Episode 4823： Where To Turn Following ACIP's Vaccine Recommendations; War With The Cartel
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Trump signs an executive order that could see millions of federal workers lose their jobs, and the Department of Homeland Security is considering mass firings. What does it mean for the future of the agency, and what will it do to the country, and how will it affect the fight against climate change and other environmental issues?
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press vote and Donald Trump are in the kitchen with the active ingredients in deciding what to
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slice and dice here. And those two men are here meeting this afternoon to go through potential
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firings across agencies and potential cuts of projects. He's threatened 16 Democratic states,
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their green energy projects. He's threatened the tunnel that is being constructed here in New York,
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subway transformation project. So there's a lot on the line. And frankly, until the government
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has reopened, the Office of Personnel Management, they sent out to agencies stating very specifically
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that the OMB director is the one who is empowered to determine which federal workers are accepted
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and able to work. And right now they are making the case, the OMB director, that those who would
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be processing the firings are crucial workers and workers that should continue to work.
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And Russ Vogue has been dreaming about this since puberty, according to Utah Senator. Strange,
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strange way to put it. But I guess that that underscores how much he wants to slash the
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government. Explain exactly what this executive order will do. Yeah, Katie, it's got a lot of
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people freaked out. It's a national security presidential memorandum. So it's going by
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NSPM dash seven for short, if you want to Google it. And what it does, it's an attempt by Donald Trump
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to steer the law enforcement apparatus of the United States in the direction of what he calls domestic
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terrorism and political violence. Now, it's important to say, Katie, that this doesn't create
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any new laws or any new surveillance authorities for the FBI. They still have to follow the same
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rules they did before. But what it says is it's making a priority to investigate groups that Donald
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Trump says are leading to domestic terrorism. And that has got a lot of people freaked out.
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And one former DHS official, Miles Taylor, said that he believes that this will allow the Trump
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administration to more easily put people on terror watch lists who previously were not eligible for
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terror watch lists. And you get on a terror watch list, that can be a big problem for in a lot of
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ways. And opening a criminal investigation into someone, even if they're never prosecuted,
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can be a big problem. Or into groups like the Soros Foundation or groups that the Trump
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administration thinks are supporting left wing organizations that they don't like. And so
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that's the concern here. It's got law firms paying close attention. It's got NGOs and groups paying
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close attention and journalists. How it's actually enforced and what impacts it will have remains to
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be seen. But it is a major shift by the Trump administration. And it's it tasks things like
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the joint terrorism task forces all around the country to be looking at these specific targets.
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What are the categories? I don't have it in front of me, but it's it's essentially it's designed
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it's groups that they believe are are fomenting political violence or
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yeah. So I'm sorry. I don't I don't have the list in front of me, but that is the kind of a you know,
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and Stephen Miller has made a big deal of saying in the wake of some of these incidents that he
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believes that there is a let there are left wing movements. There are these groups behind some of
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these people. And of course, that has not there's no evidence to support any kind of organized leftist
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terrorist structure in the United States. And the FBI still has to follow the same rules when
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they're opening criminal investigations. But that's what this is all about. You see the polling
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numbers. It doesn't make sense why they would so openly celebrate mass firings. At the same time,
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people like Russ Vogt, I don't know if he's been doing it since puberty, had this vision. But
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at the same time, they've seen Donald Trump as a vessel. This is what their vision of the American
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government wants to make the government in this 2025 and 2026 is their moment, right? Forget what
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happens next November. This is their window of opportunity the next year, next 13 months to go
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and reshape the American government. I was told back during the transition, Russ Vogt, he wasn't clear
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whether he was going to be onboarded, but Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk were big proponents because they saw
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him as the portal to being able to actually execute the budgetary means to go and do what they
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knew that they would not be able to do independently through Doge. They're no longer
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around. Russ Vogt is and he is the man who is carrying out this vision of the Heritage Foundation,
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the Center for Renewing America, all of these different right-wing groups. This is their moment.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people. The reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people. The people
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have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you try to do everything in
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the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people
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like that go to share the big lie? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
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had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save my
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country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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It's Thursday, 2 October in the year of our Lord, 2025. Vaughn here gives a very good, I think,
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summary of what's going on right now. Russ's vote is clearly in the line of Project 2025 and CRA,
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all the groups that work together for the deconstruction of the administrative state,
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is, I believe, over in briefing the president. And I think that we're going to have some clarity,
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clarity and focus on exactly what they're going to talk about these rifts. And we'll get this to
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you as soon as we know more. But it's a very big and aggressive plan. Also, just some updates on the,
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this morning about the situation at TSA with Quiet Skies, with Gina, Dr. Gina Loudon that we talked
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about, Tulsi Gabbard also got wrapped up. And I think the TSA official that was in back there got
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fired. I will double check that. Also, Julie Kelly's been focused, the Eastern District of what,
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Virginia, and with Lisa Monica is another big breaking story of that. We'll get to all that.
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We're going to have Russ Ibbotson, if he can work at the technology, the U.S. editor of the Daily Mail,
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their lead story, is about a briefing on Capitol Hill yesterday by senior-level Trump officials,
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including the Department of War, talking about, and it sounded like kind of the type of briefing
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you want to do when you don't want to have the War Powers Act enacted on you, but about
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kinetic conflict with the cartels. We're going to get to all that. Russ is going to try to join us,
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Philip Patrick here. We're pretty jammed. I'll ask Megan Messerly from Politico to come on. Megan,
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Jessica, you first were hired by Politico as the national health reporter, and then you segued
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over. You covered the White House today, correct? That is correct.
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Okay, so this is what I want you on. You've got to make this, try to make this make sense for us,
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because I think we're suffering from whiplash now of what's going on about vaccines, autism.
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So as you know, the Warren Posse, 3,500 people volunteered to go through the Pfizer papers
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over the years, big Maha, Make America Healthy Again audience, very pro-Bobby Kennedy, really
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worked on the Bobby Kennedy confirmation. Then Bobby gets in there, and then a couple weeks ago,
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four or five weeks ago, we have the announcement that the $500 million in mRNA vaccine research is
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cut off. Then you have the ACIP. I think ACIP happened before that. ACIP is, they're fired,
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and Dr. Malone is put in charge of it. Then you have, you have the round, you have the round table
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that happened down at CDC, talking about, I guess, the child, the damage done by the COVID vaccine.
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We've had one series of events, and then President Trump, this historic, I guess Tuesday, a week ago now,
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comes into the Roosevelt Room, and actually out Bobby Kennedy's Bobby Kennedy, and we think it's going to be
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kind of almost a bait and switch, because they're talking about Tylenol, and we're talking about the whole
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autism thing, and he actually says he's staking his presidency. With everything he's doing, he's staking his
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presidency as a success of whether he kind of solves this autism situation. I think everybody's sitting there
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going, this is incredible. I mean, he goes next level. And then yesterday, we have, which is kind of the
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great Satan here for the four-room audience. Pfizer's in the Oval, and the next thing you know,
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I think we're approving mRNA research, and Pfizer's getting, they're cutting some drug prices, but
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they're honored in the Oval Office as a conquering hero. Can you just make it make sense for us?
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What exactly, because it looks like at certain times, Bobby Kennedy and HHS is getting tremendous air
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cover from the White House, and at other times, it looks like we're going back and working with big
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pharma, like there's no harm, no foul. So can you just walk us through what you see covering your day
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to day as what's going on? Absolutely. No, and I think that's such an interesting dynamic as you broke
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it down there, because we really have seen the president at times take these maybe seemingly
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contradictory approaches when it comes to vaccines. Obviously, he was the one who was pushing
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Operation Warp Speed, you know, developing the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, and yet we saw him in the
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Oval last week come out very forcefully in a way that I know surprised me. I think it surprised you.
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It surprised a lot of folks in the Maha movement who are just not expecting the president to go there.
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You know, of course, the president sort of has these longstanding, you know, skeptical views of
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vaccines that he's expressed in the past. So it wasn't wholly, I think, unusual to see him come
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out and say those things in the Oval Office. But to your point of really, he out, Bobby Kennedy,
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Bobby Kennedy, because, you know, you have Bobby Kennedy in there in the Oval saying, you know, hey,
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you know, we think there might be some concerns with Tylenol, you know, pregnant women should not be
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taking it because, you know, we have concerns this leads to autism spectrum disorder. And then you have
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Trump going in there and just saying, you know, I think the shot should be broken up. I don't think
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you should take the hep B vaccine until 12. I mean, these are not things that even Bobby,
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Bobby Kennedy. No, no, no, no, no. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on,
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no, no, hang on. He says, and very endearing. He says, you got the little baby sitting there and
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you have a vat. He called it a vat. He's a very visceral, visceral, yeah, very visceral imagery. I mean,
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the president loves an image, right? The image of like the baby being pumped full of vaccines. He
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also likes talking about the horse shots, right? It's all this very visceral imagery. And this is
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something the president has talked about for a long time, right? So no surprise in one sense that
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he's talking in these visceral terms. But you have to remember that Bobby Kennedy's own, you know,
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panel of picked vaccine advisors, like you mentioned with Dr. Malone on it, did not even vote to make
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these recommendations that the president was making. So in some ways expected, in some ways
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out of left field, but I think sort of scores with the president's, you know, own belief about
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vaccines, which is that, you know, he said that he likes vaccines. He has concerns about them being
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administered all at once, about babies receiving so many shots all at once. So I think in my mind,
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I sort of see it as a breakdown between the timing of the shots versus the shots himself. And then also,
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I think the president's concerned about the freedom of parents to make their own decisions
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What do you, where do you think we stand right now then with the policy rollout of what we can
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anticipate? Because the president said, I think three or four times on that, in that meeting,
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he's essentially staking his, so personal to him from friends he knows, et cetera, they staking
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his presidency on the successful outcome of understanding of autism and vaccines and maybe
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getting the schedule right, but doing it correctly. That is about as high a stakes as you can get
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coming from President Trump. So where do you think we stand in this whole thing?
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Yeah, there's, I mean, I think there's a couple really interesting sort of touch points that I'm
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keeping an eye on, you know, right now. We're, we're at this moment where we're waiting to see
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actually what Bobby Kennedy and what his acting CDC director, Jim O'Neill, what they do with those
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ASIP recommendations. Of course, they don't actually have to follow them. There's not a
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ton of precedent, though there is precedent for the CDC director to make sort of a different
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decision than ASIP recommends. So, so now that President Trump has given this air cover, you
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know, they, they very well could go in and make recommendations beyond what ASIP said. So that's
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one big thing we're watching for. And the second is to see what happens with this vaccine injury
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compensation program, which is going to be a key thing, I think, for a lot of folks in the Maha movement.
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Is that, is the report scheduled to, it hasn't come out, the big autism report was supposed to be
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the 28th, but I think that's still, that's been delayed, correct? That's correct. Yep. We had this
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one Tylenol announcement. We expected maybe that we would get more by the end of September, but,
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but now we're waiting to see more to come out of HHS. We did not get that official report by the end of
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September, like, like had been, uh, said before. Megan, how can people follow your, uh, reporting?
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Where do they go on social media? Where do they go over at Politico? Yes, we're at politico.com and
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you can find me on X. I'm just at Megan Messerley. Thank you, ma'am. Appreciate you. Thank you.
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The Daily Mail's, the Daily Mail's U.S. editor, a blockbuster story that wasn't really tipped
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yesterday, but it's the lead story in the Daily Mail. Uh, I believe it is as close in a formal
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process that President Trump and the second president term has come to talk about kinetic
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war. There was a briefing on Capitol Hill yesterday. I think that was done so they could get around the
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war power, any imposition of the War Powers Act. This is what's happening in the Caribbean and maybe
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potentially in northern Mexico against the drug cartels. With President Trump's, uh, administration,
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his Department of War, being very adamant that we're at war with the cartels. And that includes
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Okay. The Daily Mail is the largest, I think, paper in the world. It's the most read website. They have
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a massive U.S. operation, plus U.K. and the world. It's something we go to a lot because they're very
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quick at breaking important news. And you can kind of tell by the traffic they get on certain stories
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what drives the news cycle and what doesn't. I'll be honest, kind of a shocking story today,
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a scoop getting from Ross Ibbotson, the editor, U.S. editor of the Daily Mail.
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This headline is the story that the senior executives from the Department of War went to Capitol Hill
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yesterday with others to brief Congress on what they're calling a beginning of a kinetic war
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against cartels. And those cartels would be from South America, basically,
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seems like Venezuela, all the way up through Mexico. Is that what you're reporting showing?
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Correct, Steve. We're reporting that they've declared war on these drugs cartels,
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and they are citing international war, calling it a non-international armed conflict,
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which basically says these are non-state actors, but we're at war with them because
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they represent a deadly risk to United States citizens.
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So this would not be something I would think that the Trump administration, given the way
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they're rolling, on their interpretation of Article II powers, of which we're a huge advocate of,
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the very aggressive President Trump's approach on Article II, on his Article II powers,
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particularly as commander-in-chief. Was this requested by people on the Hill? Did Pete Hex and
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these guys volunteer? Did Stephen Miller volunteer? I mean, how did this even come about?
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Well, that's not actually clear yet. The White House hasn't responded to my request or comment
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on that yet. But it does follow complaints by Democratic and also some Republican lawmakers
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that these strikes require the ascension of Congress under the War Powers Act, although that has been
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ignored on numerous occasions before, including by Barack Obama in Libya and Bill Clinton in Kosovo.
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But yes, it does appear that the Trump administration is trying to provide an ironclad
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legal framework where they can push forward with this military action, basically, against the cartels from South America.
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And this, I guess, was driven by the fact that we do have an amphibious readiness group
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in the Caribbean, off the coast of Venezuela, and we have 4,000 fleet Marines that are there.
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Is that what drove this? Plus, they've taken out, I think, three different vessels now
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over a period of a couple of weeks. Is that what the primary concern was and why they went in there
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Yeah, I think so, because Congress has been raging about the, as you say, the three strikes last month,
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all of them deadly. One of them was against Trem de Aragua. The other two weren't specified.
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And in their memo to lawmakers that didn't specify any particular terrorist organization,
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we're asking for clarification on that. And it doesn't name Venezuela either. I suppose they're
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concerned that they would be concerned about naming Venezuela. They obviously don't want to get
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drawn into a broader conflict here. But as we know, Trem de Aragua is the notorious cartel which
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took over apartment buildings in the US, so certainly seem to be using force on American soil,
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although Democratic lawmakers say that the trafficking of drugs doesn't constitute use of force.
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So they've said, hey, it's Venezuela, but they're not, they're not, quote unquote,
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going after Venezuela. They're going after a drug cartel that's a non-state actor. We're at war with
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these non-state actors, whether it's Trem de Aragua in Venezuela or the Sinaloa cartel in northern
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Mexico. But we're going to war, and in this case, kinetic, against these drug cartels. Is that
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essentially the case that the Trump administration is making? Exactly. Yeah. They're not singling out
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any particular cartel, but they're saying that because fentanyl is so deadly, it kills thousands
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of Americans, that they're justified in their use of basically wartime deadly force against these
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groups. Now, they said that they previously called it self-defense, but this memo to Congress appears to
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go further, where they're saying these attacks on the boats are not isolated, but they're consistent
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with a sustained active conflict. And they say that because these groups are so sophisticated,
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they're so well armed, that they're able to act with impunity without the use of military force.
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So as we've seen, they've been using drones to carry out these strikes, much to the annoyance of the
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So Rick Grinnell and Marco Rubio, Secretary of State Rubio, have kind of been at this with
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Grinnell basically positing there's a diplomatic way or negotiated way, particularly around the
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resources down there and American companies and involvement to get around this. What does your
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reporting show you that how much of this was driven by Marco Rubio, Secretary of State, who seemed to
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take a big interest in this and is on Fox all the time, I think kind of teeing up like you teed up
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the Iraq invasion, teeing up a actual military invasion of Venezuela. How big a part of this briefing
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was either Marco Rubio or his deputies over at the State Department?
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I'm not, I'm not sure as to what Rubio's involvement would have been in it, to be honest, Steve.
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Did, did, what's the, did you get any feedback? The White House has not commented on this.
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What feedback did you get, although, and not commenting on it, they haven't come out and denied it.
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What, what feedback are you getting from Capitol Hill about the presentation itself?
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Well, the White House hasn't, didn't, didn't get back to us, but they have, they have reiterated
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their position, I think, to the New York Times, and they're saying that this is it, this is in
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in line with the law, but like pretty vague. I kind of get the sense that some of them were caught
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a little bit by surprise today, and they weren't exactly abreast of what the Pentagon was doing on
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Capitol Hill yesterday. But yeah, that remains to be kind of, to be worked out, still trying to
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Ross, where do people follow you to, we always send people to the Daily Mail every day, but
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where do people, this story is very big, and it's quite controversial. There are, there's
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not an insignificant amount of the MAGA movement that's saying, hey, hang on, we, we got to
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take care of the drug cartels. Maybe fentanyl is coming up more through Mexico, and we ought
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to be taking care of the Mexican cartels, and their partners in the Chinese Communist Party,
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then down in Venezuela, worried about cocaine in Maduro. But, so this is going to be very
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controversial for, not just between Democrats and Republicans, or between the House and
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the, in the White House, but also internally to the, to the MAGA movement. Where do people
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go? What's your social media? Where do people go to follow this more?
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So, obviously, DailyMail.com, but also, but just by searching my name, Ross Ederson, on
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Twitter and Instagram as well. Thanks very much, Steve, for having me, by the way.
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Ross, thank you so much. Keep, uh, Daily Mail is a must-read every day.
00:24:52.700
Um, this is why I think yesterday, uh, was so, it was historic, obviously, in the fact that
00:25:00.160
everybody came together, every flag officer came together, which we've never done since
00:25:06.220
the founding of the Republic. Um, it wasn't, and Pete's talk at the beginning, I think,
00:25:12.380
was necessary and had to be done, and obviously very serious, a different, uh, and particularly
00:25:16.320
his, his focus on the, was it ferocity and precision, the way the American military is going
00:25:23.140
to fight wars and win wars. We're not in this just to play patty cake or play defense, or,
00:25:27.880
as President Trump said, no games. But I felt that the President's speech, and the President
00:25:34.640
covered a number of topics there, and obviously his haters were very critical, although I thought
00:25:39.320
it was a historic speech, and I thought it was a historic speech because the buried lead
00:25:42.600
had to deal with, uh, what happened in Portland last night with the National Guard, what happened
00:25:48.240
in Memphis yesterday with the Attorney General, uh, the Secretary of War, and, uh, President Trump's
00:25:53.640
chief advisor on domestic policy, Stephen Miller, who's also very involved
00:25:57.340
in national security because now it comes here, and President Trump's saying,
00:26:01.520
hey, we got to worry about the evasion here, enemies within, uh, that the military is going
00:26:05.920
to be called out for, uh, and under emergency measures. Part of that's obviously, uh, this,
00:26:11.740
this war against the cartels, which we've advocated very strongly for from the beginning.
00:26:17.100
In fact, uh, when they sent the troops down to secure the southern border, which they've done
00:26:20.700
so magnificently and needed to be done for years and years and years, uh, we said when,
00:26:25.940
remember they had the, the 10 or 15,000 back in, I think, April or May, we felt at the time
00:26:31.740
there'd be a perfect time to put Mexico on notice and go do a kinetic strike, uh, with
00:26:36.760
the labs, particularly the fentanyl labs, which are just sitting there in northern Mexico as
00:26:40.440
easy targets. Uh, they did have, uh, they did have, I think it was CNN had a, uh, one of the
00:26:46.580
cartel members on for an interview last night. And he said, Hey, it's so much harder to get
00:26:50.000
drugs here to hear our human trafficking. Now that president Trump's in charge. I mean,
00:26:54.140
they admitted it's tough. They would seem to be the likely targets, right? Because particularly
00:26:59.360
they're actively in business with the Chinese communist party on the fentanyl trade. Now
00:27:03.100
in Latin America, you know, Maduro is a bad guy. The people around him are bad guys. But when you
00:27:09.020
have a amphibious readiness group down there, that's a different level. I mean, that is like
00:27:13.700
big time kinetic warfare. You got 4,000 sailors and Marines. You got a bunch of fleet Marines.
00:27:18.440
You got people ready to go hit the beach if necessary. And of course, yesterday, and we
00:27:23.200
still don't know Ross's, Ross's thing. I think he said it was, you can imply that people in Capitol
00:27:28.120
Hill are nervous and president Trump wants to make sure that there's no, uh, coming and trying to chop
00:27:33.620
block going to court to stop this. He wants to get ahead of it. And so huge news that they basically
00:27:39.580
said, we have declared war on the drug cartels from Latin America. It looks like all the way up to
00:27:46.020
Mexico. And, uh, you heard Pete Hegseth tell him when we go to war, we go with a ferocity and precision
00:27:52.700
to go in and fight it and end it. So people should, uh, I think, uh, stand by for some, uh, kinetic
00:28:00.780
activity around the war on the cartels. Want to thank Ross Ibbotson and the Daily Mail for joining us.
00:28:06.820
Short commercial break. Phillip Patrick, gold is on fire. The question is, why is it on fire?
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Uh, so, um, I think I had you on here last time, Philip Patrick. Goal was at 37. No, I'm just
00:30:48.860
kidding. Uh, what you did though on the Saturday show, I've gotten tons of feedback and I want
00:30:54.000
to go back through that. And here's the reason. As we've been covering this with you for four
00:30:58.620
years now, the end of the dollar empire and the pressure on the dollar, the budget deficits,
00:31:03.120
all that. Goal was at 1100, today through 3900, but every day kind of goes up, backs off a little
00:31:08.740
bit, then goes up some more. I tell people it's the process, not the, not the price. You brought up
00:31:15.300
something last week about the central banks, particularly given, and folks, this is driven,
00:31:20.800
always driven by war. Given the economic warfare component of the war with Ukraine and Russia,
00:31:27.200
that the $350 billion in assets that essentially the West is going to steal because France and
00:31:34.860
Germany and England don't, and Italy don't have any money to put up for Ukrainian defense. And
00:31:39.560
Zelensky is talking about 90 to a hundred billion dollar arms deals. They're going to take the
00:31:43.740
Russians money that were in these money center banks. And it's basically all in Euro that the
00:31:49.000
central banks now are saying, well, hang on for a second. Should I reserves just be Euro or dollars,
00:31:54.100
or maybe we should add something and they're adding gold. And this is one of the reasons they're
00:31:57.440
buying at record rates besides the bilateral trade deals you talked about on the de-dollarization
00:32:02.560
movement. I've got an article, if Mo and Grace can get it up. There's a Bloomberg article
00:32:07.260
that mentions the fact, I think there's 17,000, is it 17,000 hedge funds in the United States?
00:32:18.440
And there are only 14,000 McDonald's. There's more hedge funds than McDonald's.
00:32:22.420
One thing I can tell you, knowing a bunch of hedge fund guys, and they never did this in
00:32:26.760
the past, part of the money that they, because they draw down, they don't get all the cash
00:32:32.360
from people. They raise a billion dollars. You don't get the billion dollars. You do it
00:32:35.320
on calls on deals. They're putting a bunch of their kind of reserves or what they're sitting
00:32:39.900
on in gold. Hedge funds, and particularly as they multiply so much, there's only so many
00:32:45.420
investment opportunities. They're buying gold and seeing on that. And of course, it's had a
00:32:50.140
historic run. This is another fundamental structural change, potentially, to the demand
00:33:00.040
Yeah. I mean, there was a lot to unpack there. So first of all, as you rightly point out, what
00:33:04.780
we've been doing, and it was predominantly the previous administration, you mentioned weaponizing
00:33:08.860
our dollar against Russia. We have disincentivized the world through policy to hold the dollar,
00:33:15.780
through weaponizing it against Russia. If I'm China, that's a concern to me, right? I want
00:33:21.300
to diversify. But also through devaluation of currency as well. One of the benefits of
00:33:26.980
the US dollar relative to other currencies was stability. It was that, along with the petrodollar
00:33:33.180
that cemented our position as global reserve. With huge money printing, massive quantitative
00:33:38.520
easing, that stability argument's gone out the window. And I think the world are waking
00:33:43.660
up and de-dollarizing at a rapid pace. And it is not slowing down at all. Gold buying set
00:33:51.280
another record for the third quarter of this year by central banks on the back of a six-month
00:33:57.560
record in the first six months of this year. As we've said on the show, we mentioned on the
00:34:02.140
Saturday show as well, gold has now become the number two global reserve asset. It's 20%
00:34:09.940
of global reserve currency today. It takes up a larger share than US debt, which we haven't seen
00:34:17.780
in a long time. But as I mentioned, I think this is a trend that's going to continue. I think we're
00:34:22.820
reverting back to where we used to be in the 80s, where gold was about 70% of global reserve. Ultimately,
00:34:30.500
I think the trust has been broken. And it's just one drama after another after another. Now we have a
00:34:37.360
government shutdown. I mean, trust has been broken, and the world's waking up.
00:34:44.520
Do you think this, the 80s is when the kickoff for massive globalization, do you think this is a
00:34:49.940
leading indicator that we're going to live in a post-globalization world with supply chains,
00:34:54.820
everything that people are going to be, as we've been advocating, I mean, we're a huge advocator of
00:34:59.220
it. But is this gold now going back and looking like it could be, I mean, 20% is shocking, I think.
00:35:07.360
But do you think it could get to 30%, 40%, 50%?
00:35:11.040
I think not only it could, I think it will. The trajectory, look, something dramatic is going
00:35:16.900
to happen domestically to make the dollar look attractive again. It's going to take a miracle,
00:35:22.500
right? Right now, I just don't see it on the horizon. So where does it end? I don't see China
00:35:28.400
reverting back to trading in US dollars again. I don't see Russia, sorry. I don't see China
00:35:35.280
increasing dollar reserves. I see them reducing significantly. 50% of China's transactions now
00:35:41.520
internationally bypass the dollar. They are in yuan. That was unheard of. So yes, I think this is a
00:35:48.300
trend that's going to continue. And you rightly point out, I think what we've been seeing,
00:35:54.180
this has been happening for a while, but the end of this sort of post-World War II era of
00:35:59.360
globalization. And I think when the trust disappears, trust in money disappears, central
00:36:04.980
banks turn back to gold. And as you rightly point out, we're seeing things that we just would never
00:36:10.860
have predicted a few years ago. Huge institutional demand, not only from central banks, but from
00:36:17.480
investment firms, from PE funds. They weren't looking. They were looking for returns three,
00:36:22.700
four, five years ago. You didn't consider gold for that. Today you do. So you put it as a structural
00:36:29.120
change. And I think it's the best way to put it, a reversion perhaps.
00:36:35.620
What, how do people work? Now we've got end of the dollar empire. We're coming at,
00:36:40.380
we got seven free installments. We're doing a physical copy of it. We're going to do hopefully
00:36:44.000
some events this fall. We're coming out with eight and nine, really off. Eight is going to really be
00:36:49.100
off your guys reporting of the rear reset in the, in the, in the bilateral deals.
00:36:54.800
What do you tell people now when they come and say, Hey, I I've never done physical gold before.
00:36:59.560
You know, I'm not a gold bug. And I keep saying, uh, Ray Dahlia, Steve Bannon and Philip Patrick
00:37:04.500
and our gold bugs. I was never, I mean, I was, came out of Harvard to Goldman Sachs. If you talked
00:37:09.480
about gold, they thought you're a wing nut, right? Investment banking in the eighties, nineties,
00:37:14.420
and the double aughts were, were all about, uh, globalization, all about maximum maximization
00:37:20.340
of shareholder value. And gold was looked at as an archaic relic from a time going by,
00:37:26.240
right from a time going by. And now it's such a key asset for central banks. And that asset,
00:37:32.500
that asset shift, particularly reserves is not just shocking. It's a wake up call and people
00:37:37.920
ought to focus on that. Um, so what do you tell clients when they come to you today? Cause I want
00:37:42.400
to make sure as many people, we never tell you to buy gold here. Okay. It's not our job to do that.
00:37:47.840
What we try to do is give you access to information so that you can learn yourself what the pattern
00:37:52.640
recognition is. But what are you telling people now when they, when they come to you, how should
00:37:56.780
they think about this? Listen, first of all, the end of the dollar empire series, I don't think
00:38:02.360
has ever been as pertinent as it is today. So first of all, everybody needs to read that.
00:38:08.220
Then they're going to have an understanding of why we have the bubbles we have, why the debt has
00:38:13.700
exploded, how the federal reserve are culpable. That's going to give them understanding of the
00:38:18.340
big problem, debt, deficit spending, borrowing costs. In understanding that in the context of
00:38:25.340
history, I don't need to tell anyone to buy gold, right? They just need to understand the issues.
00:38:30.780
And I think ultimately they'll lead themselves there. So contact us. It's birksgold.com
00:38:36.380
forward slash Bannon, get the information, read it. If you need anything from there, we're here,
00:38:42.700
call us. You'll have people like myself that are there to guide you through, explain everything,
00:38:48.180
but you have to get reading. It has never been more important than it is today ever. So birksgold.com
00:38:55.420
forward slash Bannon, and just immerse yourself in the information because if you do, and if you can
00:39:01.220
understand it, the solutions will present themselves.
00:39:06.780
You know, we just had Ross Ibbotson, the editor, the U.S. editor for Daily Mail, and you could tell
00:39:11.320
a pretty button-up guy's hair is not on fire. When they're reporting that the Trump administration
00:39:16.620
is on the Hill to kind of make sure they're ahead of any kind of claim of the War Powers Act,
00:39:22.220
but they're saying, we are in a kinetic war with the cartels, and we're going to ramp it up.
00:39:28.100
That tells you that geopolitically, we live in an age of uncertainty. Now, President Trump's
00:39:33.720
mindset is, I'm going to take care of this now. I'm not going to wait. We're not kicking the can
00:39:38.640
down the road. People have BSed us enough. The only thing they understand is force,
00:39:42.520
and I'm going to deliver it. But I will tell you, the geopolitical risk, when you look at the risk
00:39:47.620
calculation, increases every day. As President Trump tries to change the global commercial
00:39:53.220
relationships, right, and also geopolitically, right, these kinetic wars on the Eurasian landmass,
00:39:59.980
now you've got them here in the Western Hemisphere. Folks, you know, we don't know how this is going to
00:40:05.840
turn out. President Trump, I think, has a very well-thought-through plan, as we try to reiterate
00:40:09.820
every day, but the law of unintended consequences. That's why the geopolitical risk, Philip, on top of
00:40:16.560
what's happening in the world's capital markets and financial markets about the attraction to gold,
00:40:21.260
part of that is not just the weaponization of the U.S. dollar, right, of which, by the way, I've been
00:40:26.760
an advocate of, if done smartly, right, but I think some of the nations of the world are saying, hey,
00:40:31.340
we want to be out of the American sphere. We don't trust MAGA. We don't trust Trump. We just don't
00:40:35.420
trust the Americans overall. The other is this situation now with the cartels. When President Trump
00:40:40.140
goes to Capitol Hill and makes a detailed presentation and basically tells them, we're at war,
00:40:45.060
we're at kinetic war, we're not going to tone it down, we're actually going to ramp it up,
00:40:49.160
that's when I think people got to sit there and go, okay, maybe I'm looking for a hedge for times
00:40:54.940
of financial turbulence for a while, because it's not going to get less turbulent. You saw that in
00:41:00.040
Portland last night. You've seen this in the presentation we covered live in Memphis, Tennessee.
00:41:05.040
You heard today about this talk in Chicago, and now we know on Capitol Hill, they're going to war
00:41:09.940
with the cartels, or according to the Trump administration, we're at war already with the cartels.
00:41:15.320
Philip Patrick, leave you on geopolitical risk. Thank you for being with us. Where do people go one
00:41:20.400
more time to get you, sir? Really simple, birchgold.com forward slash Bannon. Again,
00:41:26.320
birchgold.com forward slash Bannon, or they can reach me at Philip Patrick on Getter.
00:41:31.760
Thank you, sir. I appreciate you. Thank you, Steve. Great sponsors. Allowed us to do,
00:41:39.980
they're such great guys, allowed us to do the entire Charlie Kirk, 10 or 11 hours without
00:41:45.060
commercial interruption. I don't know if we can talk about it yet. I'm looking at my producer.
00:41:49.080
I'll find out during the break. If everything comes together, we're going to have a very
00:41:54.900
special, we're going to have a very special war room presentation with Real America's Voice
00:41:59.580
for, I think, our third Sunday in a row. I guess we skipped the Sunday. We had the memorial service
00:42:06.820
at the prayer vigil at the Kennedy Center for Charlie Kirk. Then the following week, we had the amazing
00:42:11.640
memorial service this Sunday from 10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time to 5 p.m. I'll be hosting a special
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on Real America's Voice here for those seven hours, dealing with the 250th, essentially,
00:42:26.040
anniversary of the birth of the United States Navy. President Trump is going to actually go
00:42:31.120
participate, I think, in some naval exercises off the coast of Virginia. And I can tell you,
00:42:36.620
I think they're going to be amazing. So we've got Jack Posobiec is going to be involved in this.
00:42:41.460
We've got the entire Real America's Voice team. Of course, the war room. I'm going to have all
00:42:47.840
folks from the Navy, national security experts. You do not want to miss this. From 10 a.m.,
00:42:53.080
starting at 10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time Sunday, not our Saturday show. Our Saturday show will go on
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as is, all the way to 5 p.m. The President of the United States is going to go to Norfolk, Virginia,
00:43:03.200
my hometown, I guess where I was born. I guess my hometown is Richmond, where I was born,
00:43:08.280
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00:43:15.480
go there. He's going to go out to the fleet. He's going to spend the day, early part of the day,
00:43:19.080
afternoon with the fleet and fleet operations. Then he's going to come back and address a crowd
00:43:24.760
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00:43:29.700
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I also want to go back and talk about President Trump and what he's taken on. I mean, it's seven
00:45:02.380
days a week. Charlie Kirk flies out, does a great speech. He sits there and watches everybody,
00:45:09.060
watches the event, was there for at least half of the event, flies back, don't get back to the
00:45:13.580
middle of the night. Next day, hitting it. Next day, I think they had the Bobby Kennedy,
00:45:18.020
the situation. Just every day, it's the scale of it, the urgency of it, and the scope of it is
00:45:22.920
unprecedented. Even journalists I know that are not fans of his are saying there's never been a
00:45:30.300
presidency like this in nine months, ever. This is more intense than FDRs, much more intense,
00:45:35.820
not just because of social media. What he's doing is so monumental. Is all of it perfect? No. Do you
00:45:43.020
love all of it? No. But the 90% that you love is just, it's unprecedented. Now, this naval exercise,
00:45:51.080
this is another thing, all day Sunday. He never takes a day off. Remember, he doesn't drink. He's
00:45:57.140
never done drugs. He basically works. This is one of the things I was most impressed when I first got
00:46:05.140
to really know him and work side by side or work for him. It is one of the most intense work
00:46:11.040
experiences you should ever see. He is always on. And these aren't small problems. Remember,
00:46:15.760
any tiny problem, any solve a problem, it doesn't get to the Oval Office.
00:46:20.140
What he's doing now is Herculean. It's every major, massive issue in this country
00:46:26.840
and in the world. Changing the world order, he is. The post-war international rules-based order
00:46:33.420
will never revert back to the globalization. Are the globalists still going to fight us? Are they
00:46:38.740
still going to fight us? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. It's never, it ain't over until it's over.
00:46:45.400
But what he's doing, then when they came to us the other day and posted it, it's going to,
00:46:48.680
and I said Sunday, and I love it. It's so great. It's such a way to honor the Navy.
00:46:53.420
And they're doing it a little short of the 250th anniversary, but it's just so amazing. And this is
00:46:58.460
the way he thinks. He wants to do something special. He wants to honor the Navy and the traditions and
00:47:03.100
customs of the Navy. And as you know, the Navy and the Marine Corps are so custom and tradition
00:47:09.120
because it came kind of from, we were sprung from the Royal Navy, people that had, you know,
00:47:14.740
been associated with it. And the customs and traditions there and the Royal Marines the same
00:47:20.040
way. That's why the United States Marine Corps and the United States Navy are the way they are.
00:47:24.160
And for him to take an entire day and no rest, and this is going to be incredible. And he's in
00:47:31.420
the middle of it. And I think that his enemies sit there and criticize him, but they're overwhelmed by
00:47:37.660
it. One of the reasons they can't stop it, it's a force of nature. It's a force of nature.
00:47:43.980
I'm telling you, like General Washington and Lincoln, and I say this not as a Trump guy and work
00:47:49.940
for Trump and a MAGA guy. It's not that. It's the cold observance of history. He's the third in line
00:47:58.620
of the great world historical figures we had. And people say, you've got to include FDR in that.
00:48:03.200
I don't. Those three are at a different level. General Washington at the birth of the nation,
00:48:11.220
Abraham Lincoln at the rebirth of the nation, and President Trump at the rejuvenation
00:48:15.180
of this country, in the salvation of this country, of what we had, a constitutional republic,
00:48:21.000
based upon the values of the Judeo-Christian West and really an American civilization.
00:48:29.180
That's what he's fighting for. And he's leaving it all in the field, all of it. I've never seen
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anything like it. If you look at the pressure, you look at the intensity, you look at these issues.
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I mean, on an off day, he's negotiating. On an off day for him, he's negotiating the government
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shutdown with clowns like Hakeem Jeffries and Schumer. I mean, come on. It's a clown show.
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Unbelievable. So all day, 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. on Sunday, and it will be so special. You're going
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to want to see it. Of course, we're going to tee it up on Saturday. The Saturday show will be Jack
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Posobiec will be with the president, and I'll be anchoring the broadcast, and we're going to have
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tons of gas. You're not going to want to miss it. Plus, I think you're going to see some guns,
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some missiles, some jets. I think we're going to have some activity. President Trump's going to
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basically do Teddy Roosevelt. Go review the fleet, and it's just incredible. I couldn't be prouder.
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Mike Lindell. Brother, people are so impressed when they sit there and go, Mike, if you could grovel
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and go to systematic and say, hey, I didn't mean it. I was just kidding. And they would say, fine,
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no harm, no foul. Let's move on. You're not going to do that, are you, sir?
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we'll see you tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock in the 10 o'clock hour. Or maybe the 11 o'clock hour.
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