Bannon's War Room - Episode 4883： Polling Shows Populism Grows On Both Left And Right

00:00:00.000 The rule of law and efforts from Trump supported by a compliant administration to create workarounds so that the rule of law effectively does not apply to him.

00:00:09.320 Since taking office, the president has tested legal boundaries by deploying troops to American streets, used emergency powers to justify sweeping tariffs, even though no emergency existed.

00:00:20.360 Greenlit military strikes on alleged drug boats without congressional approval and told the Justice Department who it should target.

00:00:27.000 The latest officials on that list, former Attorney General Merrick Garland and Trump's former FBI director, Chris Wray.

00:00:34.360 In order to achieve these goals, according to The New York Times, Charlie Savage, Trump follows a two point plan.

00:00:40.020 Quote, the first is that Trump has told executive branch lawyers that they may not question any legal judgment that he or Attorney General Pam Bondi already decided.

00:00:49.500 The second is that Trump has been declaring that as president, he has determined that the factual and legal scenarios exist that are necessary for him to exercise various extraordinary powers.

00:01:01.360 The president's campaign of retribution and he seemingly has found enough officials in the Department of Justice and U.S.

00:01:08.740 to carry out his attorneys to carry out his bidding.

00:01:11.220 Yes, I consider the presidency today as a presidency of revenge and retaliation for personal offenses against the president.

00:01:26.680 That is, personal offenses, in his view, committed by his political opponents, whom he now calls his enemies from within.

00:01:39.600 But this prosecution of the former FBI director is part and parcel of the same plan for revenge and retaliation against all of his political enemies.

00:01:54.500 And that plan is now underway and we've not even begun to see the end of it yet.

00:02:03.060 As you know, the president has accused former presidents of treason and and everyone else in the Democratic Party of of wrongdoing against America.

00:02:17.200 I guess how planned out was it really?

00:02:19.620 Yeah, I think it's important to look at the four year interaction where Trump is not in office and he's at Mar-a-Lago.

00:02:26.620 He's sort of stewing over what he views as, you know, his false claims of the election.

00:02:31.440 But he has a lot of folks around him, Stephen Miller, Russ Vogt, a number of others who spend that four year period determined to have a playbook, a blueprint the next time that will not be stopped.

00:02:42.900 If he gets back in by all sorts of all sorts of forces that stymied them in their mind unfairly in the first term.

00:02:52.000 And Trump, I would say, had his own ideas for what he wanted to do when he came back in.

00:02:56.640 But he was given so many of these ideas by the policy advisors that are now in the White House.

00:03:01.260 You know, someone told me that when they went down to Mar-a-Lago to see him after the election, they were stunned at how many executive orders, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them and all sorts of plans they had stacked up ready to go.

00:03:13.020 I mean, I don't think you can overstate the importance of the four year period where he's out of office and you have all these folks around him who really are eyeing the chance to come back and sort of have their vengeance and do it the way they want to do it this time.

00:03:26.940 And I think also, you know, Trump is a much more savvy president, I think, this time and how the government works.

00:03:34.860 I mean, in the first term, there were lots of things he did not know how to do.

00:03:38.820 He did not want to touch.

00:03:40.480 He was told by John Kelly, by Don McGahn, by a number of advisors in the first term, you can't do that.

00:03:46.500 And this time, his modus operandi is I'm going to follow my instincts.

00:03:50.520 I'm going to do what I want to do, whether you like it or not.

00:03:53.900 And I knew how to do it, or at least have the people around me this time in the administration who can execute it.

00:03:59.740 What happens when a president no longer recognizes the law as a limit, but as a tool?

00:04:09.460 It's very bad.

00:04:11.040 I mean, we've seen that the president is, well, look, a lot of people frame this as like a sort of a breakdown in the rule of law.

00:04:18.080 I understand that.

00:04:19.040 I think that there is a slightly different way of viewing the situation, which I think is helpful, which is a rule by law, which is Trump's use of the law to protect his friends, give them pardons and to punish his enemies.

00:04:32.560 Right.

00:04:32.740 So what that means, though, is like for the rest of us, we go about our days.

00:04:36.160 The law is basically basically feels the same to us.

00:04:38.760 Right.

00:04:39.060 Same things we thought are illegal are still illegal.

00:04:41.260 We can get away with certain things and not certain certain things.

00:04:44.400 But within this particular class of people that the president has chosen to point his attention to, they get punished for preferential treatment, depending on his whims.

00:04:54.760 It's not the way that the government is supposed to operate.

00:04:57.320 Under the historic trade deal with the prime minister that is signed today and private sector agreements that were signed moments ago, we'll be increasing our commerce very, very much further.

00:05:11.240 Japan's going to be investing five hundred and fifty billion dollars into the United States.

00:05:16.080 It's an it's an amazing thing and they're happy and they're going to they're going to love it.

00:05:20.900 It's going to be really good.

00:05:22.520 It's going to be a great, great for everybody.

00:05:25.140 But building up an allied industrial base and, you know, one of the things that makes me so happy is they'll be taking some of our product.

00:05:33.980 Japan is tip. 0.75

00:05:35.200 I don't think I'm saying anything that's very secret.

00:05:37.760 They've been typically slightly closed as a country.

00:05:40.060 It was not easy to come in, but they're taking some of our cars and some of our a lot of our different thing, rice, which is actually a big deal, because, as you know, they wouldn't do that.

00:05:53.000 And they're taking corn and they're taking the Ford 150 here, the big thing, some of our cars.

00:05:59.980 So it's really a great thing.

00:06:01.200 It's going to be great for them.

00:06:02.200 It's going to be great for everybody.

00:06:04.000 What's the best strategy against what you think Trump is doing here?

00:06:08.400 So I think it's twofold.

00:06:09.720 I think, number one, it is for there to be public awareness, right, so that we can pre-butt the misinformation and the disinformation that he is going to spread to try to create an environment that allows him to create mischief, like I said, in 2026.

00:06:24.560 The second thing, though, is we need to broaden the aperture.

00:06:27.740 You know, in your last segment, you talked about privacy and the fact that they're building a national database.

00:06:33.180 Well, my law firm is also involved in eight cases where the Department of Justice is trying to collect voter data on every single American.

00:06:42.900 Every single American who's ever registered to vote, the Department of Justice is trying to collect that data from all 50 states.

00:06:48.400 And why are they collecting that?

00:06:49.760 They're not collecting it to make elections easier.

00:06:51.680 They're not collecting it to make people safer.

00:06:53.740 They're collecting it because as they head towards 2026, they want to be able to weaponize that data along with a lot of other information that they've collected for a lot of bad reasons, including to try to make the 2026 elections less free and fair.

00:07:06.420 So what we need to do is we need to be prepared for that fight.

00:07:09.780 We need to stand up tall against it.

00:07:11.340 We need to litigate against it.

00:07:12.600 But most importantly, we need to know it's happening so that we can explain and contextualize this to our friends and our families, our clients, our customers, our bowling partners and our bridge partners.

00:07:22.920 But tonight, I'm more confident than ever that the friendship between the United States and Japan is strong, as strong as it can be.

00:07:30.340 And it's thriving.

00:07:31.620 It's prosperous.

00:07:32.260 And it'll soon be, I think, greater than ever before.

00:07:35.620 By figures like Steve Bannon, who, again, mileage varies on how seriously to take his media strategy.

00:07:42.720 But that is sort of infiltrated actual conversations with real people such as yourself concerns the question of whether Donald Trump will, in fact, try to be president for a third term.

00:07:53.860 Where are you on that question?

00:07:55.640 How do you see that threat?

00:07:57.540 Well, that question, whether Donald Trump will attempt to succeed himself in the presidency, is on the minds of virtually every American today, only 10 months in to his second term.

00:08:15.100 There's a reason for that.

00:08:16.800 The president's been in office approximately 10 months now.

00:08:22.320 He began talking about a third term two months into that 10 months.

00:08:30.060 And he and his allies and supporters have continued to talk about it up until yesterday when the president himself spoke to the issue and Steve Bannon also spoke to the issue.

00:08:44.020 During that 10 months, Donald Trump has seized, he has sought and he has actually seized near absolute unchecked power in the United States.

00:09:02.620 That is unchecked by either the Congress or the Supreme Court, the several states or the media itself.

00:09:14.020 There's no question at all that, as of today, Donald Trump has all the power he would ever need to run for a third term and be seated as the next president, whether or not he actually won that election.

00:09:36.900 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:09:42.060 Pray for our enemies.

00:09:44.020 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:09:47.260 You're just not going to get a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:09:51.540 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:09:53.500 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:09:54.920 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:09:57.580 It's going to happen.

00:09:58.840 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:10:02.240 Mega media.

00:10:03.600 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:10:08.280 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:10:12.800 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:10:19.060 War Room.

00:10:20.000 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:10:21.960 Tuesday, 28 October, in the year of our Lord, 2025.

00:10:31.960 While President Trump continues on this kind of triumphant tour of our allies in Asia,

00:10:39.380 although there is some controversy and some fighting behind the scenes of what's going to happen with this China situation,

00:10:46.980 Posovo is going to join me in the second hour.

00:10:49.020 We're going to break it all down.

00:10:50.060 Plus, a brilliant article in Unheard today.

00:10:54.780 That's the British publication, but covers MAGA quite closely and covers the United States quite closely from a kind of a British perspective.

00:11:03.320 A really brutal article on Marco Rubio and the neocons and this collection of Marco's donors down in South Florida that are driving this issue in Venezuela.

00:11:15.200 We'll get to all that also.

00:11:16.220 You know, yesterday, Comer, and I realize he's no, we're no big fan of his efforts because it's usually a lot of talk and very little action,

00:11:25.560 although he does discover good things in the Biden, during the Biden regime, he did a good job in oversight and at least coming up and getting some information.

00:11:36.740 Now, he never executed on anything and that was a huge problem, but you got Ludic, you have all these guys, you know, Mark Elias,

00:11:44.680 they're all sitting there about how Trump is so terrible and how Trump's a dictator.

00:11:49.780 The House Oversight Committee ruled yesterday that none of the executive orders are pardons executed by the auto pin are legitimate.

00:12:03.220 And this is what I said for years on this show about the illegitimate Biden regime.

00:12:08.020 And we haven't even gotten to the part of showing and adjudicating how they stole the election.

00:12:14.680 But I said the liabilities here in the in the chaos and confusion is going to cause in the American legal system are going to be monumental because this guy was not a legitimate president.

00:12:26.340 And now we've had the House of Just Not War Room, you know, banging on the table, yelling into the microphone.

00:12:31.460 They've deemed that that the auto pin and there's a story in the New York Post absolutely brutalizes people around Biden for what he actually knew at the time.

00:12:44.340 He had like an index card written down.

00:12:47.080 That none of the pardons and none of the executive orders that he wrote with the auto, but the sign with the auto pin are legitimate and have to essentially be unwound.

00:12:59.180 We're going to see where that goes to the House and what's going to happen with this.

00:13:03.260 But this is monumental and referrals over to the Justice Department like this afternoon.

00:13:07.280 Just absolutely huge.

00:13:10.080 You heard Ludic there and Ludic, the reason he's on TV this morning, the Atlantic magazine is doing, I think, a seven part series.

00:13:20.060 One's going to drop every couple of days about President Trump's his additional term or his next term.

00:13:28.120 Not this term, his next term.

00:13:30.500 Trump 28.

00:13:31.460 And Ludic, it was tipped that Ludic was going to be, oh, this is can't happen.

00:13:38.680 You know, this is against the Constitution.

00:13:41.140 You heard him right there.

00:13:43.480 That President Trump, because of the implementation of his Article II powers, and this came from, Josh Dossie had it, the years in the wilderness where the Russ votes,

00:13:55.480 the Stephen Millers, the Dr. Roberts over at Heritage, the Senator DeMintz and Mark Meadows over at CPI, all these, you know, Brooks Rollins' team at America First Policy Institute.

00:14:07.200 All these groups came together to think through what Trump's second term would be after the victory.

00:14:13.240 The Precinct Strategy, Turning Point, all the other grassroots organizations would take care of the politics.

00:14:17.940 But you had public intellectuals in those four years come up with a very detailed plan.

00:14:23.880 That's why we hit the deck plates running.

00:14:26.000 That's why you could flood the zone with real executive orders, ones that will be held up in court.

00:14:31.500 And so they're overwhelmed by that.

00:14:36.240 But as President Trump steps into the decision, which is many people, most people can't do, he steps into the decision and drives the action as the protagonist.

00:14:48.180 The progressive left collapses before us.

00:14:53.400 Ludic sitting there going, hey, if I had to call it today, he could do it.

00:14:57.600 He will do it.

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00:16:52.280 By figures like Steve Bannon, who, again,

00:16:55.040 mileage varies on how seriously to take his media strategy.

00:16:59.320 But that has sort of infiltrated actual conversations with real people such as yourself

00:17:05.400 concerns the question of whether Donald Trump will, in fact, try to be president for a third term.

00:17:10.480 Where are you on that question?

00:17:12.060 How do you see that threat?

00:17:15.220 Well, that question, whether Donald Trump will attempt to succeed himself in the presidency,

00:17:22.380 is on the minds of virtually every American today, only 10 months in to his second term.

00:17:31.720 There's a reason for that.

00:17:33.400 The president's been in office approximately 10 months now.

00:17:39.420 He began talking about a third term two months into that 10 months.

00:17:47.520 And he and his allies and supporters have continued to talk about it up until yesterday

00:17:53.520 when the president himself spoke to the issue and Steve Bannon also spoke to the issue.

00:18:00.620 During that 10 months, Donald Trump has seized, he has sought, and he has actually seized

00:18:11.360 near absolute unchecked power in the United States.

00:18:19.340 That is unchecked by either the Congress or the Supreme Court, the several states, or the media itself.

00:18:30.060 There's no question at all that as of today, Donald Trump has all the power he would ever need

00:18:38.020 to run for a third term and be seated as the next president, whether or not he actually won that election.

00:18:50.180 Oh, he'll win the election, Judge.

00:18:54.840 So make sure you're comfortable and make sure you put that into your equation.

00:18:59.820 Trump 2028.

00:19:01.080 President Trump is going to get the nomination.

00:19:02.920 He's going to run again.

00:19:04.520 He's going to win again.

00:19:05.560 And he's going to have another whole term to finish what he started, this kind of populist nationalist revolution.

00:19:11.180 Barris, you're here for kind of a reality check on some of the numbers, particularly domestic, where focus or refocus has to be.

00:19:19.860 But that part right there with Judge Ludic or Ludic talking about President Trump and the inevitability of Trump 2028, sir.

00:19:30.320 I'm listening to Ludic, Steve, and thanks, as always, for having me.

00:19:34.940 But I'm listening to him and just laughing behind the scenes over here because over the weekend, we heard about this a lot.

00:19:40.580 So nothing presently will drive a Democrat more crazy than listening to Steve Bannon talk about Trump 2028.

00:19:47.460 It's hard to stay professional when this happens, but it's hilarious. 0.94

00:19:52.900 And despite all of the crap I'm about to give the president right now, which I am, he would still win.

00:19:59.020 And he would win because in the voters' minds, he is still by far the best that America has to offer right now to lead the country. 0.89

00:20:08.360 So all of the hard time I'm about to give him, it's important to remember that.

00:20:13.180 They still trust him to do the job more than they trust anybody else.

00:20:16.600 Bottom line.

00:20:17.460 Well, two things.

00:20:18.260 Before we get into the details, the New York Post has an amazing story about a Democratic think tank.

00:20:24.060 It was the lead story this morning on The Post.

00:20:25.800 It just said, hey, you've so destroyed your brand with working class folks that you basically have pitched yourself to the credential class. 0.57

00:20:35.680 And there's not enough votes there to win national elections.

00:20:38.640 In fact, they said that this is the Democratic Party.

00:20:41.580 Their obsession with LGBTQ and climate change got in the way of the issues of economic populism.

00:20:50.420 This is one of the reasons that Mandami, who's a Ugandan citizen, a Marxist jihadist, has put a little bit of lipstick and talk about affordability and thrown in some populist policies, none of which he can execute as mayor to really get people's attention. 0.93

00:22:06.480 We constantly hear things like he was elected to fix Biden's economy.

00:22:13.480 What is he still doing, you know, talking about Israel, talking about Ukraine?

00:22:18.080 I thought that war was over by now.

00:22:19.440 I thought we were going to end that war by now.

00:22:21.040 There is too much focus on foreign policy.

00:22:23.180 And this is what I would tell the White House because I wasn't Mr. Popular over the weekend.

00:22:27.660 But it's just true.

00:22:29.160 You are never going to convince Americans that whatever is going on in Israel or whatever is going on in Eastern Europe is more important than whether or not they can afford eggs at the grocery store.

00:22:39.220 They want you to refocus all your all of your efforts on the domestic economy.

00:22:44.660 We all understand.

00:22:45.980 We all know politics and we all understand how much the president's role is steeped in foreign policy.

00:22:50.840 We get that foreign affairs, basically the nation's chief diplomat.

00:22:54.440 But the bottom line here is they elected him for a domestic agenda, Steve.

00:22:59.140 And if they don't hear this message soon, it's not it's going to get even less pretty than it is right now.

00:23:04.720 So what you see on the screen of people aren't looking, 52 percent said that he is too focused on foreign affairs.

00:23:11.440 Only 19 percent say that he's too focused on domestic affairs.

00:23:14.580 I mean, this is overwhelming, guys.

00:23:16.400 And by the way, it's worse with independence.

00:23:18.260 If you just looked at Republicans, it's still in the 40s.

00:23:21.580 If you look at MAGA independence, it's 58 percent.

00:23:26.160 And that's why his numbers are hurting with independence right now.

00:23:28.800 They want him to focus on inflation, which, by the way, if we can we pull up the next graphic and then this is what the actually.

00:23:36.520 Yeah, I mean, it's a little bit out of order, but you could see this.

00:23:38.360 This is his approval with issues, his overall approval.

00:23:41.700 I'll just I'll just spill the beans now.

00:23:43.340 It's still up in the mid 40s, which honestly stunned me considering the numbers with the issues.

00:23:49.240 Look at his numbers with inflation and cost of living.

00:23:51.900 I'm going to say this.

00:23:52.740 I don't like saying it, but I have to because it's true.

00:23:55.680 That's Biden level bad.

00:23:57.700 The numbers that he's getting on inflation right now is Biden level bad.

00:24:01.500 The only difference is that Biden's overall approval was drugged down even further.

00:24:05.760 Trump's is not.

00:24:06.600 It's not falling into the 30s.

00:24:08.960 It's not, you know, it's not even falling to 40, which means the American public are giving Donald Trump.

00:24:13.800 They're giving him a lot of leeway.

00:24:15.060 They're holding.

00:24:15.720 They're giving him a lot of latitude, a lot of grace for for the president.

00:24:18.760 But he's got to refocus soon.

00:24:20.520 Otherwise, these will get worse.

00:24:22.300 Then, by the way, the only issue that he's getting very high marks on is immigration.

00:24:26.500 And that's great.

00:24:27.360 And it's actually the top.

00:24:28.940 It's in the top three for most important issues for independence.

00:24:31.960 But it has fallen to number five now, because sometimes the way the American voter works, folks,

00:24:36.600 you fix a problem or you start to address a problem, and it falls as far as the level of concern that they have for it.

00:24:42.900 Right.

00:24:43.060 If Trump went in and fixed the economy, the economy would fall, too, if you made greater gains with economic growth.

00:24:51.180 So that would fall.

00:24:52.260 It's just the nature of how voters are.

00:24:53.820 But it doesn't mean they don't appreciate it.

00:24:56.560 But it's it's all about inflation, Steve.

00:24:58.780 It's about the cost of living.

00:25:00.060 That's it.

00:25:00.960 That's what they want the vast majority of the White House to spend their time on. 0.78

00:25:07.480 The inflation, though, is under three percent.

00:25:11.160 I understand.

00:25:11.740 And we used to say this during Biden.

00:25:13.060 It's it's cumulative.

00:25:13.840 So it hasn't been solved yet.

00:25:16.180 What are people?

00:25:16.660 And by the way, what is a MAGA independent?

00:25:18.740 Define that for the audience.

00:25:20.180 Go back to that chart.

00:25:21.420 Yeah.

00:25:21.840 When I look at a MAGA independent, what's the definition of that?

00:25:25.420 So we we for us, they're obviously independents who voted for Donald Trump.

00:25:29.940 But there really is a section of independents.

00:25:32.500 They don't vote that much at all.

00:25:33.980 And in the Trump era, they have come out for Donald Trump or maybe they're they're even newer.

00:25:38.240 Maybe they just came out for him in 24.

00:25:40.480 They don't vote for Republicans.

00:25:41.920 It's very difficult to get them to vote for Republicans.

00:25:45.340 By the way, look at a state like Michigan.

00:25:47.520 Mike Rogers lost because he did not do as well with independents as Donald Trump.

00:25:52.480 There is this group of the public and sometimes they'll even say they're a Republican.

00:25:56.860 But if you look at the registration, they're not.

00:25:59.200 And they we call them Trump or bust.

00:26:01.000 Right.

00:26:01.300 But the part that's independent is, you know, a gauge that we follow closely because this

00:26:06.500 is really the difference between Trump's margin everywhere and Republicans down ballot.

00:26:10.540 It's why Mike Rogers lost the Senate race in Michigan.

00:26:14.340 It's why McCormick barely won in Pennsylvania while Donald Trump just coasted.

00:26:19.380 So these voters, which a lot of people are trying to tell me now, don't exist.

00:26:24.280 It's unbelievable.

00:26:26.120 The sole focus of the Republican Party is to convince these voters or should be to convince

00:26:31.280 these voters that they are becoming more like Donald Trump.

00:26:34.220 Not that Marco Rubio is having fun with his donors and foreign policy and meddling with

00:26:38.940 everything and making Donald Trump more like the Republican Party.

00:26:42.640 The Republican Party's brand before Donald Trump was dust.

00:26:45.440 It was nothing.

00:26:46.340 The party was crippled.

00:26:47.300 It was a dying brand, Steve.

00:26:48.800 He revived it.

00:26:50.160 And the party has got to get on board with this idea that you can't win without these voters.

00:26:54.840 You will never perform like Donald Trump.

00:26:56.840 Even in a state like Texas, for instance, he does much better with independents and he does

00:27:00.920 much better with non-whites, they redrew that entire map to be based off of Donald Trump's 0.53

00:27:05.920 performance.

00:27:06.740 Well, you didn't perform like that.

00:27:08.880 So we opened up this can of worms and I get that and it's fine, but you can't expect

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00:27:18.320 they trust him.

00:27:21.900 I think he froze.

00:27:23.060 Let's go.

00:27:23.440 We're going to go to break anyway.

00:27:25.560 We're going to go.

00:27:27.900 No, I don't.

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00:29:21.580 Okay, Richard Barris is going to hang with us for a second.

00:29:24.200 He's got more data to go through about how we have to get back to focusing on domestic,

00:29:30.380 although President Trump's having a triumphant tour of Asia.

00:29:34.860 Congressman Andy Ogles joins us.

00:29:36.960 I talked earlier, Congressman, about how the New York Post is reporting that the Democrats

00:29:41.360 have killed their brand over the last 10 years by focusing on LGBTQ and transgender ideology 1.00

00:29:48.140 and climate change hoax with working class people, and they're saying it's going to take

00:29:52.940 a long time to rejuvenate it.

00:29:55.520 I think next Tuesday, a week from now, with Mondami winning, you're going to have a Marxist, 0.85

00:30:02.120 jihadist, Ugandan citizen, and he's going to rebrand the Democratic Party.

00:30:07.040 You have been at the forefront of saying, hey, why is this guy from Uganda even eligible to run 1.00

00:30:14.640 in New York?

00:30:15.740 You're not so sure he's an American citizen.

00:30:18.080 Am I correct in that?

00:30:20.400 Yeah.

00:30:20.580 I mean, when you look, I mean, literally, you know, I have a copy of like the forms that

00:30:25.800 she would fill out.

00:30:26.780 And if you don't fully disclose in your naturalization forms, you know, your past associations, anti-American

00:30:35.100 leanings, et cetera, they can revoke your citizenship.

00:30:39.160 And I think the DOJ needs to look into this.

00:30:41.060 And I think there's, although it's in the kind of the 11th hour, I think there is the

00:30:45.100 opportunity to review his status, to look at his forms, to see that he was actually aligned

00:30:51.320 with the communist Marxist organization that's very anti-American that would have disqualified

00:30:55.800 him from being a citizen. 0.96

00:30:57.960 Therefore, they could revoke it and send his butt back to Uganda. 0.97

00:31:01.620 I mean, this is, you know, I sounded the warning back in June, and I'm saying, hey, we've got

00:31:06.580 a last second shot here to save the city of New York.

00:31:10.040 This is going to be disastrous.

00:31:11.440 Let's be honest.

00:31:12.100 He's talking about free, free, free, free.

00:31:14.480 He's going to tax the rich.

00:31:15.880 Guess what?

00:31:16.280 The rich are going to move out of New York.

00:31:17.880 They're going to move to Florida.

00:31:19.220 They're going to move to Tennessee.

00:31:20.360 They're going to move to Texas.

00:31:21.880 We're going to be the beneficiaries of all that investment wealth.

00:31:25.160 Meanwhile, the New Yorkers are going to be left holding the bill, footing the bill for

00:31:29.300 this communist.

00:31:32.740 What did, when you came out in June, did the DOJ reach out to you?

00:31:37.240 Did anybody reach out to you about this?

00:31:39.820 We hadn't heard, you know, anything in details.

00:31:42.720 And obviously, if they're doing an investigation, it would be normal for them not to respond.

00:31:46.920 But that being said, you know, we're raising the flag again, you know, creating that sense

00:31:51.940 of urgency that, you know, this is a serious situation.

00:31:54.900 And he's making promises at the end of the day that he can't keep to the city of New

00:32:00.380 York.

00:32:00.640 And it is going to be absolutely disastrous.

00:32:02.820 And so, and look, quite frankly, if New York elects this guy, they're going to get what

00:32:09.420 they deserve.

00:32:10.500 And I think it helps the Republican Party.

00:32:12.920 I think this is testimony to the fact that the Democratic brand is in absolute disarray.

00:32:18.400 They do not have a message.

00:32:19.900 They do not have leadership.

00:32:21.700 And when the best you have to offer is Mom Donnie, who is a communist, an AOC, who is 0.99

00:32:27.620 also a communist, a Marxist, anti-American.

00:32:31.160 She's likely going to be on the ticket for them, for the White House going forward.

00:32:36.740 I mean, again, I think it's testimony to the fact they are a failed party with a failed

00:32:40.920 message.

00:32:41.760 The Biden administration was an absolute disaster, which is why I've been pushing for President

00:32:46.320 Trump to have a third term, because it's going to take time to undo the damage caused by

00:32:52.200 the Biden regime.

00:32:57.920 We're going to be in touch with some DOJ officials, so we'll make sure.

00:33:02.060 I think they should do it and put it on notification that it's under review at minimum before Election

00:33:08.180 Day, so people in New York understand the guy you're voting for may not be able to hold

00:33:12.200 the office.

00:33:12.640 But in any case, shortly after Election Day, if they haven't had a chance to get to it

00:33:17.180 all, they've got to revoke his citizenship because he lied about most basic stuff.

00:33:23.640 You can't have association with these people and become an American citizen.

00:33:26.460 And clearly saw yesterday where he lied about his aunt.

00:33:30.460 You know, he smeared the victims of 9-11 by saying, hey, his aunt was bigger because she

00:33:34.140 couldn't wear a hijab on the subways. 0.78

00:33:37.160 It turns out she's living in Tanzania, I think it is, and not even was in the United

00:33:42.940 States. 0.81

00:33:43.560 Just the guy's a stone-cold liar, right, on very basic fundamental things. 0.59

00:33:48.100 Congressman, you've been at the forefront of so much. 0.95

00:33:50.900 Something very disturbing.

00:33:52.260 Semaphore reported it yesterday, last night, about what's going on in these negotiations

00:33:57.940 with China.

00:33:58.920 You are, I would say, one of the biggest China hawks in Congress.

00:34:03.320 You are a, you're almost a decoupled guy with us, take down the CCP.

00:34:08.620 They're saying that China hawks are taking a backseat in these negotiations.

00:34:11.980 And since the CEO of NVIDIA said, hey, it's, it's not a badge of honor to be called a China

00:34:17.560 hawk.

00:34:17.860 It's actually a badge of shame that, you know, questions about Taiwan, questions about all

00:34:24.820 types of things related to confronting the Chinese Communist Party are going to come up in

00:34:28.860 these negotiations.

00:34:30.360 What are your thoughts?

00:34:31.300 You're one of the leaders of the China hawk wing of the Republican Party.

00:34:35.280 What are your thoughts on this?

00:34:37.440 Well, you know, I sounded the alarm on Biden's cognitive decline.

00:34:41.720 I've sounded the alarm on Momdani being, quite frankly, a terrorist sympathizer.

00:34:47.040 And I'm sounding the alarm, like others have, that China is an existential threat to the United 0.99

00:34:52.380 States of America.

00:34:53.560 They see us as their enemy, whereas we're a Starbucks society in that we're always looking

00:34:58.460 at tomorrow.

00:34:59.920 The Chinese, they look at it in terms of dynasty.

00:35:02.760 So they're planning out 100 years.

00:35:04.520 And that is the stark difference, is they have commingled our economies.

00:35:08.880 They've tried to make us overly dependent on them.

00:35:11.220 We saw during COVID with the supply chain disruptions that we were overly dependent on China.

00:35:16.020 If for no other reason, for diversification of one's portfolio, we need to be less dependent

00:35:21.820 on the China supply chain, whether it's India, whether it's countries in South and Central

00:35:26.720 America, there's plenty of opportunity and plenty of places we can go so that our portfolio

00:35:32.200 or supply chain portfolio is diversified.

00:35:34.340 That makes common sense.

00:35:35.480 So whether it's a natural disaster, whether it's some sort of regional conflict, we can

00:35:40.460 be overly dependent on one country.

00:35:42.940 And when we know that literally, so I'm on Homeland Security, I'm on the Cyber Subcommittee,

00:35:47.280 literally we have these intrusions.

00:35:49.160 We have these attacks from China into our critical infrastructure literally on a daily basis. 1.00

00:35:55.920 Why are we in bed with these guys?

00:35:57.420 They're trying to undo our economy.

00:35:59.580 They're trying to subvert our government.

00:36:01.000 Meanwhile, you have some of these corporations that are dependent, wholly dependent on the

00:36:06.580 Chinese government.

00:36:09.420 You were one of the first individuals, I might add also, that warned about the knife to the

00:36:13.380 throat of the heavy rare earths and how it could affect production runs.

00:36:19.080 Congressman, honored to have you on here.

00:36:20.360 By the way, I think voices like yours, you're very prescient.

00:36:23.400 You're always ahead of these issues.

00:36:25.520 I think we need a voice like you in the Senate.

00:36:27.360 I don't know if that's on the horizon, but let me just toss it out there.

00:36:31.620 Ogles, let me just throw it out there. 1.00

00:36:33.880 How could people, go ahead.

00:36:37.100 Well, I will say that if Marsha Blackburn were to win the governor's race, it would actually 0.64

00:36:41.940 be an appointment to fulfill her term. 0.96

00:36:44.580 So maybe that's in the cards.

00:36:46.020 Who knows?

00:36:46.480 With that being said, we do need, I think, more fighters in the Senate.

00:36:50.960 So whomever might get that if Marsha Senator Blackburn were to defeat John Rose or vice versa.

00:36:56.340 But that being said is, you know, we need kind of that Freedom Caucus voice in the Senate

00:37:01.120 that really becomes a conscience of the Senate and the American people, quite frankly, because

00:37:06.540 right now we dominate in the House and we're a loud voice.

00:37:10.000 But that being said, we need more of that.

00:37:11.760 And kudos to our fighters in the Senate over there. 0.97

00:37:13.780 But reach out to me.

00:37:14.760 Go to my official on Twitter, ex-Andy Ogles.

00:37:19.120 I'm easy to find.

00:37:20.100 And but I appreciate all that you do.

00:37:21.980 And quite frankly, for holding the line, you and I take a lot of arrows.

00:37:24.940 We get attacked a lot for saying those things that need to be said.

00:37:28.820 And quite frankly, that's OK.

00:37:30.440 That's why I signed up for this job.

00:37:33.560 That's OK.

00:37:34.680 Congressman Ogles, thank you so much, brother.

00:37:36.980 Appreciate you.

00:37:38.380 Absolutely.

00:37:38.740 Take care.

00:37:39.860 Had Ogles had Ogles back on Breitbart Radio a decade ago when he was just a local official

00:37:46.580 in in Raisin Holy Hell down there in Tennessee.

00:37:49.520 Barris, give me some more numbers here.

00:37:53.500 Ogles sends a warning shot on the Ugandan.

00:37:56.380 Think about that for a second.

00:37:57.600 Twenty five years after 24 years after 9-11.

00:38:01.860 We're about to they're about to elect.

00:38:04.120 This is how left wing the Democratic Party is.

00:38:08.100 This is how you know, this is how dangerous they are.

00:38:11.660 They're going to elect a Ugandan citizen who's who's who's a who's a Marxist jihadist

00:38:18.520 lied on his forms to get naturalized.

00:38:21.440 We have no idea where his money comes from.

00:38:23.940 We think a lot of it comes from Qatar through the through the mother of the mother's family.

00:38:28.940 And they're going to take over New York City and they ain't going to give it up.

00:38:31.960 This is why President Trump, you have a list of what what you're saying,

00:38:35.720 your analytics of the electorate right now are telling President Trump where the focus has to be.

00:38:43.180 Yeah, it's exactly right.

00:38:44.600 And Momdani is a warning, Steve.

00:38:46.260 But the warning is that we're going to get populism one way or the other.

00:38:50.940 I mean, this is something the Republican Party also has to come to grips with.

00:38:54.560 Momdani is winning because he is a resurgence of left wing populism.

00:38:58.280 That's dangerous because it comes in the form of communism, which ends with us lined up against the wall.

00:39:02.800 But that's the reality. I mean, that's what voters wanted.

00:39:06.400 Cuomo wasn't populist enough. They had enough of what he was as governor.

00:39:10.360 I mean, he lost his primary for a reason.

00:39:12.720 I just want to say this to those rich people that Congressman Ogles was just talking about.

00:39:18.000 I don't want them in Florida. I don't want them in North Carolina.

00:39:20.720 They've been bankrolling this for years.

00:39:22.760 If you just look at securities and insurance, which is the industry from Wall Street, on OpenSecrets.org, folks, this isn't hard.

00:39:30.800 The New York financial class has been bankrolling Democrats and these ideas since Donald Trump came down the escalator.

00:39:38.500 They had a brief reprieve and backed Mitt Romney to some degree.

00:39:43.480 They basically hedged their bets that year.

00:39:45.240 But they've been a part of this.

00:39:47.160 They've been responsible for this.

00:39:49.320 So, I mean, I don't have many tears to cry for them.

00:39:53.440 But, you know, the bottom line is that people are thinking about voting for somebody like Mimdani because, I mean, if you look at that chart, if you put it up right now, you'll see.

00:40:01.700 These are all pocketbook issues.

00:40:03.780 And cost of living, inflation, can I get a better paying job, even health care, which has been a number five, number six issue for years.

00:40:11.700 It's back in the top three now, which, I mean, the reason why we do rank distribution like this is because it gives us a deeper understanding of not just one issue.

00:40:20.240 That's the number one issue that people are voting on, but a much deeper understanding of what issues collectively are circulating in people's minds when they go to, you know, to pull that level, fill in that bubble.

00:40:30.580 And they're all economic issues, Steve.

00:40:33.500 I mean, this is – I mean, the good news is, you know, that study that you cited, I reviewed that the other day actually, you know, climate change, the environment, all of these woke issues that the Democratic Party chooses to focus on, they're way down at the bottom.

00:40:47.440 But somebody like Mondani caught fire because he did – he struck a nerve.

00:40:51.480 He's talking about the issues that people want to hear right now, and we may not like the solutions from him.

00:40:58.660 But again, at the end of the day, I think corporate republicanism, corporate democratic – you know, whatever, those parties are dead.

00:41:08.280 They're gone.

00:41:09.260 They have gone the way of the dodo, you know, and we're either going to end up with left-wing populism or we're going to end up with right-wing populism.

00:41:15.460 That's it.

00:41:16.300 That's the trajectory this country is on.

00:41:19.340 Well, he puts a veneer of populism on it and talks about affordability, but he's really – if you look at him, he's really a Marxist, right?

00:41:26.620 Yeah, I agree.

00:41:27.280 He's a Marxist jihadist.

00:41:28.360 He's the red-green alliance, and that's why he's got – he's dominating because he's got progressives, and clearly he's got 38 percent right now.

00:41:38.060 And maybe the numbers are going to be wrong on election day.

00:41:40.260 He's got 38 percent of the Jewish vote.

00:41:42.160 He's got the overwhelming majority of the foreign-born vote.

00:41:46.140 This is where all these immigration – all the illegal aliens and particularly all the H-1Bs, it's all coming home to roost. 1.00

00:41:53.100 You've just got to face reality.

00:41:55.020 And in these big cities, it's going to be Mondami's – it's going to be Mondami's policies.

00:42:00.100 Before we let you bounce, anything else you got, Richard?

00:42:02.440 When is this study coming out because the numbers are shocking, and it just shows you what President Trump – these are his core issues, just a little more refocus on this.

00:42:12.860 After he finishes stopping the Third World War, we'll have tremendous benefits. 0.97

00:42:17.920 What else do you think is important?

00:42:19.940 Yeah, I was just going to bring up that other study actually, Steve.

00:42:24.000 I mean that's obviously – there's so much there.

00:42:26.920 It's another segment.

00:42:27.700 But we did do an oversampling of trans and binary because of the – I don't want to say talking points.

00:42:35.420 And we wanted to see whether there was validity to some of the claims that you'll hear from people on the right dealing with political violence.

00:42:42.460 And, you know, spoiler alert, there is validity to it.

00:42:47.040 We can do that if you want.

00:42:50.040 Hang on.

00:42:50.340 There's a lot on it.

00:42:51.460 Yeah, yeah.

00:42:51.980 Hang on.

00:42:52.660 No, no, no.

00:42:53.200 I want to hold you and come back in the next segment.

00:42:58.360 We're also going to talk about these groomer gangs in the United Kingdom.

00:43:02.480 What does it mean for us?

00:43:04.260 Short break.

00:43:04.840 We will fight till they're all gone.

00:43:09.740 We rejoice when there's no more. 0.70

00:43:11.540 Well, let's take down the CCP.

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00:46:21.460 Richard Barris, the second part of your study about the increasing – how do I say this?

00:46:30.080 Basically plunge into darkness of the left and particularly violence.

00:46:34.860 Yeah, Steve, the headline for this survey is that there's a growing tolerance toward political violence.

00:46:45.720 It is more so on the left.

00:46:47.600 I mean, of course, you're going to find it with both sides, but it's overwhelmingly more on the left.

00:46:51.700 That is true.

00:46:52.380 And it's directly tied to how – and this is interesting because the public still does cite the media and political organizations as the reason for this.

00:47:03.980 They understand where these feelings come from.

00:47:07.480 But it's tied to how in danger you personally feel from the other side, from the views of the opposing side.

00:47:15.020 So when we looked at different demographics like transgender issue, right, we saw a slew of mass shootings that occurred but also just online behavior that we've all witnessed toward the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the attempted assassination of Donald Trump, which we ask people specifically about.

00:47:34.280 There's this idea that, you know what, I think these people are a danger to me, so they had it coming.

00:47:40.220 I mean, that is the prevalent mindset on that side.

00:47:44.360 And we flatly ask people whether or not they blamed the mental health of the perpetrators, whether they blamed other things in society or the people themselves for getting shot.

00:47:55.420 And what's terrifying is that, again, it is in line with this concept that, you know what, if Donald Trump didn't say these things, he wouldn't have gotten shot at.

00:48:05.240 So this is really his fault.

00:48:07.280 This is – and they're tolerant to that.

00:48:09.980 So in other words, let me try to – and I know I'm trying to do this, but we don't think like this, so it's hard for me to get other people to understand what we found.

00:48:17.080 But these people basically think these are not bad acts because they think that in the future they'll probably have saved somebody's life.

00:48:27.000 So in their minds and in the story that they are telling themselves in their own heads, these people, the perpetrators, aren't the bad guys.

00:48:34.500 They're actually the heroes of these stories in their minds.

00:48:37.540 It's twisted, but the sad part is it's getting to the point where it's overwhelming.

00:48:42.760 So just to give you a stat, a little less than one in five, which is still a big number, would express to us that they think that it's actually the fault of the victim, that they were victims of political violence.

00:48:55.900 But when you look at trans demographics, we had to oversample it.

00:48:59.060 There's not a lot of trans-identifying people in this country, but we had to oversample it. 0.99

00:49:03.220 When you look at them, Steve, half of them think that they brought it on themselves, right?

00:49:08.380 And whether or not we asked other questions, you have to pry true feelings out of people.

00:49:13.320 We asked something along the lines of some people just hold political views that are so bad that violence against these people should be tolerated, all right?

00:49:24.180 And when you're getting numbers, half of a demographic that strongly agree with that statement, you have a big problem in this country.

00:49:32.060 And that's the kind of numbers we got from trans, people who identify as trans, even just your run-of-the-mill Democrats, Steve, are twice as likely to say that they strongly agreed with that statement than the rest of the country.

00:49:44.040 So this is – I don't know what the solution is because they know where it comes from.

00:49:50.520 They know they're hearing this stuff in the media.

00:49:52.600 They know that political organizations put together these clips and disseminate them on social media intentionally to get these feelings to rise up in people.

00:50:02.040 They know it, and they don't care.

00:50:05.540 So I don't – and what I mean by that is they know they're being played.

00:50:09.340 But do they – are you saying the more it becomes evident to them that they can't win elections fairly, that they're increasingly getting violent and that they believe that violence is actually a way to either even the playing field or to get retribution and or to potentially win?

00:50:30.340 I do think that they're starting to look at violence as a remedy because the more they lose, the more fear they say they have because the more they lose, the less power they have in government to exercise, whether it's police state power to protect them from all these perceived threats or just to advance their agenda.

00:50:49.740 The more they lose, the more dangerous they're actually going to get.

00:50:53.260 So it's – this is a huge problem.

00:50:57.080 Again, I don't know what the answer is, but the more elections people on the right win, the more unsafe they're going to say they are.

00:51:04.400 The more unsafe they are, the more violent they're going to get.

00:51:07.260 That's how – and they – that's how they rationalize it, and they think that's okay.

00:51:12.580 So it's becoming – it's – it is mainstream too.

00:51:16.140 This is what I – the warning I issued online yesterday when we put some of this out is that this isn't something that's isolated to, like, a lower educated part of the population or a socioeconomic class.

00:51:28.700 It's everywhere.

00:51:30.040 I mean, you're going to see it and you're going to be – you're going to find these people in lawyers' offices.

00:51:34.060 You're going to find them on Wall Street.

00:51:35.560 You're going to find them running for office in the state of Virginia.

00:51:38.220 They think it's okay, and this is something that grows up right underneath our noses, Steve, and we just – not enough of us said something about it as it was happening, and now we have a real problem, a big problem.

00:51:51.280 Well, this is why the GOP was just a – you know, just was too soft to fight back on this.

00:51:58.840 We've got to bounce.

00:51:59.560 Richard, where do they go social media to get all this analysis?

00:52:02.220 Quite brilliant.

00:52:03.540 Locals is the best place, Steve.

00:52:05.320 Peoplespundit.locals.com.

00:52:07.480 Thanks, brother.

00:52:08.220 All the best.

00:52:09.300 Thank you, brother.

00:52:10.740 Appreciate it.

00:52:11.500 Amazing.

00:52:12.920 As Poso says, MAGA or Mandani?

00:52:18.760 Jack's going to be with us next.

00:52:21.300 This is what being controlled opposition for decades and decades and decades against the radical left end up here.

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Bannon's War Room - October 28, 2025

Episode 4883： Polling Shows Populism Grows On Both Left And Right

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