Roger Kimball, Rahim Kassam, and Laura Loomer join us briefly to talk about the current state of the stock market, the future of artificial intelligence, and the potential impact of the Trump administration on the economy.
00:03:01.000We have no earthy idea what's happening in these labs right now.
00:03:04.000Because you have more regulation on Capitol Hill to open a nail salon than any of the four frontier labs have at all on artificial intelligence.
00:03:47.000One of the biggest defenders of Israel, one of the biggest defenders of the Jewish people.
00:03:52.000But always in a context, you put in a context, one of the biggest context is about the Muslim Brotherhood and what they're trying to do around Israel with all these radical Turk, Muslim, and Arab nations.
00:04:04.000On Tuesday, I believe it was, you came out with a couple of tweets, but you talked about the sovereignty of Israel and to really have Israel not be a protectorate or, quote unquote, not be the greatest ally, but to be an independent or sovereign nation.
00:04:21.000It needed to stop this $4 billion a year or whatever the number is of American arms.
00:04:26.000And it needed really to make a statement that you're an independent nation and you're going to make your own independent decisions and, hey, you're always an ally of the United States, but you're an ally like any independent nation, any sovereign nation.
00:04:37.000On Thursday morning, Axios, who I think is pretty dialed in over there, has this article, Scoop, exclusive, that there is now a 20-year deal that is the 20-year memorandum of understanding that there would be the commitment of the $4 billion or $5 billion, whatever it is, of for 20 years that would have some tweaks of some America first language in it, but essentially would be doubling down on basically Israel's protectorate.
00:05:05.120And as I read that, I go, gosh, I think they took Laura Loomer pretty seriously because somebody senior in the Israeli government just put a shot across her bow and they did an Axios.
00:05:15.160Now, two minutes after Axios, the Times of Israel, every big paper had it.
00:05:52.500So just walk us through behind the scenes.
00:05:53.980What in the hell happened in Israel this week that you started this kind of movement to, you know, get your sovereignty?
00:06:01.800But there was obviously some senior folks somewhere that convinced Axios in the Times of Israel that, in fact, the exact opposite was happening.
00:06:10.300Well, obviously, we've seen a pivot, right, Steve?
00:06:15.940There's a lot of anti-Israel rhetoric on the left and also now on the right, where we're seeing, you know, extreme hostility towards not just the state of Israel, but also Jewish people.
00:06:27.760I called this Israel derangement syndrome, and I know you and I kind of got into a back and forth last time I was on your show.
00:06:34.400But my point was that, you know, we need to start focusing on the bigger picture.
00:06:42.120When you break down the number and you look at the actual numbers of aid, the value of aid, you have $3.8 billion per year.
00:06:49.720Sometimes it's 3.3, sometimes it's 3.8 that we give Israel.
00:06:53.480Now, there was a report, Steve, that came out the other day that showed that our return on that investment is about $48 billion a year, whether that's through weapons sales or technology or, you know, investments in pharmaceuticals, whatever it may be.
00:07:09.840We certainly get a lot more out of our relationship with Israel than we give to Israel every single year.
00:07:15.840However, it doesn't matter what the numbers are.
00:07:18.760There's no convincing a very large fraction of Gen Z and also a growing number of leftists and also conservatives that our relationship with Israel is beneficial.
00:07:30.280That's not going to change the fact that Israel is always going to be our ally, as you just pointed out.
00:07:35.740And so when I was in Israel, I met with military officials.
00:07:56.620I mean, if the United States is getting $48 billion a year out of this relationship with Israel and our investment into Israel, then it's our loss, really.
00:08:04.300It's our loss as the United States of America if America doesn't want to appreciate the return on investment with the aid that we're providing Israel every single year.
00:08:14.420I also told these officials when I met with them that I don't think that Israel does a good enough job highlighting the benefit of our relationship with Israel.
00:08:24.300Well, people say, oh, well, they're just trying to interfere in our elections with AIPAC.
00:08:28.340First of all, I'm not here to defend AIPAC.
00:08:30.040I think that AIPAC should actually have to register with Farah.
00:08:32.640However, when we cut off aid to Israel, that's the great thing.
00:08:35.940We're not going to need Farah anymore.
00:08:37.860We're not going to, excuse me, we're not going to need AIPAC anymore because the whole point of AIPAC is to convince politicians in Washington, D.C. to support Israel.
00:08:48.260So this whole debate about, you know, Israeli interference in our elections, poof, it's gone.
00:08:54.940And so we're able to do two things simultaneously.
00:08:57.320We're able to help Israel truly become a sovereign nation.
00:09:02.400We're going to take these golden handcuffs, as I like to call them, off of the Israelis because America first means not dictating what other countries do.
00:09:10.660If you're truly a sovereign nation, and I know that you'll agree with me on this, Steve, America first means not telling other countries what to do.
00:09:17.880And you make that argument during, you know, the two-year war between Israel and Hamas, and people say, well, we're paying for those, you know, those weapons that are being used to bomb people in Gaza.
00:09:27.920So we have every right to tell Israel what to do as it relates to not bombing Iran or not leveling Gaza.
00:09:33.460Well, if we're not giving Israel $3.8 billion a year, who are we?
00:09:38.080Who are we, Steve, to tell Israel what they can and can't do?
00:09:40.420So when it comes to taking out the Ayatollah, when it comes to going into Gaza, if they violate the ceasefire, Americans are no longer going to be able to complain about Israel perhaps assassinating the Ayatollah or flattening Gaza, right?
00:09:57.960As ominous as it may sound to the critics of Israel, that's what it means if we're truly going to be America first and we're not going to be giving Israel the $3.8 billion a year and benefiting from the $48 billion in return.
00:10:12.160And so I was pleased to see Netanyahu parent my argument.
00:10:17.040Before we get to the punchline, I want to make sure we go back because there's a lot of criticism here of Trump and saying, hey, how weak is Trump's understanding of geopolitics or national security?
00:10:30.040He's got Laura Loomer coming in and telling about the national security guys are not really America first.
00:10:52.800Well, look, I think that a lot of the lies that are pushed out against me, they're malicious.
00:10:58.020I think a lot of them are are spewed against me because I am Jewish and because I'm a woman.
00:11:03.600I mean, I'm not trying to parrot feminist talking points right now, but there is this animosity towards outsiders.
00:11:11.340I mean, people have animosity towards you, Steve.
00:11:13.880And because I'm not an elected official and because I'm not an official advisor, people think that I shouldn't have a seat at the table or I shouldn't be able to share my opinion.
00:11:22.600But, you know, I have nearly two point million, nearly two million followers on X.
00:11:27.360I know that I've been doing this work for a very long time.
00:11:30.460I have earned the trust of the MAGA base.
00:11:33.280And obviously, the president takes into account what I have to say.
00:11:36.560Oftentimes, the president will call me, ask me for my opinion, ask me for my advice.
00:11:41.000He's admitted this publicly when asked by reporters.
00:11:44.000And so why wouldn't why wouldn't politicians in Israel and high level officials in Israel want to take meetings with me?
00:12:00.000We're thirty eight trillion dollars in debt.
00:12:01.560We need to have a conversation about cutting off aid, not just to Israel, but to all countries.
00:12:05.220We don't need to be the sugar daddy of every single country in the world when we really need to be advocating for countries to be truly sovereign.
00:12:25.420I mean, there's all these ridiculous talking points about how Americans are dying for Israel when we don't have troops on the ground in Israel.
00:12:31.900If anything, Israelis are dying for Americans.
00:12:34.820You know, one of the things that I did, Steve, when I was in Israel is I met a lot of IDF soldiers and they're on the front lines doing the counterterrorism intelligence work that we are benefiting from with our shared intel agreement with the Israeli government.
00:13:18.160Real quick, I'm going to hold you through the break, Laura.
00:13:20.160But as you're going into Israel and meeting with senior level people and you're talking about, hey, look, guys, we want to be a sovereign nation.
00:13:28.760The United States is going to America first going to do what they're going to do.
00:13:31.280We've got to be Israel first and do what we're going to do.
00:13:33.780Give me a minute on this for a good break.
00:13:44.540But this is in the best interest of America and also Israel.
00:13:47.760We're $38 trillion in debt and the Israelis understand this.
00:13:51.320They understand that there's an optics issue right now.
00:13:53.840I don't think that this is an issue that's been created by the Israeli government, but it's just a reality.
00:13:58.600I don't think that we're going to be able, it doesn't matter how much money the Israeli government throws at this,
00:14:03.060I don't think that we're going to be able to convince a large portion of the American, you know, voting population that our relationship with Israel is beneficial.
00:17:07.980She referred to Laura Loomer as hateful, repugnant, and racist.
00:17:13.400Laura Loomer, while you're in Israel, understanding you're a huge influencer, you've got the president's ear, you have a very set convictions about America first, also about the MAGA movement, policies like H-1B visas, et cetera.
00:17:30.760But why would they take your discussion with them about their sovereignty and take it seriously and actually look like they're going to move to do something to the point of people that countered that took a long time to brief Axios and brief the times of Israel to counter what you were saying, right?
00:17:53.580And to do it in really a huge kind of a middle finger way, hey, baby, how about this, a 20-year, not only are we not going to stop taking American aid because we want to stop being part, you know, we're going to make our own decisions and not have America part of that, but we're going to do a 20-year deal and maybe even do a bigger deal, ma'am.
00:18:13.220Well, look, I think that there's no discounting the fact that there's a huge business and money-making opportunity right now for people pushing anti-Israel rhetoric.
00:18:25.000As I said before, it's kind of like Trump derangement syndrome.
00:18:28.840This concept of Israel derangement syndrome has people foaming at the mouth, Steve, over their anti-Israel sentiment.
00:18:48.340You're saying—you're saying Axios—no, but that story was clearly given to them.
00:18:52.720Axios would have never printed anything.
00:18:54.220Right, but that's—I'm trying to answer your question and explain why I think they're doing this.
00:18:57.720I think that they knew that all of the Israel haters were going to jump on that article, which is exactly what they did.
00:19:03.500I mean, everybody who hates Israel posted that article, and they were like, see, you know, the United States government is completely controlled by Israel.
00:19:12.100They tried to say that this was tied to the new Epstein emails.
00:19:14.960There were all these conspiracies that came out, and meanwhile, it was a completely fabricated story.
00:19:20.240I mean, Barack Ravid completely made up the story, and I know for a fact because they want to cut off aid.
00:19:26.300Laura, Laura, Laura, you're telling me the Times of Israel—I think it was the Jerusalem Post.
00:19:30.720You're telling me the most reputable publications in Israel, all three with Axios, and a guy, quite frankly, has been pretty accurate.
00:19:37.660They made it up by the whole—this was given to them by senior people in Israel.
00:19:40.160How do we know that they went to them?
00:19:42.440I don't trust anything that Axios says.
00:19:44.160They can say that people went to them all they want.
00:19:45.920It doesn't necessarily mean that they actually went to them.
00:19:47.980Are you making the case that Mike Allen and Jim Vanderhay and what they've done with—what's his name, Rabat, the guy that covers Israel, that they literally made up a story of whole cloth just because they saw your tweets and what you were talking about, Israeli sovereignty.
00:20:04.740I don't know why it was made up, but I do know from my conversations with individuals at the White House press shop that Barack is constantly making up lies, and he's a huge headache for the White House, and he's constantly pushing out fake news.
00:20:19.140I mean, why would they come out with this report, and then 20 minutes later you have Prime Minister Netanyahu doing an interview with Aaron Milan?
00:20:25.720It just doesn't make much sense to me.
00:20:30.620I think if people inside the Israeli government say, hey, we don't want this woman who's very powerful to start setting a narrative that we're breaking off, a lot of the people over there don't want to break off at all.
00:20:40.580Your idea of sovereignty, they would say, would be close to suicide for the country.
00:20:47.380I met a lot of people in Israel that actually do.
00:20:49.660I met a lot of people in Israel, including officials, who have told me that this has been a discussion amongst the people of Israel for quite some time.
00:20:59.380It's actually a big national debate in Israel about whether or not Israel would be better off because there's a lot of people that don't want to be handcuffed by the United States military telling them, you can't bomb the Ayatollah.
00:22:03.080I mean, that's what he said when he did this interview.
00:22:04.960And so that would mean, logically speaking, that the story was made up.
00:22:10.840No, I think what happened, look, maybe it didn't happen.
00:22:12.780I think what happened, there are people in the government that want to counter what you're saying, which is about – because it's a big step.
00:22:18.080It's a big psychological step of what you're saying.
00:22:20.060But people clearly believe that's smart.
00:22:22.720And I think Netanyahu looked out there and said, hey, I think we're programmed.
00:24:04.720Well, look, hopefully this is actually going to be able to be implemented.
00:24:08.780It's going to obviously take, you know, some time to implement this policy.
00:24:14.980I don't think it's going to happen overnight.
00:24:16.420But hopefully there can be this discussion so that by the end, at least, of the end of the Trump administration over these next three years, we can see an end of aid to Israel.
00:24:27.140I don't think it's going to be immediate.
00:24:29.000I think that you would probably agree with me.
00:24:30.600It's going to take some time to figure out how this is going to work exactly.
00:24:34.800But ultimately, I think that the United States of America will be better off and Israel will be better off.
00:24:40.480And I don't think that we're going to be necessarily financially better off because we're going to be forfeiting the $48 billion that we get on this return for our investment in Israel.
00:24:50.200But clearly, the issue of giving aid to Israel has been the center of a lot of political tension and conflict in our own country.
00:25:02.020And so hopefully this can take the temperature down.
00:25:05.400We'll see a decrease in conspiracy theories.
00:25:08.240We'll see a decrease in anti-Semitism in our country.
00:25:11.400We'll hopefully see a decrease in anti-Semitism around the world.
00:25:15.280And hopefully all of these people who hate Israel and these America-only isolationist types who truly say that they are America first or America only, as Marjorie Trader Greene likes to call herself,
00:25:28.300maybe they will be consistent and they will also say, all right, let's cut off aid to all countries.
00:25:34.220Because if we're going to end all aid to Israel, then logically speaking, we should just end all aid to every other country, Steve.
00:25:41.180It can't just be, you know, ganging up on Israel for the sake of ganging up on Israel.
00:25:48.180But let's also end all of the aid to every other country as well.
00:25:52.940I think that's the America first perspective.
00:25:55.720Would you be open to set aside your time as an investigative reporter, influencer, if the president asks you to be the American ambassador to Israel during this transition period, ma'am?
00:26:11.340I mean, look, if the president asked me to serve, I'd be happy to serve.
00:26:14.920I think that I would be better suited helping the president handle issues of domestic policy.
00:26:20.160I mean, if I was working in the White House right now, I don't think that we would see the president talking about the need to increase H-1B visas or to give 600,000 visas to Chinese students who we all know are just going to be Chinese spies.
00:26:33.220And we certainly wouldn't be seeing ISIS terrorists in the White House because I would be pushing back heavily.
00:26:38.100I think that with my talents and being as plugged in with the base as I am, that I would be better suited working in the White House, assisting and advising the president on domestic policy.
00:26:50.480But, hey, if the president asked me to assist, I'd be happy to assist.
00:26:54.320Although I think that Ambassador Huckabee is doing a great job as it is.
00:27:38.340Any of these journalists that come out to attack Laura Loomer or influence, just look at the week in Israel.
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00:29:53.600Joel Gilbert, we're really pressed for time.
00:29:55.820I got you out here on another great piece.
00:29:58.300When Joel Gilbert gets on a topic, he's like a dog with a bone.
00:30:00.960He's on Eric Swalwell, but he's been on this for a while.
00:30:04.060Give me a minute on Laura Loomer going to Israel and saying, hey, look, guys, let's be a sovereign nation.
00:30:10.320Let's just cut the aid, do it ourselves, and then, you know, as an ally, we can talk to America and keep them informed.
00:30:15.820But if they're not paying for things and we're not dragging them into things, we can do what we want, including take down Tehran if we so want.
00:30:24.420I think maybe she was effective because it's not really a new argument.
00:30:27.820In Israel for 40 or 50 years, especially on the right, they've been arguing that every time Israel gets in a war or makes a peace deal, it's the United States pressuring Israel by offering more aid or saying they're going to withdraw aid if Israel doesn't agree.
00:30:45.400So even the war in Gaza was caused by Israel's withdrawal from Gaza in 2006 or 2007, in which the United States promised more aid.
00:30:54.620The Egyptian peace treaty was based on the United States promising massive aid, and that hasn't worked out at all.
00:31:01.080Egypt is still a hostile country to Israel.
00:31:03.080They helped Hamas get armed, withdrawing from southern Lebanon.
00:31:07.420Israel withdrew without any security arrangements whatsoever.
00:31:12.480Again, in Israel, they felt that the United States was unduly influencing Israel because of promises for extra aid or promises or threats to withdraw aid.
00:31:22.440So it's not a new argument, and a lot of Israelis think they'll be better off without the U.S. financial aid in place.
00:31:31.040We'll have a discussion later, Gilbert, because you know this pretty well.
00:31:35.600But that's also a difference of understanding of the Jewish donors to the Republican Party and actually people that live in Israel and have to deal with the reality.
00:32:29.880Well, don't forget, Dan Feinstein was also penetrated by the Chinese intelligence for many years, and not much really happened.
00:32:37.540Look, Swalwell, we took a look at his mortgage.
00:32:40.260He declared – he bought and purchased a home in Washington, D.C. that he declared as his principal residence while not having any verifiable address in California.
00:32:49.460According to the U.S. Constitution, you have to be an inhabitant of the state that you represent.
00:32:54.340California law, code 349, you actually have to have a physical address and live there.
00:33:16.840And that might be why he can't maintain a home in California like he's supposed to.
00:33:20.960And in today's article, I wrote about how his 2010 divorce, him and his wife were exchanging and bickering over can openers and salad tossers and, you know, plates, clearly because he didn't have any money.
00:33:37.040So even though he's made $174,000 a year in Congress, he's never paid off any debt.
00:33:43.160So that makes the whole Chinese spying, Fang Fang thing, of more concern.
00:33:49.060Where is this guy's money going and why can't he pay off debts and why can't he maintain a home in California?
00:33:54.700Just give it just give the audience a minute on the Fang Fang situation.
00:33:59.800Why is that something that China hawks and people that are anti-CCP like, you know, Natalie Winters, War Room, Bannon, others continue to harp on?
00:34:09.460Why do people harp on the Fang Fang situation?
00:34:14.120Well, there's a long-term influence operation by different countries, sometimes Russia and certainly China, to penetrate U.S. political parties and influence them by placing influencers inside people that they think have potential to become president one day.
00:34:31.340Look, Tim Walsh in Minnesota used to go to China every year for many, many years.
00:34:37.300He was under great influence from the Chinese.
00:34:39.240Fang Fang, the FBI, apparently felt she was some kind of part of a spying operation, and they had to tell Eric Swalwell to get rid of her, which he did.
00:34:49.260But then Swalwell was kicked off the Intelligence Committee because of the risk that he posed.
00:34:56.940The FBI is constantly following around.
00:34:59.500You know, how can they follow around 600,000 Chinese students?
00:35:02.380But there's definitely an effort to penetrate the American political system and influence our politics from Joe Biden to Tim Walsh to Eric Swalwell.
00:35:12.540Just so – no, before we let you go – authorities came to him and notified him that this was a problem, and this is the reason that he basically broke off the relationship or at least toned it down?
00:35:30.200Even the Dianne Feinstein, her driver for 20 years apparently worked for the Chinese Communist Party, and that was the last we heard about it.
00:35:38.700So we don't get enough information about this stuff, and Eric Swalwell and Tim Walsh are still serving, and they won't answer any questions.
00:35:46.540So it's definitely frustrating not to be able to really find out what happened in these situations and why there's never any prosecutions.
00:35:55.580If you want to see the amazing story of his divorce in 2010 where they're arguing over the kitchen utensils that leads to, I think, some of the current problems he's got, it's Joel Gilbert, and it's up on the great Jim Hoffs, Gateway Pundit today.
00:41:14.900And then to see some of these healthy people who have come through that I got to meet and talk with, to see them, like, rolling up in wheelchairs and, you know, in canes having been paralyzed and all this stuff just from, you know, doing what they thought was their duty or what they were coerced to do in many, many instances.
00:41:38.460And that's take a shot, especially when they're young, you know, they're military in their early 20s, even teenagers who are just decimated by these things.
00:41:49.860And the corruption and deceit that's going on in these big organizations is something that really needs to be tackled.
00:41:58.180And I couldn't be happier that Bobby Kennedy's in there fighting that good fight.
00:42:03.660Now, we're going to have – we'll make a big launch on this on Monday.
00:42:07.080If you guys are ready, we're ready to launch.
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00:45:13.620Well, Steve, talking about AI, unfortunately, AI is now being used by all the usual suspects, the Chinese, the North Koreans, and the Iranians,
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00:45:48.700We're just out there right now still, Steve, in Jamaica.
00:45:51.580The devastation out there caused by Hurricane Melissa took out 80% of the power grid, and when the power grid goes down, everything else goes down.
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00:46:08.540And there's, unfortunately, many, many of those.
00:46:10.660But, look, as you said, these are dangerous times and more turbulent times ahead of our infrastructure, our power grid, our communications networks.
00:46:19.360By the way, the Chinese Communist Party, the PLA, just hacked Anthropic, one of the four frontier labs.
00:46:26.140They had a cyber attack Thursday night, or excuse me, Thursday afternoon.
00:46:31.200We were going to report it last night.
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