Stephen K. Bannon is joined by Caroline Redd, Nate Morris, Scott Besant, and Eduardo Bolsonaro to discuss the latest on the Federal Reserve and the crisis at the central bank. Plus, a special edition of War Room: A Conservative Guide to College, and a new piece from The Washington Post's Natalie Allison on the power structure within the Republican Party.
00:02:01.440I want to start with Natalie Allison over at The Washington Post, fascinating piece that came out yesterday, really on the coalition, as we keep talking about.
00:02:10.780And this gets to the redistricting and the big fight in 2026.
00:02:13.460The Democrats have hinted to this morning, I think, something that's quite fascinating.
00:02:43.420Part of this is about coalition, building a coalition and coalition government and building a coalition like we talk about FDR and the folks did back in after the Great Depression in 1932.
00:02:54.940A dude that essentially governed the country, even through the Reagan Revolution, really, until Newt Gingrich came along, but governed the country, I don't know, for 80 years.
00:03:03.360Natalie Allison joins us about the, what is it, the six factions that compose this fractious movement that President Trump's got to hold together.
00:03:13.280Natalie, can you just break it down for our audience?
00:03:15.820What are the, let's start at the top, the 60,000 foot, what are, what are the big groups?
00:03:21.220And then we'll talk about the interconnectivity or maybe the lack of interconnectivity of some of the, some of the tasks and purposes of your different groups as you break it down, ma'am.
00:03:31.460Yeah, well, thanks for having me on, Steve.
00:03:34.120It's good to be here talking to the War Room Posse.
00:03:36.960You were remiss, though, to mention the latest institution that seems like Trump has brought to heel, that being Cracker Barrel.
00:03:43.680So I hope that you'll reserve some time on your show to talk about that today.
00:03:50.720Basically, you know, this is something that at the Post we had been kicking around for a while, this idea of explaining for readers.
00:03:58.760And these are, you know, the Washington Post readers are not necessarily people who are spending a lot of time taking in conservative media or necessarily all really familiar with what the makeup of today's Republican Party is.
00:04:11.320So we thought it would be a service to our readers to just explain who these groups are, these subgroups within the Republican Party.
00:04:21.340We saw that a lot with, with Elon being on the stage so frequently, you know, when Trump right before inauguration was, was getting ready to reenter office.
00:04:31.640There was the big fight over the H-1B visas.
00:04:35.460And so, like, our readers have taken in a lot of content about Republican infighting, but we were trying to break down who exactly these groups are.
00:04:43.020And so, of course, we started with the MAGA populace in your figurehead for that group.
00:04:48.780And when people think about Trump supporters, this is the group of people they are thinking of.
00:04:53.520This is the group of people who were with Trump from the beginning, in many cases, in 2016.
00:04:57.820Lots of other subgroups within the Republican Party have come around to Trump or now tolerate Trump, have figured out, you know,
00:05:03.960what kind of bargain they're going to make with themselves and each other to be OK with Trump.
00:05:08.080But the populace were the ones who were originally there for him.
00:05:11.780And that's the core of Trump's base right now.
00:05:16.360So we mentioned people like you, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, like J.D. Vance, who, of course, is trying to project himself as a key populace figure going into 2028.
00:05:25.760He, of course, has leaned into his working class roots as he's told his story on the national political stage.
00:05:32.040But this is a group of people that, you know, are more likely to support tariffs.
00:05:37.720And these are the people who are more likely to oppose high-skilled immigration being OK'd and are upset that Trump has, you know,
00:05:47.580suggested that we're going to we're going to carve out exceptions for hotel workers and farm workers.
00:05:54.480These are the people who stand out for hours waiting to see Trump at a rally.
00:05:58.020So that's the first group. And do you want to go into the others?
00:06:02.760Do you want to talk about the big picture of these factions?
00:06:05.160Yeah, no, no, no. Let's go. Let's go to the second, because I think you lay it out, particularly for your readers.
00:06:09.380You know, don't watch War Room or maybe not, you know, go to the Jack Posobiec podcast or Real America's Voice or read some of the blogs that are right wing.
00:06:17.140You're I think what's fascinating is that you lay out the case of kind of the populace. Right.
00:06:21.280And you're saying most of your readers think that's all the Trump thing is.
00:06:24.380I want to go through the other groups because you realize as you go through it, as you describe it,
00:06:28.700which I think is quite accurate there, there's there's certain aspects of the Venn diagram that does not overlap.
00:06:36.040And that gets to be the coalition of how you keep it together, particularly as you get into the legislation
00:06:41.580and you get into policies and executive orders and all that.
00:06:44.820So once you go, so the populace kind of nationalists are the what people think is the core group you've laid that out.
00:06:51.560Then take us through the other the other five factions of this fractious coalition.
00:06:57.200Yeah. And to be clear, so there are groups that don't overlap and there are groups that do overlap.
00:07:01.760You know, it's imperfect to put everyone in a very clean box.
00:07:05.920J.D. Vance, for example, is someone who is also really associated with the tech right.
00:07:10.520Lindsey Graham, we know, is somebody who is, you know, through and through a traditional Republican,
00:07:15.060but has really been a key ally for the religious right in introducing anti-abortion legislation.
00:07:19.960So let's get that out of the way, too.
00:07:21.620But the next group is what we would call the traditional Republicans.
00:07:25.100This is the John Thune, Lindsey Graham, you know, Glenn Youngkin types,
00:07:30.520the people who are the old Chamber of Commerce type of Republicans that were pre-Trump.
00:07:35.760Really, they were the dominant force in the party, of course, for many years.
00:07:40.160And a lot of MAGA people, you know, you guys like to say sometimes, not you necessarily,
00:07:45.140but people like to say that they're irrelevant and that this wing of the party is dead.
00:07:48.240But we can see that they're still getting a number of things done that they want.
00:07:52.740They, you know, obviously have been very opposed to the rise of pro-labor sentiment in the Republican Party.
00:08:01.060And they've tried to shut that down and they've had some success with that.
00:08:05.220This is obviously where many of the donors for many years in the party have lived.
00:08:09.080And we're seeing that changing to some extent.
00:08:10.900But by and large, this is still a really relevant group.
00:08:14.440Thune being the leader of the Senate, of course, demonstrates that.
00:08:21.340The next group we'll get into is sort of the old Tea Party, Fiscal Hawk, Libertarian Street group.
00:08:28.220So we list Ted Cruz, Ron DeSantis, Ron Paul as examples of that.
00:08:35.720So, you know, some of these people have different interests.
00:08:39.000People like Ron Paul are more on the libertarian side of that.
00:08:42.040But these are the people who really care more than anything about small government, fiscal responsibility, cutting the deficit, cutting the debt.
00:08:50.840And a number of these people, Ron Paul and Thomas Massey, of course, included, have really come under fire from President Trump for not going along with everything the president wants in his agenda.
00:09:03.180And you see Thomas Massey speaking out not just on fiscal matters, but, of course, with, you know, the flag burning order that Trump is signing.
00:09:12.960And, of course, he also has been very outspoken, along with a number of the MAGA populists, about Epstein.
00:09:18.340But, you know, a lot of squeaky wheels in this group.
00:09:21.380And Ron DeSantis, before he became the governor of Florida, he sort of tried to make a name for himself in Congress as someone in the Tea Party, as a founding member of the House Freedom Caucus.
00:09:31.740Another group that is sort of another one of these traditional, the last several decades, Republican groups is the religious right.
00:09:41.620And they had their big moment in Trump's first term.
00:09:46.900They, you know, Trump gave him a lot of credit for helping get him elected, getting evangelicals on board with Trump when a lot of others in the party weren't.
00:09:57.220But right now they're not quite as relevant.
00:10:00.000They're still getting what they need to from Trump.
00:10:03.040They unsuccessfully tried to keep the party platform really anti-abortion and calling for a national abortion ban and a human life amendment.
00:10:13.060And they didn't succeed with that last year.
00:10:14.720And people like Tony Perkins and Marjorie Dannenfelser, they tried to get Trump to embrace calling for a national abortion ban and other Republicans in the Republican primary last year to do that.
00:10:28.180And so their influence certainly seems to have waned in some ways, but they're still having a lot of success.
00:10:34.080Obviously, the Dobbs decision was a huge victory for them and really what they had been working for for many years.
00:10:39.740And so in a lot of ways, they have what they need right now.
00:10:42.600So the tech right, this is one of – so this is one of the two sort of newer factions of the Republican Party that's complicating things.
00:10:52.560Elon, of course, was a big part of that and it's a little murky what exactly his role will be with the Republican Party specifically going into 2028.
00:11:02.140But people like Mark Andreessen, people like David Sachs, who are these big names in Silicon Valley, obviously numbers-wise in Silicon Valley is still largely for the Democrats.
00:11:12.320But these people have been very outspoken in favor of Trump and in favor of Trump embracing things like crypto and digital currency and calling on less intense regulation on AI and more freedom to innovate in AI in a way that others in the party have been very reluctant to do.
00:11:34.780They, of course, clashed with the number of populists over the issue of high-skill immigration and whether the country should be letting in these students and these workers from other countries to come in on these high-skill visas.
00:11:50.220And then the last category we have, like the tech right, sort of newer to this Trump coalition, particularly in 2024.
00:11:56.820The tech right, you know, we've seen that percolating for some years.
00:12:00.520But in 2024 specifically, we saw a number of these former Democrats associated with Bobby Kennedy and people like Tulsi Gabbard, who said that they were part of the Maha movement.
00:12:13.540They were brought into Trump's movement because they were really impressed with Kennedy endorsing Trump and becoming part of his coalition.
00:12:21.220And they joined and we saw people like who were doing it because they were fed up with vaccine requirements and they wanted to get chemicals out of food and things like that.
00:12:33.440But then we saw other people, other Democrats, people like Dave Portnoy and people like Joe Rogan, who aren't necessarily signing up to be part of this movement long term, but said, you know, Trump's the better bet.
00:12:44.920I was a Democrat for a while, but like this is just common sense.
00:12:48.640And so the question remains of what happens with these people in the midterms, in 2028, you know, can they be held into this coalition when really they only showed up for Trump?
00:13:25.640That coalition had very liberal professors at Harvard with kind of what I call cracker Southern Democrats who, you know, a lot of them were KKK.
00:13:35.920You had it with big city mayors in like Chicago, etc.
00:13:41.560You had Wall Street operators, the Wall Street financiers.
00:13:44.820It was a fascinating, it was engagement.
00:13:47.660There was this group also had what we would call neocons of people that were interventionist, particularly interventionists in what they saw as the storms arising in Europe.
00:13:57.360That coalition, and one of the reasons it stuck together, they had an extraordinary guy, whether you like his politics or not, an extraordinary leader that could tie that together.
00:14:06.700But he was around for 14 years or 13 years as the leader of it.
00:14:11.260And they were keeping good order and discipline the entire time when guys like Father Coughlin and some of these guys, Huey Long, got out of line, the populist.
00:14:19.560In the 1930s when they didn't think they needed him anymore, they got rid of him.
00:14:25.360The question is going to be, particularly in that core group of number two, three, four, and five, the traditional Republicans, the old Tea Party, or limited government, what I call the limited government Republicans, the traditional religious right, and the tech right, the new tech bros.
00:14:37.200Are they in shock when President Trump, and I think you saw it yesterday in the cabinet meeting, and then the actions of what we were talking about, Caroline Ren, for a lot of the rest of the show, the seizure of these institutions, taking investments in intel, 10% of intel, actually, you know, militarizing the police in Washington, D.C., now Chicago, New York.
00:14:57.200Are they going to stick around for that?
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00:17:12.440this thing very easily natalie allison for the washington post so natalie i'm going to take
00:17:16.960your your your number two block is traditional republicans the neoliberal neocons your number
00:17:22.200three block is the limited government republicans right which i used to call tiny towns ted cruz de
00:17:27.720santos your your next one is the traditional religious right the evangelicals and then you've
00:17:33.260got the tech bros okay so that for let's see the democrats aside given what president trump's done
00:17:38.480over and folks this is where we get to the rest of our show given what he's done over the last couple
00:17:42.780weeks and what i mean by that is breaking the mold of any really previous administration and talking
00:17:50.040about an assertive kind of you know right and what i mean by that is like in the intel situation
00:17:56.160lutnik was very open about this yesterday in the cabinet this is not a one-off deal
00:18:00.580that i think right now particularly the defense industry and maybe the tech industry around that
00:18:06.120they're looking at taking stakes in the in these companies either for government contracts or for
00:18:10.920you know potential uh lending they have to so it's it's direct and that gets into picking winners
00:18:17.140and losers and national champions so that's number one number two he's going after as i say in this
00:18:22.880town the cia the federal reserve and centcom are the three most powerful institutions he's directly
00:18:27.820challenging the independence of the federal reserve by going after the governors and obviously the
00:18:33.220chairman but he's trying to restructure the federal reserve and bring it under direct
00:18:37.180control of the white house he's also trying to do that the justice department right uh and number
00:18:42.640three i think the other big one he's using what's happening with the federal control of washington it's
00:18:48.100even stepping up over the last 24 hours right of of saying they're going to stay long in the 30 days
00:18:53.320guys are going to have guns uh they're looking at both chicago new york city and los angeles
00:18:58.660given that how do you think as you've done your analysis can you actually hold this coalition
00:19:05.400together since so many of those traditional that four other group republicans that's anathema
00:19:11.420to how they think their ideologies and how they've come up as people in political in their different
00:19:19.340lanes how they've come up and and really been raised as political figures uh from from the beginning
00:19:25.400of time for them ma'am well you know the question of holding it together in the midterms is i think
00:19:32.280maybe a different question than the one of can it be held together in the next presidential election
00:19:36.720and that would come down to who's on the ballot and i you obviously are someone who has your theories
00:19:41.820about who is or isn't going to um wind up on the ballot but um you know in terms of holding the
00:19:49.020coalition together no like we're on year 10 of republican traditional republican sensibilities
00:19:55.800being offended by trump and you know i don't i don't think they're going to sit out the election
00:20:01.420because trump is getting um a stake in intel or because he's keeping the national guard in dc longer
00:20:08.800or because he's going after uh the fed or because he's going after more of these law firms and
00:20:15.320universities we you know we've we've experienced that um flurry of action from him for months and
00:20:22.240everyone has sort of accepted it now and they're biding their time and and we're not seeing this
00:20:28.480um uprising within the traditional wing of the republican party like we saw in trump one still
00:20:33.680happening at this point in his first term we're just not seeing that and there's no incentive for
00:20:39.240these people to push back on it um because it doesn't matter they're going to get steamrolled it's not
00:20:43.320going to go anywhere and so i know i i think the the coalition holds together in terms of those
00:20:49.060groups the traditional republicans the tea party types religious right um the people who are going
00:20:53.360to be voting for a republican on the ballot um no matter what now the the bigger question and i think
00:20:58.540when you have done um a really good job of posing ahead of the midterms is what happens to the maga
00:21:04.460populist are they going to show up in the midterms and like that's the bigger question i think
00:21:08.760but these other groups these more traditional um aspects of the republican party uh the religious
00:21:15.840right the tea party types the traditional republicans yeah i mean i they're going to show up in the midterms
00:21:20.560now what happens in 2028 well who's on the ballot
00:21:23.720natalie what kind of response did you get like i said most of the readers of the washington post don't
00:21:30.700follow the clips or watch war room or any of the other blogs or or podcasts like ourselves what was the
00:21:36.800response when you laid this out what response did it get a lot of traction and number two did you get
00:21:41.100any feedback yeah it so it was our most read story on the website for most of yesterday um people were
00:21:47.760really eating it up people were subscribing to the washington post to read what was in the story
00:21:51.940because i think people really do want to understand trump's political movement it you know people
00:21:56.980have a better idea of it than they did four years ago um but it still is a mystery to maybe half of
00:22:03.100america who um understand that he's popular enough and understand that he brought in um groups and
00:22:09.800and voters that the republican party has not been able to bring in for a long time he became the the
00:22:15.360first republican since w to win the national popular vote so so people get that but people i think want to
00:22:21.120know what exactly are these groups of people um who are making up the republican party and what about
00:22:27.600trump is it that's bringing them in because they all have a different idea of what it means to be a trump
00:22:31.860reporter um in terms of feedback yeah i mean it was really fascinating i was getting emails from
00:22:36.700readers uh saying they learned something from this and this is really informative and so i think people
00:22:42.040are just really um curious and they're still trying to grasp on how trump has done it and what it means for
00:22:49.500the republican party in the coming elections given um this is in many ways a pretty fragile alliance
00:22:57.520natalie what's your uh what's your social media how do people follow you and how they follow your
00:23:04.660reporting over at the washington post yeah so i am on x um natalie n-a-t-a-l-i-e underscore allison
00:23:12.280and um i'm in the washington post washington post.com um you can search my name there and find my stories
00:23:19.540i'm covering the white house but i also have spent you know the last several years covering
00:23:22.960the maga movement um the unsuccessful attempt republicans took to uh bring trump down in the
00:23:30.140republican primary and just where the the republican party is going from here so um i'd love to connect
00:23:35.460with anybody if you have thoughts on what you're reading the post and um what you'd like to see more
00:23:41.220coverage of she's got the maga beat over at the white house for the washington post natalie allison
00:23:48.140thank you so much brilliant article and thank you for joining us this morning appreciate it
00:23:51.820thanks caroline wren observations on uh on this breakdown because it's gotten a lot of uh and i
00:24:01.020think it shows you particularly for the audience how we talk about this stuff every day and the
00:24:04.720war and posse and we're deep into this but you you have to realize that i think right now people are
00:24:11.920coming to the conclusion that trump's just not a passing you know fad that it was you know we call it
00:24:18.000the age of trump not the era trump and and and so the one of the washington post does something
00:24:22.360like this it it shows you their people are curious because they understand trump and trumpism is not
00:24:28.100going to go away and they're trying to understand what that means in their perspective for the country
00:24:33.440their own personal position in whether in power and or uh monetarily etc so what are your thoughts on
00:24:40.540this well i couldn't read the article because i uh would rather die than pay money to the washington
00:24:48.260post to read their opinions on frankly anything um so i i um i can use it if i find a copy for you
00:24:54.600know to help with fire or things like that but uh just listening to the analysis um i mean what what
00:25:00.760trump is famous for and why i love him is that he listens to a wide range of voices and then he makes a
00:25:06.340decision himself and we obviously have many factions in the maga movement and those factions publicly fight
00:25:12.520over the future of the party and of our country but what i love about this trump administration is
00:25:17.720they allow these fights to happen they listen to dissenting voices they take them into account for
00:25:22.460example uh i think we should be very very loud in our opposition to the recent decision by the trump
00:25:28.300administration to allow 600 000 chinese spies back into our universities i know i plan to be very vocal
00:25:35.000in my opposition to that i think the war room is going to be very vocal and the goal is that we
00:25:39.860hope that we can convince president trump and his administration to reverse course on that and they
00:25:44.860they do he listens to the base he listens and oftentimes they will kind of test the boundaries
00:25:49.740put out a policy like that and see how loud the opposition is which is why it is so important to have
00:25:55.760groups like the war room to be loud and they will hopefully listen to this feedback and this is a far cry
00:26:01.940different from the democrat party the democrat party allows no dissenting voices i mean they literally
00:26:07.120canceled their primary in 2024 to anoint kamala harris they changed the primary rules to make sure
00:26:13.720biden could win and remember they stole the primary from bernie sanders in 2020 and so as a result of that
00:26:20.020i mean they are the weakest that they have been since i would argue 1984 um now as far as the faction she
00:26:27.620laid out there is one faction that i think is going to define the future of the maga movement
00:26:32.720and what we do about them and that is big tech big tech is at odds with every single other faction that
00:26:39.800she laid out for example the religious faction big tech these guys are they are atheists they they believe
00:26:45.340in no religion they have no spiritual got they're guided by money and power and so that's going to be a
00:26:51.060natural you know uh fight that happens there then you could also have the you know the the libertarians
00:26:56.460who she laid out the ran paul's well big tech lives and breathes off of government handouts that is and
00:27:02.960so they are obviously going to be at odds there and then with the populist movement i mean big tech
00:27:08.140represents everything we are against and by the way this is not a faction or coalition you are talking
00:27:12.980about a handful of billionaires in silicon valley that have a way too much influence over our government
00:27:20.440over our uh our economy over the world economy and this is going to be the fight the fight for the
00:27:27.280heart of the maga movement the fight for the heart of our country is coming and it is against one
00:27:32.140faction she laid out and that is big tech
00:27:33.920uh caroline stick around well you're gonna be with me for hopefully first time maybe even a little
00:27:41.420longer caroline rent caroline you're back off of your audition for uh below decks we're now we've you're you're
00:27:48.880you're back and you're working again i know i thought we had to get you today from the aegean
00:27:52.940sea or something on the remote off of albania i keep hearing albania is the new hot spot of
00:27:58.440croatia is the new hot spot uh there so anyway welcome back we do have caroline rent she's back
00:28:03.900at work she's back at work she's back at work she's back at work finally um we're gonna take a short
00:28:10.800commercial break nate morris is gonna address i think nate's actually gonna be in the war room
00:28:14.680we're gonna talk more about this this coming fight maybe even how you hold this coalition
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00:31:01.760caroline here's the thing there's almost a thousand the engine room tells almost a thousand comments on
00:31:07.820the on the on the washington post story it is in in the war during even some of the comments hey we
00:31:13.720know this stuff yes this is because the power of the war and posse is that you are the most informed
00:31:18.900part of a political movement really in history the level of detail you know about capital markets the
00:31:24.760economy national security geopolitics before they didn't think blue collar middle class audiences
00:31:29.700had any interest in that you guys understand i think about the washington post is supposedly the
00:31:35.180paper of record for politics the paper of record of the imperial capital uh and this article what you
00:31:42.080think maybe is pretty rudimentary is kind of a a uh a flat it's a real uh it's revelatory for the people
00:31:49.880that are opposed against us uh caroline wren your thoughts i got nate morris we're gonna get to nate
00:31:54.720here in a moment because he's fighting the fight in the trenches every day against the mcconnell machine
00:31:58.860out in kentuck uh your thoughts ma'am well the washington compost um i think i just i can't take too
00:32:07.580seriously what these reporters who just sit in washington dc new york city and los angeles and
00:32:12.840they lecture to us about where they think the movement is going like these people have absolutely
00:32:17.580no idea they talk to other political consultants who give their different opinions i mean yes of course
00:32:22.700obviously every movement has a you know a section of factions of the religious right the like the these
00:32:28.720to me were were obvious things but i do think we should be having these discussions though on how do
00:32:34.500these factions come together and what are we all working towards and again i believe that all the
00:32:39.020factions that she lays out um you know in the segment before i came on the unifying part of all
00:32:45.160of them should be the threat of big tech i mean i i understand that ai is coming but what what nobody's
00:32:51.520doing on either party is talking to the american people and explaining that hey millions of jobs in
00:32:58.280the heart of our country are about to go away be wiped out it is happening right now and
00:33:03.620the future of i think both political parties is going to be defined by this and frankly steve you've
00:33:09.360been one of the only people willing to talk about it and natalie mentioned in her segment she said you
00:33:14.520know a good example of the breaking factions is joe rogan and dave portnoy who are kind of online
00:33:19.680podcast folks personally i'm concerned about tim dylan and for those of you if you don't if you listen
00:33:25.000to tim dylan he's a comedian who's also fairly political never he wasn't that political before but
00:33:30.000became a you know vocal trump supporter over the last year he he i think is laying out some very
00:33:36.740real concerns that trump supporters should have even of our own administration and they are all
00:33:40.760centralized around you know the threat of big tech the what the amount of power that we're giving to
00:33:45.780palantir and then he also talks about israel being a big concern look even myself i was an unapologetic
00:33:51.580supporter of israel in fact i was recruited on campus by apac to visit on one of their indoctrination
00:33:58.240trips that people talked about here i went on that i then went to israel i think probably 10 times over
00:34:03.380the last 15 years and it wasn't until the last year on your show and voices like tucker carlson and
00:34:09.420tim dylan that made me completely rethink why why do i have this unwavering support of israel this is
00:34:16.240kind of bizarre and it's not america first this is why the factions fighting and having these public
00:34:21.540discussions and debates is so important i have completely moved on my opinions on that issue but that
00:34:27.580is because of really strong debates that have happened in our party and that we allow it to
00:34:32.040happen so um you know i i uh i think that we are still unified behind trump i think all these factions
00:34:39.12098 of things we agree agree on but big tech they are the ones that we need to unify against
00:34:45.060caroline hang on you're gonna be with me right in shotgun here for a while uh nate morris nate you're
00:34:51.940running in a very tough primary against really one of the most when you break down these these groups
00:34:57.820really group number two the number two power group what they call the traditional republicans is really
00:35:03.920the party of mitch mcconnell this is where he's helped build this neoliberal neocon they still have
00:35:08.820tremendous power in washington dc and particularly in the united states senate where they kind of
00:35:13.860they run the deal uh tell us about your campaign are you getting any traction because um you know as the
00:35:20.140the maga movement and the populist nationalist right despise mitch mcconnell he has built up
00:35:26.380a tremendous political machine in kentucky uh and he's got a lot of acolytes there sir
00:35:32.360yeah steve as you know i got in this race because i saw two career politicians and two people in the
00:35:41.860race that were solely loyal to mitch mcconnell and they would be a repeat of mitch mcconnell and i said
00:35:47.360we cannot have this and steve i've never run for office before i'm not a career politician
00:35:53.160i'm a business guy i built a business took it public and i said i gotta get in this race because
00:35:58.480we do not have an america first candidate and we'd get more of the same with these two guys that are
00:36:03.780running and steve as you know mitch is pulling out every stop he can we just learned uh about a week
00:36:09.540or so ago that my two opponents were actually colluding together to create a super pack to take us out
00:36:16.220and guess who was funding it steve it was mitch mcconnell mitch mcconnell was going to drive all
00:36:20.980this money to come after us because we are the first candidate to contrast his record and to show
00:36:27.160all the things that he's done to president trump from blaming him for january 6 uh to doing all the
00:36:32.980stuff behind the scenes that he's done all the money that he's pumped into ukraine we are fighting
00:36:38.000against all this and steve what i'm so excited about is when i travel kentucky the grassroots we are
00:36:43.620fired up and we are excited about taking back the seat and giving it to the people once and for all
00:36:49.820mitch mcconnell's been there for 40 years and he's trying to live uh another 40 through one of his two
00:36:56.460puppets and we can't let that happen in kentucky and that's what this campaign's all about steve
00:37:01.180this is what i think if you can help explain the audience the disconnect this actually gets back to
00:37:07.800this article in the in the in the post because i would argue what natalie lays out is there is a
00:37:13.340still a power structure that we really haven't moved that far off the dime uh with with in the
00:37:20.380rise of president trump and we're burning daylight to do it in kentucky you've got one of the most
00:37:25.060powerful uh mega movements of people that support president trump you know just diehard uh trump
00:37:31.940supporters um you've also got mitch mcconnell which you said on his policies are diametrically
00:37:38.560opposed plus he personally the vindictiveness that mitch mcconnell's had against the president is
00:37:43.960legendary inside the capitol and and half of those stories aren't even known to the public but it's
00:37:48.780just been vicious uh of mitch mcconnell leading this one of the reasons we detest him um but how does
00:37:55.160that get translated in when you got a political machine and particularly it's a national campaign
00:38:01.040because this is mitch mcconnell's legacy all he's got is the legacy that he had from the senate he's
00:38:06.780got every donor every big donor all the corporatists he's got all the globalists uh they're going to
00:38:12.680sit there and just fight you to the end over that legacy so how what's your battle plan of how you
00:38:17.960beat these guys when they have the advantage of a political apparatus and the money well see there's
00:38:24.460only one way to handle mitch mcconnell's machine and that's absolute brute force and that's why we've
00:38:30.340been so aggressive in this campaign steve as you know we went up on air uh several weeks ago and i
00:38:36.300think the people of kentucky are so excited about a choice finally that we can get away from these
00:38:41.920these two puppets that mitch was trying to jam into kentucky uh so his cronies his lobbyists could get a
00:38:48.880second life uh after his term is up and that's what this candidacy is all about and steve we're going
00:38:55.160to need every bit of the grassroots to fight it because they're throwing all kinds of money
00:38:59.000they're colluding on the super pack as i told you about and they're going to they're not going to
00:39:03.640go quietly and we are rupturing uh the establishment and steve we are going to disassemble mitch mcconnell's
00:39:11.340establishment brick by brick uh in this campaign and finally showcase that we can have a candidate that
00:39:19.000stands with president trump that stands with the america first agenda and is not there just to hold
00:39:24.020power for the next 40 years like mitch mcconnell and his puppets would do but uh it's going to be
00:39:29.300a dogfight steve and um the only way to handle it is to get very very aggressive and we know they're
00:39:35.520going to come at us i mean mitch mcconnell's already starting to attack me i mean he's called
00:39:39.960every activist every donor every person in kentucky that has an impact on this race to say
00:39:45.080stay away from this campaign and the grassroots are not going to have it and our people are not going
00:39:50.340to have it because they know that this is the only way we're going to bring changes we got to fight it
00:39:54.720and i'm willing to fight for every kentuckian uh to bring something new and to bring a breath of fresh
00:40:00.980air and to get rid of these mitch puppets once and for all where do people go people that want to find
00:40:08.500out more about you more about where you stand on this and particularly how they can assist because
00:40:12.900this is a this is a this primary will be the this in texas will be the two national primaries for
00:40:20.080the republican party cornyn um you know versus our guy our great attorney general paxton down there
00:40:26.740uh for the senate and uh and what's happening in kentucky so where do people go to find out more
00:40:31.960about you social media the website the campaign because right now people got to get on top of this
00:40:36.740uh because we're burning daylight and this is a big one if if you're a trump supporter
00:40:41.940and you've been offended by how mitch mcconnell has been uh so viciously not just dismissive of the
00:40:49.060president but behind the scenes just knifed him every opportunity and then you take the policies
00:40:53.760right these out of control policies everything's for the big corporations the entire ukraine
00:40:57.580fiasco that we finally defeated uh mcconnell and that's when he had to step down for leadership
00:41:02.960uh if you're a maga supporter throughout the nation this is your race the texas race and uh in this race
00:41:10.120are and the reason texas is big because cornyn is one of mitch mcconnell's guys right in paxton's
00:41:15.600grassroots so this is where the grassroots are going to have two great shots and you're not
00:41:20.080going to have a better shot than right here in kentucky so where do they go nate where people go
00:41:25.020to find everything and if they want to uh sign up if they want to support you they want to come out
00:41:29.420and see you know go to a rally if they want to have financial support where do they go
00:41:32.980sure thank you steve as you know this is a fight against the uniparty the deep state
00:41:38.120come and see me at natemorris.com come be part of this movement we need all the help we can get
00:41:44.660get involved in this campaign contribute to this campaign find us on x at nate morris uh but we
00:41:51.880are going to finally as president trump said rid the stench of mitch out of kentucky once and for all
00:41:58.340and we're going to do it right here with you guys uh on election day so thank you so much steve for
00:42:04.100having me on anytime you got an open invitation people are fascinated by this race fascinated by you
00:42:10.740they understand you've got a a tough hill to climb and it's uh but it's as we say in the war room
00:42:15.500these are fights that matter right this is a fight that matters nate morris thank you so much for
00:42:20.760dropping by the war room today thank you steve caroline we got a minute tell the audience
00:42:28.280a guy like nate morris when you take on mitch mcconnell in that apparatus how how tough how tough a fight is
00:42:34.460that ma'am well it's a very tough fight and this comes back to the money always and senate leadership
00:42:40.740fund was the you know the super pack that uh mitch mcconnell and stephen law always ran now that that
00:42:46.780super pack has been handed over to hopefully trump it's supposed to be trump run now but i have my own
00:42:53.480concerns with it that pack is actually spending uh tens of millions of dollars to support john cornyn
00:42:58.980and so i i always like to follow the money so when it comes to nate morris's race i like everything
00:43:03.700that i just heard on your show but i want to see who are the donors that are supporting him who are
00:43:08.280the donors that are supporting his opponents what are these you know establishment super packs doing
00:43:12.800and then i want to probably support the opposite of that so uh i think that i want to watch these
00:43:18.320primaries play out see where president trump comes in on it um i do know there are two the two candidates
00:43:23.440nate morris was referencing as his opponents are absolutely mcconnell back candidates and mitch mcconnell
00:43:28.820absolutely hates uh nate morris and so that means he's probably the best candidate in that race
00:43:33.520hang hang on for one second we'll take a short commercial break we're going to be back seize
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00:45:08.780the threats we heard today against chris christie and former and some of uh former president biden's aides
00:45:15.760what are we looking at here well look uh you know john bolton was one of many people who predicted
00:45:22.960what he called a retribution presidency donald trump was one of the other people who predicted a
00:45:27.900retribution presidency he wasn't hiding this agenda step he was very clear uh on the campaign trail in
00:45:34.7402024 and since he's returned to office uh he is all about revenge retribution uh and what strikes me
00:45:43.580is that he is feelings you know enough of a power rush that he's not really even trying to hide
00:45:49.220this agenda at this point anymore nor are many of his advisors cash patel his fbi director swore under oath
00:45:56.300during his confirmation hearing in january oh no we don't have an enemies list oh no i would never
00:46:02.240ever allow the fbi to be used as a target of retribution uh and here we are just a few months later
00:46:09.780and chris christie says something that donald trump doesn't like on television and trump immediately
00:46:15.520responds he should be investigated using uh the powers of the federal justice department and i you
00:46:22.700know again he's blatant about the linkage in a way that i think is concerning especially at a moment when
00:46:29.140he is seeking to essentially militarize america cities this notion a new executive order today says uh that
00:46:37.180he's going to call out troops or use the national guard to quell disturbances that do not exist i am
00:46:42.560a resident of the district of columbia there is no civil disturbance in the district of columbia and
00:46:49.980i just you have to wonder you know is there is there any institution left that can put a meaningful
00:46:57.080legal check on donald trump tonight do i say we have to seize the institutions now they are out of power
00:47:03.940and they know the smart ones know they're out of power we control both houses of congress we call
00:47:09.000the legislature we control the executive branch we control the courts um governor hochel kathy
00:47:16.240hochel said that she spoke to you on the phone and you said you might send national guard troops to new
00:47:21.020york you mentioned that so will you i'd love to do it if she'd like i get along with kathy
00:47:26.000if she'd like to do that i would do it yes go ahead for a lot of victims like myself a big concern is
00:47:33.580long-term sustainability who share with more with the american public about your plan and ensuring that
00:47:38.880dc is saving a long term longer term yeah well uh it's a great question number one we want to stay
00:47:45.640there for longer than 30 days as you know we have an absolute mandate and i can extend it but i'd rather
00:47:51.000not have to declare a national emergency because by that time i mean right now there's not an
00:47:56.040emergency we've done as you sort of said yourself it feels like a different world and today the fed
00:48:02.000governor lisa cook says she is fighting trump's attempt to fire her cook says trump has no authority
00:48:07.860to remove her and she will not resign her attorney abby lowell says they will sue because the firing
00:48:14.280lacks any factual or legal basis but the wall street journal reports that donald trump wants to move fast
00:48:20.200in naming someone to take her spot on the fed's board the journal says two potential candidates
00:48:25.720are white house economic advisor steven mirin and former world bank group president david malpass
00:48:31.440and the news nbc news has not confirmed this it seems to have had an infraction and she can't have
00:48:37.100an infraction especially that infraction because she's in charge of if you think about it mortgages and
00:48:42.440we need people that are 100 above board and it doesn't seem like she was but tonight cook says
00:48:48.740she'll sue to keep her job writing president trump purported to fire me for cause when no cause exists
00:48:54.780under the law and he has no authority to do so i will not resign burn it down they're just anti
00:49:00.480institutionalists you know uh alex wagner they we're the ones that protect the institutions no alex
00:49:06.140we're grabbing the institutions and taking power as the american people the way our constitutional system
00:49:12.480works gave president trump the authority to do so we're going to deconstruct the administrative state
00:49:19.360we're going to purge the deep state and the executive branch we're going to take over the senate
00:49:25.920and we control the house already oh by the way the judiciary you're not going to get your judges
00:49:33.640through they're all going to be trump judges i want you to you're on the fetal position so i'm
00:49:38.140going to give you something really suck your thumbs about we are in charge okay the american people
00:49:44.760have spoken in a statement the fed acknowledged cook's lawsuit fighting trump's move and says it
00:49:50.760will abide by any court decision but i want to make something abundantly clear the president wants you to
00:49:58.120think he is trying to fire lisa cook because of alleged mortgage fraud this is not about mortgage fraud
00:50:03.980he has been trashing the fed decisions for months now because he wants rates to be lower because he
00:50:10.780wants equity prices to soar this is not about mortgage fraud just like sending national guard
00:50:16.800troops to washington dc and potentially other cities is not really about spikes in crime just like
00:50:23.460attacking universities and forcing big payouts is not really about fighting and stopping anti-semitism
00:50:30.340just like punishing law firms who work for people trump doesn't like is not about diversity equity
00:50:36.700and inclusion there's a very clear theme here this is all about control and finding as many ways as
00:50:44.120possible to amass as much power as possible in the presidency that is what this is about when you
00:50:52.680seize the institutions let's seize them this is what the left this is why the country's in such a bad
00:50:58.780shape this is why the republican party for years has been the controlled opposition this rot in our
00:51:05.000institution you think it just occurred overnight decade after decade after decade tapping it along
00:51:12.280okay the lead story in axios right now is president trump seizes the institutions
00:51:18.920we told you that was coming and now it's a full meltdown scott besant pretty safe pair of hands there
00:51:24.240scott besant just i think it was on fox business said they ought to prosecute uh lisa cook the
00:51:30.660governor of the federal reserve it's happening over the federal reserve they're going to be in court on
00:51:34.300that dave weigel the great dave weigel at semaphore breaking a big story the lead story over at
00:51:41.360semaphore wait for it republican voters now 53 47 support president trump running for a third term
00:51:50.340i kid you not told you this day was coming of course that's how we're connecting uh natalie
00:51:57.500allison's fractious coalition to what's happening now caroline runoff talked her in for staying at
00:52:04.020least for part of the next block want to talk about bill gates want to talk about arabella the dark
00:52:10.340money sources for the left also the seizing of the institutions and uh we're very honored we're gonna have
00:52:18.060watch them monthly here i think on the most unique guide to colleges that's ever been published
00:52:26.780also edward bolsonaro his father it's getting darker and darker in brazil uh for president
00:52:32.780bolsonaro and we're going to get a big update on all of the um how we're driving the uh russia hoax
00:52:39.900into federal court john solomon's going to be here about james comey short commercial break