Bannon's War Room - September 04, 2025


Episode 4755： Chinese Organ Harvesting And Realising The Epstein Files


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Travis Kelsey reflects on his engagement to Taylor Swift. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez demands answers from the star chamber of the Star Chamber, and calls for the release of all documents related to the Epstein scandal.

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00:00:29.000 Five minutes now before the hour.
00:00:30.600 Travis Kelsey reflecting on his big engagement to Taylor Swift.
00:00:33.960 I think it's the first time we've heard from him.
00:00:35.840 That is today's Hammer Celebrity News.
00:00:37.960 The Chiefs tight end who will be on the field this week telling his brother how things have changed since the big announcement 10 days ago.
00:00:46.800 I felt that at the game actually.
00:00:48.020 Fox has not shown a second, I don't think, of this hearing.
00:00:52.400 Right?
00:00:52.800 You know why?
00:00:53.200 Because they're taking big farmer money. 0.64
00:00:55.560 Hello?
00:00:56.780 Big farmer money.
00:00:57.700 And didn't show.
00:00:59.200 They were talking about, was it Travis, the football player, tight end of the Chiefs, and was it Tay-Tay, Tata, whatever, Tay-Tay, her engagement.
00:01:09.500 Seriously, they're showing that this morning.
00:01:11.840 That's what's taking place of the star chamber Bobby Kennedy's going through.
00:01:15.140 Remember, big farmers paid for this hearing.
00:01:17.660 They want to let Bobby Kennedy answer.
00:01:19.380 They threw up lie after lie after lie and invective.
00:01:22.020 And his great response, hey, yo, you guys have sat here, one or all, you've been here 25, 30 years.
00:01:27.460 What have you done about this?
00:01:28.500 Nothing but go along with big pharma.
00:01:30.220 They won't answer that.
00:01:31.780 You heard Bennett.
00:01:32.300 I'm asking the questions here.
00:01:33.620 They don't want to be there.
00:01:34.440 They don't want to have to answer for anything.
00:01:37.940 Viva Fry, I want to go back to the beginning because we showed it nonstop yesterday.
00:01:42.520 You are, I want, you support releasing all the documents, getting full disclosure.
00:01:46.600 What did you not like then about yesterday, sir?
00:01:52.300 What it ended up looking like is that this has been co-opted and hijacked in the exact same way the Me Too movement was co-opted and hijacked to be weaponized for political purposes and to go after anybody who was an ideological adversary.
00:02:04.860 When you had the women out there saying, we know the names, we are standing up for justice so that no victims ever get victimized again in the future, protect the children, but we're not going to mention any names, period.
00:02:18.220 And that other woman who, you know, was talking about her modeling career and how she ended up on Epstein's Island to witness things, I don't know that she was actually a victim of Epstein's sexual abuses, saying, you know, we're going to make our own list and we're going to keep it confidential.
00:02:31.920 Stay tuned for more.
00:02:32.920 I mean, it looked cheap and tawdry and it looked like they had co-opted Massey's righteous initial motion or the House resolution to disclose the documents and are co-opting it to bastardize it for their own whatever purposes.
00:02:48.400 Making a list of not just abusers, but anyone in Epstein's orbit, keeping it confidential for the victims, that sounds like extortion.
00:02:56.240 And so in as much as Bondi has blown this Epstein document release, they've embarrassed some of the alternative media that support Trump.
00:03:04.840 I think it's compromised Trump unnecessarily.
00:03:07.640 Massey puts forward a decent, you know, bipartisan with Ro Khanna support and it gets co-opted by what we saw yesterday.
00:03:13.720 It looked like a dog in front of the show.
00:03:15.400 It had nothing to do with disclosure, justice and naming names.
00:03:18.240 It had to do with self-promotion and promising things for the future that they have in their hands right now.
00:03:24.060 Do you think, are they, you're a lawyer, are there lawyers telling them some reason that they could not at least give some of the names?
00:03:32.840 I mean, many times they talked and they also, I think, raised the stakes because I don't remember this coming out in the Maxwell trial.
00:03:38.540 Well, maybe it did, right?
00:03:39.740 I don't follow these things that closely.
00:03:41.620 But a couple of victims said they were raped and then passed around or trafficked to be raped some more by powerful people in politics, finance, business and entertainment.
00:03:53.300 Was it some, and this is obviously stuff that's over 20 years old, is would any of lawyer have told them you can't say the names?
00:04:02.080 I mean, why weren't they able to say, is there some restriction they had to come forward, at least with a couple of the names yesterday, to let people know that this was something more than just Maxwell and Epstein?
00:04:14.820 You know, a number of people float a number of reasons why.
00:04:17.840 They can't name them because they live in fear.
00:04:19.940 And so to that argument, I say, if you're living in fear of what your abusers might do to you, you don't come out on a platform and say, I'm going to name you in the future.
00:04:29.480 Or you sit there and wait and wait for me to name you.
00:04:32.560 It's the exact opposite of what you would do.
00:04:34.640 Have they signed NDAs because they might have gotten compensated for their abuse and therefore contractually cannot disclose the names?
00:04:41.720 Possibly.
00:04:42.820 And then, you know, I say possibly, but even then, then it sort of does taint their pursuit of justice.
00:04:49.580 That if they've received compensation and signed NDAs and now they say, well, we want you to release the names because we already got compensated for what we claim to have happened to us in the past.
00:04:59.480 The other argument they say is defamation.
00:05:01.840 If they say they might get sued for defamation, you're dealing, people came out yesterday and said, Virginia Gouffre is a national hero for having done, did what she did.
00:05:10.240 And we're not going to do it because we're afraid of getting sued for naming the people who we claim sexually abused us.
00:05:17.460 I have never been in that position, so I don't know what is a normal human response.
00:05:20.820 I won't judge it, but it doesn't do wonders to promote this purportedly bipartisan bill, which now looks like a total gong show.
00:05:30.420 And so if I'm Thomas Massey, I'm irritated having seen what I saw yesterday because it is not going to garner any more support for what I think should have been a pretty straightforward thing to do.
00:05:40.380 Pass the bill.
00:05:41.340 Release the documents in as much as you can without breaking the law.
00:05:43.820 Don't release 30 some odd thousand pages individually scanned, making it unsearchable, highly redacted so the liars on Twitter can say, I wonder why this entire passage is redacted because it must have Trump's name in it.
00:05:55.020 When the victims yesterday come out and say Trump was supportive, you know, back in the day, we never allege that he's done anything bad.
00:06:01.400 Whether or not the release would embarrass people in high places or other countries with which we want to maintain diplomatic relations, it's possible.
00:06:10.540 But it doesn't matter because if they don't and they keep bungling this release of the Epstein files, the political ramifications at home are going to be such that the Democrats are going to continue weaponizing it, much like they've done.
00:06:22.700 Weaponizing the refusal to follow through on what was not a campaign promise, but a campaign issue that Trump himself brought up and brought to the fore.
00:06:30.500 So I don't understand the entire debacle from the get-go.
00:06:33.520 I think someone needs to replace Pan Blondie. 1.00
00:06:35.740 Bayley would be a good replacement.
00:06:37.420 But yesterday did nothing to help the cause.
00:06:40.240 Yeah, particularly the situation.
00:06:43.000 I think most of these are Democrats.
00:06:45.140 I think that's one of the ironies here.
00:06:48.000 The Dershowitz thing yesterday, because we covered it all, and somebody asked a question about Dershowitz and Virginia.
00:06:54.260 And I guess she retracted some statements she made about Dershowitz.
00:06:57.940 I'm kind of confused about that, but what was amazing is that the people that wanted full disclosure shut down the reporter.
00:07:05.560 They said Dershowitz was paying him, and it was untrue, and that didn't happen.
00:07:09.940 Do you know what are the details of that?
00:07:11.800 Because it sounded odd for people that wanted full disclosure to be jumping some guy who's asking a question about,
00:07:18.360 did she change her testimony at some point in time and exonerate or attempt to exonerate Dershowitz?
00:07:26.160 Absolutely.
00:07:26.660 So the question, as far as I could hear it, I would love to know who the journalist was,
00:07:30.380 was asking questions about Virginia Gouffre having made allegations against Dershowitz and retracted them.
00:07:35.740 And when people retract statements, they're going to say exoneration,
00:07:39.660 or others are going to say intimidation, just depending on your perspective.
00:07:42.540 I personally, this is not defending Dershowitz, I don't think Dershowitz is guilty of anything.
00:07:47.620 What Dershowitz did mention at one point on another podcast, I think it might have been with,
00:07:52.060 I want to say Posobiec, but I might be wrong, is that some people made some false accusations
00:07:56.880 because, much like with the Me Too movement, people see dollar signs.
00:08:00.460 And it's cynical and it's gross, but it's reality.
00:08:03.120 There are legitimate, bona fide victims of Epstein sexual abuse,
00:08:06.400 and sexual abuse involving others, because I don't think Ghislaine was trafficking only to Epstein.
00:08:10.840 And then there are other opportunistic players who come in and see dollar signs,
00:08:15.260 say, I'm going to make some accusations against some high-profile people, and I'll get paid too.
00:08:19.680 And so when Dershowitz said, there is a list, I've seen it, it's got names,
00:08:23.220 but it's also redacting the names of people who made false accusations, that's a plausible explanation.
00:08:29.980 But when a journalist comes out yesterday and starts asking questions,
00:08:32.240 what about some of the false statements that were retracted or recanted?
00:08:36.120 And then you have these alleged victims rejoicing in the silencing of a journalist
00:08:39.580 who's giving them the attention that they claim to so desperately want?
00:08:43.700 It just made it all look very cheap, very exploitive, very partisan.
00:08:48.280 When you get Gloria Allred appearing out of the blue,
00:08:51.140 I mean, it's like saying Candyman three times in the mirror.
00:08:53.740 The entire movement has been bastardized, corrupted, and now is being counterproductive.
00:08:58.240 And we showed her, she was the last speaker.
00:09:02.520 She comes up, I'm surprised she still didn't have her Hillary button, 1.00
00:09:05.340 so I had to deal with her in the 26th campaign. 0.99
00:09:07.960 We had to deal with all her lies and misrepresentations. 0.58
00:09:12.340 So Pam Bondi has said on Fox that there was a list that was on her desk.
00:09:17.480 Dershowitz, I don't want to repeat what Dershowitz said, he said he'd seen a list.
00:09:21.340 Isn't that one of the fundamental questions people have?
00:09:23.580 Is there some list out there?
00:09:25.180 Are these women going to provide it? 1.00
00:09:27.900 Or was there already a list beforehand?
00:09:29.720 I mean, this is some of the just basic fundamental questions
00:09:32.960 that folks that want to have full disclosure on this have.
00:09:36.220 I mean, can you give, have people before said there's actually a list?
00:09:40.160 And if they say it, if Dershowitz and Pam Bondi say it,
00:09:43.220 how can you kind of unsay it?
00:09:44.580 Because one's the Attorney General of the United States,
00:09:47.080 the other is one of the most prominent constitutional lawyers around,
00:09:50.960 and a colleague and close friend of Epstein.
00:09:55.760 There is the expression you don't attribute to malice,
00:09:58.520 what could be explained away by incompetence.
00:10:00.580 When it comes to Pam Bondi, I had no opinion of her when she was appointed. 0.99
00:10:05.460 I would have preferred Matt Gaetz personally.
00:10:07.700 I had no opinion of her, but performance has been what it has been.
00:10:10.960 You can't say certain things in a certain position
00:10:13.380 and then just walk it back and pretend like it never happened.
00:10:16.360 Even her explanation for what she says she intended to mean
00:10:19.620 when she said there's a list on my desk, yada, yada,
00:10:22.020 coupled with the missing minute,
00:10:23.560 which has now been contradicted by the actual evidence.
00:10:27.760 It compromises the credibility of that department of the administration,
00:10:32.880 and it happens to be a big one, the DOJ.
00:10:35.220 Is there a list, like a checklist, a to-do list?
00:10:37.460 Hey, this is client X, Y, and Z.
00:10:38.820 No, but there were unnamed, unindicted co-conspirators
00:10:43.240 who were given blanket pardons under the 2008 plea deal.
00:10:46.820 Those are names.
00:10:48.400 I mean, what's going to be the rationale to say
00:10:50.580 we're not going to release the names of the unindicted co-conspirators
00:10:53.520 who got effectively a non-prosecution agreement
00:10:57.540 under this deal in 2008 that made no sense?
00:11:00.020 That's the list of the names that we want.
00:11:02.260 People who were financing Jeffrey Epstein.
00:11:04.480 People who were at the island.
00:11:06.360 They might not all be guilty,
00:11:07.880 but nobody's expecting a list of,
00:11:09.280 hey, here's my favorite clients for sexual abuse.
00:11:12.040 But everybody knows colloquially what we're talking about.
00:11:14.320 People in the orbit, people who participated in it,
00:11:16.840 people who were unindicted, unnamed,
00:11:18.880 but got non-prosecution agreements,
00:11:20.740 and people who visited the island.
00:11:22.340 Because if you visited that island,
00:11:23.940 you may not be a sexual abuser,
00:11:25.560 but my goodness, people are entitled to know
00:11:27.960 at this point in time.
00:11:29.180 And more secrecy just allows this to be used against Trump
00:11:32.260 the way we saw with that stupid, rubbish story of a letter, 0.50
00:11:36.300 the boobies with the signature of Donald Trump.
00:11:38.960 The birthday, yeah.
00:11:40.520 The longer it goes on, the more it gets used against Trump.
00:11:42.400 Wall Street Journal, just hang her for one second. 1.00
00:11:45.980 I'll hold you through the break.
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00:13:31.240 Okay, welcome back.
00:13:32.240 Viva, what are your coordinates?
00:13:33.680 A lot of people are going to be watching you
00:13:35.240 about this entire, you know, what's happening
00:13:38.940 because it's got to come to some culmination.
00:13:41.420 They've got the Oversight Committee.
00:13:43.000 It's up on the Hill.
00:13:44.120 It's, it's, it's, I can tell you folks,
00:13:47.520 MSNBC for the rest of the night was nothing but Epstein
00:13:51.760 with a little Bobby Kennedy thrown in, firing the CDC.
00:13:55.420 But it was, they're obsessed.
00:13:57.140 They're absolutely obsessed by it.
00:13:58.400 So Viva, where do people go to kind of have your clear-headed
00:14:01.460 thinking on this topic?
00:14:03.520 Well, I'm live daily on Rumble at three o'clock.
00:14:06.040 So Viva Fry on Rumble. 1.00
00:14:07.600 And if you put in Viva Fry in the search engine,
00:14:09.600 you'll, you'll, you'll find me on the internet.
00:14:11.660 But Viva Fry, we've got an amazing community
00:14:13.700 at VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com.
00:14:16.460 And Twitter, it's TheVivaFry.
00:14:18.640 And I'm covering this.
00:14:19.780 I'm sort of, seem to be pissing off everybody these days
00:14:22.040 with this because I'm sort of pissing off the,
00:14:24.040 the Trump side that thinks that, you know,
00:14:26.480 the Oversight Committee is doing enough.
00:14:27.720 I'm pissing off the Massey side by sort of, you know,
00:14:29.820 saying that yesterday didn't go well for Massey.
00:14:31.480 And people are accusing me of not being sensitive
00:14:33.900 to the victims.
00:14:34.500 But I'm saying if you're a bona fide victim
00:14:36.000 and you saw what went down yesterday,
00:14:37.680 you should be pissed because that is compromising
00:14:39.660 your purported aspirations of all of this,
00:14:42.560 which is disclosure and justice
00:14:43.680 and preventing future victims.
00:14:46.440 But what you're saying, correct me if I'm wrong,
00:14:49.180 and it gives them time too to get their list together
00:14:51.200 because they weren't either prepared
00:14:53.900 or they were told not to by their lawyers
00:14:55.920 come forward yesterday.
00:14:57.040 You would think in doing that very dramatic, you know, event,
00:15:03.220 and let's take the pre-event out,
00:15:04.400 which Gloria Allred and some of the lawyers are running. 0.80
00:15:06.100 Let's take the event itself.
00:15:07.640 You would assume to have the mass, the maximum impact,
00:15:12.280 you would have brought up at least a few names
00:15:14.640 when they talk about the rich and powerful
00:15:15.980 to let people know that it's somebody more than Maxwell
00:15:18.800 and Epstein and then drive the story forward.
00:15:22.560 They brought up Lex Wexner and Les Wexner
00:15:27.080 to say how, you know, Epstein got his financing.
00:15:29.320 But Epstein was circulating these women,
00:15:32.060 according to their own admissions,
00:15:33.420 around his circle of friends.
00:15:35.580 You're afraid of lawsuits but doing this.
00:15:38.060 You're afraid of retribution but doing this.
00:15:40.980 No, look, and then teasing out,
00:15:43.740 making your own private list
00:15:44.940 that you're going to use for whatever the problem is.
00:15:46.580 Do you think the Oversight Committee,
00:15:49.480 which obviously the Republicans and President Trump
00:15:51.300 are telling people to focus on,
00:15:53.460 don't you think that they can, it'll take them longer,
00:15:55.620 but don't you think they can get to the same place?
00:15:58.000 I think they're getting to the same place.
00:15:59.800 And that's why, you know,
00:16:00.740 between the action of the Oversight Committee
00:16:02.900 and the civil war that the Massey discharge petition
00:16:06.420 seems to be igniting, you know,
00:16:08.340 people are getting frustrated.
00:16:10.000 At least there's pressure now,
00:16:11.360 but there's progress now.
00:16:13.100 But there's progress now only after the pressure
00:16:14.760 that everyone was putting on Bondi
00:16:17.100 when they were being told to let the Epstein story go.
00:16:19.720 Like fun, we're going to let the Epstein story go.
00:16:23.680 Viva, everybody will tune in to three.
00:16:25.640 How about that?
00:16:26.260 And get you on social media.
00:16:27.400 Where are you coming in hot?
00:16:29.280 So thank you very much, sir.
00:16:30.880 Thank you for having me.
00:16:32.600 He's upsetting everybody equally,
00:16:35.040 which is normally a good thing.
00:16:38.340 Jan, I call it Jake-a-lick, right?
00:16:44.360 You're telling me Jake-a-lick is the Polish name.
00:16:46.360 First off, you were at the speech yesterday.
00:16:48.100 Do good.
00:16:49.440 Yesterday was a glorious day for Poland in America.
00:16:53.180 Was it not, Jan?
00:16:55.460 A hundred percent.
00:16:56.920 And I mean, I do think you actually nailed it in the speech.
00:17:00.380 I think when you talk about Poland,
00:17:02.200 actually it brings out the best in you,
00:17:03.920 if I may say that.
00:17:05.660 Because Poles, you know, I'm Polish.
00:17:07.880 I'm a native speaker.
00:17:09.300 My parents escaped communist Poland.
00:17:11.440 That's how I learned about the horrors of that system from the beginning.
00:17:15.920 And Poles, you know, have that same zest for freedom,
00:17:20.120 that same desire, core desire for freedom,
00:17:22.420 that attracts people to America,
00:17:24.880 that attracts people to the American idea.
00:17:27.340 And as another gentleman pointed out the other day,
00:17:30.440 Poland also had the first democratic constitution in Europe, right?
00:17:34.160 So the Poland and America have a lot in common.
00:17:37.940 You have been on this show many times,
00:17:41.240 and we always talk about your reports.
00:17:42.980 We love the Epoch Times.
00:17:44.100 We think it's the best broadsheet in the world.
00:17:46.780 And you have been one of the leaders,
00:17:48.500 as the folks over the Epoch Times,
00:17:49.840 in telling the world the dangers to Lao Bajing
00:17:54.540 and to the world at large of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:17:57.280 So this was the headline in today's Financial Times.
00:18:01.180 And it's obviously geopolitically we're at an inflection point in world history, right?
00:18:07.240 And this was brought about by many people in the West,
00:18:11.340 leaders in the West, business leaders, finance leaders, corporate leaders,
00:18:14.960 kicking the can down the road and being in business with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:18:19.740 And, Jan, we'd love to have you back on,
00:18:21.540 and maybe hopefully this weekend or something.
00:18:23.080 I want to break it down with some experts like yourself
00:18:24.940 and go through it for the audience.
00:18:26.120 However, I have you on here for something very specific.
00:18:30.720 The most important thing that came out of this military parade
00:18:33.800 and the show of force of the BRICS nations,
00:18:36.380 and they had a conference call with taking down the dollar.
00:18:39.760 You had everybody up on the podium,
00:18:41.260 and you particularly had Mini-Me over at North Korea,
00:18:45.500 the first time he's on the podium,
00:18:47.480 actually seeing a military parade with the Chinese Communist Party
00:18:50.860 and the KGB Putin and many others.
00:18:53.200 He's got the moolahs up there, the people that run Persia, all of them. 1.00
00:19:00.480 The most important thing that happened, I believe, the buried lead,
00:19:03.900 was the sidebar conversation that was caught on a hot mic between Putin and Xi.
00:19:08.520 Remember, Putin and Xi are two of the three most powerful people in the world,
00:19:12.920 the third being your guy, Donald John Trump,
00:19:16.520 who's down here at the White House at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
00:19:19.340 And Xi and Putin are talking about transhumanism.
00:19:26.560 They're talking about how they have technology now coming from, wait for it,
00:19:33.200 organ harvesting, who Jan's the world's expert on this, right,
00:19:37.160 that they can get new organs, fresh organs from living human beings
00:19:40.760 and that they believe they themselves are on the cusp of living to 150 years old
00:19:47.740 and that others that will come shortly thereafter will have total immortality.
00:19:53.620 Is this, after all the abuse, Falun Gong and Epoch Times, 0.98
00:19:58.980 and you got for years and years and years about this was some fantasy,
00:20:02.860 this another conspiracy theory, these people are nutcases, 0.50
00:20:05.480 you can't trust them, you've got to trust the CCP.
00:20:09.300 Do you feel a little bit of relief that the truth has come out from the demon's own lips, sir?
00:20:16.900 This is almost a, I mean, it's the most serious experience
00:20:21.180 because it, I mean, it's kind of the last thing I would expect.
00:20:24.460 This is the dark secret that the Chinese Communist Party never, ever wants to admit to, 0.93
00:20:30.060 that Xi Jinping never wants to admit to.
00:20:32.260 It's been something that's been happening at scale for at least 25 years.
00:20:36.940 It's something they've never had a credible response to.
00:20:39.480 It's always just been denial and attack the messenger.
00:20:43.160 That's all it's been.
00:20:44.160 So to hear it actually, you know, a discussion of continuous,
00:20:48.760 continually transplanting organs to achieve immortality,
00:20:52.380 perhaps 150 years, Xi Jinping responds to Vladimir Putin.
00:20:57.360 I mean, it's very clear what they're talking about.
00:21:00.220 And, you know, the evidence around this with the China Tribunal and, again, 25 years of work
00:21:05.700 that's been basically done, or at least 20 years of work that's been done to figure this out,
00:21:10.080 because that's when we realized it was real, is, I think, incontrovertible at this point.
00:21:14.900 And now they've actually validated it.
00:21:16.820 What does this mean?
00:21:20.640 What does this moment in history mean?
00:21:22.040 They've come together because, hey, I've been having conversations with people and saying,
00:21:25.540 don't think they're not offering some people that come on their side and build this new axis,
00:21:31.260 not just to control the range and landmass, but the entire world for world domination.
00:21:35.020 Don't think they're not offering these guys, hey, look, we can get you to 125 right now
00:21:40.020 and keep you healthy and, you know, keep you sexually active and, you know,
00:21:44.240 with a little spring in your step and an active ruler.
00:21:47.040 What are the geopolitical implications?
00:21:49.720 Because this is made in China 2025.
00:21:52.080 When you and I used to talk about that, I said, hey, you know,
00:21:54.680 the top 10 industries that they want to dominate by the year 2025, what year are we in?
00:21:59.340 Oh, yeah, that's right, 2025.
00:22:00.600 The top five were advanced chip design, quantum computing, artificial general intelligence,
00:22:08.440 artificial intelligence, regenerative robotics, and wait for it, CRISPR and biotechnologies.
00:22:13.820 Those were the top five.
00:22:15.540 That is the five you need to converge to get to the singularity.
00:22:19.120 These folks are very strategic and they're very focused.
00:22:22.920 The geopolitical impact of what they were saying is more, folks,
00:22:27.280 than the important than the geopolitical impact of this military.
00:22:30.600 Because it implies the top types of advanced technologies they are working on
00:22:37.200 in the darkest, secret, most place of the Chinese Communist Party in the KGB.
00:22:43.880 Sir.
00:22:45.840 Steve, first of all, let me just clarify exactly what we're talking about for the uninitiated.
00:22:51.040 We're talking about unlimited, at-scale, on-demand killing of prisoners of conscience
00:23:00.140 for their organs for the Chinese elites and wealthy transplant tourists.
00:23:05.020 That's the shortest way to summarize what's happening.
00:23:08.060 And that this has happened at such a scale, we're talking, by best estimates, 60,000 to 100,000
00:23:13.380 transplants a year, okay, since at least the mid-2000s.
00:23:18.160 So this is a very large scale.
00:23:19.900 This is a lot of money.
00:23:20.800 But more importantly, if you're someone that believes that there is no God, that there is
00:23:26.160 no connection to the divine, that there's no moral guardrails at all, what it means is life.
00:23:32.140 And that is exactly what they're talking about.
00:23:34.040 There was an example of a Chinese official that basically had multiple, this was actually
00:23:40.080 disclosed by someone else that was sort of, you know, kind of doing a eulogy for them,
00:23:43.980 who had had, during COVID, multiple organs replaced.
00:23:47.900 And, you know, it kind of, in many of these leaders right now that I was looking at the
00:23:52.160 average, I think 88 is the average age now that these leaders have, a lot much higher
00:23:58.980 than the general population and even other parts of the world.
00:24:02.600 So I think they're kind of sending a message here.
00:24:05.880 And they're sending a message, we're doing the kind of work that, you know, you weren't
00:24:10.780 allowed to do out there for those of you that might be interested.
00:24:14.040 And we can, frankly, set you up.
00:24:15.720 So let's get in bed together.
00:24:17.300 I think that's a message.
00:24:18.360 And in a sense, for people that don't believe there's accountability in heaven or something
00:24:23.360 of this nature, that could be very attractive because, you know, that extends one's life.
00:24:29.120 And, you know, at the moment, there's a limit on that.
00:24:32.600 And this is what their quest is for.
00:24:34.660 So I think the geopolitical implications, as you correctly say, are absolutely massive.
00:24:41.020 And in a way, I almost wonder whether this hot mic moment, you know, nothing ever happens
00:24:45.940 at the Chinese Communist Party that isn't selected, right?
00:24:49.020 And I'm almost wondering if this hot mic moment wasn't a kind of a message, a coded message
00:24:54.840 or something like that.
00:24:55.600 I'm not a, you know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but they are really, really meticulous about
00:25:00.700 not getting anything unwanted out.
00:25:03.160 First off, it was a hot mic.
00:25:05.280 There'd be a hundred dead technicians, right?
00:25:08.280 It would go through.
00:25:09.600 No, they have in the, what, the 20 years of his reign or rule or the 15 years and everything.
00:25:15.400 You've never had a hot mic moment like this.
00:25:17.460 So, no, I don't believe for a second it was just caught on where they want the word out.
00:25:22.020 They want to promulgate it.
00:25:23.920 Jan, you've done amazing work, the Epoch Times.
00:25:25.940 And so, folks that have not been following this for years, they were criticized as cranks,
00:25:32.260 as conspiracy theorists.
00:25:33.720 And now, from the demons' own mouths, you've heard exactly what they're doing.
00:25:38.720 Not what they're planning on doing, what they're doing and what they're offering for, at least
00:25:43.280 today, potential immortality and at least extending human life to 120 to 150 years old.
00:25:50.200 And you're absolutely right.
00:25:51.520 It's the demons.
00:25:52.480 It's the summoning of the demons.
00:25:54.060 And this is why this is so dark and has to be, quite frankly, shut down.
00:25:58.460 Jan, where do people go for your reporting, Epoch Times, all your social media, all of it, sir?
00:26:04.700 Theepochtimes.com, of course.
00:26:06.280 You can look up American Thought Leaders.
00:26:08.260 It's on the front page.
00:26:09.320 You can also look up my YouTube channel, which seems to be less censored these days.
00:26:13.400 So we're actually getting more traction.
00:26:14.920 I welcome you to visit us there.
00:26:16.500 The other thing, and this is part of the surreal experience.
00:26:18.600 I just signed a contract with Skyhorse to write a book on exactly this issue.
00:26:23.080 But it's basically using this horrible organ harvesting industry as a lens to understand
00:26:30.140 the Chinese Communist Party writ large.
00:26:33.040 And so it's going to be coming out in February.
00:26:35.280 And it's almost like, in that sense, this hot mic was a gift because guess where the book
00:26:39.560 is going to be starting?
00:26:42.220 Baby.
00:26:42.940 Oh, baby.
00:26:44.100 Skyhorse.
00:26:44.640 Best publisher out there.
00:26:45.620 Best publishers here with great people.
00:26:48.600 Yeah, and we look forward to that.
00:26:49.980 And we look forward to your reporting.
00:26:51.560 And thank God you and the guys at the Epoch Times were on watch here.
00:26:55.780 Really appreciate you.
00:26:57.240 Thank you, Steve.
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00:29:50.780 Okay, let me go to Nothing's Happening at the Star Chamber.
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00:29:59.360 Naomi Wolf is going to join us to go through it.
00:30:02.160 An inquisition.
00:30:03.360 Bobby Kennedy, I think, gave better than he got, but you see how Big Pharma lines up on
00:30:08.420 this.
00:30:08.720 Maybe Charlie Kirk will pick up some of it in the next hour.
00:30:11.480 In fact, if we get another one of these demon Democrats up there, let's go to it live. 1.00
00:30:14.780 Chris Hoare, talk to me, brother.
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00:30:22.700 They are jacked up this morning because Bobby Kennedy, they've been trying to tear Bobby
00:30:26.360 Kennedy apart in process of trying to fire him as Secretary of HHS, sir.
00:30:31.720 Well, Steve, we've got a lot to be concerned about this week.
00:30:36.240 You're reminded there about what the Chinese are doing, their show for us yesterday with
00:30:39.480 North Korea and Russia.
00:30:41.080 And that is, to me, just a reminder that we as Americans need to be prepared for anything
00:30:45.100 at any time.
00:30:46.440 The number one way to do that is to make sure that you have communications that will work
00:30:50.860 should the Chinese or others attack our communications infrastructure and networks. 0.99
00:30:56.520 Satellite phones are independent of that, Steve.
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00:31:15.660 But it's free with activation.
00:31:17.320 You're paying $95 a month for your service to get up to 150 minutes.
00:31:21.940 But, Steve, I want to bring back something that happened just last week, of course,
00:31:24.620 the tragedy in Minneapolis with another two kids killed senselessly.
00:31:29.460 And just that is a reminder that we need to make sure we're protecting our kids when they go off to
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00:32:00.360 should they be in such a terrible situation.
00:32:03.080 And we all hope and pray you're not in that situation.
00:32:05.580 But these days, you just don't know.
00:32:07.180 There are too many of these shootings.
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00:32:14.780 or give your kids a fighting chance when you send them off to school.
00:32:18.180 Steve, we're all buying backpacks for our kids anyway.
00:32:20.780 They cost two, three, four, $500 or more, many of them.
00:32:23.600 But none of those protect you against ammunition.
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00:32:40.260 But, Steve, I think this is about the only thing that can give you peace of mind
00:32:43.180 when you send your kids off to school.
00:32:45.060 What about, I want to go before we let you bounce, with the sat phone itself
00:32:50.820 and your concerns about the grid, your concerns about telecom happening,
00:32:56.980 the Chinese and other bad actors working with them, the North Koreans. 0.99
00:33:01.140 Do you think this is a bigger concern today than it was even a couple of years ago?
00:33:07.300 Yeah, I do.
00:33:07.980 Because, look, we've seen numerous examples of equipment,
00:33:10.680 whether it's equipment that operates in our ports or operates on cell towers
00:33:16.540 or on the electric power grid.
00:33:20.420 These components and these machines coming out of China are pre-built.
00:33:24.000 They're building in back doors so the CCP can get access to them
00:33:27.800 once they're installed here.
00:33:29.160 And this isn't conspiracy stuff.
00:33:30.860 This is fact.
00:33:32.500 We've had to send back numerous pieces of machinery and equipment to China
00:33:36.220 because there were back doors in it that would allow the CCP to control
00:33:41.120 or at least to view and watch what these machines are doing over here.
00:33:44.580 And we also know for a fact that the Chinese and others have put viruses 1.00
00:33:49.060 into our communications networks and other infrastructure networks
00:33:53.040 that can be operated to basically kill platforms.
00:33:57.900 You know, we've seen these kind of outages all around the world.
00:34:00.600 We saw them earlier this year in Spain and Portugal
00:34:03.060 where they just took out the power grid.
00:34:04.560 And whilst, you know, what they were saying over there was that
00:34:08.560 this was just an error that was caused by an overload in the power grid,
00:34:12.940 you know, what many people were saying quite rightly
00:34:14.980 is that that error would be very unlikely.
00:34:17.100 It was much more likely that that was a cyber attack.
00:34:19.840 And so if the Chinese or others can do that,
00:34:22.560 and that would leave everyone without a working cell phone
00:34:25.140 and that would leave everyone without communications.
00:34:27.780 But if you have a satellite phone, you know,
00:34:30.000 you would still be able to stay in touch, Steve.
00:34:31.940 And that's why the U.S. military and first responders
00:34:34.560 use the exact same equipment as that we're giving away for free today.
00:34:38.900 Can you, one more time, where do people go,
00:34:41.460 who they talk to when they get there?
00:34:43.780 Just, they can call 941-841-0844.
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00:35:03.960 no matter what the Chinese or these other guys are up to.
00:35:07.820 Thank you, brother.
00:35:08.560 Appreciate you coming on.
00:35:10.380 Thanks, Steve.
00:35:12.200 Do we have any more?
00:35:13.880 Who's Bobby Kennedy getting grilled by now?
00:35:16.840 The Republicans have been pretty good about letting him.
00:35:19.660 I know one.
00:35:20.980 Yeah, she's.
00:35:23.400 Oh, she's.
00:35:24.380 Okay, let's go.
00:35:25.400 Did we miss Pocahontas? 1.00
00:35:27.700 No.
00:35:29.420 Hopefully Charlie Kirk will pick it up.
00:35:31.040 If not, Grace and Mo will stream it.
00:35:33.740 And Grace and Mo are in Korea right now
00:35:36.960 for the fantastic Korean event put on by Mina Kim.
00:35:41.000 We want to show support of that.
00:35:42.220 We've got people on the road.
00:35:43.220 And, of course, our own Natalie Winters is in Asia
00:35:46.180 doing reporting over there.
00:35:47.300 So we've got a lot going on as the war room staff goes out.
00:35:54.540 Also, I think Mo's going to be in the United Kingdom
00:35:56.560 for the Tommy Robinson event.
00:35:58.760 Trying to get Natalie over there, too,
00:36:00.380 if she's finished with Asia.
00:36:01.820 So it's a lot going on.
00:36:02.720 Charlie Kirk's going to follow us.
00:36:04.000 Poso.
00:36:04.360 And Poso was spectacular yesterday.
00:36:07.380 In my speech to the Polish folks,
00:36:11.700 I did, you know, Poso has taught me so much.
00:36:14.480 Poso has taught me so much.
00:36:15.540 I kind of drafted off that.
00:36:16.760 He followed me in the speech,
00:36:17.840 and I think I took some of the best lines.
00:36:20.020 But, Jack, thanks, brother.
00:36:21.700 You were fantastic.
00:36:23.780 Charlie Kirk, Jack Posovic, Steve Gruber,
00:36:27.380 Eric Bolling back at 5 p.m.
00:36:30.080 I'm giving a speech late this afternoon.
00:36:32.640 I should be back in time for the 5. 0.99
00:36:35.080 But if not, Dave Bratt will be here.
00:36:38.460 And if I'm not here this afternoon for this,
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00:36:41.980 I'll be back tomorrow morning.
00:36:43.040 We've got a lot going on in Washington, D.C.
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