Bannon's War Room - August 28, 2025


Episode 4740： Massive Firing At The CDC; The MAGA Medical Sphere


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

177.81203

Word Count

9,731

Sentence Count

241

Misogynist Sentences

13

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

Bobby Kennedy was the first African-American to serve as President of the United States, but he was also the first man to become a Supreme Court Justice, and the first person to vote for a woman to become the first woman to ever serve as a U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS). And he was a fierce opponent of vaccines.


Transcript

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies,
00:00:08.000 because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:11.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,
00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.
00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:26.000 Mega Media.
00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul,
00:00:30.000 I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:33.000 Ask yourself,
00:00:34.000 what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:37.000 If that answer is to save my country,
00:00:40.000 this country will be saved.
00:00:43.000 War Room.
00:00:44.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:00:51.000 Okay. Thursday, 28 August, year of our Lord, 2025.
00:00:53.000 Now we had our incredible team at Denver and my own production team
00:00:57.000 here in the War Room had an amazing cold open that kind of laid out the case
00:01:00.000 of what happened in the CC starting last night to the day.
00:01:03.000 We don't have time for it.
00:01:04.000 We're so jammed.
00:01:05.000 In fact, the truckers,
00:01:06.000 I'm going to get the truckers on tomorrow because I need to take time with
00:01:09.000 them about what they exposed to the American people a couple months ago
00:01:12.000 and what's happening now, but we need more time and we are jammed for time.
00:01:16.000 Mary Holland,
00:01:19.000 Children's Health Defense.
00:01:20.000 You've been kind of our Sherpa to guide us through this for the last four years
00:01:23.000 or five years since the pandemic.
00:01:25.000 So here's what I don't understand.
00:01:27.000 And let me just lay out the facts.
00:01:29.000 The top four people,
00:01:30.000 the head of the CDC,
00:01:32.000 that we just got confirmed and kind of had to go fix bayonets on that Mary because,
00:01:37.000 you know,
00:01:38.000 she was,
00:01:39.000 although a government employee,
00:01:41.000 you know,
00:01:42.000 was kind of outside of,
00:01:43.000 was,
00:01:44.000 was tending more towards us on this vaccine,
00:01:46.000 on the discussion of vaccine.
00:01:48.000 I guess she was called over to HHS and Bobby directed her to fire the top
00:01:53.000 four people at the CDC in these senior positions.
00:01:56.000 She refused.
00:01:57.000 And then they said they were going to fire her.
00:01:59.000 In fact,
00:02:00.000 I think Bobby fired her and then they found out the only president can fire her.
00:02:03.000 She refused.
00:02:04.000 And Cassidy got involved.
00:02:08.000 Right.
00:02:09.000 Who had been a big proponent of,
00:02:10.000 of,
00:02:11.000 of not having any of these people associated with Bobby to be confirmed.
00:02:14.000 And then the president,
00:02:15.000 they checked the constitution and said the president directly fired her terminated
00:02:19.000 last night.
00:02:20.000 And so the question is,
00:02:22.000 and this is supposedly off of the rollout,
00:02:25.000 not just on MRNA,
00:02:27.000 but Bobby Kennedy's commitment to the American people,
00:02:31.000 platinum level science and radical transparency.
00:02:35.000 So my question is what exactly happened?
00:02:37.000 I know you're an outsider.
00:02:39.000 Yeah.
00:02:40.000 And couldn't this been a little thought through since we just got her
00:02:44.000 confirmed.
00:02:45.000 And we've all known that this is kind of the thing we're going down the path
00:02:49.000 of,
00:02:50.000 of platinum level science and radical transparency when it comes to vaccines,
00:02:54.000 ma'am.
00:02:55.000 Well,
00:02:56.000 Steve,
00:02:57.000 remember that this was not Bobby's first choice,
00:02:59.000 right?
00:03:00.000 The first choice for the president and the secretary,
00:03:03.000 Secretary Kennedy was Dr.
00:03:05.000 Dave Weldon.
00:03:06.000 Dave Weldon had been in Congress for many years and had been outspoken that we
00:03:11.000 don't have platinum level science about vaccines.
00:03:14.000 He was not able even to get a hearing,
00:03:17.000 right?
00:03:18.000 He was nixed.
00:03:19.000 And so Menara's was the second choice.
00:03:22.000 And she definitely has a deep state background,
00:03:24.000 right?
00:03:25.000 She's been involved in gain of function,
00:03:27.000 bioweapons research for a long time,
00:03:29.000 but she had a lot of skills that seemed interesting among them,
00:03:32.000 AI,
00:03:33.000 right?
00:03:34.000 Data analysis.
00:03:35.000 Cause one of the things that Kennedy has to do right now is look at these
00:03:38.000 millions of medical records to see what is causing autism.
00:03:41.000 What is causing autism?
00:03:42.000 What is causing the chronic health epidemic?
00:03:44.000 But apparently there was a showdown this past week and she would not,
00:03:48.000 what it sounds like from what we know is she would not fire these top
00:03:51.000 level people who are absolutely vaccine zealots,
00:03:53.000 right?
00:03:54.000 This guy for Mpox and these other people,
00:03:56.000 she wouldn't fire them.
00:03:58.000 And she seems to be digging in her heels.
00:04:01.000 And there's a lot coming down the pike,
00:04:03.000 right?
00:04:04.000 So Bobby Kennedy just ended the emergency use authorizations for the Pfizer,
00:04:08.000 Moderna,
00:04:09.000 Novavax shots.
00:04:10.000 That means there's not the same kind of liability shield that they had under
00:04:14.000 the prep act.
00:04:15.000 That's big.
00:04:16.000 There's also a really important lawsuit before the CDC right now saying you
00:04:21.000 guys are de facto creating these national mandates for kids and you've
00:04:25.000 never tested the science for the whole vaccine program.
00:04:29.000 We should be saying it's really up to the doctors and the families.
00:04:32.000 You can't be doing what you're doing.
00:04:34.000 There's no basis for you basically creating this national mandate.
00:04:37.000 So there's a lot coming down the pike.
00:04:39.000 And I think Menara has made it really clear.
00:04:41.000 She's not on board.
00:04:42.000 And I think Kennedy said, okay, well then you got to move on out.
00:04:47.000 And I think it's a real opportunity, Steve.
00:04:50.000 We don't really know what's next.
00:04:51.000 You're absolutely right.
00:04:52.000 The Cassidy and Kennedy seem to be somewhat at loggerheads.
00:04:55.000 So maybe there's going to be an acting director of CDC.
00:04:58.000 Maybe there won't be a director of CDC and,
00:05:01.000 and Kennedy team will simply be sort of overshadowing things.
00:05:05.000 I don't know.
00:05:06.000 I don't know what's next.
00:05:07.000 It is a threshold moment.
00:05:09.000 Go, go.
00:05:10.000 Yeah.
00:05:11.000 Go, go back to this.
00:05:12.000 This is folks.
00:05:13.000 We got to get focused on this.
00:05:14.000 Cause this is big.
00:05:15.000 It is.
00:05:16.000 We're either going to go one direction or the other on this moment.
00:05:18.000 So I want to go back just two things.
00:05:20.000 Explain to the audience when the president of the United States
00:05:26.000 designates a guy like Bobby Kennedy, he's going to be HHS.
00:05:29.000 And Bobby Kennedy then designates a guy like Dr.
00:05:32.000 Dave Weldon, who's a former member of Congress.
00:05:34.000 He's going to run CDC.
00:05:36.000 Explain to the audience what it means.
00:05:38.000 He can't get a hearing.
00:05:39.000 What does that mean?
00:05:41.000 I mean, cause this is what happened.
00:05:43.000 They completely went nuts and just shut it down.
00:05:45.000 But what does that mean to people?
00:05:46.000 Explain.
00:05:47.000 So big, big, you know, we understand that big pharma has a lot of influence in the swamp
00:05:52.000 and in Washington.
00:05:53.000 And so among the many things that President Biden did before leaving office was he ensured
00:05:59.000 that the head of the CDC for the first time needed Senate confirmation.
00:06:04.000 And so that then gave the hand to Senator Cassidy as the head of this help committee to really
00:06:10.000 have a major role in who gets confirmed.
00:06:13.000 Uh, this is the first time, I mean, you know, I, in my view, the head of the HHS should
00:06:19.000 be able to appoint his own team, but that's the reason that Dave Weldon got nixed because
00:06:24.000 it was clear he didn't have the votes.
00:06:28.000 Yeah, but he wouldn't.
00:06:29.000 I mean, they wouldn't even, uh, you know, they wouldn't even let him go and have a hearing
00:06:32.000 from the American people.
00:06:33.000 Yeah.
00:06:34.000 Exactly.
00:06:35.000 Now, now, now I want to go mainstream media because you know, they follow the show closely.
00:06:40.000 They're going to jump on.
00:06:41.000 Oh, this is Mary Holland.
00:06:42.000 Who's co co co-head of the cult for Bobby Kennedy calling, calling some of the finest professionals
00:06:48.000 that ever served the American people at CDC vaccine zealots.
00:06:53.000 Can you, can you put a little flesh on that bone?
00:06:55.000 What do you mean by that, ma'am?
00:06:57.000 What I mean by that Steve is what Bobby Kennedy is demanding is as you called it platinum level
00:07:04.000 science.
00:07:05.000 I think he usually says gold standard science.
00:07:07.000 The reality is not the COVID shots, nothing on the childhood schedule.
00:07:12.000 None of this, none of the shots altogether, not the recommendations for six month olds to get COVID
00:07:19.000 shots earlier or even for high risk.
00:07:21.000 None of that is backed up by real science.
00:07:24.000 Real science is you have an unvaccinated control versus the vaccinated group.
00:07:29.000 And then for schedules, you have a long term study that looks at all these things together.
00:07:35.000 None of that's been done.
00:07:37.000 It's been called out by the Institute of Medicine repeatedly that they don't have the science.
00:07:43.000 And yet these high level people in the CDC are gung ho.
00:07:47.000 Do the vaccines.
00:07:48.000 Keep the program going.
00:07:49.000 Keep the liability shield.
00:07:51.000 They're safe and effective.
00:07:52.000 They save lives.
00:07:53.000 That's a mantra.
00:07:54.000 That's an ideology.
00:07:55.000 It's not science.
00:07:58.000 What do you mean before I let you go?
00:08:00.000 What do you mean you think they'll slide in an interim director?
00:08:03.000 And what is this relationship?
00:08:04.000 Why is Cassidy, who is who's probably the least supportive of President Trump on many issues in the United States Senate?
00:08:11.000 Why is Cassidy such a big player here, ma'am?
00:08:14.000 I think he's such a big player because he is a Republican.
00:08:18.000 He is the chair of the health committee and he is a physician and he is very pro vaccine.
00:08:25.000 And he is very, very pro vaccine.
00:08:28.000 And that's not going to change.
00:08:30.000 So it's not clear what's going to happen, Steve.
00:08:32.000 I think we have to stay tuned.
00:08:34.000 I'll be happy to come back and try to deconstruct it as we go.
00:08:37.000 Yeah, probably tomorrow because things are going to be happening today.
00:08:42.000 Mary Holland, where do people go to get all your content, particularly your social media, ma'am?
00:08:48.000 Social media is at Children's HD for health defense.
00:08:53.000 And our website is Children's Health Defense dot org.
00:08:59.000 Ma'am, thank you so much.
00:09:01.000 Appreciate you.
00:09:02.000 Thank you, Steve.
00:09:03.000 Mary Holland over Children's Health Defense.
00:09:05.000 Gray Delaney, you join us.
00:09:08.000 I've got a question.
00:09:09.000 How did this it came as a surprise?
00:09:11.000 And I realized that she was a Weldon was out and she was the kind of next man up and maybe not perfect.
00:09:18.000 But you would think and assume that before she went for confirmation because she took some incoming confirmation, people would have walked through the plan here.
00:09:28.000 What concerns me is now we're in a crisis over at HHS.
00:09:32.000 And what's going to happen is Cassidy is going to round up the swamp in Big Pharma and we're about to go to war right now.
00:09:39.000 Right. Because the four the four zealots are going to be held up as martyrs to the cause of rational science when they're actually not.
00:09:47.000 And so could this not have been thought through a little bit more, sir?
00:09:53.000 Yeah.
00:09:54.000 If she represents the compromise candidate, then I don't understand how she can be represented compromised.
00:10:00.000 I mean, she is a Bill Gates affiliated, completely all in on the mRNA technology.
00:10:07.000 So it's the furthest thing from a compromise candidate.
00:10:10.000 It's basically just more of the status quo, deep stay.
00:10:13.000 And then the CDC is the center of the rot within the public health space.
00:10:18.000 And so I know when I was there at HHS, we were starting to, you know, Secretary Kennedy understood that.
00:10:26.000 And they were working.
00:10:28.000 I mean, for example, none of the web pages have been even updated on the CDC website about the vaccine, the COVID vaccine.
00:10:35.000 And it's all outdated.
00:10:36.000 It all says they're safe and effective to this day.
00:10:39.000 And they are just the heart of the resistance.
00:10:41.000 And they recently were able to fire about 600 CDC employees.
00:10:46.000 And so they're starting to finally deconstruct the basically the Biden.
00:10:53.000 But it's not just Biden.
00:10:54.000 It's the same career people that have been working the same prevailing orthodoxy that has been at CDC for 20 plus years.
00:11:00.000 But my point is, we have to deal with this.
00:11:03.000 Speaking of the people, HHS, there's a need for a war room within HHS to deal with the political opposition.
00:11:13.000 Because this is bare knuckle politics.
00:11:16.000 And I'm not sure if there is one.
00:11:18.000 But has there been an oppo file done on Cassidy?
00:11:23.000 That's something I raised when I was there.
00:11:25.000 I mean, we know I know certain people that have been placed that are his people within HHS.
00:11:31.000 Was that done as a compromise with personnel or is that done on under our nose?
00:11:36.000 And so this whole this all has to be mapped out.
00:11:38.000 And we have to take this and we have to play hardball.
00:11:40.000 And I just don't feel the feel that we can do a more effective job of defending the secretary and really going on full frontal assault.
00:11:47.000 Because if we go back to that MRNA announcement a couple of weeks ago, Steve, that got me in a little bit of trouble.
00:11:54.000 No, no, no.
00:11:56.000 But there was a fiasco a couple of weeks ago.
00:11:59.000 And you tried to save the day and came as close to saving the day as possible.
00:12:02.000 Here's my problem is the woman, when she's told that, hey, you've got to kill, you've got to get rid of the four zealots.
00:12:10.000 It's just this is the way it's going to be. Right. And he's had a HHS. He gets to pick his team.
00:12:15.000 Not only she tell him, I'm not going to do that and and you can't fire me and I'm not going to resign.
00:12:21.000 What does she do? She immediately calls Cassidy. It's all been reported.
00:12:25.000 She immediately calls Cassidy. My point is in going forward now with replacing the four zealots and replacing her in a confirmation.
00:12:35.000 This you're not going to get better than a compromised candidate, I just tell you, because now they're going to dig in.
00:12:41.000 The Democrats are going to dig in. Big Pharma basically owns the Senate anyway.
00:12:46.000 They're going to you're going to dig in. We're going to have the confirmation battle.
00:12:51.000 If if we choose someone that is actually rational about vaccines, Gray, it is going to be as tough a confirmation battle as Pete Hegseth and Cash Patel and Bobby Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard.
00:13:05.000 We're going to go back to the beginning on how tough this is going to be.
00:13:09.000 Maybe this is why we really need recess appointments, because this one's going to going to be brutal and it's just going to slow down everything we're trying to do.
00:13:17.000 And you look like we were trying to make so much progress.
00:13:20.000 This thing had to have a plan to get rolled at the MR and a announcement first, then taking out these guys, etc.
00:13:27.000 But it's got to be and people got to be on board or if she's not going to be on board on something this basic, she never should have been put up for confirmation anyway.
00:13:35.000 Now we're going to dig in and casting these guys are going to play their hand out.
00:13:39.000 Don't think these people are not tough. They got unlimited amount of money from Big Pharma.
00:13:44.000 They got unlimited amount of support from the mainstream media that thinks Bobby and everybody else associated with this are a bunch of kooks.
00:13:51.000 Right. And they've got the power positions. I mean, hell, Cassidy's chairman of the health committee.
00:13:57.000 Now, I know that actually on confirmation, sometimes like HHS, you've got to go to the budget finance.
00:14:03.000 But this one's done. I believe the CDC is actually done by Cassidy's committee.
00:14:08.000 So we we have got a war kind of dumped on us when I just think this could have been done in a much a much smarter way.
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00:18:05.240 give me your thoughts okay we're in it now folks we're look we're fighting on many fronts here and
00:18:12.140 you know president trump we're burning daylight president trump knows that that's why
00:18:15.760 uh we're a big believer here in the world go to the maximalist position immediately just go and
00:18:22.820 just stake it out and drive towards that um the situation in uh hhs and i do agree with you
00:18:30.520 i think the center and the beating heart of the deep state nature and the interconnectivity uh to other
00:18:37.540 governments other intelligence aspects and kind of the way one of the ways they want to keep control
00:18:41.980 us through the cdc so it's all important and folks we're down now for a fight trust me this is going
00:18:47.500 to be a big fight and they're going to try to go they called for it last night i said this is going
00:18:51.980 to happen immediately they're going to go and use this to try to remove bobby kennedy so we got a
00:18:57.480 fight here they're going to try to use this to to make it uh uh unpalatable for president trump to
00:19:03.380 keep around so folks get ready go fix band nets on this gray delaney you know this both from the
00:19:08.320 outside and the inside give me two minutes on what the solution is here sir yes well i will say
00:19:14.020 the lead off i say secretary kennedy is 100 committed to gold star science but also to addressing the
00:19:22.040 vaccine issue and you can see that and he is there was a narrative that he was selling out that he had
00:19:27.000 no no intention to move on the mrna technology not true whatsoever so what i spent a lot of time at
00:19:33.020 my time at hhs was was unifying the maha base and preventing that splintering of the maha and maga
00:19:40.120 and i know that our opposition that was on pharma was very smart and they were trying to divide maha
00:19:46.060 and maga so we have to keep maha and maga united and unified and that's part of the reason i pushed
00:19:51.260 for dr hatfield to come on and explain that decision on your show steve was if we have a divided base
00:19:57.240 then secretary kennedy doesn't have a chance and they ultimately they do want to remove him they're
00:20:01.300 coming for him so when they came from vene preside a few weeks back in the middle of july because of
00:20:05.260 that moderna decision because he wasn't a laptop for big pharma they were able to take advantage of
00:20:10.220 a very splintered base when we had a lot of our most prominent advocates out there severely critical
00:20:16.280 of the secretary they moved in they removed vene now he's back thank goodness but my point is
00:20:22.160 if we don't effectively explain this network of cassidy expose it and keep and and keep rolling out the
00:20:29.100 talking points and keep pushing pushing pushing with all i mean we had the maha voter base is the
00:20:34.600 most powerful voter base i believe in all politics right now it used to be the tea party 10 years ago
00:20:39.160 when we worked with dave bratt to get rid of eric canter that has been replaced by maha there is no
00:20:43.420 more powerful voter base so we have to turn them on cassidy and anyone else is an oppositional figure
00:20:49.200 and if they are unified and they are pushing in the right direction with with a strat with a with a
00:20:53.980 a cohesive strategic communications plan we will win but if we are not if we do not have our ducks
00:21:01.060 in a row yeah then we are in real trouble because we are going i mean the like the mrna technology
00:21:06.380 moderna is entirely funded it's a creation of darpa and the u.s government and when you take someone
00:21:13.620 on like that you better have your act together you need to go out and explain to the american people
00:21:17.540 why you did it and so i think if we can do that we will we will be a lot done yep that this was
00:21:24.480 thousands of times when i said this thing was first announced just kind of dumped out there i said don't
00:21:28.440 get trust me the enemy big farmers going to have a vote here right now folks post labor day you heard
00:21:35.500 it first the war room they're coming from bobby kennedy okay we're going to try to push this coal
00:21:40.700 restructuring of the administrative state in the deep state that's in cdc but they're going to strike
00:21:46.800 and casting these guys going to try to remove kennedy as hhs that's the fight we've got so get ready to
00:21:51.820 go the ramparts gray social media where do people track you down sir at at sale pgd and i i want to
00:21:58.060 tell your audience steve coming up in september we have the upcoming report on autism and that's
00:22:02.800 probably going to be linked to the immunizations and the vaccine issue but dr retzoff levy who's now
00:22:07.600 the head of the vaccine subcommittee on asip is incredible i mean i work with him closely this he is
00:22:12.400 brilliant and he is going to he is not care whatsoever what the opposition thinks or what
00:22:18.080 they write about him so that upcoming asip meeting in september we have to cover and we have to get
00:22:22.380 out in front of it and provide cover so that's going to be part of the strategies we we have to have
00:22:27.100 a bet we have to lay the groundwork better for these huge announcements that are coming there's
00:22:31.760 some big announcements coming september so it's going to be a really busy fall and stay tuned to this
00:22:36.320 to the to hhs and cdc because kennedy's going next he's all in so we got to protect them next
00:22:43.280 third next 30 days is going to be crazy great thank you so much look forward to having you back here
00:22:48.240 saddle up folks saddle up saddle up john lott uh president united states just told pritzker yo dude
00:22:56.480 you had six murders over the weekend 20 people shot the things out of control i'm tired of hearing the
00:23:01.120 the the uh you know the the mayor going morning joe and joe scarver asking five times hey would you
00:23:07.360 not like to have a little support at the federal level will not answer the question president's had
00:23:11.760 a belly full of it give me your assessment of how dc is actually going uh versus what we're hearing
00:23:17.120 on msmc new york times washington post and uh where do you think this thing is going where are we
00:23:22.560 we're going to chicago next new york your thoughts sir well look this whole discussion isn't rocket science
00:23:28.960 if you want to reduce crime what president trump is showing clearly is you have to make it riskier
00:23:34.320 for criminals to go and commit crime we've seen huge drops in different violent crime categories since
00:23:41.120 president federalized law enforcement in dc we just went 13 days without a homicide uh in dc the odds
00:23:50.400 of that happening if you look at the annual rate of homicides last year the daily rate is one in 800
00:23:57.840 it's just an incredible drop the mayor of dc yesterday announced that there had been an 87 percent
00:24:05.360 drop in carjackings that had occurred you had like a 24 25 percent drop in violent crimes overall you had
00:24:14.160 like a 44 percent drop in robberies so you know you know you basically have to have higher arrest rates
00:24:22.240 and trump putting more boots on the ground you know you had effectively about 400 patrol officers
00:24:29.280 on duty at any point in time in dc trump's effectively doubled that with the 500 uh officers that he's put
00:24:37.280 in there you know fbi ice dea as well as over 800 national guard uh officers that are there i hope
00:24:46.080 the rest of the country learns from this you know it's just like with the border they said well it's
00:24:51.440 impossible you can't control the border and they said the same thing basically with regard to crime
00:24:56.560 where that they'd say look there's no reason to get it down there's all sorts of issues as has the
00:25:03.200 administration's been pointing out with regard to corruption manipulation of the crime data but even if you
00:25:09.200 believe the crime data that they have there it's been outrageous what the crime is that have been
00:25:15.680 occurring there in dc if you look at the 25 largest cities last year dc had a 28 higher homicide rate
00:25:26.000 than the next worst city indianapolis if you democrats want to make dc a state
00:25:32.400 our dc's homicide rate last year was 169 percent higher than the worst state it was 434 percent
00:25:44.560 higher than the average for states democrats claim that they care about the poor that they care about
00:25:50.640 blacks the latest data we have on the racial composition of the victims of murder in dc is up
00:25:58.560 through 2021 96 percent of the murder victims were black do they only care about black lives matter
00:26:08.720 when it's somebody other than trump that's trying to save them you know it's a ridiculous in terms of
00:26:15.680 the damage that's done to to people's lives in these cities and there's a simple solution and you know
00:26:23.120 you look at the academic research on this over 55 percent of the variation in crime rates is
00:26:30.000 basically explained by making it more costly for criminals to commit crime higher arrest rates
00:26:34.800 higher conviction rates longer prison sentences only a couple percent is due to variations in
00:26:41.600 things like income or poverty or unemployment and so you know uh mayor brandon the interview that
00:26:49.120 he mentioned with joe scarborough wants to go and talk about all this additional government spending
00:26:53.680 that he wants to do on housing and everything else that's not the issue that's not going to make a big
00:27:00.000 dent in these crime rates and and president trump is pointing that out very clearly by showing what
00:27:07.200 actually happens in practice uh where do people go uh because this is going to be a major element uh post
00:27:17.520 labor day as they roll out to chicago los angeles and new york and folks that's coming okay it's coming
00:27:23.280 um where do people go john to get your books your writing social media all of it sir well they can see
00:27:30.320 all the data on the crime for different states and cities on our website at crimeresearch.org
00:27:36.640 crimeresearch.org thank you
00:27:39.200 john lott thank you sir more guns i appreciate you being there
00:27:49.120 no i appreciate you sir remember john lott told you on this transgender ideology seven times
00:27:56.800 with the general population committing these crimes it's got to be that's got to be dealt with
00:28:02.960 and of course the great sheila matthews been on this from the beginning
00:28:05.680 you want to get you want to get sick to the stomach watch the coverage on this amazing media
00:28:10.240 where they try to obfuscate what the problem is it's just going to lead to more of it more tragedy
00:28:17.120 it does not have to be that way short commercial break back in the war room just a moment
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00:29:47.920 today
00:29:52.640 uh dr thayer is a huge bombing uh ballistic missile and drone attack in kiev last night uh i'm not going
00:30:03.200 to do justice to it this morning this afternoon at five o'clock and we're also going to have peter
00:30:07.680 navarro live from the white house for an interview uh and um dr thayer is also going to join us at
00:30:14.240 five o'clock so make sure you don't miss that tons going on in the and what i said the zero hedge has
00:30:18.800 an article i said it first here the other day and it's got to be now people serious people have started
00:30:25.520 looking at the surrender of this thing being over because europe's not going to step up it's just not
00:30:30.560 going to do it and the united states uh cannot step up uh because they're going to drag us into this
00:30:34.880 war so people adults really if you want to stop what's happening last night you got to get serious
00:30:39.840 about how you're going to wind this thing down and stop giving people false hope which is what
00:30:45.040 mersheimer said that was going to lead these people down the primorous path to the destruction which
00:30:51.040 is exactly happening look at the brutality of the of the strike last night the hit last night
00:30:55.920 uh a true hero of our movement i'm so honored to do this we just put it together at the last
00:30:59.600 second michael caputo now joins us from the war room michael is one of the very very very first
00:31:05.200 people into the maga movement one of the very first people that had the uh had the vision to
00:31:09.440 understand what donald trump could possibly do as president united states and michael uh probably more
00:31:14.800 than anybody your life literally has been destroyed then the the illness came up matt taibbi has an
00:31:20.000 incredible piece up in racket news and exclusive this morning for some russiagate never ended it's kind
00:31:26.160 of your story although i know it's more here just take it at the top and walk through when we talk
00:31:31.920 about the russia hoax and russiagate it's not a victimless crime here you're you are one of the
00:31:36.960 top victims of this crime of how it destroyed destroyed uh you and your family sir yes sir i
00:31:44.160 mean i think uh thanks for having me on steve the most important thing to take away from this piece
00:31:48.480 and racket news today is that they spied on the 2024 campaign we're digging up evidence of the spying on
00:31:55.920 the 2016 campaign we're going to get to evidence of the spying on the 2020 campaign but i can
00:32:01.680 tell you it was living proof that they were spying on the 2024 campaign as a campaign staffer in the
00:32:08.080 policy department the fbi had an open investigation on me they had a google user alert came to me in
00:32:16.560 march of 2025 just you know several weeks ago telling me that the fbi had uh just had a classified
00:32:24.480 subpoena against my emails my texts everything that i that comes through google uh avoid calls and things
00:32:30.800 uh and uh it is still open it's still open now i mean in fact uh i hired an attorney to find out more
00:32:38.480 and he said that the u.s attorney's office in washington dc opened this investigation after my
00:32:43.680 movie uh the ukraine hoax came out and uh uh and it named hunter biden and joe biden as taking money
00:32:52.160 from ukraine in fact i have the receipts of all of that and i talked about it in the movie and when they won
00:32:57.760 uh they they they went after me and they opened a fbi federal criminal investigation and it is still
00:33:06.480 open that's four and a half years and and the reason why i've gone public with this is because i just
00:33:12.880 want them to close it i want them to just leave my family my daughters my wife alone it's been you know
00:33:20.000 nine years of this i know it damn near killed me steve and it's it did kill people like lee avershaw
00:33:28.000 paul manafort's deputy in ukraine he died of cancer at the same time i had cancer i was you know uh you
00:33:34.560 know many other people paul manafort the president you know george papadopoulos roger stone others all
00:33:40.320 these people who suffered far more than i did i was always a witness they kept trying to flip me into a
00:33:46.720 uh subject and then a target but i had a very good attorney and they were never able to do it this
00:33:51.600 whole thing was a hoax the whole thing was complete fiction and they could not turn the fiction into
00:33:56.960 fact with me they did it with others with papadopoulos and poor poor carter page i've gotten to know all
00:34:03.200 these people very well ever since this happened some of us we call ourselves the remnants the leftovers
00:34:08.640 right now i kind of feel like a cigar butt in the ashtray you know and others do too you know uh i believe
00:34:16.240 that the president and cash and and and uh uh you know dan bongino and and tulsi gabbard especially
00:34:23.680 all these guys are doing their level best but you know what it is we're finding out now it was bigger
00:34:28.640 than we ever thought it reached into places that we never knew i am sure there are a thousand people
00:34:34.640 that did this yeah well i want to talk about that you go from 16 to 20 because your your revelation that
00:34:42.320 hey they were they were still doing it in the 2024 and they're going to continue to do it until we
00:34:48.240 expose it hold them accountable responsible accountability and put them in jail that you're
00:34:52.880 100 correct and walk me through that walk me through how big it is and what do we need to do to stop it
00:34:59.840 well it's interesting steve because the one thing uh uh tybee didn't cover there is i think a real
00:35:04.800 indication that this spying went on and it was directed at the president's 2024 campaign a week ago a
00:35:11.680 a friend of mine who worked on the ukraine hoax with me called me up and he said listen your
00:35:15.680 cameraman called me he told me that the fbi's all was all over him he was forced to uh into
00:35:22.240 interrogations three times and he's really sorry he wasn't allowed to tell you the fbi said it was
00:35:28.000 confidential he'd go to jail if he told you i said look 2021 was a very difficult time when they called
00:35:34.240 my movie russian funded a complete lie and my friend said no this happened in 2024 they went after
00:35:42.080 my cameraman the poor guy with a young child in may of 24 and they came at him two or three more times
00:35:48.240 i'm not sure and steve they ghosted him when joe biden dropped out of the race they were planning
00:35:55.200 something with all of this ukraine stuff in 2024 and it was taken away from them when joe biden kind of
00:36:01.760 crap the bed in in the debate here's the thing steve we my investigation is still open i know cash
00:36:08.640 and dan and and and tulsi are very very involved in this it's not just about michael caputo there are
00:36:14.400 dozens of michael caputo's involved here i think what they have to do is arrest people not just
00:36:20.400 investigate people arrest people i think they will too you know there's a lot of criticism for our
00:36:25.280 national security leaders right now if donald trump trusts them i trust them but all i'm asking for
00:36:31.120 steve right now is shut the investigation down i can't get a mortgage i can't get a global entry
00:36:36.880 visa god knows how else it's affecting my family please shut it down steve how it's really affecting
00:36:42.400 me right now is the judicial watch has has filed uh eight or nine different foyers and they've had to
00:36:49.200 sue the fbi the odni and the department of justice on my behalf today and the reason they have to do it
00:36:56.400 is because the fbi left that investigation open so they don't have to respond to foyer and if uh if
00:37:03.760 the trump administration is truly in charge of the fbi shut that down give me my foyer results and do it
00:37:09.760 as soon as you can give me i want to take a minute and walk through your journey here your what happened
00:37:16.480 to your family what happened to your finances what happened to your health i don't think people
00:37:20.800 even understand the very basics of how they tried to destroy you and came very close to doing it sir
00:37:28.880 well i i've been kind of on the trump team since i was his driver at the republican convention in 1988
00:37:34.720 i've been involved with him off and on all along the way i tried to get him to run for governor in new
00:37:40.080 york i tried to help him buy the buffalo bills i took on bon jovi for him and i was so honored to work
00:37:45.600 in 2016 and then in 2020 to be involved as assistant secretary of health during covid but i was so
00:37:52.640 stunned and and and tybee recounts this story i was over in moscow in march of 2017 this is actually
00:37:59.840 the first time it's ever been mentioned publicly is here uh uh and today's uh tybee in this um i was
00:38:06.640 over there with a leading democrat uh trying to figure out how we could improve relations with russia
00:38:14.560 in the new trump administration while i was there uh james comey and representative spear in an intel
00:38:20.320 committee name checked me and my whole life changed not only were they accusing me of being
00:38:26.480 a russian spy i was sitting outside the kremlin when they did it like my my advice to people who want to
00:38:33.520 get into international relations with i did to do it buy a you know get a passport see the world but
00:38:39.600 the problem we have now is these insular people in america especially the democrats who believe
00:38:44.960 that the russia hoax was the way to stop donald trump steve we they built this incredible fear
00:38:51.200 of russia you know i'm married to a ukrainian i have my complaints about russia and and i think
00:38:55.920 putin's a desperate in many ways but they created russia here i lived in russia for six years i was sent
00:39:02.480 there by bill clinton to meddle in their elections in the 90s i was there six years i can tell you we
00:39:09.200 expected to be spied on in russia the spying here is more intense and it feels worse because we're
00:39:16.080 supposed to be a nation of freedom you know after uh i became uh uh the assistant secretary of health
00:39:22.960 that was a very stressful time and i came down with throat cancer it damn near killed me damn near killed
00:39:28.800 me and it was during my throat cancer that they opened this investigation it's during my throat cancer
00:39:35.200 when the biden dni accused me of making a film about the russia the russia hoax i'm sorry that uh
00:39:42.400 the ukraine hoax which you can see on rumble um uh with russian money completely a lie absolutely a lie
00:39:49.200 but i was dying in bed when they did it and i couldn't even respond i couldn't even speak steve
00:39:56.240 i didn't even have a voice my throat was being radiated every single day right they knew i was down
00:40:02.400 and i was nearly dying and they came for me anyway these are not agents steve they're not
00:40:08.560 government employees they are demons in my opinion you shatter the fbi into a thousand pieces and
00:40:15.760 scatter those pieces to the wind but i'm not in charge i trust cash and dan to do the right thing
00:40:22.080 i agree they need to immediately cut back close my investigation i i i i trust these guys i know
00:40:30.320 cash is obviously like a brother than me dan's one of the best guys in the country but i agree
00:40:34.720 one thousand percent with you we got to shatter the fbi we can't go around playing footsie i've
00:40:39.120 only got you for a couple minutes i got it i want to ask the question point blank you said hey i don't
00:40:43.280 need to see investigations we need to see arrest give me the punch list of the top two or three people
00:40:50.160 four people that you think should be arrested immediately for what they've done to the country and
00:40:55.840 what they've done to american citizens sir andrew weissman john brennan peter strock scott mccabe
00:41:05.600 james comey and there are more steve and the problem we have here is that america supposedly a beacon
00:41:12.720 on the hill is a an absolute spy state now and it's it's turned into a virus it's the new code that
00:41:20.320 it's spreading around the world it's balsanaro they're going after with lawfare in brazil you
00:41:25.120 cover that so well it's dodic millerad dodic and the republic of serbska the virus has moved over
00:41:31.600 there where the united nations a high representative just fired him he earned 53 of the vote in the
00:41:38.800 republic of serbska and the u.n just said you're gone right this lawfare is a virus and if we don't
00:41:45.040 stop it here by arresting that list i just gave you the rest of the world is going down with lawfare
00:41:52.000 caputo okay this afternoon we're going to have on five shows back to back to back to back andrew
00:41:57.520 weissman who is the guy the guest that's on almost all the time starting with uh katie tur in the
00:42:03.360 afternoon going to nicole wallace all of it make your argument against weissman he he's he's got more
00:42:09.040 media time uh than the host of these shows so what is your case against andrew weissman sir
00:42:15.200 well weissman i think is going to be very difficult to get him uh uh through the russiagate hoax we'll
00:42:20.720 find things i'm sure that uh tulsi has it now they're releasing those documents but you know
00:42:25.920 people don't think about the way that weissman conducted himself when he was a government
00:42:30.720 employee i know that there are people looking into the way he was in and out of government and in and
00:42:37.280 out of uh of a law firm that represented uh uh criminals uh that were being investigated
00:42:43.840 investigated by the doj and prosecuted somehow or another he got rich i think we're going to find
00:42:50.000 out weissman is not just guilty of crimes and rushgate the guy is a walk-in criminal show
00:43:00.000 michael where can people get you we're going to get to taibi you're pushing this out now what's your
00:43:03.600 social media website all of it to find out more about your story and see your film the ukraine hoax
00:43:08.640 mm-hmm uh the ukraine hoax is up uh on my rumble account it's free of charge
00:43:13.920 a michael r caputo i'm at twitter at michael r caputo steve you know i really haven't put my
00:43:19.760 websites and stuff up because i just started talking again you know cancer takes the crap
00:43:24.320 out of you but you're i'm just getting started we're gonna we're gonna push the social media
00:43:30.560 out hard caputo one of the real heroes and patriots of this movement brother thank you for changing your
00:43:35.120 schedule coming into the war room appreciate you caputo's life has been held standing up for
00:43:41.360 president trump the country and the mega movement short break there's a lot of talk about government
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00:45:05.440 and do it today here's your host stephen k mann uh joe's gonna be back with us joe allen's gonna be
00:45:15.040 back with us at six i just want to repeat i put it up at denver i'll have it in a second the great
00:45:19.760 andy noe has got uh on his twitter account uh and this folks you got to read this now grace you got to
00:45:25.440 push it out trans what did i say what i say about this he's reporting trans leftist accounts all over
00:45:33.600 social media are celebrating the shooting and killing of children at the minneapolis church
00:45:39.120 church by a trans gunman they believe it is revenge against christianity and the trump administration
00:45:46.160 for not allowing transitioning children and defining sex as biological told you and you ought to see the
00:45:53.920 some of the evidence he has here it's absolutely sickening joe allen will dive more into this at six
00:45:58.400 o'clock as we go through this this is if we don't you got to face this problem you got to face
00:46:03.440 it now these problems only get worse if you look away only gets worse uh grace and mo if you can
00:46:09.680 put that out for everybody in the war room posse to see by the way uh charlie kirks will be here at
00:46:14.320 noon so big after that we're back at uh we're back five to seven tonight um natalie dominguez i i keep
00:46:21.920 saying people when they when they have this when you have a house you have a home and you have a title
00:46:27.920 right every dream you've ever had is in that home but that can turn into a nightmare so quickly
00:46:36.560 right do no fault of your own except the fact you haven't you haven't had time walk us through
00:46:41.360 it for a second because today with cyber with artificial intelligence the sophistication of that
00:46:46.880 with with rogue accountants rogue lawyers and particularly the rudimentary system we have for
00:46:52.080 protection folks and i tell you folks when this happens you look at natalie's stories and all the
00:46:57.520 things we pull from public media your life changes because all of your time is sucked up into getting
00:47:03.360 this thing sorted and the and the anxiety it'll put years on it'll take years away from stuff you want
00:47:09.040 to do to have to deal with this mess but the anxiety will take years off your life because every day
00:47:14.880 you're sitting there going are they going to take my house i'm going to lose everything natalie
00:47:18.800 dominguez home title lock the floor is yours ma'am thanks steve so you know what you're talking about
00:47:26.400 is something that we talk about all the time right ai cyber ever since covid everything being so easily
00:47:32.000 done online i mean this this scam this crime has just gotten so completely out of hand you know we
00:47:37.920 talk about the fbi report last year that said that vacant property fraud alone went up 500 in the
00:47:43.840 four years since covid which is insane um we often talk about scammers and criminals that are you know
00:47:50.000 filing these fraudulent quick claim deeds or warranty deeds at public records and then they have you know
00:47:55.840 when you talk about a title i you know we're we talk about this often it's your concept of ownership
00:48:00.640 right so when they file this at the county your concept of ownership is now no longer yours so then
00:48:06.400 they can go behind your back and sell your home we've seen homes get bulldozed by real estate companies
00:48:11.440 um but what i want to talk about today it's a kind of different kind of fraud it's a fraud that's
00:48:16.240 unfortunately kind of legit and i i really want the posse you know anyone with elderly parents
00:48:22.080 grandparents family and friends really need to kind of take this next report to heart um hot off the
00:48:27.680 presses phoenix arizona uh edward trenton i'm gonna murder this name albert alberison and gretchen marie
00:48:35.600 zamjan ran a predatory real estate scheme uh misleading under misleading names like hands with
00:48:43.280 hope advertising that they could rescue homeowners from foreclosure and the 50 plus known victims
00:48:50.880 they're thinking there are many more but the 50 plus known victims were primarily elder arizonans
00:48:57.280 already struggling financially so these homeowners were told by these you know this real estate couple
00:49:03.280 that they needed to temporarily transfer their deeds into trust so that they could stay in their homes
00:49:09.200 instead the deeds were then transferred into shell llc is fully controlled by this couple so they now
00:49:16.000 had full control over the equity in these homes um and you know the the guy signed the deeds the wife
00:49:22.960 illegally notarized them despite being the spouse with direct financial stake um and reports haven't come
00:49:28.880 out yet on how they found out about the fraud but we do have you know the ag website report and and
00:49:35.120 thank god for people like attorney general mays um she filed suit against the couple alleging consumer
00:49:42.800 fraud and exploitation of vulnerable adults but they also sought emergency receivership over all of the
00:49:48.480 criminals assets to prevent further fraud 50 plus known victims all elderly struggling to stay in their
00:49:55.760 homes financially so the reason this is super scary right steve is because generally the way it happens
00:50:01.200 is they file fraudulent paperwork etc we talk about this all the time handwriting experts sworn testimony
00:50:07.120 sworn testimony illegitimate notary stamps um can still take months to years to unwind but in this case
00:50:13.840 they got the elderly homeowners to legitimately sign over their home and because this scam is no longer just
00:50:21.040 a fraudulent piece of paperwork with a fake notary stamp that you have to prove is you know legit or
00:50:26.240 not from the scammer's perspective they have the real signature they have the real homeowner there's so
00:50:31.200 much now that you have to do to prove fraud and coercion because on paper this is like completely legit
00:50:38.000 right it's not a random notary stamp that no one can find the notary um so let's say now steve let's say you
00:50:45.520 you're the the uh child of an elderly parent you can sign up your parents home with us so it's not just
00:50:52.160 your own home you can sign up your parents home with us or if they sign themselves up you can designate
00:50:56.560 yourself as a member that gets notified on their account so you would have been notified the moment that
00:51:03.440 something happened with their property um if something was filed against it and this is what's really
00:51:08.320 really important for us especially for the elderly right i talk about my grandparents in florida all the
00:51:13.360 time i love them dearly my dad talks to my grandfather every single day but not every
00:51:19.280 family is like that so if you have you know elderly people in your life that could be taken advantage
00:51:24.400 50 plus victims just in phoenix just in phoenix imagine this happening anywhere else and that's the
00:51:29.920 ones that we know about um so we would jump in take over the legal process from start to finish
00:51:35.760 and make sure that you and your family are in good hands um and steve something that we don't
00:51:41.280 actually usually talk right now yeah no no go ahead home title lock i just want to know where do
00:51:49.120 people go right yeah where and to talk to you directly they go to home title lock promo code steve
00:51:55.840 uh but i wanted to get all this information because particularly all your different things that you can
00:52:00.800 get your parents on there this is the they're getting more and more sophisticated the cyber criminals
00:52:07.280 the artificial intelligence and particularly the rogue actors they understand there's trillions of
00:52:12.720 dollars locked up in home equity throughout the throughout the country and they're after it
00:52:18.800 trust me and they're going to look at going after the elderly first home title lock dot com promo
00:52:24.160 code steve you got natalie dominguez and your team natalie thank you so much for joining us here in the
00:52:28.640 world i appreciate it thanks steve although you scared the hell out of me he's he scared the hell
00:52:33.840 out of every w on unbelievable how demonic are people to do that with people that have worked
00:52:40.400 all their lives to have a little something got to protect yourself okay charlie kirk is next
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