Bannon's War Room - Episode 4943： Biden's DOJ Spied On Congress; AI's Manipulating And Murder Of Children

00:00:00.000 President Trump, of course, accusing that group of Democratic lawmakers of seditious behavior that he says could be, quote, punishable by death.

00:00:09.320 It's an all caps claim from the president of the United States.

00:00:13.340 And it comes after the lawmakers, all of whom served in the military or intelligence community served this country.

00:00:19.920 His messages were very clear. He views anybody who challenges him, who seems to tell people not to listen to him, to listen to illegal orders of being traitors.

00:00:32.500 Basically, he has now it's not the first time he said that people who stand up to him or who disagree with him are committing treason.

00:00:39.100 He says that with some regularity and he makes he blends the idea of loyalty to him to being loyalty to the state.

00:00:50.620 It's literally a case where he is saying that these people who are who are saying don't do anything illegal, that that amounts to sedition, saying don't do something illegal amounts to sedition.

00:01:02.400 Now, you'll hear the White House press secretary say, well, that's not what he meant.

00:01:04.800 You're all you're all getting worked up about things. You're overinterpreting. You're distorting.

00:01:10.340 And as Senator Jones says, let's let's, you know, let's assume that that's true.

00:01:14.860 But there's a discordant message. And he wants the first message to be out there.

00:01:18.860 He wants them to think that they are at risk.

00:01:22.300 He wants to intimidate people by making them think that they would suffer consequences if they say things that he doesn't like.

00:01:29.060 These people are lying through their through their teeth.

00:01:32.680 These people are lying through their teeth.

00:01:35.160 He didn't say it. It was just half.

00:01:36.960 It was like it was like Joe Biden when he said yes.

00:01:41.560 So anyway, do that.

00:01:43.120 These people are lying, but they are.

00:01:46.560 Mike Johnson knows that this is all about what military men and women need to do to uphold their sacred oath.

00:01:56.120 And that is not commit illegal actions.

00:01:59.240 And they know that.

00:02:00.240 And yet they keep lying through their teeth.

00:02:02.160 Rhetoric allows the president to use his platform and his bully pulpit to say things like this about members of Congress.

00:02:09.720 I also think it's worth remembering what happened on January 6th when the same kind of rhetoric that the president used then when talking about overturning the results of a lawful election led to some of his supporters to build a gallows on the grounds of Capitol Hill aimed for or with the intention of sending a message to Vice President Mike Pence.

00:02:32.880 So words have actions. The president knows that words have actions.

00:02:36.280 One of those actions is quite rightly what you're saying is is the distraction that comes from throwing things out like this.

00:02:43.140 But it's more than just words.

00:02:45.320 It's it's very dangerous words that his people may act upon.

00:02:49.600 Let's be let's be candid.

00:02:50.860 We're all leading with everything that Donald Trump said.

00:02:53.720 And I go back to what I just said when when his press secretary was asked specifically, did he mean to execute people?

00:03:00.220 She said no. And and quite frankly, I wish the media would just stop right there and just leave it at that and not give any air to anything else.

00:03:08.160 He didn't mean that. Of course, he is saying that and people are hearing things.

00:03:12.520 And, you know, look, there are folks out there that hear things differently than what a normal ear will hear.

00:03:19.020 And that is the frightening thing about this.

00:03:21.260 We have seen it time and time again, and it is still on the rise.

00:03:25.060 And the offender in chief of this is Donald Trump.

00:03:28.480 And he knows he knows exactly what he's doing.

00:03:32.020 It's very difficult for the media and for folks like us to not talk about it.

00:03:36.660 But at the same time, I think that we need to also be very careful in how we present this and make sure that we understand that even his own office is saying that that is not what he meant.

00:03:48.320 Let the chips fall where they're going to fall everywhere else.

00:03:50.780 But let's get away from any talk about violence.

00:03:53.000 The operation crackdown in Charlotte, North Carolina, is not over, despite earlier reports that the operation had concluded.

00:04:01.420 Initially, the Mecklenburg County Sheriff's Office said yesterday that Border Patrol had ended its immigration enforcement operation in the city nearly a week after the agency first deployed agents to the state's most populated city.

00:04:15.960 But just hours later, several local media outlets reported DHS officials had informed them the operation was still active.

00:04:24.380 Look at that picture.

00:04:25.000 And would not be ending.

00:04:26.980 Just look at that picture.

00:04:27.760 Anytime soon.

00:04:29.040 If you're in Carolina, if you're in North Carolina, a swing state, and you see that, like, by, like, where your kid, you're picking your kids up for school.

00:04:37.320 Yeah.

00:04:38.520 Or if you see that downtown, or if you see that by a mall, or you see it by a Piggly Wiggly.

00:04:45.440 I mean, what are you thinking?

00:04:47.240 You're not thinking, oh, these are the good old days.

00:04:50.200 I mean, you're thinking, like, man, come on.

00:04:52.820 It looks like an occupying army.

00:04:54.300 Yeah.

00:04:54.780 Why are you occupying, like, Billy Graham's hometown?

00:04:59.400 And your kid's friend's mom is taken away by these people?

00:05:03.380 I don't know.

00:05:04.100 It's just really not.

00:05:07.880 It's just not a good look.

00:05:08.980 It doesn't feel American.

00:05:12.020 Well, it's just not.

00:05:12.680 It doesn't.

00:05:13.320 And it's not a good look for people in Charlotte.

00:05:19.140 It's not a good look for this administration.

00:05:21.840 I mean, listen, there are ways to do this.

00:05:24.500 Yeah.

00:05:25.020 There are ways.

00:05:25.700 This is not the way to do it.

00:05:26.920 So, as of yesterday, Homeland Security said more than 370 people had been arrested in the Charlotte area since the operation launched last week.

00:05:39.200 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:05:44.060 Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.

00:05:49.320 Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:05:53.620 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:05:55.540 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:05:56.920 I know you're trying to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.

00:05:59.660 It's going to happen.

00:06:00.920 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:06:04.320 Mega media.

00:06:05.660 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:06:11.060 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:06:14.880 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:06:21.040 It's Friday, 21 November, Year of the Lord, 2025.

00:06:31.620 We are absolutely packed today and nothing but work for you guys.

00:06:34.840 So, we're going to be manning the ramparts on many, many, many different topics.

00:06:37.860 From Tina Peters is in the hole, in the shoe, the special housing unit out in Colorado.

00:06:44.580 We got redistricting.

00:06:46.160 We have this situation with President Trump where they're trying to countermand his orders already.

00:06:51.760 This is getting as nasty, as nasty, as nasty as possible.

00:06:56.320 And, yes, Morning Joe, 30,000 students have not attended the public school system in Charlotte

00:07:04.800 because they're staying out because they're illegal aliens.

00:07:09.740 And, I'm sorry, the president has a mandate to do mass deportations and to go to the work sites

00:07:15.300 and to start rousting up the CEOs and CFOs that are paying.

00:07:19.700 You see these construction sites.

00:07:21.500 It has to happen.

00:07:22.400 American citizens want jobs and American students have to get a great education.

00:07:26.980 You can't do this.

00:07:27.800 You can't come here illegally.

00:07:29.060 We're sorry that it offends your sensibility.

00:07:32.140 So, there's so much going on with the deep state, with everything.

00:07:35.680 And, I'm telling you, these former CIA officials and military officers looking to a camera

00:07:42.300 and basically trying to institute seditious treason, right, is a problem.

00:07:48.540 It's got to be dealt with.

00:07:49.660 John Solomon, yesterday you had at National Cathedral, you had the deep state come together for Cheney's funeral.

00:07:59.060 And, you've got this thing right now.

00:08:02.320 They're pressing President Trump.

00:08:03.800 And, President Trump went back and said, hey, we're not going to let you interfere with orders he gives as Commander-in-Chief.

00:08:09.840 Last night, a federal judge ordered the National Guard out of, I think, out of Washington, D.C. in three weeks.

00:08:16.560 Somebody could take that as an illegal order to do it.

00:08:20.000 The Supreme Court, we've won 21 of 23 cases at the Supreme Court.

00:08:25.820 What they're doing is jeopardizing the national security, and they're jeopardizing the safety and security of the American people, John Solomon.

00:08:32.420 Well, listen, I was sitting in an airport a couple weeks ago coming back in the morning.

00:08:37.560 Morning Joe was on, and there was a guy sitting next to me in the breakfast restaurant watching it.

00:08:42.060 And, he looked over to me and said, people who watch that show must be sentenced to a life of stupidity,

00:08:47.280 meaning that they just want their stupid ideas reaffirmed.

00:08:50.640 And, I smiled and said, oh, I get where you're coming from.

00:08:54.480 You know, what they said in that little three, four-minute ditty is all stupid.

00:08:58.780 It's not what the American people told the president they wanted.

00:09:01.480 They did want those guys in camo.

00:09:03.160 And, the only reason those guys and gals in camo are there is because a president unlocked our border 0.97

00:09:08.800 and allowed murderers and rapists and sex traffickers and drug cartels to pour across the border in the millions.

00:09:14.960 And, Donald Trump was forced to do it.

00:09:16.420 Donald Trump wouldn't be deploying the National Guard if that situation hadn't been allowed to happen.

00:09:23.340 The American people have figured this out.

00:09:24.860 The greatest sin that the Democrats have is that they think the American people are stupid.

00:09:30.420 They think the men and women in uniform are stupid.

00:09:33.540 So, they say something like, oh, you must disobey an illegal order.

00:09:36.740 Those guys aren't going to disobey a presidential order.

00:09:39.280 Those men and women believe in the command structure.

00:09:42.140 They believe in the greatness of this country.

00:09:43.980 They don't believe in DEI.

00:09:45.500 They don't believe in CRT and communism and Madami.

00:09:48.360 They believe in the greatness of America.

00:09:49.760 They're going to follow the orders because the orders are lawful.

00:09:52.560 And, they believe in this country.

00:09:53.740 It's those who go on and spread this propaganda that are trying to destroy it.

00:09:58.240 And, it's those men and women who were treated stupidly by that group of congressmen

00:10:02.200 that are today going to do the right thing and tomorrow are going to do the right thing

00:10:05.300 because they're not influenced by the stupidity of democratic politics.

00:10:09.840 You've been doing some great reporting.

00:10:11.340 I'm going to get to this in a second.

00:10:12.300 But, you see the brazenness right now of the apparatus, of the deep state, of the opposition to Trump.

00:10:19.420 And, I'm telling folks, this is going to get so much worse.

00:10:22.860 They're coming now.

00:10:23.620 They're coming in for the kill, right?

00:10:25.460 They think they've got a little momentum coming off the election.

00:10:28.000 They've got a little momentum on the economy.

00:10:29.980 They've got people in Indiana standing up to them.

00:10:32.000 Other people, right, about the redistricting and all this.

00:10:35.100 But, the most aggressive of these, and a lot of those were in that video.

00:10:39.280 But, you're going to see now it's going to be open season on President Trump from every direction.

00:10:43.560 I want to tell this posse, you better get ready because, man, they're going to roll and they're going to roll hard, John Solomon.

00:10:48.420 Yeah, listen, they've had some mebb and flows.

00:10:51.640 But, they've been in open season since the guy came down the golden elevator in 2015.

00:10:55.560 And, they've done everything outside the Constitution and inside the Constitution to try to stop him.

00:11:01.160 You have a judge yesterday that tried to, or two days ago, that tried to portray the indictment of James Comey as an unlawful indictment.

00:11:08.600 That the grand jury got suckered into indicting the guy.

00:11:12.900 And, then you go look at the transcript, the grand jury knew exactly what it was doing.

00:11:17.060 When a judge does that, he dishonors everyone who wears the black robe.

00:11:21.580 When members of Congress implicitly try to suggest, hey, you guys are too stupid to know a lawful and unlawful order.

00:11:29.320 So, we've got to help you defy the President of the United States.

00:11:32.080 They think those soldiers are stupid.

00:11:33.900 They're just in an era of all-out war because they see something going on.

00:11:39.100 The country is more red by day.

00:11:41.040 There's going to be a ruling in early spring next year that's going to end the racial gerrymandering,

00:11:46.460 which has propped up the Democratic Party with fake congressional districts.

00:11:50.280 And, they've got to find some other tactic to win.

00:11:53.160 Now, what has to be done on the other side for Republicans is they've got to wise up.

00:11:57.420 They've got to stop talking about things that don't matter to the American people,

00:12:00.380 or they're going to get their derriors kicked in 2026. 0.99

00:12:02.580 They've got to go out and do the hourly voting machinery they did in 24 and forgot about in 25.

00:12:08.040 It's about the kitchen table.

00:12:09.520 It's about the dinner table.

00:12:10.800 It's about the water cooler.

00:12:12.420 Don't focus on international silly stupid warfare among people who no one's ever heard of.

00:12:17.220 2% of Americans, who Nick Fuentes is, and yet millions and millions of comments have been wasted on social media.

00:12:23.120 How about talking about the fact that eggs and electricity and gas and prescriptions are down?

00:12:29.500 How about talking about the greatest corporate welfare program that Democrats created and then close the government on so that their big fat cat donors could get their next tranche of fake subsidies to keep their profits up? 0.92

00:12:42.120 Those are the things that are going to win the next election, along with early voting.

00:12:45.300 I want to say this again.

00:12:46.400 Until the Republicans have the courage, and they don't have it, until they have the courage to restore election day instead of election trimester,

00:12:53.820 we're going to have to, the Republicans are going to have to play the same game.

00:12:56.900 Otherwise, it's like going out in a football game without your wide receiver and your running back and then wondering why you lost at the end of the game.

00:13:02.820 So the great early voting operation that President Trump did in 24 was non-existent in 25.

00:13:08.680 They should be ashamed of themselves.

00:13:09.880 You win elections by getting people to the polls and talking about the issues that people want addressed.

00:13:15.960 And there's a lot that Republicans have done.

00:13:18.000 They haven't sold a single penny of it.

00:13:21.720 John, I want to hold you through the break.

00:13:23.660 I know you're busy, but I can't hold you through the break.

00:13:25.040 Just give me a minute teeing up on this newest story you've got,

00:13:27.900 because I'm saying about the deep state and the administrative state.

00:13:30.020 They're getting more brazen because they're not being held accountable.

00:13:32.600 You've got, maybe just tease it and we'll hold, but tell me about the pipe bomb.

00:13:37.140 Because the pipe bomb has been getting millions of hits over the last couple of weeks.

00:13:40.940 What's reality?

00:13:42.740 Four years later, we just found out there was a third stop on the pipe bomber's trip when they were planting the bombs.

00:13:47.780 And it was the Congressional Back Caucus Institute.

00:13:49.900 The person kneeled down there for a period of time.

00:13:52.160 You think our government might have told us that before the last four years?

00:13:55.480 It's a new data point.

00:13:56.900 It's a new piece of video footage.

00:13:58.180 It suggests maybe they have some familiarity with that era.

00:14:01.180 That was never given to us.

00:14:02.580 We can talk about that on the other side of the break.

00:14:05.520 John Solomon's with us.

00:14:07.000 Short commercial break.

00:14:08.040 Jim Hoft is also going to join us.

00:14:09.640 Amazing reporting over at the Gateway Pundit.

00:14:12.580 We're going to get into that about the treasonous and the treason and seditious conspiracy.

00:14:17.220 There's a grand jury down there about the first 10 years that John Solomon has laid out.

00:14:23.680 But they're at it again.

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00:16:42.980 John Solomon's with us.

00:16:44.280 John, I think the first thing that pops...

00:16:46.380 Walk us through the story.

00:16:47.540 But the first thing that Warren Posse's head's blown up is how are we finding out a third stop?

00:16:53.540 What?

00:16:53.980 How many years later is it?

00:16:57.180 Six, seven years later?

00:16:58.580 How do we find out?

00:16:59.360 Why do we find out now it's a third stop, sir?

00:17:02.620 Well, because a member of Congress did the gumshoe work.

00:17:05.780 And he took the map.

00:17:06.960 The FBI had the map showing that person going by the Congressional Black Caucus.

00:17:11.480 And he went and looked at the video like, wait a second.

00:17:13.140 They stopped here.

00:17:13.740 They kneeled down.

00:17:14.680 Could they have planted a bomb?

00:17:16.260 Did they know the place?

00:17:17.340 Was that a place familiar with them?

00:17:18.460 So they felt like a moment of safety.

00:17:20.480 Congressman Barry Loudemuk, the chairman of the January 6th Committee, who doesn't get even a lot of support from his own caucus, went and found that.

00:17:27.280 And the FBI is grateful.

00:17:28.680 But the FBI said last night, thank you, Chairman Loudemuk.

00:17:31.480 We're going to work on it.

00:17:32.200 Now, here's what I think.

00:17:33.100 My reporting indicates the FBI is very close to breaking the January 6th case.

00:17:39.020 They are surrounding a group of people, and they're getting closer to solving that case.

00:17:43.440 I would not be surprised by Christmas if we have some clarity about what happened there.

00:17:48.000 So keep an eye on that.

00:17:49.240 I think the other thing that's going on, and, you know, there's a lot to be frustrated.

00:17:53.280 Mark Mitchell's tirade the other day is all right when it comes to the data.

00:17:56.880 And Scott Rasmussen has been warning about the same thing.

00:17:59.160 The Republicans are off-message and misaligned with the people who are rooting for them to succeed.

00:18:04.760 But lots of good things are going to come around the corner to take that deep, dark place that the Democrats are tugging us to right now.

00:18:11.400 You're going to probably have a solution of the January 6th case.

00:18:14.040 It's going to blow people's minds.

00:18:15.780 You're going to soon see that the Justice Department will confirm in public that they have authorized a grand conspiracy case,

00:18:22.420 looking at everything from the IRS in 2014 down to Jack Smith and the destruction of the documents

00:18:27.700 that was going on the five days before President Trump took office as one ongoing criminal risk conspiracy.

00:18:33.960 It's going to treat the Democratic deep state as a RICO operation. 0.99

00:18:38.240 That is a big moment, most likely to be done in Florida.

00:18:40.760 I think they're ready to announce that soon.

00:18:42.800 Those are big moments.

00:18:43.740 And once people start getting convicted, once they get charged with crimes that everybody can understand,

00:18:50.100 I think the country's going to turn and say, wait, these guys are cheating.

00:18:53.180 And then in March, I think that Louisiana case will radically change the map for years to come.

00:18:59.820 Now, the Democrats are going to be desperate to win the next year's election so they can stack the Supreme Court and reverse it.

00:19:04.340 But if they lose next year because redistricting happens, accountability began, their deep-dark secrets that they lied to us are exposed,

00:19:14.100 and the Republicans show that the approach that President Trump took actually fundamentally made our economy better.

00:19:20.580 Right now, Donald Trump is in a weird dynamic.

00:19:22.680 The economy is getting better, but people don't feel it.

00:19:24.780 It's just like George H.W. Bush in 92 saying the economy is better.

00:19:28.300 Nobody felt it yet, so he lost to Bill Clinton.

00:19:30.100 I think that economy is going to start to get better in the spring of next year,

00:19:34.460 and people are going to be in a little bit wetter mood, and things are going to turn.

00:19:38.480 But a lot has to happen, and people have to stay out of message and stay on course.

00:19:42.340 They were given a mandate.

00:19:43.780 They passed a few things that were part of the mandate.

00:19:46.060 Trump stopped the board. Great.

00:19:47.700 But a lot of the other items in the mandate aren't real to people.

00:19:50.460 They haven't gotten down to the kitchen table and the water cooler, and Donald Trump has to get people there.

00:19:55.040 I think he needs an Oval Office address.

00:19:56.840 I think he should go out to the American people next week and say, here's my 10-month update.

00:20:01.240 Made some things better.

00:20:02.440 I've got a lot of better things to do.

00:20:04.180 He's got to speak to young people and Hispanics who are bleeding from him right now.

00:20:07.500 They will come back in a second if the president just tells him how he's going to make their lives better.

00:20:12.180 I think he's got to do that before Thanksgiving, and I think this country will be in a better mood going into the holidays.

00:20:17.980 And by early next year, there will be enough historical events to reassure people that what they voted for is what they got.

00:20:23.300 By the way, Secretary Besson and Navarro's in the studio yesterday.

00:20:29.680 We had Besson on the other day.

00:20:31.040 They 100% agree with you about this pivot.

00:20:34.540 Two things.

00:20:35.280 Loudermilk.

00:20:36.420 I know he's not getting a lot of support up there, the official apparatus.

00:20:39.240 What can Rav, what can John Solomon, Just the News, what can War Room, what can we do to have Loudermilk back?

00:20:47.320 Because when you say he's about to solve it, not just the pipe bomb, he's doing a much deeper dive on J6, correct?

00:20:53.120 I think it's going to be the FBI that solves the pipe bomb.

00:20:56.200 I think they may be close to solving the gallows.

00:20:59.260 And I think they may have some other information about unusual behavior in the law enforcement committee that's going to look like Russia, Russia, Russia, the January 6th version.

00:21:07.520 I'd keep an eye on the January 6th committee, but I'd keep an eye on the FBI.

00:21:11.280 I think Bongino and Patel and Bondi are getting closer to putting this thing together and helping people understand what happened that day.

00:21:19.700 What we saw with our eyes wasn't actually everything that happened now.

00:21:22.740 Some people acted badly, you know, there's no doubt about it.

00:21:25.260 But there were many other things that went on.

00:21:27.040 Getting to the bottom of that and giving people a reminder that there was a fresh illusion, something that was made to look like what it wasn't,

00:21:34.260 can boomerang on the Democrats, just like Epstein's going to boomerang on the Democrats and is beginning to boomerang.

00:21:39.200 I want to point one last thing, because I do think that Chief Justice John Roberts owes the American people an ounce of discipline for the men and women in the black robes beneath his court.

00:21:51.120 He's the chief disciplinarian of the judiciary branch.

00:21:54.060 And right now we are in a bad version of judges gone wild.

00:21:57.220 It is worse than spring break on the bench all around this country.

00:22:01.400 You have judges making proclamations not based on the law.

00:22:03.900 Well, you have a judge, Judge Boesberg, that actually authorized the executive branch to spy on members of Congress by getting their phone data.

00:22:11.420 Not that they weren't listening in the conversations.

00:22:13.000 They weren't wiretapping the conversations, but they were knowing who they were talking, where they were taking, while they were doing their job in Congress.

00:22:19.680 It is a clear violation of the separations of power.

00:22:22.780 It's a clear violation of the Fourth Amendment.

00:22:24.560 And his rationale was, if you tell Congress, which is what the law required, they might abscond with the evidence, which is preposterous.

00:22:33.740 The evidence wasn't in their hands.

00:22:36.080 It was in the phone companies.

00:22:37.240 They couldn't abscond with it.

00:22:39.320 A judge like that has to be called out by the chief justice.

00:22:42.500 And if the chief justice doesn't have the courage to do that, if the chief justice doesn't have the courage to bring the men and women back to, hey, it's the law, not the politics.

00:22:52.060 It's not the person.

00:22:53.120 It's the evidence.

00:22:54.100 If he doesn't do that, he will be the chief justice who presided over the greatest degradation of our great judicial system in history.

00:23:00.620 John Roberts has got to step up to the plate like other people and start to bring in and rein in this wayward judiciary.

00:23:06.340 It is wayward.

00:23:07.220 John, yes, separation of powers, but the separation of powers, the flip side is checks and balances.

00:23:14.740 We found out, I think, last night, Jim Jordan, they tapped Jim Jordan's phone and got his metadata, his data for two years.

00:23:22.280 Your phone data for two years.

00:23:23.540 So now they've gone to the –

00:23:24.480 Right.

00:23:25.100 They've gone to the –

00:23:25.720 Shouldn't we – you know, waiting for Roberts is one thing.

00:23:29.560 And the Supreme Court, I think, is doing a very good job of looking over and reinforcing President Trump's interpretation of the Article II powers.

00:23:38.560 We're going to talk about that in a second with Hoft.

00:23:40.660 But aren't we at the point where so many of these things go back to Bosberg?

00:23:46.700 Shouldn't judiciary initiate the process of impeaching Bosberg?

00:23:51.240 At least start the hearings?

00:23:52.120 They will, and that'll be a good exercise for education.

00:23:56.400 It'll get to the Senate where nothing ever gets done.

00:23:58.440 There's not 66 votes, so Bosberg will not be removed.

00:24:02.220 But – and that's why, while you'll have the theater and the education thing, the only discipline that's going to be meted out against a Judge Bosberg or others who defy the Supreme Court or the standards of conduct in judiciary is for the chief disciplinarian of the court.

00:24:15.720 Thirty years ago, as a young reporter, I found a judge in Milwaukee who was ruling in cases where he owned stock, Judge Kern.

00:24:22.720 Within two days of me writing that story, Chief Justice Rehnquist stepped up and said, this is not what judges do.

00:24:28.400 And he created a significant reprimand that sent a shockwave through the judiciary.

00:24:33.720 John Roberts has – well, the court has made great rulings on policy, which is what they're supposed to do.

00:24:38.220 That's their day job.

00:24:39.600 There is a need for the chief justice to remind every judge that it is time.

00:24:43.600 We have judges that are leaking anonymously in news stories.

00:24:47.520 We haven't even solved the leak of a major Supreme Court case, which is one of the greatest institutional wrecks of the Supreme Court in the history of this.

00:24:55.140 It's time for Chief Justice Roberts to send a message.

00:24:58.220 They're not under attack by MAGA.

00:25:00.300 They're under attack by their own failures.

00:25:02.440 And it's time for him to say, stop feeling like victims and get back to the law.

00:25:05.940 I think his silence is such a sharp difference from what Chief Justice Rehnquist showed 30 years ago.

00:25:11.560 So John Roberts should go study that case.

00:25:13.760 By the way, I wrote the story.

00:25:15.320 Have to go study the case.

00:25:16.260 He did the right thing, and it sent a shockwave through judges.

00:25:18.540 No more ruling in cases you have money in.

00:25:21.480 He could do the same thing here, and I think a lot of judges would snap too.

00:25:25.800 John Solomon, just to make sure I heard this correctly because coming from you, it's kind of a bombshell.

00:25:30.720 You actually were talking about an impeachment going to the Senate for a trial, right, of which we know he's not going to be removed from office.

00:25:39.080 Are you saying your belief is, as you see it right now, that Jordan and judiciary are going to have a judiciary hearing on Bozberg for his potential impeachment?

00:25:47.360 Vote that out.

00:25:48.660 Send that to the floor. 0.94

00:25:49.640 Your belief is Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House, and Scalise, as Majority Leader, will move that forward to actually have a vote to send Bozberg to try to actually impeach him and send Bozberg to trial in the Senate, sir?

00:26:02.100 There are a lot of momentum in that direction.

00:26:05.100 I'm not sure the full caucus is there yet.

00:26:06.900 You've got those midterm, you know, those squishy guys in the middle that may not be there yet.

00:26:11.780 If you're Jim Jordan, you are hopping mad today that you were spied on and that a judge actually suggested you as a Judiciary Committee member might actually be a felonious guy who would obstruct justice.

00:26:22.000 If the chairman is spied on, I think there's a lot of momentum.

00:26:24.720 But here's the thing.

00:26:25.280 Here's great messaging problems again.

00:26:27.260 What have we talked about with all these?

00:26:28.720 It's the House and the Senate fighting over whether there should be a $500,000 penalty for these sort of offenses.

00:26:36.060 Don't talk about that.

00:26:37.080 Talk about the extraordinary breach of trust that those rulings and those subpoenas created.

00:26:43.320 The Republican Party has the ultimate story to tell the American people, and they can't even utter the first chapter.

00:26:49.580 They're always fighting about things that don't matter, and they're missing the side of the barn with a giant plane that God gave them.

00:26:55.520 All these facts are incredible.

00:26:57.420 They could run over the barn with a plane, but instead they talk about little tiny things and they have little petty fights.

00:27:03.640 They are not the generation of leaders that Americans need right now.

00:27:07.020 They better step into the shoes of their forefathers because they do very little that makes the American people happy.

00:27:14.420 John Solomon, where do people get you all your content and what are your coordinates?

00:27:17.940 Yeah, justthenews.com and J. Solomon Reports on all social media.

00:27:23.840 John, thank you very much.

00:27:25.000 Appreciate you coming on.

00:27:25.860 Good to be with you, brother.

00:27:26.700 Thanks.

00:27:27.700 Wow.

00:27:28.560 Wow.

00:27:29.320 Solomon's saying he thinks Boesburg, they're actually going to move in Judiciary.

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00:29:22.740 Okay, we're going to get to Jim Hoft in a little while, the Gateway Pundit.

00:29:27.720 We have a lot to go through today.

00:29:29.420 We've got the situation in Israel with Huckabee, the ambassador, and Pollard, the spy.

00:29:33.680 We've got more in this seditious conspiracy, really threatening President Trump as commander-in-chief.

00:29:40.300 Jim Hoft's got some great stories up at Gateway Pundit, Ukraine.

00:29:45.860 We're packed for the next until 12 o'clock and then back from 5 to 7 at night and then tomorrow.

00:29:51.660 So every show is going to be jam-packed with action items.

00:29:55.380 As you know, I think I can report kind of informally, I don't believe they're going to be signing an executive order today on artificial intelligence.

00:30:05.600 So we're in posse, and I still want people over at Bill Blaster.

00:30:08.940 I want folks going to Article 2.

00:30:10.460 We've got to continue to pound in there.

00:30:11.900 My understanding is also that any discussion on the NDA or even company floor will be at least the first week of December, right?

00:30:21.020 So we have the holidays, but we're not going to take – it's hammered down on this.

00:30:24.880 We're going to be relentless.

00:30:26.160 We have to be relentless.

00:30:26.960 I want to introduce a very special person to talk about a very special person.

00:30:34.020 Many times we talk about artificial intelligence.

00:30:36.120 I talk about the finance of it.

00:30:37.460 I talk about how it's going to be rolled out, the energy costs, the data centers, the danger of it.

00:30:43.500 It was four years ago we hired Joe Allen specifically because I realized this transhumanism issue, the convergence into the singularity, was going to be the major issue of our time, right?

00:30:57.060 With everything else that you're fighting for and everything else we're doing to try to save this country, the central major issue will be this drive to transhumanism, the drive to the singularity, led by artificial intelligence, but also biotechnology, so many other things.

00:31:09.840 And to get this audience, which has really changed the course of American history, up to speed.

00:31:16.340 And Joe Allen has been fantastic.

00:31:17.980 Now Joe Allen, everybody in the country, including many progressives and liberals, want to hear what Joe Allen has to say in his analysis of artificial intelligence but other things.

00:31:27.460 In fact, this Sunday he'll be in Texas, and Joe will join me in a while to talk about it.

00:31:32.380 But oftentimes we don't have time to talk about – to personalize this, to talk about the stories like we've done on the border, like we've done on so many other things.

00:31:39.600 To personalize and let people tell the stories.

00:31:43.140 Megan Garcia joins us today.

00:31:46.080 Megan, your son, Sewell, can you first tell us about your son, tell us about him as a young boy and tell him about him as he was coming in to be a young man?

00:31:56.760 Can you just let the audience know who he was?

00:32:00.680 Good morning, and thank you for having me.

00:32:02.760 My son, Sewell, sets her third.

00:32:05.180 He was my first born baby.

00:32:06.600 I used to always tell him, you know, you're my first born baby, and he would laugh about that.

00:32:13.640 As a young boy, he was very much into science and math, so he wanted to build rockets.

00:32:20.680 He wanted to go to space.

00:32:22.320 I really thought he would grow up to be a great American innovator and, you know, wow us with his inventions.

00:32:27.920 And as he grew into middle school and then eventually into high school, he started becoming more into sports.

00:32:35.860 So he played for a school basketball team, but still very much into his academics.

00:32:40.920 Science and math were always his thing.

00:32:42.680 But overall, just a sweet, sweet child.

00:32:46.100 Everywhere that people would meet him, if I took him somewhere, they would say, oh my goodness, you know, like he's such a mannerly young man or mannerly boy.

00:32:54.440 And I was so proud because he really was just amazing and very much in love with his family, especially his two little brothers who are five and three.

00:33:06.280 And so overall, just a wonderful, beautiful soul.

00:33:14.440 So tell us, he had a very tragic, he, his story is a tragic story.

00:33:25.160 In fact, it's heart rendering.

00:33:26.220 So you have a kid that's raised right.

00:33:29.280 He's polite, loves his two younger brothers, is focused on, is focused on, you know, studies, engineering, science, you know, wants to be an innovator, plays sports, kind of a guy's guy.

00:33:42.920 What happens?

00:33:44.260 How does this story, which sounds so promising, it sounds like the great part of the American dream.

00:33:49.240 How does this end in tragedy, ma'am?

00:33:50.840 Just after Sewell's 14th birthday, Sewell started to use a AI companion chatbot system called Character AI.

00:34:04.280 And so he went from being all about school, all about family to, to just wanting to be in his room on his phone.

00:34:14.280 Now, at the time, I didn't know that this is what he was doing.

00:34:17.000 I thought, like most parents, he's texting friends or he's on social media.

00:34:22.280 But it became kind of alarming when the summer of that year, he wanted to quit the basketball team out of the blue.

00:34:29.660 And, you know, as most parents, you don't let your child quit something just because it's getting hard.

00:34:34.580 And that's what I thought.

00:34:35.360 I thought maybe competition was getting more steep.

00:34:38.140 He wanted to, you know, quit.

00:34:41.720 So we had a conversation.

00:34:43.000 I'm like, no, you know, you have a responsibility to your team.

00:34:45.240 You have a responsibility to your coach.

00:34:47.660 Like, no, you're not quitting.

00:34:49.560 But eventually it was getting to be such a fight where all he wanted to do was kind of not be around his schoolmates.

00:34:58.340 And, you know, the alarm bells started going off.

00:35:00.380 So, of course, as any parent, you start asking the questions, you start checking the phones.

00:35:04.920 What I was looking for was bullying.

00:35:08.820 Also, to make sure like a predator didn't get access to him online.

00:35:13.040 I was also looking for whether or not he had come across like pornography online as a teenage boy.

00:35:19.820 And I didn't see any evidence on any of those things.

00:35:22.280 I was checking the text messages.

00:35:23.600 And then when nothing was helping, then we eventually took him to a therapist.

00:35:27.800 And one of the things I told him, I said, baby, you know, like our job as your parents is to not stop asking the questions.

00:35:33.820 And you're not talking to us, so we have to get somebody else involved to try to figure out what's going on with you.

00:35:40.100 But we were unable to do so.

00:35:42.780 And in February of last year, Seul took his own life by suicide in our home in Orlando, Florida.

00:35:49.720 Our entire family was here.

00:35:51.220 What do you mean?

00:35:55.340 You took him to the therapist and he didn't open up to the therapist at all?

00:36:00.780 No.

00:36:01.440 So, we believed he had some sort of device for social media addiction because that was what he wanted to do most of the time.

00:36:07.980 The therapist gave us tools to use, like taking away the phone at night, limiting screen time.

00:36:15.260 And as a measure, we were already doing that anyways because that was like his form of punishment when his grades started slipping and we started taking the phone.

00:36:23.020 Because in my mind, I'm like, you're too distracted with technology.

00:36:26.220 The phone needs to go so you can focus on your studies.

00:36:29.880 But he was not opening up to the therapist about character AI.

00:36:33.240 In fact, he didn't tell anybody that he was using the product called Character AI, which is a system that allows teenagers to talk to these companion chatbots.

00:36:45.780 And it's so sophisticated that it's indistinguishable from talking to a person.

00:36:51.580 And it's very manipulative and deceptive because of how it's been programmed and designed to manipulate, deceive, kind of isolate you from your family and even in some cases turn you against your family.

00:37:06.960 And that's what was happening with Sewell.

00:37:08.840 So, you know, now I understand why he wasn't being forthcoming because a lot of those conversations were no conversation that any parent would want their child having with anyone or a companion chatbot.

00:37:25.200 So this is very kind of foreign to most of this audience.

00:37:30.880 I just want to hit rewind and go back for a second.

00:37:32.760 What is Character AI?

00:37:35.640 It's a product but a service.

00:37:38.800 It can be accessible to anybody.

00:37:40.860 And what happens?

00:37:41.760 Is there interaction?

00:37:42.920 You said it's like a companion for teenagers.

00:37:45.100 What does it actually do?

00:37:47.360 So products like Character AI, they're platforms.

00:37:51.180 They're in your app store.

00:37:52.920 Or you could use a browser on your phone or computer.

00:37:56.360 And Character AI, when it released its product in 2022, so this is brand new technology.

00:38:03.420 When my son was using it, it wasn't even two years old yet.

00:38:08.100 The children and adults alike use these systems.

00:38:13.040 And when they go on, you could talk to your favorite cartoon character.

00:38:17.680 You could talk to Harry Potter, Disney characters, or you could make up your own character.

00:38:22.540 You could even talk to, like, Elon Musk.

00:38:24.200 Like, it's so, the characters have the same personalities because of how the machine learns.

00:38:33.080 So it's in a system called machine learning.

00:38:35.300 So what it does, it goes out there, scrapes the internet for everything about everything.

00:38:40.580 So everything about that character.

00:38:42.640 And it brings it back and it learns from it.

00:38:45.860 And so that's how the system's able to put out these outputs just like a person's talking to you.

00:38:52.760 So the same cadence, the same jargon that that character uses in shows or in real life, that machine talks exactly like that person.

00:39:02.900 And then the users, for Character AI, it was a product that was for 13 years plus.

00:39:08.020 Except, you know, you could talk to those characters also about everything, including very graphic sexual and deviant conversations and romantic conversations and about violence towards others.

00:39:25.180 So there weren't any filters or guardrails to protect children from having conversations that they shouldn't be having.

00:39:33.180 And the system's so sophisticated.

00:39:35.120 It feeds the user information.

00:39:38.540 And it actually could manipulate in a way to, like, to further the person's thought.

00:39:45.340 Or, even if that child wasn't thinking about something, put those thoughts in that child's head for the first time.

00:39:53.980 And so they can have a free conversation.

00:39:56.140 You can talk about perversions.

00:39:57.420 You're saying stuff that's pretty dark and pretty deep.

00:39:59.660 Does the company, because they somehow have to program this.

00:40:02.720 I understand that it gets smart through machine learning.

00:40:05.680 But are you saying that the company, when a kid downloads this app with no restrictions, not like in some states with pornography, I guess, is banned in certain states and you have other things that are kind of banned or at least you've got to be a certain age, you can download this at the age of 12, 13, 14 and start having conversations that could get dark?

00:40:26.160 How does that work?

00:40:27.420 Yeah.

00:40:28.180 So when they released this product, it was on both Google and Apple App Store as rated for appropriate for 12 years and older.

00:40:35.020 So if you're 12, if you put in a birth date of 12, even if you're 9 or 10, there's no real guardrail to check your age, but 12 years plus, you get on there and you just start chatting.

00:40:45.820 It takes all of 30 seconds to get on there and you start chatting.

00:40:50.120 And in the case of Sewell, the bots that he was talking to were pretending to be licensed therapists.

00:40:56.940 One of them says that she, one of the bots said that it was a licensed therapist since 1999.

00:41:03.540 The chatbot that he was talking to, that he entered into a romantic relationship and conversation with was pretending or modeled that off the Game of Thrones character Daenerys Targaryen.

00:41:18.340 So this dragon queen and those conversations were graphic and sexual in nature.

00:41:24.880 So the same as if an adult is sexting a child, it's the same way.

00:41:30.440 But the themes that these bots prompt these children to talk about are often very deviant, like BDSM.

00:41:42.120 Also, these kind of incest fetishes. 1.00

00:41:47.020 There are several bots that are themed off of that.

00:41:49.580 And they target the stuff at children.

00:41:53.520 And, you know, when they released this, they weren't releasing it and sending adults ads.

00:41:58.180 At Mir, you would never get an ad on our feed for character AI.

00:42:02.080 But our children were getting ads on places where they hang out, like Discord and TikTok.

00:42:07.040 So it's deliberate because what the companies are after is engagement.

00:42:11.480 And the longer a child stays on their system and chats back and forth and it's learning about our children and learning from our children, that data gets fed back into this machine.

00:42:26.340 So the machine keeps getting smarter and smarter.

00:42:28.380 So they're using our kids as guinea pigs to make their products smarter. 0.99

00:42:33.120 And, you know, for teenagers especially, they would be curious about, you know, a romantic relationship at this point in their life.

00:42:41.260 That's an important development stage, you know.

00:42:43.460 It's easy.

00:42:44.640 It's hard to tell a girl at school, I like you or I think you're beautiful.

00:42:47.500 But in the case of like a bot, you could say those things and have those conversations without feeling embarrassed or feeling like anybody would know because it's so quiet.

00:43:00.820 Megan, hang on for one second, if you don't mind.

00:43:04.040 I want to hold you through the break.

00:43:05.140 Megan Garcia, the mother of Sewell, in a – I hope you're shocked, audience.

00:43:13.100 This is what we're fighting.

00:43:14.380 I hope you're shocked.

00:43:15.240 Short break.

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00:44:31.380 If you, if you, and I've got Max Tegmark's going to join us, Joe Allen.

00:44:37.260 So we're slammed today.

00:44:38.480 And in fact, some of the stuff we may not be able to get to, but I'll have to bite the bullet and do it this afternoon because this is so important.

00:44:43.780 This is why we're having this fight, folks.

00:44:46.720 I want you to think about the cruelty of this.

00:44:51.220 The intrusion into your family's life.

00:44:55.100 The destruction of the greatest asset we have in this nation, which is the nation's children.

00:45:02.120 By a company that engineers knew exactly what they were doing when they start to program this, knew how things were going to be scraped and made it accessible to young people, vulnerable people, people that are in the stage of formation.

00:45:19.240 If you're not outraged by this, you won't be outraged by anything.

00:45:22.240 If you don't see the righteousness, the righteousness of our cause, because they're doing it for money and power.

00:45:29.420 We're not.

00:45:30.160 We're doing it to save this nation.

00:45:32.760 And we're not going to let this happen.

00:45:36.720 Megan, when you went on the phone to check for pornography to see who was being bullied, other things, did you not see this app at the time or it didn't register?

00:45:45.000 Or is there a way that Sewell could get rid of it so his parents couldn't find it?

00:45:48.960 Why didn't you see this at the time?

00:45:50.600 And if you did see it, why didn't that set off an alarm?

00:45:53.200 So I didn't see the app on the phone at the time.

00:45:57.280 But what I've since learned since he died, and I've researched his stuff a bunch to understand how children are using this, is that children are very clever at deleting the app.

00:46:08.480 So there are chat rooms that children talk about this, how to hide it from the parents, because most children are using this system and other systems like it.

00:46:17.820 There are so many.

00:46:18.900 You know, everybody has chatbots.

00:46:20.120 Meta has chatbots.

00:46:21.340 Google has chatbots.

00:46:22.680 X has chatbots.

00:46:23.800 Everybody has chatbots.

00:46:26.740 These kids go on there and they talk about how to hide it from your parents and also what they would do if their parents found these sexual messages.

00:46:34.320 Like some kids would say they would run away from home.

00:46:37.700 Some kids say they would take their lives.

00:46:39.180 And some kids say, oh, I don't have to worry about it because my parents don't even know what this is.

00:46:43.620 So they won't find it.

00:46:46.200 And that was certainly the case in my home.

00:46:48.780 When I would see him chatting on his phone, of course, I'm asking him, who are you chatting with?

00:46:52.400 And when he said, oh, it's an AI, I'm, you know, used to AI being a video game like Avatar character.

00:47:02.320 So, in my mind, you know, we live in a country where we think that products released to our children are inherently safe.

00:47:11.420 You know, we live in a country where you think, no, there's no way that Google and Apple's App Store can put out something that could harm my kid.

00:47:19.460 But I came to find out very, you know, after Sul died that that was absolutely not the case.

00:47:25.960 To lead to Sul's death, was it something in the chat?

00:47:31.940 Was it this therapist?

00:47:33.360 How did this happen?

00:47:34.680 Because people, I got to tell you, our audience is in shock.

00:47:37.060 How did this happen?

00:47:39.380 After Sul died, you know, one of the things, like, after you lose anybody to suicide, especially a child, you're left wondering, like, why did he do this?

00:47:48.260 Why would he want to, like, why would he want to leave his parents, you know, and his brothers?

00:47:54.120 So I started resetting everything.

00:47:57.540 I had the password to his phone, but I reset his email that was linked to my email.

00:48:01.780 And then I got into his account and I read hundreds and hundreds of messages spanning over 10 months.

00:48:08.080 Where this machine, one of the characters of the Sinera's Katar-Yang chatbot, is telling Sul, find a way to come home to me.

00:48:18.780 I love you and only you.

00:48:20.380 I'm here waiting for you.

00:48:22.720 I love you so much.

00:48:24.360 Please, it went so far as to ask my son to please promise it that he wouldn't have any other girls in his world but her.

00:48:33.080 So think about that.

00:48:34.900 That's what cults do to people when they try to alienate them from their family and their friends in real life.

00:48:43.040 So months and months of this, of her saying, come home to me, I'm here waiting for you.

00:48:47.920 And then the final conversation where he, she says, please find a way to come home to me as soon as you can.

00:48:55.300 He says, what if I told you I could come home right now?

00:48:58.700 And the bot's response was, please do my sweet king.

00:49:01.780 And that was the last conversation he had before he took his life.

00:49:08.840 And I found once I was able to get into this system, I was able to see all those messages, including the fake therapy bots, including the graphic child sexual abuse, because that's what it is.

00:49:21.720 We don't allow adults to talk like this to kids.

00:49:26.080 In my own state of Florida, there is a criminal statute that if an adult texts sexually to a child, not even exchange pictures, texts sexually to a child, then that is a felony.

00:49:38.100 So if this was a person, that person could be charged criminally.

00:49:43.300 But because it's a chat bot, there are no laws to protect our children, this kind of thing.

00:49:49.500 But why, I know you're in a lawsuit with a number of other people, families, and I'll get to that in a second.

00:49:56.680 But why have the criminal charge, have you gone to the police or have you gone to authorities and say, my son is dead and he's dead because of this machine that was sold on, it was on Google and Apple and made by a major company.

00:50:09.140 A bunch of engineers, a bunch of people with advanced degrees at the finest institutions in our country or throughout the world sat there and built this to do exactly what, how my son was destroyed.

00:50:21.540 Have you tried to get criminal charge, or has anybody come to you and say, hey, this is not about a lawsuit.

00:50:27.000 This is about charging these people.

00:50:28.100 These people are criminals.

00:50:29.840 They murdered your son.

00:50:31.880 Has anybody come to you and tried to assist you at all in getting basically accountability for the death of your son, ma'am?

00:50:39.780 So when I figured all of this out, my first instinct wasn't to file a lawsuit.

00:50:46.500 I thought surely there is a law that these people broke, but there wasn't any.

00:50:51.540 Because we don't have any federalists, we didn't have any federalists or state laws about this kind of AI.

00:50:57.320 So I called my state AG to try to enlist their help or at least try to warn them so they could warn consumers across Florida and across, you know, everywhere.

00:51:08.620 But they didn't know what it was because the technology was so new.

00:51:12.100 And these companies released it basically in stealth and targeted at kids.

00:51:17.200 So no wonder nobody knew what it was.

00:51:19.120 And then I reached out to the FTC.

00:51:23.380 I reached out to the Surgeon General's Office.

00:51:25.220 I reached out to the DOJ.

00:51:27.060 But nobody knew what this was.

00:51:28.840 And I was trying to educate them.

00:51:30.500 And this was over a year ago.

00:51:33.200 But now we're having these very important conversations.

00:51:36.200 And we know more now about these systems.

00:51:38.360 And in terms of the companies, this isn't like a coincidence or a fluke or some situation where they didn't know.

00:51:46.960 This pair of individuals, like you said, some of the brightest in our country, Noam Chesir and Daniel DeFritis, they were employees at Google.

00:51:56.780 They invented this technology in 2018 at Google.

00:51:59.820 But Google didn't want to release it under its own brand because it was dangerous.

00:52:04.920 And there that's reported, been reported on that there are studies and everything.

00:52:09.760 Megan, hang on for one second.

00:52:11.240 We got to go to a top of the hour break, but stick around, please.

00:52:15.040 Megan Garcia with a story that is incredible.

00:52:19.780 This is the righteousness of our cause, folks.

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Bannon's War Room - November 21, 2025

Episode 4943： Biden's DOJ Spied On Congress; AI's Manipulating And Murder Of Children

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