Bannon's War Room - Episode 4928： Georgia Appoints A New Attorney Against Trump; Wagging The Dog With Venezuela

00:00:00.000 Back with this breaking news, President Trump's 2020 election interference case in Georgia

00:00:04.900 is now in the hands of a new prosecutor after Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis

00:00:10.760 was disqualified in the case. Let's get more from our senior legal reporter, Lisa Rubin. Lisa,

00:00:15.980 how significant is this? Well, today was the deadline for Peter Skandakalas, who is the chair

00:00:21.600 of this prosecuting counsel in Georgia, to find someone to potentially replace Fannie Willis after 0.60

00:00:27.080 the Supreme Court of Georgia decided she needed to be removed from the case because of the appearance 1.00

00:00:32.280 of impropriety. And you see, as per our reporting this morning, that Peter Skandakalas appointed Peter

00:00:37.620 Skandakalas. I think it's significant in the sense that there is or could be some forward motion,

00:00:43.960 but that doesn't necessarily mean that there will be. Among the options for Peter Skandakalas, of course,

00:00:49.520 is not only reviving the case, but choosing not to revive the case. And as you and I both know,

00:00:54.560 earlier this week, President Trump pardoned dozens of people who were allegedly involved in the fake

00:01:01.580 elector scheme, many of them defendants and ongoing defendants in this Georgia case, if it were to be

00:01:08.020 revived. So look to see what he's going to do in the next couple of weeks. If he does want to prosecute

00:01:14.320 the case, then I think that he will notify Judge Scott McAfee, I'd like to have a conference. Let's get

00:01:19.900 this train moving again. But if he doesn't, he may also make some sort of official announcement

00:01:24.960 as to why he is wrapping the case up. Either way, I expect in the next several weeks, we'll hear from

00:01:31.320 Mr. Skandakalas about what his plans are, Ana. How far along was the case? The case was reasonably far

00:01:36.900 along. Discovery had concluded. There were many pretrial motions that were decided. In fact,

00:01:41.920 one of those pretrial motions dealt with some of the charges around the RICO charge. The main charge

00:01:47.740 here was a state racketeering conspiracy. But there were other charges that had to do with Georgia

00:01:52.960 election law and sort of more straightforward, interfering with the process of certifying

00:01:57.480 electors, for example. Two defendants in particular got some of those charges dismissed. John Eastman,

00:02:02.880 the Trump attorney, and Sean Still, a Georgian. They succeeded in getting those dismissed, saying this

00:02:07.580 is an inherently federal proceeding. The state of Georgia had no business bringing state election

00:02:13.240 charges against us for the process of certifying electors. Perhaps we could see that argument sort

00:02:20.320 of being revivified if Mr. Skandakalas goes forward, because that is the basis on which the administration

00:02:26.640 has justified its pardons of folks all across these fake-door elector schemes from Georgia to Michigan

00:02:33.280 to Wisconsin to Nevada. But let's say it stays a state case. The president couldn't do anything about it,

00:02:39.860 could he? If it stays a state case, the president cannot do anything about it other than to advance

00:02:46.040 the arguments that he has on the basis for which he made these pardons. You and I both know that

00:02:50.380 constitutionally, the president has no power to pardon anyone for a state crime. But again, his position

00:02:55.940 here is that these pardons are justifiable because these aren't, in fact, state crimes. They are federal

00:03:02.760 crimes for which these folks were never charged, and the state had no right to bring them. So look to see

00:03:07.680 whether or not any of these folks in the Georgia case or in any of the other cases, as they move

00:03:12.740 forward, feel like they need to go back to that and say, hey, wait a second, I have a new argument

00:03:17.300 that I need to make that pertains to my defect.

00:03:22.020 This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on

00:03:30.400 these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people

00:03:36.840 have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do

00:03:40.520 everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:03:43.780 And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish

00:03:50.760 that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:03:57.700 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:04:03.880 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.

00:04:11.580 Friday, 14 November, Year of War, 2025. Okay, I've got Jack Posobiec, I have Matt Gaetz,

00:04:16.560 I got Alex Brusiewicz. Since all those are a little bit on the wimpy side, just kidding. I

00:04:23.680 got the hammer here, Christina Bob, to start off. So we got a packed show today. You're going to be

00:04:27.940 my wingman, but I've got you in here for a special reason. This first guy, MAGA, I mean,

00:04:34.100 we're trying to get H.1Bs and President Trump's focus on the economy again, but I think people

00:04:39.160 are kind of missing the Democratic plot here. Help me, this happened during our morning show

00:04:44.400 on MSNBC, is the—and tell me what's going on in Georgia, because I guess you've got a

00:04:50.960 pardon in Arizona, but it's not really a pardon. I want people to understand that, but

00:04:54.280 maybe we replay this. They are talking about prosecuting the President of the United States

00:05:01.400 on what they think is a live state charge by Fannie Wilson people, correct?

00:05:05.800 Yes, and that's what I had to verify with you while we were watching the clip, because it's

00:05:09.760 so kind of mind-boggling. Donald Trump is still listed as a defendant. They're still

00:05:14.320 indicating that they're proceeding forward. It's unclear to me at this point if they actually

00:05:19.460 plan on prosecuting this case. The— Oh, they plan on prosecuting it, don't they?

00:05:24.560 Who can shut them down? It's a state case. Only the state attorney general? I don't even know if

00:05:28.540 they overrule it. Well, yeah, Carr, that's another one. I mean, Carr is a nightmare for the state of

00:05:33.780 Georgia. But Peter Skandalakis is the executive director, I think, of the prosecutor counsel for

00:05:40.560 the state of Georgia. He's the one that took this over. That indicates to me that there was no other

00:05:44.760 sitting prosecutor who wanted to actually take this case. He took it on, apparently, because there was

00:05:50.160 no district attorney or AG or anybody else that wanted to inherit this turd of a case. So he took it.

00:05:56.520 There's a status conference here in December 1st. The pleading that came out today, or the order that

00:06:00.460 came out today, looked like the case could be proceeding forward. He's not really a sitting

00:06:07.000 prosecutor. So there is a possibility that he put himself on the list to be able to file a motion

00:06:14.100 to dismiss the case. So that's what I'm hoping happens. That's what should happen. I don't know

00:06:17.940 where he will prosecute this out of. I mean, he'll have to kind of jerry-rig and create a team to do

00:06:24.040 this. Oh, they would do that in a second? They could. Before the midterm to get Trump in a trial

00:06:29.660 next summer? Look, it's not going to happen. But my point is, these are the type of fantasies they

00:06:34.400 keep driving. Right. And it was so unbelievable that as the clip was playing, I had to verify

00:06:39.060 with you, like, am I hearing what I'm hearing? Because this is so bizarre that they would try

00:06:44.160 to do this. But yeah, there are other arguments to be made, though. And the order that came out said,

00:06:50.420 you've got to raise your motions now. Otherwise, I'm going to assume you don't have any—like,

00:06:54.160 I'm going to assume that we've heard everything that's going to be heard.

00:06:56.920 There likely will be other motions raised. Certainly—

00:07:00.780 The status conference in December, could it be dismissed then? Or is that when he sets up

00:07:04.700 the process to dismiss it? Either way. It could be either way. And I—like I said,

00:07:09.380 I don't really know what this prosecutor's going to do. I was—I was surprised that it happened this

00:07:15.740 way. I thought it would be dismissed by paper rather than having a hearing. So, it—

00:07:20.420 They may—they may actually be trying to move forward on this.

00:07:23.020 No, if they have any possibility of keeping this thing in the public eye, they remember,

00:07:27.860 he tried to illegitimately steal the 2020 election, which we know is opposite.

00:07:33.360 Yeah.

00:07:33.520 Two things I want to get to, because of the Tina Peters, but particularly when I talk to people,

00:07:39.220 explain to me the president's trying to be helpful here. Yeah.

00:07:41.840 Todd Blanch and the team, Ed Martin, the Pardons team, particularly with these electors.

00:07:46.660 But everybody's, like, kind of leaning on the shovel now, because they said, hey,

00:07:50.020 all the electors got pardoned. Right.

00:07:51.800 That has no bearing on this state case, correct? Yeah.

00:07:54.720 I mean, in Arizona, and I guess in—is it Michigan or what's it? They're going to go down—in

00:07:59.780 Jordan, they're going to go even harder here, are they not? Or try to?

00:08:02.240 Well, I mean, broad brush, I would say, it doesn't really have any bearing on a state case. You don't—the

00:08:08.560 president doesn't pardon state cases. That usually comes from the governor. That's kind of the

00:08:11.900 traditional talking point on this. However, the argument to be made with the Pardons, particularly

00:08:16.760 in this Georgia case, it's a little bit different. I mean, Michigan's already dismissed, so it doesn't

00:08:21.420 really matter. So it's Wisconsin and— Wisconsin, Nevada. Arizona's still open, but our indictment has

00:08:26.460 been thrown out, so, you know, it's on—it's in the process. Are you still burning up legal fees?

00:08:31.360 Oh, yeah. I mean, as long as the case is open. Administratively, it's open, but there's no

00:08:34.720 valid charging document. Is it Judge Troopas, Troopas out of Wisconsin? He's going to be in

00:08:39.280 studio. Yeah. Oh, Troopas is fantastic. He's one of the defendants. Troopas is coming to town. He's

00:08:44.000 going to be in studio Tuesday, Wednesday. I want to get all the stories about these people because

00:08:48.300 they've been tortured for a couple of years and spent an enormous amount of money.

00:08:51.040 A hundred percent. And Troopas, actually, in Wisconsin, prior to coming up with the alternate

00:08:55.880 electors' plan, he actually went to the attorney general, and they had a meeting, a hearing,

00:09:04.860 whatever, and he said, hey, we believe that we need to preserve the electors' votes. He went and

00:09:10.740 told them, hey, this is what we're going to do, said this to the attorney general, let us know if

00:09:15.520 you have any problems with it, because we believe that these steps need to be taken in order to

00:09:19.840 preserve Donald Trump's ability to cast these votes later. And the attorney general approved it.

00:09:24.440 He said, you know, there was a memo somewhere floating around that he, that's okay, there's

00:09:30.260 nothing illegal about this, go ahead and do it. And it was because the attorney general approved it,

00:09:33.920 that Troopas said, okay, this is what we're going to go forward and do. And then, lo and behold,

00:09:38.640 they turn around and indict Troopas and Mike Roman and Ken Chesborough, not even the electors. I mean,

00:09:45.820 the Wisconsin case reeks to high heaven. But back to the pardon issue, the way the pardons could

00:09:51.860 actually impact the state cases, if you want to, you know, go down that road, is kind of what they

00:09:56.860 were talking about in the clip, that these are not actually state charges. These should be federal

00:10:04.100 charges. It's a federal election. Federal law supersedes state law on this issue. And so the

00:10:09.580 pardon, the bigger issue of what's actually being charged really is a federal, even though they're

00:10:15.100 state charges, it is a federal offense. And so that pardon would, should apply to this case,

00:10:22.940 to this, these state charges. It's an argument to be made. I don't know, you know, I don't know how,

00:10:27.740 who or how anybody was going to raise it, but normally, normally a federal pardon, a presidential

00:10:33.780 pardon wouldn't impact a state case, but there actually is an argument to be made here.

00:10:38.120 And why is that?

00:10:39.380 Because it's a federal election and the heart of what they're doing is a federal election.

00:10:42.340 But then they would be admitting that they charge you illegitimately because it's, I mean,

00:10:46.820 the people in Arizona are not going to agree with that. The state, the AG out there is out of

00:10:53.260 control.

00:10:53.660 No, the AG, the AGs and Fannie Willis is, they will all oppose it, but the judge could agree

00:10:58.320 with you.

00:10:58.660 Yes.

00:10:59.060 So they, it's an, it's a motion that they might bring.

00:11:02.200 Tina Peters.

00:11:03.040 Yes.

00:11:03.240 Why is she still in a, why is she in a state prison? 1.00

00:11:06.000 Because the state of Colorado is corrupt.

00:11:07.340 I know, but aren't they saying now that the machines are, there are problems with the

00:11:11.440 machines?

00:11:12.300 You've got, you've got the congressman from, from Texas saying that now that some guys

00:11:19.600 bought them that used to be a Republican state election official, that Dominion machines

00:11:23.960 can't be used anymore.

00:11:24.560 Oh yeah, the Liberty vote.

00:11:25.240 Yeah.

00:11:25.860 So it's Crockett, Crockett's out there saying you can't use it.

00:11:29.180 Isn't it time, and I hear that the, that main justice has told the BOP, make arrangements

00:11:36.060 with Colorado authorities to transfer her to a federal facility, probably to be a witness

00:11:41.140 potentially in a federal case, but Colorado's refusing.

00:11:44.600 I hear today that, I think EPA or somebody's sending money to Colorado, should we not just

00:11:49.180 cut off, should we talk to the president, have him cut off all money to Colorado until

00:11:52.300 she's released?

00:11:53.040 Is she a political prisoner? 0.62

00:11:54.420 A hundred percent she's a political prisoner. 1.00

00:11:56.140 They're holding her hostage.

00:11:57.020 I mean, she's a gold star mom.

00:11:59.060 She's in her seventies.

00:12:00.620 She was an elected official.

00:12:02.560 This was an absolute sham trial.

00:12:04.700 They, I mean, they manufactured these convictions in order to score political points for, for

00:12:11.760 their base in Colorado.

00:12:13.560 And a lot of the information that's coming out, she was right.

00:12:16.620 Like you mentioned, a lot of the, her concerns about the machines have been proven to be valid.

00:12:20.920 Her concerns about-

00:12:21.880 And Democrats are saying now, Jasmine Crockett's one of the highest visibility.

00:12:25.580 She's thinking of running for the Senate. 0.98

00:12:27.020 And she's saying, hey, Texas can't use any of these machines.

00:12:30.680 I'm not sure they use them any, but she says the machines are going to be banned nationwide.

00:12:33.740 You got Jasmine Crockett, the most radical, saying that.

00:12:36.340 How's Tina Peters not sprung from jail? 1.00

00:12:38.420 Yeah.

00:12:38.780 No, I mean, Colorado should be-

00:12:42.480 How bad?

00:12:42.980 It can't, is it as bad as Arizona?

00:12:44.960 I think, I actually think Colorado's worse.

00:12:47.780 I mean, Tina Peters is in prison unfairly. 1.00

00:12:50.280 You know, thankfully in Arizona, we don't have that at the moment.

00:12:52.400 Although Chris Mays is working very hard to try to do that, not just to us.

00:12:56.360 She was throwing all you, she was throwing, it was you and Boris, they had some high-value targets.

00:13:00.620 Yeah.

00:13:01.120 And the electors, too.

00:13:02.540 And Tyler Boyer from USA.

00:13:04.420 Tyler Boyer, the head of ballot chasing for Charlie Kirk.

00:13:08.020 Boris Epstein, the president's lawyer.

00:13:10.140 Rudy, Mark Meadows.

00:13:11.980 Mark Meadows, former chief of staff.

00:13:13.540 John Eastman.

00:13:14.340 John Eastman.

00:13:14.980 And Christina Bobb of President's Lawyer, they had eight or ten high-value-added targets to take down and put in prison. 0.99

00:13:21.960 Yeah, and she tried.

00:13:24.100 She, thankfully, hasn't been successful.

00:13:26.160 But it's not just us.

00:13:27.320 I mean, the electors case, even though I would, I'm grateful that it's getting a lot of attention now because of the pardon and some of the information that's coming out.

00:13:33.740 But after the election, it really did kind of go underground for a little bit.

00:13:36.820 People were like, oh, we won.

00:13:37.940 A lot of people assumed the case was over or cases were over.

00:13:40.820 But people assumed the case was over.

00:13:42.200 That's not, you're right.

00:13:43.420 It may help them or you think, the case is not over yet.

00:13:45.720 The cases are not over.

00:13:46.520 Well, Michigan is, but none of the other ones are over yet.

00:13:49.200 Wisconsin's on.

00:13:49.880 The judge is here next week.

00:13:51.560 Arizona's on.

00:13:52.420 Yeah.

00:13:52.700 Georgia, they should dismiss it.

00:13:55.180 They don't know.

00:13:55.820 But you just saw from MMSNBC, they're lathered up because Trump could be on trial in the summer before the midterms.

00:14:00.860 Yeah, exactly.

00:14:01.660 I mean, what they're trying to do is just throw sand in the gears to, one, make sure the Trump administration doesn't actually accomplish its objectives and doesn't actually fulfill its mandates.

00:14:12.720 And then, two, just, I think they're just disgruntled people that like causing chaos.

00:14:18.600 What are you talking about?

00:14:19.360 These people are evil.

00:14:20.680 They're demonic.

00:14:21.280 They're trying to come after you guys, the white hats, the people who've done great, great work.

00:14:27.420 Birch Gold, so you're going to co-host with me for the hour.

00:14:29.740 We've got Gates from Central America live.

00:14:34.420 We're going to have Alex Brusiewicz, I think he's going to our Palm Beach studio to talk about Indiana today.

00:14:40.100 Told the president of the United States, sorry, not sorry, can't do anything on redistricting, so you suck on that.

00:14:46.620 Brusiewicz is not happy about that.

00:14:48.440 He's on the Mike Pence team.

00:14:50.140 And, of course, we've got Jack Posobiec, I think, heading to a UFC fight.

00:14:54.340 We're going to get it all done here in the war room. 0.95

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00:16:41.180 Hey, welcome back to War Room.

00:16:49.300 I'm excited to talk with Alex Brusiewicz.

00:16:51.120 You've got some fun news out of Indiana.

00:16:53.280 Alex, tell us what's going on.

00:16:55.340 I'm not sure how fun it is, Christina.

00:16:57.220 It's an actual betrayal what's happening in Indiana.

00:16:59.580 It's terrible what's happening.

00:17:00.960 We have Republicans that still have no idea what time it is.

00:17:04.080 We're watching Gavin Newsom steal five congressional seats in California, and the Republican legislature

00:17:11.000 in Indiana can't even do the right thing and do what the people of Indiana want and redistrict.

00:17:17.720 It's obstruction that's happening straight from the top.

00:17:20.980 The state Senate president, his name's Roderick Bray.

00:17:23.180 He's totally weak.

00:17:24.200 He's totally clueless.

00:17:25.560 And they're going to hurt our abilities to win in the midterms because they refuse to do

00:17:29.920 the right thing.

00:17:30.420 And so it's time after time.

00:17:32.180 The rhinos always let us down. 0.96

00:17:34.120 I'm not sure—we're now 10 years into the Donald J. Trump experiment.

00:17:37.860 Donald Trump has taught the Republican Party how to win.

00:17:40.400 And you win by being ruthless, and you win by fighting and showing courage.

00:17:44.780 You don't win by being a feckless loser.

00:17:47.800 That's the party of the past.

00:17:49.400 And for some reason, that Indiana legislature still likes to live in that.

00:17:54.000 But hang on for a second.

00:17:56.420 We're already 8 to nothing, correct?

00:17:58.360 We're 8 to nothing in Indiana.

00:18:00.320 We want to go—we want to go—we want to take this from—go to 9-1, right?

00:18:05.420 We want that extra seat.

00:18:07.240 I thought the governor was with us.

00:18:08.940 We had this huge event a couple of months ago.

00:18:12.240 Senator Banks, I think, put it on.

00:18:13.740 Raheem was out there.

00:18:14.660 I think you were—I thought we had this done.

00:18:17.220 And then Mike Pence got involved.

00:18:19.260 And then the state—why are they telling the president of the United States?

00:18:21.560 Because Virginia's just told us they're going 10-0, so we want to go 9-0 in—or 10-1 in Virginia.

00:18:27.080 We want to go 9-0 in Indiana.

00:18:29.940 Why are they getting weak now that other states have come in after the Tuesday election results,

00:18:35.000 and particularly after Newsom stole five seats in California?

00:18:39.980 Why are they getting weak now?

00:18:41.840 That's a great question, Steve.

00:18:43.320 I have no idea why they're getting weak.

00:18:44.760 And they're so weak, the state Senate president, Roderick Bray, he won't even call a vote to have redistricting voted on.

00:18:51.760 He doesn't want to have the names of the rhinos out there who are going to vote to obstruct it.

00:18:57.720 It's crazy what's happening.

00:18:59.280 And, Steve, two weeks ago we saw—on Tuesday, two weeks ago we saw that the Republican establishment totally let down the people of Virginia,

00:19:07.940 totally let down the people of New Jersey, and they still do not know how to win with Donald Trump, not on the ballot.

00:19:13.760 And I can promise you that getting weak-kneed on redistricting when the entire state of Indiana wants it.

00:19:20.600 I was just in Fort Wayne on Monday, and we had 500 people there, you know, chanting and cheering

00:19:25.520 when I was talking about how the president is advocating for redistricting.

00:19:28.640 They want it done.

00:19:29.760 But the rhinos in the legislature, they are refusing to do it. 0.99

00:19:33.300 And so we still have a really huge rhino problem.

00:19:36.060 I know you called out, Steve.

00:19:37.500 You've never stopped calling that out.

00:19:39.080 And I think a lot of people on our side in Washington are waking up to that once again

00:19:43.740 and realizing that Donald Trump might be in the White House right now,

00:19:47.320 and the Republicans still, you know, might be in the House, in the Senate,

00:19:51.500 and in legislatures all across the country.

00:19:53.520 But still, many Republicans are not with us.

00:19:55.660 They fight against us, potentially for very corrupt reasons.

00:19:58.800 And so we need at least Roderick Bray, the state Senate president, to call for a vote.

00:20:04.040 The people of Indiana deserve to know which senators are with them and who are against them.

00:20:09.820 But I can promise you that we're going to be taking a very strong look at primarying

00:20:13.340 every single rhino senator that is standing in our way on this effort. 1.00

00:20:18.440 A hundred percent.

00:20:19.420 That absolutely needs to happen.

00:20:21.340 There's been this sentiment that I've seen a little bit here in D.C., you know, certainly

00:20:25.560 in Congress, and I think maybe even in some aspects, partly of DOJ.

00:20:30.040 But it's almost like some of these Republicans seem to not realize that if they don't take

00:20:35.840 the opportunity that America gave them with this huge red wave that happened in 2024,

00:20:41.400 if they don't seize that opportunity, clean out the corruption, accomplish what needs to

00:20:45.740 accomplish, maybe they don't realize that the tables will be turned and they will be targets.

00:20:52.360 I mean, I don't know if they don't understand what happened during the previous presidential

00:20:57.540 election.

00:20:58.020 But, Alex, do you see that, whether it's in Indiana, I know you go all over the country,

00:21:02.320 is there some, like, level of a Pollyanna attitude of, oh, they're not going to come

00:21:07.560 after me, I'm, you know, I'm squeaky clean, or I'm, it's like blinded by arrogance.

00:21:12.820 I don't know what it is, but I see it, and I think they don't, they don't realize that

00:21:16.660 they're standing in the bullseye of a target, and they're about to arm their opponent.

00:21:21.540 They have to take this opportunity to disarm their opponents.

00:21:24.280 What do you think?

00:21:24.660 Well, I totally agree with you, and I was going to use the word arrogance.

00:21:28.500 There's definitely an arrogance among Republicans all across the country, and it's an unfounded

00:21:32.860 arrogance, because the Republicans' party has not had success.

00:21:37.400 Donald Trump has had success.

00:21:39.120 The only reason Republicans are in the House, and in the Senate, and in governor's mansions, 0.91

00:21:44.640 and in state legislators all across the country is because of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement.

00:21:48.780 And the MAGA movement doesn't owe the Republicans in office anything, to be honest.

00:21:54.140 And so when the Republicans in office don't fight for the MAGA voters, when they don't

00:22:00.100 fight for Republican voters, there's going to be a turnout problem.

00:22:04.100 And you saw that two Tuesdays ago in Virginia.

00:22:06.840 You saw that all across the country you're seeing that.

00:22:10.240 When Donald Trump's not on the ballot, you have to have a reason to get these people out

00:22:13.340 to vote, and they turn out for the fighters, they turn out for those who have courage.

00:22:17.280 They don't turn out for those who have weak knees and always capitulate. 1.00

00:22:22.940 And so we absolutely need the Republicans to get smart or get tough, or we're going to

00:22:29.000 have some serious problems in 26.

00:22:30.680 And Steve, I think you've been a great advocate.

00:22:32.720 It's not simply Trump as an individual, because we know we have a terrible time getting out

00:22:38.260 low propensity, low information voters, unless President Trump's on the ticket.

00:22:41.920 That's why the midterms are so important.

00:22:44.280 But it's also just from a policy or your pitch, in 28, I don't care who the candidate is, are

00:22:49.680 we going to say, this time we mean it?

00:22:51.840 This is my point.

00:22:53.060 We have a mandate.

00:22:54.740 We have the House.

00:22:55.980 We have the Senate.

00:22:57.260 We have a majority.

00:22:58.200 We have a 6-3 majority in the Supreme Court.

00:23:00.100 We have the executive branch.

00:23:01.660 You're never, ever going to have this moment in time again.

00:23:04.920 And a majority of governors and a majority of state AGs and a majority of state houses

00:23:09.400 and a majority of state legislatures are Republicans.

00:23:12.140 Hang on, hang on.

00:23:12.940 And if you take the state party delegations in Congress, if we had to have a contingent

00:23:17.500 election, you'd win there, too.

00:23:19.200 We are never going to have this again, Bruce.

00:23:21.600 So what's your thoughts?

00:23:22.860 What don't they get about, we got a mandate, you have to execute on the mandate, sir?

00:23:27.480 Well, your audience comes in so handy here, Steve, because you have the heart and soul

00:23:33.020 of our movement that listens to your show every single day.

00:23:35.660 They pick up the phones and they call their legislators and they say, do the right thing.

00:23:39.360 And so I guess I have a call to action to your audience is identify the rhinos in Indiana

00:23:44.560 who are obstructing.

00:23:45.540 Please pick up the phone and tell them to redistrict and do what the people want.

00:23:51.280 And when it comes to the Senate, like, the president has been calling to abolish the filibuster.

00:23:55.700 We have the majority and we do have a mandate.

00:23:57.860 Donald Trump won every swing state.

00:23:59.300 He won the popular vote, and not by a little margin.

00:24:01.680 He won by a substantial margin.

00:24:03.500 There's a mandate to advance the president's agenda.

00:24:05.920 Meanwhile, we have senators who refuse to get through, to end the filibuster. 1.00

00:24:10.020 And it still feels like the Democrats are in charge of the Senate, which it shouldn't

00:24:13.240 feel that way.

00:24:14.180 They were totally rejected in November.

00:24:16.260 And the Senate, it lets them get—they steamroll us. 0.99

00:24:19.800 And so we need to end the filibuster.

00:24:22.220 We need to redistrict.

00:24:23.500 And if we don't, there's going to be a massive enthusiasm problem in 2026.

00:24:28.380 And then the Senate will be like, oh, golly, please, you know, you have to turn out for

00:24:32.840 us or they're going to impeach Trump.

00:24:34.040 Like, I don't know how much—you know, it's crazy.

00:24:37.600 The only lead on Trump, I don't know what the Republican Party looks like post-Trump, because

00:24:41.220 it's clear as day that they still haven't learned any of their lessons from the years past.

00:24:46.260 Yeah, they're delusional thinking—they're kind of schizophrenic, because on one hand,

00:24:50.440 they're delusional thinking they have more support than they actually do.

00:24:53.340 But then on the other hand, they're still running on the platform of—but at least

00:24:57.900 we're not the Democrats.

00:24:59.180 I mean, that's—

00:24:59.760 That's terrible.

00:25:00.400 I know.

00:25:00.980 That's their platform.

00:25:01.800 I just want to make a mention before you leave, Bruce Owitz, the fight now is Indiana.

00:25:07.080 And we're going to have some numbers and some names tomorrow on the Saturday morning show.

00:25:10.720 So I went the whole posse.

00:25:11.740 But we have Ohio, Florida, Kansas, Nebraska, maybe Louisiana, North Carolina.

00:25:17.340 If we don't pick up a net 10 seats, and you've got Westmore calling some commission together

00:25:23.720 in Maryland, Spanberg has already said we're going 10 to 1 in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

00:25:28.480 I don't want all the riders to understand you're having—it's 6-5 now.

00:25:31.800 You're having four seats blown out, okay?

00:25:34.340 And they're going to do it.

00:25:35.680 So, Bruce Owitz, what is your call to action overall?

00:25:38.160 We'll have names and numbers tomorrow's show and Monday's show.

00:25:41.020 But right now, what's the call to action?

00:25:43.500 Well, your country needs you right now.

00:25:45.720 Your audience, our country needs you right now.

00:25:47.760 You have to be as engaged as ever.

00:25:49.780 You need to be putting pressure on the Republicans who are in positions of power and who have the

00:25:54.180 ability to do the right thing.

00:25:56.040 And if they don't, then we need to turn out in massive numbers in 2026 to primary these 0.97

00:26:02.560 people and put people in place who will have the courage.

00:26:05.900 And, you know, I think the entire MAGA movement is incredibly frustrated with what they're seeing

00:26:10.940 come out of Republicans in Washington.

00:26:12.820 They're frustrated with what they're seeing come out of Republicans in the legislature.

00:26:16.080 And then they look at the Democrats in California and in Virginia who don't get weak-kneed,

00:26:20.900 who literally just bulldoze.

00:26:22.740 And we need to take—we have to learn a few lessons from them.

00:26:26.140 We have to fight for our people.

00:26:27.840 We need to fight for what is right.

00:26:29.460 And I think your audience is going to be so critically important to make sure that they do.

00:26:33.940 Alex, what's your social media?

00:26:35.280 What are your coordinates?

00:26:36.160 Where do people get you?

00:26:36.880 Follow me, at Alex Bruzowitz, on all social media platforms.

00:26:41.280 And, Steve, thanks for the opportunity to come on.

00:26:43.440 Keep fighting, man.

00:26:44.700 You guys are such an important platform.

00:26:45.940 Your Twitter feed is on fire.

00:26:49.200 You got some attention out in Indiana today, and we'll tell you that.

00:26:51.940 Bruzowitz, we love you.

00:26:52.880 Thank you.

00:26:53.120 Keep fighting, man.

00:26:53.920 All right.

00:26:54.520 Thanks for that.

00:26:55.940 What don't they get as you go around the country?

00:26:57.920 We're at war.

00:26:58.880 This is a political war.

00:27:01.020 I genuinely think they're delusional.

00:27:02.020 Don't they know that you could go to prison for many years?

00:27:04.380 Oh, I don't think they care.

00:27:05.220 I think—I think—I wasn't planning on saying this, but I actually think there's

00:27:12.220 a large part of the Republican Party or people in politics that are fine getting rid of those

00:27:20.460 of us that—

00:27:21.540 You said the quiet part out loud.

00:27:22.680 I did.

00:27:23.260 I didn't mean to, but you asked.

00:27:25.140 So I think—I genuinely don't think they care.

00:27:28.920 They would be happy if a couple of the MAGA—the hardest-core MAGA leaders, like people like

00:27:33.260 you that have been in the trenches.

00:27:34.320 I mean, seriously, how many people were like, I'm going to fight for you, Steve?

00:27:39.120 They were happy.

00:27:40.320 Yeah, exactly.

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00:28:57.980 The great Matt Gaetz is taking some time out of the schedule to join us today from El Salvador.

00:29:02.160 Matt, thank you so much.

00:29:03.300 I think there's a lot of interest in what's going on off the coast.

00:29:07.600 You've got the Amphibious Ready group with 1,000 sailors and I think 3,000 fleet marines.

00:29:13.020 Now you've had, I think, the Gerald or Ford, the largest carrier we have, kind of a carrier

00:29:18.300 strike group down there.

00:29:19.700 Can you explain to us what's going on, Matt, as you see it and what people down in Central

00:29:23.560 America and Latin America think what's going on?

00:29:28.580 As Secretary Hegseth has announced Operation Southern Spear, I can tell you,

00:29:33.300 Latin America is totally up for grabs. 0.94

00:29:35.980 You have the left-wing alliance of Cuba, Venezuela, increasingly Colombia and Honduras.

00:29:42.800 And then you have the populist nationalist vision for Latin America, led by the president

00:29:48.000 of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele.

00:29:50.060 Mele is in that light.

00:29:51.720 Marino in Panama in that light.

00:29:53.420 Also the president of Paraguay.

00:29:55.080 And there is a great battle of ideas going on here.

00:29:58.700 Now my sources tell me that the battle over Venezuela may not even have to go kinetic if

00:30:04.820 the United States is able to force Maduro into a number of decisions.

00:30:09.300 And those decisions could divide his coalition, weaken the extent to which military generals

00:30:15.200 are reliant on him.

00:30:16.320 And here's what's interesting.

00:30:17.540 I'm watching it down here now, Steve.

00:30:19.280 The Honduran election at the end of this month could very well be a test case for whether

00:30:25.380 or not the military in Venezuela turns against the people, because we expect a lot of Venezuela's 1.00

00:30:32.080 tactics to be used by the political left in Honduras, where we think the populist would

00:30:37.040 prefer a center-right government.

00:30:39.220 But there's a left-wing government in power now.

00:30:41.300 How is that going to—how would that impact the military?

00:30:45.340 You think that could be a wedge issue, to drive a wedge between the military apparatus

00:30:49.660 and Maduro himself?

00:30:52.980 Yeah, usually when a regime is under siege like Maduro is, they try to bring their military

00:30:59.660 in closer.

00:31:00.720 They try to centralize whatever control they have over a capital or a jurisdiction.

00:31:06.000 But here we've seen Maduro take a very different tactical stance.

00:31:09.060 He's actually moved the military out into the country, hoping that if there were strikes

00:31:15.600 on Caracas, he could create chaos and violence in the outer areas of Venezuela, and that that

00:31:23.500 would give them some place in the hinterlands to control and occupy.

00:31:28.220 So as he makes that decision, there are going to be a number of these key military leaders

00:31:32.940 and generals who question it, who maybe leave Maduro's side.

00:31:37.320 And he could be very vulnerable in Caracas, not to direct kinetic U.S. military intervention,

00:31:43.340 but to simply the people there realizing that his days may be numbered.

00:31:48.080 Look, there's been some rationale about narco-terrorists, all this.

00:31:51.880 Pete, I think, has briefed—I mean, what are your sources on Capitol Hill tell you?

00:31:55.360 There have been some briefings.

00:31:56.340 They're not like trying to say, we're doing a war powers briefing.

00:31:59.660 But where do people on Capitol Hill stand with this as far as they've been briefed about

00:32:03.820 kinetic activity?

00:32:04.820 Because I hear there's a number of plans that the Pentagon has laid out and Hex has laid out

00:32:08.600 as a range of options, kinetic options, for President Trump, sir.

00:32:15.960 That is the job of the Department of War.

00:32:18.660 My understanding is that there is very strong support on Capitol Hill for the operations you

00:32:23.560 are currently seeing to take out narco-traffickers on their way to the United States.

00:32:27.780 Similarly, there's not a lot of love for Maduro.

00:32:31.160 There's not this sense that Maduro is never going to be a problem for the United States.

00:32:35.700 Look, you know me.

00:32:36.800 You know I'm not an invade-everywhere, invite-everyone Republican.

00:32:40.580 But I care a lot more about what's going on in the Gulf of America than I do the Black Sea.

00:32:45.840 I think it's a lot more consequential to people in our country what's happening in Brazil

00:32:50.200 and Honduras and Venezuela rather than what's happening in Bavaria or the Balkans

00:32:56.080 or the hills of eastern Ukraine.

00:32:58.880 And President Trump has reinvigorated that interest with his renewed focus on the Monroe Doctrine.

00:33:04.100 I think that that is going to pay dividends for our country for many years to come.

00:33:08.640 Of course, you and I know there is a latent resentment in Latin America over U.S. involvement

00:33:13.820 that dates back to the days of United Fruit and Standard Fruit.

00:33:17.500 Now, you know, they're very well-known brands of Dole and Chiquita.

00:33:20.640 But this is a different day.

00:33:22.840 And with populist nationalist leaders like Nayib Bukele rising in Latin America,

00:33:27.380 this may be an opportunity to defeat the left.

00:33:30.060 And then here's what that means for the United States.

00:33:32.340 More countries here with strong borders, strong laws,

00:33:36.340 not just a total playground for thugs and bandits and narco-traffickers. 0.81

00:33:41.920 And when our neighborhood is stronger, our country will be stronger.

00:33:45.360 This indeed is America first.

00:33:47.300 And it brings our attention closer to home.

00:33:49.140 When you mentioned the Monroe Doctrine, is this Monroe Doctrine 2.0?

00:33:53.400 Is there still some resistance to that?

00:33:55.240 I mean, when you talk to the leaders you know, particularly in Central America,

00:33:59.480 what is the ideal state that they see this as far as Monroe Doctrine

00:34:03.760 or fitting into what we're calling now hemispheric defense?

00:34:09.220 Look, they're excited by it because for so long,

00:34:12.340 when we made decisions on the Armed Services Committee, where I served for eight years,

00:34:16.480 it was all about CENTCOM, it was all about EUROCOM.

00:34:21.240 And often Southern command here in the Americas was left at the end of the whip,

00:34:28.240 not having priorities funded, not having cooperation occur, not having capabilities built up.

00:34:34.820 Our sense is that when you back strong leaders like President Bukele, like Malay in Argentina, 0.96

00:34:41.240 like Marino in Panama, then you're able to avoid circumstances where these bandits become MS-13 level problems

00:34:50.400 for the United States of America.

00:34:52.660 There are 70,000 MS-13 currently incarcerated just miles from where I am now.

00:34:58.300 They're no trouble to the United States anymore.

00:35:00.880 And strong leadership does that.

00:35:02.420 It doesn't require spilling American blood or treasure,

00:35:05.260 but it does mean we have to be more serious about our own borders.

00:35:09.720 And when we get rid of the USAID and the NGOs,

00:35:13.460 then you get rid of one of the principal irritants that get in the way of strong borders and rule of law.

00:35:20.160 It's many of those funders of the NGOs who are actually rooting for Maduro now.

00:35:24.360 The president said the other day, he was asked a question in one of these bilats,

00:35:30.040 and he answered, he says, hey, Maduro's given us everything, right?

00:35:33.140 He's given us everything you can get.

00:35:34.620 You're close to Grinnell.

00:35:35.800 Grinnell's always had a theory down there that you can negotiate some removal of Maduro

00:35:40.160 and even his military operation.

00:35:42.620 People are kind of confused in the MAGA movement.

00:35:45.300 Is this a show of force?

00:35:48.060 Are Pete and the guys really getting ready to take some kinetic action?

00:35:51.400 Is Grinnell getting a shot to do a negotiated deal?

00:35:54.400 I mean, what are your thoughts on that?

00:35:58.340 I don't believe, under President Trump,

00:36:01.860 the mere moving of all of this materiel into the Gulf of America

00:36:05.240 means that the die is already cast for kinetic conflict.

00:36:10.080 I do believe it creates leverage.

00:36:11.680 I do believe it creates uncertainty that Maduro's regime will survive.

00:36:15.940 And unlike so many places in Arabia where we were eager to topple a dictator

00:36:20.560 and then had no plan for what's next,

00:36:22.400 In Venezuela, they had an election.

00:36:24.820 Edmundo Gonzalez won that election by a margin of better than two to one.

00:36:28.640 And the military just came in, destroyed the ballots,

00:36:30.840 and indicated that they were still loyal to Maduro.

00:36:33.080 If that ceases to exist, there does remain a civil society,

00:36:37.680 a civic infrastructure that I think will have serious challenges,

00:36:41.300 but ultimately can prevail.

00:36:43.140 I don't believe that the future of Latin America is one that will be guided by the ideology of Maduro.

00:36:51.100 Whether or not he is on the next thing smoking to Russia or China or Turkey is probably yet to be seen,

00:36:57.300 but he's feeling more pressure, he's having to make more decisions, he's weaker, we're stronger,

00:37:03.480 and so is the alliance for the populist right in Latin America.

00:37:06.780 Matt, this weekend, I mean, people are kind of on a knife's edge back here in the imperial capital

00:37:12.480 about what moves are being made, particularly since we sent the carrier strike group down there.

00:37:17.060 What should you tell this audience to look for about whether it's going to go one way or the other,

00:37:21.080 maybe some war negotiations, maybe Maduro agree to some deal,

00:37:24.640 or if we're going to go in and actually do a strike?

00:37:28.440 Make us smart.

00:37:29.580 What should we be looking for?

00:37:33.480 I actually think one of the most likely scenarios here is Maduro's departure.

00:37:40.200 He takes some of the billions he's stolen.

00:37:42.680 He goes to a friendly place and, you know, continues rotating between great Turkish food and his Olympic shots.

00:37:49.700 But I think that what I'm watching is how these circumstances in Venezuela

00:37:54.840 influence the rest of the political dynamic in Latin America.

00:37:58.920 I actually don't want to see Central America go toward the leftists who want to see borders eroded,

00:38:06.400 who want to inject all kind of wokeism into their societies,

00:38:10.400 and who want to be open for business for the Chinese bribers or the narco-terrorists 0.95

00:38:15.480 who would want to use this as a launching ground for the unrestricted warfare

00:38:20.200 that is being waged against the United States.

00:38:23.140 That's what's important to me.

00:38:24.480 We think about Colombia, Steve.

00:38:26.320 That's a country America put a lot of money into in Plan Colombia.

00:38:29.600 It was the shining example of how cooperation with our country could work.

00:38:33.220 Right now, Colombia is being run by a drug-addled fool 0.90

00:38:35.980 whose own foreign minister had to resign because the president of Colombia

00:38:39.980 was coked up for two days in Paris and nobody could find him.

00:38:42.960 So that's an example of drift the wrong direction.

00:38:47.100 We're hoping to bring things back to the vision that President Bukele has seen so successful in El Salvador.

00:38:53.300 Matt, last question.

00:38:54.780 You were the best strategist we ever had about what the House should be doing.

00:38:59.000 There's a lot of controversy the last couple of days.

00:39:01.760 Maybe the administration's having a little bit lost its way,

00:39:04.740 not focused on domestic issues, particularly not focused on the economy enough.

00:39:08.660 What would be your guidance to the guys on the Hill to assist President Trump, sir?

00:39:12.960 The key coalition that elected President Trump were people under the age of 39

00:39:21.860 who were low and no propensity voters.

00:39:24.880 And the reason they voted for President Trump is because they believed he would attack a system

00:39:30.600 that has attacked the American people for the better part of 40 years.

00:39:34.720 The zenith of our popularity with this key cohort for the midterms was when Doge was announcing cuts,

00:39:41.980 when President Trump and Secretary Rubio were clearing out USAID,

00:39:46.200 when Secretary McMahon was telling about half the people at the Department of Education

00:39:50.120 that they didn't work there anymore because that was creating the hope

00:39:53.480 that there would be space for the rest of us in this world

00:39:56.720 to be able to live without the tortures of excessive government.

00:40:01.060 And I think we've got to get back to those moments of great success.

00:40:05.860 I think the shutdown presented perhaps a bit more opportunity than was ultimately captured.

00:40:11.700 I blame Chuck Schumer and the Democrats for that principally.

00:40:14.480 But I think there's plenty of time for us to win these midterms.

00:40:18.200 The tactical thing we've got to focus on is the response to Gavin Newsom.

00:40:23.360 Because if we allow what Gavin Newsom has just done in California to stand,

00:40:28.140 then we don't deserve the majority because we aren't willing to fight for it as much as the Democrats are.

00:40:33.000 But I remember being in Congress when Democrats had control, when they had subpoena power.

00:40:38.060 They tormented the president.

00:40:39.900 They did everything they could to block his agenda.

00:40:41.940 And they deprived the American people of our greatest successes.

00:40:44.920 We cannot allow that to happen again.

00:40:47.320 Matt Gaetz, you're on fire.

00:40:48.920 Your show's on fire.

00:40:49.800 What's your social media coordinates and how do we get to your nightly show?

00:40:55.880 I'm at Matt Gaetz on Twitter.

00:40:57.640 I make the Matt Gaetz show on One America News every night, 9 o'clock Eastern, 6 Pacific.

00:41:01.700 And we'd love to have folks stop in and spend some time with us.

00:41:05.340 Thank you, brother.

00:41:06.120 Appreciate you doing great work.

00:41:07.600 And you've got one of the best producers in the business.

00:41:09.900 Thank you, Steve.

00:41:10.720 Thank you, brother.

00:41:13.780 Gaetz, give me it to you straight.

00:41:15.200 You deployed as a U.S. Marine to Afghanistan?

00:41:18.760 I did.

00:41:19.580 I was in Afghanistan, I want to say, 7, 8, 9 months, something like that.

00:41:24.440 What are those Marines—you know, we just had the 250th birthday of this greatest of all of our fighting units.

00:41:31.120 What are they thinking of right now as they sit off the coast of Venezuela?

00:41:34.200 What are the Marines doing?

00:41:35.200 Well, the Marines are ready to fight, always, anywhere, whether they're sitting off the coast of Venezuela or they're at a bar in Alexandria.

00:41:41.900 I mean, you want to fight, they'll fight you.

00:41:44.860 So I don't—I think the Marines are prepared for whatever President Trump wants to do.

00:41:49.980 As far as being America first, interventionist, non-interventionist, where do you come down in Venezuela?

00:41:54.400 You know, I don't like—I don't like war.

00:42:00.620 I don't, you know, I don't like that.

00:42:02.560 But I think if I would trust any—

00:42:04.700 You're trained for war, but you're—

00:42:06.060 But you don't want to use it.

00:42:06.980 At least that's my view of it.

00:42:08.680 But if I were going to trust any president to use the strength of the American military to accomplish what needs to be accomplished while inflicting the least amount of harm, I think this is the president to do it.

00:42:20.560 This is the guy.

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00:44:08.540 Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:44:14.360 I want to talk about the book, but also what you're working at, Judicial Watch, a bunch of stuff breaking.

00:44:18.280 What's happening over there?

00:44:19.120 That's a great shop.

00:44:19.980 You got Tom Fitton's the best, the crew of the feral.

00:44:22.820 You guys, it's hammers.

00:44:24.240 I feel like I got so lucky landing there.

00:44:26.260 Judicial Watch is fantastic.

00:44:27.380 So, yeah, there have been a handful of things.

00:44:29.480 What I released most recently was the whistleblower complaint that it started as a motion in my criminal defense case,

00:44:35.320 a motion to disqualify Chris Mays.

00:44:38.020 It appears that she—

00:44:39.820 The Arizona AG.

00:44:40.540 The Arizona—yes, the Arizona Attorney General.

00:44:43.180 And then I kind of handed it off to the Department of Justice.

00:44:47.920 I filed a motion to disqualify her because she brought in an organization called States United Democracy Center to help prosecute us. 1.00

00:44:54.460 She claims attorney-client privilege.

00:44:55.780 She claimed it on the record.

00:44:56.600 She claimed it in emails.

00:44:58.040 They refused to turn everything over because they say that States United Democracy Center is part of the prosecution team.

00:45:03.760 And then—so I started digging into it, of course.

00:45:06.380 It's the Norm Eisenmark-Elias group.

00:45:08.120 It was started by—according to States United's website, they were started—they were an initiative of the Progressive State Leadership Committee,

00:45:15.940 which I looked into them, and on their 990, they have the same address, same leadership team, same bank account,

00:45:22.640 and they say, oh, the Democrat Attorney General's Association files our tax returns for us.

00:45:27.340 They're basically another name for the Democrat Attorney General's Association,

00:45:30.660 which at the time of my indictment, I was senior counsel at the RNC.

00:45:33.400 So I would say that's a conflict of interest.

00:45:36.220 Maybe.

00:45:36.620 So I looked into the Democrat Attorney General's Association.

00:45:40.120 I was just curious.

00:45:41.000 I think that's a conflict in and of itself, but I wondered if any money changed hands, so I looked up the contributions.

00:45:45.460 After the 2022 election, which was the election that got Chris Mays into office, the Democrat Attorney General's Association,

00:45:53.180 after the election, in 2023 and in 2024, they funneled a total of $200,000 to Chris Mays,

00:46:01.080 which was during the time of our grand jury investigation, which was during the time of our indictments.

00:46:05.840 I don't know.

00:46:07.940 It looks fishy to me.

00:46:09.140 And so I filed that whistleblower complaint with the Department of Justice,

00:46:12.380 and then naturally I started looking into the other states, into Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada.

00:46:16.760 We just dropped about 6,000 pages of information that came from States United.

00:46:22.080 How can people get this?

00:46:23.080 Go to the Judicial Watch website.

00:46:25.280 You can look up my whistleblower complaint there, and you can look up the latest release on Michigan.

00:46:29.380 Hang on.

00:46:29.680 I'm going to come back to your book in a second.

00:46:30.920 Poso, why are you taking the evening off?

00:46:33.540 Normally you're the hardest-working guy besides me.

00:46:35.820 What are you doing?

00:46:36.680 Somebody tells you you're going to a UFC fight?

00:46:40.080 Well, Steve, what can I say?

00:46:41.980 Tomorrow we're going, me and Tanya Tay, heading up to Madison Square Garden, New York City.

00:46:48.980 We're going to be joined by the likes of Benny Johnson and Tony Bobulinski,

00:46:53.760 and probably another star-scutted cast, because what we're going to be doing is,

00:46:57.340 before the big UFC, tomorrow night, Madison Square Garden,

00:47:00.420 everybody remembers when Trump blew the roof off there last year.

00:47:04.220 We're going back with 3,000 Charlie Kirk Freedom t-shirts with the Turning Point crew.

00:47:10.520 We're going to be handing every single one out for free.

00:47:13.820 Wow.

00:47:14.460 So give me this again.

00:47:16.060 People, you and Benny Johnson, who else are you going to go in with 3,000 of the Freedom t-shirts?

00:47:20.480 Tony Bobulinski.

00:47:21.960 We're getting the pierogi gang back together, Steve.

00:47:25.760 Pierogi gang is getting back together,

00:47:27.800 and we are going to be arriving at Madison Square Garden with pierogies,

00:47:31.660 with guumpki, with kielbasa, and with 3,000 Charlie Kirk t-shirts.

00:47:35.780 We'll teach Benny Johnson to eat some pierogi.

00:47:38.060 He'll like it.

00:47:38.600 But, yeah, Tony Bobulinski will be there.

00:47:40.180 I'll be there.

00:47:41.060 Tanya Tay will be there.

00:47:42.120 It's going to be amazing.

00:47:43.180 3,000 Freedom Charlie Kirk shirts.

00:47:45.700 That's amazing.

00:47:47.760 By the way, we're going to try to get you on.

00:47:49.140 I got some other stuff I want to go through on Ukraine and all the hot spots around the world. 0.91

00:47:53.080 We'll try to track you down tomorrow.

00:47:54.460 Where can people – if Benny Johnson is going to be there, I know it will be live streamed, right?

00:47:58.840 Benny will have his live stream in front of you.

00:48:02.160 Where can people – what are your coordinates?

00:48:05.020 Where can people get you?

00:48:06.900 You'll be up at Jack Posobiec.

00:48:08.480 We're going to be all over the place.

00:48:09.620 And, by the way, just as a special war room, since we're going for the announcements, we'll do another special announcement here for the war room posse.

00:48:17.460 You heard it here first.

00:48:19.360 I will be appearing as a special guest on the Megyn Kelly tour next week in Bakersfield, California.

00:48:28.040 Oh, wow.

00:48:29.120 That's amazing.

00:48:29.840 Give us any details about that.

00:48:32.900 So this is her Bakersfield, California stop.

00:48:35.780 It's going to be next Thursday in California.

00:48:38.840 Okay, fine.

00:48:39.660 We'll get it up.

00:48:40.120 That'll be good.

00:48:40.960 We'll see you tomorrow, Jack.

00:48:42.000 Jack Posobiec, thank you.

00:48:43.200 Look forward to tomorrow night watching you guys at UFC.

00:48:45.280 And hopefully I can get you – I'll talk to you later tonight, get you on the tomorrow show, talk some geopolitics.

00:48:50.100 Thanks, guys.

00:48:50.700 Good to see you, Christina.

00:48:52.460 You too, Jack.

00:48:53.760 It's amazing.

00:48:54.800 Jack Posobiec.

00:48:57.260 Talk to me about the book.

00:48:58.700 Yes.

00:48:58.880 How we doing?

00:48:59.440 Can we get the cover of the book up there?

00:49:01.180 The cover of the book – and, by the way, can we get the poster, that from Dan Fluet?

00:49:05.520 Dan Fluet, my producer, my film producer for years and years and years.

00:49:09.620 Took all the great photos for his book, right?

00:49:13.400 And he took the cover of your book, which is amazing, if we can get that up there.

00:49:17.540 Tell me about the book.

00:49:18.300 Why should people buy this book?

00:49:19.500 Yeah.

00:49:19.900 Defiant.

00:49:20.400 Inside the Mar-a-Lago Raid and the Left's Ongoing Lawfare.

00:49:23.060 I was President Trump's custodian of records for Mar-a-Lago.

00:49:25.380 I was on site during the raid.

00:49:26.560 I met with the Department of Justice and FBI about two months prior.

00:49:29.520 I was one of two people that did.

00:49:31.080 You know how corrupt the whole thing is.

00:49:32.440 I know how corrupt the whole thing is.

00:49:33.440 You were there at the front saying, hey, come down.

00:49:35.100 And you know absolutely everything the FBI did.

00:49:38.120 I got text messages, emails.

00:49:39.320 It's all in there.

00:49:40.320 The big takeaway that I really want people to take away is a lot of times you look at the

00:49:45.220 media and you go, you know, I know they're lying to us.

00:49:47.640 Everyone assumes the media is lying.

00:49:50.180 I want, you will be floored at how much they're lying.

00:49:53.580 It's not like a 90%, 10% truth.

00:49:55.920 It's 180 degrees from the truth, from what actually happened versus what they reported

00:50:01.180 to you.

00:50:01.540 And I really want people to understand the difference.

00:50:02.880 But this gets back to the point, the reason I want people to buy the book and go to Amazon

00:50:06.360 is that it gets back to what Bruceiewicz and Gates were saying, that we've had an opportunity.

00:50:12.680 We have a mandate.

00:50:13.880 People want to see this.

00:50:14.780 I know we got the grand jury in Southern Florida, but people want to see action taking this thing

00:50:18.580 apart, right?

00:50:19.600 Well, yeah.

00:50:19.880 And I think, I think what's so significant about that is, you know, what we're seeing

00:50:22.560 coming out of the Department of Justice right now with Bolton and Comey and Letitia James,

00:50:28.000 it's like, okay, you know, if they broke the law, they deserve to be prosecuted or whatever.

00:50:32.260 Those are not the cases that people want to see.

00:50:34.300 They want to see the cabal that raided Mar-a-Lago, that allowed the Jack Smith prosecute.

00:50:39.340 The grand conspiracy.

00:50:40.360 That's what we want to see.

00:50:41.420 Do you believe that's going in, you know, Mike Davis says, hey, you got this group down there.

00:50:45.640 Do you believe that's happening now in Fort Pierce or South Florida, wherever it's going?

00:50:48.960 I sure hope so.

00:50:49.740 I haven't seen anything on it.

00:50:51.500 You know, I know they're keeping a close hold, but I have not seen anything that leads

00:50:54.720 me to believe that's what's happening.

00:50:55.900 But maybe it is.

00:50:57.320 Judicial Watch, the best.

00:50:58.280 Where do people get your Judicial Watch?

00:50:59.880 What are your coordinates?

00:51:00.760 How do they get the book?

00:51:01.540 How do you get your Twitter, all your content?

00:51:03.620 Yep.

00:51:03.880 The book's available, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, wherever books are sold.

00:51:07.180 My social media is at Christina underscore Bob, B-O-B-B, website, ChristinaBob.com.

00:51:12.920 And yeah, you can find me there.

00:51:13.920 Thanks for doing it.

00:51:14.740 You're just in the neighborhood.

00:51:15.720 Just a neighbor.

00:51:16.280 Just stop by.

00:51:17.000 Stop by.

00:51:17.760 Hey, you're now the co-host.

00:51:19.840 We're going to Shanghai.

00:51:20.940 It's not like next man up, but hey, you never know when you do some co-hosts.

00:51:23.900 Thank you so much for doing this.

00:51:24.980 Thanks, Steve.

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Bannon's War Room - November 15, 2025

Episode 4928： Georgia Appoints A New Attorney Against Trump; Wagging The Dog With Venezuela

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