Episode 4755： Chinese Organ Harvesting And Realising The Epstein Files
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Travis Kelsey reflects on his engagement to Taylor Swift. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez demands answers from the star chamber of the Star Chamber, and calls for the release of all documents related to the Epstein scandal.
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Travis Kelsey reflecting on his big engagement to Taylor Swift.
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I think it's the first time we've heard from him.
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The Chiefs tight end who will be on the field this week telling his brother how things have changed since the big announcement 10 days ago.
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Fox has not shown a second, I don't think, of this hearing.
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They were talking about, was it Travis, the football player, tight end of the Chiefs, and was it Tay-Tay, Tata, whatever, Tay-Tay, her engagement.
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That's what's taking place of the star chamber Bobby Kennedy's going through.
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They threw up lie after lie after lie and invective.
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And his great response, hey, yo, you guys have sat here, one or all, you've been here 25, 30 years.
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They don't want to have to answer for anything.
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Viva Fry, I want to go back to the beginning because we showed it nonstop yesterday.
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You are, I want, you support releasing all the documents, getting full disclosure.
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What did you not like then about yesterday, sir?
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What it ended up looking like is that this has been co-opted and hijacked in the exact same way the Me Too movement was co-opted and hijacked to be weaponized for political purposes and to go after anybody who was an ideological adversary.
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When you had the women out there saying, we know the names, we are standing up for justice so that no victims ever get victimized again in the future, protect the children, but we're not going to mention any names, period.
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And that other woman who, you know, was talking about her modeling career and how she ended up on Epstein's Island to witness things, I don't know that she was actually a victim of Epstein's sexual abuses, saying, you know, we're going to make our own list and we're going to keep it confidential.
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I mean, it looked cheap and tawdry and it looked like they had co-opted Massey's righteous initial motion or the House resolution to disclose the documents and are co-opting it to bastardize it for their own whatever purposes.
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Making a list of not just abusers, but anyone in Epstein's orbit, keeping it confidential for the victims, that sounds like extortion.
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And so in as much as Bondi has blown this Epstein document release, they've embarrassed some of the alternative media that support Trump.
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Massey puts forward a decent, you know, bipartisan with Ro Khanna support and it gets co-opted by what we saw yesterday.
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It had nothing to do with disclosure, justice and naming names.
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It had to do with self-promotion and promising things for the future that they have in their hands right now.
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Do you think, are they, you're a lawyer, are there lawyers telling them some reason that they could not at least give some of the names?
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I mean, many times they talked and they also, I think, raised the stakes because I don't remember this coming out in the Maxwell trial.
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But a couple of victims said they were raped and then passed around or trafficked to be raped some more by powerful people in politics, finance, business and entertainment.
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Was it some, and this is obviously stuff that's over 20 years old, is would any of lawyer have told them you can't say the names?
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I mean, why weren't they able to say, is there some restriction they had to come forward, at least with a couple of the names yesterday, to let people know that this was something more than just Maxwell and Epstein?
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You know, a number of people float a number of reasons why.
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They can't name them because they live in fear.
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And so to that argument, I say, if you're living in fear of what your abusers might do to you, you don't come out on a platform and say, I'm going to name you in the future.
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Or you sit there and wait and wait for me to name you.
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Have they signed NDAs because they might have gotten compensated for their abuse and therefore contractually cannot disclose the names?
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And then, you know, I say possibly, but even then, then it sort of does taint their pursuit of justice.
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That if they've received compensation and signed NDAs and now they say, well, we want you to release the names because we already got compensated for what we claim to have happened to us in the past.
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If they say they might get sued for defamation, you're dealing, people came out yesterday and said, Virginia Gouffre is a national hero for having done, did what she did.
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And we're not going to do it because we're afraid of getting sued for naming the people who we claim sexually abused us.
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I have never been in that position, so I don't know what is a normal human response.
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I won't judge it, but it doesn't do wonders to promote this purportedly bipartisan bill, which now looks like a total gong show.
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And so if I'm Thomas Massey, I'm irritated having seen what I saw yesterday because it is not going to garner any more support for what I think should have been a pretty straightforward thing to do.
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Release the documents in as much as you can without breaking the law.
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Don't release 30 some odd thousand pages individually scanned, making it unsearchable, highly redacted so the liars on Twitter can say, I wonder why this entire passage is redacted because it must have Trump's name in it.
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When the victims yesterday come out and say Trump was supportive, you know, back in the day, we never allege that he's done anything bad.
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Whether or not the release would embarrass people in high places or other countries with which we want to maintain diplomatic relations, it's possible.
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But it doesn't matter because if they don't and they keep bungling this release of the Epstein files, the political ramifications at home are going to be such that the Democrats are going to continue weaponizing it, much like they've done.
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Weaponizing the refusal to follow through on what was not a campaign promise, but a campaign issue that Trump himself brought up and brought to the fore.
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So I don't understand the entire debacle from the get-go.
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The Dershowitz thing yesterday, because we covered it all, and somebody asked a question about Dershowitz and Virginia.
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And I guess she retracted some statements she made about Dershowitz.
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I'm kind of confused about that, but what was amazing is that the people that wanted full disclosure shut down the reporter.
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They said Dershowitz was paying him, and it was untrue, and that didn't happen.
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Because it sounded odd for people that wanted full disclosure to be jumping some guy who's asking a question about,
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did she change her testimony at some point in time and exonerate or attempt to exonerate Dershowitz?
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So the question, as far as I could hear it, I would love to know who the journalist was,
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was asking questions about Virginia Gouffre having made allegations against Dershowitz and retracted them.
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And when people retract statements, they're going to say exoneration,
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or others are going to say intimidation, just depending on your perspective.
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I personally, this is not defending Dershowitz, I don't think Dershowitz is guilty of anything.
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What Dershowitz did mention at one point on another podcast, I think it might have been with,
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I want to say Posobiec, but I might be wrong, is that some people made some false accusations
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because, much like with the Me Too movement, people see dollar signs.
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And it's cynical and it's gross, but it's reality.
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There are legitimate, bona fide victims of Epstein sexual abuse,
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and sexual abuse involving others, because I don't think Ghislaine was trafficking only to Epstein.
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And then there are other opportunistic players who come in and see dollar signs,
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say, I'm going to make some accusations against some high-profile people, and I'll get paid too.
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And so when Dershowitz said, there is a list, I've seen it, it's got names,
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but it's also redacting the names of people who made false accusations, that's a plausible explanation.
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But when a journalist comes out yesterday and starts asking questions,
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what about some of the false statements that were retracted or recanted?
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And then you have these alleged victims rejoicing in the silencing of a journalist
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who's giving them the attention that they claim to so desperately want?
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It just made it all look very cheap, very exploitive, very partisan.
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When you get Gloria Allred appearing out of the blue,
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I mean, it's like saying Candyman three times in the mirror.
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The entire movement has been bastardized, corrupted, and now is being counterproductive.
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She comes up, I'm surprised she still didn't have her Hillary button,
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so I had to deal with her in the 26th campaign.
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We had to deal with all her lies and misrepresentations.
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So Pam Bondi has said on Fox that there was a list that was on her desk.
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Dershowitz, I don't want to repeat what Dershowitz said, he said he'd seen a list.
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Isn't that one of the fundamental questions people have?
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I mean, this is some of the just basic fundamental questions
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that folks that want to have full disclosure on this have.
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I mean, can you give, have people before said there's actually a list?
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And if they say it, if Dershowitz and Pam Bondi say it,
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Because one's the Attorney General of the United States,
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the other is one of the most prominent constitutional lawyers around,
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There is the expression you don't attribute to malice,
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When it comes to Pam Bondi, I had no opinion of her when she was appointed.
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I had no opinion of her, but performance has been what it has been.
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You can't say certain things in a certain position
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and then just walk it back and pretend like it never happened.
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Even her explanation for what she says she intended to mean
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when she said there's a list on my desk, yada, yada,
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which has now been contradicted by the actual evidence.
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It compromises the credibility of that department of the administration,
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Is there a list, like a checklist, a to-do list?
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No, but there were unnamed, unindicted co-conspirators
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who were given blanket pardons under the 2008 plea deal.
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I mean, what's going to be the rationale to say
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we're not going to release the names of the unindicted co-conspirators
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who got effectively a non-prosecution agreement
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hey, here's my favorite clients for sexual abuse.
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But everybody knows colloquially what we're talking about.
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People in the orbit, people who participated in it,
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And more secrecy just allows this to be used against Trump
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the way we saw with that stupid, rubbish story of a letter,
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the boobies with the signature of Donald Trump.
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The longer it goes on, the more it gets used against Trump.
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Wall Street Journal, just hang her for one second.
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We've got Jan, Epoch Times, on deck in the war room.
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MSNBC for the rest of the night was nothing but Epstein
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with a little Bobby Kennedy thrown in, firing the CDC.
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So Viva, where do people go to kind of have your clear-headed
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Well, I'm live daily on Rumble at three o'clock.
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And if you put in Viva Fry in the search engine,
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you'll, you'll, you'll find me on the internet.
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I'm sort of, seem to be pissing off everybody these days
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I'm pissing off the Massey side by sort of, you know,
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saying that yesterday didn't go well for Massey.
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And people are accusing me of not being sensitive
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you should be pissed because that is compromising
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But what you're saying, correct me if I'm wrong,
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and it gives them time too to get their list together
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You would think in doing that very dramatic, you know, event,
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which Gloria Allred and some of the lawyers are running.
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You would assume to have the mass, the maximum impact,
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to let people know that it's somebody more than Maxwell
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to say how, you know, Epstein got his financing.
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that you're going to use for whatever the problem is.
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which obviously the Republicans and President Trump
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don't you think that they can, it'll take them longer,
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but don't you think they can get to the same place?
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and the civil war that the Massey discharge petition
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But there's progress now only after the pressure
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when they were being told to let the Epstein story go.
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Like fun, we're going to let the Epstein story go.
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You're telling me Jake-a-lick is the Polish name.
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Yesterday was a glorious day for Poland in America.
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And I mean, I do think you actually nailed it in the speech.
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That's how I learned about the horrors of that system from the beginning.
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And Poles, you know, have that same zest for freedom,
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And as another gentleman pointed out the other day,
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Poland also had the first democratic constitution in Europe, right?
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So the Poland and America have a lot in common.
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We think it's the best broadsheet in the world.
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and to the world at large of the Chinese Communist Party.
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So this was the headline in today's Financial Times.
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And it's obviously geopolitically we're at an inflection point in world history, right?
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And this was brought about by many people in the West,
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leaders in the West, business leaders, finance leaders, corporate leaders,
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kicking the can down the road and being in business with the Chinese Communist Party.
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I want to break it down with some experts like yourself
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However, I have you on here for something very specific.
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The most important thing that came out of this military parade
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and they had a conference call with taking down the dollar.
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and you particularly had Mini-Me over at North Korea,
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actually seeing a military parade with the Chinese Communist Party
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He's got the moolahs up there, the people that run Persia, all of them.
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The most important thing that happened, I believe, the buried lead,
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was the sidebar conversation that was caught on a hot mic between Putin and Xi.
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Remember, Putin and Xi are two of the three most powerful people in the world,
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who's down here at the White House at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
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And Xi and Putin are talking about transhumanism.
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They're talking about how they have technology now coming from, wait for it,
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organ harvesting, who Jan's the world's expert on this, right,
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that they can get new organs, fresh organs from living human beings
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and that they believe they themselves are on the cusp of living to 150 years old
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and that others that will come shortly thereafter will have total immortality.
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Is this, after all the abuse, Falun Gong and Epoch Times,
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and you got for years and years and years about this was some fantasy,
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this another conspiracy theory, these people are nutcases,
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you can't trust them, you've got to trust the CCP.
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Do you feel a little bit of relief that the truth has come out from the demon's own lips, sir?
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This is almost a, I mean, it's the most serious experience
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because it, I mean, it's kind of the last thing I would expect.
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This is the dark secret that the Chinese Communist Party never, ever wants to admit to,
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It's been something that's been happening at scale for at least 25 years.
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It's something they've never had a credible response to.
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It's always just been denial and attack the messenger.
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So to hear it actually, you know, a discussion of continuous,
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continually transplanting organs to achieve immortality,
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perhaps 150 years, Xi Jinping responds to Vladimir Putin.
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I mean, it's very clear what they're talking about.
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And, you know, the evidence around this with the China Tribunal and, again, 25 years of work
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that's been basically done, or at least 20 years of work that's been done to figure this out,
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because that's when we realized it was real, is, I think, incontrovertible at this point.
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They've come together because, hey, I've been having conversations with people and saying,
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don't think they're not offering some people that come on their side and build this new axis,
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not just to control the range and landmass, but the entire world for world domination.
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Don't think they're not offering these guys, hey, look, we can get you to 125 right now
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and keep you healthy and, you know, keep you sexually active and, you know,
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with a little spring in your step and an active ruler.
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When you and I used to talk about that, I said, hey, you know,
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the top 10 industries that they want to dominate by the year 2025, what year are we in?
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The top five were advanced chip design, quantum computing, artificial general intelligence,
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artificial intelligence, regenerative robotics, and wait for it, CRISPR and biotechnologies.
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That is the five you need to converge to get to the singularity.
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These folks are very strategic and they're very focused.
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The geopolitical impact of what they were saying is more, folks,
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than the important than the geopolitical impact of this military.
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Because it implies the top types of advanced technologies they are working on
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in the darkest, secret, most place of the Chinese Communist Party in the KGB.
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Steve, first of all, let me just clarify exactly what we're talking about for the uninitiated.
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We're talking about unlimited, at-scale, on-demand killing of prisoners of conscience
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for their organs for the Chinese elites and wealthy transplant tourists.
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That's the shortest way to summarize what's happening.
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And that this has happened at such a scale, we're talking, by best estimates, 60,000 to 100,000
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transplants a year, okay, since at least the mid-2000s.
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But more importantly, if you're someone that believes that there is no God, that there is
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no connection to the divine, that there's no moral guardrails at all, what it means is life.
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And that is exactly what they're talking about.
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There was an example of a Chinese official that basically had multiple, this was actually
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disclosed by someone else that was sort of, you know, kind of doing a eulogy for them,
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who had had, during COVID, multiple organs replaced.
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And, you know, it kind of, in many of these leaders right now that I was looking at the
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average, I think 88 is the average age now that these leaders have, a lot much higher
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than the general population and even other parts of the world.
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So I think they're kind of sending a message here.
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And they're sending a message, we're doing the kind of work that, you know, you weren't
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allowed to do out there for those of you that might be interested.
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And in a sense, for people that don't believe there's accountability in heaven or something
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of this nature, that could be very attractive because, you know, that extends one's life.
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And, you know, at the moment, there's a limit on that.
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So I think the geopolitical implications, as you correctly say, are absolutely massive.
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And in a way, I almost wonder whether this hot mic moment, you know, nothing ever happens
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at the Chinese Communist Party that isn't selected, right?
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And I'm almost wondering if this hot mic moment wasn't a kind of a message, a coded message
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I'm not a, you know, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but they are really, really meticulous about
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No, they have in the, what, the 20 years of his reign or rule or the 15 years and everything.
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So, no, I don't believe for a second it was just caught on where they want the word out.
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Jan, you've done amazing work, the Epoch Times.
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And so, folks that have not been following this for years, they were criticized as cranks,
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And now, from the demons' own mouths, you've heard exactly what they're doing.
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Not what they're planning on doing, what they're doing and what they're offering for, at least
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today, potential immortality and at least extending human life to 120 to 150 years old.
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And this is why this is so dark and has to be, quite frankly, shut down.
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Jan, where do people go for your reporting, Epoch Times, all your social media, all of it, sir?
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You can also look up my YouTube channel, which seems to be less censored these days.
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The other thing, and this is part of the surreal experience.
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I just signed a contract with Skyhorse to write a book on exactly this issue.
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But it's basically using this horrible organ harvesting industry as a lens to understand
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And so it's going to be coming out in February.
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And it's almost like, in that sense, this hot mic was a gift because guess where the book
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And thank God you and the guys at the Epoch Times were on watch here.
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Bobby Kennedy, I think, gave better than he got, but you see how Big Pharma lines up on
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Maybe Charlie Kirk will pick up some of it in the next hour.
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In fact, if we get another one of these demon Democrats up there, let's go to it live.
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You always come in with some fantastic offers for the War Room Posse.
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They are jacked up this morning because Bobby Kennedy, they've been trying to tear Bobby
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Kennedy apart in process of trying to fire him as Secretary of HHS, sir.
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Well, Steve, we've got a lot to be concerned about this week.
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You're reminded there about what the Chinese are doing, their show for us yesterday with
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And that is, to me, just a reminder that we as Americans need to be prepared for anything
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The number one way to do that is to make sure that you have communications that will work
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should the Chinese or others attack our communications infrastructure and networks.
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Satellite phones are independent of that, Steve.
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As you know, they work regardless of whether the power is up or whether the telecommunications
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And at sat123.com, you can still get a free satellite phone with activation.
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That phone will cost you $1,000 to $2,000 anywhere else in the world.
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You're paying $95 a month for your service to get up to 150 minutes.
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But, Steve, I want to bring back something that happened just last week, of course,
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the tragedy in Minneapolis with another two kids killed senselessly.
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And just that is a reminder that we need to make sure we're protecting our kids when they go off to
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So this week, with the free satellite phone, we have a limited offer of the free
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Steve, this bulletproof backpack weighs just two pounds.
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But it has a Kevlar panel in it that will stop bullets from hitting people.
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And this is something we developed in conjunction with our friends in special operations
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and law enforcement in California to give kids a fighting chance
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And we all hope and pray you're not in that situation.
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And there's too many crazy people out there with guns.
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And so this backpack was developed to give you a fighting chance
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or give your kids a fighting chance when you send them off to school.
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Steve, we're all buying backpacks for our kids anyway.
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They cost two, three, four, $500 or more, many of them.
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But none of those protect you against ammunition.
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And again, you can get this at sat123.com free with activation with a free sat phone.
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But, Steve, I think this is about the only thing that can give you peace of mind
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What about, I want to go before we let you bounce, with the sat phone itself
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and your concerns about the grid, your concerns about telecom happening,
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the Chinese and other bad actors working with them, the North Koreans.
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Do you think this is a bigger concern today than it was even a couple of years ago?
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Because, look, we've seen numerous examples of equipment,
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whether it's equipment that operates in our ports or operates on cell towers
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These components and these machines coming out of China are pre-built.
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They're building in back doors so the CCP can get access to them
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We've had to send back numerous pieces of machinery and equipment to China
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because there were back doors in it that would allow the CCP to control
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or at least to view and watch what these machines are doing over here.
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And we also know for a fact that the Chinese and others have put viruses
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into our communications networks and other infrastructure networks
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that can be operated to basically kill platforms.
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You know, we've seen these kind of outages all around the world.
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We saw them earlier this year in Spain and Portugal
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And whilst, you know, what they were saying over there was that
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this was just an error that was caused by an overload in the power grid,
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you know, what many people were saying quite rightly
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It was much more likely that that was a cyber attack.
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and that would leave everyone without a working cell phone
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and that would leave everyone without communications.
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you would still be able to stay in touch, Steve.
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And that's why the U.S. military and first responders
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use the exact same equipment as that we're giving away for free today.
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And you can make sure that you are safe and your kids can be safe
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and that you will always be able to stay in touch,
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no matter what the Chinese or these other guys are up to.
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The Republicans have been pretty good about letting him.
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for the fantastic Korean event put on by Mina Kim.
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And, of course, our own Natalie Winters is in Asia
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So we've got a lot going on as the war room staff goes out.
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