Bannon's War Room - September 26, 2025


Episode 4807： Indictment Of Comey; FBI Agents Sent To The Capitol During J6


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

167.7871

Word Count

9,085

Sentence Count

738

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

10


Summary

Former FBI Director James Comey has been charged with two counts of obstruction of justice, and false statements, but a third count is still pending. President Donald Trump has called him "one of the worst human beings this country has ever been exposed to."


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The Trump Justice Department has indicted former FBI Director James Comey on two counts.
00:00:05.180 The first count, obstruction. The second, false statements.
00:00:08.600 Two sources telling MSNBC that a grand jury rejected a third count.
00:00:12.680 That count is still unknown.
00:00:14.540 Just moments ago, Donald Trump said this on Truth Social, quote,
00:00:18.040 Justice in America, one of the worst human beings this country has ever been exposed to,
00:00:22.520 is James Comey, the former corrupt head of the FBI.
00:00:25.440 Today, he was indicted by a grand jury on two felony counts for various illegal and unlawful acts.
00:00:31.300 He has been so bad for our country for so long,
00:00:34.320 it is now at the beginning of being held responsible for his crimes against our nation.
00:00:38.740 Make America great again.
00:00:42.640 My family and I have known for years that there are costs to standing up to Donald Trump.
00:00:48.680 But we couldn't imagine ourselves living any other way.
00:00:52.520 We will not live on our knees.
00:00:54.440 And you shouldn't either.
00:00:57.060 Somebody that I love dearly recently said that fear is the tool of a tyrant.
00:01:03.120 And she's right.
00:01:04.960 But I'm not afraid.
00:01:07.040 And I hope you're not either.
00:01:08.860 I hope instead you are engaged.
00:01:11.600 You are paying attention.
00:01:13.260 And you will vote like your beloved country depends upon it.
00:01:17.980 Which it does.
00:01:18.900 My heart is broken for the Department of Justice.
00:01:23.780 But I have great confidence in the federal judicial system.
00:01:27.280 And I'm innocent.
00:01:28.640 So let's have a trial.
00:01:30.780 And keep the faith.
00:01:31.900 As the person that reported out, how significant is this moment?
00:01:35.800 I'll use the words, Chris, that prosecutors and federal investigators are saying to me tonight, which is simply chilling.
00:01:46.320 Chilling because a seasoned prosecutor who was appointed by the Trump administration, chosen by Donald Trump and his allies, looked at the facts in this case and said there wasn't a sufficient, reasonable basis to bring it.
00:02:01.040 And was resisting bringing it, was pressured to resign or be forced out, thrown out, thrown out on the curb.
00:02:08.660 And he chose to resign.
00:02:10.360 Days later, a person with no prosecutorial experience is the U.S. attorney.
00:02:15.720 And these charges are brought.
00:02:17.200 Chris, for the past two weeks, we have been gaslighted by MAGA, saying that we're too extreme, that our language is too extreme, that you can't use this kind of language.
00:02:26.740 Well, if you don't want us to use extreme language, you should not do extreme stuff.
00:02:30.460 If you don't want us to call Donald Trump an authoritarian, he should not act like an authoritarian.
00:02:36.020 And the reality is, today, it's ironic that Erdogan was in the Oval Office with the president because Erdogan in Turkey did exactly the same thing that Donald Trump is now doing.
00:02:47.960 People who investigated him, he prosecuted.
00:02:51.080 This is completely un-American.
00:02:53.160 And we should all be deeply horrified by what happened today.
00:02:56.000 I want to talk about a truly inspirational public figure named Taylor Swift.
00:03:00.460 Of course, I watched her podcast interview with the Kelsey brothers.
00:03:04.220 Of course, I watched the whole thing.
00:03:05.980 Although, on YouTube, Patrice and I got kicked off for the last 15 minutes and finished it on her phone.
00:03:11.800 But I watched it.
00:03:13.860 You see, Taylor Swift and I go way back.
00:03:16.860 I went to my first concert of hers 15 years ago.
00:03:19.720 I've been to a second and I have helped financially support the attendance of a lot of family members at others.
00:03:27.300 I'm in a family's Swifty group chat.
00:03:30.500 I know all her music and I listen to it in my headphones when I cut the grass.
00:03:35.120 So, yes, I have a favorite of hers.
00:03:36.680 Although, honestly, for me, it's a tie between All Too Well, 10-Minute Version and Exile featuring Bon Iver.
00:03:43.320 Taylor Swift has grown up with my family and provided us a soundtrack, really, as we've grown ourselves and learned and adapted and dealt with adversity and celebration.
00:03:56.020 She had songs for all of it.
00:03:58.280 I suspect that's something that millions of Americans have also experienced in their families.
00:04:03.520 I'm not surprised about the president, but I am still surprised about everyone else.
00:04:07.440 What about you?
00:04:08.300 Unfortunately, Simone, I am not surprised by much of anything.
00:04:13.460 If anything, I am, you know, I feel like they got a really fast start.
00:04:18.060 They sort of slowed down.
00:04:19.120 And now in the last few weeks, they've really picked up steam again.
00:04:22.140 And so I'm not surprised by this.
00:04:23.660 We saw that they raided Bolton's house just a few weeks ago.
00:04:26.340 Now they've got Comey.
00:04:27.740 As Comey mentioned, Chris Krebs, Miles Taylor, people that they have been targeting for a long, long time.
00:04:33.820 There are going to be more of them.
00:04:35.240 This is now part of it where they're trying to clean out the people they don't like to scare everybody else.
00:04:40.520 And as as somebody said, as you mentioned, this is exactly part of the process.
00:04:44.400 And let me just talk about the process, too.
00:04:45.980 That is part of the punishment.
00:04:47.680 Now, Comey is a longtime law enforcement officer, a longtime lawyer.
00:04:51.060 For a lot of people, this is going to put them into significant amounts of debt in legal bills.
00:04:55.960 There are some incredible attorneys out there trying to protect folks that do this stuff.
00:05:00.140 But, you know, now you've been before, you know, your case has been before a grand jury.
00:05:04.460 You've got to have a lawyer, a litigator.
00:05:06.620 Right. Litigators are very, very expensive, especially, I assume, in a federal criminal trial.
00:05:10.680 And now you've got to go before a judge.
00:05:12.900 You've got to be arraigned, all those other things.
00:05:14.780 I hope that the judge in this case, whoever draws the case, you know, will will dismiss this these charges if they believe them to be egregious.
00:05:22.760 But I think we should see that Comey as the top of the pyramid, certainly not the bottom.
00:05:26.880 Like a lot of you, I struggle with how to stand up to bullies without letting their meanness infect me and change me.
00:05:35.220 You may have seen that the governor of California has been generating a lot of attention lately by posting on social media in a satirical way where he mocks Donald Trump and his all caps megalomania and his absurdity.
00:05:47.880 And I find it very funny, hilarious, even sometimes.
00:05:52.480 But I've got to be honest, it also leaves me with a strange feeling at times because I don't want us to become like Trump and his followers.
00:06:01.400 There are far more decent, honest, kind people in America than there are mean jerks.
00:06:08.820 This is really a reminder of how much retribution and revenge has been a driving factor in the president's in the president's presidency, not only in his campaign where he really promised to go after his enemies.
00:06:21.140 But even after he won, he continues to pursue this relentlessly.
00:06:25.180 And you've laid out that timeline of him posting that true social directly to Pam Bondi and later telling reporters that he wanted her to act quickly.
00:06:34.500 He's made this very clear that he wanted an urgency here.
00:06:38.340 And that is something that potentially could come back to bite the prosecutors in this case is his statements to this effect.
00:06:44.040 And this is really a break for a president that we have seen for decades now, but the White House has not been involved in Justice Department actions.
00:06:52.020 And that clearly seems to be not the case tonight.
00:06:57.000 We can't stop people from being jerks.
00:07:00.000 What we can do is stop it from hurting us, from changing us.
00:07:05.420 At my second Taylor Swift concert in Hartford, Connecticut, 14 years ago this summer, she sang a song about this topic, asking, why you got to be so mean?
00:07:18.600 And she spoke directly to the nasty people.
00:07:22.540 I bet you got pushed around.
00:07:24.400 Somebody made you cold.
00:07:26.000 But the cycle ends right now because you can't lead me down that road.
00:07:31.240 You'll be glad I didn't sing that.
00:07:32.600 That's right.
00:07:35.420 Because down that road is unhappiness.
00:07:38.600 Nobody should have that power over us.
00:07:41.220 Thank you, Taylor Swift.
00:07:43.420 Keep the faith.
00:07:45.740 The increasingly autocratic, increasingly entirely presidentially driven policy agenda that Donald Trump is putting forward, I think, on the questions of the Kimmel story is of a piece with the Comey story.
00:08:02.600 The weaponization of the Department of Justice, the weaponization of the Department of Justice, the politicization of that.
00:08:08.160 And all of the things you saw in the wake of Charlie Kirk's tragic, undeniably tragic murder when you saw J.D. Vance and others.
00:08:17.420 These things have not gone away, saying that the administration is going to war with what they call the radical left and plans to weaponize government in all kinds of ways against what J.D. Vance has talked about, against left wing, what they call left wing NGOs that they're now starting to talk about as if they were sponsors of domestic terror.
00:08:41.020 It is a – where are we?
00:08:43.460 We're at a dark place, Joe.
00:08:45.980 And I take some comfort in the fact that Jimmy Kimmel got back on the air and gave us that momentary reprieve.
00:08:53.220 But I don't think that their campaign against broadcasters and free speech is over, not by a long shot.
00:08:58.340 And it feels this has been a very, very sobering week at the end of a string of very, very sobering weeks since this administration got underway back in January, eight months ago.
00:09:07.480 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:09:15.320 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:09:20.540 You're just not going to free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:09:24.820 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:09:26.720 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:09:28.160 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:09:30.860 It's going to happen.
00:09:32.120 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:09:35.520 Mega Media.
00:09:36.420 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:09:42.320 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:09:46.060 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:09:52.420 War Room.
00:09:53.280 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:10:00.380 It's Friday, 26th September in the year of our Lord, 2025.
00:10:04.240 The President of the United States is leaving to head up to the Brighter Cup.
00:10:08.400 Just had a gag where we're going to play that momentarily.
00:10:11.120 John Solomon joins us with a massive scoop of big breaking news.
00:10:16.160 But I have to say, as I bring John Solomon on, not only is Comey a bad cop, he's a weirdo.
00:10:21.600 I want to give a hat tip to the Denver crew at Real America's Voice and my own incredible production team here in the War Room for intercutting his Taylor Swift video from, I guess, two weeks ago with his very emotional plea last night.
00:10:42.060 And that's from a grown-ass man, you know, about Taylor Swift.
00:10:46.720 And you couldn't tell the difference in the two.
00:10:48.440 John Solomon, first your thoughts on Comey.
00:10:51.500 I know you know this situation very well.
00:10:53.560 Then I want to get to your scoop, sir.
00:10:55.560 Well, listen, the truth of the matter is the people that say that James Comey is lying is his inner circle team.
00:11:03.380 It was Andy McCabe who said it first.
00:11:06.420 It was James Baker that affirmed it in an interview with the Postal Inspection Service that we broke on your show a few weeks ago.
00:11:14.560 And in that case, remember what James Baker said to the government.
00:11:17.880 He said that James Comey authorized me to leak classified information to the news media to his chief of staff, James Rubicki.
00:11:24.820 And we don't know yet what Rubicki's account is, but I suspect those three men are going to be the main state's witnesses against James Comey.
00:11:32.840 It's not going to be a MAGA lawyer.
00:11:34.980 It's not going to be a MAGA talk show host.
00:11:37.200 It's going to be his own inner circle saying, yeah, he authorized us to leak.
00:11:40.720 And, yeah, he lied to Congress.
00:11:41.920 So James Comey is going to face justice probably at the expense of his own inner circle who couldn't lie when confronted about what he had done with the leaking to the media.
00:11:51.760 The Taylor Swift thing, I have a little bit different take.
00:11:53.900 I do find it extremely weird to have an FBI director talking about being a Swifty.
00:11:58.120 But, hey, everyone's entitled to their music.
00:12:00.180 But I think there's something more cunning going on.
00:12:02.560 I think you have to always calculate James Comey as being a calculating guy.
00:12:07.340 He's going to need to raise a lot of money for his legal defense fund.
00:12:11.640 He's about to undergo a really significant legal defense expense.
00:12:15.320 I think he was setting up millennials and others to say, see me as a victim.
00:12:19.480 I'm like one of you guys.
00:12:20.680 And he doesn't like Taylor Swift.
00:12:22.260 I think he's looking to hit that generation, the millennial generation, for donations for a legal defense fund down the road.
00:12:29.280 That may have been a calculated decision.
00:12:31.840 He knew what was coming over the horizon.
00:12:34.140 And he knows he's going to have to raise some money for his defense.
00:12:36.760 And I think there's something a little bit more calculating in that than just being flat-out weird.
00:12:42.620 You see, John Solomon, all those years in the Imperial Capitol, being the top investigative reporter, that's the kind of incident you get.
00:12:50.720 Brilliant.
00:12:51.900 He gets cynical.
00:12:52.920 He gets cynical, John.
00:12:55.420 Before we get to your scoop, before we get to your scoop, I want updates on Bolton because there's a whole wave of stuff that is happening now and coming to the forefront.
00:13:03.040 The media said yesterday Bolton looks like his office had secret or top-secret documents.
00:13:10.080 Yeah, that's right.
00:13:10.680 There's a search warrant return.
00:13:11.840 In his office, they found a secret and confidential classified information, including information on WMD, which is very sensitive.
00:13:20.980 Anything we know about WMD around the world is a very sensitive piece of information.
00:13:25.180 And so this is no different now than the precedent sent two decades ago when Sandy Berger, the former national security advisor for Bill Clinton, in a story I broke when I was at the Associated Press, tried to seek classified documents out of the archives, stick them in his socks and his pants and try to walk out with them, and he got indicted.
00:13:45.340 There is a precedent for this.
00:13:46.720 You are the national security advisor.
00:13:48.540 You know you have no right to take classified documents with you.
00:13:51.960 The fact that they found those documents in his office and that they found earlier information in his email accounts related to the book suggests that he did something knowingly and willfully.
00:14:02.900 And this isn't a retribution.
00:14:05.120 This is a precedent that has been kept for a long time.
00:14:08.400 When you're the nationalist of good advice, you walk off with classified information, you're going to get prosecuted just as Sandy Berger.
00:14:17.040 We're going to take a short commercial break.
00:14:18.940 John Solomon broke a very big story overnight, and the president of the United States has put it up on True Social.
00:14:27.220 This implicates the institution of the FBI and the senior personnel running it post-James Comey.
00:14:37.400 Short commercial break.
00:14:38.400 John Solomon on the other side.
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00:16:57.160 John Solomon.
00:17:01.180 So, John, the story you broke is massive for what it discusses and then also massive for how you learned out about it and what's been been hidden for years.
00:17:12.760 Just take us from the top and walk through, sir.
00:17:15.960 Yeah.
00:17:16.620 Well, first, let me just say something about the culture of the FBI.
00:17:19.240 For 35 years, I've covered it here in Washington.
00:17:21.820 And in every controversy of the past, it has a history of covering things up.
00:17:28.520 The FBI lab scandal, 9-11, Oklahoma City, all stories that I broke, Russia collusion.
00:17:35.180 And over the years, I have spent most of my time trying to tell the American people what the FBI did in spite of the FBI not cooperating.
00:17:43.640 Under Kash Patel, he has broken that cycle.
00:17:45.980 He is now putting out the evidence that will allow prosecutors to seek that indictment against James Comey.
00:17:52.020 That is unlike anything I've seen in my 35 years covering the FBI.
00:17:56.620 And unlike that, he's sending to Congress the documents that prior directors and their teams kept from Congress.
00:18:02.140 And today, we were able to get our hands on one of those documents.
00:18:05.520 What it shows is it answers the question that Chris Wray would never answer to Congress when he was asked.
00:18:10.900 He would not tell how many agents were sent to the Capitol once the violence started there and the riot began.
00:18:18.220 We got that answer because they did an after-action report at the FBI.
00:18:22.600 Kash Patel recently found that after-action report.
00:18:25.880 And it is damning.
00:18:26.760 There were 275 FBI agents, most in plain clothes, without any riot gear or protection, dispatched to the Capitol that day.
00:18:36.700 The reason there was an after-action review is that a lot of those agents felt like they were put in harm's way.
00:18:42.140 They didn't have gear.
00:18:43.160 They didn't have a way to identify themselves to the Capitol Police if they were cops.
00:18:46.920 If they had to draw their gun, they could have had a friendly fire incident.
00:18:51.400 And so that's an important fact.
00:18:53.100 It's something that Congress needed for oversight, and Chris Wray's FBI kept it from me.
00:18:56.960 But the more important issue, long term, to all my colleagues in the FBI who have tried to dispute that the FBI has a political bias problem,
00:19:06.360 this episode, this review, ended up exposing more than the fact that an incompetent FBI sent a lot of FBI agents to the Hill without gear and protections,
00:19:15.800 and then didn't want to admit that to Congress.
00:19:18.260 It uncorked a decade of frustration among scores of FBI agents in the Washington field office that their agency had become clearly politically biased.
00:19:29.880 Those aren't my words.
00:19:31.140 Those are their words.
00:19:32.800 The after-action review resulted in hundreds of statements by FBI agents saying,
00:19:40.140 our agency is a mess.
00:19:41.640 It is a joke.
00:19:42.940 It treats conservatives different than liberals.
00:19:45.940 It is woke.
00:19:46.840 It is more concerned about what face mask you wear than what criminal you kept.
00:19:52.180 It uncorked something.
00:19:53.920 And for that reason, Congress was most likely not given this document, because it would have affirmed what Jim Jordan and what Devin Nunes and what Barry Loudermilk and all the people who have been investigating have been saying,
00:20:06.740 the FBI has a political bias problem.
00:20:09.880 Chris Wray was asked this question.
00:20:12.200 No, that's not political talking for him.
00:20:14.100 He would have known at the moment he gave that answer in 2023 that this after-action report raised a serious amount of concern.
00:20:22.780 If he didn't know, he wasn't in charge of his agency, because this was a very important document, the learnings and the failures of January 6th.
00:20:30.080 This document is significant, not just for giving us the answer we were long denied how many agents responded, how did they respond, but it's more important that it is an affirmation from the frontline agents of the FBI that they had recognized their agency had become politically corrupted, politically biased, politically incompetent.
00:20:50.600 And they were crying for help in 2021, and that help was kept for them until Donald Trump won the election and Kash Patel was installed.
00:20:58.380 Now, on the 275, Steve, I want to give you one possible legal implication.
00:21:03.760 Many of those agents who responded were in the WFO, and they most likely afterwards participated in the prosecutions of J6 defendants.
00:21:13.940 They probably executed affidavits in court cases.
00:21:18.920 It is incumbent upon FBI agents to self-disclose under the Brady and Giglio standards.
00:21:23.660 You've got to play fair by the rules standards for FBI agents.
00:21:27.540 If you were a witness to a crime that you disclose that, otherwise what you say is, I looked at this video footage, and I looked at this evidence after it occurred, and this is what I found.
00:21:37.020 But if you don't describe the fact that you might have been at the scene and witnessed some of this, you may have engaged in a Giglio and Bradyo violation.
00:21:45.280 We don't know yet the names of the agents, but given that there are 275 of them, one of the exercises that Congress could do right now is to find out how many of those agents subsequently filed affidavits and did not disclose they were eyewitnesses, potential victims at the Capitol.
00:22:02.040 That could result in a lot of appellate issues.
00:22:04.660 It may also provide new fodder to defend President Trump's decision to pardon a lot of those defendants.
00:22:11.480 This may have been a cheating scandal in the court system, so that we don't know yet.
00:22:15.980 But from my experience doing Brady and Giglio issues as a reporter, there is a red flag blinking here today.
00:22:25.080 One of the things when I first talked to you when you had this story and you were doing your additional reporting to release it,
00:22:32.600 the thing that shocked you was the amount of anguish, vitriol that agents had about the way the department was being run,
00:22:42.320 the way they thought it was over-politicized, it was against conservatives, really quite blunt statements.
00:22:50.260 Don't we have an obstruction of justice?
00:22:53.000 I mean, the Oversight Committee was trying to do oversight.
00:22:56.120 They knew they had a ticking time bomb at the FBI.
00:22:58.700 We had not just J6, you had the grandmothers praying the rosary, you had the people arrested for praying the rosary,
00:23:05.880 you had the Catholics, you had all these different MAGA folks rounded up by the FBI.
00:23:11.880 Is there legal, does the issues that the agents had with the way the department was being run,
00:23:21.860 did Chris Wray obstruct justice by suppressing this report?
00:23:25.880 It's kind of shocking that nine months into Cash Patel's, or President Trump, Cash came in later,
00:23:32.400 his reign at the FBI, we're now just getting this.
00:23:35.860 Doesn't this rise to the level of at least an investigation on obstruction of justice?
00:23:41.740 Absolutely.
00:23:42.740 There's no doubt about it.
00:23:43.780 Every testimony given by an FBI officer, including Wray himself, has to be evaluated.
00:23:49.940 Every subpoena that was issued has to be reviewed to determine whether the documents that we're now setting forth
00:23:55.900 and making public in our stories, and that Cash Patel is turning over to Congress,
00:23:59.880 that they, whether they were responsive and they failed to turn them over.
00:24:04.980 We were going through a four-year debate.
00:24:07.160 The FBI was pursuing Donald Trump's criminal cases, classified documents, all the way to January 6th.
00:24:15.360 We are having a debate that the FBI might have become politicized, and the FBI brass looked you and me
00:24:20.880 and the Congress cameras and said, we don't have a problem.
00:24:23.980 That is a MAGA talking point.
00:24:26.400 That was not true.
00:24:27.980 Your own agents were crying a lot.
00:24:30.040 Like I said, I've covered the FBI for 35 years.
00:24:33.140 The natural instinct of FBI agents is to toe the thin blue line.
00:24:37.960 Even if your agency made a mistake, we protect the agency.
00:24:41.700 For the agents to uncork with this level of bluntness, calling the WFO a messed up place,
00:24:49.800 the most prestigious office, the Washington Field Office, using the words political bias, corruption,
00:24:55.980 these are words that agents almost never utter about their agency.
00:24:59.400 They always toe that line.
00:25:01.200 This had been boiling since the Comey era and the January 6th event created a moment where they spoke out,
00:25:07.680 and then their leadership looked in the eye of Congress, looked in the eye of you and me,
00:25:11.820 and said, ah, that's a MAGA talking point.
00:25:13.600 It's not true.
00:25:14.500 It turns out their own agents have authenticated it.
00:25:18.120 I think every subpoena that's been issued, if Congress really cares about being an oversight agency,
00:25:23.500 every testimony that's been given should be gone through with a fine-toothed comb,
00:25:28.180 and anything that's not responsive, people need to be held accountable.
00:25:32.300 If they withheld this from specific requests, someone or many people should be held accountable.
00:25:40.200 John, I know you've got to bounce.
00:25:41.420 I've only got a couple of minutes, but I know the president thinks very highly of your reporting
00:25:45.340 and your sense of these institutions.
00:25:47.440 I keep saying we have to have a maximalist strategy, seize the institutions, and have a sense of urgency.
00:25:52.960 It is quite evident to me that Pam and Todd and all the team over there and Cash and Dan at the FBI and DOJ
00:26:01.140 have a very tenuous grasp on these institutions because they're so massive,
00:26:05.560 and they've been corrupt, and they have a certain operating style that they've had now
00:26:09.600 really since the 50s for the FBI, the Kennedy assassination, and DOJ since post-Watergate.
00:26:18.700 Don't we need an independent group of advisors around President Trump?
00:26:22.260 Because Cash and Pam are too close to it.
00:26:24.940 They're trying to run it every day and trying to just tread water.
00:26:29.340 Don't we need a fundamental rethink?
00:26:32.680 And by the way, I'd like to hold you for a few minutes on the other side of this.
00:26:35.700 Don't we need a fundamental group of senior people?
00:26:40.680 I tell you what, I want you to answer on the other side, but the question is to think about.
00:26:44.880 We need to restructure.
00:26:47.500 It's the deep state, but also we have an institutional problem.
00:26:51.540 You can see in this kind of at the last second we had to kind of get this done
00:26:56.620 because the institutional pushback on Comey, which is quite evident, what he did, didn't want to do it.
00:27:02.380 And if they didn't want to do it, it's not going to happen.
00:27:04.200 You saw this in the first term.
00:27:05.360 In the second term, when President Trump basically sends a missive to Pam Bondi publicly,
00:27:11.740 all of a sudden we start to get some action.
00:27:13.180 But if you look at the entire apparatus, we have a very tenuous grip on it.
00:27:17.400 We have a very tenuous grip on the FBI, even though Bongino and Cash, I think, are doing a terrific job.
00:27:22.460 Anyway, think about that, John.
00:27:23.580 I need an answer from the great John Solomon on the other side.
00:27:27.580 All right, we're going to take a short commercial break.
00:27:30.820 Birch Gold, I got a lot to talk about geopolitics later in the show, in capital markets.
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00:30:18.620 John Solomon, if we don't do this, brother, on Trump's watch, the country is going to be an extremist.
00:30:27.540 And you can tell by these bad actors.
00:30:28.880 So tell me what your solution is.
00:30:30.400 What would you tell him?
00:30:31.120 All right, so I'll tell you what my reporting is first.
00:30:34.140 The FBI has been fully taken over.
00:30:36.540 I can't tell Dan Bongino.
00:30:39.100 There are tens of thousands of pages of evidence that have been transmitted to the Justice Department.
00:30:45.280 It has overwhelmed the Justice Department.
00:30:48.180 There are more than 150 requests for subpoenas that have gone to various U.S. attorneys' offices from the FBI.
00:30:54.440 The FBI has had a complete takeover.
00:30:56.580 There has been an enema.
00:30:57.600 There are still people that need to be jettisoned.
00:31:00.380 They will over time.
00:31:01.720 Some of the strategies that Cash and Dan have had there has been to take people who were the bad actors who are very close to pensions and say, hey, you're not going to get your pension.
00:31:12.820 You're going to get fired if you don't tell me exactly what the hell went on here the last 10 years.
00:31:17.020 They've been able to squeeze out secrets from the former insiders of the Comey-Ray world.
00:31:24.680 But we have a major problem.
00:31:26.620 The speed at which the FBI is producing the evidence is overwhelming a Justice Department that is grossly understaffed.
00:31:33.020 And it has resulted in some of those silly moments, like Pam goes out and says something about Epstein that's not true.
00:31:39.740 But the FBI is in a good shape.
00:31:41.380 It still needs a long-term redirection.
00:31:43.980 And that's where, as Devin Nunes has proposed, a blue-ribbon commission of experts, including people.
00:31:50.080 I think they ought to put on this blue-ribbon commission, people who are wrongly pursued, victims of the FBI have passed as part of the blue-ribbon commission, because there's no better perspective how to fix something than somebody that was wronged by the institution.
00:32:03.080 That's the long-term solution.
00:32:04.320 But we have a short-term problem.
00:32:05.800 You saw this play out in the last few days with the Comey indictment.
00:32:09.840 The Comey evidence was over the Justice Department for months.
00:32:13.120 The Justice Department simply is not able to keep up with the flow of evidence coming in from the FBI.
00:32:18.260 The president needs to get more lawyers, more resources there, get more U.S. attorneys.
00:32:23.400 Listen, you've got Stanley Woodward, who's a really major, important player in the Justice.
00:32:27.480 He's still not confirmed.
00:32:29.100 We're eight months into the presidency, and someone at that level is not confirmed.
00:32:32.720 The Justice Department is overwhelmed by the evidence that the FBI is turning over.
00:32:37.720 It's overwhelmed by the subpoenas.
00:32:39.740 It needs to be resourced so that we don't run the clock on statute of limitations.
00:32:43.660 After that's fixed, that's a short-term fix, then I think a blue-ribbon commission to reexamine
00:32:49.860 the CIA and the intelligence community, the ODNI, the FBI, and the Justice Department, because
00:32:55.800 it was one big machinery that ruined this country the last 10 years.
00:32:59.840 And as soon as Donald Trump's gone, it will go back to ruining this country unless its compass
00:33:04.060 is radically reset.
00:33:05.960 The smartest people I talk to think a blue-ribbon commission like we had after 9-11 or during
00:33:11.400 the 1970s, the church commission, that that's the way to go, and I'm sure we can find the
00:33:16.380 political will to get that done.
00:33:17.600 But right now, there's a bigger crisis.
00:33:19.720 There are strong, strong criminal cases that the FBI has dug up that are not in a position
00:33:25.020 to be prosecuted because the Justice Department is grossly short of resources right now.
00:33:29.680 We've got to solve that, or we're going to be damn frustrated a year from now when we
00:33:33.120 see people walk who could have been prosecuted.
00:33:35.340 Okay, is that because, let's leave aside the unacceptable not going on a real recess and
00:33:44.320 having recess appointments to break this logjam, which is outrageous.
00:33:48.840 Let me put a pin in that.
00:33:50.320 Is the rest of the problem is that we just don't have enough talented people who kind of
00:33:56.600 like to cut a President Trump's jib and feel comfortable in a MAGA administration?
00:34:01.220 Or is it more at the top, we just haven't processed enough people through?
00:34:06.060 Do we have a manpower problem of talent, or do we have a logjam of just getting people
00:34:11.200 through and getting them signed up?
00:34:14.660 I think Pam Bondi should go to the President.
00:34:17.060 This is a leadership issue.
00:34:18.340 There's always enough people on the conservative side or skilled.
00:34:21.560 There are prosecutors.
00:34:22.880 He's not going out either.
00:34:33.760 Let's try to reboot him.
00:34:35.260 We're going to try to reboot John Solomon.
00:34:37.140 I tell you what, let's go ahead and play the, while we reboot, let's go ahead and play the
00:34:41.320 gaggle right now.
00:34:42.000 We've got Rudy on deck.
00:34:43.000 Let's go ahead and play the gaggle.
00:34:43.840 Let's go ahead and play the gaggle.
00:34:44.760 I'll tell John to wait six minutes if he goes to.
00:34:54.820 So I'm going to go for a little while to represent the United States at the Ryder Cup, which is
00:35:00.080 very exciting.
00:35:01.400 And we'll be watching that.
00:35:03.360 This is Kai, by the way, in case you didn't know how he is.
00:35:06.860 And we'll be watching a little golf.
00:35:09.400 I think we have maybe a deal on Gaza,
00:35:13.400 very close to a deal on Gaza.
00:35:15.400 Hello, Peter.
00:35:17.400 And it's looking like we have a deal on Gaza.
00:35:22.400 And we'll let you know.
00:35:24.400 I think it's a deal that will get the hostages back.
00:35:29.400 It's going to be a deal that will end the war.
00:35:33.400 It's going to be a deal which is going to be peace.
00:35:36.400 I think we have a deal.
00:35:37.400 It's going to be another eight, Peter.
00:35:40.400 Mr. President, I'm James Comey.
00:35:42.400 Now that James Comey has been invited,
00:35:44.400 who is the next person in the next election?
00:35:47.400 It's not a list, but I think there will be others.
00:35:49.400 I mean, they're corrupt.
00:35:51.400 These were corrupt, radical-left Democrats.
00:35:55.400 Because Comey, essentially, was worse than a Democrat.
00:35:58.400 I would say the Democrats are better than Comey.
00:36:01.400 No, there will be others.
00:36:03.400 Look, that's my opinion.
00:36:06.400 They weaponized the Justice Department like nobody in history.
00:36:12.400 What they've done is terrible.
00:36:14.400 And so I would, I hope, frankly, I hope there are others.
00:36:17.400 You can't let this happen to a country.
00:36:20.400 Will you appoint a permanent U.S. attorney and try this case?
00:36:26.400 Well, we'll see.
00:36:27.400 But it's a pretty easy case because, look, he lied.
00:36:29.400 You told my truth today.
00:36:31.400 He lied.
00:36:32.400 It was, yes, no.
00:36:33.400 He didn't say, well, in my opinion.
00:36:35.400 He didn't do a lot of things that maybe he should have,
00:36:38.400 but I don't think he could, because he lied.
00:36:41.400 That was a very important question that he was having.
00:36:44.400 And he wanted to be specific.
00:36:46.400 But he didn't.
00:36:47.400 The only thing that happened to him, he didn't think he'd get caught.
00:36:50.400 He didn't get caught.
00:36:51.400 That's the answer that he gave.
00:36:54.400 That was a very important answer.
00:36:56.400 And it was very, for him, it was a very good answer if he didn't get caught.
00:37:00.400 But he got caught lying to Congress.
00:37:02.400 The President, are you worried now that the next time there's a Democratic President,
00:37:12.400 they will indict your FBI Director or people on your administration?
00:37:17.400 That's what they tried to do, right?
00:37:19.400 They did it with me.
00:37:20.400 For four years, they went after me.
00:37:22.400 They went after me for four years.
00:37:24.400 And that doesn't include the four great years that we had in the White House.
00:37:28.400 So when I ran it from, you know, 2016 when we won,
00:37:32.400 it began before I got to office.
00:37:35.400 You know that.
00:37:36.400 Wait a minute.
00:37:37.400 Before I came to office, I started hearing rumors about Russia.
00:37:41.400 I said, what the hell do I have to do with Russia?
00:37:44.400 Nothing.
00:37:45.400 And then it got worse and worse.
00:37:46.400 And some of the fakers, not you,
00:37:48.400 but some of the fake news picked it up and they loved it.
00:37:51.400 And we went through a long time with that.
00:37:53.400 And despite that, we had a great first term.
00:37:56.400 It's about justice.
00:37:57.400 It's not revenge.
00:37:58.400 It's about revenge.
00:37:59.400 It's also about the fact that you can't let this go on.
00:38:14.400 They are sick, radical left people.
00:38:17.400 And they can't get away with it.
00:38:19.400 And Comey was one of the people.
00:38:22.400 He wasn't the biggest, but he's a dirty cop.
00:38:25.400 He's always been a dirty cop.
00:38:27.400 Everybody knew it.
00:38:28.400 And it's, you know, as far as the case is concerned,
00:38:32.400 he gave an answer.
00:38:34.400 It was a strong answer.
00:38:35.400 He then verified it a couple of times because that was a very important answer.
00:38:41.400 If he would have equivocated, he would have been, like, a little bit less sure,
00:38:45.400 that would have been very bad for him.
00:38:47.400 So he gave an answer.
00:38:48.400 The only problem is, for him, he didn't think it'd be caught.
00:38:52.400 And he got caught immediately.
00:38:53.400 And he got caught.
00:38:54.400 The problem that Comey has is he got caught,
00:38:55.400 Lyle.
00:38:56.400 And he got caught.
00:38:57.400 And he got caught.
00:38:58.400 The problem that Comey has is he got caught, Lyle.
00:38:59.400 And he was very strong.
00:39:00.400 It's not like, well, maybe, or I don't remember, or I don't remember.
00:39:04.400 He gave a very specific answer.
00:39:05.400 He gave a very specific answer because it was a very powerful question.
00:39:32.400 It's a very powerful question, a very important question.
00:39:35.740 And when he gave the answer, the only problem is he got caught.
00:39:39.200 Well, we're going to see if the radical left Democrats want to shut it down.
00:39:52.780 And there's something that we have a great economy going.
00:39:55.600 You saw the numbers yesterday and they're fantastic.
00:39:58.000 The economy is doing well. Prices are down.
00:40:01.200 We have virtually no inflation. Everything is going good.
00:40:04.600 We're respected by every nation in the world.
00:40:06.900 And you know what happens?
00:40:08.400 The Democrats want to shut it down.
00:40:10.700 They want to shut it down because they want to give
00:40:14.700 billions of dollars to illegal migrants,
00:40:19.300 people that came into our country illegally.
00:40:21.700 Some of those people are criminals,
00:40:23.700 but they came into our country illegally.
00:40:26.400 And they want to give them, over the years,
00:40:29.300 billions of dollars. And our people aren't going to stand for it.
00:40:32.700 They also want to have open borders.
00:40:35.100 They want to have men and women sports.
00:40:37.100 They want to have transgender for everybody.
00:40:39.900 These people are crazy. The Democrats.
00:40:42.300 So, if it has to shut down, it'll have to shut down.
00:40:44.300 But they're the ones that are shutting down.
00:40:46.600 The wider talk.
00:40:48.300 The wider talk.
00:40:49.600 The wider talk.
00:40:50.600 The wider talk.
00:40:51.600 John Solomon continues with us.
00:40:56.300 The president right there, a lot of news dealing with Gaza.
00:40:58.700 We'll get to all of that.
00:40:59.700 John Solomon, can you finish your thought, please, for the audience?
00:41:02.800 Listen, I think the first issue for the Justice Department is a leadership issue.
00:41:07.200 You got to go and take whatever it takes to get from the White House or other places,
00:41:11.000 a group of people who can come in and clear the log jam and get this done.
00:41:15.400 This starts with leadership.
00:41:16.400 I don't doubt Pam's commitment to getting to the bottom of this stuff.
00:41:20.100 I think they're just so overwhelmed right now for what the FBI's turned over.
00:41:24.060 They can't keep up with it, and that's going to deserve the entire country if they don't fix it.
00:41:27.960 So you fix that, Steve, and then when this evidence is out in the public
00:41:31.860 and people can see the magnitude of what was kept from us,
00:41:35.060 then you go get a Blue Ribbon Commission and you rewire this entire system
00:41:39.060 before the end of the Trump presidency, much like we rewired the intel community after 9-11.
00:41:44.960 We did a lot of good after 9-11 in fighting terrorism.
00:41:48.560 Of course, what we ended up creating was a deep state.
00:41:51.260 We didn't solve that problem.
00:41:52.360 We made that problem worse.
00:41:53.460 We have to fix that.
00:41:54.460 A Blue Ribbon Commission is what most of my experts tell me is the right way to go.
00:42:00.460 John Solomon, where do they go to get your reporting, just the news, the show, social media, all of it?
00:42:13.960 I guess we lost John Solomon again.
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00:45:21.460 So right there in the gaggle, President Trump said that more indictments are likely coming against corrupt deep state officials after Comey and will include potentially other high-ranking politicians.
00:45:35.460 America's Mayor Rudy Giuliani and I think the greatest prosecutor we've had in this country's history.
00:45:43.460 Rudy, what say you, sir?
00:45:46.460 Well, I think it's obvious, Steve.
00:45:49.460 The indictment is a giveaway in the history of indictments.
00:45:53.460 I think I know them pretty well.
00:45:55.460 You see how short it is?
00:45:57.460 So you might think as a defendant, I get a little short indictment like that.
00:46:00.460 That's terrific.
00:46:01.460 That's if he committed one crime once.
00:46:04.460 That is a preface, not even an introduction, to the major War and Peace novel that the indictment will become.
00:46:13.460 They're beginning with him maybe because of the time pressure.
00:46:18.460 I mean, she can't be immune to the fact that there's pressure on her.
00:46:22.460 I might think it's unfair because I'm a prosecutor and I don't know what good it is to push prosecutors.
00:46:28.460 But this definitely is a result of the president pushing her a little.
00:46:33.460 And it's a good indictment, don't get me wrong.
00:46:36.460 It's a good case.
00:46:37.460 But it's rather small in the big scheme of things.
00:46:40.460 You've got a case that could be three times as broad as the original Biden-RICO case that I outlined in my book.
00:46:48.460 It could be that case plus two others all in one RICO case.
00:46:53.460 Think of RICO as a novel with seven or eight chapters.
00:46:58.460 Each chapter, a different crime, different predicates, and a different set of penalties.
00:47:04.460 Plus, here's the benefit of RICO, Steve.
00:47:07.460 You can take the money away.
00:47:09.460 So if you want to defuse some of these, let's say, oh, hypothetically, let's say that people were funding Antifa, Black Lives Matter, to do those riots.
00:47:22.460 You could bankrupt those operations.
00:47:25.460 You could take their present accounts and then you could spend the next ten years tracing all their accounts and taking everything else.
00:47:32.460 Case in point, the Teamsters.
00:47:34.460 Joe DeGeneva, your friend, and I did that to the Teamsters.
00:47:38.460 We spent ten years, went on after me, after him, and we took all their money out of the Central States Pension Fund,
00:47:45.460 which took all their money out of Las Vegas, which took all their money away from them,
00:47:49.460 which is why they're a pathetic, silly group of old men now and wannabes.
00:47:54.460 You could do that to the criminal money in the Democrat Party.
00:48:00.460 You could find it all and get rid of it because it was all being contributed to illegally trying to stop Trump.
00:48:07.460 And then trying to lawfully, unlawfully remove a lawfully elected president, which gets about as close to treason as you can get.
00:48:15.460 Now, do I have to name the people involved in that?
00:48:18.460 I mean, I have it written down.
00:48:20.460 I mean, that's the whole group.
00:48:22.460 That's Obama.
00:48:23.460 That's Hillary.
00:48:24.460 That's, of course, Biden.
00:48:26.460 That's the two bums in intelligence.
00:48:30.460 So hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
00:48:35.460 I want to bifurcate.
00:48:36.460 I'm going to get to the terrorism thing and the source and all that after the break.
00:48:40.460 You're going to stick around with me.
00:48:41.460 I want to tell you, I just want to make sure we're clear on this.
00:48:45.460 You're saying that the little two page indictment on the lying to Congress and the obstruction of justice is just the appetizer when it even comes to Comey.
00:48:53.460 But you're because you're saying more things are going to come on Comey.
00:48:56.460 Are you also anticipating when President Trump said that statement right there that you're going to have more indictments in a broader conspiracy investigation about Russiagate, about trying to remove him as president, about trying to destroy his presidency in the first term?
00:49:14.320 Do you think that's what Trump's talking about?
00:49:19.200 Yes.
00:49:19.760 Yes, I'm not exactly sure if the president has envisioned everything that he's talking about.
00:49:25.760 After all, the president's not a lawyer and he doesn't know the tools that are available to them.
00:49:29.760 The president really, the president's objective isn't even so much prosecution.
00:49:33.760 It's bringing it to a public daylight and bringing it to account.
00:49:38.760 So simple.
00:49:39.760 So it doesn't happen again.
00:49:40.760 This is not a question of vengeance.
00:49:42.760 This is a question of justice and deterrence.
00:49:45.760 And if he didn't do it, he wouldn't be a president.
00:49:48.760 If he had nothing to do with this, but this was on his plate, he would have to do the same thing.
00:49:54.760 Otherwise, he'd be a lousy president and we'd have this all happen again.
00:49:58.760 The only thing that's going to stop these people because they are thoroughgoing criminals, very similar to the mafia people I prosecuted, very similar to the terrorists I prosecuted, and certainly just like the corrupt politicians I prosecuted.
00:50:11.760 They'll do this forever.
00:50:12.760 They'll do this forever.
00:50:13.760 We can be in power for three terms.
00:50:15.760 They'll come back and do it again.
00:50:16.760 The Democratic Party has been crooked.
00:50:18.760 I don't know.
00:50:20.760 The two things they embraced originally was slavery and being crooks.
00:50:24.760 That's what the party's about.
00:50:25.760 Its history is boss tweet and slavery.
00:50:29.760 Why someone wants to belong to it and not change its name, at least, I have no idea.
00:50:34.760 Is the potential of these broader things, because last night the historical reaction by people like Andrew Weissman and others, McCabe and these guys, because it's not just about Comey.
00:50:46.760 They understand what's coming, they understand what their crimes are, and they understand where this is going, sir?
00:50:53.760 Well, the one thing I don't see yet, but I don't know the inside of it, I want to see the one really great prosecutor.
00:51:00.760 What I mean by a great prosecutor is the one who can flip people.
00:51:04.760 People think of a great prosecutor as a great trial lawyer, a great investigator.
00:51:11.760 Truly, that's all true.
00:51:12.760 Here's the skill that you have if you're a great prosecutor.
00:51:15.760 This is why I made so many cases.
00:51:17.760 This is going to sound terribly, terribly boastful, but I was the best trial lawyer in the U.S. attorney's office.
00:51:25.760 I won every case.
00:51:26.760 So even when I was the U.S. attorney, I would go to court and try cases.
00:51:30.760 I was the last U.S. attorney to try cases in court.
00:51:33.760 Second, I was skilled at turning people.
00:51:36.760 I was taught by the best, and I turned the mafia people.
00:51:40.760 But I turned a lot of other people.
00:51:42.760 I turned Russian spies.
00:51:44.760 I turned German Nazis.
00:51:46.760 What I mean by that is you'll see a couple of, you'll see about four, five, six indictments.
00:51:52.760 I don't think Comey, although you try everybody.
00:51:55.760 You hit somebody, and then you try to flip them.
00:51:58.760 They were very unsuccessful in that, the Biden criminals.
00:52:03.760 You know why?
00:52:04.760 Because the people were telling the truth.
00:52:07.760 Flipping works when you got real criminals.
00:52:10.760 People that are innocent, some of them will lie for you, but some of them are honorable enough not to.
00:52:16.760 Hang on for one second.
00:52:19.760 We're going to take a short break.
00:52:20.760 The president is landing in Long Island.
00:52:23.760 In Long Island, he's going to the Ryder Cup.
00:52:26.760 And boy, do we need the president's spirit on the American side for the Ryder Cup.
00:52:30.760 And the greatest mayor in New York City, and one of the greatest prosecutors this nation's ever had.
00:52:36.760 Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
00:52:38.760 And hopefully maybe Alex Jones later, after the break.
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