you have to realize that i think right now people are

00:24:11.920 coming to the conclusion that trump's just not a passing you know fad that it was you know we call it

00:24:18.000 the age of trump not the era trump and and and so the one of the washington post does something

00:24:22.360 like this it it shows you their people are curious because they understand trump and trumpism is not

00:24:28.100 going to go away and they're trying to understand what that means in their perspective for the country

00:24:33.440 their own personal position in whether in power and or uh monetarily etc so what are your thoughts on

00:24:40.540 this well i couldn't read the article because i uh would rather die than pay money to the washington

00:24:48.260 post to read their opinions on frankly anything um so i i um i can use it if i find a copy for you

00:24:54.600 know to help with fire or things like that but uh just listening to the analysis um i mean what what

00:25:00.760 trump is famous for and why i love him is that he listens to a wide range of voices and then he makes a

00:25:06.340 decision himself and we obviously have many factions in the maga movement and those factions publicly fight

00:25:12.520 over the future of the party and of our country but what i love about this trump administration is

00:25:17.720 they allow these fights to happen they listen to dissenting voices they take them into account for

00:25:22.460 example uh i think we should be very very loud in our opposition to the recent decision by the trump

00:25:28.300 administration to allow 600 000 chinese spies back into our universities i know i plan to be very vocal 0.98

00:25:35.000 in my opposition to that i think the war room is going to be very vocal and the goal is that we

00:25:39.860 hope that we can convince president trump and his administration to reverse course on that and they

00:25:44.860 they do he listens to the base he listens and oftentimes they will kind of test the boundaries

00:25:49.740 put out a policy like that and see how loud the opposition is which is why it is so important to have

00:25:55.760 groups like the war room to be loud and they will hopefully listen to this feedback and this is a far cry

00:26:01.940 different from the democrat party the democrat party allows no dissenting voices i mean they literally

00:26:07.120 canceled their primary in 2024 to anoint kamala harris they changed the primary rules to make sure

00:26:13.720 biden could win and remember they stole the primary from bernie sanders in 2020 and so as a result of that

00:26:20.020 i mean they are the weakest that they have been since i would argue 1984 um now as far as the faction she

00:26:27.620 laid out there is one faction that i think is going to define the future of the maga movement

00:26:32.720 and what we do about them and that is big tech big tech is at odds with every single other faction that

00:26:39.800 she laid out for example the religious faction big tech these guys are they are atheists they they believe

00:26:45.340 in no religion they have no spiritual got they're guided by money and power and so that's going to be a

00:26:51.060 natural you know uh fight that happens there then you could also have the you know the the libertarians

00:26:56.460 who she laid out the ran paul's well big tech lives and breathes off of government handouts that is and

00:27:02.960 so they are obviously going to be at odds there and then with the populist movement i mean big tech

00:27:08.140 represents everything we are against and by the way this is not a faction or coalition you are talking

00:27:12.980 about a handful of billionaires in silicon valley that have a way too much influence over our government

00:27:20.440 over our uh our economy over the world economy and this is going to be the fight the fight for the

00:27:27.280 heart of the maga movement the fight for the heart of our country is coming and it is against one

00:27:32.140 faction she laid out and that is big tech

00:27:33.920 uh caroline stick around well you're gonna be with me for hopefully first time maybe even a little

00:27:41.420 longer caroline rent caroline you're back off of your audition for uh below decks we're now we've you're you're

00:27:48.880 you're back and you're working again i know i thought we had to get you today from the aegean

00:27:52.940 sea or something on the remote off of albania i keep hearing albania is the new hot spot of

00:27:58.440 croatia is the new hot spot uh there so anyway welcome back we do have caroline rent she's back 0.99

00:28:03.900 at work she's back at work she's back at work she's back at work finally um we're gonna take a short

00:28:10.800 commercial break nate morris is gonna address i think nate's actually gonna be in the war room

00:28:14.680 we're gonna talk more about this this coming fight maybe even how you hold this coalition

00:28:19.540 together short commercial break back in the warm in just a moment

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00:31:01.760 caroline here's the thing there's almost a thousand the engine room tells almost a thousand comments on

00:31:07.820 the on the on the washington post story it is in in the war during even some of the comments hey we

00:31:13.720 know this stuff yes this is because the power of the war and posse is that you are the most informed

00:31:18.900 part of a political movement really in history the level of detail you know about capital markets the

00:31:24.760 economy national security geopolitics before they didn't think blue collar middle class audiences

00:31:29.700 had any interest in that you guys understand i think about the washington post is supposedly the

00:31:35.180 paper of record for politics the paper of record of the imperial capital uh and this article what you

00:31:42.080 think maybe is pretty rudimentary is kind of a a uh a flat it's a real uh it's revelatory for the people

00:31:49.880 that are opposed against us uh caroline wren your thoughts i got nate morris we're gonna get to nate

00:31:54.720 here in a moment because he's fighting the fight in the trenches every day against the mcconnell machine

00:31:58.860 out in kentuck uh your thoughts ma'am well the washington compost um i think i just i can't take too

00:32:07.580 seriously what these reporters who just sit in washington dc new york city and los angeles and

00:32:12.840 they lecture to us about where they think the movement is going like these people have absolutely

00:32:17.580 no idea they talk to other political consultants who give their different opinions i mean yes of course

00:32:22.700 obviously every movement has a you know a section of factions of the religious right the like the these

00:32:28.720 to me were were obvious things but i do think we should be having these discussions though on how do

00:32:34.500 these factions come together and what are we all working towards and again i believe that all the

00:32:39.020 factions that she lays out um you know in the segment before i came on the unifying part of all

00:32:45.160 of them should be the threat of big tech i mean i i understand that ai is coming but what what nobody's

00:32:51.520 doing on either party is talking to the american people and explaining that hey millions of jobs in

00:32:58.280 the heart of our country are about to go away be wiped out it is happening right now and

00:33:03.620 the future of i think both political parties is going to be defined by this and frankly steve you've

00:33:09.360 been one of the only people willing to talk about it and natalie mentioned in her segment she said you

00:33:14.520 know a good example of the breaking factions is joe rogan and dave portnoy who are kind of online

00:33:19.680 podcast folks personally i'm concerned about tim dylan and for those of you if you don't if you listen

00:33:25.000 to tim dylan he's a comedian who's also fairly political never he wasn't that political before but

00:33:30.000 became a you know vocal trump supporter over the last year he he i think is laying out some very

00:33:36.740 real concerns that trump supporters should have even of our own administration and they are all

00:33:40.760 centralized around you know the threat of big tech the what the amount of power that we're giving to

00:33:45.780 palantir and then he also talks about israel being a big concern look even myself i was an unapologetic

00:33:51.580 supporter of israel in fact i was recruited on campus by apac to visit on one of their indoctrination

00:33:58.240 trips that people talked about here i went on that i then went to israel i think probably 10 times over

00:34:03.380 the last 15 years and it wasn't until the last year on your show and voices like tucker carlson and

00:34:09.420 tim dylan that made me completely rethink why why do i have this unwavering support of israel this is

00:34:16.240 kind of bizarre and it's not america first this is why the factions fighting and having these public

00:34:21.540 discussions and debates is so important i have completely moved on my opinions on that issue but that

00:34:27.580 is because of really strong debates that have happened in our party and that we allow it to

00:34:32.040 happen so um you know i i uh i think that we are still unified behind trump i think all these factions

00:34:39.120 98 of things we agree agree on but big tech they are the ones that we need to unify against

00:34:45.060 caroline hang on you're gonna be with me right in shotgun here for a while uh nate morris nate you're

00:34:51.940 running in a very tough primary against really one of the most when you break down these these groups

00:34:57.820 really group number two the number two power group what they call the traditional republicans is really

00:35:03.920 the party of mitch mcconnell this is where he's helped build this neoliberal neocon they still have

00:35:08.820 tremendous power in washington dc and particularly in the united states senate where they kind of

00:35:13.860 they run the deal uh tell us about your campaign are you getting any traction because um you know as the

00:35:20.140 the maga movement and the populist nationalist right despise mitch mcconnell he has built up

00:35:26.380 a tremendous political machine in kentucky uh and he's got a lot of acolytes there sir

00:35:32.360 yeah steve as you know i got in this race because i saw two career politicians and two people in the

00:35:41.860 race that were solely loyal to mitch mcconnell and they would be a repeat of mitch mcconnell and i said

00:35:47.360 we cannot have this and steve i've never run for office before i'm not a career politician

00:35:53.160 i'm a business guy i built a business took it public and i said i gotta get in this race because

00:35:58.480 we do not have an america first candidate and we'd get more of the same with these two guys that are

00:36:03.780 running and steve as you know mitch is pulling out every stop he can we just learned uh about a week

00:36:09.540 or so ago that my two opponents were actually colluding together to create a super pack to take us out

00:36:16.220 and guess who was funding it steve it was mitch mcconnell mitch mcconnell was going to drive all

00:36:20.980 this money to come after us because we are the first candidate to contrast his record and to show

00:36:27.160 all the things that he's done to president trump from blaming him for january 6 uh to doing all the

00:36:32.980 stuff behind the scenes that he's done all the money that he's pumped into ukraine we are fighting

00:36:38.000 against all this and steve what i'm so excited about is when i travel kentucky the grassroots we are

00:36:43.620 fired up and we are excited about taking back the seat and giving it to the people once and for all

00:36:49.820 mitch mcconnell's been there for 40 years and he's trying to live uh another 40 through one of his two

00:36:56.460 puppets and we can't let that happen in kentucky and that's what this campaign's all about steve

00:37:01.180 this is what i think if you can help explain the audience the disconnect this actually gets back to

00:37:07.800 this article in the in the in the post because i would argue what natalie lays out is there is a

00:37:13.340 still a power structure that we really haven't moved that far off the dime uh with with in the

00:37:20.380 rise of president trump and we're burning daylight to do it in kentucky you've got one of the most

00:37:25.060 powerful uh mega movements of people that support president trump you know just diehard uh trump

00:37:31.940 supporters um you've also got mitch mcconnell which you said on his policies are diametrically

00:37:38.560 opposed plus he personally the vindictiveness that mitch mcconnell's had against the president is

00:37:43.960 legendary inside the capitol and and half of those stories aren't even known to the public but it's

00:37:48.780 just been vicious uh of mitch mcconnell leading this one of the reasons we detest him um but how does

00:37:55.160 that get translated in when you got a political machine and particularly it's a national campaign

00:38:01.040 because this is mitch mcconnell's legacy all he's got is the legacy that he had from the senate he's

00:38:06.780 got every donor every big donor all the corporatists he's got all the globalists uh they're going to

00:38:12.680 sit there and just fight you to the end over that legacy so how what's your battle plan of how you

00:38:17.960 beat these guys when they have the advantage of a political apparatus and the money well see there's

00:38:24.460 only one way to handle mitch mcconnell's machine and that's absolute brute force and that's why we've

00:38:30.340 been so aggressive in this campaign steve as you know we went up on air uh several weeks ago and i

00:38:36.300 think the people of kentucky are so excited about a choice finally that we can get away from these

00:38:41.920 these two puppets that mitch was trying to jam into kentucky uh so his cronies his lobbyists could get a 0.98

00:38:48.880 second life uh after his term is up and that's what this candidacy is all about and steve we're going

00:38:55.160 to need every bit of the grassroots to fight it because they're throwing all kinds of money

00:38:59.000 they're colluding on the super pack as i told you about and they're going to they're not going to

00:39:03.640 go quietly and we are rupturing uh the establishment and steve we are going to disassemble mitch mcconnell's

00:39:11.340 establishment brick by brick uh in this campaign and finally showcase that we can have a candidate that

00:39:19.000 stands with president trump that stands with the america first agenda and is not there just to hold

00:39:24.020 power for the next 40 years like mitch mcconnell and his puppets would do but uh it's going to be

00:39:29.300 a dogfight steve and um the only way to handle it is to get very very aggressive and we know they're

00:39:35.520 going to come at us i mean mitch mcconnell's already starting to attack me i mean he's called

00:39:39.960 every activist every donor every person in kentucky that has an impact on this race to say

00:39:45.080 stay away from this campaign and the grassroots are not going to have it and our people are not going

00:39:50.340 to have it because they know that this is the only way we're going to bring changes we got to fight it

00:39:54.720 and i'm willing to fight for every kentuckian uh to bring something new and to bring a breath of fresh

00:40:00.980 air and to get rid of these mitch puppets once and for all where do people go people that want to find 0.99

00:40:08.500 out more about you more about where you stand on this and particularly how they can assist because

00:40:12.900 this is a this is a this primary will be the this in texas will be the two national primaries for

00:40:20.080 the republican party cornyn um you know versus our guy our great attorney general paxton down there

00:40:26.740 uh for the senate and uh and what's happening in kentucky so where do people go to find out more

00:40:31.960 about you social media the website the campaign because right now people got to get on top of this

00:40:36.740 uh because we're burning daylight and this is a big one if if you're a trump supporter

00:40:41.940 and you've been offended by how mitch mcconnell has been uh so viciously not just dismissive of the

00:40:49.060 president but behind the scenes just knifed him every opportunity and then you take the policies

00:40:53.760 right these out of control policies everything's for the big corporations the entire ukraine

00:40:57.580 fiasco that we finally defeated uh mcconnell and that's when he had to step down for leadership

00:41:02.960 uh if you're a maga supporter throughout the nation this is your race the texas race and uh in this race

00:41:10.120 are and the reason texas is big because cornyn is one of mitch mcconnell's guys right in paxton's

00:41:15.600 grassroots so this is where the grassroots are going to have two great shots and you're not

00:41:20.080 going to have a better shot than right here in kentucky so where do they go nate where people go

00:41:25.020 to find everything and if they want to uh sign up if they want to support you they want to come out

00:41:29.420 and see you know go to a rally if they want to have financial support where do they go

00:41:32.980 sure thank you steve as you know this is a fight against the uniparty the deep state

00:41:38.120 come and see me at natemorris.com come be part of this movement we need all the help we can get

00:41:44.660 get involved in this campaign contribute to this campaign find us on x at nate morris uh but we

00:41:51.880 are going to finally as president trump said rid the stench of mitch out of kentucky once and for all 0.91

00:41:58.340 and we're going to do it right here with you guys uh on election day so thank you so much steve for

00:42:04.100 having me on anytime you got an open invitation people are fascinated by this race fascinated by you

00:42:10.740 they understand you've got a a tough hill to climb and it's uh but it's as we say in the war room

00:42:15.500 these are fights that matter right this is a fight that matters nate morris thank you so much for

00:42:20.760 dropping by the war room today thank you steve caroline we got a minute tell the audience

00:42:28.280 a guy like nate morris when you take on mitch mcconnell in that apparatus how how tough how tough a fight is

00:42:34.460 that ma'am well it's a very tough fight and this comes back to the money always and senate leadership

00:42:40.740 fund was the you know the super pack that uh mitch mcconnell and stephen law always ran now that that

00:42:46.780 super pack has been handed over to hopefully trump it's supposed to be trump run now but i have my own

00:42:53.480 concerns with it that pack is actually spending uh tens of millions of dollars to support john cornyn

00:42:58.980 and so i i always like to follow the money so when it comes to nate morris's race i like everything

00:43:03.700 that i just heard on your show but i want to see who are the donors that are supporting him who are

00:43:08.280 the donors that are supporting his opponents what are these you know establishment super packs doing

00:43:12.800 and then i want to probably support the opposite of that so uh i think that i want to watch these

00:43:18.320 primaries play out see where president trump comes in on it um i do know there are two the two candidates

00:43:23.440 nate morris was referencing as his opponents are absolutely mcconnell back candidates and mitch mcconnell

00:43:28.820 absolutely hates uh nate morris and so that means he's probably the best candidate in that race

00:43:33.520 hang hang on for one second we'll take a short commercial break we're going to be back seize

00:43:40.000 the institutions is the watchword president trump's doing it back in the warm in just a moment

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00:45:08.780 the threats we heard today against chris christie and former and some of uh former president biden's aides

00:45:15.760 what are we looking at here well look uh you know john bolton was one of many people who predicted

00:45:22.960 what he called a retribution presidency donald trump was one of the other people who predicted a

00:45:27.900 retribution presidency he wasn't hiding this agenda step he was very clear uh on the campaign trail in

00:45:34.740 2024 and since he's returned to office uh he is all about revenge retribution uh and what strikes me

00:45:43.580 is that he is feelings you know enough of a power rush that he's not really even trying to hide

00:45:49.220 this agenda at this point anymore nor are many of his advisors cash patel his fbi director swore under oath

00:45:56.300 during his confirmation hearing in january oh no we don't have an enemies list oh no i would never

00:46:02.240 ever allow the fbi to be used as a target of retribution uh and here we are just a few months later

00:46:09.780 and chris christie says something that donald trump doesn't like on television and trump immediately

00:46:15.520 responds he should be investigated using uh the powers of the federal justice department and i you

00:46:22.700 know again he's blatant about the linkage in a way that i think is concerning especially at a moment when

00:46:29.140 he is seeking to essentially militarize america cities this notion a new executive order today says uh that

00:46:37.180 he's going to call out troops or use the national guard to quell disturbances that do not exist i am

00:46:42.560 a resident of the district of columbia there is no civil disturbance in the district of columbia and

00:46:49.980 i just you have to wonder you know is there is there any institution left that can put a meaningful

00:46:57.080 legal check on donald trump tonight do i say we have to seize the institutions now they are out of power

00:47:03.940 and they know the smart ones know they're out of power we control both houses of congress we call

00:47:09.000 the legislature we control the executive branch we control the courts um governor hochel kathy

00:47:16.240 hochel said that she spoke to you on the phone and you said you might send national guard troops to new

00:47:21.020 york you mentioned that so will you i'd love to do it if she'd like i get along with kathy

00:47:26.000 if she'd like to do that i would do it yes go ahead for a lot of victims like myself a big concern is

00:47:33.580 long-term sustainability who share with more with the american public about your plan and ensuring that

00:47:38.880 dc is saving a long term longer term yeah well uh it's a great question number one we want to stay

00:47:45.640 there for longer than 30 days as you know we have an absolute mandate and i can extend it but i'd rather

00:47:51.000 not have to declare a national emergency because by that time i mean right now there's not an

00:47:56.040 emergency we've done as you sort of said yourself it feels like a different world and today the fed

00:48:02.000 governor lisa cook says she is fighting trump's attempt to fire her cook says trump has no authority

00:48:07.860 to remove her and she will not resign her attorney abby lowell says they will sue because the firing

00:48:14.280 lacks any factual or legal basis but the wall street journal reports that donald trump wants to move fast

00:48:20.200 in naming someone to take her spot on the fed's board the journal says two potential candidates

00:48:25.720 are white house economic advisor steven mirin and former world bank group president david malpass

00:48:31.440 and the news nbc news has not confirmed this it seems to have had an infraction and she can't have

00:48:37.100 an infraction especially that infraction because she's in charge of if you think about it mortgages and 1.00

00:48:42.440 we need people that are 100 above board and it doesn't seem like she was but tonight cook says

00:48:48.740 she'll sue to keep her job writing president trump purported to fire me for cause when no cause exists 0.81

00:48:54.780 under the law and he has no authority to do so i will not resign burn it down they're just anti

00:49:00.480 institutionalists you know uh alex wagner they we're the ones that protect the institutions no alex

00:49:06.140 we're grabbing the institutions and taking power as the american people the way our constitutional system

00:49:12.480 works gave president trump the authority to do so we're going to deconstruct the administrative state

00:49:19.360 we're going to purge the deep state and the executive branch we're going to take over the senate 0.99

00:49:25.920 and we control the house already oh by the way the judiciary you're not going to get your judges

00:49:33.640 through they're all going to be trump judges i want you to you're on the fetal position so i'm 0.98

00:49:38.140 going to give you something really suck your thumbs about we are in charge okay the american people 0.97

00:49:44.760 have spoken in a statement the fed acknowledged cook's lawsuit fighting trump's move and says it 0.97

00:49:50.760 will abide by any court decision but i want to make something abundantly clear the president wants you to

00:49:58.120 think he is trying to fire lisa cook because of alleged mortgage fraud this is not about mortgage fraud

00:50:03.980 he has been trashing the fed decisions for months now because he wants rates to be lower because he

00:50:10.780 wants equity prices to soar this is not about mortgage fraud just like sending national guard

00:50:16.800 troops to washington dc and potentially other cities is not really about spikes in crime just like

00:50:23.460 attacking universities and forcing big payouts is not really about fighting and stopping anti-semitism

00:50:30.340 just like punishing law firms who work for people trump doesn't like is not about diversity equity

00:50:36.700 and inclusion there's a very clear theme here this is all about control and finding as many ways as

00:50:44.120 possible to amass as much power as possible in the presidency that is what this is about when you

00:50:52.680 seize the institutions let's seize them this is what the left this is why the country's in such a bad

00:50:58.780 shape this is why the republican party for years has been the controlled opposition this rot in our

00:51:05.000 institution you think it just occurred overnight decade after decade after decade tapping it along

00:51:12.280 okay the lead story in axios right now is president trump seizes the institutions

00:51:18.920 we told you that was coming and now it's a full meltdown scott besant pretty safe pair of hands there

00:51:24.240 scott besant just i think it was on fox business said they ought to prosecute uh lisa cook the

00:51:30.660 governor of the federal reserve it's happening over the federal reserve they're going to be in court on

00:51:34.300 that dave weigel the great dave weigel at semaphore breaking a big story the lead story over at

00:51:41.360 semaphore wait for it republican voters now 53 47 support president trump running for a third term

00:51:50.340 i kid you not told you this day was coming of course that's how we're connecting uh natalie

00:51:57.500 allison's fractious coalition to what's happening now caroline runoff talked her in for staying at 1.00

00:52:04.020 least for part of the next block want to talk about bill gates want to talk about arabella the dark

00:52:10.340 money sources for the left also the seizing of the institutions and uh we're very honored we're gonna have

00:52:18.060 watch them monthly here i think on the most unique guide to colleges that's ever been published

00:52:26.780 also edward bolsonaro his father it's getting darker and darker in brazil uh for president

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Bannon's War Room - August 27, 2025

Episode 4736： The Six Factions Of Trump World; Keeping Kentucky MAGA

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