Episode 4914： Trump Pardons Electors Of 2020; Marines 250
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A list of 77 people who received pardons, including Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows, John Eastman, Kenneth Cheesebro, Boris Epstein, and Sidney Powell, among others, was released on social media late last night.
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Weeping pardons for several key allies who backed his effort to subvert the 2020 election results.
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That's according to the president's so-called clemency czar, Justice Department pardon attorney
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Ed Martin, who released a list on social media late last night that includes the names of 77
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people who received pardons. They include Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows, John Eastman,
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Kenneth Cheesebro, Boris Epstein, and Sidney Powell, among others. Now, Politico points out that the
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pardons are largely symbolic because none of those identified were charged with any federal crimes.
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Additionally, the document posted online is also undated, so it's not clear exactly when President
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Trump signed it. The pardon language explicitly states it does not apply to Trump himself.
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The White House and Justice Department did not immediately respond to requests for comments.
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So, Ken, there's a lot to sift through here. You know, we know that President Trump has stacked
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his administration with some of those previous 2020 election deniers, those who claim falsely
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that he won the election. And symbolic or not, this is another symbol here that he's simply
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not going to play by the rules and that these are people who he is yet another example of this
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administration, where he has taken, used the powers of government to punish his foes,
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and in this case, reward his friends, those who do his bidding.
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Mark Wolfe explains his decision to step down as a senior U.S. district judge in Massachusetts.
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My reason is simple. I no longer can bear to be restrained by what judges can say publicly or do
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outside the courtroom. President Donald Trump is using the law for partisan purposes,
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targeting his adversaries while sparing his friends and donors from investigation, prosecution,
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and possible punishment. This is contrary to everything that I have stood for in my more than
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50 years in the Department of Justice and on the bench. The White House's assault on the rule of law
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is so deeply disturbing to me that I feel compelled to speak out. Silence for me is now intolerable.
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I'd say it's a bit more than symbolic, Jonathan, in the sense that some of these people were clearly
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considered unindicted co-conspirators by Jack Smith in the investigation of the false elector
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scheme that resulted in the indictment of Donald Trump. And they were certainly at risk of being
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charged federally. Now, of course, that was never going to happen during this administration,
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and there's a statute of limitations problem. But often there are ways to get around statutes of
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limitations. And so some of these people had some real risk of being charged criminally
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in the false elector scheme if a Democrat or someone who's not like-minded with Donald Trump
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becomes the next president and controls the Justice Department. So this is a big deal. And it's just a
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continuation of what is happening within the Trump administration in terms of pardoning people who've
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committed very serious offenses, in this case, haven't been charged with offenses, but are believed
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by many people to have engaged in misconduct. And just it's about the political whims of Donald Trump.
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It's about who he likes and who he wants to help. And if you believe a certain way that was in his
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interests, you're liable for a pardon, whether it's Jelaine Maxwell or or people who engaged in this
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false elector scheme. Now, the thing to remember is there are still there were state attorneys,
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general investigations into various false elector schemes around the country. It's unclear exactly
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what's happening with those. But these pardons, of course, would not apply to state charges.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. You've just not got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people, the people
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have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do everything
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in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen. And where do people
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like that go to share the big line? MAGA Media. I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people
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had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose? If that answer is to save
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my country, this country will be saved. War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
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It's Monday, 10 November in the year of our Lord. 2025 is the 250th anniversary of the birth of the
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Marine Corps or the Continental Marines to be specific. We're going to be covering this all day.
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We've got Eric Prince is going to join us. Jack Posobics up in Philadelphia. We're going to go live
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momentarily to Philadelphia, which is the home of the birthplace of the Marines at Tun Tavern. We'll be
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going there with a group of Marines that fought in Vietnam for a commemoration. So throughout the
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morning, we'll be going back and forth between the Marines. And there's a massive amount of breaking
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news here in the Capitol. Honored to be joined by Ed Martin, one of the greats. Ed, by the way,
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this is what happens when the studio's on Capitol Hill. You don't know who's going to turn. Literally,
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we're about to go with a broader cold over everything. Is that Ed Martin? Come on in here, boy.
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Ed, at the cold open, we could have played an hour worth of commentary from the Morning Joe's and
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from Ken, was it Delanian over at NBC? No, he's the comms director for combing these guys. Just walk
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the audience through about these pardons so everybody understands. And then I want to get to,
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I guess, this report you put out subsequently about the whole rationale behind it. Walk us through
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first. What exactly happened? Well, thanks a lot, Stephen. Semper Fi. Semper Fi. Thanks. My brother's a
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Marine. Jim Marks. Yeah, my brother's a Marine. Yeah, yeah. He served overseas, all the wars and
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all. And he's a hero. He's the real hero. So to my mother, Jim, and all the Marines, thank you. I
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put something up on X today, Steve. I said, as long as America has the Marines, we'll never fail. We'll
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never fall, right? We've got the Marines. So look, this, I became a U.S. partner attorney. I was
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planning on being U.S. attorney in Washington, D.C., right? I was enjoying that. You had quite a run.
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I had quite a run. I had quite a run. I will say some of the stories. No, the establishment was
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not just the progressive Democrats. The Republican establishment was absolutely shaking. They have a
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they have a guy in there that's a law and order guy. Yeah. So, well, and it was really important
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work. And and I loved it. And I had hoped to do it for the whole four years. And the Lord has
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different plans. And when I spun around and the president said, we're going to withdraw your
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nomination, he said, but I want you to keep fighting. And he and I said, I'll do what you want,
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sir. And he said, I want you to be the U.S. partner attorney. And I thought, OK, like because
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I care a lot about the pardons because what they did and the anti weapon. Yeah, I was going
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to get to that. Right. So he says part attorney. I thought, well, I care about that. I care
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about the J6ers, the FACE Act, the pro-lifers. That first week in office, I'll never forget.
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I'd never been in the Oval Office. OK, so it's January 24th or 3rd. And I go in there because
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the president's signing a pardon for two cops, MPD cops that were sent to jail for being honest
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brokers and chasing a bad guy through the streets. And he looked at me first time in
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the Oval Office. I'm nervous as can be looked at me. He said, there's a good part. These
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are good pardons. Right. And I said, yes, sir. And he said, we're do the right thing for
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the cops. I said, yes, sir. And he said, did the MPD tell you they like it? I said, yeah,
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they do, sir. And he's like, great. Signed it. I mean, we had great work. So the partner
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attorney, I thought it's important. But then he said, I want you to run the weaponization
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committee. And the anti weaponization. Well, anti weaponization. But the first thing is to
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to shine a light. And I've said this before. Name and shame. I mean, look, when
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Bondi gave us the memo, General Bondi, the memo, the first one is Jack Smith. First one
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to investigate is Jack Smith. We look at Jack Smith and I'm in the middle of this still.
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What you see is Jack Smith was targeting who? The electors, the alternate electors across
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the country. Jack Smith thought he was going to be one of the famous lawyers who tried what
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I call a maxi trial in the 1990s in Sicily. They tried all the organized crime. Jack Smith
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thought he was that guy, except he was the guy running the conspiracy. He was the he was the
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guy doing this stuff. So when we looked at it, one of the president said, pardon attorney.
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And I said, OK, hang on. Hang on. Maxi trial. He wanted to put hundreds on trial at the same
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time. Yeah. Sorry. I got distracted, but it's important because it plays into what happened.
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Yes. Jack Smith's vision was charge hundreds of people across the country, all the alternate
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electors, all the people that put their head up and said lawyers, all the lawyers charge a
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maxi trial and get. And then when he's done, O'Bannon, everybody around the president and
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the president and the president. And he only lost. He only ran out of time because guys
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like Todd Blanche, my current boss, John Larrow, they fought it off and they fought this guy
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off and he stopped him. So anyway, when the president says, I want you to do the weaponization
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and the partner attorney, I looked at it. I said, the partner attorney. And then, Steve,
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you lived it, but I learned it. You have a chance present. And he loves this. You have a chance
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to give real mercy and give people that were wronged a break. So I get in and he says to
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me two things. He said, one is there's people that deserve a break that are in jail, in prison,
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find them and help them get a break as it served a long time and all. But he said, the second
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one was weaponized against us by Biden and Obama, by the way, and just the government. And we started
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looking at that. And this, the electors across the country, the pardon that came out today was
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pardoning these electors because they did what? They did the exact same thing that in 1960,
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the Democrats did in Hawaii. There were three Democrat alternate electors and nobody said a word.
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It's exactly what you do when you operate the constitution, not when you don't. And Steve,
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here's the thing. You're Steve Bannon. Out in the country, in the States, frankly, more normal
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people, regular guys and gals put their hand up and said, I'll be an alternate elector to help.
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They were the county chair. They were a local judge. And Jack Smith and his team and Fannie
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Willis, they destroyed these people. And so you had people borrowing against college funds,
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Going into their retirement, selling their house.
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And so my point was to the president was we should pardon these folks. And he said, research it.
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And Bondi and Blanche said, research it, get it right and tight and we'll consider it. And we did it
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and we got it all together. And I asked probably 50. I didn't ask you, Steve. I should have 50 lawyers
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and top people thinking about it. How do you look at this? And what you described was the working
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document that we put together, which is, it describes exactly what happened. The people in
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this country operated within the rules and the law and the constitution, and they were brutalized by it.
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And so the pardon attempts to start to change that. And I think it's the opening. I know because
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So, and that's part of the document that you put out subsequently. It kind of explained your
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How does this go? Because these are state charges and you've got some pretty radical AGs,
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particularly in Arizona and some of these other states that are going to sit there and go,
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hey, Donald Trump and Ed Martin can do all they want, but we're going to triple down on these
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people and grind them into dust, which they've been doing.
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Right. A couple of things. One, there's a broad argument that the, that the pardon can apply
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to state charges that I leave to others for, for fighting it out. But there is in the history of
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the country, of course, you go back in time at the very beginning, the charges, a pardon operated
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against any crime against the United States at the period early on, you were pardoning local
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charges too. That's a different debate. I don't think right now we win that in the courts,
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but I'll just say this. If you charge somebody for forgery or obstruction of justice and the underlying
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crime that you're claiming is forgery or obstruction of justice is definitively,
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the government says it wasn't a crime. There was no victims. There was no cost. You take the wind
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out of the sails of the argument. What are you doing? And what becomes clear and should be clear
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Targeting. It's targeting people for politics and otherwise. And look, out in Wisconsin,
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there's a guy named Judge Troopas. He spent his whole career. It's like Eastman, Dean Eastman,
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whole career. Not like you and me. These people are quality lawyers and thinkers. They're not in the fray
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like we are. And they get destroyed. Their reputations, 70-year-old man destroyed.
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Troopas came up here and testified at the end of the time. He was fantastic.
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Fantastic. Assault to the earth, smart guy. And so they destroy these people without blinking an eye.
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And it's truly, truly the conduct is evil that the people deserve to be named and shamed and held
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accountable in every way. How did the president respond when you went to him with your package to do
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this? From the very beginning, President Trump, from the very beginning, two things I'd say. One
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is he has a heart for anybody who's been wronged by government. He feels it. He lived it himself.
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But the second thing is he loves, as you know, he says things like, I like it. I like it. Go do this,
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He goes through the details and comes back with some great guidance.
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And he said to me, go do this. Don't forget this. And then what he always says, Steve,
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is he says, do it right. Like, go do it and do it right. And so I got to tell you,
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people argued against it, for it internally, externally. And the president was like, we got
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to, like I say it all the time, no MAGA left behind. We're not in a time where we could debate
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this. People that were wronged by the Biden administration were targeted because of what
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they believed and who they were. That's without a doubt now. It's not a debatable point. We
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got to try to fix that in every way we possibly can.
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We're going to get into that thing. Let's take a, by the way, we have the, we're going
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to go out with the Marine Corps, with the Marine Corps hymn all day today, both the morning
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and the afternoon show. Michael Paxson will join us tonight at 10 p.m. Eastern Standard
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Time. It'll be the world premiere on PBS. 17 years after we made the film, we'll play
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the last 600 meters. We'll be prime time on PBS tonight, 10 p.m. We're going to have
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Michael Pack, other Marines from Iraq and Afghanistan, the current wars, folks today
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from Vietnam. All day long, we're commemorating the 250th birthday of the United States Marine
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Corps. And as Ed Martin just said, as long as we've got the Marines, the United States
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cannot be defeated. Let's take a short break. Ed Martin, in the house, next in the war room.
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Okay, well, by the way, I was very concerned. Literally, we scooped Ed Martin up from the streets
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of the Capitol. You've got the Clumbo jacket on. I thought you were doing a Letitia
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James hunting for another house up here. She got one on Capitol Hill. No, no. I just was out doing
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some business, Steve. I don't like to tell you why I was in the neighborhood. We'll just leave
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it at that. That's the D-web. You put out also something in addition about the 2020. I mean,
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one of the things that we keep pressing is that we have to adjudicate 2020. Yes. It's absolutely,
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it's the railhead of so much of the problem in the country. Right. And now you've seen the Autopin,
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you know, the Autopin pardons, the Autopin executive orders, which I think are even worse.
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Tell me, why did you put this out today at the same time? Well, you know, two things. One is,
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you know, Kurt Olson. Kurt Olson was recently appointed by the president to work on election
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integrity. What people may not know, and it's not a secret, is that inside DOJ, myself and a couple
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others have been working also on the same topic. So, you know, you see whether it's Fulton County
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has these ballots we're worried about. Why are we not, why do we have some U.S. Marshals to go down
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season? Yeah, everybody thinks it's, look, yeah, everybody thinks it's easier. It's a challenge.
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Look, we've got to get them. And my bet is they're not there. I've always thought that they say they're
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there and that they're, I think they're long ago shredded because of, and destroyed. But that's
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just my own opinion. We'll see. But more importantly, there is a court that, let me say, let me say,
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that's just me guessing as, as important as they are. Because you don't think they, they don't think you
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keep the evidence around that they would put them all in prison. At this point, it's four and a half
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years later, they're fighting to keep them secret. The court ordered them being held. The clerk has
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them supposedly down the hall. They won't let us see them to review them. Like what, if they want
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to prove that the election was fine, show it to us. We have enough concerns. We've raised enough
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serious concerns. So my thinking is if it's that important to them, who knows what happened. But
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we'll see. I'm just me reacting to how much they fought. But so why, when the president, when we
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talked about the pardon of these alternate electors, at the heart of it was a desire, it seemed,
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the conduct of these electors, they were being shut down. They were being silenced. And why?
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And the question was, what happened in the 2020 election? And so when we went back and looked at
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it, our goal was to pardon these electors. And when you pardon the alternate electors,
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you got to make the case and look closely at it. And what we saw was people, again,
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ordinary Americans, Steve, regular people, and their lawyers and others saying, let's use the system the
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way we're supposed to. And what they were doing, they were targeted for that. So what we saw and
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what we're laying out is what happened that they targeted? Why did they target it? What were the
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steps that were taken? And I think it all becomes a question to answer what happened with 2020. And
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again, General Bondi has put us on his task. She's not, she said to us, keep pushing, keep figuring it
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out. And so we're doing that. So in other words, keep pushing because we have to adjudicate with
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transparency in the public 2020, the stealing of the 2020 election. Anytime you see wholesale misconduct
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and targeting American people, whether it's illegal or it's outside of the term limits or anything else,
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excuse me, the statute of limitations, you still have to take a look at it. You don't get to say
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walk away when there's misconduct. So we now have regular misconduct against American citizens.
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When you see that, you say, let's go figure out what happened. And we're going to get to the bottom
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of it. I'm very confident it's happening faster than people can realize. And look, I've told you
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before, I get a lot of grief from the TV people. If you do something wrong and we can prosecute
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you, we're going to, we're going to find it and get you. If you did it and you somehow dodged
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accountability, we're going to name you. And as I've said before, we're going to name and shame people.
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They deserve to be embarrassed for what they did to people. They deserve to have shame for what they
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did to people. And that's part of the process. That's always part of the process. So we're really
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excited about the truth getting out. And more importantly, I've heard from people this morning
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that have said, thank you to president Trump for being on their side, right? For not forgetting
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what's gone on. One thing you say, name and shame. What about the next step? You will prosecute where
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you can, where you can prosecute everywhere. What about the state? Just one more time, because you're
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dealing with some of the most radical attorney generals in the country, particularly Arizona,
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you know, places like that come to mind. What is your plan for, for these folks? Well, there's a couple
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things. One of the things when you start to look at the facts of this is that you realize that there
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were a series of nonprofits set up, you know, Norm Eisen was in this space, Georgetown University
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had some people that are up in Wisconsin that are working like, right? So you say, who was in
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collaboration with this targeting? Again, maybe it's not illegal, but it's certainly worth a hard look.
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And when it comes to the attorneys general, you see a network now, look, the reports out of the last
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two weeks on Arctic Frost are that Jack Smith was coordinating on targeting people with local
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prosecutors. That's frankly, the place where you look first. You say, Hey, you may be out of
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control. You may have run for office. Like I think Letitia James did saying, I'm going to target that
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citizen, that citizen, that group. That's what she ran on. That's politics. Maybe it's illegal.
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Maybe it's not. When you get in office, how you use your office is what we're going to have to look
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at and say, Whoa, back off. By the way, one of the heroes in this, Harmy Dillon, Harmy Dillon is fearless.
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And so we were trying to get to the bottom of this and she's saying, how do I help? And she's out there in
00:21:49.420
the fray too. So, um, it's an, you know, all government effort to make sure that our people
00:21:55.060
are protected and all hands on deck. Yeah. What about, let's go to the anti weaponization part
00:22:01.180
of your job. Uh, and I realized most of this you can't talk about, but people sometimes think that
00:22:06.360
that's not getting the attention. You just had this book in justice out where they're trying to make
00:22:10.740
the case of Jack Smith as a superhero. And the only reason that he didn't actually bring a Trump,
00:22:16.520
get Trump in prison is that Merrick Garland guys are just too late to the process,
00:22:21.000
but you've got this now grand jury in South Florida. You have all this, uh, Arctic frost,
00:22:26.560
which is, uh, you know, finally the Senate realizes they were wiretapped. Now they're
00:22:30.480
interested in where do we stand with your anti weaponization move? Yeah. Let me, let me say
00:22:34.420
one part of that, Steve, is that all along the way, there's progress. That's hard sometimes to show
00:22:38.680
people. It's an inch at a time. For example, the news that broke on Arctic frost, we had that about
00:22:43.400
five weeks ago. And, and, and I know that the, the effort was by, uh, uh, the dag Todd Blanche was,
00:22:49.000
how do we get this information in the hands of people that can hold, hold them accountable?
00:22:53.040
We did that, right? There's Tina Peters. We've been fighting for two months to figure out a path
00:22:56.760
on Tina Peters. It's come out publicly. We're fighting for Tina Peters. You say, well, just go
00:23:00.860
get her. Well, we got to work with Colorado. You've put Colorado Bureau of Prisons. Yeah.
00:23:05.120
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You want to transfer to a federal prison. Yeah. And, and we did it,
00:23:08.380
but we did it. I got to say again, Todd Blanche is a guy leading on this. We did it in a way that puts the right
00:23:12.780
kind of pressure on them. You know how this works. If you're Colorado, I was chief of staff to the
00:23:16.380
governor of Missouri once. If the feds say we want something, you change your tune in terms of,
00:23:20.440
so we did that. We're doing that. So there's a million steps, but I would say on the big picture,
00:23:25.760
J six, look, you're seeing the J six stuff breaking. I can't talk about a lot of it,
00:23:30.520
but you're seeing that stuff break. And that's because it's a regular, it's, it's, it's like a drip,
00:23:34.820
drip, drip where we're making regular progress. Now don't get me wrong, Steve. We need more
00:23:38.820
prosecutions. We need more convictions. I get it. Uh, but I do know that we're making progress
00:23:43.820
and on the weaponization, uh, look, Joe, Joe Biden's administration, it was beyond what you
00:23:50.020
could even imagine what you can imagine. Honestly, you know, it was illegitimate. That's what proven
00:23:55.120
the 2020 election was stolen. It's illegitimate and it act like an illegitimate, uh, group of
00:23:59.840
gangsters, but they targeted so many Americans. You get the Catholics in Richmond area. That was,
00:24:04.700
that was nationwide. The school, the moms and dads at the, at the school board, right? They targeted
00:24:09.220
every different category and they did it with a level of, it was like Obama was doing that,
00:24:14.880
his people, these guys went beyond, uh, anything you could ever imagine. And it's all, by the way,
00:24:20.460
it's all the same suspects goes through both administrations. You know, the, the characters
00:24:23.700
are the same in terms of the, well, the normal license, some of these NGOs, Weissman, this crowd,
00:24:28.280
the MSNBC crowd. I know you got to bolt two things. Number one, your brother. Tell me about your
00:24:32.920
brother. He's a Marine. Tell me about your brother. Yeah. My brother's a United States
00:24:35.760
Marine, Lieutenant Colonel, retired, um, Marine, uh, Jim Martin, a career, a career. Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:40.120
Yeah. He did. He did tours in Afghanistan and, and Fallujah and all that stuff in Iraq. And,
00:24:45.060
uh, you know, took guys that always a dirt eater, ground pounder. He was a Scranton university
00:24:49.040
undergrad. Then went officer's candidate school. A great Catholic school. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he
00:24:53.100
just was a fighter and he went to all the wars and he came back and he's a, he's a hero and he saw
00:24:58.020
stuff that you and I only read about and, uh, and, and so many of those people and many of them didn't come
00:25:02.620
back. So it's a great to remember those guys, the Marines. And he's, he's a, he's a great hero.
00:25:07.180
Mine, my brother, Jim Martin, he's up in Massachusetts. That's tough to be in Massachusetts,
00:25:10.420
but it's, uh, it's all right. Phyllis Schlafly. Oh man. This is her moment. Isn't it? I mean,
00:25:15.280
because people have certain that she represents so much of that kind of pounding stick to it in us.
00:25:20.360
That's right. Never back off. Had the establishment on her the entire time. When we played the,
00:25:25.060
the article from Breitbart and we played it, but it's gone viral again about her just completely
00:25:30.500
destroying, uh, Buckley. Yeah. Look, Phyllis Schlafly, two things. She was right on most of
00:25:36.420
the issues early. She knew that the threat was anti-communism in the Soviets. It wasn't,
00:25:40.820
it wasn't necessarily Russia. Once the Soviet union fell, she went to China and said, it's a
00:25:44.720
communist in China. That's why Navarro, she was on Navarro 15 years before the rest of everybody
00:25:49.040
caught up. Right. So she, so Phyllis knew, but what you said and on all the issues, pro-life on,
00:25:54.760
on, uh, immigration, global agenda. She was the first one back in the sixties. She was calling
00:25:59.460
out the wall street guys, but what she was really great at was she just never wavered. You know,
00:26:04.620
Donald Trump came to her funeral. So you were there September of 2020, 2016. Yeah.
00:26:09.240
We took time off because symbolically it was so important for us to be there and to honor her.
00:26:12.960
And she did been, she showed such courage. And he spoke, he spoke for president Trump spoke before
00:26:18.040
the funeral mass cause he knew he didn't, wasn't going to interrupt it, try to be in the center of it.
00:26:22.460
And he spoke for five or 10 minutes and he said, she never wavered. That's the thing. She loved America
00:26:26.660
and she never wavered. And she just kept going one day after another. And, and, you know,
00:26:30.540
one of my staffers, what worked at Phyllis Schlafly Eagles said to me once came to my office
00:26:34.060
at Gwen, and she said, I know what the thing is with Trump and Phyllis. Phyllis had died already.
00:26:37.940
And she said, the two of them, they just love America so much. They want it for everybody.
00:26:42.140
And that's what she fought for. So it is kind of her moment.
00:26:45.200
It's one of the most important moments of the 16 campaign.
00:26:47.720
Oh, amazing. Well, it's funny to see you were there and, uh, and, um, a president,
00:26:52.640
and his wife and there was a casket and there's a great photo of, uh, praying, praying. Yeah.
00:26:58.680
Nelton prayed in front of the casket of Phyllis Schlafly. It was very powerful.
00:27:03.060
Thanks. Anytime in the neighborhood, just drop.
00:27:04.500
Yeah. Well, I'm checking on, I've got, I've checked the tags on your car. I'll check on that.
00:27:08.760
I've got the, uh, I think we've got to, we got to license this, uh, your, your, your, your London fall.
00:27:16.040
Leticia James, uh, Ed Martin, uh, social media, where do people get you?
00:27:19.680
Uh, at Eagle Ed Martin is my private, my personal. That's the best place to be in touch.
00:27:23.300
Ed Martin. Thank you. We're going to leave you with the Marine Corps hymn.
00:27:26.060
Uh, we're going to be back in the war in a moment.
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Eric Prince will be in the house a little later this morning.
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Ed Martin. Thank you so much. Be back in a moment.
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Thank you very much for having me and for giving me this opportunity to speak to some of the American
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people. What's different now is the assault on the ideal of equal justice under law. You just read
00:29:08.520
what I wrote that was published yesterday in the Atlantic, that the law is now evidently being used
00:29:18.060
repeatedly, regularly, for partisan purposes, to punish the president's perceived enemies and to
00:29:27.620
not investigate possible corruption or other criminal wrongdoing by his donors and his friends,
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others in his orbit. These things have happened in the past. I was a young lawyer, as you know,
00:29:44.300
from reading the article, assistant to the attorney general after Watergate and what President Nixon
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did periodically and secretly because he knew it was illegal or improper. President Trump appears to do
00:29:58.860
regularly. We have a series of things going on that are related, in my view, the directions to the
00:30:07.560
Department of Justice to prosecute perceived enemies, the abolition of the units in the FBI and the
00:30:18.000
Department of Justice that would ordinarily investigate public corruption or the evisceration of them in the
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Justice Department, and the failure to investigate possible corruption, particularly by people who benefit the
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president or the president or his interests. And this is utterly inconsistent with our ideal of equal justice under law.
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They have the best week that they've had in a year and a half. And then fear and loathing and the wringing of hands
00:30:49.840
because they may reopen the government because, yes, there are some Democrats who understand that people are going hungry.
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And what have they done? They have found out and they have exposed the White House that is working overtime
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to take food assistance from working Americans. And this is exposed just how much
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the Republican Party hates the idea of helping working Americans, helping middle class Americans
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who are struggling with health care. So you take that and you take the massive win that Democrats had
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this past week, massive, historic in some ways, where Steve Bannon said Democrats erased 10 years of
00:31:48.120
Republican gains in one night. And why did that happen? Donald Trump said it happened because of the
00:31:55.180
government shutdown. So all this fear and loathing and all this whining, I wish Democrats for once,
00:32:01.400
just once could take a win and then understand the Republicans, they were never going to help
00:32:08.300
working Americans. They learned that through this process. So you know who else learned that through this
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process, the American voter. Okay, they're going to be debating all this now they've reached, you know,
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the filibuster limit 60 votes. So they're now going to start discussing it. And I'm told,
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particularly people saying all the riffs are gone, none of the riffs, all the riffs, I'm told on the
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people negotiate the deal are good, all this reduction in force of the government, Russ votes,
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you know, team, all of those riffs up until this thing is agreed to, are all gone. So we'll see.
00:32:47.900
Right now, it's kind of, we're trying to find out exactly, some of this deal doesn't make any sense.
00:32:53.020
But anyway, we're going to pursue it throughout the day. Eric Prince, the only way you can follow
00:32:56.480
Ed Martin on a day like today is Eric Prince. Thank you for saving me because Ed Martin had to leave
00:33:01.120
and the audience is going to keep Ed. Steve, you leave and Ed Martin stays. So thank you so much for
00:33:06.440
being here. Ed is a great American. He's a great American. Talk about standing in the breach.
00:33:11.300
Talk to me about that for a second, because this is why Ed Martin has become such a folk
00:33:14.640
hero right now. I met him for the first time recently, and I just applaud the work he's doing.
00:33:23.300
And if we believe in a constitutional republic with actual accountability for malfeasance,
00:33:29.340
especially people that are going to weaponize government against citizens. Well, you know,
00:33:33.560
because government, they've been weaponized against you forever. In fact, the last 600
00:33:37.720
meters tonight, 10 o'clock, uh, and we showed it on the big screen a couple of weeks ago.
00:33:43.540
You were so nice to come for the, for the opening. It's an amazing film. It's just a fantastic
00:33:48.000
piece of work. Because it shows just more. And by the way, it is what Marines do every day
00:33:52.560
of their life in the, in Fallujah, Najaf in Fallujah is just the grunts, ground pounding, no glory
00:33:58.940
in it. It's just, you're doing it for the core, you're doing it for the country.
00:34:01.700
It's like one big scrum and they just pushed way harder. It's just amazing. In fact, I met
00:34:07.840
you when we were talking about this film. I came and saw it because the opening segment
00:34:12.340
of the film, which is the most brutal, it's, it, the film is essentially unrated and it's
00:34:18.160
because we have some brutal things of combat, but it starts with the attack on your, on your
00:34:23.680
ambush of our, your guys in Fallujah and, uh, strung from a bridge. And that's when it got
00:34:28.780
personal for people. Oh yeah. Um, talk to me about the governance target you. So that
00:34:34.880
was 17. That was eight. Actually we were making it. So the very beginning stages. So that was
00:34:40.340
almost 20 years ago. You were targeted then. I mean, uh, the Obama administration and Holder
00:34:47.120
literally targeted you at that time. Cause before Trump came on the scene or other people came
00:34:52.680
in the scene, you were kind of their number one target. Were you not? They threw every
00:34:57.300
aspect of the federal government at us. They tried to bankrupt you. Oh my God. They, they,
00:35:01.460
I was paying about two and a half million dollars a month for two, two years in legal fees,
00:35:06.780
two and a half million a month, a month. And your crime had been defending, serving the country,
00:35:12.780
the U S government, serving the state department to the letter of a competitive, of a competitively
00:35:18.060
bid thousand page contract. We did exactly what they wanted. And, um, I think the left hates
00:35:25.420
anything that shows it to be more efficient than what government is doing.
00:35:30.980
Also, also they hate patriots. If you, if this is a post constitutional, this is why a lot
00:35:36.300
of the constitutional conservatives come to me and go, Oh, you know, I say, this is a post
00:35:40.220
constitutional, uh, we're living in a post-constitutional age because of what the
00:35:44.740
Democrats have done. This is why it's so important today. And I'll get it out. Ed Martin kind of put
00:35:48.800
out the rationale for how they stole the 2020 election. Right. And this is why the president
00:35:53.880
gave these pardons, uh, the pardon at a federal level to these folks. Uh, I actually think it'd be
00:35:59.620
applied to the state, but we'll see the next couple of days they're targeting those people that they
00:36:04.640
think are making a difference, right? The nail that sticks up the highest is definitely getting the
00:36:08.380
hammer. That's for sure. And, um, you know, fall down two times, get up three.
00:36:13.800
I have you on today. We wanted you here because, uh, one, I want to talk about what you've been
00:36:18.360
working on the last couple of years on, on this communication side, but on the 250th, uh,
00:36:24.000
commemoration. And by the way, we're going to go to Philadelphia as soon as we're having a slight
00:36:27.700
technical problem is raining there. This is a group of, uh, Ernie Preate, uh, Alexander Preate's dad,
00:36:33.120
who is a Marine veteran, hardcore combat in Vietnam. And a bunch of, uh, Marines who served
00:36:39.100
in Vietnam in intense combat are having, are kicking off the commemoration today at the,
00:36:43.860
at the Vietnam moral memorial in Philadelphia. Of course, a ton tavern today throughout the
00:36:48.780
entire day. We're going to be here 10 PM tonight after 17 years. Uh, they're going to, we're going
00:36:55.900
to have the national broadcast of the last 600 meters, uh, which is a, I guess a story. You could say,
00:37:02.360
Terawa, Peleliu, uh, you know, the, the Marines throughout history, this is what they do,
00:37:08.020
right? It's that, it's that, it's a pound, it's just ground pounding and unrelenting and
00:37:11.960
never stopping. Yeah. They, they, they tend to make a mark wherever they show up. I mean,
00:37:16.300
when the U S entered world war one and they get to Belu Wood and that's where they earned
00:37:22.620
the name Teufelhunda, devil dogs, because they just talk about that fought. It's hard. It's
00:37:28.160
also the reason they're there. Some of the government don't like when you say that it's
00:37:31.760
Bella Wood is also the reason they were not in Normandy for the greatest amphibious landing
00:37:37.760
in history. They were so good at Bella Wood. The powers of being DC said, Hey, I don't,
00:37:42.500
we don't, we want the Marine state amphibious. We don't know if we want them that far inland.
00:37:45.960
That's supposed to be the army's job. Let's send them to the Pacific.
00:37:48.580
There is no question. Look, it's a competitive thing. SEAL team six is better because of Delta
00:37:54.360
force and vice versa. And I, and I saw it a lot in Iraq and Afghanistan that the competitive
00:38:00.760
nature and the Marines would find a way, the attitude of the Marine Corps that every Marine
00:38:05.380
is a rifleman, right? Because everybody likes to break into all these different MOSs, military
00:38:09.660
occupational specialties, a cook, a radar guy, whatever. Everybody in the Marine Corps knows
00:38:16.320
how to shoot, move and communicate first, super important. And they demonstrated that in the
00:38:22.240
ground combat in Iraq and Afghanistan again and again.
00:38:25.300
What, um, talk to me today, a little controversial. Uh, the Syrian president is going to arrive at the
00:38:35.040
White House. In fact, it's going to be around 11 o'clock. There's not going to be any ceremony.
00:38:39.620
I think it's closed to the press throughout the day. There's discussion, of course, of folks in the
00:38:45.200
audience that want to see us America first. And I want to ask you about Venezuela. Also want to see
00:38:49.960
America first and a little concerned about this. They're now talking about a base in Syria that we
00:38:55.160
may be staffing. Your thoughts on, uh, your thoughts on the, on the, on the Syrian president,
00:38:59.040
because he, on the 250th anniversary of the Marine Corps, maybe not the best day to have this guy
00:39:04.160
show up because a lot of, uh, Iraq and Afghanistan was because of this.
00:39:09.480
Well, yeah, certainly Assad was, uh, was, was supplying the rat line of foreign fighters that were
00:39:14.360
feeding into Iraq. Um, look, Jelani is a rebadged jihadi, uh, with a much better haircut and a
00:39:23.060
better, uh, and a better tailor. Um, I'm not going to... You've got Petraeus glazing him. I can play
00:39:28.980
that clip. No, no, come on, brother. You got, he's going to the, was the UN, the, the meetings
00:39:34.080
before the UN and David Petraeus, which, who led the 101st, right up there with the Kurds. Remember
00:39:41.580
they, the Turks blocked them and they had to actually do a parachute. They had to do an
00:39:45.840
airdrop in, uh, he's glazing this guy, right? We want to know, are you getting enough sleep?
00:39:51.140
Remember that? I mean, what is going on with the, the globalist establishment is embrace this guy
00:39:55.840
like nobody's business. Jelani is there because Turkey installed him. That, that was a black swan
00:40:02.920
event organized by Turkish intelligence and the Turkish special operations. They put their guy in
00:40:08.660
and it's definitely, uh, Turkey flexing its Ottoman origins to extend his reach.
00:40:14.620
You mean the same Turks that are doing the security in, uh, in, in Gaza, of which Netanyahu
00:40:19.360
already said over the weekend, a Turks will never set foot in Gaza to do security. I said
00:40:24.620
he ought to read the, he ought to read the document they signed. Um, Turkey is reversing
00:40:30.720
everything that General Allenby, the British Lawrence of Arabia did back in World War I, right?
00:40:36.380
We drove the Ottoman Empire. We drove, we drove it from the two sacred sites. The Sykes-Picot
00:40:41.020
agreement was, uh, to keep them out, kept them out. And cause the Ottoman Empire had really
00:40:46.200
collapsed. Uh, and then you had, but people don't remember, they controlled Mecca and Medina
00:40:51.460
for almost a thousand years, I think, right? Or 600 years. They, they controlled the two holy
00:40:56.760
sites for, and that's how they got the Ottoman Caliphate got its, got its, uh, source of
00:41:02.380
legitimacy from doing that. Driving those, driving the Turks out. And that's what the
00:41:09.080
But remember, they built upon the infrastructure built by the Christian Eastern Empire.
00:41:15.840
They subsumed the Byzantines, and they extended Islam from there.
00:41:20.060
All the administrative, I mean, the Byzantine Empire was a, a slightly bureaucratic, right?
00:41:26.560
Exactly. Exactly. But the fact is, it was the Eastern Roman Empire and it worked and
00:41:31.240
it was a functioning high grade society and, and, and Islamic invader took that over and
00:41:40.580
So now the Turks are back in, right? I, I'm anti the greater Israel project, right? So,
00:41:47.700
but I keep saying for everybody that fought for Israel to have a, just a one state solution,
00:41:52.140
you have a two state solution in Gaza, right? There's no doubt. The Qataris are funding it.
00:41:57.340
Two million Gazans are going to stay. And you've got the Turks organizing the UAE troops,
00:42:04.620
the Egyptian troops, and the Saudi troops in a security apparatus. So you have a two state
00:42:08.960
solution. Now with the situation in Syria, you're actually partnering with the Turks even more,
00:42:14.980
Yeah. I've, um, I've largely given up on that region. I'm, I'm focused on other spots.
00:42:21.940
How can you give up? I wanted to get to that. You, you were the ax in the space in that region.
00:42:26.580
You knew more about that region and the players than anybody.
00:42:29.360
Yes. And, uh, I guess, hang on, we're going to leave with the Marine Corps him.
00:42:33.680
Eric Prince is with us. Um, we're going to talk about some geo strategic issues. We're also
00:42:39.080
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The entire day today, we are commemorating one of the great institutions in our country,
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the United States Marine Corps. They at the Q&A after the screening, we had the premier of last
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600 meters a couple of weeks ago. One of the Marines, they had the, they had the heroes of the story
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there. And one of the Marines said, if you just let us do our job, we will never lose. If the
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politicians stay out of the way and they take us off the chain, there's nobody that can beat us. We
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will never lose. And I, and the audience, it was very powerful. We have to be reminded of that,
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right? Take us off the chain. That was my podcast. It's called Off Leash for a reason.
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We'll talk to you about your podcast. Siri, look, the president, they're trying to, he's trying to
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juggle a lot of things. We are adamantly opposed to the greater Israel project, right? We are,
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we are huge defenders of Israel, but this whole thing of the expansion into the Sinai.
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Not our problem. Not our issue. It's also going to destroy them because they don't really have
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the military wherewithal to do it. They don't have the troops. The IDF is beat up. The IDF did not
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want to go back into Gaza to do this. And they had a huge amount of friendly fire casualties.
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What do you mean by that? Uh, blue on blue, as in getting smacked by their own missiles,
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their own. You mean just miscommunications, targeting problems, issues? Yeah. Look,
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urban fighting with that much firepower is tough. Is very tough. And you see this in the movie tonight,
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Salusia, you got the Marines. Danger close. The best of the best. And then danger close is,
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you know, meters away. So yes, the United States does not need to put a base in Syria. If you want to
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have a commercial presence there, the Deir Azur oil fields in the East, which is kind of the main
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asset that Syria had, was producing 400,000 barrels a day, have that be operated by a Western
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company. Put an airfield there, make that a commercial base, but not a U.S. military base.
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That way, Syria can have U.S. presence, but it's commercial presence. It doesn't have to be
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uniformed active duty personnel. The president has been trying to pivot back to hemispheric defense.
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You and I have talked about this a lot. You're a huge proponent from the Arctic and Greenland,
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the box in the Russian Navy, all the way to the Panama Canal, and also reassert ourselves in a
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Monroe Doctrine 2.0 in Latin America, whether that is, and we still don't fully understand the bailout
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of Argentina, but that's part of a financial bailout. Somehow get the Bolsonaro's back,
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although you got to play footsie with Lula and the Marxists for a while, given their relationship
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with the Chinese Communist Party. You have to wean them off that. But Venezuela, a lot of our audience
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is just they're sitting there going, we don't get the Venezuelan part of this, particularly when you've got
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an amphibious ready group of 4,000, you know, sailors and fleet marines off of Venezuela, and people are
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talking about going in and doing strikes to take the logistics hubs, the airfields, the television
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stations. What is your idea about what is going on in Venezuela now and what should be going? Because you and I
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have talked about Venezuela, I don't know, for at least a decade, right? You've had very definitive
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thoughts on this for a while. This is my frustration with the CIA, that if you had the CIA that was
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offering practical, deliverable covert action programs to amp up and to actually deliver that
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kinetic pressure at the margin, that the president could get the outcomes that he's seeking, right?
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The fact is, a year ago July... In other words, you don't need to bring the big hammer of the fleet
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marines down if he had covert action. Look, if you think about the continuum of statecraft, you have
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10% that can be done by diplomats and embassies. The other 10% should be the deterrence of a massive
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snarling attack dog of the conventional US military waiting to be let off leash. And then the 80% in the
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middle is the intelligence world, where good covert action, selectively engaging a couple of targets
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just inside Venezuela, drives Maduro to a decision to say, if I stay here, high chance I'm going to get
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injured. Hasn't he gone to president? President Trump said the other day that Maduro has agreed to
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everything that President Trump has said except for the immediate leaving. And does he leave the
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country or does he go to Spain? He can go to Spain. It would be a huge infusion of capital for Spain's
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economy, good for Spain. But look, you have to... Maduro and the apparatchiks around him all have
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to go. It's not a matter of just him going. You have to get rid of Delcy Rodriguez and Jorge and...
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Correct. And I think that's the other impediment that the...
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Talk to us about some of those lieutenants. How bad are they?
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Teistado Cabello is the Minister of Interior and is a total gangster thug. And so those are the kind
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of people that the CIA should take out because the fact is they completely stole the election a year
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ago, July. And the Venezuelan narco and oil money funds all kinds of other leftist subversion and
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gangs and drug activity into the United States. That's our interest, making that stop. There is
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a legitimate election. Some people say that Marco is interested in this because you've got the
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Venezuelans in South Florida, who you know, and the Cubans, and they see the road, the path to Havana
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The, when Castro took over in 59, they attached themselves like a tick out of the Soviet Union
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and sucked those resources. Then when the Soviet Union collapses in 91, they were kind of
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adrift for a while. They attached themselves to Venezuela, sent thousands and thousands of
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doctors and security apparatus personnel to get cash from the oil revenue, to take cash
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from the oil revenue. And so Cuba's economy is subsidized heavily by Venezuelan crude.
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And they're also, they've got, they've got intelligence or paramilitary, full on fellow
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travelers, fellow travelers. Okay. So what do you do with that situation? Some people think we're
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being pushed into this because of the, you know, the, the, the, the, the whole situation
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Well, the fact is the, the, the Marxist paradise in Cuba is an absolute total shit show. Even
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before this last hurricane, they couldn't even keep the electricity on for 12 hours a day.
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I mean, there's actually starvation. There's no protein when you're in Miami and you get
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a Miami tax taxi driver, a Cuban that says, yes, my family, I have to send them sugar from
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Cuba or sorry, from Florida back to Cuba because they can't even buy it in Cuba anymore. That's
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when you're talking about covert action and paramilitary activity. Do you put a bounty
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That's I wish the president would do that because they've, they've say they've raised the bounties
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on these, but if you read the fine print, it says 5 million, 10 million, 50 million for
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information leading to the arrest of, if they went back to kind of the old school rooster
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cogburn, U S Marshall approach, 50 million dead or alive. I think you'd see some generals
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And, and you might see Maduro negotiating his exit sooner to get the hell out of there.
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Clarity of focus. Um, but right now 4,000 sailors and fleet Marines off the coast.
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I, I doubt, I hope that the president would not invade Venezuela with that force package.
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Look, the fact is a battalion of Marines could take out the entire Venezuelan armed forces of
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this. I have no doubt not to bet. Not that is not their best use. This is a role for the
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intelligence apparatus to apply very precise pressure on very, very bad people on the make
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them choose life and escaping with their ill gotten money.
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A leverageable moment as we call it. Okay. Stick around. Uh, we got a lot to talk about.
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