Bannon's War Room - October 27, 2025


Episode 4880： The Fall Of New York; Deport Mamdani


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Steve Bannon said in an interview that President Trump could run for re-election in 2028, despite the Constitution limiting presidential candidates to two terms. What does this mean for the future of the presidency and the country as a whole?

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00:00:00.000 Trump is going to be president in 28, and people just sort of get accommodated with that.
00:00:04.200 So what about the 22nd Amendment?
00:00:06.700 There's many different alternatives. At the appropriate time, we'll lay out what the plan is.
00:00:11.660 So, Bob, the 22nd Amendment, pretty plain as day. It's very clear a person cannot be elected to president more than twice.
00:00:18.920 So what do you make of Bannon's comments?
00:00:21.500 Plain as day, to be sure. The U.S. Constitution says two terms only.
00:00:25.420 But what's also plain as day, Tony, is that President Trump is close to Steve Bannon.
00:00:29.780 Steve Bannon's close to people in Congress.
00:00:31.760 And many Republicans want to see the president renominated in 28, despite what the Constitution says.
00:00:38.260 And that could create a real legal showdown if he is renominated and the president accepts the nomination in 2028 again, despite the Constitution.
00:00:46.740 You could have the Congress and the courts really face a standoff of whether this could move forward.
00:00:51.640 And the courts would ultimately have a huge say, perhaps the say, over whether that could happen.
00:00:56.840 But we're in such an unprecedented moment when you have the president's allies, some of his top allies, like Steve Bannon,
00:01:03.020 actively toying with the idea of pushing him to be the candidate in 2028 and just see what happens.
00:01:10.040 That's something that could be historic and also troubling for many Democrats who worry Trump's pushing the Constitution, pressuring it in an unnecessary way.
00:01:19.280 Sir, Steve Bannon said in a recent interview that there could be plans for you to be able to run and potentially win a current term in 2028.
00:01:27.400 Is that something you'd be willing to challenge in court to be?
00:01:29.880 Well, I haven't really thought about it.
00:01:32.040 We have some very good people, as you know.
00:01:34.580 But I have the best poll numbers I've ever had.
00:01:39.260 I mean, I just solved eight wars and a ninth is coming.
00:01:42.400 I believe Russia, Ukraine will happen. 0.97
00:01:44.040 But we just did, you know, we just left and when you look at the treaty we just did, that was a war that was thousands of people were already shot at the border.
00:01:55.000 And when you look at what we just did, it was pretty amazing, pretty amazing.
00:01:59.300 We got a lot of a lot of good credit.
00:02:01.220 And I really have to thank Malaysia for that because they really the prime minister and everybody really helped get the two countries together.
00:02:08.760 But it was it was quite a great peace treaty.
00:02:13.460 But that was one of eight.
00:02:16.260 And makes me feel good.
00:02:18.760 I mean, it's billions of people that we saved.
00:02:20.740 I saved the lives of millions of people.
00:02:23.380 That's what's important.
00:02:24.580 Yeah.
00:02:24.840 Who are the very good people?
00:02:27.220 They are good people.
00:02:28.340 Well, you said that for 2028 they're a very good people.
00:02:32.100 Well, we have great people.
00:02:33.740 Well, I don't have to get into that, but we have one of them standing right here.
00:02:37.700 We have J.D., obviously.
00:02:39.940 The vice president is great.
00:02:42.060 I think Marco is great.
00:02:43.160 I think I'm not sure if anybody would run against us.
00:02:46.740 I think if they have a formed a group, it would be unstoppable.
00:02:50.800 I really do.
00:02:51.360 I believe that.
00:02:52.520 I would I would I would love to do it.
00:02:55.040 I have my best numbers ever.
00:02:56.620 It's very terrible.
00:02:57.440 I have my best numbers.
00:02:59.200 If you read it.
00:03:00.880 Am I not ruling it out?
00:03:03.820 You'll have to tell me.
00:03:04.880 All I can tell you is that we have a great a great group of people, which they don't.
00:03:09.640 One theory on how you might try to serve a third term is that you could run as the vice president.
00:03:15.020 Yeah, I'd be allowed to do that.
00:03:16.320 Is it the White House or the White House counsels or your legal position?
00:03:20.820 No, you'd be allowed to do that, but I wouldn't.
00:03:22.580 I wouldn't do it.
00:03:23.480 I think it's it's too cute.
00:03:25.400 Yeah, I wouldn't rule that out because it's too cute.
00:03:27.340 I think the people wouldn't like that.
00:03:29.240 It's too cute.
00:03:29.800 It's not.
00:03:31.200 It wouldn't be right.
00:03:32.800 There's a plan.
00:03:33.880 Trump will be president in 2028.
00:03:35.540 I want to start here.
00:03:37.160 This is the only way for Steve Bannon to get attention right now.
00:03:40.060 OK, he's out of the loop in this White House.
00:03:42.980 It's not like the first term.
00:03:44.740 And I am seeing on social media a lot of Democrats like clapping like seals and doing exactly what Steve Bannon wants them to do,
00:03:51.320 which is talk about Steve Bannon and his Svengali like effort to keep Trump in power when he's an 83 year old geriatric.
00:04:00.320 I think that we should look at this logically and look at it strategically because that's what Steve Bannon is doing.
00:04:07.480 This is Steve Bannon isn't like letting you guys in on a little secret that they have a secret plan to keep Trump in power.
00:04:14.600 Steve Bannon is running an angle like this is an angle.
00:04:17.060 This is a bit.
00:04:17.600 He wants attention for himself.
00:04:19.140 He wants to throw this out there in the hopes that things develop that way.
00:04:23.740 And and I don't think that we should play into his hands.
00:04:26.940 I think that we should counter it.
00:04:29.100 As I mentioned, Trump will be 83 in 2029.
00:04:32.700 Who knows what will be happening in that guy's addled brain in in the fall of 2028 when he's 82 years old.
00:04:41.460 Would he be capable of running another race?
00:04:43.940 Would he be capable of overturning?
00:04:45.520 Like, would he maybe just be happy that he got the ballroom named after him and and, you know, they're going to mint a coin with his face on it.
00:04:54.080 You know, it's just it's hard to predict.
00:04:55.780 And that's why the right way to look at this is probabilistically, like through probably through probabilities.
00:05:02.360 You have a lot of pundits that you're incentivized in the pundit sphere to come on in a moment like this and be like, see, he's going to do it.
00:05:10.000 Trump is trying to stay in 2028 or to go out there and be like, Trump's never going to be able to stay.
00:05:15.840 There's no chance he's going to stay like that is, you know, how you make a point on one of those panels with Scott Jennings on CNN.
00:05:23.460 Right.
00:05:23.620 The truth here is that it's a possibility, like the right way to think about this is that can we completely wave this off?
00:05:37.040 Of course not.
00:05:38.140 Is he absolutely going to do it?
00:05:39.940 I don't doesn't seem like it to me.
00:05:41.700 Like, who knows?
00:05:42.200 A lot can happen.
00:05:43.000 The future is unknowable.
00:05:45.340 And so you think about this as, well, does it seem like they're going to try?
00:05:50.100 Is it a possibility?
00:05:51.440 Yeah, it is.
00:05:52.260 It is a possibility.
00:05:53.320 And we should take that possibility seriously.
00:05:56.120 Looking beyond President Trump, what should Americans hope for in foreign policy?
00:06:02.720 What should the priority be for the next president, given this battle between autocrats and Democrats and the United States is shifting role right now within it?
00:06:13.160 Well, that's a great question.
00:06:14.460 And in fact, my book is written for if we're going to be in this new Cold War for decades, my book is written for decades, not just what should Trump do tomorrow.
00:06:22.880 And in my world, there's kind of three big debates, right?
00:06:26.660 Isolationism versus engagement.
00:06:28.180 I'm firmly on the engagement side.
00:06:30.140 And these isolationist tendencies in our country scare me.
00:06:33.800 Reminds me of 1930s.
00:06:35.420 That's a disaster.
00:06:36.640 Second big debate.
00:06:38.400 Unilateralism versus multilateralism.
00:06:40.520 Do we just do whatever we want?
00:06:41.900 Or do we play along with the rules of the game with our allies?
00:06:45.320 I'm firmly on the multilateral side.
00:06:47.640 And I make the arguments for why we should be.
00:06:49.860 I don't like the unilateralism of President Trump.
00:06:52.760 Short term, sugar high.
00:06:54.720 Long term, we alienate the world.
00:06:56.840 And then finally, most controversially, there's a debate between those that say we should promote democracy in the world and those that say that's not our problem.
00:07:04.940 I've looked at 250 years of history, especially the Cold War, and we have been hypocritical from time to time.
00:07:11.680 Don't get me wrong, right?
00:07:12.860 Apartheid South Africa was our allies during the Cold War.
00:07:15.460 But in the long run, I think making democracy promotion a key pillar of American foreign policy has served us well in the past and will serve us well deep into the 21st century, even if President Trump today disagrees with me.
00:07:31.960 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:07:39.800 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
00:07:45.020 You've just not got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:07:49.280 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:07:51.240 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:07:52.680 I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:07:55.320 It's going to happen.
00:07:56.580 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:07:59.980 Mega Media.
00:08:00.880 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:08:06.760 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:08:10.520 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:08:16.900 War Room.
00:08:17.740 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:08:26.440 It's Monday, 27 October, Year of Our Lord, 2025.
00:08:30.880 President Trump now in Japan, and he's going to meet the emperor.
00:08:37.320 He's going to meet the new head of the government.
00:08:40.760 They'll talk to the finance minister, the key meetings.
00:08:44.920 But his trip to Asia so far has just been a stunning success, one after the other after the other.
00:08:49.740 The key to make sure you don't miss it is Scott Besson, the secretary of treasury, has worked out a framework.
00:08:55.740 We don't know the details of that.
00:08:58.140 In knowing Scott, it's not going to kowtow to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:09:03.060 But we do have an inkling that the knife to our throat, that is the new restrictions, the export restrictions on the heavy rare earths, is going to be delayed at least a year and maybe two.
00:09:18.140 Which would be a game changer for everything we're trying to work on here in the reindustrialization of the United States and should be an object lesson to those globalists who allowed all the processing capability to go to the Chinese Communist Party. 0.81
00:09:34.680 So whether it is generic drugs, anything on the supply chain, ball bearings, what have you, component pieces, the Chinese Communist Party is prepared to send a flare-up for economic, full economic warfare against the United States. 0.94
00:09:52.080 They are our mortal enemy.
00:09:53.500 Now, it doesn't mean if you have a mortal enemy, you can't reach some sort of rapprochement, at least on the interim basis.
00:10:00.200 Scott Besson has announced he has a framework.
00:10:02.060 It will not include us going to 100 percent tariffs.
00:10:06.660 We don't know what it entails with Taiwan.
00:10:09.280 They have announced that the president is going to meet now Thursday, Korea time in South Korea, that Xi and President Trump are going to meet.
00:10:19.760 So – and we will cover this live when we get to a specific time.
00:10:24.980 But we assume right now that we're going to be live at approximately 10 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time on Wednesday night to basically cover this historic meeting.
00:10:34.840 They've also implied – haven't been official statements.
00:10:39.820 They implied that President Trump is going to go to China in January to meet with Xi and that Xi would then come back to the United States either a meeting at the White House and or Mar-a-Lago.
00:10:50.020 My money would be on Mar-a-Lago.
00:10:51.580 But – and he would do that either in the summer or the fall.
00:10:56.760 So a tremendous amount of what this – what this trip has really been for President Trump is to engage directly with Scott Besson with the Chinese Communist Party and make sure that we can work something out.
00:11:08.280 Look, we're the decoupling faction as we – and we think the historical record proves correctly that we should have decoupled and we must decouple at some point in time because they're going to continue to reach for a knife to our throat whenever they can because they're our mortal enemy, mortal enemy of the Chinese people, Lao Bai Jing, and mortal enemy of the United States and citizens of the United States. 0.99
00:11:36.160 That being said, President Trump is trying to accommodate and trying to balance many things as he tries to bring the Third World War to an end.
00:11:46.260 He's had another peace treaty in Southeast Asia, signed another group of trade deals which were very important in showing the Chinese Communist Party that you can be isolated on commercial relationships financially by East Asia.
00:12:03.000 He's going to Japan right now to send that message also.
00:12:06.220 He'll be in South Korea even though that's led by a party that is very close to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:12:12.360 President Trump has sent him the message whether it's in Kuala Lumpur or whether it's in Japan or whether it's in Korea.
00:12:19.480 He's also announced he's prepared to stay longer.
00:12:22.520 And President Trump, if you know him, is not a person that likes to take long overseas trips, but he's prepared to stay longer to meet with the head of North Korea.
00:12:31.520 The only shortcoming or problem with it, he doesn't have time to go to the Philippines and Taiwan.
00:12:39.580 Would love to go into Taiwan, but not going to do that.
00:12:42.360 Although Taiwan is going to come up in this discussion on Thursday.
00:12:45.100 Just watch.
00:12:46.280 Also, huge wins over the weekend.
00:12:48.200 And you've got to balance this with what's happening here domestically.
00:12:51.180 But Scott Besant looks like his bet on Argentina paid off.
00:12:55.320 It certainly saved Millay, right?
00:12:58.660 Absolutely saved him as he – the comeback he had was overwhelming vis-a-vis where he was when he got skunked in these local elections about a month ago.
00:13:08.420 Scott Besant properly thought through that this was a strategic deal to support the – what the Argentine peso.
00:13:17.360 So to keep Millay in and keep him in, he did.
00:13:21.060 Now, that being said, we've got to balance what these hedge funds made as far as profits off this versus what the farmers are going to get hit with the Argentine beef.
00:13:33.420 Also, we've got to make sure that Argentina is totally cut off the Chinese Communist Party.
00:13:39.000 Remember, all these things in South America right now are strategic in nature.
00:13:44.380 About Monroe Doctrine 2.0, about hemispheric defense, about getting the Chinese Communist Party out. 0.68
00:13:51.360 But you also have to move with discernment, particularly in places that are on the edge like in Venezuela and Argentina.
00:14:00.680 But the financial bets got made and said, hey, strategically, we've got to support Millay because we need hemispheric defense.
00:14:08.280 And hemispheric defense, one of the foundational elements of it is making sure that we take care of Latin America.
00:14:16.960 We don't have left-wing communist pro-CCP governments like Lula in Brazil.
00:14:23.940 I know we're playing footsie with Lula right now because of the rare earth.
00:14:30.700 So a lot going on strategically.
00:14:32.240 President Trump, the tour so far is nothing short of triumphant, triumphant.
00:14:39.080 It's one stop after the other, either a massive trade deal or bringing wars to an end.
00:14:43.500 President Trump's in Japan.
00:14:45.380 We've got a packed show today.
00:14:47.000 Alex Jones, Laura Loomer, Mark Mitchell.
00:14:49.840 Let's get on with it.
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00:16:55.960 Okay.
00:16:57.120 Gold is bouncing around a lot, particularly as the market gets more and more comfortable that, hey, maybe President Trump's going to put to bed the trade war with the Chinese Communist Party.
00:17:08.800 He's not totally going to put it to bed because they're at war with us.
00:17:12.640 What he's doing is the best he can do given he's been dealt a terrible hand.
00:17:18.600 The globalists allowed all the processing for heavy rare earths to leave this country on Obama's watch.
00:17:25.020 I know that's just random, right?
00:17:28.140 But on Obama's watch with Biden as vice president, the processing for heavy rare earths and magnets, things like that we need for heavy industrial production was basically taken apart and shipped because the Chinese Communist Party's bought it for like under a billion dollars.
00:17:46.480 And how did that happen without having a full review?
00:17:50.320 I don't know.
00:17:51.660 Ask Joe Biden.
00:17:52.520 Wasn't he on the payroll of the Chinese Communist Party?
00:17:54.520 As memory serves me correctly, on the laptop from hell.
00:17:59.040 Yes, the one that the deep state came out and said was Russian misinformation, which they knew was a bald face lie.
00:18:07.200 This is why we're calling for and Tom Fitton said it on the Saturday show.
00:18:14.600 It's getting some resonance.
00:18:16.560 It's starting to resonate over the weekend that we need a special prosecutor for all this.
00:18:22.480 You're not going to get to the bottom of the 2020 election.
00:18:25.640 It's just to scattergun.
00:18:27.540 And I keep hearing the reasons.
00:18:29.240 They're just not hiring enough people.
00:18:30.800 I don't know.
00:18:32.060 Part of it may be the government shutdown.
00:18:34.040 I'm sure there's all types of things going on.
00:18:35.680 There's always a million excuses.
00:18:38.040 But we got to get on with it.
00:18:40.420 And a special prosecutor is the only way I know that you can get on with it.
00:18:43.540 And that's your report, as Tom Fitton said, to the White House, to the Oval Office.
00:18:48.120 Yep.
00:18:48.920 Has to happen.
00:18:50.580 It's the only way we're going to get to the bottom of this.
00:18:54.980 So if President Trump is, you know, between Argentina and Brazil and trying to settle the Middle East,
00:19:04.100 if you look at what he's juggling, that no president since FDR in World War II has had to juggle on so many different fronts with Orban today, 0.99
00:19:15.520 saying that Viktor Orban, the hero, told the EU he's going to – because one country can block things.
00:19:20.020 He's not going to go along with the stealing of the Russian people's assets.
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00:20:05.020 With all this going on internationally, we cannot take our eye off the main front.
00:20:10.960 The main front is domestically to make sure that all these illegal invaders exit the country in mass deportation 1.00
00:20:19.400 because this is their plan is to destroy America internally, destroy America internally
00:20:25.020 and to take our eye off the ball of the central fact that between illegal alien invasions
00:20:31.560 and the scamming of these visa programs, they are overwhelming us with people who are not U.S. citizens, foreigners. 0.96
00:20:39.480 This is the Mondami play in New York City.
00:20:43.800 You've got a Ugandan citizen, Ugandan citizen that has only been a citizen, a citizen, quote unquote, for six years
00:20:56.220 who is a Marxist jihadist.
00:20:59.860 He's not a socialist.
00:21:01.140 He's a Marxist jihadist that has a plan that makes no sense.
00:21:06.580 It doesn't need to make sense because the only point of the revolution is the revolution, according to those guys.
00:21:11.840 And he's going to win.
00:21:12.720 You saw him last night.
00:21:13.540 I think it was in Forest Hills, 13, 14, 15,000 people.
00:21:17.680 You know, Bernie Sanders is kissing the ring.
00:21:20.300 AOC is kissing the ring.
00:21:23.120 The governor tried to, that hack, tried to kiss the ring.
00:21:26.100 Of course, they basically boot her off the stage because she's not radical. 0.99
00:21:30.120 First of all, she's totally incompetent. 1.00
00:21:31.380 But number two, she's not radical enough for him.
00:21:34.320 So it's coming.
00:21:36.180 It's coming.
00:21:36.980 And why, you know, the Israel first crowd, as I warned them, as I warned them, have done nothing but focus on their problem coming from Tehran, 0.80
00:21:45.700 which is not the problem.
00:21:47.260 Their problems in London, the streets of London and in New York City.
00:21:50.640 Oh, by the way, 38 percent of the Jewish voters in Manhattan are going to vote for Mondami.
00:21:58.620 Think about that for a second.
00:22:00.380 So we have a massive, massive problem that's going to be visited upon the United States on what, the 4th of November?
00:22:07.120 And if you think, oh, he's a socialist, he's going to run out of money, it's the best thing that could ever happen.
00:22:12.100 All the conservatives in bow ties that are telling you that are morons.
00:22:17.420 These guys are Bolsheviks. 0.79
00:22:18.700 They're not socialists.
00:22:19.520 They're Bolsheviks. 0.74
00:22:20.020 They're Bolshevik jihadists. 0.87
00:22:22.340 Think of that combo platter.
00:22:24.200 Once they seize control of the apparatus in New York, they're not giving up.
00:22:27.160 You're going to have to take a trenching tool and get them out.
00:22:30.160 Now, I think there's a couple ways to do it in advance.
00:22:32.420 Number one, his citizenship is totally illegal. 0.53
00:22:38.180 And Andy Ogles and others in Congress are waking up to this fact.
00:22:40.960 But you've got to wake up to the fact in DHS.
00:22:43.800 He's got to be denaturalized because his naturalization process was fouled.
00:22:49.500 He's got to be sent out of the country.
00:22:51.900 Also, Randy Fine, who's probably the most, you know, brutal or, you know, out there Israel first guy, has a great, he's put a great proposal up to Congress.
00:23:02.940 You can't have dual citizenship. 1.00
00:23:05.720 You can't have dual citizenship and be in Congress. 0.99
00:23:08.920 Randy Fine lays it out.
00:23:09.960 He says you've got to have allegiance to one country or another.
00:23:12.680 And that's for any country.
00:23:13.860 I've got a better one.
00:23:15.080 I'll see you and raise you, Randy.
00:23:17.320 There should be no dual citizenship in the United States of America. 0.98
00:23:22.040 You have to pledge allegiance to one nation.
00:23:24.700 You pick them.
00:23:25.760 I don't care which one you pick.
00:23:27.100 It's your call.
00:23:28.640 But if it's to the United States of America, it's then to the United States of America.
00:23:32.120 We can't have people here with dual loyalties, dual allegiances.
00:23:35.700 It does not work like that.
00:23:37.480 And you're seeing this now all over the place, particularly the rising tide, what you see in Portland, what you see in Chicago, what you see in Los Angeles.
00:23:44.440 What you're seeing is not native-born Americans who have no allegiance to this country that are voting in jihadist Marxist into office.
00:23:54.900 If you think this is going to be reversed easily, you are incorrect.
00:23:59.860 Mark Mitchell, you've done some amazing polling on all this, and the tech bros all sit there and think they just keep – they sit there and just tell us, oh, it's all going to be fine.
00:24:08.200 We're going to live in an era of abundance.
00:24:10.700 It's abundance for them, but it's red in tooth and claw for everybody else.
00:24:15.820 Your thoughts are particularly on Mandami and what he represents when he comes to power.
00:24:21.520 No, Mark Mitchell?
00:24:22.240 We didn't get him up?
00:24:24.380 Okay.
00:24:25.220 That's okay.
00:24:26.440 I had a great tee-up for Mark Mitchell right there.
00:24:28.960 I was going back.
00:24:30.480 When you're on the road, it's a little hard to produce these shows.
00:24:33.200 Mark Mitchell's got polling on basic economic populism and how it relates to capitalism today.
00:24:41.300 Economic populism is what the people want.
00:24:45.000 What's being foisted on them is not capitalism.
00:24:49.040 It's corporatism or state capitalism where the broligarchs and the oligarchs get special treatment, special advantages offered up by the state to – or the deep state in order to remain as monopolist and oligarchs with no competition.
00:25:11.860 And they're essentially rent seekers while everybody else kind of fights for this tiny piece of the pie that's out there.
00:25:20.720 It's not working.
00:25:21.620 You can tell the polling.
00:25:23.120 This is why this rising generation who I've told you is nothing but Russian serfs. 1.00
00:25:28.040 And what I mean by that is they don't own anything and they're not going to own anything.
00:25:32.760 It's only going to be so long they're going to stay on the treadmill, right, to say, I'm just – I'm running to keep in place.
00:25:39.560 They give me a credit card so I can get into the permission structure of debt.
00:25:46.420 I'm going to get debt now.
00:25:48.880 I got college debt that I can't pay off.
00:25:50.920 Now I'm going to get credit card debt that I'm going to use all these buy now, pay later, which is just nothing more than being an indentured servant because your current cash income can't support the lifestyle.
00:26:06.140 In the metropolitan area where you have to live, because the metropolitan areas where they have to live in cubicle culture is so exorbitantly expensive.
00:26:19.520 They're revolting against that.
00:26:22.020 One way they're revolting against that is a vote for Mom Donnie. 0.99
00:26:26.920 A vote for him right now they see as a protest vote, some of them.
00:26:32.260 You saw that crowd last night.
00:26:33.900 And when Mondami gets in, President Trump said, hey, not on my watch.
00:26:39.060 I'm not going to support a guy in New York City that's trying to become – trying to put a Marxist jihadist government into the financial capital world.
00:26:48.480 He says, I'm not going to do it.
00:26:49.500 President Trump is going to take action, I think very, very harsh action, to make sure that this does not get – that this does not start to seize the institutions of the apparatus of the government of New York City.
00:27:01.400 But you can see from the numbers right now, the reason Mondami is going to win is the overwhelming support of foreign-born voters.
00:27:12.060 And you're going to have that as the nation becomes more and more MAGA, becomes more and more red.
00:27:16.660 Ninety percent of counties are already support President Trump and MAGA.
00:27:20.880 You're going to see these great metropolitan areas, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, become more and more radical.
00:27:32.760 Not just with – not just sanctuary cities, but far, far, far worse.
00:27:38.400 And a decision is going to have to be made.
00:27:41.460 But these are essentially neoconfederate operations that think they just – they don't have to be part of the country.
00:27:47.000 Well, I got news for them.
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00:29:14.560 Which side are you on?
00:29:18.700 Which side are you on?
00:29:20.940 Oh, which side are you on?
00:29:24.080 Tired and before, don't turn to break free.
00:29:29.340 The huddled many masses, oh, they are you and me.
00:29:33.880 Woo! 0.99
00:29:34.180 Woo! 0.99
00:29:34.820 What about the mics?
00:29:43.340 How are you?
00:29:46.380 How are you?
00:29:47.400 Thank you.
00:29:56.020 Are you with me?
00:29:57.040 Do you run to the left?
00:29:59.300 Let me have it.
00:30:24.460 Okay, Naomi Wolf joins me.
00:30:26.680 She's got a great piece on her sub stack.
00:30:30.300 How is this happening, Naomi?
00:30:33.520 How is this happening?
00:30:34.620 You have a Marxist – first off, you have a Ugandan citizen that's only been naturalized here illegitimately and illegally six years. 0.99
00:30:44.840 You have a Ugandan citizen that would not have any idea where his money comes from, no idea what his real background is, who's running as a Marxist jihadist and is not shy about that.
00:30:56.500 He made an excuse the other day on 9-11 and said his aunt – his aunt was the victim because she couldn't walk around in a burke anymore. 0.71
00:31:04.280 This guy couldn't be more than your grill.
00:31:06.260 And so how does a city that flaunts its superiority to the rest of the country and that MAGA is a bunch of rubes and they're this brilliant elite, moneyed elite of both parties, not just democrats.
00:31:18.900 How are they about to elect the Bolsheviks to take over the financial cap of the world, ma'am? 0.92
00:31:26.620 Great question.
00:31:29.900 So it's like lightning in a bottle.
00:31:32.380 A lot of things have really come together.
00:31:35.080 And the Mamdani administration has done a lot of – I mean, administration would have slipped.
00:31:39.420 Campaign has done a lot of things right.
00:31:41.760 They know their audience.
00:31:43.360 Number one, I don't trust the polls.
00:31:45.180 And, you know, in one of my essays I took apart one of the polls, it was cherry-picked early on trying to show that he was, you know, the frontrunner.
00:31:52.580 There's no hope.
00:31:53.620 They've been trying to create this atmosphere of invincibility.
00:31:56.320 But notice that no one in the legacy media asked what a head-to-head between Mamdani and Sliwa would look like, the Republican candidate.
00:32:06.420 And when they finally asked that question, the pollster finally asked that question two weeks before Election Day, it turns out that this whole time –
00:32:14.620 Please stop.
00:32:14.820 Maybe not this whole time, but Sliwa was ahead of Cuomo.
00:32:17.260 Please stop.
00:32:17.700 So they're not asking the right questions.
00:32:19.240 Sorry, did you say something?
00:32:19.920 Please stop.
00:32:20.560 Please stop.
00:32:21.340 Hang on.
00:32:21.980 Please stop.
00:32:22.560 Please stop.
00:32:23.540 You're in fantasy land.
00:32:25.720 Already?
00:32:26.100 No, let's go to the primary.
00:32:27.640 On the primary – yeah, no, hang on.
00:32:29.140 On the primary, I kept saying this guy's going to win.
00:32:31.860 No, Cuomo, he's got the endorsement of the – he's got the endorsement of the New York Times.
00:32:35.760 He's got $40 million.
00:32:36.960 He's got the endorsement of the New York Post.
00:32:38.140 He's been to all the right synagogues.
00:32:39.520 He's been to all the right churches, all the police, the firemen, everybody approved.
00:32:44.080 It doesn't matter.
00:32:45.840 The working family party in the DSA have got 10,000 people canvassing in Brooklyn.
00:32:51.880 Modern politics from Obama to Trump to Bolsonaro to Salvini is all about ground game.
00:33:01.280 It's all about turning out low-propensity voters, and he's going to turn out –
00:33:04.580 Curtis Sliwa and anybody that supported Sliwa at all is to blame here.
00:33:10.580 He's not going to win in New York City.
00:33:12.640 Nobody sat there and said you got to get his ego run wild.
00:33:16.420 And so now on Tuesday the 4th, regardless of the polls off a little bit on the margins,
00:33:21.640 is there any doubt in your mind that Mandami is going to win and win with a majority, have a majority vote?
00:33:26.920 Well, first of all, only 26% of the electorate that was eligible turned out to vote in the primary.
00:33:35.640 So you're right that it's all about the ground game.
00:33:38.140 But that's why I think the question of are the polls legit is very real.
00:33:42.320 I think if you've got – yes, I'm going to say I think this is a toss-up.
00:33:46.760 If you've got someone who's 49 – I'm sorry, 39 to 46 – I think there was a – I'm sorry,
00:33:54.040 there was a nine-point difference between Sliwa and Mandani in a head-to-head in the latest poll.
00:33:59.320 And four points is the margin of error, as you well know, Steve.
00:34:02.560 That's a five-point difference, and you can overcome that with getting out the ground game.
00:34:07.480 Now, I will put the blame squarely back on – I don't want to say you guys, because I'm with you guys now –
00:34:12.180 but there's been literally no help for local Republicans running in this race from the Republican establishment.
00:34:20.460 I mean, it's all been grassroots.
00:34:21.940 They don't have any money.
00:34:22.980 They're running on steam.
00:34:24.020 They're trying to get out the vote.
00:34:25.860 If you guys had taken seriously that there was a very real threat,
00:34:28.860 and I would say the threat is as much Cuomo as Mandani.
00:34:31.260 Are we forgetting the lockdowns?
00:34:33.100 Steve, that was Cuomo's oversight.
00:34:35.320 Are we forgetting the grandma dying in hospitals?
00:34:38.320 That was Andrew Cuomo.
00:34:39.640 Are we forgetting kids out of school for a year and a half, and they still can't catch up?
00:34:44.860 That was Andrew Cuomo.
00:34:46.120 He restricted our rights more than any leader of a major city in living history in the United States.
00:34:52.160 Why is this okay with the Republican establishment?
00:34:54.400 Why don't they even fight?
00:34:55.800 I mean, I've never seen a worse bunch of passive cowards in this case than the Republicans who have abandoned the fight,
00:35:02.780 even if it's a tough one in New York City.
00:35:04.500 And you're the first person who would always say, Steve, going back to the war against the greatest power on Earth,
00:35:10.580 which was our American Revolution, that just because an enemy is outsized doesn't mean you don't fight them to the death, metaphorically.
00:35:18.660 So, yes, I think it's possible.
00:35:20.380 But you have to be logical.
00:35:25.840 As bad as Cuomo is, and he's terrible, the only way you're going to have a shot to win this.
00:35:30.080 First off, you had to do with the unconventional means.
00:35:31.720 I said from the beginning, this guy's not even a legal citizen.
00:35:34.540 You have to go – you have to do everything.
00:35:36.740 Andy Ogles takes a guy from Tennessee to put something forward to check his citizenship.
00:35:43.220 But Sliwa and Adams were just a drag on this.
00:35:45.940 If you're going to beat – listen, Vandami is just not some progressive.
00:35:49.780 He's a Marxist jihadist.
00:35:51.600 It's a whole different deal.
00:35:53.220 The people around him couldn't be more radical.
00:35:54.820 As bad as Cuomo is, and Cuomo is terrible, Adams and Sliwa never had a shot, and Cuomo was never getting out of the race.
00:36:02.320 So you had to get the two other ones out, and they weren't going to go.
00:36:04.740 Adams at the last second kind of reluctantly, and Sliwa is out there banging the drum, and he'll get his 9 percent or 10 percent, and you'll turn the city over to Vandami.
00:36:14.780 So talk to us about Vandami, particularly – he's Sadiq Khan on steroids.
00:36:21.320 What's going to happen when you have a Marxist jihadist?
00:36:23.940 Here's the thing about this kid.
00:36:25.640 He puts a happy face on the TikToks and dancing around the aisle of a grocery store, but he hasn't swerved from his radical underpinnings.
00:36:38.480 I mean the other day, he basically – on 9-11, the worst thing that happened on 9-11 was his aunt that couldn't walk around in a burka unless people gave her stink eyes, right? 0.97
00:36:48.080 So talk to me about what Vandami is going to do and how you're going to get him after he wins.
00:36:54.360 It's absolutely insane.
00:36:56.500 Well, first, I do want to say I agree with you.
00:36:58.220 One of them, Sliwa or Cuomo has got to step aside for New York to be saved, a Marxist slash jihadist leadership, and I hope one of them does. 0.97
00:37:08.480 It's for the good of this country and that beautiful city.
00:37:12.620 So it's very, very serious.
00:37:14.260 My essay, The Green-Red Revolution on Substack, really makes the case that the whole scenario that I've been sharing with your audience, you all have informed me about it very much since 2021,
00:37:27.120 which is there's a globalist elite and they're trying to kind of wipe out the West for their own nefarious purposes.
00:37:33.580 And in the past, it's been, as I argued, an alliance between kind of big tech and the World Economic Forum and China being the kind of driver or cat's paw to do away with the West.
00:37:46.060 And I talked about how pharmaceuticals and other nefarious subversive tactics were being used to tenderize us, to weaken us.
00:37:54.400 Unrestricted warfare is, I guess, what it's called by China experts.
00:37:58.580 Well, I think that what happened, and this is the case I make in my essay, is that in 2025, most of the world of the West woke up to some, if not all, of those plans and who the evildoers were.
00:38:10.580 So people are investing in gold, they are trying to scale down their surveillance technology items around them, they're trying to, you know, go to natural healers and trying to avoid big pharma and big medicine.
00:38:24.560 They're trying to source their food directly from the farmer.
00:38:27.280 They're kind of trying to get out of the target of that cabal, and that cabal is losing.
00:38:34.760 You've got Maloney, you've got, you know, in Italy, you've got alternatives for Deutschland and Germany.
00:38:40.560 You've got all of these nationalist, sovereign nation-oriented anti-immigration parties in the ascendancy in Europe.
00:38:47.480 And in Japan, you've got a new sovereignist, nationalist anti-immigration leader.
00:38:53.680 And so the globalists are in a lot of trouble.
00:38:56.900 So I think they switched mercenaries.
00:38:59.440 And I hate to write this essay.
00:39:01.580 I love so much about moderate Islam.
00:39:03.800 I love many Muslim people.
00:39:05.500 I hate to be kind of finger-pointing on the basis of religion.
00:39:08.800 But I had to face the fact, especially looking at what's going on in Britain, that the globalists are using extremist Islam, not every Muslim person, but fundamentalist, kind of tribalist, kind of, you know, medieval Islam, right, to tenderize and destroy the West.
00:39:31.000 And they're doing it in a very, very, very systematic and targeted way.
00:39:34.480 So you see this two-tier policing in Britain, two-tier judiciary, where native-born Britons are being given long prison sentences for, you know, tweets.
00:39:44.840 And meanwhile, central London is uninhabitable because you've got massive crowds of furious extremist fundamentalists saying death to this and death to that.
00:39:57.080 And, you know, disruptions of classrooms, disruptions of civil society.
00:40:01.120 I think that it's escalating.
00:40:02.720 I think it's a technique.
00:40:03.480 You see it in Michigan now, where, you know, Islamist elected officials are basically telling native-born Michiganders that their voices don't count. 0.94
00:40:13.480 You see, you know, Ilhan Omar saying, you know, my country, referring to not the United States.
00:40:20.480 You see this escalation of a kind of Islamist empowerment by authorities in the West, including in the United States.
00:40:28.620 Well, I think that's a switching of the weaponry by the globalists.
00:40:34.120 And so now when it comes to Mamdani, I'm getting very, very, very, very frightened because I'm a former political consultant, as I often say.
00:40:41.840 And reading with that hat the last few weeks, Steve, nothing this guy is doing is normal winning politics.
00:40:48.720 You don't keep talking about 9-11 in a city that was traumatized by, you know, jihadist terrorism in 2001, two weeks leading up to the mayoral election.
00:41:02.980 If you really want to win, you kind of convene everyone around other issues people were loving, the fake agenda of fast, free buses, free childcare, state-run grocery stores, you know, affordable housing, even though he can't deliver any of that without horrific damage to the city.
00:41:18.800 But you don't, it's not a winning tactic to say to, you know, to be photographed with Piker, the streamer who says America deserved 9-11 or to even give a whole press conference about the real victim of 9-11 is his auntie who, you know, didn't want to wear her hijab on the subway.
00:41:38.000 It turns out, by the way, that his auntie is an NGO expert in gender rights and reproductive health and all these haram subjects, like forbidden by Islam subjects. 0.99
00:41:52.560 She doesn't seem to wear a hijab.
00:41:54.300 She doesn't, you know, she lives in Tanzania.
00:41:56.400 So that, too, could be totally fake.
00:41:59.320 But the point is, you don't do that if you want to win.
00:42:01.280 And so what I am seeing is certainly that he's going to win because I'm sure that the polls are compromised and there's a whole generation of young New Yorkers, as you and I were discussing before the camera started, who have been thoroughly propagandized, whether they're Jewish or Muslim or Christian or agnostic or atheist.
00:42:23.700 They thoroughly hear this laundry list and they think that is going to solve my life.
00:42:29.400 It's going to give me a mission like this thing, you know, this gathering with AOC and Bernie Sanders.
00:42:35.080 They've taken from every trope of the civil rights movement and the labor movement and, you know, a revival meeting, like everything that could give alienated TikTok generation millennials a sense of purpose and belonging and community.
00:42:51.260 So that is big.
00:42:52.720 Naomi Wolf, the green red revolution about to visit the greatest city in the world, New York City.
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00:45:11.020 We have engine rooms all over the country.
00:45:12.880 One of the smartest we have is in New York City.
00:45:14.400 They informed me during our chat that we're losing New York City because of populism or phony populism because it's kind of populism that's pitched.
00:45:23.700 It's not going to be enacted.
00:45:24.900 And Israel.
00:45:26.100 Let's leave Israel off to the side for a second. 0.89
00:45:28.140 But one of the complaints and one of the concerns of a lot of MAGA is that President Trump is solving the problems of the world, trying to stop the Third World War, but spending an inordinate amount of time doing it and that enough focus is not on domestic issues.
00:45:41.860 I've recommended.
00:45:42.660 I think you're going to see these domestic bilats in the Oval start coming in the next couple of months.
00:45:47.620 But that Mandami came up with affordability. 0.88
00:45:51.520 Mark Mitchell is going to be with us some polling about economic populism, about all of it that's going to blow your head up, particularly about younger generations.
00:45:59.060 Naomi Wolf, is that correct?
00:46:00.640 Mandami focused on what the Republicans and Democrats and nobody else did.
00:46:04.820 He actually went out and started talking about affordability, and that resonated with naive young people, ma'am?
00:46:10.280 Well, it's very smart, and tyrants have promised a chicken in every pot or free everything forever.
00:46:19.380 And so it's not new.
00:46:21.760 I think it's just that grown-up, real American politicians know that the mayor of New York City doesn't have the power to provide free childcare to everyone in the city who needs it,
00:46:33.260 or fast free buses without, you know, billions of dollars in holes being blown into the budget and, you know, economic chaos.
00:46:41.900 So I do think, that said, that the president needs a message team that can explain how Americans are going to benefit, for instance, from peace in the Middle East or the end of the conflict in Gaza.
00:46:57.120 Because we do.
00:46:58.000 We benefit economically when we don't have to send, you know, aid all over the world.
00:47:02.740 Sending aid to the Middle East, even to Israel, I will acknowledge, is very unpopular.
00:47:06.600 So he should do a better job explaining that, you know, even why does Indonesia matter to us?
00:47:12.840 Why does, you know, why are all the trips he's taking now, you know, really bringing home help and economic benefit for the United States?
00:47:21.920 Peace and prosperity.
00:47:22.920 It was a good, you know, slogan back in the day.
00:47:25.740 And he's doing it, but he needs to explain it better.
00:47:28.060 And I definitely would agree that he has a little bit of a spotlight syndrome in the sense that if he's zooming around the world, bringing peace in all these conflict regions, which is pretty incredible.
00:47:40.020 And, you know, the hand of the divine is clearly upon him right now.
00:47:43.520 He does need someone very forceful, intelligent at home to, you know, to highlight the economic benefits, highlight have eggs gone down, has gas gone down, or, you know, how many new jobs, interviewing those workers at those new plants that are, you know, are hiring now.
00:48:01.920 It's an easy message to run.
00:48:04.080 It's not as glamorous as, you know, jetting all over the world to bring peace with giant numbers of leaders.
00:48:09.340 But I do agree that he needs to tell that story and have someone at home to do it.
00:48:14.600 But you agree that – you agree though – I'm not sure anybody but him can do it, but you agree that you can show the connections between – you can show the connections between Argentina and what's happening here or bringing peace to East Asia or blocking the Chinese Communist Party, that those interconnections are there.
00:48:36.580 You just have to take the time – you have to do it every day.
00:48:39.760 It can't just be onesies, twosies.
00:48:41.240 But you explain that and people here will understand, okay, he is taking care of things here because he's settling down things that we would get involved in or be dragged into or it costs us money to avoid.
00:48:54.220 Correct?
00:48:55.080 Yeah, totally.
00:48:55.980 And respectfully, I would say you do that every day on your podcast.
00:48:59.680 You take incredibly complicated geopolitical and economic issues and tell pretty accessible stories about them to the American people.
00:49:08.240 And, you know, as you know, because that's why War Room is popular, you know, the American people are well smart enough to follow a good, clear explanation if someone bothers to sit down and explain it to them.
00:49:20.440 So I do disagree that no one else can do it, maybe not as well as the president, maybe better.
00:49:26.200 You know, he's not fabulous at telling a very, you know, linear story.
00:49:30.860 He's fabulous at a lot of other things, but he can create – I mean, he's got a lot of talented people on his team.
00:49:37.860 My goodness.
00:49:38.980 A lot of telegenic people, a lot of incredibly impressive women. 0.99
00:49:42.360 One, I'm actually thinking of Monica Crowley, who would be fantastic at this kind of job, just explaining, you know, the benefit to the American people of what he's battling around the world.
00:49:54.840 And the other thing is, I think he's forgetting to run the victory lap for Americans.
00:50:00.060 You know, I was just reading a book about the 200-year Jewish war against Rome.
00:50:04.720 And whenever the Roman Empire had a giant conquest, they would, you know, build a triumphal arch and have a promenade and a celebration, and they would show the booty that they brought back from that conquered area to the Roman people, and they would get the benefit, the political capital of that.
00:50:22.720 Well, I don't see that the president is doing that enough.
00:50:25.280 I'm not saying literally bring home the booty and parade it around, but I think that more language about we are, you know, respected again around the world, we are the peacemakers of, you know, again, in the world, we are first among equals, we are, you know, America is – has a burnished reputation again after, you know, a long time of being laughed at and mocked and humiliated.
00:50:49.440 I think that would go a long way, you know, we are, you know, we are a city on a hill.
00:50:55.320 I think people are, you know, elected him because they want to feel that again, and they can feel it because of what he's doing.
00:50:59.880 It's huge.
00:51:00.640 And there's so many easy stories, like Jared Kushner was saying in an interview that, you know, private business relationships brought about, or maybe it was his colleague, Witkoff, brought about the investment in Gaza
00:51:18.220 that is helped to bring about this peace.
00:51:22.000 And I think that what they did with bringing in kind of carrot incentives economically instead of just old school diplomacy is brilliant.
00:51:30.080 It's genius.
00:51:31.520 That alone can bring lasting peace and prosperity to the Middle East.
00:51:35.200 But they barely have trumpeted that.
00:51:37.520 You know, we've saved gazillions of dollars because private – you know, the private sector stepped in to build stuff, you know, so that Palestine will be happy and stop – 1.00
00:51:48.140 you know, risking our kids going to war and risking other, you know, innocent people dying.
00:51:54.060 It's fantastic.
00:51:54.620 Naomi, we got to – we have to bounce, but I want everybody to go to your Substack. 0.95
00:51:58.540 Where do they get this brilliant article on the green-red revolution in New York City?
00:52:03.560 Thank you.
00:52:04.020 It's on Outspoken on Substack, and it'll be over on Daily Cloud as well.
00:52:08.600 And if you like this independent journalism, please do support us.
00:52:11.780 Thank you, Posse, for everything.
00:52:13.240 Thank you, Steve.
00:52:15.960 Naomi, brilliant peace.
00:52:17.140 We're going to closely monitor what's happening on the streets of New York.
00:52:21.420 Sadiq Khan comes to New York.
00:52:24.240 Short commercial break.
00:52:26.220 Alex Jones is on deck next in the war room.
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