Bannon's War Room - September 04, 2025


Episode 4756: Meltdown At The Kennedy Hearing; Cuts To Defense Fund


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

165.15047

Word Count

8,956

Sentence Count

732

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

4


Summary

Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and Sen. John Kennedy (D-Massachusetts) spar over the controversial issue of whether or not to recommend new vaccines for infants and toddlers with RSV and other respiratory viruses like RSV.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The American Academy of Pediatrics has warned that the committee is being politicized at the
00:00:07.500 expense of children's health. American Academy of Pediatrics, you think they're lying too?
00:00:15.420 I think the American Academy of Pediatrics is gravely conflicted. Their biggest contributors
00:00:24.400 are the four largest vaccine makers. They run a journal, Pediatrics, which they make a lot of
00:00:30.180 money on that is completely dependent on pharmaceutical companies. So I don't think
00:00:34.260 I wouldn't put a big stake in what they say that benefits pharmaceutical interests.
00:00:42.040 Senator, I didn't politicize ACIP. I depoliticized it. Congress has been investigating ACIP.
00:00:48.240 But all over the country, Mr. Secretary, scientists and doctors are saying otherwise.
00:00:54.400 They're all wrong, too. They're all lying, according to you.
00:00:57.260 The scientists and doctors are supporting me all over the country.
00:01:00.780 There is division on opinion.
00:01:02.960 I don't get letters from thousands of people who are not political saying that this set of changes
00:01:10.480 is going to damage American health care and particularly these health care agencies for
00:01:15.860 decades to come. I don't get any letters from people saying, hey, this is going to make a big difference forever.
00:01:21.320 Maybe you're listening to a selective group of people.
00:01:23.960 So you get me something.
00:01:25.660 And I will tell you what, Senator. I will put my mailbag against your mailbag any day of the week.
00:01:33.640 I got 30 seconds. Dangerous respiratory viruses like RSV are on the agenda for the next advisory meeting.
00:01:43.340 Countless parents have been awakened in the dead of night by a wheezing kid gasping for air,
00:01:48.400 forced to rush their little one to the ER. There's no worse heart-wrenching fear.
00:01:52.900 The RSV vaccine offers these kids protection against the worst effects of the virus.
00:01:58.480 But now it looks like you're on a crusade to make infants and babies more vulnerable to the terrible illness.
00:02:05.320 That's what we're doing with the COVID changes.
00:02:08.240 And please make your answer brief, Mr. Secretary.
00:02:12.660 I've said that.
00:02:14.060 The position is indefensible. I think it's possible.
00:02:16.120 Congress has been investigating that committee for 23 years because it is pervaded with conflicts of interest.
00:02:24.620 What we did is we got rid of the conflicts of interest.
00:02:28.240 We depoliticized it and put great scientists on it from a very diverse group of very, very pro-vaccine.
00:02:36.700 You tell America that all adults and all children over six months of age are eligible to get a COVID booster at their local pharmacy today.
00:02:48.280 Anybody can get the booster.
00:02:50.720 I'm sorry?
00:02:51.360 Anybody can get it.
00:02:52.500 Anybody. So you're saying that is now the official rule of HHS, anybody is eligible to get a booster by just walking into the pharmacy.
00:03:02.580 It's not recommended for healthy people.
00:03:04.860 No, no. If you don't recommend, then the consequence of that in many states is that you can't walk into a pharmacy and get one.
00:03:14.140 It means insurance companies don't have to cover the $200 or so cost.
00:03:19.060 As Senator Dr. Cassidy said, you are effectively denying people vaccines.
00:03:25.360 We're not going to recommend a product for which there's no clinical data for that indication.
00:03:30.160 Is that what I should be doing?
00:03:32.080 What you should be doing is honoring your promise that you made when you were looking to get confirmed in this job.
00:03:38.480 You're going like this.
00:03:39.480 That is, you promised that you would not take away vaccines from anyone who wanted them.
00:03:47.120 You just changed the classification of the COVID vaccine.
00:03:51.160 I'm not taking them away from people, Senator.
00:03:53.420 It takes it away if you can't get it from your pharmacist.
00:03:57.320 Well, most Americans are going to be able to get it from their pharmacy for free.
00:04:01.260 Most Americans will be able to get it from their pharmacy for free.
00:04:05.460 The question is, everyone who wants it, that was your promise, Mr. Kennedy, not mine.
00:04:10.300 I never promised that I was going to recommend products with which there is no indication.
00:04:15.120 When you said...
00:04:16.480 And I know you've taken $855,000 from pharmaceutical companies, Senator.
00:04:22.320 Did you hold up a big sign saying that you were lying when you said that?
00:04:26.580 Because you are the one who said you would not take them away.
00:04:31.300 Now, Senator...
00:04:32.160 I'm not taking them away from anybody.
00:04:33.660 Secretary...
00:04:34.420 You want me to indicate a product for which there is no clinical data?
00:04:40.140 Senator...
00:04:40.460 Is that what you want?
00:04:41.520 Secretary Kennedy, you said you wouldn't, and now you did.
00:04:45.020 I'm not taking them away.
00:04:46.520 Everybody can get access to them.
00:04:48.560 No, they can't walk into a pharmacy the way they could last month and get access to a vaccine.
00:04:55.000 It depends on the state.
00:04:56.580 It depends on the state.
00:04:58.460 A year ago...
00:04:59.120 But they can still get it.
00:05:00.760 Everybody can get it.
00:05:01.820 A month ago, it did not get it.
00:05:02.620 Everybody can get it, Senator.
00:05:04.460 So, look, let's move on.
00:05:06.140 You clearly are taking away vaccines.
00:05:08.980 Do you believe COVID-19 was politicized?
00:05:13.120 Yeah, the whole process was politicized.
00:05:15.720 Senator, I mean, we were lied to about everything.
00:05:20.220 We were lied to about natural immunity.
00:05:24.180 We were lied to about...
00:05:25.500 You know, we were told again and again the vaccines would prevent transmission.
00:05:28.760 They'd prevent infection.
00:05:29.920 It wasn't true.
00:05:31.460 They knew it from the start.
00:05:32.620 It wasn't true because that's what the animal studies and the clinical trials showed.
00:05:37.440 We were told that there was science behind cloth masks.
00:05:40.340 The CDC allowed the teachers' union to write the order closing our schools, which hurt working
00:05:51.220 people all over the country, and then pretend it was science-based.
00:05:55.020 All of these issues, and then I can show you, like, for example, Chairman Wyden was talking
00:06:01.520 about me politicizing ACIP, but during COVID, probably the most famous scientist on ACIP was
00:06:09.620 Martin Kulder from Harvard, the great, world-renowned epidemiologist and vaccinologist, and he
00:06:16.820 criticized the COVID booster mandates.
00:06:20.660 They ejected him from COVID because he wasn't in the orthodoxy.
00:06:24.580 The two biggest health officials at FDA during COVID, Dr. Gruber and Dr. Krells, criticized
00:06:32.940 the Biden mandates, vaccine mandates.
00:06:35.700 You know, President Biden said in August, I would never take that vaccine, the Trump vaccine.
00:06:40.920 And he came in, he mandated it, and then he fired the two top health officials at FDA who
00:06:46.260 said, hey, this thing has not been properly tested.
00:06:49.460 So the whole process was politicized, and even today...
00:06:52.800 So let me...
00:06:53.640 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:07:01.140 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:07:06.340 Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:07:10.620 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:07:12.520 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:07:13.960 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:07:16.640 It's going to happen.
00:07:17.900 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:07:21.320 MAGA media.
00:07:22.220 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:07:28.020 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:07:31.840 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:07:38.140 War Room.
00:07:39.040 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:07:41.460 All right, everybody.
00:07:48.800 Dave Brant in the War Room for the great Stephen K. Bannon.
00:07:52.460 Stephen K. Bannon's downtown giving a stem winder to Nat Khan.
00:07:57.160 Can't wait to see the headlines coming out of that.
00:07:59.380 He shared a few lines with me earlier today.
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00:08:04.320 I was going to be on the show a couple of days ago, but news events overtook things.
00:08:08.460 I just want to point everyone's attention.
00:08:10.520 I know you probably don't follow the New York Times every day, but a couple of interesting articles, back-to-back opinion pieces.
00:08:15.980 New York Times, Cass Sunstein, you know, Obama fame and all that.
00:08:19.720 And then the next day, another one from one of the big, more liberal writers, but they're making a rapprochement back to classical liberalism, right?
00:08:29.540 To be open, tolerant conversations, rational discourse, openness.
00:08:37.340 Whenever you hear the term openness, right, it's pervaded the university campuses in our country.
00:08:42.660 I've worked on the campuses for the last 30 or 40 years.
00:08:45.580 And it sounds neat until you see what the liberal project results in.
00:08:51.400 And for anybody who wants a remedy or a quick study on that, read Alan Bloom, right, University of Chicago, great philosopher, Closing the American Minds.
00:09:00.400 It's a great book on he blisters the concept of openness, which came to us from a philosopher named Karl Popper, who had a brain, but now it's gone into Soros land.
00:09:12.000 So when you see Soros and the folks doing openness and pushing openness, you've got to ask, in juxtaposition to what?
00:09:18.720 And it's in juxtaposition to just the American classical setup of inalienable rights under law.
00:09:25.820 But the reason I bring it up right now is you just saw a blistering leftist assault on RFK Jr.
00:09:34.000 You know, I think if anybody sees that, their heart just goes out to them.
00:09:38.520 It was so bad.
00:09:40.260 And then the Democrats are bad enough.
00:09:41.960 All political views are my own.
00:09:43.540 But then our guy, Republican Dr. Cassidy, says, I'm just going to approach this as a medical doctor.
00:09:49.940 We're just going to do science.
00:09:52.020 No politics here.
00:09:54.640 And he goes into just a tirade.
00:09:57.080 I mean, I think he's got, you know, Trump derangement syndrome or something.
00:10:00.300 Folks, Louisiana, you ought to give your senator a call.
00:10:02.960 That was not one scientific thing about his discourse.
00:10:08.140 He didn't go after RFK on one testable proposition, just a bunch of narrative gobbledygook.
00:10:14.620 So to help us decipher this mess, we have brought in the real doctor, Dr. Naomi Wolf.
00:10:21.100 Doctor, thanks for being with us on The War Room.
00:10:23.460 Great to have you.
00:10:24.900 And why don't you just launch and give us your view?
00:10:27.480 You're more skilled than I am in this realm of medicine to spend your life's work.
00:10:32.580 So have at it.
00:10:33.520 Thanks for being with us, doctor.
00:10:35.460 Well, thank you so much for having me.
00:10:36.980 It's great to see you again and great to be with the Posse again, of course.
00:10:42.620 I'm not a medical doctor, just full disclosure.
00:10:45.140 I have a DPhil in literature.
00:10:47.420 But I did have the incredible experience of helping to oversee this project that Steve Bannon launched and that the Posse brought to fruition, which did oversee 3,500 medical doctors and scientists in reading through the 3,500 documents released under court order by Pfizer.
00:11:10.520 So I do know a lot from overseeing these 105 reports about what the fight was about that you just showed clips from.
00:11:21.040 So I will launch in.
00:11:23.280 It's, you know, I've been critical of RFK Jr. in the recent past because I wanted him to move faster and more directly on pulling, especially the COVID vaccine, off the market.
00:11:34.820 I mean, that's the one that, due to the work we did on these two books, and the evidence from Pfizer's own internal documentation, there is no way to make the case at this point in history, because the evidence is out there in public, that it's safe and effective.
00:11:51.880 Pfizer concluded a month after rollout that it was neither safe nor effective and it didn't work.
00:11:56.520 More people died or were hospitalized with the vaccine than without.
00:12:00.720 You know, you can't make the case that it prevents transmission, even they don't make the case it prevents transmission.
00:12:07.680 It doesn't.
00:12:08.400 So all those mandates and don't hug grandma rely, you know, it has catastrophic side effects.
00:12:14.600 We're seeing horrific excess deaths, as the former Black Rock hedge fund manager, Ed Dowd, has magisterially demonstrated with his data analysis.
00:12:23.620 And we're also seeing catastrophic drops in live births, a 13 to 20 percent drop in live births, according to government data sets, especially in the Western world, including in North America.
00:12:36.220 I was just in Europe, and there are a million missing babies in Europe, and we know why this injection causes sterilization or miscarriage or spontaneous abortion in a plethora of ways.
00:12:50.000 So having said all of that, a lot of things are kind of coming to a head that people should know about that preceded this fight in the Senate and all this yelling.
00:13:00.180 One of the things that really changed the chess board is that President Trump tweeted a really interesting tweet, I would say three or four days ago,
00:13:11.680 in which he basically said Pfizer had shown him wonderful data, presumably about how effective and safe this injection was.
00:13:22.480 And the implication was when they were leading up to the release during Operation Warp Speed.
00:13:29.120 And now he's calling on Pfizer to release it to the public.
00:13:32.720 And I think he's saying, did you show me real data, let the public assess it, or did you lie to me?
00:13:39.440 So we really put Pfizer on the spot, and I'll pick up after the break if you'd like me to.
00:13:44.380 That's great.
00:13:45.000 You're a pro.
00:13:45.400 You heard the music coming in.
00:13:46.860 Naomi Wolf.
00:13:48.260 She's great.
00:13:49.520 Yeah, you know, the conversation there, Senator Mark Warner from Virginia, who just irritates me to no end, you know, tried to pin Kennedy as well.
00:13:58.180 We'll get back to this with Naomi, too.
00:14:00.180 But he said, you know, you're ignorant.
00:14:03.740 How many people died from COVID?
00:14:05.660 And Kennedy gave a truthful answer.
00:14:07.680 You know, I think he's just a good guy, right?
00:14:09.960 He's not playing politics.
00:14:11.480 He said, we don't know the number.
00:14:13.540 And then Warner said, so you're admitting on national TV you don't know the number, right?
00:14:17.820 And then he did the same on a couple other things, just getting the sound clip ready to go,
00:14:21.360 that he doesn't know how many people died and then whether the offset of his work has been on net good.
00:14:28.180 But the strongest thing that he said was, you guys, all you senators have been sitting in those chairs for 25 years
00:14:36.820 while our kids have been having very adverse health effects, right?
00:14:41.560 And that's just damning, right?
00:14:43.120 You all have been sitting there for 25 years.
00:14:45.000 You never brought these questions up before.
00:14:46.980 You're bringing them up to me.
00:14:48.140 And everything I'm doing is transparent.
00:14:49.880 It's out there.
00:14:50.480 And I'm going to get back into that after the break with Naomi.
00:14:54.560 This transparency is key.
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00:14:58.300 Stay with us after the break.
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00:16:57.360 Just again, some basic facts.
00:16:58.780 Do you accept the fact that a million Americans died from COVID?
00:17:03.380 I don't know how many died.
00:17:06.040 You're the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
00:17:08.880 You don't have any idea how many Americans died from COVID?
00:17:12.160 I don't think anybody knows that because there was so much data chaos coming out of the CDC.
00:17:20.120 And there was so many perverse incentives.
00:17:22.920 And these are models.
00:17:23.820 You don't know the answer of how many Americans died from COVID.
00:17:27.760 This is the Secretary of Health and Human Services.
00:17:30.000 Do you think the vaccine did anything to prevent additional deaths?
00:17:35.060 Again, I would like to see the data and talk about the data.
00:17:40.220 You have had this job for eight months and you don't know the data about whether the vaccine will save lives?
00:17:45.840 No, and that's the problem is that they didn't have the data.
00:17:48.720 The data by the Biden administration absolutely dismal.
00:17:52.720 So who is politicizing?
00:17:55.180 You're saying the Biden administration politicized all the data?
00:17:58.020 Go back to what Sarah Cantwell just said.
00:18:00.200 Go to the Trump Surgeon General.
00:18:03.500 They fired Dr. Grubber.
00:18:04.940 They fired all the people who questioned the orthodoxy.
00:18:07.900 They fired Dr. Grubber, Dr. Kautz.
00:18:10.020 So, Mr. Chairman, the Secretary of Health and Human Services doesn't know how many Americans died from COVID.
00:18:15.960 All right.
00:18:18.300 War Room, there's your genteel Virginia gentleman.
00:18:22.220 Mark Warner being, you know, just a truth teller.
00:18:25.380 Tell it like it is.
00:18:26.200 With RFK Jr., right, I mean, it is hard when you're up there.
00:18:29.960 I've been in the middle of that thing.
00:18:31.540 It's just a firing line.
00:18:34.260 It's awful when they're all hitting you.
00:18:36.940 But I would ask Warner right back, hey, since you're the genius and you know everything, what's the number?
00:18:41.660 How many died?
00:18:42.400 What's the number?
00:18:43.580 I don't have the number, right?
00:18:44.980 It's not a matter of ignorance.
00:18:46.320 There's no good data.
00:18:47.580 That's the problem.
00:18:48.320 And a lot of it was juiced up or whatever.
00:18:50.280 Naomi, you want to tee off on some of these points from the senators and just bring the war room up to see what is what what is RFK Jr.
00:18:59.420 know?
00:19:00.540 What is to be decided?
00:19:01.760 How good is the process?
00:19:03.460 They're all talking.
00:19:04.220 They want to do science.
00:19:05.180 He says we're going to do platinum science and it's going to be fully transparent.
00:19:09.440 And I believe the guy.
00:19:10.320 I like the guy.
00:19:12.500 He's I mean, I should say up front, he's he's being heroic.
00:19:16.160 I mean, he's he's standing firm, he's standing on science, he's standing on truth.
00:19:21.520 And and what the American people can clearly see again and again in these exchanges is that he is trying to tell our representatives and our senators, you know, what is missing in the science that he inherited and and how ill served.
00:19:38.740 The American people have been in a horrible emergency in which they were lied to continuously, or as he was trying to point out just now, the data were botched or outsourced or, you know, illegally handled, actually, in many cases.
00:19:53.080 And he was about to point out that a lot of the data is modeling, which is just imaginary numbers.
00:19:58.080 But I think what the American people have clearly seen, and I think he did a wonderful job being on offense and sticking, trying to stick to the facts and trying to be heard, even though he was being kind of silenced and shouted at, is the American people have clearly seen that their senators are bought and paid for by big pharma.
00:20:18.380 And, you know, RFK Jr., Secretary Kennedy said that clearly several times to Bernie Sanders and to Elizabeth Warren, and he named numbers and, you know, $850,000 to Elizabeth Warren, and she, you know, tried to speak right over him.
00:20:33.980 And he forced that issue so assertively in such a kind of go on the offense way that Bernie Sanders actually had to say, are you saying, you know, Bernie, he smoked out Bernie Sanders completely.
00:20:46.580 Bernie Sanders said, everyone here has taken money from pharma.
00:20:51.200 We know pharma is corrupt, but they pay all of us.
00:20:53.860 Are you saying that we're all corrupt because we take pharma money?
00:20:57.680 So the American people have clearly seen who's paying for their senators and that the senators are jumping through hoops for their employers, shouting for the, you know, nearly a million dollars or more that they are getting.
00:21:11.640 Seems like annually was a little unclear from the shouting.
00:21:15.300 And that RFK Jr.
00:21:18.480 Quitted himself really admirably in trying to, people watching this have had enough science to know that his answers kept returning to what would make the science solid and thus what would keep them safe.
00:21:32.320 You know, and even when he was saying they fired people who raised questions about the booster.
00:21:36.480 Martin Kulldorff, a world famous epidemiologist, virologist from Harvard, he did right to continue to go back to the science and back to trying to depoliticize it and to make it transparent.
00:21:51.020 Now, he is in some impossible positions because they all want him to just, you know, roll out the COVID injection with no hesitation and recommend it because billions of dollars are at stake with that.
00:22:03.640 And he, to his credit, won't, but he also hasn't completely withdrawn it.
00:22:09.120 So he is in a difficult gray area, a difficult to defend gray area.
00:22:13.160 I mean, everyone's kind of mad at him, right?
00:22:14.740 Our side is mad at him because he hasn't pulled it and their side is mad at him because he, he has, because he is not providing it, you know, with no testing for free.
00:22:26.360 I mean, just as he said, you want me to give you a product that has no safety efficacy data, but I do want to say one more thing.
00:22:34.140 Things are really escalating because what's at stake here isn't just another piece of theater.
00:22:39.220 It's not just yet again, as with the confirmation hearings, as you all recall initially for Senator Kennedy, Secretary Kennedy, sorry.
00:22:46.780 It's not just another, you know, ritual of shouting senators because this time it seems as if President Trump may be moving into alignment with RFK Jr.
00:22:59.720 about this issue or at least raising the right questions at last, which has been a long journey.
00:23:05.320 And I also want to tell people another data point is Pfizer replied to President Trump on their own website this week, just a day or two ago, saying we'll get President Trump the data by the end of the month.
00:23:21.420 And some of it is here on our website.
00:23:23.760 So that's not, that's like a dog ate my homework answer from Pfizer.
00:23:28.000 And the reason this is escalating, and I promise this is the last thing I'll say, is that given that exchange with the leader of the free world and Pfizer, who's paid all of these people that you see yelling at Secretary Kennedy, it's not just, is this a botched product?
00:23:46.920 What's at stake, what's at stake if this moves ahead with President Trump and RFK Jr. finally in alignment on this issue, and President Trump realizing he was lied to by Pfizer, which I'm sure he will not like, it's a massive criminal, it's a massive crime scene.
00:24:04.180 I mean, there, there are crimes upon crimes from fraud, battery, violation of the Nuremberg Code, you know, manslaughter, I mean, criminal offenses, civil offenses, even with the PrEP Act, if the power of the White House gets behind HHS, which hasn't been the case, you know, there have been two camps.
00:24:26.360 So it is a very dangerous moment for the people who took all that money and participated in this crime.
00:24:32.640 Yeah, I'm glad you're there.
00:24:33.800 Hey, we're, our other folks are having technical difficulties, so you go as long as you want, Naomi, but since I have a Renaissance scholar on with me, I fear not only the tremendous corruption and illegality that you just meant, but the discussion in the nation when it comes to truth claims, right?
00:24:52.200 I taught in a history of thought forever, there's no discussion of what truth is anymore, right?
00:24:57.760 And this sounds a little boring, but if you're young people, if you haven't read Plato's Republic, you know, he was in search of the truth, he didn't hit it, but everything else is a footnote, they say, to Plato, right?
00:25:07.840 And on and on and on, and Aristotle tried it.
00:25:09.900 And then recently, we come up to this, this school of thought, this logical positivism, and Karl Popper, and Popper said, you can't ever reach truth either, all you can do is falsify, right?
00:25:22.680 So if you have a hypothesis sitting out there, you can knock it down, but what you have standing there isn't truth.
00:25:29.880 And so, boy, this really makes the mind, you know, it hurts the American soul, I think.
00:25:36.160 People want to believe that people are telling the truth.
00:25:39.100 Milton Friedman in economics wasn't happy with that.
00:25:41.380 He went after it, and he's a genius, and he couldn't figure it out.
00:25:44.500 And so just give us some comments to the American people and the young people, what should inspire them, how they should engage in thought in general,
00:25:52.320 and question these senators who are just hacks with a decent guy like Kennedy sitting there getting assaulted.
00:25:58.800 And the people who are voting for these hacks, you know, we can do better, but Naomi, you fire away.
00:26:06.000 A couple minutes.
00:26:06.860 I mean, I love that you're asking the question.
00:26:09.280 You know, these are the questions we need to ask, especially our generations need to ask these questions to leave the younger generations an intellectual framework that's also a moral framework.
00:26:19.800 You know, that it's not nothing but a giant mess of moral relativism.
00:26:24.000 It's funny, I was just before I got on camera thinking about, for some reason, my linguistics professor at Yale, who spent the whole semester, and this was very fashionable at Yale in the 80s,
00:26:36.420 and this was kind of in the language space, parallel to what you're talking about, it was called post-structuralism.
00:26:45.200 And his basic thesis is that you can't find meaning in language.
00:26:48.280 You can always deconstruct language, you can't know what the author meant, everything is indeterminate, and then you extend that to anthropology.
00:26:56.820 You know, all cultures are equally valid, doesn't matter if someone's a cannibal, that's their cultural practice.
00:27:02.860 You know, and you see this manifesting in Britain, you know, when people who are detained for rape, who come from rape cultures, say, well, this is part of our culture.
00:27:11.280 I, you know, I have no idea why you're detaining me.
00:27:13.840 My point is, you're a thousand percent right.
00:27:17.240 The degradation really began in the 60s in the academy, but, you know, got a lot of momentum from the 80s to the present.
00:27:26.360 And I would say for sure, truth has been, is an unpopular, unfashionable ideal, like nations, like history, like you.
00:27:37.780 And you can say, yeah.
00:27:40.800 Good.
00:27:41.300 Back with Naomi.
00:27:42.140 That was wonderful.
00:27:43.000 Thank you for that, Naomi.
00:27:44.740 And Alan Bloom again, closing the American mind.
00:27:47.980 He's got some funny, sarcastic tongue-in-cheek.
00:27:50.820 You've got to get deep in the weeds.
00:27:52.520 But, you know, the great Ivy League schools, they sent out the anthropologists and sociologists 100 years ago out to find these, you know, Rousseauian noble savages.
00:28:03.280 These people are betters, are moral betters, because they're simpler.
00:28:05.980 And instead, what they found is not-so-noble savages, and they came back and reported, didn't I go along with the liberals?
00:28:13.780 And the liberals are good.
00:28:15.060 The leftists, we've got a problem.
00:28:16.640 Back with Naomi Wolf in a minute to discuss the meaning of all things.
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00:29:45.680 All right, everybody.
00:29:46.820 Dave Bratt in the War Room, sitting in for the great Stephen K. Bannon with Naomi Wolf.
00:29:51.340 I want to go into a little bit of the topic of the instability we're going to face economically going up.
00:29:57.580 You know, my favorite chart, it comes from Robert Gordon.
00:30:01.120 Long run, trend productivity going down for the past 70 years.
00:30:06.420 Trump's doing everything he can to turn that around, bringing capital in.
00:30:09.360 It's all good.
00:30:09.880 We're going to have a little instability in the short run, probably.
00:30:13.540 He's doing everything right.
00:30:15.420 We've got major good moves.
00:30:17.300 The rest of the show is going to be about all that.
00:30:19.560 But we're at $37 trillion in debt right now.
00:30:22.840 CBO, Congressional Budget Office, has us $2 trillion deficits for the next 10 years.
00:30:27.320 So that's $20 trillion extra debt in the next 10.
00:30:31.380 So $37 and $20 is $57 trillion in debt.
00:30:35.680 That's not sustainable.
00:30:37.100 The only good news is that England is going to be the first mover.
00:30:41.220 They're going to plunge first, right?
00:30:42.460 England, France, Germany, they're at 0% growth right now.
00:30:46.900 So they're going to be a marker, and they're going to be a warning sign.
00:30:50.160 And so in these times, and I just have to throw in, I always forget sometimes to make
00:30:55.780 the most basic point.
00:30:57.180 The Federal Reserve Bank is accommodating, right?
00:31:01.260 There's this debate on these little moves that the Federal Reserve makes.
00:31:04.060 They're accommodating $2 trillion deficits every year without question.
00:31:08.080 The Congress never asks them, why are you accommodating?
00:31:11.080 You're supposed to be in charge of the economy.
00:31:13.420 You do all this other projects under the unemployment moniker, but you're not managing the economy
00:31:19.820 when it comes to putting $7 trillion into our federal government, right?
00:31:25.240 Unproductive, $7 trillion.
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00:32:26.060 Now back, Naomi Wolf.
00:32:27.260 Dr. Naomi Wolf has been with us doing a super job surveying the news today with RFK Jr.
00:32:34.260 Naomi, how do people reach you?
00:32:36.520 Name a book or two you might recommend to the young people of the country to get their heads
00:32:40.540 on straight.
00:32:41.480 There you go.
00:32:42.640 That's a good one.
00:32:43.820 That's for advanced readers.
00:32:45.180 I just wanted to mention this one because we brought it yesterday to the European Parliament
00:32:52.880 and presented this information at the European Parliament.
00:32:56.380 And in fact, we were censored in Europe.
00:32:59.800 So I do want to ask everyone to go to that presentation and hand share it with friends in
00:33:05.960 Europe because they can't listen to it.
00:33:09.040 Again, it's Steve Bannon's book, An Imprint, and the Posse supported it.
00:33:13.740 So that's very important.
00:33:15.600 Also, another amazing thing people can do is go over to legisector.com, which is our
00:33:20.300 new digital product that lets you share and learn about live legislation affecting your
00:33:27.080 industry or your sector or your issue.
00:33:30.060 And then finally, you can follow me on at Naomi R. Wolf on X and on Getter and over on Substack.
00:33:40.600 My Substack is called Outspoke.
00:33:42.100 Very good.
00:33:44.000 Awesome.
00:33:44.420 Thanks, Naomi.
00:33:45.080 Thanks for all you do.
00:33:46.060 Keep it up.
00:33:46.520 Thanks for having me.
00:33:47.140 Thank you so much.
00:33:47.960 Take care.
00:33:49.340 You bet.
00:33:49.960 All right.
00:33:50.480 David Walsh is with us.
00:33:52.200 Energy news breaking big time.
00:33:56.320 Secretary of Energy says his main concern is electricity prices for the average homeowner.
00:34:04.000 And so, you know, AI, artificial intelligence, huge energy drain.
00:34:10.140 There's MIT professors that say, yeah, maybe that's not it.
00:34:12.720 There's a lag on that kind of thing.
00:34:14.600 So we got the expert coming in.
00:34:16.760 Dave Walsh, what do you make of that story, this electrical shortages?
00:34:20.660 You've been on this for years, why we're having shortages.
00:34:23.960 What's the current state of affairs and how do we get out of it?
00:34:28.900 Well, David, years ago, I had a boss when I was a young man who said,
00:34:32.160 Walsh, you need to stop worrying about this and do something about it.
00:34:35.740 So this is the Secretary of Energy, Chris.
00:34:40.740 Listen, we know you're worried.
00:34:42.220 We don't see you doing much.
00:34:43.380 Here's the issue.
00:34:44.620 Solar power in this country is the thing.
00:34:46.680 We just had Secretary Duffy cancel $680 million of federal funding for 12 offshore wind farms.
00:34:52.740 That's great.
00:34:53.440 That's great.
00:34:54.440 But I'm here to tell you offshore wind is only about 20% of the renewables being applied.
00:35:00.600 Solar power is far less valuable, far less capacity factor.
00:35:05.140 It works far lesser time of the day on average across the country, only 4.8 hours.
00:35:10.640 That's what's going on now, not offshore wind, not onshore wind.
00:35:14.720 Solar and people are paying the price.
00:35:17.560 It's six times more costly than conventional combined cycle power that we've become accustomed to.
00:35:23.320 We're only building solar farms.
00:35:25.620 Utilities in red, get this, red and blue states alike going crazy, allowing the build out of this.
00:35:31.920 This year, for example, across the country, according to Chris's DOE data, 91% of new capacity power in the country this year being built is solar, battery storage, and a little bit of wind.
00:35:45.000 Say that again.
00:35:46.480 What percent of the new energy?
00:35:50.660 91%.
00:35:51.180 New power plants in the country this year will be solar, battery storage, and a little bit of wind.
00:35:57.360 So wind is not the issue.
00:35:57.820 How do we get out of it?
00:35:59.260 What does it need to do?
00:36:01.440 We need to throw our bodies in front of the Chinese importation.
00:36:04.880 Chinese imports are 87% of solar panels, 87% of battery storage, about 60% of inverters, all coming from China.
00:36:14.280 Trade deal be damned.
00:36:15.620 We've got to throw our bodies in front of that.
00:36:18.460 And the two-year extension of the incentives is causing developers and utilities alike, utilities who are massive Republican donors.
00:36:27.180 Utility to our massive Republican donors, such as FPL here in Florida, with a $10 billion rate increase that they're trying to jam down ratepayers' throats to build another 130 utility-scale solar farms here.
00:36:40.940 Under DeSantis' watch, Republicans fully aware of this, but you're not hearing a peep about this from Washington.
00:36:46.520 This is the problem with, as this stuff feeds into raising massive rate hikes.
00:36:51.920 Yeah, before we go to the next issue, why don't you give a shout-out what states, what power companies, if the politicians won't say a peep, maybe the war room posse will say a peep.
00:37:03.740 What do you recommend for a mass communication strategy?
00:37:07.700 Well, we need to pound away in ERCOT, Texas, all solar and battery storage being installed there, still no gas-fired power.
00:37:15.240 However, Florida, all of the new capacity for the next 10 years announced by the three regulated utilities is entirely solar and battery storage.
00:37:24.480 So that's two red states.
00:37:25.580 Blue states, Maryland, and New Jersey have both announced three and four times rate increases, respectively, due to the teardown of coal, nuclear, and stuff that runs all the time and creates cost-effective electricity being displaced with part-time intermittent sources.
00:37:41.080 So we're seeing – and the trouble is going to be in that red states are dominantly doing this because of utility Republican donations.
00:37:50.540 They're going to be – we're going to have a record landslide of folks thrown out of office locally over this going on, because people know what's happening with this.
00:37:59.600 And the Dems are taking advantage of throwing rocks at us.
00:38:03.200 Yep.
00:38:03.980 Hey, let me jump.
00:38:05.140 We – we're running a hair short on time, but give us two or three minutes, and we'll get you back on to go in-depth dive.
00:38:11.880 But, you know, Xi and Putin having energy deals, huge new pipelines being built through Mongolia, where India – we're having a little tension there with them, driving them a little bit toward Russia.
00:38:27.420 How does the power politics play out on the energy front in the year – next year or two ahead of us, Dave?
00:38:34.400 Well, Putin just went to visit Xi a couple of days ago.
00:38:38.000 They announced a second major pipeline into China that's 50 billion cubic meters a day of natural gas on a second pipeline, increasing the existing one 6 billion cubic meters a day.
00:38:50.540 So about 147 percent increase in Chinese importation of pipeline gas, which is way cheaper than LNG coming on boats from the U.S. into China to remove any last vestiges of dependency on the U.S. for LNG.
00:39:06.560 China will be – the worst effort this Biden war was – Ukraine-Russia activity basically was the alliance of Russia and China militarily and energy-wise.
00:39:16.980 So this completes the coup.
00:39:18.700 They'll be completely independent with Russia on something that they have lacked.
00:39:23.460 China has lacked natural gas, wants to build a lot more combined cycle, yes, fully operational 24-hour-a-day power plants to fuel their industrial growth.
00:39:33.120 Exactly what we need to be doing here, but we're not doing.
00:39:36.340 We're building solar farms all sourced from them.
00:39:39.120 So this presents an opportunity to get back into this trade deal.
00:39:41.980 The trade deal is not the main thing.
00:39:43.500 The main thing is the ruination of U.S. energy supply.
00:39:47.200 As long as this is happening, we're not going to buy gas from the United States.
00:39:50.840 We should not be purchasing solar panel, one inverter, one battery storage, one from China.
00:39:56.540 One, unaffordable, intermittent, part-time energy, useless.
00:40:00.320 But secondly, no reason to be supporting their economy with these kinds of purchases of energy devices from them while they're abandoning U.S. natural gas.
00:40:08.960 So it's a big deal.
00:40:10.240 Well, India is in the penalty box for supporting Russian procurement, but we don't have China.
00:40:15.720 We're not putting China in the penalty box in this trade deal for doing exactly the same thing, being an ally of Russia in this Ukraine war, an ally of Iran in their activities with Hamas and Hezbollah.
00:40:27.080 And we're letting them get out of jail free pass because we want the trade deal.
00:40:32.000 Trade deal cannot include the procurement of solar panels, inverters, and battery storage in China.
00:40:36.520 Yeah, this is not a fair question, but economists, when they do their calculations, are supposed to include the full costs of all of our activities.
00:40:47.660 So this war, this misplaced war in Ukraine, caused by a coup in our CIA in 2014, along with coups since 1953 in about 70 countries, just back of the envelope, what do you think the energy costs are alone,
00:41:07.140 that we've just added on our economy in terms of billions or in terms of GDP growth, if you add on the damage that that war has just inflicted on our economy, just give us some way of looking at it.
00:41:22.560 It's a horror show, is what I'm trying to get at.
00:41:25.160 How big is the horror show?
00:41:27.640 Well, just to shut off LNG to China, because of what's happened the last three years, has probably been 60 to 70 billion of terminus of that excellent value.
00:41:42.480 Yep.
00:41:42.600 Very substantial. But also, this toll taken, all these utility rate increases are, David, all about the application of renewables, which continues to this day, unabated, I'm sorry, under the present administration.
00:41:58.060 Except for these announcements on offshore wind, nothing, nada has been done about the mass deployment of solar farms by utilities with Chinese equipment.
00:42:07.320 That's been ongoing. That should have been stopped, but it hasn't been stopped.
00:42:11.620 Instead, we want a trade deal. We want a trade deal.
00:42:13.920 So we're going to sacrifice the U.S. energy economy, I fear, to get a trade deal that allows them to have the importation of this equipment here.
00:42:22.800 Europe has actually benefited from this.
00:42:25.240 If we could talk about Europe for quite a second.
00:42:27.560 They've imported 225 billion worth of oil and gas from Russia during the war at lower prices, because the boycott, all the boycott said was they could import at below 60 bucks a barrel oil from Russia.
00:42:40.640 But they've ramped up their imports from Russia during the war.
00:42:43.680 So Europe has actually leveraged and economically benefited from this.
00:42:48.300 Good. How do people get you, Dave? How do people follow your writings on this stuff? They love it.
00:42:53.160 Well, get me on Getter and True Social and X at DaveWalshEnergy. Thank you, David.
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00:45:54.320 We've got Wade with us.
00:45:57.260 And he has written a document that he's going to share with us from the folks over with Russ Voting Company.
00:46:06.260 I saw Russ yesterday over at NatCom.
00:46:08.040 He gave great talk.
00:46:09.220 And Wade Miller wrote this document, about ready to discuss for a few minutes.
00:46:15.560 But on my reading of it, it wasn't looking too good for the Defense Authorization Act.
00:46:20.780 I used to be in Congress.
00:46:21.900 A trillion dollars we're spending.
00:46:23.700 We're supposed to be pivoting to Asia.
00:46:25.840 I didn't see major moves there.
00:46:28.080 It's a huge budget number.
00:46:29.600 It looks weak like it's strapping Trump's hands together, not giving the president full mobility.
00:46:38.660 It's going full in, increasing funding to Ukraine instead of getting rid of funding for Ukraine.
00:46:43.820 It's more money or the same money to Europe.
00:46:46.740 It's adding more regulatory burden to stop the folks that are doing border work with the military.
00:46:52.940 Wade, is the basic summary right?
00:46:54.860 And I'm sure you can pile on.
00:46:56.300 So thanks for being with us, Wade.
00:46:57.480 Yeah, thanks for having me on.
00:46:59.560 That's basically right.
00:47:00.940 And, you know, it does have some anti-woke provisions, but a lot more needs to be done.
00:47:05.440 For instance, there's not any sort of ban on transgender or cabaret shows, you know, in the military, which, you know, we can have a discussion on whether those should exist at all.
00:47:17.780 But certainly they shouldn't be funded by taxpayer dollars on military bases.
00:47:22.940 There's no real description of what types of flags that these units can fly.
00:47:27.500 We've had a lot of problems with units flying politicized flags.
00:47:30.540 But it goes on and on and on.
00:47:32.560 In other words, there's a lot of work to be done.
00:47:34.860 And, you know, we're $37 trillion in debt.
00:47:36.540 The president requested about a trillion, which is a big number.
00:47:41.000 But the House and the Senate are requesting even more than that, even more than the president has requested.
00:47:46.500 And this is, as you know, this is what Republicans do.
00:47:49.840 They talk about the debt.
00:47:51.560 And then as soon as it comes to defense, they're perfectly happy to plus that up.
00:47:55.280 And look, I get it.
00:47:55.980 We've got Golden Dome research that we need to do.
00:47:58.480 We've got quantum research that we need to do.
00:48:02.080 We've got drone research.
00:48:03.720 We've got AI research.
00:48:04.820 Those are all emerging defense security concerns.
00:48:08.380 It's going to take a lot of money.
00:48:09.880 But the president requested money.
00:48:11.340 And then what does Congress do?
00:48:13.360 They plus it up even more, way beyond what the president's requested,
00:48:16.860 while peppering it with all of these provisions that really tie the ability of the president to exercise his foreign policy powers.
00:48:25.500 We've got to stop that.
00:48:26.720 We've got to unleash the president.
00:48:27.960 And the president has a very clear worldview, a very clear foreign policy agenda.
00:48:32.940 Stop kneecapping the president in statute from being able to execute his agenda.
00:48:39.020 Yeah.
00:48:39.540 And the House and the Senate both say, right, oh, we're all America first or whatever.
00:48:44.120 But the Senate doesn't let the judges get confirmed over the summer for some reason.
00:48:48.160 And this is the way the swamp works.
00:48:50.400 And the other, as an economist, the one thing I noticed, right, I'm against all this DEI stuff, right?
00:48:55.000 That's a disaster.
00:48:55.840 So it's good they're getting rid of it.
00:48:57.180 But the politicians get to go rah, rah, rah and do their commercial.
00:49:00.020 We got rid of that.
00:49:01.240 But it's much harder to do the economics, right?
00:49:04.700 When you get out the funding streams for Ukraine and Europe and the regs and the spending that goes off to the defense contractors, et cetera,
00:49:15.360 that's harder to tackle.
00:49:17.380 So you've got about a minute left, Wade.
00:49:20.180 Tell folks how to get to the document, what to look for, and then how to reach you.
00:49:24.840 Sure.
00:49:25.380 Really quickly, this reminds me of the time I was in the Marine Corps and we were testing out PACs.
00:49:30.140 And the PAC that everyone universally loved was not the PAC that got chosen by Congress because the member of Congress who represented the factory that produced this one that got second place was the one that got funded.
00:49:46.400 And so this is just how the NDA process works.
00:49:49.020 It's Congress pushing its own parochial agenda.
00:49:52.160 But long story short, you can find it at Citizens for Renewing America.
00:49:55.920 Of course, that's our C4.
00:49:58.620 This is where we can weigh in on whether bills are good or bad.
00:50:01.700 Center for Renewing America is the C3.
00:50:03.500 But this document exists on our citizens' website.
00:50:06.680 You can find me on xWadeMiller underscore USMC.
00:50:11.120 And you can go there on our socials, Citizens for Renewing America and Center for Renewing America, to see links to all of these products.
00:50:19.480 Yeah, great job, Wade.
00:50:20.880 Great job, the whole team over there.
00:50:22.740 Keep it up.
00:50:23.260 And the other thing, the NDAA folks, keep your eye on this.
00:50:26.560 They're nowhere near doing a budget.
00:50:27.980 They're not going to do 12 bills or might not even do an omnibus because that'll be so bad they'll do a CR because the omni would be bigger than the current spending levels.
00:50:36.640 But the NDAA goes first.
00:50:38.700 And watch what they tie to that thing.
00:50:40.540 Right.
00:50:40.680 That's the watch.
00:50:41.600 Watch what they tie.
00:50:42.480 That tells you the Republican preferences, what they really stand for.
00:50:47.560 What do they really believe in?
00:50:51.020 And keep your eye on that.
00:50:52.300 Whatever they tie to that.
00:50:53.500 Speaking of a good believer, we got Mike Lindell up.
00:50:56.280 Mike got a free gift pack from the federal government.
00:51:00.020 I thought they were a bunch of meanies.
00:51:01.660 What did you get in the mail, Mike?
00:51:03.340 Well, I just got back, everybody, from our great president.
00:51:06.900 We had a great meetings yesterday.
00:51:08.660 And we talked about all the attacks on myself and my pillow over these last four and a half years.
00:51:13.560 And I get back.
00:51:14.340 And here it is, everybody.
00:51:15.980 This is about 10 minutes ago.
00:51:17.560 This is my phone that the FBI took at a Hardee's drive-thru three years ago, almost to the day.
00:51:24.600 And it took them three years to realize I've done nothing wrong other than want to melt down voting machines and turn them into prison bars.
00:51:34.840 And they realized, gee, I guess we can't get them nothing for that.
00:51:37.660 We can just continue to attack them.
00:51:40.120 And that's what they do.
00:51:41.520 So a lot of paperwork here.
00:51:42.260 One minute left, Mike.
00:51:43.800 Sell us some pillows.
00:51:45.040 Sell us some pillows.
00:51:45.740 About 45 seconds.
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00:52:40.500 And Dave, I'll be busy going through all this today to see what they took out of my phone for three years.
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