Claire Dooley is a documentary filmmaker who has been making films for the past 10 years about health freedom. She is the host of the show The Moment of Truth, hosted by Stephen K. Bannon and hosted by Claire Dooley. In this episode, Claire talks with Tony Lyons about the MMR vaccine and why it s a crime against humanity.
00:03:08.000Any kind of developmental delays or disabilities.
00:03:12.000I mean, who do you know who's in a wheelchair, who's had to have a stent put in their heart, who's had to be in and out of the hospitals, in and out of urgent cares?
00:03:18.000I mean, this is an issue that is way more pervasive.
00:03:22.000This affects every single American human being.
00:03:26.000And I think that that's why the Posse needs to be here.
00:03:59.000Yeah, I mean, 76% of the American public suffers from a chronic disease.
00:04:04.000You know, that is an epidemic of just unheard of proportion.
00:04:09.000So all around the world, countries spend less money and have so much better health outcomes.
00:04:14.000And that's because we have captured government agencies, we have corrupt public officials, and we have these big companies that are controlling everything.
00:04:57.000I mean, a very big part of why the media is controlled is that 70% of the advertising for major networks comes from pharmaceutical companies.
00:05:07.000So if we could change that, we could really make big progress.
00:05:12.000You know, CNN has said that it's as much as 70%.
00:05:19.000So, you know, it's not always going to be true.
00:05:21.000But it's an incredible percentage of the advertising comes from these companies that are lying to the public, that are poisoning the public.
00:05:29.000And then the result of that, then, is that when Bobby Kennedy comes out and when his whole team comes out and they start to tell the truth for the first time in a generation, we get these incredible smear campaigns.
00:05:42.000So we get these companies going to war against people who are telling the truth to the public because they want to protect their revenue stream.
00:05:51.000They want to protect these incredible profits that have made it so that we spend three times the amount of money on healthcare in this country than any of the other 30 industrialized countries.
00:06:06.000And we have much worse health outcomes.
00:06:09.000We were just actually talking about that.
00:06:10.000You know, like, if you went into a store and you spent three times as much money as the store next to it, you would expect that you would leave with a better outcome.
00:06:18.000And so we also, you know, what's happening right now, the government's shut down.
00:06:22.000Democrats are talking about reform with Obamacare.
00:06:25.000They're trying to hint at making America healthier by just still dumping more and more money into the same systems that are making us sick.
00:06:34.000So at Maha Action, we're doing something different.
00:06:38.000Let's talk a little bit about what we're doing at Maha Action.
00:06:41.000Yeah, so there are all kinds of different things that are big priorities for us.
00:06:45.000But one of them is to lower the toxic load on every American.
00:06:51.000So we're not going to get rid of all chemicals.
00:06:54.000We're not going to get rid of all toxins in food.
00:07:00.000And that's what we're really trying to fight back on.
00:07:03.000So what's happening is that we need to not have liability shields for anything, not for vaccines, not for pesticides, not for chemicals in food.
00:07:14.000I mean, this is a system that's set up to protect these companies, not to protect the American public.
00:07:21.000And we need to start protecting our children.
00:07:24.000That, I think, makes you a conspiracy theorist and a misinformation spreader today.
00:07:29.000Yeah, let me just tell you about these words, you know, that have been co-opted.
00:07:40.000These words are pharmaceutical company talking points.
00:07:44.000They're meant to control the narrative.
00:07:46.000Anybody who really believes in science believes in dialogue, they believe in debate, and they relish anybody coming forward and contradicting them.
00:07:57.000You have to be able to stand up and defend your point of view.
00:08:01.000Not by censoring people, not by lying to people, not by threatening to people, not by deplatforming people, but by having a better argument.
00:08:09.000Yeah, actually, the Maha Institute just had an amazing roundtable last month called the Weaponization of Science.
00:08:16.000I had the privilege of being there and helping with production, and it was an incredible roundtable.
00:08:22.000They really digged into, you know, how science has been co-opted.
00:08:59.000So we want science changing all the time.
00:09:01.000Any doctor will tell you that when they went to medical school, their medical books were just littered with things that turn out not to be true.
00:09:10.000But they were the best that we had at the time.
00:09:12.000And that's always going to be true, that every moment, every year, things are changing.
00:09:34.000And when you say that, it actually kind of brings up some thoughts for me.
00:09:37.000You know, being from a small town in Mississippi, the majority of my family are not university college educated.
00:09:43.000And so I feel like a lot of times this can also become a classist issue, right?
00:09:49.000You have people who went to university who, you know, think that they are better than the average American, you know, working class member, better than people on the posse, you know, whoever that is.
00:09:59.000And they think that they can then look down upon them and say, oh, no, you're spreading misinformation.
00:10:04.000When, for example, a mother takes her child in to the doctor, she knows her child better than anyone else.
00:10:11.000That child gets five shots in one day, goes home, starts banging their head, screaming for hours on end, has seizures.
00:10:19.000She goes back to the doctor, says, oh, my gosh, my kid's sick.
00:10:23.000And what did that, you know, university medical industry doctor say?
00:10:35.000I mean, the American citizens are being gaslit and saying, oh, you have to believe in science, believe in us, have faith in us.
00:10:42.000This is pretty much a preview of actually scientism, which we can touch on later in the show.
00:10:49.000Joe Allen is a great expert that comes on often about that.
00:10:54.000Yeah, but these are really great points that, you know, the leaders who we've had over the last generation, they've lied their ways to the top.
00:11:15.000He kept getting paid more and more money to the extent that he was getting paid more than the president.
00:11:20.000He was really the most powerful person in the country for a long period of time, and he had never succeeded in anything.
00:11:27.000Children were sicker and sicker year after year.
00:11:31.000So, you know, this is not what happens in a private company.
00:11:34.000This is not what happens in any other area.
00:11:37.000But it happens in a government that's become co-opted, that's become corrupt, that's become run by these people whose sole purpose is to extract as much money from the American public as they possibly can,
00:11:50.000while telling parents that they're crazy by ignoring the health of their own children.
00:11:56.000I mean, what could be more despicable than that?
00:13:48.000One of the things that you should have gotten from that clip is that, you know, they want to portray Secretary Kennedy and President Trump as being a danger to the public, you know, that their public health views are a danger.
00:14:01.000And the truth is that they're just a danger to corporate profits.
00:14:07.000They're a danger to this corrupt system that's poisoned the American public.
00:14:11.000And when you look at some of the facts and there's one fact that I think a lot of you will will really like to hear, which will resonate with you, and that is that during covid where we were told that people were crazy, people were dangerous, who wouldn't get vaccinated.
00:14:26.000But during that exact period of time, we let 10 million unvaccinated people come across the border.
00:22:24.000So these two people next to me, Tony Lyons, Lee Marinoff, I am so proud to be in the room with you and to even get to work with you.
00:22:31.000Maha Action is doing a lot of incredible work all the time.
00:22:36.000I'm so proud to see, you know, there's this new Maha report every single, there's several times a day the Maha report goes out.
00:22:42.000You can learn about what's going on when it comes to Maha in our country.
00:22:48.000Tony and Lee, I have a question for you, Tony.
00:22:53.000When all this was going on, you know, what is that like as the president of Maha?
00:22:59.000And then we have Lee here who's running across the country.
00:23:02.000You know, how are you guys working together to make it happen?
00:23:06.000Well, you know, much of it is, it's a question of, you know, I see this as a cultural war just as much as it's a war to change what governors do, to change what states do, you know, because the legal system works slowly.
00:23:24.000And what we've seen in a very short period of time is that the whole narrative has begun to change.
00:23:30.000And so there were words that one year ago nobody had heard of.
00:23:56.000Nobody really knew what that was one year ago.
00:23:58.000And, you know, even more importantly, nobody thought that it was okay to talk about whether vaccines were safe or not.
00:24:06.000Or to talk about whether pesticides on vegetables were safe.
00:24:11.000Or to talk about, you know, all kinds of different drugs.
00:24:15.000So we were at this point where 95% of the population in certain areas like vaccines, maybe it was 98%, were just totally brainwashed.
00:24:24.000And now that's been blown wide open so that people really believe that they can talk about anything.
00:24:30.000And that is such an incredible change.
00:24:33.000And what we need to do is look at that rate of change.
00:24:36.000But also look at the fact that this Maha movement is just an incredible gift to the Republican Party.
00:24:43.000And we want to make sure that the Republican Party recognizes that.
00:24:47.000And I believe that Republicans all around the country, 90 or 95% of them, really do recognize that and want that and are begging their politicians to back the Maha movement.
00:25:03.000I mean, isn't, when it comes to Maha being able to swing an election, isn't it something like, give us the numbers on, you know, what kind of voting base we have now?
00:26:16.000As we traveled around the country, I've spoken with so many just random people that said that they, outside of their doctor's advice, just changed their diets.
00:26:28.000And many of them, I've met so many people that have lost 100 pounds.
00:26:49.000And I'm telling you, if we flip school lunches, if we change the food in hospitals, if we get Americans to not be as diabetic as they are now,
00:26:58.000and that happens under President Trump and Secretary Kennedy, we are heroes.
00:27:03.000And that is the road we're going down.
00:27:05.000That is the message that we need to push.
00:27:07.000And these are not people that even have heard anything about Maha.
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00:28:52.000All right, I'm Claire Dooley. We're live from the Children's Health Defense Conference 2025 Moment of Truth in Austin, Texas.
00:29:09.000I have Tony Lyons, president of Maha Action, joining me, and Lee Marinoff.
00:29:15.000Tony, we were talking a little bit over the break about how some Democrats say that we need to – we don't want to medicate the – sorry, it was about the food, right?
00:29:30.000So we want to feed people to keep them from getting sick, but the food that we're giving them is actually making them sick.
00:29:35.000You want to talk a little bit more about that?
00:29:37.000The idea is that there's not that much food, that there are a lot of poor people, and that we have to just get them calories.
00:29:45.000So the idea there is just so crazy because, you know, they say, well, we can't afford to have healthy food.
00:29:52.000But, Tony, we can't afford not to have healthy food.
00:29:56.000Right, and, you know, eating unhealthy food actually costs the government more.
00:30:02.000So if you look at Medicare or Medicaid, they're responsible for these people's health for their whole lives.
00:30:08.000So if they get a chronic disease later, we as taxpayers have to pay for that.
00:30:13.000So, you know, it really is true now that the Democratic Party has started to say, well, pesticides aren't really so bad for you.
00:30:23.000Ultra-processed foods aren't so bad for you.
00:30:25.000The New York Times runs these articles and you have people going on to, you know, Instagram eating, you know, glasses filled with food dyes.
00:30:34.000So, you know, this is just a really crazy point, and it gets back to the idea that this is such a gift to the Republican Party,
00:30:42.000that Maha really has the ability to galvanize millions and millions of voters who recognize that they're just being lied to,
00:30:50.000that these ideas are bad ideas and they're unhealthy and they're killing our children.
00:30:56.000Well, I totally agree with that, Tony.
00:30:59.000And the thing is, is there are a few things that we have to change right now.
00:31:03.000Because a lot of times people get unhealthy food and they eat it because they don't know how to cook.
00:31:10.000We need to teach Americans how to cook again as a normal part of the day.
00:31:16.000To take a chicken, to throw it in a pot of water, to make a soup, to make a stew, to make something that lasts, that has leftovers.
00:31:24.000Leftovers have to be the new common theme in a family group.
00:31:28.000We need to have a Sunday where you cook several meals for the week.
00:31:34.000And I think our job is to figure out how to make that possible.
00:31:39.000How do people afford it? How do they do it?
00:31:42.000And I think that's a lot of what Maha Action can do to support HHS and we can support President Trump.