Bannon's War Room - Episode 4805： The World's Worst Bet Globalization; Autism Round Table

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.

00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:17.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:19.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.000 Mega Media.

00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.000 War Room.

00:00:45.000 Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff.

00:00:52.000 Okay, Thursday 25th September, Year of Our Lord 2025.

00:00:55.000 Okay, we've got even more to cover in this hour than last hour.

00:00:58.000 And we're going to have an interruption as the President of Turkey arrives.

00:01:01.000 There's going to be a bilat, and I'm sure the President is going to make a few comments 0.89

00:01:05.000 and maybe take a couple of three questions from the Oval.

00:01:07.000 So we'll go to that.

00:01:09.000 And I've got Mike Davis, the Vice Lord, coming up.

00:01:12.000 Also, we're going to go to the Maha Institute.

00:01:15.000 The Maha Institute today has the round table about autism, the vaccines, all of it.

00:01:24.000 It's going to take place from noon to five.

00:01:26.000 We're going to cover it all live.

00:01:28.000 We're going to have pregame if we can fit it in, and then postgame at five o'clock.

00:01:32.000 So just stick around.

00:01:33.000 We're going to get all this done.

00:01:35.000 But one thing I've wanted to do, I've had actually an in-studio interview scheduled

00:01:39.000 before the Charlie Kirk assassination, so we delayed it.

00:01:44.000 But it was important enough for me that it's a book that is extraordinary and an author

00:01:51.000 that kind of had a ringside seat.

00:01:53.000 You know, Gibbons wrote The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, but he did it, you know,

00:01:59.000 many centuries later from his interest in going back to Rome as a young man and seeing

00:02:04.000 all the, what had once been a great civilization and wanting to write about it.

00:02:09.000 This is not The Decline and Fall, this is The Rise and Fall.

00:02:12.000 The World's Worst Bet is written by David J. Lynch.

00:02:16.000 I could not recommend this book higher to get you up to speed as quickly as possible about this.

00:02:22.000 You just heard my rant on H-1B visas, as you hear every couple of days.

00:02:27.000 It's all part of globalization.

00:02:31.000 David, can you just, I just want to toss it to you.

00:02:33.000 Just give your background.

00:02:34.000 You've kind of had a ringside seat for this, and you do The Rise and Fall, and it's extraordinary.

00:02:39.000 It's an epic tale.

00:02:41.000 I mean, it almost reads like a novel, right?

00:02:43.000 It's an epic tale of just people, some who are well-intentioned, some are not, who just made decisions

00:02:51.000 and got us in a situation where it didn't work for people.

00:02:54.000 And now we're kind of in a populist nationalist uprising that we're very proud to be one of the major platforms for.

00:03:01.000 And that's why I want people to read this.

00:03:03.000 So just how did you get the idea for the book?

00:03:05.000 What's your background in it?

00:03:07.000 And just talk to us about it.

00:03:09.000 Well, first, thanks for having me on.

00:03:12.000 You know, I was struck a few years ago on the sidelines of one of the G20 global summits, which was a very messy affair.

00:03:25.000 Nobody was really getting along.

00:03:27.000 Vladimir Putin didn't even show up.

00:03:29.000 Xi Jinping proved kind of prickly on some key issues.

00:03:34.000 And it struck me at the time that this was not at all the kind of harmonious environment that the architects of U.S.-led globalization had anticipated back at the end of the Cold War.

00:03:47.000 Remember the so-called end of history by Francis Fukuyama, the idea that democracy and free markets were spreading around the world as sort of the natural end state almost of human evolution.

00:04:00.000 And, you know, I lived through that, as you did.

00:04:03.000 And I'll confess I was kind of part and parcel of that conventional wisdom.

00:04:08.000 And it seemed like, why not?

00:04:10.000 You know, anybody who lived through the collapse of the Berlin Wall, the dissolution of the Soviet Union on Christmas Day, of all things, in 1991.

00:04:21.000 It was easy to think that, you know, happy days were here again.

00:04:25.000 And we were going to end up with more and more globalization, more and more trade liberalization.

00:04:31.000 And the result would be widespread shared prosperity here at home, but also a more peaceful world abroad as authoritarian nations like Russia and China opened up their political systems and joined a U.S.-led international order.

00:04:49.000 And, of course, that's not where we've ended up.

00:04:52.000 And I try to tell that story through the eyes of a half a dozen or so representative Americans, you know, a worker, a venture capitalist, a couple of presidents.

00:05:02.000 And I think it is the economic story of our time.

00:05:06.000 I think it's important to understand what's worked and what hasn't worked over the last 30 years so that we're better positioned for what comes next.

00:05:15.000 Let's go back to that time in the 90s because you had a guy I worked for and I didn't work directly for him.

00:05:23.000 He kind of ran the trading side of the firm.

00:05:25.000 Steve Friedman ran the investment banking side and Bob Rubin ran the trading side.

00:05:28.000 But when I was at Goldman Sachs in the 80s, you had Bob Rubin and Bill Clinton.

00:05:32.000 There, because that kind of is the initial, the point of initial, initiates this.

00:05:37.000 The Clinton, their concept of globalization and particularly this bet that everybody had that liberal democracy and free market capitalism had actually won.

00:05:51.000 And that these other cultures and societies and everybody would just do it because Wall Street and the global corporate community thought it made sense.

00:06:01.000 I mean, when I was at Harvard in the 80s, like I said, you got, that was West Point Camp.

00:06:05.000 You got stamped out as a globalist.

00:06:07.000 It was like a immutable fact.

00:06:10.000 It was like the second law of thermodynamics.

00:06:12.000 There was no there was no debate.

00:06:15.000 It's just here's the way to do it.

00:06:16.000 And here's how you perfect it with supply chains and, you know, labor that can go everywhere, capital that's borderless, et cetera.

00:06:23.000 So walk us, take us back into the book in this concept of the decade of the 90s and the personalities that really were the initiating event.

00:06:31.000 It was a heady time.

00:06:34.000 And, you know, you go back now and you read what some of the main policymakers of the era were saying from both parties.

00:06:42.000 And, you know, many of the quotes have not aged well.

00:06:47.000 And I think of Bill Clinton as sort of the godfather of U.S.-led globalization.

00:06:51.000 And I think he understood the pros and potential cons better than anybody, certainly articulated it better than just about any other American politician I can think of.

00:07:04.000 And he always warned at the time we said a couple of things.

00:07:07.000 He said, you know, globalization is a fact, not a choice.

00:07:11.000 And I think he was referring there largely to the impact of technology.

00:07:15.000 But he said, you know, this is going to be a good thing.

00:07:18.000 It's going to make the society wealthier and more prosperous overall, which it did.

00:07:24.000 But there are going to be distributional effects.

00:07:27.000 There's going to be so-called winners and losers.

00:07:29.000 And that's OK, because the winners are going to do so well that some of their gains can go to help the quote unquote losers, the folks who otherwise might be left behind.

00:07:41.000 And we're going to make sure they get all the assistance they need, retraining, relocation, whatever sort of support might equip a basic factory worker to fully participate in this brave new age.

00:07:55.000 We're going to make sure they get that help.

00:07:58.000 And as I say in the book, it was an attractive theory.

00:08:01.000 And for a while it looked like it might even be true.

00:08:04.000 But the problem was it never happened.

00:08:06.000 It never happened under multiple administrations.

00:08:09.000 Sorry.

00:08:11.000 Yeah.

00:08:12.000 I want to go to that.

00:08:13.000 Now, I want to go to that.

00:08:14.000 I don't want to bury the lead you said about both political parties.

00:08:17.000 If you read this, and that's why I think the book's very powerful now for people to go back and understand how we got here and how we where this goes, because we're hardcore economic nationalists and populists here in the war room.

00:08:30.000 But both there was no dissension.

00:08:33.000 There was no meaningful dissent of both political parties.

00:08:37.000 People would say today we're so divided.

00:08:38.000 Well, hey, we were united kind of.

00:08:41.000 I mean, there were cultural issues, but on this basic central fact of the modern industrial economy, both parties essentially had the same outlook.

00:08:52.000 Maybe on the margins, they had some differences, but the same essential.

00:08:55.000 You had unity.

00:08:56.000 You actually had unity in what was a business model for the United States.

00:08:59.000 Now, it turns out that that business model, as we would argue here, was one million percent wrong. 0.95

00:09:05.000 It's the reason I love the title of your book is the world's I would call it the dumbest bet, but certainly the worst bet. 0.95

00:09:11.000 But go back in time. 0.94

00:09:12.000 There was no there was no dissension on this.

00:09:15.000 This was essentially kind of Wall Street and corporate and political kind of mind meld.

00:09:23.000 Was it not?

00:09:25.000 It largely was.

00:09:27.000 Yes.

00:09:28.000 And there's a quote from George W. Bush as he was running for the presidency in late 1999, I believe.

00:09:35.000 And it's a lovely quote.

00:09:37.000 I don't think I can quote it all from memory, but the paraphrase is something like economic freedom.

00:09:43.000 And he was talking here in terms of the opening to China, bringing China into the global trading system.

00:09:48.000 Economic freedom, he said, creates habits of liberty and habits of liberty will create pressure for democratic change.

00:09:57.000 There was a very strong rhetorical narrative at the time.

00:10:03.000 Not that China would necessarily become a Jeffersonian democracy or that that was even a formal objective of US policy.

00:10:12.000 But there was a clear sense in both parties that expanded trade by making China more prosperous would create a burgeoning middle class.

00:10:23.000 The Chinese middle class inevitably would would demand more of a say in their governance. 0.52

00:10:30.000 And that would lead over time to a more pluralistic China. 0.91

00:10:35.000 And I think what happened there was we just we collectively, the American policymakers, underestimated the extent to which the Chinese leadership, the leadership of the Chinese Communist Party was not stupid. 0.65

00:10:48.000 They knew that was what folks in the West thought.

00:10:51.000 Jiang Zemin, the then president of China, gave a speech to party officials and and explained it and said the Western powers think that by bringing us into this trading system, they're going to lay the seeds for our demise.

00:11:08.000 But we're not going to let that happen.

00:11:10.000 And we underestimated the extent to which the Chinese leadership was intent on preserving not just its authoritarian political system, but also its non-market economy.

00:11:22.000 And that's another key part of the story.

00:11:26.000 What I want to go back to your initial theory that, hey, the winners are going to do the winning is going to be so big that the losers will get taken care of.

00:11:38.000 What one explain to the audience, when did that become pretty evident that that was not that was not going to happen?

00:11:45.000 That part of the deal was not going to be fulfilled, sir.

00:11:49.000 I think it didn't take long.

00:11:52.000 Within a few years of China joining the WTO, it was clear that the amount of Chinese imports was far exceeding what the U.S. government estimates had been.

00:12:07.000 There was a study by the International Trade Commission as the U.S. was taking up the legislation that facilitated China's joining the WTO that estimated that after that happened, after China joined, imports of Chinese goods into the U.S. would increase by 7% in the first year.

00:12:29.000 Instead, they rose by 25%.

00:12:31.000 And over three years, they rose by 50%.

00:12:34.000 And a lot of those products had an impact on factory towns across the midsection of the United States.

00:12:46.000 Even as we were all benefiting from cheaper Chinese goods, from lower interest rates, thanks to all the capital that was flowing into the country as the flip side of the trade deficit, that spread benefits across the economy almost like frosting on a cake.

00:13:02.680 But the problem was the costs of this transformation were laid on the backs of folks in our society with the least amount of education, the fewest skills in basic manufacturing.

00:13:16.680 They took the brunt of it, and what was left behind was almost the equivalent of economic tumors in some of these communities.

00:13:24.680 But within, you know, by 2005, 2006, in the Bush administration, Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson was pushing for the administration to do more to address the needs of the workers who were hurt by this.

00:13:40.360 And I remember interviewing George Bush in 2006 or 2007, I think it was, and I put this question to him and asked whether more wasn't needed, whether the system shouldn't be more robust.

00:13:53.440 And he said no.

00:13:54.960 He thought the existing program, which is called Trade Adjustment Assistance, always terribly inadequate, poorly funded, he thought that was sufficient.

00:14:05.600 And, of course, it wasn't.

00:14:08.920 David, can you hang on one second?

00:14:10.360 We're going to take a short commercial break.

00:14:12.000 David J. Lynch is with us, the author of The World's Worst Bet.

00:14:16.360 If you want to understand the rise and fall of globalization in a very accessible book,

00:14:22.700 it tells it through stories, lots of data, but tells it through stories of individuals.

00:14:26.640 This is the one that can be a very quick read, get you up to speed, up the learning curve,

00:14:31.720 because this has not been sorted out yet, as you can tell, what we argue every day here in the war room.

00:14:40.560 Short commercial break.

00:14:41.380 Also, the viceroy, Mike Davis, as we await the president of Turkey to arrive to the White House for a meeting with the president of the United States.

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00:16:57.000 So, folks, instead of me just screaming about it all the time, you now get to read about it in a really terrific book, The World's Worst Bet, The Rise and Fall of Globalization.

00:17:11.600 David Lynch is the author.

00:17:12.800 I want to get you back when we've got more time because I want to talk about kind of where we are now, where we go.

00:17:18.980 But a question I've always had to myself is because President Trump is not a politician.

00:17:24.220 When he got into this, he's a business guy.

00:17:26.740 But he has these kind of innate instincts, right?

00:17:29.280 How did the Clintons, as savvy as they are in understanding Bill Clinton, you know, Bob Rubin, these guys were kind of the architects in the 90s.

00:17:37.220 How did Hillary Clinton, who, you know, is kind of our arch nemesis here, but I've always said, hey, brilliant, and particularly they have great political instincts. 1.00

00:17:47.980 How did they miss the importance of this story to the American people and how the American people out in particularly the heartland of this country.

00:17:55.160 And this is how we pierced the blue – when I got into the thing, I said, we're going to go after the blue wall.

00:17:59.380 We're going to go after Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin and Iowa and Ohio, which weren't in our camps at the time.

00:18:06.340 Because this is the heart of where the destruction was, and Clinton can't stand up, and she never – in fact, she doubled – she kind of doubled and tripled down. 0.96

00:18:13.860 How did that happen, sir?

00:18:16.420 Good question.

00:18:17.120 You know, I remember interviewing her during the 2008 campaign, primary campaign, when she was running against Barack Obama.

00:18:24.200 And the white working class was sort of her last stand in places like Pennsylvania. 1.00

00:18:30.180 And I remember interviewing her in a high school gym in that state, and she was saying things about the need to adjust our approach to globalization, use more industrial policy, the kind of things that really didn't come to fruition, certainly in the Democratic Party, until Joe Biden was elected in 2020.

00:18:50.140 So I think, to some degree, they saw this, but they didn't act on it.

00:18:56.600 And, you know, by the time we get to the 2016 election, a lot of these communities, these so-called China-shock communities that have just taken in the chops from the rise of China, they get hit again by the global financial crisis in 2008.

00:19:13.600 And that's made worse by global capital flows.

00:19:17.880 And then you have the weakest recovery in the post-war era.

00:19:22.640 So by the time 2016 rolls around, these people have been battered and bruised, and they're desperate for anything other than the establishment approach.

00:19:31.600 And, you know, they didn't have much of a choice seen through that lens in 2012.

00:19:38.600 But by 2016, you've got a pretty clear choice between an establishment, well-regarded establishment figure, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, or this very disruptive, very unorthodox populist figure, Donald Trump, who is basically saying, we're going to throw all this stuff out and do it 180 degrees different.

00:20:02.260 David, whenever I get the book, we're going to have you back very quickly.

00:20:08.080 Where do people go to, if you're giving any talks or book visits, any interviews, where do people go to get up to that on your social media and where do they go find the book?

00:20:18.380 Well, they can find me on social media, David J. Lynch, both on X, Blue Sky.

00:20:24.800 I'm findable on Facebook.

00:20:26.820 I'm even now on Substack, David J. Lynch 1 there.

00:20:31.240 The book's on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, the publisher, Hachette.

00:20:35.740 So it's out there in all the usual spots.

00:20:39.400 And as you rightly pointed out, this isn't an economics textbook.

00:20:44.040 I try to tell the stories of individual Americans and show folks how they were affected over these years.

00:20:50.820 No, it's the power of it.

00:20:54.180 It's a very powerful narrative history.

00:20:56.180 It's got a lot of economics in it, but it's accessible to folks to kind of understand what sometimes seems like you need a Harvard MBA to understand.

00:21:03.900 David J. Lynch, thank you, sir.

00:21:05.340 Thank you for writing it.

00:21:06.140 Thank you for coming on War Room.

00:21:07.120 I appreciate you.

00:21:08.680 Proud of me.

00:21:09.220 Very accessible, folks.

00:21:13.720 The rise and fall of globalization.

00:21:15.920 Of course, we know it's not over.

00:21:18.780 It ain't over till it's over.

00:21:20.240 It's certainly not over.

00:21:21.120 Do I have – I want to play – I got the viceroy here, and I've got it here for a couple reasons.

00:21:25.300 Do I have a short clip?

00:21:26.960 Play this clip, and then I'll jump in.

00:21:28.420 The breaking news of the night is that federal prosecutors have written and submitted a memo explaining why charges should not be brought against former FBI Director James Comey.

00:21:41.020 That news comes a day after a day of intense speculation that Donald Trump's new acting U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia, adjacent to Washington, D.C., will seek an indictment of James Comey, possibly for lying to Congress before Tuesday of next week.

00:21:57.700 Because the five-year statute of limitations on that charge will expire on Tuesday.

00:22:05.180 That goes a couple more minutes, but Ken Delanian, who is kind of the comms department for the permanent Justice Department, not Trump's Justice Department, leaked – got a leak last night at 10 o'clock at night that three career prosecutors are writing a memo that's saying Comey can't be charged, shouldn't be charged, you can't win in court.

00:22:27.240 And it doesn't meet standards.

00:22:29.300 Let's start there, Mike Davis, the vice-roy.

00:22:32.560 Where are we on this thing?

00:22:34.540 Well, let's just step back and tell the audience what happened here.

00:22:38.080 Five years ago, just short of five years ago, we had James Comey go before the Senate Judiciary Committee on a congressional investigation about Crossfire Hurricane, where it's very clear now that the Democrat operatives in the Obama White House, Biden, Obama, Hillary, Comey, Clapper, Brennan, so many others.

00:23:03.500 They politicized and weaponized intel agencies and law enforcement before the 2016 election to take out then-candidate Donald Trump and help Hillary Clinton to cover up her foreign corruption that we've talked about on this show for the last three years. 0.84

00:23:19.940 Comey was called to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

00:23:23.320 He was under oath, and Senator Ted Cruz asked him if he had discussions with the media about Crossfire Hurricane, and there's evidence he clearly lied.

00:23:33.940 He clearly perjured himself, and Andrew McCabe, his deputy, has evidence that Comey did talk to the media.

00:23:40.280 So that is five years ago, right?

00:23:42.760 And so we're coming up on the statute of limitations.

00:23:45.120 I think it's September 30th.

00:23:47.200 The statute of limitations for most federal felonies, like perjury, obstruction of Congress, or it's actually obstruction of a congressional investigation, but obstruction of Congress for short, is five years.

00:24:01.560 And so the grand jury would have to indict Comey by September 30th.

00:24:06.660 And so that's what President Trump's new U.S. attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia, according to these press reports, is going to do.

00:24:15.340 And remember, with a grand jury indictment, you have to go to a grand jury of your peers.

00:24:19.960 They look at the evidence, and they determine whether there's probable cause to move forward with criminal charges.

00:24:27.320 And so that's, according to the news reports, that's what's going to happen.

00:24:31.460 Now, you have these apparently three assistant U.S. attorneys in the Eastern District of Virginia or wherever the hell they are who are writing a memo saying that there's not evidence and that not only is that bad, they're leaking this memo to friendly reporters.

00:24:48.140 And by doing that, they are violating, clearly violating their attorney obligations, their obligations to their client-client confidentiality, the Department of Justice rules as it applies to attorneys, particularly federal prosecutors.

00:25:05.860 It is highly inappropriate.

00:25:07.720 It's illegal that these prosecutors are leaking this memo to their friends in the liberal media.

00:25:14.940 And you have to ask, why are they doing this?

00:25:16.720 They're doing this because they're trying to protect James Comey.

00:25:20.760 They're trying to protect these lawfare Democrats like they've been trying to protect them for the last eight years.

00:25:26.840 And so that's for the grand jury to decide whether there is evidence that James Comey committed perjury and obstruction of a congressional investigation.

00:25:38.260 I would also say this, that remember, in addition to perjury and an obstruction of a congressional investigation,

00:25:45.100 there's also the charge of conspiracy.

00:25:48.340 And the conspiracy is ongoing.

00:25:51.140 When you cover up a conspiracy, you continue the conspiracy.

00:25:56.960 So in order to stop a conspiracy, you have to disavow it.

00:25:59.660 But we got to get this one down now because you're going to get a, you're going to get a, this is low-hanging fruit,

00:26:06.880 and you've got a, you know, the time's going to run out, right?

00:26:12.380 This conspiracy is ongoing.

00:26:13.740 The president, the frustration with the president came out when he put the thing out about Pam,

00:26:17.880 and he's sitting there listening to all the guys.

00:26:19.500 I mean, we have two things going on.

00:26:20.840 Number one is the war against the deep state, of which DOJ has got to take the lead on.

00:26:25.920 And the other is what this political violence is being driven by the left and media now.

00:26:31.480 But let's take the, going off the deep state, do you think we're going to start hiring more people?

00:26:35.780 Because the president is clearly frustrated.

00:26:37.420 We just need more bodies over at DOJ and at the U.S. attorney's offices to kind of make this, to make this happen.

00:26:43.820 We've got a minute here, Mike, and I'll hold you over briefly into the next block.

00:26:47.900 But do we have enough bodies now?

00:26:49.860 Have DOJ understood that the president's frustrated and he wants Brennan and he wants these other guys perp-walked?

00:26:57.520 I have said on your show, Steve, for over three years since the Mar-a-Lago raid,

00:27:03.640 that they need to open a criminal investigation and bring criminal charges in the Southern District of Florida,

00:27:10.720 Fort Pierce Division, where they did the Mar-a-Lago raid under 18 U.S.C. Section 231,

00:27:17.440 Conspiracy Against Rights, because the Democrats politicized and weaponized intel agencies and law enforcement

00:27:24.100 to go after their political enemies for non-crimes.

00:27:27.320 That is textbook conspiracy against rights.

00:27:30.840 The Democrats are very familiar with this charge.

00:27:33.080 It's one of the four charges they brought against Trump by Jack Smith for the non-crime of objecting to a presidential election,

00:27:39.560 which is allowed by the Electoral Count Act of 1887 in the First Amendment.

00:27:43.520 I have made it my mission for three years to bring accountability.

00:27:47.900 I'm going to make it my mission for the next four years to make sure there's accountability.

00:27:51.920 And I promise that justice is coming.

00:27:55.800 My good friend, Jason Redding-Quinones, just got confirmed as the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida.

00:28:02.800 And I have very publicly called on Jason Redding-Quinones to open up this criminal probe

00:28:08.480 in the Fort Pierce Division for Conspiracy Against Rights.

00:28:12.340 Mike, hang on for one second.

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00:31:04.580 Okay, here we go.

00:31:07.360 Right there on full screen is the president of Turkey.

00:31:10.080 The president of Turkey is arriving now for the bilateral meeting.

00:31:13.860 The president's going to greet him.

00:31:15.000 He's going to the working side of the West Wing.

00:31:18.160 We'll continue to watch that.

00:31:19.300 The president, I'm sure, will step out, shake his hand.

00:31:20.900 They'll go in the Oval probably 15, 20 minutes away from starting the bilateral.

00:31:25.180 Brian, Glenn is there.

00:31:26.960 We're all over this at Real America's Voice.

00:31:28.580 Mike Davis, real quickly, brother, and we're going to keep that shot up.

00:31:32.940 Mike, the other aspect of this, this political violence that's now spinning out of control.

00:31:38.220 Coach shot last night, of course, snipers at ICE facilities.

00:31:42.400 They're burning down.

00:31:43.360 They're blocking the ICE facility in Portland every night.

00:31:46.800 He's designated Antifa a terrorist organization.

00:31:49.840 They've designated the transgender militias as nihilistic, violent extremists, NVEs over at FBI.

00:31:57.120 What needs to be done now to stop this?

00:32:00.840 There's no longer a debate about this.

00:32:02.500 What do we need to do to put an end to this, sir?

00:32:05.600 It's very clear that today's Democrat party is the party of violence, and we need to take this very seriously. 0.95

00:32:14.400 And they must face these violent terrorists who are trying to kill President Trump and trying to kill his supporters, kill Charlie Kirk. 0.98

00:32:26.080 This is unacceptable. 0.91

00:32:27.120 And you have these Democrats, politicians cheering on this violence, and it's unacceptable.

00:32:33.960 So what needs to happen is the Secretary of State, in consultation with the Attorney General and the Treasury Secretary, in addition to designating Antifa as a domestic terrorist organization,

00:32:46.720 they need to designate Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization and start charging people who support Antifa with material support to terrorism.

00:32:55.740 You need to expel all aliens, legal and illegal, who are associated with Antifa, and you need to cut off their funding.

00:33:04.720 You also need to use our federal laws to go after everyone who attacks federal law enforcement for assaults on federal law enforcement and attack federal property.

00:33:15.240 You need to charge them with those crimes, and they also need to charge conspiracy,

00:33:20.140 which you can either do a RICO conspiracy, a racketeering conspiracy that we've used to take out the Klan and the mob,

00:33:27.800 or you can use the general conspiracy charge, and you can get a lot of these bad actors with conspiracy charges.

00:33:35.560 And so it is time to take off the kid gloves and go after these violent left-wing terrorists.

00:33:43.780 This is not a both-sides issue.

00:33:45.360 This is a today's Democrat Party issue of violence, and it needs to be at the federal level.

00:33:52.020 We need to have state attorneys general. 1.00

00:33:54.180 We need to have local DAs.

00:33:55.680 This needs to be an all-of-governments, all-of-America approach to take out these terrorists.

00:34:03.760 And we need to wipe them out legally, politically, and financially.

00:34:07.140 Mike Davis, Article 3, where do people go on social media, particularly because you're always coming in hot,

00:34:14.600 and then over at Article 3, where do folks go?

00:34:17.020 Article3project.org, Article3project.org.

00:34:21.560 The most important thing the posse does is take action, action, action, action.

00:34:26.680 Also follow us on social media and donate, but only what you can afford.

00:34:30.640 And thank you very much, Steve.

00:34:31.680 Thank you.

00:34:34.500 The Vice Roy, Mike Davis, thank you, sir.

00:34:36.220 Appreciate you for changing your schedule around.

00:34:38.980 Let's go now.

00:34:40.280 It's the Willard Hotel from noon to 5 will be a roundtable on one of the most important topics of our day.

00:34:46.080 We're going to cover it on all our streaming platforms throughout the day and then back at 5 o'clock for a wrap-up.

00:34:51.080 Britt McHenry, new D.C. reporter and correspondent for Real America's Voice,

00:34:55.840 and the great Claire Dooley, Claire, as you remember, a young filmmaker that we introduced to this audience a couple of years ago.

00:35:02.400 Guys, where are you right now?

00:35:04.560 Why is this important?

00:35:05.760 What's going to be covered and who's going to cover it?

00:35:09.800 Well, this is very important.

00:35:10.960 This is following up on President Trump's press conference about autism rates spiking, as we know,

00:35:17.260 one in every 31, I believe, since 2022 was the latest estimates.

00:35:22.780 But Claire will elaborate on that.

00:35:24.220 We are here. It's all about to unfold at about noon.

00:35:27.640 But, Claire, I want you to take us through this.

00:35:29.960 Like Steve said, you work on documentaries, you're a maha mom. 1.00

00:35:33.980 What about this panel will illuminate anybody streaming, anybody listening, anybody reading about this,

00:35:40.580 more in-depth about the rise in these cases we're seeing and what the concern is?

00:35:47.720 So I think something we can expect from this panel today is to learn about the broad spectrum of autism, right?

00:35:52.640 So when we talk about autism, we're not talking about being slightly quirky or being good at math.

00:35:57.600 We are talking about profound autism.

00:35:59.980 A lot of these cases, they have seizures around the clock, gastrointestinal issues, brain inflammation.

00:36:06.080 And the medical industry has slapped a title of autism on these people because the spectrum of autism is so broad.

00:36:13.680 So today, we are having a broad discussion in detail, broken into four panels where you can learn about, you know,

00:36:20.200 the genetics behind autism, the epigenetics, the environmental factors.

00:36:25.100 Of course, we're going to talk about vaccines.

00:36:27.100 And we're going to talk about activism as well.

00:36:29.360 We have spellers where we have these incredible cases where non-verbal or non-speaking autistic adults 0.93

00:36:35.300 who haven't spoken for their entire life at 25 are learning how to speak with these boards.

00:36:40.480 So we have a lot of really amazing topics and conversations that should be happening around autism.

00:36:45.980 And so with the Maha Institute and Maha Action, we're really excited about the announcement last Monday.

00:36:52.180 But we want to go deeper, right?

00:36:53.780 You know, we're really glad Trump brought up, you know, Tylenol and acetaminophen and all these different issues.

00:36:59.100 But today, we're going to go as deep as we can to these topics.

00:37:02.200 You can arm yourself with information and figure out what's actually going on with autism.

00:37:05.960 Because so far, the medical industry has gaslit mothers, right? 0.96

00:37:10.560 So I traveled the country.

00:37:12.860 I interviewed parents, thousands of parents with Polly Tommy on the CHD bus.

00:37:17.540 And we interviewed parents whose children had been injured by autism or by vaccines and had caused autism.

00:37:22.980 And so those parents told the same story over and over again.

00:37:27.240 They didn't know each other, but they had the same exact experiences.

00:37:30.160 And, you know, by 18 months, your kid's getting 25 different shots in the United States.

00:37:35.780 And these parents are saying, hey, look, I'm seeing these adverse reactions.

00:37:38.940 My kids started banging their head on the wall.

00:37:40.480 They're losing speech.

00:37:41.300 They're losing the ability to walk.

00:37:42.760 They're having seizures.

00:37:44.000 They're having fevers.

00:37:45.060 They're having rashes.

00:37:46.320 And doctors are just saying, oh, no, it's fine.

00:37:48.000 Keep vaccinating.

00:37:48.760 Give them some Tylenol.

00:37:49.880 Go home.

00:37:50.440 Sleep it off.

00:37:50.860 It'll be fine.

00:37:51.880 And then when the mother sees her child and her child, she's losing her child in front of her own eyes.

00:37:57.660 And the medical industry is completely pretending like it's not happening.

00:38:01.400 We are here today to say it is happening.

00:38:04.160 Your child is regressing.

00:38:05.920 And we're going to go into the details of all the science behind what's going on.

00:38:11.540 So I'm really, really excited.

00:38:14.100 Why has there been such a resistance to it?

00:38:15.700 On the phone, we spoke about Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carrey going back 20, 30 years ago

00:38:22.380 that started to ring alarm bells as parents, as concerned citizens, about the vaccination rate.

00:38:29.740 Why, when you speak to these families affected, has it taken it so long?

00:38:35.220 I think that's a question a lot of people, not as educated on everything.

00:38:38.820 Hopefully they will be today.

00:38:40.760 Why has it taken so long to get to this point where we're now touching taboo subjects like Tylenol,

00:38:46.160 over-the-counter medicines?

00:38:47.180 Why has it had this stigma?

00:38:49.880 Well, there's several factors at play here.

00:38:51.500 Ultimately, we have censorship.

00:38:53.420 And RFK Jr. has talked about the direct market to consumer advertising.

00:38:57.480 That's a big issue.

00:38:58.780 Pharmaceutical interest.

00:39:00.180 In 1986, the Vaccine Injury Act was passed,

00:39:04.180 where pharmaceutical companies were given immunity from lawsuits from vaccines.

00:39:08.240 And we had several different cases with the swine flu and even polio,

00:39:12.700 where people were brain injured with DTP vaccine that they later recalled and replaced with DTaP.

00:39:17.140 And there's been profound cases in history with vaccine injury.

00:39:20.940 And the whole goal of the medical or pharmaceutical interest is to erase them, right?

00:39:26.060 We have a whole court set up in the United States to pay out awards for injury, yet vaccine injury doesn't exist.

00:39:34.040 I mean, come on.

00:39:34.860 That's why we're here, because we're saying, hey, this is actually happening.

00:39:39.300 And I think this conversation should have happened 20 years ago, 30 years ago.

00:39:43.140 Hey, Britt. 0.88

00:39:43.780 Hey, Britt. 0.88

00:39:44.360 Hey, Britt. 0.88

00:39:45.320 Britt, let me jump in here for a second. 1.00

00:39:47.700 President Trump, he did talk about Tylenol.

00:39:49.520 But I know Trump, I think, as well as anybody publicly.

00:39:53.200 And when he talked about the little baby and the vat laying next to it,

00:39:58.580 and you could see it touched him as a human in the stories with the mothers.

00:40:02.760 And he talked about the long history with his friends.

00:40:05.040 But then he said later, with everything else he's got going on and is known for,

00:40:10.040 he's going to stake his presidency on the success of this, of reversing this with autism.

00:40:14.840 That is President Trump driving a stake in the ground and saying, not just am I all in.

00:40:19.860 I mean, he kind of out-bobbied Bobby Kennedy that day, which is impossible to do.

00:40:24.160 He said, I'm staking my presidency on reversing this.

00:40:28.000 How does that impact you and your movement, who have kind of been treated as, you know,

00:40:33.660 outliers or kind of wingnuts up until the Trump presidency?

00:40:39.640 I would definitely say that a lot of these mothers are outliers. 1.00

00:40:43.980 They can't leave their home because autism is so severe that the public cannot see them.

00:40:49.020 And so to have the President of the United States come out and say, hey, we're going to look into this.

00:40:52.740 We're going to stake, I'm going to stake my presidency on this.

00:40:56.620 It means a lot to us.

00:40:58.060 But at the same time, we are going to keep on doing at Maha what we've always done.

00:41:02.760 I mean, I am deeply rooted with grassroots organizations all over the country.

00:41:07.620 And it doesn't just stop with vaccines.

00:41:10.220 It goes with the health of America in general.

00:41:12.280 Hey, Claire, we've got to cut to the White House, the Oval Office.

00:41:16.920 The President started.

00:41:17.880 We'll come back to you guys.

00:41:18.840 Let's go to the Oval Office, President of the United States.

00:41:21.000 We're going to get a lot done.

00:41:22.500 But I have great respect for this man.

00:41:24.460 And we've had a very good relationship for a long time.

00:41:27.960 If you remember, he let Pastor Brunson, he freed Pastor Brunson.

00:41:32.520 Pastor Brunson was put in jail for 35 years before I got there.

00:41:36.360 This was a group that should have stopped it.

00:41:40.240 And the President, after I called him, released him, which was a great thing for our Christian community, our evangelical community.

00:41:50.080 The evangelicals really, really wanted that.

00:41:52.500 It was very important to him, so I always remember that.

00:41:54.540 But he released him from 35 years in prison.

00:41:58.720 And Pastor Brunson now is healthy, happy and well.

00:42:02.800 And we're very happy about that.

00:42:04.680 But it's a great honor to have the President of Turkey with us.

00:42:09.600 And how are you?

00:42:11.440 Say a few words.

00:42:13.200 And you.

00:42:13.760 Great guy.

00:42:15.100 Can you please let me know about this tour?

00:42:18.800 Our Sunday did happen in the UN website.

00:42:23.400 We know that we have this visit for the UN punching and the spinning of the UK,

00:42:28.000 so we are very grateful for colleagues...

00:42:32.300 We have like this кожfus in America,

00:42:35.600 there is a government barrier in terms of peculiar mediaations of Turkey.

00:42:40.600 We live in a different period of time.

00:42:44.600 As I mentioned earlier,

00:42:48.600 we believe that the F-35 issue,

00:42:51.600 the F-16 issue,

00:42:54.600 or the Halk Bank,

00:42:59.600 we believe that we have a conversation

00:43:02.600 about the relationship between the F-35 and the F-16 issue.

00:43:05.600 If it is related to the school,

00:43:11.600 we are ready to do that.

00:43:15.600 After that, we will find the opportunity to meet this issue.

00:43:24.600 First, Mr. President,

00:43:26.600 I am very pleased that this visit actually coincides with the 80th UNGA.

00:43:30.600 So I am very pleased to be here with my colleagues and friends.

00:43:34.600 And as we have said during the first term of your presidency

00:43:37.600 and during your second term,

00:43:38.600 we are able to carry Turkey and U.S. relations

00:43:41.600 to a much different level and process.

00:43:43.600 And as you said, we have an opportunity here today

00:43:46.600 to be able to discuss some of the issues regarding the F-35,

00:43:49.600 the F-16, and also the Halk Bank case,

00:43:52.600 and we will have an opportunity to thoroughly discuss them.

00:43:55.600 And based on what you have mentioned regarding the school,

00:43:59.600 we are ready to do whatever we can that falls on our part.

00:44:02.600 And I will, when I get back, try to discuss this issue

00:44:05.600 with the esteemed Mr. Bartholamos

00:44:07.600 to discuss how we can move forward on that.

00:44:10.600 Okay, very good.

00:44:11.600 I would like to be able to do that.

00:44:13.600 The Greek Orthodox Church was here,

00:44:17.600 and they would really like to have some help.

00:44:20.600 They need some help.

00:44:21.600 And he said I'd mention it.

00:44:22.600 We appreciate it.

00:44:23.600 So this is a tough man.

00:44:26.600 This is a guy who's highly opinionated.

00:44:32.600 Usually I don't like opinionated people,

00:44:34.600 but I always like this one.

00:44:35.600 But he's a tough one.

00:44:37.600 And he does an amazing job in this country.

00:44:41.600 And we've had tremendous relationships,

00:44:43.600 both having to do with war and having to do with trade.

00:44:47.600 And I guess today we're talking about both.

00:44:50.600 I'd like to have him stop buying any oil from Russia

00:44:53.600 while Russia continues this rampage against Ukraine.

00:44:58.600 And they've been fighting.

00:45:01.600 They've lost millions of lives already.

00:45:03.600 And for what?

00:45:04.600 You know, for what?

00:45:05.600 It's graceful.

00:45:07.600 And I said yesterday, let it keep going

00:45:10.600 because their economy is absolutely terrible right now.

00:45:13.600 And I think it's a shame that they're doing that,

00:45:17.600 killing a lot of people unnecessarily.

00:45:19.600 7,818 people were killed last week.

00:45:23.600 Mostly military people.

00:45:25.600 Their people and Ukrainians.

00:45:27.600 More Russians, actually, than Ukraine.

00:45:30.600 A little bit more.

00:45:31.600 But it's such a waste of human life.

00:45:34.600 And so he ought to stop.

00:45:36.600 Putin ought to stop.

00:45:38.600 And with that, we'll get to a little bit of a discussion.

00:45:42.600 We're going to make some great trade deals for both countries.

00:45:44.600 We do a lot of business with Turkey.

00:45:46.600 They build great products.

00:45:47.600 They build beautiful, great products.

00:45:49.600 Really fantastic manufacturers.

00:45:51.600 And we buy a lot from them and they buy a lot from us.

00:45:54.600 Would you have any questions, please?

00:45:56.600 President Trump.

00:45:57.600 Thank you very much. 1.00

00:45:58.600 You repeatedly called out Obama and Biden administrations for their stupid decisions. 0.98

00:46:05.600 One example you gave was a refusal to sell the patriot missile defense systems to Turkey, 1.00

00:46:10.600 which resulted in the explosion of the country from the F-35 program.

00:46:13.600 Now, you are known to be a great deal maker in Turkey. 1.00

00:46:16.600 What can you do to undo the stupidity? 1.00

00:46:19.600 Yes. 1.00

00:46:20.600 CNN Turk.

00:46:21.600 CNN?

00:46:22.600 Because you sounded like a nice guy.

00:46:23.600 CNN is fake news.

00:46:24.600 But you sound like the real deal.

00:46:25.600 Quite fantastic.

00:46:26.600 Thank you.

00:46:27.600 We're going to be discussing the paid gin system, which is the best system.

00:46:37.600 We'll discuss that.

00:46:38.600 We're going to discuss the F-35.

00:46:39.600 We'll be discussing all of the things that you know about and that some of you mentioned.

00:46:44.600 And I think he'll be successful with buying the things he'd like to buy.

00:46:48.600 What concrete steps can you take to make that deal?

00:46:51.600 We haven't even started yet.

00:46:53.600 Can I have one question?

00:46:54.600 He wants the F-35, and he's wanted that, and we're talking about that very seriously.

00:47:00.600 And the F-16, we're in great shape.

00:47:04.600 Certain other things he needed, as you know, and I'm going to see to it that we get that

00:47:09.600 to him.

00:47:10.600 He needs certain things, and we need certain things.

00:47:12.600 And we're going to come to a conclusion.

00:47:14.600 You'll know by the end of the day.

00:47:16.600 Can I direct a question to the President?

00:47:17.600 Mr. President, how about that for you?

00:47:19.600 How about that for you, Mr. President Obama? 0.93

00:47:22.600 Mr. President, you have to kill us both on theкой left, and you have to reach a number.

00:47:29.600 You've been talking about one more than one more than two years old to the Council for 0.65

00:47:32.600 two years.

00:47:33.600 Both countries and problems with respect, rookery regardez.

00:47:36.600 How do you process hard-of-ifier to be fait today?

00:47:38.600 How do you always 케 card you have to try it on the 여자 Ε

00:47:41.320 ?

00:47:42.320 I know that you can really assess your mistakes.

00:47:45.040 All on this, rising today is a lot both extremely important and anxious to our community.

00:47:49.880 Thank you for theлар.

00:47:50.880 Thank you, Mr. President, it's around.

00:47:51.840 Mr. President, you have referred to President Trump's peace efforts and you have also contact

00:48:05.320 with many leaders in the region and what do you think that you can do about this? And Mr. President

00:48:10.900 has said that yes, I believe in the peace efforts that President Trump is leading and together we

00:48:16.640 will be able to overcome the challenges in the region. I think it's true. He's got tremendous influence in

00:48:22.240 the region. Yeah, please. Mr. President, when are you planning to lift Katsa sanctions against Turkey?

00:48:26.940 Katsa sanctions against Turkey? Yes, Katsa sanctions. Mr. President, do we have a good meeting? Almost immediately.

00:48:35.940 President Erdogan is removing tariffs on U.S. goods and what impact it would be in U.S. production?

00:48:45.620 Where are you from? Turkey.

00:48:47.000 Turkey. We have a lot of people from Turkey. That's good. Because I like the question very much. 0.93

00:48:53.240 And we'll see about tariffs. We're going to be talking about tariffs. He already removed them.

00:48:58.700 What we're going to be talking about? Mr. President, what about Gaza? Mr. President,

00:49:03.360 do we have conversations on Russia even if not all NATO countries stop purchasing Russian oil?

00:49:09.640 We're going to be seeing about that. The NATO countries were disappointing in that regard,

00:49:14.800 but they've been very amazing. In other words, they did, as you know, they went from 2% to 5% GDP.

00:49:22.700 And that's a big step. And it's paid. I mean, they have the money there.

00:49:26.340 We're selling a tremendous amount of military equipment to NATO. We're selling. We're not giving

00:49:32.200 like Biden did. We're selling it to NATO. It's a lot. They're buying a lot. I assume they're giving it to

00:49:38.800 Ukraine. They could buy it for other reasons, too. But I assume they're giving most of it to Ukraine.

00:49:43.820 But they're buying highly sophisticated weaponry. And they're paying for it full price.

00:49:50.840 And that's how we're involved. Biden gave $350 billion. Look, this war would have never started

00:49:57.940 if I were president. If I were president, this war would never be happening. Would have never happened.

00:50:02.820 Mr. President, I'd like to ask about Gaza. Are you on the same page, Mr. Erdogan, for Palestine-Israel?

00:50:09.280 Well, I don't know his stance. I can't tell you about that. I just say that we want to get Gaza over. 1.00

00:50:15.320 I had a great meeting with the leaders of that area, of that region, generally speaking, the Middle East.

00:50:22.080 We had a great meeting the other day, Edgar, as you know. And I think we're mostly getting some kind of a deal.

00:50:29.420 But, you know, we want to get the hostages back. I have to get the hostages back.

00:50:33.660 We're the ones that got the hostages, all of them that we have now.

00:50:37.360 But it looks like there are 20 living hostages and probably 38 or so dead hostages. Pretty sad.

00:50:45.880 And the parents of those dead souls, those dead, mostly men, boys, in many cases, like, literally boys,

00:50:55.260 they want those bodies back so badly, as much as though they were alive.

00:51:00.400 And so we had a very good meeting with the representatives of the most powerful countries in the Middle East.

00:51:07.820 And I think we're going to be close to a deal.

00:51:09.520 Sorry.

00:51:09.780 Mr. President, we noticed that in the Ukrainian war and during the Israeli-Iran war,

00:51:24.400 the airspace of the NATO countries is very fragile and it needs to be stronger.

00:51:33.060 And in that sense, Turkey, being the second largest army in NATO,

00:51:37.960 it needs to support its air force and air defense.

00:51:42.020 How do you look at this issue in general as a NATO?

00:51:46.880 Because it's an eastern plane.

00:51:48.700 We're in NATO and, you know, they're paying now 5% of GDP.

00:51:52.360 Nobody thought that was possible.

00:51:54.060 And they agreed to that six months ago when I was there.

00:51:58.140 And the relationship is very good.

00:51:59.880 The NATO countries, I mean, with us, is the strongest it's ever been.

00:52:04.220 We used to complain that they're paying 2%, but they're not paying.

00:52:07.700 The United States was paying almost everything.

00:52:10.160 And now they're paying 5% and they've paid.

00:52:13.520 And that's trillions of dollars.

00:52:15.380 You know, we're talking about trillions of dollars.

00:52:17.220 And they're spending that, giving that money to us.

00:52:20.340 And we are giving them great defensive, you know, the patriots and all of the different javelins,

00:52:26.580 all the different missile systems and everything else that they want.

00:52:30.000 But it's, you know, it's trillions of dollars.

00:52:32.700 So we appreciate that they did that.

00:52:34.660 So they went from 2% to 5% of GDP.

00:52:37.660 And that was something that nobody even would bring up.

00:52:40.980 Biden should have brought it up a long time ago.

00:52:43.580 Because under Biden, we paid $350 billion.

00:52:47.820 And all it did is make things worse.

00:52:50.220 So, we'll see.

00:52:53.540 Are we going to see any status going to be taken today about the issue, about the things

00:53:11.800 that are going on in Gaza, Palestine?

00:53:14.260 Are we going to see any status going to be taken today about the issue, about the things

00:53:15.760 that are going on in Gaza, Palestine?

00:53:17.940 We have a very strong dialogue going on with Saudi Arabia, with, I would say, you have

00:53:25.980 four or five real leaders that are being good.

00:53:29.200 As you know, I met with Qatar, Saudi Arabia, UAE.

00:53:33.900 We met with Jordan.

00:53:35.400 The king of Jordan was there.

00:53:36.640 We had, we had great, we had a really great meeting.

00:53:39.960 I think a lot was determined at that meeting.

00:53:42.360 And I have to meet with Israel, and I have to do that also.

00:53:47.760 They know what I want.

00:53:49.540 And we think, I think we can get that one done.

00:53:52.320 I hope we can get it done.

00:53:53.420 A lot of people are dying.

00:53:55.320 But we want the hostages back.

00:53:57.120 We don't want them back one this week, one and two months from now, three later.

00:54:01.680 And, you know, like the way it's been going.

00:54:03.140 We got them all back.

00:54:04.000 We got a lot of them back.

00:54:05.100 We got our American, the American, Alexander.

00:54:07.680 We got the American hostages back.

00:54:10.040 But we have now 20 plus 38 bodies, dead bodies.

00:54:16.160 And we want them all back.

00:54:17.720 And we want them back at one time.

00:54:18.980 President Trump, President Trump, President Trump, President Trump has passed.

00:54:23.660 President Trump has passed when the government has shut down.

00:54:26.260 President Obama will help to release the hostages.

00:54:30.080 Do I think what?

00:54:30.680 Do you think President Obama will help to release the hostages?

00:54:33.760 I don't know if he'll help us in that.

00:54:35.340 I don't really think we have.

00:54:37.040 I don't think it will be necessary in this case.

00:54:39.360 I think we're going to be in a pretty good position.

00:54:42.420 There are a lot of people that want that done.

00:54:44.360 I met with great leaders.

00:54:45.680 Look, over, you saw the people that were there.

00:54:48.560 And great leaders.

00:54:50.540 Egypt was also represented.

00:54:52.780 We met with the leaders of that part of the world.

00:54:55.680 And they want to see if they can get something done.

00:54:58.220 And I'm going to have to tell Israel, let's go. 0.93

00:55:01.460 We want to get the hostages back.

00:55:02.940 They want, everybody wants to see that war over with, by the way.

00:55:06.120 Everybody.

00:55:07.120 So we're going to see what happens.

00:55:08.420 Mr. President, how do you see a joint initiative with President Erdogan to bring the president

00:55:20.620 of Russia, Putin, and President Zelenskyy to the negotiating table?

00:55:25.620 Well, I can tell you that President Erdogan is very respected by both of them.

00:55:30.380 Everybody respects Erdogan.

00:55:32.880 They really respect Erdogan.

00:55:34.480 I do.

00:55:35.680 And I think he could have a big influence if he wants to.

00:55:38.860 Right now, he's very neutral.

00:55:40.760 He likes being neutral.

00:55:42.000 So do I.

00:55:42.520 He likes being neutral.

00:55:43.360 But he's somebody that, if he got involved, the best thing he could do is not buy oil and

00:55:50.160 gas from Russia.

00:55:51.220 If he didn't, if he did that, that would be probably the best thing.

00:55:55.220 He knows Putin like I know Putin.

00:55:57.520 I thought Putin, I've settled, as you know, seven wars.

00:56:01.860 And it's probably more than that if you really want to know the real facts.

00:56:05.440 But seven wars.

00:56:07.360 And I thought this would be among the easier ones to settle.

00:56:11.160 But I'm very disappointed in Putin.

00:56:14.160 And he's been fighting hard.

00:56:15.400 He's been fighting long.

00:56:16.560 And they lost millions.

00:56:17.780 They lost like a million soldiers.

00:56:21.520 And, you know, they've, with all of the heavy bombardment over the last two weeks, they've

00:56:26.720 gained almost no land.

00:56:28.600 Think of that.

00:56:29.800 They've gained almost no land.

00:56:31.120 And I'm not going to ever call anybody a paper tiger.

00:56:36.560 But Russia spent millions and millions of dollars in bombs, missiles, ammunition, and

00:56:43.240 lives, their lives.

00:56:45.200 And they've gained virtually no land.

00:56:49.080 I think it's time to stop.

00:56:50.740 I really do.

00:56:54.540 This is Steve Bannon in the War Room.

00:56:58.720 We're going to toss now to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:57:00.540 We're going to live stream the symposium on all of our platforms.

00:57:04.240 Grace and Mo will do it on Getter, on our Real America's Voice platform, and on Rumble.

00:57:09.360 So stay tuned for that.

00:57:10.260 We're back at five.

00:57:11.040 What do you want to say about Karen's process?

00:57:16.340 Mr. President.

00:57:16.960 Mr. President.

00:57:19.540 S-400, Mr. President.

00:57:21.700 I like him.

00:57:22.460 He's from CNN.

00:57:23.680 Fake news.

00:57:24.620 The worst fake news.

00:57:25.940 But I like him.

00:57:26.960 So it's CNN.

00:57:28.320 Turkey's CNN.

00:57:28.980 Syria has been a major issue between the two countries for the past decade.

00:57:39.980 And you said the future to Syria is in Erdogan's hands back in, I think, December and January.

00:57:46.180 And the countries are in the process of integrating little fractures into the main government.

00:57:52.280 But then do you want to see that happen?

00:57:55.020 Well, I think, President Erdogan...

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Bannon's War Room - September 25, 2025

Episode 4805： The World's Worst Bet Globalization; Autism Round Table

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