Bannon's War Room - October 04, 2025


Episode 4827： Lead Up To Navy's 250th Anniversary; Peace In The Middle East


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

167.94266

Word Count

9,184

Sentence Count

666

Hate Speech Sentences

35


Summary

Learn English with President Donald J. Trump as he arrives in Virginia aboard a mighty U.S. aircraft carrier to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the birth of the United States Navy and a massive naval exercise taking place off the Virginia Capes tomorrow.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 This Sunday at 10 a.m. Eastern, history sets sail.
00:00:06.140 I'm going to have all folks from the Navy, national security experts, you do not want to miss this.
00:00:11.660 President Donald J. Trump arrives in Norfolk, Virginia, aboard a mighty U.S. aircraft carrier.
00:00:18.860 Fight, fight, fight, win, win, win.
00:00:21.360 As America celebrates 250 years of Navy power, brace yourself for missile launches, roaring jets, thunderous firepower, and the full force of America's sea strength on display.
00:00:36.780 Hosted by Steve Bannon with live reporting from Jack Posobiec and Steve Gruber, Real America's Voice brings you this front row seat to freedom in motion.
00:00:46.000 It's not just coverage, it's a celebration of America's might.
00:00:50.280 This Rav presents America 250, sea power and freedom.
00:00:55.440 Coverage begins this Sunday, 10 a.m. Eastern.
00:00:58.260 See you there.
00:01:01.760 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:01:07.080 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:01:11.960 Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:01:16.460 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:01:18.440 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:01:19.540 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:01:22.500 It's going to happen.
00:01:23.760 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:01:27.160 MAGA media.
00:01:28.500 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:01:33.900 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:01:37.720 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:01:43.880 Here's your host, Stephen K.
00:01:46.840 It's Saturday, 4 October, Year of Our Lord, 2025.
00:01:56.440 We kick off a very special weekend tomorrow from 10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time all the way to 5 and maybe even later, if it goes that long.
00:02:05.760 We will be commemorating and observing the 250th anniversary of the birth of the United States Navy.
00:02:13.620 And President Trump, it's a little earlier than the date, but that's because President Trump's available to go and review the fleet.
00:02:21.700 And a massive naval exercise will take place off the Virginia Capes tomorrow.
00:02:26.900 We're going to cover it.
00:02:28.120 Start to finish, our own Jack Posobiec will actually be with the President.
00:02:33.080 Steve Gruber will be on one of the combatants.
00:02:36.380 And we'll have, you know, 10 to 15 experts, analysts, observers to walk through naval strategy, geopolitics, the state of the United States Navy, all of it tomorrow starting at 10.
00:02:51.840 And we're going to just have an incredible cruise, Captain Sean Spicer.
00:02:55.360 Actually, Sean Spicer is going to be sworn in as a captain on Tuesday back in Washington, D.C.
00:03:03.780 So we'll have Captain Sean Spicer, we're going to have Eric Prince, I think Captain Fennell, we'll get Captain Fennell on.
00:03:11.100 The entire crew that normally does national security here at the War Room, plus many others, specialists in naval warfare.
00:03:20.340 Admiral Masso will join us, Admiral Hall, a bunch of folks.
00:03:23.440 You don't want to miss this tomorrow.
00:03:25.200 Very special.
00:03:26.000 And I want to thank our first guest this morning, and always an honor to start the show with Ambassador.
00:03:33.180 Ambassador, Monica Crowley.
00:03:34.580 First off, Ambassador, what a whirlwind you guys have been on.
00:03:40.140 I've never seen anything like it.
00:03:42.020 It's just absolutely extraordinary.
00:03:44.740 And the job you're doing is incredible.
00:03:47.280 But the President of the United States never takes a day off.
00:03:50.200 I mean, on the one day he could get off, he's going to be spending all day with the Navy, which I know they love it, out to review the fleet.
00:03:57.040 And as you know, he's a huge fan of Victory at Sea.
00:04:00.520 He knows that Samuel Elliot Morrison was a 10-hour documentary film by Hart.
00:04:07.880 And I know he's really looking forward to the mark.
00:04:09.700 Can you walk us through what this is part of?
00:04:11.260 I think this is Navy 250, but part of overall America 250.
00:04:15.520 Can you walk us through what it is and where are we in this commemoration and celebration of America's 250th anniversary?
00:04:22.560 Ma'am?
00:04:22.820 Yes, of course.
00:04:24.760 It's great to see you, Steve.
00:04:26.300 Great to be with you, my friend.
00:04:27.780 Thank you so much for having me on this very special weekend.
00:04:30.940 You are exactly right that President Trump is superhuman.
00:04:34.700 He has superhuman energy.
00:04:37.040 No days off.
00:04:38.180 And in addition to my day job of being America's ambassador and chief of protocol of the United States, which is a 24-7 job because every world leader wants to come in and see President Trump.
00:04:51.660 They all love him.
00:04:52.620 They all want to have face time with him.
00:04:55.080 And my office and I and I have got an extraordinary team.
00:04:57.720 We handle all of those diplomatic engagements for the president, the vice president, and the secretary of state.
00:05:03.840 But in addition to that day job, the president has also honored me and blessed me with a position as his administration's representative for all of the big U.S.-hosted events, including America 250, but also the FIFA World Cup we have coming next year and the 2028 Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
00:05:25.040 I haven't even had time to think about the Olympic Games yet, Steve.
00:05:29.200 But all of these great big U.S.-hosted events are coming down the pike, and we are now in the midst of America 250.
00:05:37.060 What you saw back in June was the first of several military anniversaries that the president is absolutely intent on celebrating because America's greatness, America's superpower status, none of that would be possible without 250 years of America's military status.
00:05:55.040 So back in June, we had Army 250, and you saw that spectacular military parade.
00:06:01.840 Tomorrow, we are going to be celebrating Navy 250.
00:06:05.560 And I know how much this means to you personally, Steve, as a former naval officer.
00:06:10.880 We are going to put on quite the celebration for you, for everybody who's put on that naval uniform over the last 250 years, for the American people, and really for a truly global audience.
00:06:22.760 Here's what we've got prepared.
00:06:24.860 You saw what we did with the Army.
00:06:26.860 Well, for the Navy, it's that in the water and more.
00:06:31.000 So we are going to have about 20,000 sailors present.
00:06:35.520 We are doing this at Naval Station Norfolk, as they say, Norfolk.
00:06:39.840 We are going to have the USS George H.W. Bush, which the president is going to be on.
00:06:46.620 We're also going to have the USS Harry S. Truman.
00:06:49.820 And a lot of the celebration is going to be taking place on the Truman and also on the pier.
00:06:56.860 So we've got about 20,000 sailors coming.
00:06:59.920 We're also going to have ships of all kinds.
00:07:02.240 We're going to have submarines, including nuclear submarines.
00:07:05.840 We are going to have naval aircraft, including a lot of top gun flyovers, which are going to be spectacular.
00:07:12.340 We're going to have special operations forces and units on the scene.
00:07:16.580 We're going to honor our active duty, of course, our veterans.
00:07:20.820 And we're going to have Gold Star families present as well.
00:07:23.700 The president and the first lady will both be there, as well as the secretary of war, Pete Hedseth, and the secretary of the Navy, John Phelan.
00:07:32.740 I'm also honored that they have asked me to speak prior to the president coming to the podium.
00:07:37.680 So I'm really looking forward to that.
00:07:39.560 It is going to be a landmark celebration, Steve, to honor and celebrate and tout 250 years of American naval supremacy, naval dominance, naval might.
00:07:54.060 And we're going to put on quite a show.
00:07:58.580 No, I can't tell you.
00:07:59.720 People in the Navy couldn't be prouder of this moment.
00:08:03.280 And, of course, you guys helping put it on.
00:08:05.640 And we just hope – I know that the Navy is going to shine.
00:08:09.580 The Army was fantastic.
00:08:11.060 That parade was amazing, particularly not just simply the marching and reviewing the troops, but the materiel that came up and had that great – look, 30 to 45 minutes of just the greatest equipment that the Army has.
00:08:26.900 The Navy, I'm sure, sure will yesterday.
00:08:28.620 What is the – I know this is going to be a naval exercise, and I don't want to give too much specifics on the president's schedule.
00:08:35.380 But are you going to have the big event and speak first?
00:08:38.200 Is that going to come later?
00:08:39.380 Is the naval exercise in the middle of it?
00:08:41.940 Have you guys worked that out yet?
00:08:44.300 Yeah, so the run-up show – and I know you're coming to air here tomorrow at 10 a.m.
00:08:48.680 The run-up show really begins around 11 a.m. noon, and there are going to be live fire exercises.
00:08:55.360 So you're going to see ships of all kinds engaged in naval exercises, including aircraft.
00:09:02.060 Naval aviation is going to be very prominent.
00:09:05.840 And as Jack Posobiec mentioned here yesterday, you're going to be able to see it up and down the eastern seaboard.
00:09:11.860 The entire Atlantic test range is going to be involved in these live fire exercises midday tomorrow.
00:09:19.300 And, of course, the president is going to be aboard a carrier ship.
00:09:24.360 We're going to have an entire carrier strike group present.
00:09:27.380 He's going to be aboard for this.
00:09:29.540 So what the general public and the people present tomorrow at Naval Station Norfolk is going to be able to see,
00:09:35.440 they're going to be able to see essentially what the president is going to be seeing right there on the carrier battleship.
00:09:43.700 So the entire thing that's going to be aired, and you'll be able to see it here, of course, on Real America's Voice,
00:09:49.600 but also at whitehouse.gov if you want to stream it.
00:09:52.860 You'll be able to see up close and personal in real time what the president is seeing aboard the ship.
00:09:58.880 And then he's going to come back to land, and he is going to speak to the nation and everybody assembled,
00:10:05.400 touting the tremendous successes throughout history, Steve.
00:10:09.800 And you know this very well, all of the victories at sea that the United States Navy has achieved
00:10:16.460 from the Barbary Wars, which was really our first naval successes under President Thomas Jefferson,
00:10:23.060 all the way through to today and what we are doing around the world.
00:10:27.000 It is going to be spectacular.
00:10:30.560 No, we couldn't be more excited.
00:10:32.320 Tomorrow morning we kick off our coverage at 10 a.m.,
00:10:36.280 and we literally have like 10 to 15 of the best, smartest analysts, naval strategists,
00:10:43.720 folks that are operators in the Navy, Special Forces, a couple of Navy SEALs,
00:10:48.000 Eric Prince and Tej Gill will join us, some operators, and we're going to have just,
00:10:52.220 it's going to be spectacular.
00:10:53.320 We can't be more excited.
00:10:54.540 Ambassador, I don't want to put you on the spot, but you were aide-de-camp for Richard Nixon.
00:11:03.440 I think along with President Reagan, considered the two greatest geopolitical thinkers as far
00:11:12.280 as dealing with great powers, and you learned at his hand.
00:11:18.040 Can you put in perspective what President Trump has done over the last seven or eight months,
00:11:23.900 culminated in obviously a very difficult situation in Israel and Gaza,
00:11:28.680 but looking like making huge progress?
00:11:30.320 Can you just put it in perspective, given your understanding of Richard Nixon's view of the world?
00:11:36.560 Yes, and thank you for that question, Steve.
00:11:38.640 It's a really important one because I think a lot of people miss the historical context
00:11:43.920 of what President Trump is doing because he's doing so much day-to-day at a breakneck speed
00:11:49.700 that is very hard to keep up with, and those of us in the administration have a hard time
00:11:55.120 keeping up with everything that he is doing and achieving.
00:11:58.540 First of all, I worked with President Nixon during the last years of his life.
00:12:02.320 I was not born when he was elected president, just want to clarify that.
00:12:06.360 But I did work with him and talk to him about his presidency very often,
00:12:10.940 and I wrote two best-selling books about my experiences with President Nixon and those conversations.
00:12:16.620 And look, he was a true visionary, and by visionary, I mean one of the rare American leaders
00:12:22.700 who can see what the world is going to look like 20, 30, 40 years down the road
00:12:27.280 and make American policy in office to anticipate that world.
00:12:33.040 We've had a few visionaries as president, and I think Donald Trump is certainly one of them.
00:12:37.860 Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, you go back to FDR even, they achieved so much in the first 100 days
00:12:45.300 of their presidency, the first year of their presidencies, frankly, throughout their presidencies.
00:12:50.960 Historic achievements.
00:12:52.400 In Nixon's case, you had the opening to China.
00:12:55.240 You had detente with the Soviet Union.
00:12:57.300 You had Middle East shuttle diplomacy.
00:12:59.960 You had domestic, trying to bring the economy back in various ways.
00:13:05.660 You had the counterculture revolution that was happening underneath him, and of course,
00:13:10.020 the Vietnam War, which defined his entire presidency.
00:13:13.820 And still, he was able to achieve an enormous amount.
00:13:17.180 Donald Trump is that on steroids.
00:13:20.760 Every day is a massive, earth-shattering policy or initiative that is changing the trajectory
00:13:28.440 of the country back to its foundational principles, as well as changing the trajectory of the world,
00:13:35.600 because now you have strong American leadership.
00:13:40.960 Ambassador, social media, where do people get you at America 250 and over as your day job
00:13:47.160 as head of protocol for the United States government, social media, ma'am?
00:13:50.680 Sure, sure, yes.
00:13:52.400 On X and True Social, I am at Monica Crowley.
00:13:55.620 And on Instagram, I am at Monica Crowley underscore.
00:14:01.540 Ambassador, thank you so much for joining us today on a Saturday to kick off the weekend
00:14:05.540 of commemoration celebration of Navy 250.
00:14:08.320 Thank you, ma'am.
00:14:08.840 It's going to be very special.
00:14:15.680 And I think just like we did the Army celebration, we'll put in perspective where we are with our uniformed services
00:14:23.020 as an amphibious readiness group is off the coast of Venezuela.
00:14:28.260 And the president's team has briefed the Senate and saying,
00:14:32.940 hey, we're at war with the cartels, with non-state actors in Latin America, Central America, and Mexico.
00:14:40.620 We'll leave you here with anchors away.
00:14:42.200 We'll be back in a moment.
00:14:43.280 Fred Flights, former chief of staff of President Trump's National Security Council.
00:14:48.340 And Kurt Mills, the great Kurt Mills, will join us next in the war room.
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00:16:54.320 Hamas said today that it agrees to release all Israeli hostages,
00:16:58.460 a major part of the president's peace plan for Gaza.
00:17:01.680 Hamas says it is ready to immediately enter into negotiations to discuss the details of
00:17:06.280 the deal.
00:17:07.020 The president released a statement saying the following, quote,
00:17:09.820 I believe they are ready for lasting peace.
00:17:12.100 Israel must immediately stop the bombing of Gaza so that we can get the hostages out safely
00:17:16.800 and quickly.
00:17:17.900 Next week marks two years since those hostages were taken by Hamas during its attack on Israel
00:17:23.180 that also left more than a thousand dead.
00:17:25.520 Tens of thousands of people have died in Gaza since then.
00:17:28.800 Key part of that headline there that you just showed, Steph, is pending conditions.
00:17:32.260 This is known in the Middle East as the yes, but response.
00:17:37.060 And I think it is an important moment, perhaps an opportunity, as I know millions of people
00:17:44.980 around the world would hope that it is an opportunity for peace.
00:17:48.220 But what it is right now is a yes, but.
00:17:50.520 And it suggests that Hamas is willing to go into negotiations that might establish the conditions.
00:17:56.720 It's not clear yet from their statement exactly which parts of the 20 point peace plan they
00:18:01.620 agree to, which they don't.
00:18:03.160 They did say they're not ready to release the hostages under the 72 hour time clock that
00:18:08.640 was initially mentioned as part of President Trump's proposal.
00:18:12.040 But I do think that this response from Hamas combined with President Trump appearing to accept
00:18:18.240 it now puts a lot of pressure back on Israel and its prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.
00:18:23.820 How will they respond?
00:18:27.220 OK, we've got Fred Flights and Kurt Mill.
00:18:29.440 So, Kurt, I'll start with you.
00:18:31.960 The Reporting Times, there's reporting that Whitcoff is headed to Egypt to that resort there
00:18:39.060 on the on the Red Sea.
00:18:40.920 And where are they going to negotiate this or work out the terms of of of actual doing the
00:18:46.100 transition, Israel sending one of their their ambassador that's very close to Netanyahu.
00:18:54.520 He's going.
00:18:55.540 So it's the most it's the most senior level to do this.
00:18:58.480 Plus, President Trump put out a true social that ordered Israel to stop bombing.
00:19:04.100 Right.
00:19:04.600 Which is interesting that you've got to order them because once again, just like in the in
00:19:08.860 the Iranian situation, they're going to they're going to continue to bombing until you tell
00:19:12.620 them to stop or in Trump's case, order them to stop.
00:19:16.960 Netanyahu put up a post, correct me if I'm wrong, last night, basically conceding he was
00:19:23.520 going to do this.
00:19:24.980 The Times of Israel and the Jerusalem Post are both reporting that he ain't happy about
00:19:31.060 it.
00:19:31.220 But he feels that the people around him feel that Trump has him boxed in and he's got to
00:19:37.520 do this.
00:19:39.320 However, correct me if I'm wrong, you just informed me he took it down overnight.
00:19:43.440 And it's saying it was taken down by the author, his his his tweet showing that he was going
00:19:50.780 to comply with this, sir.
00:19:53.240 That appears to be the case.
00:19:54.800 I mean, this is from his office.
00:19:56.180 So it's put out, you know, like this would be like the White House's account.
00:20:00.340 So it shows this and it does it's down now.
00:20:03.640 I don't think this is a grand surprise because we can see who the Israeli prime minister's
00:20:09.160 allies, what they've been saying late Friday night, early Saturday morning in Washington
00:20:14.700 about this.
00:20:15.860 They've been complaining about it.
00:20:17.080 They've been saying the president has made a mistake.
00:20:19.200 He said that no deal's been inked.
00:20:21.660 They've been overtly threatening Hamas, which, you know, not nice guys, but they are the
00:20:26.100 people that want to do the deal.
00:20:27.380 And it's very clear they're unhappy.
00:20:29.660 Netanyahu doesn't have to say it.
00:20:32.140 His surrogates in the media and in politics can say it.
00:20:35.040 And Lindsey Graham, the president's good friend, and of course, the unchallenged America first
00:20:40.760 senator, he himself was whipping against the deal as soon as it was it was assigned.
00:20:45.180 You saw it in the president's West Wing address, the Oval Office address.
00:20:48.800 He looks happy and he highlighted a number of countries in the region, including Egypt,
00:20:54.200 Qatar, Jordan and on.
00:20:56.020 And he did not single out Israel.
00:20:57.460 So it appears to be a redux of really where we were before the spring and for the summer,
00:21:01.480 which is that the president was willing to work with everybody in the region.
00:21:04.600 But Israel is not getting any special privileges.
00:21:07.280 And we've seen this show before, even before the president was sworn in.
00:21:11.240 Witkoff did a deal that created a ceasefire in the war and Israel broke it in March.
00:21:16.600 And so this is another example of the president's instincts towards peace and not being a supplicant
00:21:23.000 of a foreign power.
00:21:23.840 But look, here, here, here's, here's the, and this falls directly on the shoulders of Lindsey Graham
00:21:33.480 and Tel Aviv Levin and this crowd of Israel first.
00:21:36.640 They brought this on because, uh, their, uh, their promotion of Netanyahu and blind loyalty
00:21:43.780 to Netanyahu and not what was best for Israel.
00:21:46.000 Cause you're having a situation now, correct me if I'm wrong, you call it what you want.
00:21:50.080 But this, um, and by the way, Hamas has to go through and remember, they're just a, they're
00:21:57.060 the franchisee of the Muslim brotherhood.
00:21:59.020 They always snatch, they have a tendency to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory all
00:22:03.380 the time.
00:22:04.160 Very tough to control.
00:22:05.440 Although the president's united, at least the Gulf Emirates and the Arabs more than Lawrence
00:22:10.900 of Arabia in this matter.
00:22:12.380 And also the attack of Netanyahu on Qatar, uh, and Qatar, I think are terrible guys, right?
00:22:18.540 They're the financiers of, of, of the Muslim brotherhood.
00:22:21.200 But what you have is Gaza is a proto-Palestinian state.
00:22:25.960 You're going to have the Gulf Emirates led by Qatar finance this.
00:22:31.500 No Palestinians are leaving.
00:22:33.480 Uh, I think the way it reads, you're going to have an Arab security force, right?
00:22:37.820 And obviously Hamas lays down their arms and all that gives up their military operation.
00:22:43.260 But you have a Palestinian, you're going to have a proto-Palestinian state in Gaza, in
00:22:48.480 the territory of Israel, number one.
00:22:49.740 Number two, uh, unlike the Israel first crowd was bragging the other day about Judeo-Samaria,
00:22:56.720 it absolutely forbids any, any, um, any Israel, uh, takeover or intrusion with the settlers
00:23:04.720 in the, uh, in Judeo-Samaria.
00:23:08.380 Uh, so that's off the table.
00:23:09.900 And they're talking about adding the Persians or the Iranians to the Abraham Accord.
00:23:14.740 So the greater Israel project crashes and burns.
00:23:18.580 Why?
00:23:19.360 Because of the American sponsors of Netanyahu.
00:23:22.420 And I told you this was going to happen and now it's happened.
00:23:25.320 Okay.
00:23:25.700 And they can spin it any way they want to spin it and they can try to kill it any way they
00:23:29.080 kill it.
00:23:29.640 President Trump's not going to let this be killed.
00:23:31.640 This was a master stroke, a master stroke.
00:23:34.580 I've never seen anything.
00:23:35.640 This is one of the most impressive, uh, turn of events I've ever seen from any president
00:23:41.780 of the United States.
00:23:42.760 It's incredible.
00:23:43.800 This, I almost put in the same level of Nixon in China, not quite, but, uh, and of course,
00:23:50.280 President Trump's got a couple of things he's working on in Ukraine and, uh, with the CCP.
00:23:54.640 But Kurt, am I wrong in that?
00:23:55.960 Is that the Israel first, uh, sponsors, cheerleaders, promoters led this.
00:24:01.960 And you're going to have to understand Netanyahu's visit the other day was a humiliation.
00:24:05.960 Let me be specific.
00:24:07.700 It wasn't just his arrival, which was like an Uber driver, picking up a, uh, picking up
00:24:13.260 a, uh, a fare with no color guard, et cetera.
00:24:16.900 When Netanyahu came out and lied about what the apology was to Qatar, I just, all I did
00:24:22.300 was apologize for killing the security guy.
00:24:24.280 The white house immediately put out that photograph of Netanyahu reading the document
00:24:30.060 that was, that was given to him by Witkoff and Kushner the day before with a full apology
00:24:36.340 with the president of the United States holding the phone and giving him the look that only
00:24:40.660 Trump can give you and him like, uh, you know, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, a, uh, uh, vassal
00:24:46.200 state reading the apology.
00:24:47.640 And so finally they are acting like a protectorate and this is what president Trump has gone
00:24:53.080 to in the Israel first crowd.
00:24:55.020 You have nobody to blame, but yourself for this situation.
00:24:58.520 You have a Palestinian, you have a two state solution for all the people supported Israel
00:25:03.060 for so many years and said, we can't have a two state solution.
00:25:06.200 You have a two, you can call it anything you want.
00:25:09.360 When you've got the Arabs financing it, when you have an Arab security force in Israel on
00:25:15.760 Gaza, it's, that's the proto-Palestinian state.
00:25:19.660 And when you have any, uh, any involvement or any expansion to the West bank or Judea Samaria
00:25:25.020 blocked, and you're going to add Iran to the president Trump's openly talking, I want to
00:25:31.520 add them to the Abraham accords.
00:25:33.660 The greater Israel project is over.
00:25:36.180 It crashed and burned because of the American sponsors that cheerleaded on Netanyahu and didn't
00:25:43.480 take the warning from people who said, Hey, if you keep doing this, you keep blindly
00:25:48.100 backing this guy, it's all going to crash around you.
00:25:51.340 And it has crashed around you.
00:25:52.740 Now, Kurt Mills, where am I wrong in that assessment, sir?
00:25:57.520 I don't think you're wrong on, on most of any of it.
00:26:00.680 Um, I would say the, the key reality is if it holds, which is the, always the boring answer
00:26:05.780 on this.
00:26:06.220 I spoke with at some length with a long time Israel-Palestinian negotiator, uh, late last
00:26:12.160 week or late this week.
00:26:13.200 Um, and, you know, we were kind of going back and forth on it and, you know, Tony Blair
00:26:17.060 was all over this proposal.
00:26:18.380 And so we were both kind of like, ah, I don't know if this is going to really going to work.
00:26:21.660 And then it sort of occurred to both of us that actually, uh, the Palestinians may call
00:26:25.960 the Israelis bluff.
00:26:26.860 Why not accept it?
00:26:28.100 Uh, if this is actually a deal on offer, they can take it.
00:26:31.480 And it's a pathway, uh, for them to potentially keep their lives and their people stay in their
00:26:36.960 land.
00:26:37.380 And sure enough, that's what happened.
00:26:39.360 And the bluff was called and the Israelis are utterly panicking.
00:26:43.860 And, you know, people, uh, who don't share the perspective that I have, uh, that the Israelis
00:26:48.720 are asking for way too much, that the Israelis are trying to dominate our politics, that the
00:26:52.460 Israelis, uh, will never stop if we don't stop them, frankly, uh, are, they act like
00:26:57.780 this came out of a void.
00:26:58.980 This came out of nothing.
00:27:00.260 Uh, the reality is that this has hijacked and sabotaged President Trump's presidency.
00:27:05.360 This is all we are talking about.
00:27:07.200 And, you know, as much as I like to talk about Middle East issues, uh, it's not terribly
00:27:10.880 great for the United States that all we are talking about is a foreign country's problem.
00:27:15.400 What I said, what I, what I said, the national conservative, yeah, what I said, the National
00:27:19.200 Conservative Convention, just like in the seven pillars of wisdom, when the generals schooling
00:27:24.900 T.E.
00:27:26.320 Lawrence, he said, Hey, the, the Middle East is a sideshow to the main event, the Western
00:27:32.000 Front in the Arab revolt is a sideshow to a sideshow.
00:27:35.360 That's exactly where we are today in American geopolitics.
00:27:38.680 The Middle East is a sideshow in the Israel situation is a sideshow to a sideshow.
00:27:44.100 No doubt.
00:27:44.920 What galls me is the cheer is the cheerleaders, the cheerleaders who followed Netanyahu because
00:27:51.820 he's doing it for his own political concerns, not for the defense of Israel.
00:27:55.180 And now you are where you are.
00:27:56.900 And I don't get me wrong.
00:27:58.500 Hamas are as bad as they get right.
00:28:00.420 The Muslim Brotherhood is as bad as they get.
00:28:02.200 And Qatar is, I think, worse.
00:28:05.380 But you've got to face certain political and geopolitical and financial realities.
00:28:10.160 Okay, short break.
00:28:11.140 Kurt's going to stick around.
00:28:12.220 Fred Fleiss is going to join us.
00:28:13.800 And we're also going to expand it.
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00:30:55.960 And then tomorrow for seven hours, maybe longer if it keeps going.
00:30:59.320 We'll have to see.
00:31:00.660 Interesting thing about tomorrow, it's supposed to end at 5 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time tomorrow.
00:31:07.300 And at 6 p.m., the president gave Hamas the other day a play me a trade mate.
00:31:12.140 He said, hey, the deadline's six, you're in or you're out.
00:31:16.260 And if you're out, that's fine, but all hell will break loose.
00:31:19.480 Now they're heading towards the resort on the Red Sea in Egypt, which I think is pretty close to Aqaba,
00:31:28.120 which was Lawrence of Arabia's great victory with the beginning of the Arab revolt with Faisal's army and others.
00:31:35.900 Fred Flights, you're an old hand at this.
00:31:39.420 Walk us through, first off, the scale.
00:31:42.960 I mean, I think people who haven't worked this problem for decades don't understand the scale of this solution is pretty breathtaking.
00:31:51.260 Is it not, sir?
00:31:52.840 It is.
00:31:53.600 And I said in an American Greatness piece yesterday that this peace plan Trump put forward,
00:31:58.020 this 20-point peace plan, really is a masterpiece because he has the Israelis and the Arabs
00:32:03.660 and the Palestinian Authority endorsing it, which is really unprecedented.
00:32:07.940 And he did this because he has language in there that Israel would never have accepted before,
00:32:12.920 and that is it contemplates a role for the Palestinian Authority for governing Gaza,
00:32:17.560 and it said there may be a future pathway for a Palestinian state.
00:32:21.700 These are phrased as distant aspirations when the Palestinians de-radicalize,
00:32:26.100 but it is unprecedented that Israel would accept that, and they accepted it grudgingly.
00:32:30.620 But just that language got the Saudis and the Palestinian Authority on board.
00:32:35.060 This leaves Hamas with nowhere to go, that they don't want to accept this deal.
00:32:39.440 They don't have any allies.
00:32:41.060 Having said that, Hamas's response is a clever no.
00:32:44.900 They have not agreed to disarm.
00:32:46.380 They have not agreed to destroy their weapons.
00:32:48.280 They have ruled out the idea of an international force governing Gaza,
00:32:51.460 and they're basically putting themselves in a position where they're dangling the idea of releasing the hostage up front
00:32:58.720 so when the U.S. and Israel reject this deal, and they may have to, they will be blamed.
00:33:04.200 It's a clever rejection, but the beauty of the Trump plan is that the world can move on without Hamas in rebuilding Gaza.
00:33:11.860 It has provisions that areas that have been cleared of terrorists will start to be occupied by this international force
00:33:20.100 where rebuilding will begin.
00:33:21.940 Trump's not going to let Hamas continue to have a terrorist veto.
00:33:26.320 He's not going to let Israel occupy Gaza.
00:33:29.360 It's a brilliant plan.
00:33:30.540 It certainly qualifies Trump for the Nobel Prize,
00:33:33.240 and it may provide a model for solving other difficult disputes such as Ukraine.
00:33:40.060 Fred, for the audience and for me, help me out.
00:33:43.500 How does, the sponsor here is Qatar.
00:33:46.040 How does Hamas have even flexibility when they're going to be cut off of money?
00:33:50.100 Qatar wants to make this deal, you can tell, or at least on the surface.
00:33:53.540 How can Hamas expect to operate if Qatar and UAE and the Saudis are adamant that we've got to bring this thing to a close
00:34:03.800 and we're prepared to pull up the money and even put up the security guarantee as far as troops go to oversee it?
00:34:09.540 How does Hamas say no to that?
00:34:12.180 They really can't.
00:34:14.440 They have nowhere to go, and they're not going to get their funding from Iran either.
00:34:18.180 Hamas will eventually become an irrelevant party.
00:34:22.660 I mean, it's going to be a movement.
00:34:24.120 It's going to be a terrorist movement that will probably be around for a long time.
00:34:27.560 There's lots of terrorist movements that are still active,
00:34:29.840 even though they were set back substantially for U.S. military action.
00:34:33.920 But with the Arab states united in ending this conflict,
00:34:37.020 they think Hamas is an annoyance also.
00:34:38.980 I think we could have a glide path to peace because of Trump's stubborn determination to stop this war.
00:34:45.700 In the law of unattended consequences,
00:34:51.560 how did Netanyahu and his sponsors here in the United States get into a situation where they're going to have a proto—
00:34:58.340 because if this deal closes, you have a two-state solution, right?
00:35:02.020 You have the Arabs financing, the Arabs securing a significant part of Israel that is essentially under—
00:35:10.380 you can call it what you want, but it's under Arab control.
00:35:13.760 You've blocked, really, the Judea-Samaria expansion, and President Trump—
00:35:18.780 if that all happens, President Trump will work like crazy to add the Iranians into the Abraham Accords.
00:35:24.580 How does a group that was adamantly opposed to all of that end up in a situation where this is the deal that is—
00:35:34.440 Trump's kind of told them, hey, this is the deal.
00:35:37.180 And remember, he didn't have Netanyahu opined to this thing.
00:35:40.820 Netanyahu had made some changes about the withdrawal schedule, but he wasn't looking for his opinion.
00:35:45.500 How did they get themselves in that situation?
00:35:47.420 First, let me say, Iran's not going to be part of the Abraham Accords.
00:35:51.800 That's just not going to happen.
00:35:54.480 And this whole process is going to be overseen by a board of peace that President Trump will be in charge of.
00:35:59.800 This is not going to be run by the Arabs.
00:36:01.840 There will be an Arab force in Gaza.
00:36:04.180 There also will be European states.
00:36:06.060 I think there's concern, and the concern you raise is significant.
00:36:09.200 But let's keep in mind that Israel wants to endorse a two-state solution.
00:36:12.360 And if the Palestinians can be de-radicalized, and that's required under the agreement to have a Palestinian state, Israel might be able to accept it.
00:36:21.820 That was its position a long time ago, certainly before the October 7th attack.
00:36:26.880 So, I mean, there's a lot of conflicting opinions here.
00:36:30.220 A lot of it is still driven by the aftermath of the October 7th attack.
00:36:33.760 But I think we could be close to peace because of what Trump has been putting forward.
00:36:39.420 Let's go back to the board of peace.
00:36:41.400 I don't know if President Trump's the chairman, but he's got a couple of three-day jobs, right?
00:36:45.300 And I understand he's the board of peace.
00:36:46.900 But the guy running it is Tony Blair.
00:36:50.000 Correct me if I'm wrong.
00:36:51.020 Is Tony Blair not on the payroll of Qatar to like $20 million a year, sir?
00:36:55.700 Tony Blair is a lackey for UAE, for Qatar.
00:36:59.320 He's been over there sucking down cash.
00:37:01.620 He's essentially an Englishman representing the Arabs.
00:37:05.440 Am I incorrect there?
00:37:07.480 Well, you have information on Blair that I don't know.
00:37:09.880 But if Trump is not running it, I imagine he's going to have Secretary Rubio or another prominent senior American national security official be his proxy.
00:37:20.360 It's not going to be run by Tony Blair.
00:37:21.860 Okay, you know Hamas as well as anybody.
00:37:26.340 What's the Fred flights Saturday morning for October, so before the 6 o'clock deadline tomorrow?
00:37:33.820 What's the probabilities?
00:37:36.220 What's your percentage of probabilities that Hamas, they're going to negotiate now in Egypt at this resort on the Red Sea?
00:37:44.840 What is, I think, Dermer's there representing Netanyahu.
00:37:49.280 Of course, he's Netanyahu's right-hand man.
00:37:51.640 Witkoff's there.
00:37:52.960 I know Qatar's going to have people there.
00:37:54.900 I'm sure Hamas have people there.
00:37:55.980 What's the probability this closes along the lines as stated today?
00:38:00.740 I mean, this process first shows that Trump didn't immediately reject Hamas's answer.
00:38:07.100 He's giving them an opportunity through diplomacy to show he's willing to deal.
00:38:11.060 Maybe there's some elements of the plan that could be modified to get Hamas to come on board.
00:38:15.980 I don't know what they are, but I think Trump's a dealmaker.
00:38:18.760 We know that.
00:38:19.740 But I'm afraid because of Hamas's hatred of Israel, hatred of Jews,
00:38:24.220 I think the chances of them agreeing to this, something that Israel can agree to, is probably 10% or less.
00:38:32.800 Wow.
00:38:33.660 Kurt Mills, observation, thoughts.
00:38:36.040 I know you have a different perspective, but I also ask you for the probability.
00:38:39.680 Along the general lines that we have today, this deal closes, as is.
00:38:44.960 I think we're going to get a deal this weekend, base case.
00:38:47.600 I put it over 50%.
00:38:48.800 The president is excited about this.
00:38:50.600 And I think the reality is that Hamas, it can't be two things at once.
00:38:55.580 It can't be this all-powerful, all-menacing terrorist organization
00:38:59.980 and a decimated military force that is a, quote, annoyance to the Arabs.
00:39:04.580 The reality is Hamas has a few cards, to use the president's terminology.
00:39:08.580 But basically, the moderate wing of Hamas has been in control
00:39:12.080 because the Israelis have assassinated them all in the last two years.
00:39:15.720 And I think we are reaching up, you know, days from the two-year anniversary of October 7th.
00:39:22.200 And for the Israelis to basically sabotage yet another deal, I think would be really a bridge too far.
00:39:28.780 I think we will have something inked, base case.
00:39:30.920 I don't rule out that the Israelis can sabotage it before 6 p.m. on Sunday.
00:39:34.820 But I think it is, at this point, unlikely because of how publicly happy President Trump is with the results here.
00:39:41.220 I think we will get something.
00:39:42.280 And then the open questions will be, how does this look?
00:39:45.020 How does this look?
00:39:45.700 How does this look?
00:39:46.680 But again, yes, the president may chair this board.
00:39:50.080 And here's where I agree that, you know, he's got a lot of things going on.
00:39:53.280 What are the U.S. interests in this region?
00:39:55.540 I mean, we're talking about a pathway towards demilitarization of the most radical arm of the Palestinian cause.
00:40:02.220 We're talking about something that has broad regional buy-in.
00:40:05.760 And we're talking about a pathway towards, you know, ending wars in the region and getting the U.S. out militarily.
00:40:11.820 I'm inclined to agree that something like Iran joining the Abrahamic Force is unlikely.
00:40:16.980 But that being said, ruling it out, I mean, the president's instincts here, he just moves the oversaw window.
00:40:23.020 Why not have a conversation like that?
00:40:24.860 Why does it always have to be regime change, regime change, regime change?
00:40:28.660 Iran's a complex country.
00:40:30.380 I'm not really sure we should be picking winners and losers in any country, especially in the Middle East.
00:40:35.380 Oh, oh, oh.
00:40:36.980 I think President Trump is, people understand, when he said the total obliteration at the end of the 12-day war, there's not going to be any regime change.
00:40:44.880 Everybody, and that's another of the Israel First Crowd's fantasies.
00:40:49.660 It's not going to happen on Donald Trump's watch.
00:40:51.280 He told you for the 12-day.
00:40:54.000 And Netanyahu now coming up and said, well, we never really planned to have total obliteration.
00:40:57.400 I want to cry.
00:40:58.020 Everything comes out of his mouth is a bald-faced lie, one of the most dangerous individuals in the world.
00:41:03.360 If we need regime change, you ought to use this deal to have regime change in Jerusalem and get some people in there that can deal straight with the Americans.
00:41:10.420 And the Israel First Crowd is as much to blame here as Netanyahu.
00:41:15.640 Fred, let's say even 10%.
00:41:18.260 This week, make the case for Donald Trump as the recipient and the awardee of the Nobel Peace Prize, sir.
00:41:28.300 I would make that, and I'd also mention some things with Kurt that I agree with.
00:41:33.180 Remember Trump's speech in Saudi Arabia that America should not have permanent enemies.
00:41:38.180 He wanted peace through strength and commerce.
00:41:40.500 This was a message both to Iran and to China and to other adversaries that we don't want to be at permanent war with these nations.
00:41:46.780 We don't want to have people who are constantly planning military action or overthrowing regimes.
00:41:54.180 Trump does not want to do that.
00:41:55.300 I agree.
00:41:55.640 That's not going to happen in this administration.
00:41:57.560 But I think the outline of this Gaza peace plan is more than sufficient to qualify Trump to get the Nobel Peace Prize.
00:42:05.500 And as I said earlier, regardless of whether Hamas accepts it, there will be peace in Gaza.
00:42:10.240 It will be rebuilt, hopefully with Hamas's cooperation.
00:42:13.640 But the world is going to move on regardless of what Hamas decides.
00:42:17.460 Fred, can you hang on for a second?
00:42:21.840 And Kurt, I want to get to some concerning developments in the kinetic part of the Third World War on the Eurasian landmass.
00:42:30.220 Yes, in the bloodlands, that would be Ukraine, which I think is 10 times more dangerous than what we're dealing with in the Middle East.
00:42:35.260 And Kurt, I will tell you, and I'm going to get your answer on the thing.
00:42:38.100 I think that they look at major business and financial relationships with Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar.
00:42:45.640 I think it's just been a sea change.
00:42:46.900 I agree with Brother Flights.
00:42:49.980 I think when President Trump, that meeting they had this year was quite different than the meeting we had in the opening six months of the first term.
00:42:57.720 I just think it's a total sea change.
00:43:00.300 And Qatar, of which I'm not a fan of and still say that, hey, they're the railhead of the financing of the Muslim Brotherhood,
00:43:07.020 whether you like it or not, they're a major player.
00:43:09.420 Anyway, short commercial break.
00:43:10.600 We're going to pivot to Ukraine.
00:43:14.020 President Trump this week, I agree with Fred.
00:43:16.900 If anybody ever deserved a Nobel Peace Prize for what this man has taken on and tried to solve is incredible and solved,
00:43:24.440 or at least laid the framework for making it plausible to solve.
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00:47:07.240 Go do it today.
00:47:09.040 Fred, you wrote this, talk to me about this brilliant piece.
00:47:15.100 You're saying, hey, any escalation, anything of these advanced weapons systems, advanced weapons systems that can hit long distances, sharing of intelligence, and maybe even targeting acquisition by the United States would be a massive escalation in Ukraine.
00:47:30.960 Give us your assessment as we sit here today with President Trump spending his time now trying to sort this mess out in Gaza.
00:47:37.780 What is going on in Ukraine, and why are you sending up a flare to say, I don't think people are paying enough attention to this, but we could be slipping down, we could be sliding down the road to perdition here, sir?
00:47:50.760 Steve, I want to first thank you for having me on today.
00:47:52.680 This has been a great discussion.
00:47:53.860 There's talk right now that Zelensky wants to acquire U.S. Patriot cruise missiles.
00:47:59.560 They have a range of 1,500 miles.
00:48:02.660 The Ukrainian border is about 500 miles from Moscow.
00:48:05.440 This would allow Ukraine to destroy buildings in Moscow, including the Kremlin.
00:48:10.120 There's talk of giving Ukraine other long-range missiles and intelligence to strike deeper into Russia.
00:48:15.440 And this leaves us to ask the question, when is the U.S. crossing the line between providing defensive support to Ukraine to kick the Russians out of Ukraine and going to war with Russia?
00:48:29.740 I think giving patriots to Ukraine would constitute going to war with Russia and will result in Russia taking appropriate responses, possibly firing missiles into NATO countries.
00:48:41.100 I don't think anyone's thinking this through, the implications of giving such a major military capability to the Ukrainian army.
00:48:48.960 And look, I like Ukraine.
00:48:50.100 I want Ukraine to win.
00:48:51.560 They're not going to win back most of their territory.
00:48:53.840 I think we may be able to get an armistice if Trump continues to press forward with economic and energy sanctions.
00:49:00.200 But letting Ukraine escalate the war, greatly escalate the war like this, I think will have far-reaching consequences that could start a much larger regional war.
00:49:11.100 Okay, walk me through it.
00:49:12.780 President Trump would say, hey, Fred, I hear you, but I've been over backwards.
00:49:16.440 I went to Alaska.
00:49:17.400 I've tried to do everything possible to get Putin on board here.
00:49:21.940 And for whatever reason, his relationship with the Chinese Communist Party, the fact that Germany and Western Europe still buys only gas from him, they don't seem to want to come to a situation where we can have a discussion about maybe going back to the original, you know, they keep the Donbass in the eastern Russian-speaking regions in Crimea.
00:49:43.340 But he's not even prepared to have that discussion, it appears.
00:49:47.100 President Trump's bent over backwards.
00:49:49.180 So what would you—President Trump is saying, hey, I've tried everything.
00:49:52.160 I need some piece of—look, I agree with you 100 percent.
00:49:56.200 But I think the counter-argument, particularly people around Trump, are saying you've done everything.
00:50:00.400 You need another part of leverage.
00:50:02.080 He's insulted them, a true social.
00:50:04.520 Your army's nothing.
00:50:05.680 This should have been done in three weeks.
00:50:07.860 You're not a superpower.
00:50:11.000 Isn't this looked at as a point of leverage for the president to basically warn we're going to give Tomahawks and Patriot missiles to Ukraine and potential targeting information, which I agree with you, would make us a combatant, right?
00:50:25.560 I happen to think we're a combatant now because what's happened out of Wiesbaden, where essentially the CIA and other guys are running this war, and that's how you had the deep strike with the drones into Russia.
00:50:37.640 But what would you tell the president?
00:50:39.140 He's going to say, Fred, I hear you, but I can't get this guy to the table.
00:50:43.400 Steve, you and I know that God created us with free will, and we can use that free will to make good decisions or bad decisions, to pursue good or evil.
00:50:51.180 Trump really did go out of his way to create off-ramps and an opportunity for Putin to do the right thing.
00:50:57.480 He's decided to do the wrong thing because his fanatical views about NATO and Ukrainian nationality and all kinds of nonsense we've heard spout it.
00:51:05.900 But the next step is to put pain on Putin to bring him to the negotiating table, to get past this unreasonable line of thinking.
00:51:13.180 That's why I think crippling economic sanctions and energy sanctions, that's what we have to do, not escalate the war.
00:51:20.060 Now, Trump's not going to give patriots and tomahawk missiles to Putin.
00:51:26.060 He's too smart for that.
00:51:28.080 I do think he's going to give additional military support to Ukraine, but there's going to be a limit.
00:51:33.340 Trump doesn't want to escalate to the point where we're looking at a regional war or a world war.
00:51:38.340 But Trump also wants Europe to play its part.
00:51:41.360 Europe bought $1.8 billion in energy from Russia last year, and they're not going to stop until 2027.
00:51:48.220 Europe has to help and has to initiate secondary sanctions, as we do, so they don't swoop in and take advantage of economic opportunities when we're sanctioning nations to end the war in Ukraine.
00:52:00.180 Europe has to be part of this.
00:52:02.000 They have to stop lecturing Trump about being too close to Putin and doing serious things to stop the war.
00:52:07.800 Fred, what's your social media?
00:52:10.860 Where do people get your writings, American Greatness, all of it?
00:52:14.440 You can go to X or to different other accounts, at Fred Flights, and our website is americafirstpolicy.com.
00:52:22.800 Perfect.
00:52:26.040 Thank you, sir.
00:52:26.560 Appreciate you taking us Saturday and joining us.
00:52:30.440 I'm going to pose upon Kurt Mills to stick around for a few minutes.
00:52:34.600 Also have Mark Krikorian, CIS, and updates on the left's meltdown on Project 2025 and Russ Vogt and the team that are running this government shutdown.
00:52:47.720 All next in the War Room.
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