Episode 4868： Weaponization Of Science： Flaws & Fraud In Research
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Learn English with Donald Trump. President Trump speaks about the impact of the government shutdown, the need for the National Guard to respond to emergencies, and why he thinks the government should have the right to use the National Guards in response to domestic emergencies.
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funding bill for the furloughed employees. It's not going to pass Katie most likely that's Ron
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Ron Johnson of Wisconsin's bill a bill that he's introduced in past shutdowns which would pay for
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you know effectively pay for federal employees who are otherwise furloughed. I don't think that's
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going to pass. We just reported John Bresnahan just reported he that Chris Van Hollen who
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represents Maryland a huge obviously a huge hub huge bastion of federal workers is going to put
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out his own bill that does something similar which to me signals that the under that the Ron
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Johnson bill is not going to pass. Democrats rather complaint is that the the Ron John bill
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provides a slush fund of sorts and the president can decide who he wants to pay and who he doesn't
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want to pay. Now I personally do question whether there is some risk in opposing that. The president
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is taking questions right now we're going to do a hard cut and we'll pick up the show when the
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president's finish. A comment and a question please for you. First of all you have just one billion plus
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hearts around the globe including in India by celebrating the Diwali in the White House right
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here. And my other comments is Mr. President. I like his question already. In February you and the
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White House staff welcomed gave a warm welcome to the Prime Minister of India Mr. Narendra Modi and after
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that I decided to make a short trip to India for you how popular you are in India and I went there in a
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a holiest also festival there. Millions of people were there and also Prime Minister Narendra Modi was
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addressing a media event 5000 people. I was one of them there listening to him and when I went to
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several states in India what I found out Mr. President three people are most popular there. Prime Minister
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Prime Minister Narendra Modi, President Donald Trump, Mr. Kash Patel and also with a surprise
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our White House Press Secretary Carolyn Levin. He's doing good. He's doing good. Superstar.
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And Mr. President my question is you had a great relationship with the people of India when you visited India and with the
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with the Prime Minister of India and also with the Indian American community. Where do we stand today
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all those relations from 45 to 47 in the future. Mr. President please. Thank you.
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Well we stand great and the people of India. I love the people of India and we're working on some great deals between our countries.
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I spoke to the Prime Minister Modi today as I mentioned before and we just have a very good relationship and he's not going to buy much oil from Russia.
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He wants to see that war end as much as I do. He wants to see the war end with Russia Ukraine.
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And as you know they're not going to be buying too much oil. So they've cut it way back and they're continuing to cut it way back.
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An appeals court recently ruled that you can send a National Guard in Oregon.
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Do you feel unfettered to send the National Guard into whatever city you want now?
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Well I guess so. That was the decision that I can send the National Guard if I see problems.
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I looked at Portland over the weekend. The place is burning down. Just burning down. We weren't there. We weren't.
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We didn't spend much time there because we were waiting for that decision. But the court probably that maybe that influenced the court.
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But you look at a place like Portland. It's just it's ridiculous when they say that there's no problem.
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The place is it was on fire over the weekend. But we did. We won the case in Court of Appeals. I think it was a nice certain Ninth Circuit.
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So that's pretty good. And a very strong opinion that we have the right to use the National Guard.
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You would think that would be common sense. We have the right to use the National Guard to put out trouble.
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Well that's you know how I got elected. One of the reasons I got elected. Yes.
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Mr. President. What changed your mind after talking to Vladimir Putin between then and now?
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Why did you think that a Budapest summit would be might be a wasted might be wasted time?
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Well I didn't say anything. I didn't say it would. And you know you never know what's going to happen.
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But a lot of things are happening on that front on the war front with Ukraine and Russia.
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And we'll be notified me over the next two days as to what we're doing.
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Did you hear something? A lot of a lot of things are happening.
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Yeah please. Mr. President. On Ukraine do you still see a chance for a ceasefire?
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And what is Putin asking for? Do you still see a chance for a ceasefire?
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And what is Putin asking for? I do. It's a vicious look. It's a vicious word.
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It doesn't really affect us. We sell equipment to them. We sell equipment to NATO.
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And NATO gives it to Ukraine. But we don't pay anything anymore.
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Biden spent 350 billion dollars. The war would have never happened if I were President.
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Would have never. Not even a million years. And Putin knows that too. Would have never happened.
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But it did happen. And I came in. And I have to see if I can put it out.
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But it doesn't affect us. Because we're not losing soldiers there.
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Although, when I first came in, that could have ended up. It's not going to happen.
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But it could have ended up in World War III. That was really out of control.
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So now it's. They're shooting. And they're killing people.
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And I think Putin wants it to end. And I think Zelensky wants it to end.
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The Pressure said he reached out to you about meeting on the government shutdown.
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Will you meet with him before you leave for Asia on Friday?
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Well, I will actually. I'd love to meet with them. I just want them to open up the country first.
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You know, the country is so hot right now. And they've never voted against, you know, continuation.
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They've never voted again. They've never done that. They're doing this because they have Trump derangement syndrome.
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But I will. I would love to meet. I would like to meet with both of them.
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But I set one little caveat. I will only meet if they let the country open.
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They have to let the country open. The people want to go back to work. They want to be served.
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They want to. They need the services of some people. And a lot of people need the money, the payroll.
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So I'll do it as soon as they open up the country. I'd like to meet with them.
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Just to be clear, you won't meet with them until the government's open.
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The government has to be open, yeah. You know how long it would take for them to do that?
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Just say, OK, government's open. That's it. There is nothing. They're not negotiating.
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What they're doing is saying they lost the negotiation when we got the great big beautiful deal done.
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They lost that negotiation. Now they're saying, well, we want to get some of the things we lost.
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But the problem is the things they lost are very bad for our country.
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We don't want to have people come over from all over the world from prisons and all and have them have their health care paid for.
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We want to take care of people that are American citizens and all.
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So they want $1.5 trillion of money to be wasted and jeopardize the health care of other people.
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We're not going to do that. So we're going to I would love to meet with them.
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Mr. President, a new poll shows that if Curtis Sliwa dropped out of the New York mayoral race,
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then Andrew Cuomo would only trail Mondani by four points.
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Would you call Curtis Sliwa to drop out of the race so that can happen?
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Well, I looked at the polls and looks like we're going to have a communist as the mayor of New York.
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It'll be very interesting. But here's the good news.
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He's got to go through the White House. Everything goes through the White House.
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At least this White House it does. And we'll have to see what happens.
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But if he dropped out, he's not going to win and not looking too good for Cuomo either.
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But maybe, I don't know, if he dropped out, maybe Cuomo would have a little bit of a chance, but not much.
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Because it looks like the leaders, it's not a great lead, but it's big enough that he should be able to win.
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So, you know, I don't know that I want to get involved.
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It's really a question of, would I rather have a Democrat or a communist?
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And I would rather have a Democrat than a communist.
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Mr. President, I have an obligation to speak to him.
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But look, I love New York. I've always loved New York.
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I just can't believe a thing like this is happening.
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I left New York and we had a mayor, de Blasio, who was a disaster.
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But when I left, it was sort of before he could really take hold.
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And now it's sad to see what's happening, frankly.
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And with the communists in charge, look, you just go back a thousand years.
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I mean, it's been done many times, a thousand years.
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It's never worked once, so it's not going to work now either.
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Mr. President, you're building your ballroom right now.
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They're also building the Obama Presidential Library.
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No, but it's close. It's stopped. They ran out of money.
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You know, you call it some museum, some, and usually they call it,
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they call it library and museum. That's the official name.
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And they're stuck. And he wanted only women in DEI to build it.
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And the construction workers are standing out there and saying,
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You know, you have great, I built a great building in Chicago,
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And we use the construction workers of Chicago.
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They're great workers. They're great construction people.
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But they're hundreds of millions of dollars over budget.
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And I think it stopped. I'm reading these terrible stories.
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But that's the way our country was run under President Obama, too.
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Russia remains China's top crude oil supplier in September.
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Well, I mean, you read the same papers as I do.
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But I don't have to read the papers because I'm the one.
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China will have about 155 percent tariff put on it.
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But China's been very rough with us over the years
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because we had presidents that weren't smart from a business standpoint.
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But they allowed China to take advantage of us.
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And every other country to take advantage of us.
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If you see, I made a deal with the European Union.
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Made a lot of these deals that are great deals.
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And we're getting hundreds of billions, even trillions of dollars paid into the United States.
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We'll probably make a distribution out of some of the tariff money.
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I think we're going to make a distribution over the next fairly short period of time to people.
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Because we took in so much money from the tariffs.
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That's even a lot of money for you guys, right?
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And it keeps people like this here because that's why they're coming in.
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I mean, you wouldn't be, I mean, I'm not going to speak for you, but generally they won't be coming in at border for tariffs.
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They come in here and they don't have to pay any tariff.
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If they do it outside, they pay a lot of money, a lot of tariffs.
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And in order not to pay the tariff, they come and they build here.
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That's why we have more plants under construction than we've ever had in the history of our country.
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And you wouldn't think it's complicated, but you would have thought somebody would have done this a long time ago,
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sitting in this beautiful seat behind what's called the Resolute Desk.
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This is even more famous than any of your desks.
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Because the New York Times is reporting that your legal team is seeking $230 million from your own Justice Department now in response to the investigations and to you.
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Is that something you want your legal team to do?
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All I know is that they would owe me a lot of money, but I'm not looking for money.
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But look, what they did, they rigged the election.
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And as you know, we had, in one case, 60 Minutes had to pay us a lot of money.
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George Slavodopoulos had to pay us a lot of money.
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You know, they paid me a lot of money because what they did was wrong.
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And, you know, when somebody does, it was wrong.
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Now, with the country, it's interesting because I'm the one that makes a decision, right?
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And, you know, that decision would have to go across my desk.
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And it's awfully strange to make a decision where I'm paying myself.
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In other words, did you ever have one of those cases where you have to decide how much you're paying yourself in damages?
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And any money that I would get, I would give to charity.
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Is the Democrat Party now more Zoran Mandani's party than it is even Leader Schumer's or Leader Jeffrey's?
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I mean, maybe he'll run for president in four years.
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I've always said you will never see, and I always talked about socialism,
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I say in his speeches, we will not have socialism in our country.
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In other words, they skipped socialism and they went down to communism.
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And he's going to be maybe the mayor of New York.
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I don't know, maybe, you know, polls are wrong, but these polls seem to be pretty consistent.
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But he would be, I would say he would be the leader of the party.
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I've known him for a long time, but he's, I think he's mentally gone.
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Sort of hard to meet with a guy after I make a statement like that, but I'm just giving the facts.
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I know some people, Democrats, that would be good.
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Some good politicians and some, you know, reasonable people.
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But I understand that they would not have a chance of, you know, getting even the concept of holding the torch.
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But they have some people that I really believe they're low IQ people.
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If you win three or four swing states, you're doing great.
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And I think the best thing when you look at districts, 2,700 versus 525.
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I guess they like me, but they like my policies.
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You know, in the great big beautiful bill, we got the biggest tax cut in history.
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Not only no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime.
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We got the biggest tax cut in the history of our country in the bill that we just approved.
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And I think people see that, and they like it, and that's why we're doing well.
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The President dropping a couple of bombs there, talking about Mondami, talking about so much of the activity going on.
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Also, just telling the Democrats, hey, if you vote to open the government, you come along and open the government, then I can sit down and have a discussion with you on other topics.
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I think this is absolutely – we're winning this shutdown.
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Why would we possibly – why would we possibly fold now?
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When the media is talking about – when the media is talking about, oh, they ought to compromise and there's got to be some discussions and there's got to be coming.
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The reason the media is doing that is they're partners in crime.
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And they realize the Democrats are getting hammered for this.
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The Democrats shut this down because of a trillion dollars they want to spend over a number of years on illegal alien health care.
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The illegal aliens, because they have to go to the emergency rooms, this is what pays for it.
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There should be no compromise on this whatsoever.
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We don't need to talk to any of the Democrats about anything.
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Everything they have is so radical, it's nothing to talk about.
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It's now time to break these folks because they're not getting less radical.
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Iman Dami is the new face of the Democratic Party.
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And I don't know how this percentage of young Jewish kids or young Jewish people are voting for a man Dami in New York City.
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That shows me that the education system, they ought to be shut down.
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President Trump, he has a whole lot of power when it comes to New York City.
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If you vote for it, assume that your life's going to change.
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And we don't care if you hate Trump because it doesn't matter.
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And Trump's going to win a fourth time without New York.
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You're about to elect a Marxist jihadist who hates America.
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Qatar, the mom, the dad, shady, shady, shady characters.
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And for all the guys that talked all the big smack early on about, oh, we're going to do this and do that and defeat him,
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And people are tweeting out, isn't this a great, isn't Curtis great?
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He's never come close to being the mayor of New York.
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In fact, nobody even can explain to me what the guardian angels are.
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Yet this is one of the guys, and Adams didn't get out quick enough, and people didn't come around enough.
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Now, we have a cold open that's epic and monumental.
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Let's go ahead and play that, and we're going to bring the show in, and we're going to go from there.
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A corporate funding bill for the furloughed employees.
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That's Ron Johnson of Wisconsin's bill, a bill that he's introduced in past shutdowns, which would pay for, effectively pay for federal employees who are otherwise furloughed.
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We just reported, John Bresnahan just reported that Chris Van Hollen, who represents Maryland, a huge, obviously a huge hub, huge bastion of federal workers, is going to put out his own bill that does something similar, which to me signals that the Ron Johnson bill is not going to pass.
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Democrats' complaint is that the Ron John bill provides a slush fund of sorts, and the president can decide who he wants to pay and who he doesn't want to pay.
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Now, I personally do question whether there is some risk in opposing that bill, obviously, because, as your previous guest suggested, like, this is a real-life thing where people who are going to work every day are not getting paid, and they're not going to go to work.
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And, Katie, as you and I know, the aviation infrastructure in this country is, you know, at times not great.
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And if, yeah, and if the air traffic controllers are calling out in cities like Charlotte, Chicago, Atlanta, D.C., New York, big cities with big hub airports, we're going to have problems, and especially approaching the Thanksgiving season.
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Darth Vader is a man who, I think he's sitting right.
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Does everybody know this is, they call him Darth Vader.
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But he's cutting Democrat priorities, and they're never going to get him back.
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And they've caused us, and they've really allowed us to do it.
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Because many of the things that they're cutting, like the New York project, $20 billion, we're cutting it, they're not going to get it back.
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I mean, they're not going to get a lot of things back.
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But they're losing all the things that they wanted.
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But many of the things that they wanted are things that we don't want.
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The things that are just so bad for our country.
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Government shut down the three-week mark, and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle are getting the same message from their voters.
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Now a group of vulnerable House Republicans is getting a bit itchy, calling on Speaker Mike Johnson to, quote,
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immediately turn the focus to health care affordability.
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I mean, these are some of those moderate and or battleground district Republicans who, quite frankly,
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admit in this new letter that they just sent to Speaker Mike Johnson,
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that, quite frankly, they need to get something done on this.
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That, yes, while they say it is not their, quote, responsibility that we are in this situation,
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And, quite frankly, they seem to see the writing on the wall,
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which Democrats have been really hitting Republicans on for quite some time,
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that if these premiums start to skyrocket, which is what we're expecting them to do in the next couple weeks
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as people get those notices in the mail, and also, of course, the marketplace opens on November 1,
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And one of the things that Democrats quietly have said since the beginning of this shutdown fight
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is, at the very least, changing the national conversation to really hone in on health care
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could be a winning message for them, because Democrats traditionally poll very well in that arena.
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Meanwhile, here on Capitol Hill, the push and pull, quite frankly, continues,
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where both sides are not really talking to each other, they're talking to themselves,
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and some of the top Republicans in the Senate are very much laying the line in the sand,
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which is echoed by these battleground Republicans, basically saying,
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we're not going to do anything, though, until the government reopens.
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Today I'm calling on every Senate Democrat to stop the madness, to let our country get back.
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In the greatest moment in the history of our country, in terms of wealth, in terms of job creation,
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and in terms of investment coming in, these guys go on strike.
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This is the fourth week of the Democrats' shutdown, but we are all here today because your Republican
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This is now the longest full shutdown in history, but everybody here has voted now 11 different
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times to open up the government, and we are going to keep voting to open up the government,
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and eventually, the Democrats, hopefully sooner or later, are going to come around.
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With all of the elements in the great, big, beautiful bill, I'll tell you, it's amazing
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what we've done, $200 billion in costs for medical, what we've done, $50 billion for rural
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hospitals, and remember, no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on...
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This is the biggest, this is the greatest bill, Social Security, no tax on overtime.
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But no tax on tips, I got that from a waitress in Nevada.
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I was making a speech, and I'm at one of my restaurants in the hotel I own there, and
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And I looked at it, and she said to me, sir, there should be no tax on tips.
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That's not a state that we wouldn't buy that much, David, but we won it by a lot.
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I'm letting everybody build their own power plant so they'll become like an electric utility
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But if they want to build their own plant, and we get their approvals within less than
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a month, it used to take five years prior to rejection.
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Sometimes a guy in Louisiana, they had one that took 12 years, and then they got rejected.
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I got it approved in two weeks when I got into office.
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Amazon, which is reportedly on the verge of a seismic workplace shift.
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The New York Times reports that executives at the online retail giant believe the company
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aims to replace more than half a million jobs with robots.
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The company expects to avoid hiring more than 160,000 in the US that it would otherwise need
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In all, executives think the automation would allow the company to avoid hiring 600,000
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Amazon said in a statement that the documents viewed by the paper were incomplete and did
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not represent the company's overall hiring strategy.
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This peace deal was struck under the president's leadership literally a week ago.
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The hostages were turned, what, six days ago, five days ago?
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So we're in the phase now where we're actually starting to conceptualize what that international
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I think it's important for Americans to know a couple of things.
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Number one, there are not going to be American boots on the ground in Gaza.
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The president of the United States has made that very clear.
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All of our military leadership has made that very clear.
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What we can do is provide some useful coordination.
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How do you take the Gulf Arab states, plus Israel, plus the Turks, plus the Indonesians,
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how do you actually get those folks to work together in a way that actually produces long-term
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The only real mediators are the United States of America.
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And so that's the role that we're going to play.
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Duly note that the vice president is over there with Jared.
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I think Qatar and Turkey are also in these conversations.
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No American boots on the ground of commitment by the president of the United States.
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President also sitting there talking about there's nothing to debate.
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Tonight at 10 o'clock on PBS, your favorite channel, The Rise of Bobby Kennedy.
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Let's play the trailer, and then I'm going to bring in, they had one of these roundtables today, Claire Dooley put on, and the Children's Health Defense folks.
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His goal will be to make America healthy again.
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He's pushing back against people who've told him he's a fraud.
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He's the most famous Kennedy in America right now.
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10 p.m. tonight, the Secretary of Health and Human Services, HHS, Health and Human Services, will be profiled in this.
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That's the most waspy name I've ever had on the show in five years.
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I mean, listen, we all come from various pedigrees.
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You're very concerned about – you used to be at the big universities.
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You're very concerned about the weaponization of science.
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Well, the American public is beginning to hear from Kennedy, Secretary Kennedy, a lot about
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what has been going on over the years behind closed doors in the area of science.
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First of all, I want to demarcate between science and fraud, right?
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So if I'm a scientist and I have to answer to a pharmaceutical company because they pay
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my bills or they gave me an endowed chair at a university, I'm going to do everything
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that I can do to make sure that that pharmaceutical's products look as good as they possibly can
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And if I lose my chair, that whole system selects for people that are willing to sell
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You're telling me that everybody that takes a chair funded by – sponsored by Pfizer
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is by definition, by your definition, a sellout?
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Well, I'm saying that the system selects for it.
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I don't know how far that selection's gone completely, but I know for a fact that if
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there's a narrative that the former CDC or NIAID with Anthony Fauci had to have for public
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health, if you're at a university and you actually went against the grain, your university
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got a call and all of your NIH funding was threatened over, let's say, HPV vaccine safety
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I'm to take it that all the reports that have come out of these universities on topics
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like that, where I can go back and see that Big Pharma somehow either endowed a chair or
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gave money for research, that they're all suspect?
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There's a mix of fraud in weaponized science and then the use of science in a way that
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Can you give me a specific example of either fraud or weaponization in this regards?
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So when the CDC whistleblower, who I'm sure you've heard about, William Thompson, came
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out, he told Brian Hooker that a study that was published in 2004 by Frank DiStefano and
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a lot of people at the CDC actually buried data so the institutes of medicine could look
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at it, that the MMR vaccine did indeed seem to contribute to an increased risk of autism
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And they manipulated the study by dropping everybody from the study that didn't have a Georgia birth
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certificate just to reduce the sample size, which is the number of people in the study,
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So the demarcation between science and fraud is something that's been going on for decades,
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The Institute of Medicine is one of the most corrupt institutions in the entire federal government
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Isn't the Institute of Medicine the group that said that Agent Orange could actually be eaten
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The whole Agent Orange thing started with this Institute of Medicine that has got a track
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record of being not just for sale but beyond corrupt?
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When I looked into the authors of this one study I talked about in MMR, it's the same
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people that did the study on Agent Orange to a person.
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You mean the same guys that did the Agent Orange and the same one that did this?
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They were absolutely hired to go to work at CDC because they knew how to fix the science,
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Well, Agent Orange obviously came about after the guys came back.
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It was 2004, so the science would have been done 2002, 2003.
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Why are criminal charges not brought against this?
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I think that we're going to probably see some prosecutions on the basis of defrauding
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If I'm funded by the federal government to do science, to do research, and I falsify
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the data, I can be fined personally and I can be banned from doing research for 10 years.
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So I think that there's some recourse we can do.
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Kennedy is still, you know, catching his stride here, right?
00:42:03.180
But I'll tell you, there are journals that have retracted good studies, and that's another
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They retracted good studies to destroy studies that show that there's a problem with vaccines
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And the Attorney General's office has been handed a list by Secretary Kennedy of those
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journals that are helping to falsify the record.
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In fact, we're going to have Brian Hooker on tomorrow.
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I'm going to try to have Brian Hooker on tomorrow.
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Let me get this right, because I think you're breaking news here.
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So the guy that I heard it from is actually the former office, he's the Office of the Pardon
00:42:46.480
He was at the Association for, sorry, the Association of Physicians and Surgeons meeting last month.
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And he made an announcement that Mr. Kennedy, Secretary Kennedy gave him a list of 28 studies
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with the journals and layperson summaries that actually they were wrongfully retracted and
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that those journals have been put on notice by the Attorney General's office.
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And I was asked by Secretary Kennedy to put that list together for him.
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And so, and that list is compiled of what again?
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Journals, scientific journals that publish research studies that pulled studies wrongfully
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and destroyed science to hide any problems with vaccines or other drugs.
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But isn't this beyond, because people were damaged by this, isn't this beyond a civil issue
00:43:42.140
Was it the drug companies, the vaccine manufacturers?
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But beyond that, then we also have the fact that, again, these journals, many of them
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were contracted by the U.S. government to publish science in the public interest.
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And if they're defrauding the government on that contract, then there's a problem.
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Is Secretary Kennedy going to come up and make this as big a deal as it looks like it
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Because what you're saying, and I think our audience and other people fall into this.
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You see a guy like Fauci, and we helped sell the book, you know, the hidden Tony Fauci
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It's just, it's just document after document and people couldn't get enough of it.
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But the mistake I think we've made is that people identify Fauci as like Dr. Dr. Evil.
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So you do have good men and women are caught up in a bit because of careerism.
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It's kind of like the SS in World War II to go along to get along.
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I mean, there's a lot of people from the deep state that are still there that are pushing
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Talk to me about, I thought deep state was at the CIA, DNI, Pentagon, Justice Department.
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When you say deep state in medicine, tell our audience what institutions are you talking
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There's regulatory capture at HHS where people are promised a job.
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You just saw Peter Marks take a job at a big pharmaceutical company.
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You saw Julie Gerberding many years ago take a job at Monsanto.
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These guys with the revolving door, they'll, they actually go get jobs at the companies
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that they were regulating just two months ago and it's their golden parachute that needs
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So yeah, no, the deep state to me means what you just said, careers and people that are
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survivors that hold onto their job by doing whatever's necessary to enforce whatever narrative
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they're told to enforce by the people that are keeping them there.
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Give me quick, uh, regulatory capture to find that for our audience.
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Regulatory capture is where agencies in the government actually make policy, uh, that reflects
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the interest of companies, uh, corporations that they should be regulated.
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They should be regulating them, but they're actually potentially against the public's interest
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Regulatory capture is one of the biggest threats to public health in the United States.
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Um, the, um, when you say how big a problem is this to actually go in and get the justice
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Well, I, most of the people I think that, um, are on the list of, uh, people that falsified
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science around vaccines, uh, are probably already out or on the way out.
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So, you know, fixing, fixing the problem really is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s job.
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I have a Ph.D. in ecology and evolutionary biology.
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But I've been doing biomedical research since 2000.
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So we were talking about fraud and science and vaccines in particular.
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And you have in there the fraud and all the reports you've been doing?
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You can also check out the Maha Report published there sometime.
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Well, the scoop is that when the CDC decided to study vaccines and pregnancy, they hired
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Tom Shimabukuro, among our community, is known as CDC's fixer because he makes problems go
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And he actually had data that he did not show to the right committee.
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Do I have to put up something in advance so we don't get sued by?
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He actually, we have people drawing up affidavits that he showed a 4,250% increase in fetal
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demise during vaccination during pregnancy with influenza.
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He was the same guy that he went to, they went to for RSV, the same guy that he went
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to during pregnancy, the same guy that they went to for COVID vaccine during pregnancy.
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And you're saying that's not a random choice, right?
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Wouldn't he just be considered the pro in the space?
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Not a problem for them, but it's a problem for all the women who have lost their children
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You're saying his research is demonstrably wrong?
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His research is, the research is wrong that he didn't show the results.
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If you do science, you have to show all your work.
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He hid the results by not presenting it to the committees on vaccine safety.
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But the parents called him out the first time and he pulled out a CD and he showed them
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Why, why is that, why is Ed Martin not pursuing that?
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You got the Substack on Rational, the, what is it, the Popular Rational?
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And if you want to hang out with me, go to ipak-edu.org.
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But you've also got the weaponization of science, flaws, and fraud in research.
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