Episode 4928： Georgia Appoints A New Attorney Against Trump; Wagging The Dog With Venezuela
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After the Supreme Court disqualified Fannie Willis from the case, a new prosecutor has been appointed to take over the case. What does that mean for the future of the case in Georgia? And will it be re-opened?
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Back with this breaking news, President Trump's 2020 election interference case in Georgia
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is now in the hands of a new prosecutor after Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis
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was disqualified in the case. Let's get more from our senior legal reporter, Lisa Rubin. Lisa,
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how significant is this? Well, today was the deadline for Peter Skandakalas, who is the chair
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of this prosecuting counsel in Georgia, to find someone to potentially replace Fannie Willis after
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the Supreme Court of Georgia decided she needed to be removed from the case because of the appearance
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of impropriety. And you see, as per our reporting this morning, that Peter Skandakalas appointed Peter
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Skandakalas. I think it's significant in the sense that there is or could be some forward motion,
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but that doesn't necessarily mean that there will be. Among the options for Peter Skandakalas, of course,
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is not only reviving the case, but choosing not to revive the case. And as you and I both know,
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earlier this week, President Trump pardoned dozens of people who were allegedly involved in the fake
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elector scheme, many of them defendants and ongoing defendants in this Georgia case, if it were to be
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revived. So look to see what he's going to do in the next couple of weeks. If he does want to prosecute
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the case, then I think that he will notify Judge Scott McAfee, I'd like to have a conference. Let's get
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this train moving again. But if he doesn't, he may also make some sort of official announcement
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as to why he is wrapping the case up. Either way, I expect in the next several weeks, we'll hear from
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Mr. Skandakalas about what his plans are, Ana. How far along was the case? The case was reasonably far
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along. Discovery had concluded. There were many pretrial motions that were decided. In fact,
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one of those pretrial motions dealt with some of the charges around the RICO charge. The main charge
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here was a state racketeering conspiracy. But there were other charges that had to do with Georgia
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election law and sort of more straightforward, interfering with the process of certifying
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electors, for example. Two defendants in particular got some of those charges dismissed. John Eastman,
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the Trump attorney, and Sean Still, a Georgian. They succeeded in getting those dismissed, saying this
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is an inherently federal proceeding. The state of Georgia had no business bringing state election
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charges against us for the process of certifying electors. Perhaps we could see that argument sort
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of being revivified if Mr. Skandakalas goes forward, because that is the basis on which the administration
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has justified its pardons of folks all across these fake-door elector schemes from Georgia to Michigan
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to Wisconsin to Nevada. But let's say it stays a state case. The president couldn't do anything about it,
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could he? If it stays a state case, the president cannot do anything about it other than to advance
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the arguments that he has on the basis for which he made these pardons. You and I both know that
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constitutionally, the president has no power to pardon anyone for a state crime. But again, his position
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here is that these pardons are justifiable because these aren't, in fact, state crimes. They are federal
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crimes for which these folks were never charged, and the state had no right to bring them. So look to see
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whether or not any of these folks in the Georgia case or in any of the other cases, as they move
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forward, feel like they need to go back to that and say, hey, wait a second, I have a new argument
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that I need to make that pertains to my defect.
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This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on
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these people. I got a free shot. All these networks lying about the people. The people
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have had a belly full of it. I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've tried to do
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everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.
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And where do people like that go to share the big line? Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish
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that any of these people had a conscience. Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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Friday, 14 November, Year of War, 2025. Okay, I've got Jack Posobiec, I have Matt Gaetz,
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I got Alex Brusiewicz. Since all those are a little bit on the wimpy side, just kidding. I
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got the hammer here, Christina Bob, to start off. So we got a packed show today. You're going to be
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my wingman, but I've got you in here for a special reason. This first guy, MAGA, I mean,
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we're trying to get H.1Bs and President Trump's focus on the economy again, but I think people
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are kind of missing the Democratic plot here. Help me, this happened during our morning show
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on MSNBC, is the—and tell me what's going on in Georgia, because I guess you've got a
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pardon in Arizona, but it's not really a pardon. I want people to understand that, but
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maybe we replay this. They are talking about prosecuting the President of the United States
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on what they think is a live state charge by Fannie Wilson people, correct?
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Yes, and that's what I had to verify with you while we were watching the clip, because it's
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so kind of mind-boggling. Donald Trump is still listed as a defendant. They're still
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indicating that they're proceeding forward. It's unclear to me at this point if they actually
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plan on prosecuting this case. The— Oh, they plan on prosecuting it, don't they?
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Who can shut them down? It's a state case. Only the state attorney general? I don't even know if
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they overrule it. Well, yeah, Carr, that's another one. I mean, Carr is a nightmare for the state of
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Georgia. But Peter Skandalakis is the executive director, I think, of the prosecutor counsel for
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the state of Georgia. He's the one that took this over. That indicates to me that there was no other
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sitting prosecutor who wanted to actually take this case. He took it on, apparently, because there was
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no district attorney or AG or anybody else that wanted to inherit this turd of a case. So he took it.
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There's a status conference here in December 1st. The pleading that came out today, or the order that
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came out today, looked like the case could be proceeding forward. He's not really a sitting
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prosecutor. So there is a possibility that he put himself on the list to be able to file a motion
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to dismiss the case. So that's what I'm hoping happens. That's what should happen. I don't know
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where he will prosecute this out of. I mean, he'll have to kind of jerry-rig and create a team to do
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this. Oh, they would do that in a second? They could. Before the midterm to get Trump in a trial
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next summer? Look, it's not going to happen. But my point is, these are the type of fantasies they
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keep driving. Right. And it was so unbelievable that as the clip was playing, I had to verify
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with you, like, am I hearing what I'm hearing? Because this is so bizarre that they would try
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to do this. But yeah, there are other arguments to be made, though. And the order that came out said,
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you've got to raise your motions now. Otherwise, I'm going to assume you don't have any—like,
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I'm going to assume that we've heard everything that's going to be heard.
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There likely will be other motions raised. Certainly—
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The status conference in December, could it be dismissed then? Or is that when he sets up
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the process to dismiss it? Either way. It could be either way. And I—like I said,
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I don't really know what this prosecutor's going to do. I was—I was surprised that it happened this
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way. I thought it would be dismissed by paper rather than having a hearing. So, it—
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They may—they may actually be trying to move forward on this.
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No, if they have any possibility of keeping this thing in the public eye, they remember,
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he tried to illegitimately steal the 2020 election, which we know is opposite.
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Two things I want to get to, because of the Tina Peters, but particularly when I talk to people,
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explain to me the president's trying to be helpful here. Yeah.
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Todd Blanch and the team, Ed Martin, the Pardons team, particularly with these electors.
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But everybody's, like, kind of leaning on the shovel now, because they said, hey,
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That has no bearing on this state case, correct? Yeah.
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I mean, in Arizona, and I guess in—is it Michigan or what's it? They're going to go down—in
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Jordan, they're going to go even harder here, are they not? Or try to?
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Well, I mean, broad brush, I would say, it doesn't really have any bearing on a state case. You don't—the
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president doesn't pardon state cases. That usually comes from the governor. That's kind of the
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traditional talking point on this. However, the argument to be made with the Pardons, particularly
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in this Georgia case, it's a little bit different. I mean, Michigan's already dismissed, so it doesn't
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really matter. So it's Wisconsin and— Wisconsin, Nevada. Arizona's still open, but our indictment has
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been thrown out, so, you know, it's on—it's in the process. Are you still burning up legal fees?
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Oh, yeah. I mean, as long as the case is open. Administratively, it's open, but there's no
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valid charging document. Is it Judge Troopas, Troopas out of Wisconsin? He's going to be in
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studio. Yeah. Oh, Troopas is fantastic. He's one of the defendants. Troopas is coming to town. He's
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going to be in studio Tuesday, Wednesday. I want to get all the stories about these people because
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they've been tortured for a couple of years and spent an enormous amount of money.
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A hundred percent. And Troopas, actually, in Wisconsin, prior to coming up with the alternate
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electors' plan, he actually went to the attorney general, and they had a meeting, a hearing,
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whatever, and he said, hey, we believe that we need to preserve the electors' votes. He went and
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told them, hey, this is what we're going to do, said this to the attorney general, let us know if
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you have any problems with it, because we believe that these steps need to be taken in order to
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preserve Donald Trump's ability to cast these votes later. And the attorney general approved it.
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He said, you know, there was a memo somewhere floating around that he, that's okay, there's
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nothing illegal about this, go ahead and do it. And it was because the attorney general approved it,
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that Troopas said, okay, this is what we're going to go forward and do. And then, lo and behold,
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they turn around and indict Troopas and Mike Roman and Ken Chesborough, not even the electors. I mean,
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the Wisconsin case reeks to high heaven. But back to the pardon issue, the way the pardons could
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actually impact the state cases, if you want to, you know, go down that road, is kind of what they
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were talking about in the clip, that these are not actually state charges. These should be federal
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charges. It's a federal election. Federal law supersedes state law on this issue. And so the
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pardon, the bigger issue of what's actually being charged really is a federal, even though they're
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state charges, it is a federal offense. And so that pardon would, should apply to this case,
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to this, these state charges. It's an argument to be made. I don't know, you know, I don't know how,
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who or how anybody was going to raise it, but normally, normally a federal pardon, a presidential
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pardon wouldn't impact a state case, but there actually is an argument to be made here.
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Because it's a federal election and the heart of what they're doing is a federal election.
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But then they would be admitting that they charge you illegitimately because it's, I mean,
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the people in Arizona are not going to agree with that. The state, the AG out there is out of
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No, the AG, the AGs and Fannie Willis is, they will all oppose it, but the judge could agree
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So they, it's an, it's a motion that they might bring.
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Why is she still in a, why is she in a state prison?
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I know, but aren't they saying now that the machines are, there are problems with the
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You've got, you've got the congressman from, from Texas saying that now that some guys
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bought them that used to be a Republican state election official, that Dominion machines
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So it's Crockett, Crockett's out there saying you can't use it.
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Isn't it time, and I hear that the, that main justice has told the BOP, make arrangements
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with Colorado authorities to transfer her to a federal facility, probably to be a witness
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potentially in a federal case, but Colorado's refusing.
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I hear today that, I think EPA or somebody's sending money to Colorado, should we not just
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cut off, should we talk to the president, have him cut off all money to Colorado until
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They, I mean, they manufactured these convictions in order to score political points for, for
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And a lot of the information that's coming out, she was right.
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Like you mentioned, a lot of the, her concerns about the machines have been proven to be valid.
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And Democrats are saying now, Jasmine Crockett's one of the highest visibility.
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And she's saying, hey, Texas can't use any of these machines.
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I'm not sure they use them any, but she says the machines are going to be banned nationwide.
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You got Jasmine Crockett, the most radical, saying that.
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You know, thankfully in Arizona, we don't have that at the moment.
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Although Chris Mays is working very hard to try to do that, not just to us.
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She was throwing all you, she was throwing, it was you and Boris, they had some high-value targets.
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Tyler Boyer, the head of ballot chasing for Charlie Kirk.
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And Christina Bobb of President's Lawyer, they had eight or ten high-value-added targets to take down and put in prison.
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I mean, the electors case, even though I would, I'm grateful that it's getting a lot of attention now because of the pardon and some of the information that's coming out.
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But after the election, it really did kind of go underground for a little bit.
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A lot of people assumed the case was over or cases were over.
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It may help them or you think, the case is not over yet.
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Well, Michigan is, but none of the other ones are over yet.
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But you just saw from MMSNBC, they're lathered up because Trump could be on trial in the summer before the midterms.
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I mean, what they're trying to do is just throw sand in the gears to, one, make sure the Trump administration doesn't actually accomplish its objectives and doesn't actually fulfill its mandates.
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And then, two, just, I think they're just disgruntled people that like causing chaos.
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They're trying to come after you guys, the white hats, the people who've done great, great work.
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Birch Gold, so you're going to co-host with me for the hour.
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We're going to have Alex Brusiewicz, I think he's going to our Palm Beach studio to talk about Indiana today.
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Told the president of the United States, sorry, not sorry, can't do anything on redistricting, so you suck on that.
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And, of course, we've got Jack Posobiec, I think, heading to a UFC fight.
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We're going to get it all done here in the war room.
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It's an actual betrayal what's happening in Indiana.
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We have Republicans that still have no idea what time it is.
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We're watching Gavin Newsom steal five congressional seats in California, and the Republican legislature
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in Indiana can't even do the right thing and do what the people of Indiana want and redistrict.
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It's obstruction that's happening straight from the top.
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The state Senate president, his name's Roderick Bray.
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And they're going to hurt our abilities to win in the midterms because they refuse to do
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I'm not sure—we're now 10 years into the Donald J. Trump experiment.
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Donald Trump has taught the Republican Party how to win.
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And you win by being ruthless, and you win by fighting and showing courage.
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And for some reason, that Indiana legislature still likes to live in that.
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We want to go—we want to go—we want to take this from—go to 9-1, right?
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And then the state—why are they telling the president of the United States?
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Because Virginia's just told us they're going 10-0, so we want to go 9-0 in—or 10-1 in Virginia.
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Why are they getting weak now that other states have come in after the Tuesday election results,
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and particularly after Newsom stole five seats in California?
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And they're so weak, the state Senate president, Roderick Bray, he won't even call a vote to have redistricting voted on.
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He doesn't want to have the names of the rhinos out there who are going to vote to obstruct it.
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And, Steve, two weeks ago we saw—on Tuesday, two weeks ago we saw that the Republican establishment totally let down the people of Virginia,
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totally let down the people of New Jersey, and they still do not know how to win with Donald Trump, not on the ballot.
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And I can promise you that getting weak-kneed on redistricting when the entire state of Indiana wants it.
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I was just in Fort Wayne on Monday, and we had 500 people there, you know, chanting and cheering
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when I was talking about how the president is advocating for redistricting.
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But the rhinos in the legislature, they are refusing to do it.
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And so we still have a really huge rhino problem.
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And I think a lot of people on our side in Washington are waking up to that once again
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and realizing that Donald Trump might be in the White House right now,
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and the Republicans still, you know, might be in the House, in the Senate,
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They fight against us, potentially for very corrupt reasons.
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And so we need at least Roderick Bray, the state Senate president, to call for a vote.
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The people of Indiana deserve to know which senators are with them and who are against them.
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But I can promise you that we're going to be taking a very strong look at primarying
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every single rhino senator that is standing in our way on this effort.
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There's been this sentiment that I've seen a little bit here in D.C., you know, certainly
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in Congress, and I think maybe even in some aspects, partly of DOJ.
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But it's almost like some of these Republicans seem to not realize that if they don't take
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the opportunity that America gave them with this huge red wave that happened in 2024,
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if they don't seize that opportunity, clean out the corruption, accomplish what needs to
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accomplish, maybe they don't realize that the tables will be turned and they will be targets.
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I mean, I don't know if they don't understand what happened during the previous presidential
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But, Alex, do you see that, whether it's in Indiana, I know you go all over the country,
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is there some, like, level of a Pollyanna attitude of, oh, they're not going to come
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after me, I'm, you know, I'm squeaky clean, or I'm, it's like blinded by arrogance.
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I don't know what it is, but I see it, and I think they don't, they don't realize that
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they're standing in the bullseye of a target, and they're about to arm their opponent.
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They have to take this opportunity to disarm their opponents.
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Well, I totally agree with you, and I was going to use the word arrogance.
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There's definitely an arrogance among Republicans all across the country, and it's an unfounded
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arrogance, because the Republicans' party has not had success.
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The only reason Republicans are in the House, and in the Senate, and in governor's mansions,
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and in state legislators all across the country is because of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement.
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And the MAGA movement doesn't owe the Republicans in office anything, to be honest.
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And so when the Republicans in office don't fight for the MAGA voters, when they don't
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fight for Republican voters, there's going to be a turnout problem.
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You saw that all across the country you're seeing that.
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When Donald Trump's not on the ballot, you have to have a reason to get these people out
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to vote, and they turn out for the fighters, they turn out for those who have courage.
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They don't turn out for those who have weak knees and always capitulate.
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And so we absolutely need the Republicans to get smart or get tough, or we're going to
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And Steve, I think you've been a great advocate.
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It's not simply Trump as an individual, because we know we have a terrible time getting out
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low propensity, low information voters, unless President Trump's on the ticket.
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But it's also just from a policy or your pitch, in 28, I don't care who the candidate is, are
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You're never, ever going to have this moment in time again.
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And a majority of governors and a majority of state AGs and a majority of state houses
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and a majority of state legislatures are Republicans.
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And if you take the state party delegations in Congress, if we had to have a contingent
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What don't they get about, we got a mandate, you have to execute on the mandate, sir?
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Well, your audience comes in so handy here, Steve, because you have the heart and soul
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of our movement that listens to your show every single day.
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They pick up the phones and they call their legislators and they say, do the right thing.
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And so I guess I have a call to action to your audience is identify the rhinos in Indiana
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Please pick up the phone and tell them to redistrict and do what the people want.
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And when it comes to the Senate, like, the president has been calling to abolish the filibuster.
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He won the popular vote, and not by a little margin.
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There's a mandate to advance the president's agenda.
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Meanwhile, we have senators who refuse to get through, to end the filibuster.
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And it still feels like the Democrats are in charge of the Senate, which it shouldn't
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And the Senate, it lets them get—they steamroll us.
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And if we don't, there's going to be a massive enthusiasm problem in 2026.
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And then the Senate will be like, oh, golly, please, you know, you have to turn out for
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Like, I don't know how much—you know, it's crazy.
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The only lead on Trump, I don't know what the Republican Party looks like post-Trump, because
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it's clear as day that they still haven't learned any of their lessons from the years past.
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Yeah, they're delusional thinking—they're kind of schizophrenic, because on one hand,
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they're delusional thinking they have more support than they actually do.
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But then on the other hand, they're still running on the platform of—but at least
00:25:01.800
I just want to make a mention before you leave, Bruce Owitz, the fight now is Indiana.
00:25:07.080
And we're going to have some numbers and some names tomorrow on the Saturday morning show.
00:25:11.740
But we have Ohio, Florida, Kansas, Nebraska, maybe Louisiana, North Carolina.
00:25:17.340
If we don't pick up a net 10 seats, and you've got Westmore calling some commission together
00:25:23.720
in Maryland, Spanberg has already said we're going 10 to 1 in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
00:25:28.480
I don't want all the riders to understand you're having—it's 6-5 now.
00:25:35.680
So, Bruce Owitz, what is your call to action overall?
00:25:38.160
We'll have names and numbers tomorrow's show and Monday's show.
00:25:45.720
Your audience, our country needs you right now.
00:25:49.780
You need to be putting pressure on the Republicans who are in positions of power and who have the
00:25:56.040
And if they don't, then we need to turn out in massive numbers in 2026 to primary these
00:26:02.560
people and put people in place who will have the courage.
00:26:05.900
And, you know, I think the entire MAGA movement is incredibly frustrated with what they're seeing
00:26:12.820
They're frustrated with what they're seeing come out of Republicans in the legislature.
00:26:16.080
And then they look at the Democrats in California and in Virginia who don't get weak-kneed,
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And we need to take—we have to learn a few lessons from them.
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And I think your audience is going to be so critically important to make sure that they do.
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Follow me, at Alex Bruzowitz, on all social media platforms.
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And, Steve, thanks for the opportunity to come on.
00:26:49.200
You got some attention out in Indiana today, and we'll tell you that.
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What don't they get as you go around the country?
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Don't they know that you could go to prison for many years?
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I think—I think—I wasn't planning on saying this, but I actually think there's
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The great Matt Gaetz is taking some time out of the schedule to join us today from El Salvador.
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I think there's a lot of interest in what's going on off the coast.
00:29:07.600
You've got the Amphibious Ready group with 1,000 sailors and I think 3,000 fleet marines.
00:29:13.020
Now you've had, I think, the Gerald or Ford, the largest carrier we have, kind of a carrier
00:29:19.700
Can you explain to us what's going on, Matt, as you see it and what people down in Central
00:29:23.560
America and Latin America think what's going on?
00:29:28.580
As Secretary Hegseth has announced Operation Southern Spear, I can tell you,
00:29:35.980
You have the left-wing alliance of Cuba, Venezuela, increasingly Colombia and Honduras.
00:29:42.800
And then you have the populist nationalist vision for Latin America, led by the president
00:29:55.080
And there is a great battle of ideas going on here.
00:29:58.700
Now my sources tell me that the battle over Venezuela may not even have to go kinetic if
00:30:04.820
the United States is able to force Maduro into a number of decisions.
00:30:09.300
And those decisions could divide his coalition, weaken the extent to which military generals
00:30:19.280
The Honduran election at the end of this month could very well be a test case for whether
00:30:25.380
or not the military in Venezuela turns against the people, because we expect a lot of Venezuela's
00:30:32.080
tactics to be used by the political left in Honduras, where we think the populist would
00:30:39.220
But there's a left-wing government in power now.
00:30:41.300
How is that going to—how would that impact the military?
00:30:45.340
You think that could be a wedge issue, to drive a wedge between the military apparatus
00:30:52.980
Yeah, usually when a regime is under siege like Maduro is, they try to bring their military
00:31:00.720
They try to centralize whatever control they have over a capital or a jurisdiction.
00:31:06.000
But here we've seen Maduro take a very different tactical stance.
00:31:09.060
He's actually moved the military out into the country, hoping that if there were strikes
00:31:15.600
on Caracas, he could create chaos and violence in the outer areas of Venezuela, and that that
00:31:23.500
would give them some place in the hinterlands to control and occupy.
00:31:28.220
So as he makes that decision, there are going to be a number of these key military leaders
00:31:32.940
and generals who question it, who maybe leave Maduro's side.
00:31:37.320
And he could be very vulnerable in Caracas, not to direct kinetic U.S. military intervention,
00:31:43.340
but to simply the people there realizing that his days may be numbered.
00:31:48.080
Look, there's been some rationale about narco-terrorists, all this.
00:31:51.880
Pete, I think, has briefed—I mean, what are your sources on Capitol Hill tell you?
00:31:56.340
They're not like trying to say, we're doing a war powers briefing.
00:31:59.660
But where do people on Capitol Hill stand with this as far as they've been briefed about
00:32:04.820
Because I hear there's a number of plans that the Pentagon has laid out and Hex has laid out
00:32:08.600
as a range of options, kinetic options, for President Trump, sir.
00:32:18.660
My understanding is that there is very strong support on Capitol Hill for the operations you
00:32:23.560
are currently seeing to take out narco-traffickers on their way to the United States.
00:32:27.780
Similarly, there's not a lot of love for Maduro.
00:32:31.160
There's not this sense that Maduro is never going to be a problem for the United States.
00:32:36.800
You know I'm not an invade-everywhere, invite-everyone Republican.
00:32:40.580
But I care a lot more about what's going on in the Gulf of America than I do the Black Sea.
00:32:45.840
I think it's a lot more consequential to people in our country what's happening in Brazil
00:32:50.200
and Honduras and Venezuela rather than what's happening in Bavaria or the Balkans
00:32:58.880
And President Trump has reinvigorated that interest with his renewed focus on the Monroe Doctrine.
00:33:04.100
I think that that is going to pay dividends for our country for many years to come.
00:33:08.640
Of course, you and I know there is a latent resentment in Latin America over U.S. involvement
00:33:13.820
that dates back to the days of United Fruit and Standard Fruit.
00:33:17.500
Now, you know, they're very well-known brands of Dole and Chiquita.
00:33:22.840
And with populist nationalist leaders like Nayib Bukele rising in Latin America,
00:33:30.060
And then here's what that means for the United States.
00:33:32.340
More countries here with strong borders, strong laws,
00:33:36.340
not just a total playground for thugs and bandits and narco-traffickers.
00:33:41.920
And when our neighborhood is stronger, our country will be stronger.
00:33:49.140
When you mentioned the Monroe Doctrine, is this Monroe Doctrine 2.0?
00:33:55.240
I mean, when you talk to the leaders you know, particularly in Central America,
00:33:59.480
what is the ideal state that they see this as far as Monroe Doctrine
00:34:03.760
or fitting into what we're calling now hemispheric defense?
00:34:09.220
Look, they're excited by it because for so long,
00:34:12.340
when we made decisions on the Armed Services Committee, where I served for eight years,
00:34:16.480
it was all about CENTCOM, it was all about EUROCOM.
00:34:21.240
And often Southern command here in the Americas was left at the end of the whip,
00:34:28.240
not having priorities funded, not having cooperation occur, not having capabilities built up.
00:34:34.820
Our sense is that when you back strong leaders like President Bukele, like Malay in Argentina,
00:34:41.240
like Marino in Panama, then you're able to avoid circumstances where these bandits become MS-13 level problems
00:34:52.660
There are 70,000 MS-13 currently incarcerated just miles from where I am now.
00:34:58.300
They're no trouble to the United States anymore.
00:35:02.420
It doesn't require spilling American blood or treasure,
00:35:05.260
but it does mean we have to be more serious about our own borders.
00:35:13.460
then you get rid of one of the principal irritants that get in the way of strong borders and rule of law.
00:35:20.160
It's many of those funders of the NGOs who are actually rooting for Maduro now.
00:35:24.360
The president said the other day, he was asked a question in one of these bilats,
00:35:30.040
and he answered, he says, hey, Maduro's given us everything, right?
00:35:35.800
Grinnell's always had a theory down there that you can negotiate some removal of Maduro
00:35:42.620
People are kind of confused in the MAGA movement.
00:35:48.060
Are Pete and the guys really getting ready to take some kinetic action?
00:35:51.400
Is Grinnell getting a shot to do a negotiated deal?
00:36:01.860
the mere moving of all of this materiel into the Gulf of America
00:36:05.240
means that the die is already cast for kinetic conflict.
00:36:11.680
I do believe it creates uncertainty that Maduro's regime will survive.
00:36:15.940
And unlike so many places in Arabia where we were eager to topple a dictator
00:36:24.820
Edmundo Gonzalez won that election by a margin of better than two to one.
00:36:28.640
And the military just came in, destroyed the ballots,
00:36:30.840
and indicated that they were still loyal to Maduro.
00:36:33.080
If that ceases to exist, there does remain a civil society,
00:36:37.680
a civic infrastructure that I think will have serious challenges,
00:36:43.140
I don't believe that the future of Latin America is one that will be guided by the ideology of Maduro.
00:36:51.100
Whether or not he is on the next thing smoking to Russia or China or Turkey is probably yet to be seen,
00:36:57.300
but he's feeling more pressure, he's having to make more decisions, he's weaker, we're stronger,
00:37:03.480
and so is the alliance for the populist right in Latin America.
00:37:06.780
Matt, this weekend, I mean, people are kind of on a knife's edge back here in the imperial capital
00:37:12.480
about what moves are being made, particularly since we sent the carrier strike group down there.
00:37:17.060
What should you tell this audience to look for about whether it's going to go one way or the other,
00:37:21.080
maybe some war negotiations, maybe Maduro agree to some deal,
00:37:24.640
or if we're going to go in and actually do a strike?
00:37:33.480
I actually think one of the most likely scenarios here is Maduro's departure.
00:37:42.680
He goes to a friendly place and, you know, continues rotating between great Turkish food and his Olympic shots.
00:37:49.700
But I think that what I'm watching is how these circumstances in Venezuela
00:37:54.840
influence the rest of the political dynamic in Latin America.
00:37:58.920
I actually don't want to see Central America go toward the leftists who want to see borders eroded,
00:38:06.400
who want to inject all kind of wokeism into their societies,
00:38:10.400
and who want to be open for business for the Chinese bribers or the narco-terrorists
00:38:15.480
who would want to use this as a launching ground for the unrestricted warfare
00:38:26.320
That's a country America put a lot of money into in Plan Colombia.
00:38:29.600
It was the shining example of how cooperation with our country could work.
00:38:33.220
Right now, Colombia is being run by a drug-addled fool
00:38:35.980
whose own foreign minister had to resign because the president of Colombia
00:38:39.980
was coked up for two days in Paris and nobody could find him.
00:38:42.960
So that's an example of drift the wrong direction.
00:38:47.100
We're hoping to bring things back to the vision that President Bukele has seen so successful in El Salvador.
00:38:54.780
You were the best strategist we ever had about what the House should be doing.
00:38:59.000
There's a lot of controversy the last couple of days.
00:39:01.760
Maybe the administration's having a little bit lost its way,
00:39:04.740
not focused on domestic issues, particularly not focused on the economy enough.
00:39:08.660
What would be your guidance to the guys on the Hill to assist President Trump, sir?
00:39:12.960
The key coalition that elected President Trump were people under the age of 39
00:39:24.880
And the reason they voted for President Trump is because they believed he would attack a system
00:39:30.600
that has attacked the American people for the better part of 40 years.
00:39:34.720
The zenith of our popularity with this key cohort for the midterms was when Doge was announcing cuts,
00:39:41.980
when President Trump and Secretary Rubio were clearing out USAID,
00:39:46.200
when Secretary McMahon was telling about half the people at the Department of Education
00:39:50.120
that they didn't work there anymore because that was creating the hope
00:39:53.480
that there would be space for the rest of us in this world
00:39:56.720
to be able to live without the tortures of excessive government.
00:40:01.060
And I think we've got to get back to those moments of great success.
00:40:05.860
I think the shutdown presented perhaps a bit more opportunity than was ultimately captured.
00:40:11.700
I blame Chuck Schumer and the Democrats for that principally.
00:40:14.480
But I think there's plenty of time for us to win these midterms.
00:40:18.200
The tactical thing we've got to focus on is the response to Gavin Newsom.
00:40:23.360
Because if we allow what Gavin Newsom has just done in California to stand,
00:40:28.140
then we don't deserve the majority because we aren't willing to fight for it as much as the Democrats are.
00:40:33.000
But I remember being in Congress when Democrats had control, when they had subpoena power.
00:40:39.900
They did everything they could to block his agenda.
00:40:41.940
And they deprived the American people of our greatest successes.
00:40:49.800
What's your social media coordinates and how do we get to your nightly show?
00:40:57.640
I make the Matt Gaetz show on One America News every night, 9 o'clock Eastern, 6 Pacific.
00:41:01.700
And we'd love to have folks stop in and spend some time with us.
00:41:07.600
And you've got one of the best producers in the business.
00:41:19.580
I was in Afghanistan, I want to say, 7, 8, 9 months, something like that.
00:41:24.440
What are those Marines—you know, we just had the 250th birthday of this greatest of all of our fighting units.
00:41:31.120
What are they thinking of right now as they sit off the coast of Venezuela?
00:41:35.200
Well, the Marines are ready to fight, always, anywhere, whether they're sitting off the coast of Venezuela or they're at a bar in Alexandria.
00:41:44.860
So I don't—I think the Marines are prepared for whatever President Trump wants to do.
00:41:49.980
As far as being America first, interventionist, non-interventionist, where do you come down in Venezuela?
00:42:08.680
But if I were going to trust any president to use the strength of the American military to accomplish what needs to be accomplished while inflicting the least amount of harm, I think this is the president to do it.
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I want to talk about the book, but also what you're working at, Judicial Watch, a bunch of stuff breaking.
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You got Tom Fitton's the best, the crew of the feral.
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What I released most recently was the whistleblower complaint that it started as a motion in my criminal defense case,
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They refused to turn everything over because they say that States United Democracy Center is part of the prosecution team.
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And then—so I started digging into it, of course.
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It was started by—according to States United's website, they were started—they were an initiative of the Progressive State Leadership Committee,
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They're basically another name for the Democrat Attorney General's Association,
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which at the time of my indictment, I was senior counsel at the RNC.
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So I looked into the Democrat Attorney General's Association.
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I think that's a conflict in and of itself, but I wondered if any money changed hands, so I looked up the contributions.
00:45:45.460
After the 2022 election, which was the election that got Chris Mays into office, the Democrat Attorney General's Association,
00:45:53.180
after the election, in 2023 and in 2024, they funneled a total of $200,000 to Chris Mays,
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which was during the time of our grand jury investigation, which was during the time of our indictments.
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And so I filed that whistleblower complaint with the Department of Justice,
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and then naturally I started looking into the other states, into Michigan, Wisconsin, and Nevada.
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We just dropped about 6,000 pages of information that came from States United.
00:46:25.280
You can look up my whistleblower complaint there, and you can look up the latest release on Michigan.
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I'm going to come back to your book in a second.
00:46:33.540
Normally you're the hardest-working guy besides me.
00:46:36.680
Somebody tells you you're going to a UFC fight?
00:46:41.980
Tomorrow we're going, me and Tanya Tay, heading up to Madison Square Garden, New York City.
00:46:48.980
We're going to be joined by the likes of Benny Johnson and Tony Bobulinski,
00:46:53.760
and probably another star-scutted cast, because what we're going to be doing is,
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before the big UFC, tomorrow night, Madison Square Garden,
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everybody remembers when Trump blew the roof off there last year.
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We're going back with 3,000 Charlie Kirk Freedom t-shirts with the Turning Point crew.
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We're going to be handing every single one out for free.
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People, you and Benny Johnson, who else are you going to go in with 3,000 of the Freedom t-shirts?
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We're getting the pierogi gang back together, Steve.
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and we are going to be arriving at Madison Square Garden with pierogies,
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with guumpki, with kielbasa, and with 3,000 Charlie Kirk t-shirts.
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I got some other stuff I want to go through on Ukraine and all the hot spots around the world.
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Where can people – if Benny Johnson is going to be there, I know it will be live streamed, right?
00:47:58.840
Benny will have his live stream in front of you.
00:48:02.160
Where can people – what are your coordinates?
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And, by the way, just as a special war room, since we're going for the announcements, we'll do another special announcement here for the war room posse.
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I will be appearing as a special guest on the Megyn Kelly tour next week in Bakersfield, California.
00:48:43.200
Look forward to tomorrow night watching you guys at UFC.
00:48:45.280
And hopefully I can get you – I'll talk to you later tonight, get you on the tomorrow show, talk some geopolitics.
00:49:01.180
The cover of the book – and, by the way, can we get the poster, that from Dan Fluet?
00:49:05.520
Dan Fluet, my producer, my film producer for years and years and years.
00:49:13.400
And he took the cover of your book, which is amazing, if we can get that up there.
00:49:20.400
Inside the Mar-a-Lago Raid and the Left's Ongoing Lawfare.
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I was President Trump's custodian of records for Mar-a-Lago.
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I met with the Department of Justice and FBI about two months prior.
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You were there at the front saying, hey, come down.
00:49:35.100
And you know absolutely everything the FBI did.
00:49:40.320
The big takeaway that I really want people to take away is a lot of times you look at the
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media and you go, you know, I know they're lying to us.
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I want, you will be floored at how much they're lying.
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It's 180 degrees from the truth, from what actually happened versus what they reported
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And I really want people to understand the difference.
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But this gets back to the point, the reason I want people to buy the book and go to Amazon
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is that it gets back to what Bruceiewicz and Gates were saying, that we've had an opportunity.
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I know we got the grand jury in Southern Florida, but people want to see action taking this thing
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And I think, I think what's so significant about that is, you know, what we're seeing
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coming out of the Department of Justice right now with Bolton and Comey and Letitia James,
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it's like, okay, you know, if they broke the law, they deserve to be prosecuted or whatever.
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Those are not the cases that people want to see.
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They want to see the cabal that raided Mar-a-Lago, that allowed the Jack Smith prosecute.
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Do you believe that's going in, you know, Mike Davis says, hey, you got this group down there.
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Do you believe that's happening now in Fort Pierce or South Florida, wherever it's going?
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You know, I know they're keeping a close hold, but I have not seen anything that leads
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