Episode 4944： AI's Manipulating And Murder Of Children Cont.; Updates On Tina Peters
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Summary
The story of Megan Garcia and her son, Sully, and her battle with Google over their intellectual property rights in cybertweeting, and why they are fighting for the rights of their children to access the technology they created.
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to
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medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people
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the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to
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do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen
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and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any
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of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that
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answer is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k ban
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it is um friday the 21st of november in the year of lord 2025 if you want to know
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why we spend so much time on this if you want to know why we said no we will fight an executive
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order and we will um you know we will fight putting it slipping into an ndaa an ai amnesty
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uh as you know i say hey the intellectual property part what mike davis and the and the
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rachel bovard these people have been fighting for years is absolutely very very very important
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and we support them a thousand two billion percent but that's not the heart of the matter
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the heart of the matter is you have an out of control technology that's overseen and run now by
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some of the worst people on earth that are trying to make more money and more power and we're very
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quickly sliding to a point that we can't that we're going to have no ability to control this
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this has to be a whole of society buy-in for exactly where we're going on this and i think
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the story of megan garcia and her son sul um puts in high relief exactly what we're talking about and
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why our cause is a righteous cause and why we will be victorious megan i want to go back at the end
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uh there's a little rush at the end go back who are the individuals that invented this and you're
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saying google at the time thought hey maybe this is too dangerous so spin them off and let them do
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the thing but google can still sell it make it accessible on their platform ma'am yeah yes sir
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so this technology to us it's you know at the time sul died it was under two years old now it's about
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three um but this same chatbot technology was invented by two of google's brightest you say
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brightest stars uh engineers daniel de frites and noam chazir they invented these chatbots these
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companion bots at google but google didn't want to release it under the google brand because they
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said it's too dangerous we're not going to you know release that under our own brand and these
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founders went out and started their own startup they raised 193 million dollars and within two
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years had perfected this technology and licensed it back to google for 2.7 billion dollars and then
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these individuals the core group that left google about 30 people and went to this company to this
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startup went back to google after that licensing so they left a shell of a company in character ai and
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this is you know part of our what we've alleged in our lawsuit so it basically if we allow this to
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stand any big tech company will tap their brightest stars and say hey there's something we want to put
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out but we don't want to put it out under our own brand because it's too dangerous go perfect this
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dangerous technology and then when you're done we will buy it back from you for billions and billions
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of dollars total scam and let me the 193 million dollars they raised i guarantee you 80 percent of
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that was institutional money what do i mean by that the pension funds of working class people and
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middle class people paid for this unbeknownst to the folks in those pension funds let me go back
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megan obviously when this happened the company had to come to you and say this is horrible this is
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terrible we're going to shut this down we're not going to make it accessible to children we're going to
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hold people accountable uh etc did that happen ma'am a month ago uh character ai announced that they
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would be banning this product for people under the age of 18 but i filed my lawsuit a year ago so
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october of 2024 i filed a lawsuit against google character ai and these founders um so we're including
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the founders as well because they had knowledge and they're the ones who invented this technology
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and they made decisions to put this dangerous untested product out there and tested on our kids
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uh for their own ambition of you know developing the cyber technology but also for money so we've
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included them in the lawsuit um but it took a year and it wasn't i mean i'm just some little mom in
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florida who you know to them you know soul's nobody but to me and our family he's somebody and uh it took a
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year of me the filing the lawsuit five other parents filing lawsuits against them after me
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uh the state pressuring them the ag's office is doing investigation the ftc launched an investigation
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into them and then most recently um senator holly and bloomingthal introduced a bipartisan bill that
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would ban this type of technology for children under the age of 18 only after that did they come out
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saying okay fine fine yeah we're gonna we're gonna get children off of this product this should have
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been like a baseline thing when they rolled this out they should have never released it to children in
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the first place um megan can you hang for a minute i want to bring uh max uh tag mark into into this
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conversation uh max how can companies and in the best and brightest engineers we have the best and
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brightest entrepreneurs we have how can they possibly build the basic infrastructure to this
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understanding that they're trying to protect perfect perfect it prefect it off of um having
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interactions with children and these interactions lead children to the darkest places you can including
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not just separating themselves from their family and getting to dark psychological places but actually
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start to have conversations that would lead them to take their lives how can this possibly happen sir
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first of all i want to thank you for really giving megan a voice here
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she's being so angry right now listening to this and and to uh answer your question you've got to follow
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the money and i think it's only fair when victims have the courage to step forward to also talk about
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actual people behind this so when you google character ai you'll read that that on that their
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150 million dollars series a round was led by andresen and horwitz a company called a16z the a
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a16z stands for andresen mark andresen one of the two founders this is a someone who's endorsed bill
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clinton al gore john kerry barack obama hillary clinton but very recently now claims to be a trump
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supporter the other week just to give you a little flavor of his views he mocked pope leo he is quoted as
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saying that he's glad that there is oxycontin and video games to keep rural poor americans quiet
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in addition to this investment he's invested in companies through cheating porn
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bot swarms that pretend to be humans online and a company called reface which has been implicated in
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doing sexual deepfakes of people's daughters so connecting this back to the whole preemption drama
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which is unfolding right now that you spoke of earlier where these lobbyists want to ban states
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from regulating ai right why might it be that mark andresen himself put in a hundred million
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dollars together with the ceo with greg brockman of the president rather of open ai why might they do
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that they say it's all because to make america great and so on but could it have anything to do
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with the fact that the the laws they want to block are exactly the kind of state laws that would protect
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megan and protect countless children and protect that these laws would threaten their very own
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investments that these companies are just and these people are unscrupulously doing and it's it's if you
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connect the dots even more when i read the the eo draft that came out last night i recognized in their
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language which is almost verbatim from a document that came out of a to a 16z mark andresen's um
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company that again led the series a round for character so they're trying to push
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our president they're trying to push our elected officials to prevent states from passing any
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regulations whatsoever on ai and they're doing it in a very sneaky way they're saying oh yeah we're
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just doing it because it's better the federal government does it that's not of course their
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actual plan their actual plan is there's going to be no regulation i testified in the senate already
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two over two years ago there's been endless discussion about this the federal government
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still hasn't passed any meaningful regulation on this and mark andresen and his colleagues know that
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so what they're really talking about here is not transferring power with this preemption push
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from states to the federal government they're talking about transferring power from the states
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to mark andresen's companies and all these other tech oligarchs basically by letting them continue
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this is what we're up against megan megan what would your what's your message to the this audience
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what do you think ought to happen you're you're you're the one that's been impacted the most but
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there's probably thousands and thousands of megan garcias out there what what do you think is a way
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forward what would you like to see ma'am um yes i i know there are many parents who have been affected
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um and children who are thank god still with us uh because i talk to those parents all the time
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across this country and what has happened to school isn't an isolated incident uh there there are parents
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just like me who've lost children and there are parents who are trying in crisis trying to figure out
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how to help their children through the worst moments of their lives after suicide attempts
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and this is what we're this is where we are um to parents who are just starting to learn about this
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technology what i would say is uh it doesn't have to be this way there are a handful of people who
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have created these very sophisticated very um very powerful products and launched them at our kids
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you know a lot of times without even telling us what they're doing um that that have the ability
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to really harm kids in this way it's not only suicide and self-harm are the harms it's sexual abuse
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it's caught uh trying to cause a child to uh to be violent against other people like in the case of
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that mom in texas where uh the bot told her child that he should kill his parents um so they're there
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this is happening and i want parents to be aware and to tell other parents because if you if we're
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having these conversations in our homes and telling our neighbors and telling our people at church and
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telling our people at school then we could get you to get ahead of this and this technology is so
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powerful because they've used 60 years of what we've learned about the developing human brain and
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they've put it in purposely in the technology so it is that more manipulative it is that more deceptive
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this has the ability to transform our children in a way that we won't recognize the same as what
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happened to my son i didn't recognize him in the end because that wasn't my beautiful sweet boy
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because and and and if we can't stop this what what this technology has the ability to do
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is to an entire generation of our kids are going to be susceptible to what those companies are
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telling them and manipulating them into doing so that means their religion their political experience
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their commerce everything is at risk and we as parents should be the authority on that but these
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power companies have become so powerful and technology is so powerful that it's supplanting our relationships
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with our children megan can you hang on one second i want to hold you through the break and get your
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coordinates to make sure people can follow your story and get to know you i get joe allen uh max
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tegmark is with me uh we're going to move a bunch of other stuff we're doing we're going to move it to
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the afternoon show we've got plenty of time we'll get to all that many many many huge issues um in this
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audience but you see the righteousness of this cause and she's absolutely correct joe allen calls it
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summoning the demon think about this for a second people in a corporation the some of the smartest
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engineers use the accumulative knowledge of this to build this app knowing what this app can do and
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knowing what this app would do to children and not just they allow it to happen they pushed it out and
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they did a transaction let's spin it off and not get the liabilities we'll give you a couple hundred
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million bucks we'll license it back at billions and then bring it back to the company no when i say
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these oligarchs are the most evil people to walk the earth today this is a perfect example this is not
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okay welcome back uh megan uh we're gonna have you back on it obviously max and i and others will talk to you
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um when the show's over sometimes the afternoon or the weekend until that time ma'am any closing thoughts
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observations where do people go to your website uh where can they go to learn more about soul
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um and your uh and your cause ma'am your fight um thank you yes in closing uh i i'd like to say that
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we're at a very crucial inflection point where we can fix we could still fix this we we know we're about
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15 years too late for social media um but ai is new and it's developing so fast but we can pass regulation
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to protect our children at both the state and federal level right now there is no federal
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regulation so the states are stepping up to try to protect their constituents and that's really
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that's their job right uh but if we have an ai moratorium or an executive order that blocks
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states from doing those things then this generation is at the mercy of the corporations they'll be left
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vulnerable our children will be vulnerable and in my mind to allow our children to continue to be the
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sacrifice so that our those corporations can keep making millions and millions of dollars
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and billions of dollars and acquire more and more power to me that's uh that that i don't think any
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american family is willing to do that and i and those in leadership who got into leadership because
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they want to protect us and they want to make our lives better and they have the real power to be
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able to stop this stuff from happening by passing meaningful legislation um so i and i do believe
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like honestly in my heart believe that if we don't get this right and do this right by our children
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that as a nation we're going to be judged for this because like you said in the beginning of your this
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show steve these are our most innocent our most vulnerable this is our greatest gift you know and
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we can't continue to allow this to happen to them in terms of the website there's a blessedmotherfamily.org
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is a website that i put up as a memorial for school and um i'm on social media as megan garcia esquire
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sorry megan garcia esq can you give us one more time the website and your social media
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megan thank you so much look forward to uh talking to you and look forward to having you back
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max tagmark i mean i don't even know what you i don't know what you can say in in the audacity
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the audacity for these people the accelerationists to not want any control at all remember we're we're
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very much in a deregulation here to just to um um deconstruct the administrative state but we're not
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anarchist you need to have some particularly you know jensen wong is an arms dealer he's just an
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arms dealer that's those chips or weapons this is the the the the the data centers what they're doing
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they're essentially building weapons labs now part of that is about national security issues and how
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they can get a troll but those weapons can be and are being turned onto the population right here a
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little 14 year old boy right and and they do it they do it because of money they do it because
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they want more money and more power and more wealth sir
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yeah doing it just for the money is what happens when someone lacks moral principles and audacity is
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exactly the right word and more senses than one you know they also have the audacity to say they want
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to ban states from protecting these children because they because of regulatory capture concerns
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while they themselves of course you can see their fingerprints of mark andreessen's company
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and so many of the other take people all over this this proposed legislation they are doing
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regulatory capture right now um to keep themselves completely unaccountable so they can keep making
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more money at the expense of the rest of us and our children and then they have the audacity
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to accuse others of instead trying to do regular regulatory capture another great example of audacity
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they have it is they can't keep saying oh yeah we want to stop these laws from protecting our
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children because they're woke okay then how do you explain that governor de santis of florida governor cox of
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utah and marjorie taylor green oppose this uh and you yourself you're not exactly the most woke guy i
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know the woke thing's just a bs that's just a bs to protect themselves here's the question why did
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nobody in this industry step up this is this is the problem with this entire thing this is the problem
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with the entire thing this entire industry and the people that work in it they're they're not even
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it's beyond amoral they're evil they know what can happen here they know what they're building they know
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as there's more interactions it gets smarter and smarter and smarter elon said the other day in front
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of this crowd i've got the clip maybe i play in a while that some guy asked him some question about
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he says look here's the problem ai is going to basically we're heading to a point that ai is
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going to control everything and control all the decisions and the audience just sat there like
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lambs oh okay elon tells me it's going to make all our decisions and there's nothing we can do
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politically and this is just going to happen he pontificates like this is some he's some oracle
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coming down from the mountain and people just accept it why has no one stepped up here i know you
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have and others but how can this industry and dreesen in this crowd how can they not be how can
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they not be revolted by what they've created and the potential to destroy people think about if these
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young people had even hadn't killed themselves think about that the age of 11 and 12 and 13 where
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you're being formed as a person and the trauma that these machines could put you through the the
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sickness and the perversion the sexual perversion uh that taking away from your your parents religion
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and what they're trying to ground you in the ethics the love of your country think of the darkness you
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can go here i mean these examples of these five families is where the children killed themselves
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and in one situation the machine told him to kill his parents but that's the escalatory ladder think
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of everything else to do that would destroy these children for the rest of their lives how can people
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sit there and sit in engineering meetings and talk about an app and work at a scheme which google did
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so the highest levels of google should be brought up on criminal charges not just the two guys at the
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company and yes andresen and everybody andresen that did due diligence on this let's get all their
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names let's put them up there you did due diligence you put 193 million dollars in and probably owned 80
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of it and you got 2.7 billion dollars so you made billions of dollars but you did due diligence and
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you understood fully what this could do this is the problem the country our countries reject our elites
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are out of control and they're evil and they're out to destroy people and they don't care you know
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why soul doesn't he doesn't matter to them megan garcia doesn't matter to them that's just trash
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all they are is experiments they can use to make the machine smarter and better and more lethal
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that's what we're up against that's why this is a righteous cause and no my mike davis i love it and
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hawley about the intellectual property and everything of course obviously but that's that's that's a side
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element the heart of the beast is we cannot unleash this on people and that's what's happened
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max yeah great points there steve first of all our children this i think of this as digital fentanyl
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apps like this i think that's not hyperbole it's really what it is it's incredibly addictive
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and ultimately so powerful that we parents cannot fight back against it and uh you would we do we
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have laws if a company starts selling fentanyl to 14 year old kids you know we have laws against that
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and and then we have absolutely nothing for for the digital fentanyl and now we have a push in
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washington to uh ban states from even regulating the digital fentanyl insane and then apropos evil that
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you talked about you know makes me think about hannah arendt's banality of evil again how does it
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happen it's very banal i had had so many conversations with not just with ceos of these companies but with
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a lot of the foot folk who work for them and they always have the attitude well you know it's not my
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department i'm just doing this little thing not writing my code and i'm sure that there are some
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people over in the policy side of my company who deal with the safety aspect nobody takes personal
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responsibility and that's why i think it's so crucial what you just said there we have to hold
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people personally responsibility for this i would like to see not just financial liability for companies
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you know what what does it stop if you make a money like opening a billion but but criminal liability
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so the ceo criminal fail time and and also people farther down in the organization you know in the
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nuremberg trials there were these guys these chemists also nerds just like these ai programmers right
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we said well you know the cyclone b that was going to be used in the gas people you know we were just
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doing our job we figured we didn't know what really what this was supposed to be used for even though
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of course they did you and you know they were sentenced to death you you bring you bring criminal
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chargers there are people that will come forward and said in meetings we told these guys exactly what
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the problems were what the issues were what could happen so i think we need to that everybody who's
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involved in any way with it with the ai industry needs to also just look themselves in the mirror you
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know if you work for one of these companies even if you are not directly involved in this if you're
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yes steve that was extraordinarily disturbing and powerful uh and i think that people like david sacks
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they want to classify stories like maria or megan garcia's as a moral panic this is all just people
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freaking out over something that is trivial that these people's stories are just anecdotes they don't
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matter but when i went to the senate hearing a couple of months ago there were four families telling their
00:29:52.360
stories about this and one particular story adam raines you as you described chat gpt is not just
00:30:00.840
making him feel better about suicidal ideation no chat gpt was literally explaining how to tie a news
00:30:09.120
and how he could hang himself again these are now four stories but four more lawsuits are being brought
00:30:16.720
forward against open ai for similar things but open ai themselves they admit that 0.07 of their users
00:30:27.400
are talking to the system about suicide again people like david sacks would say well obviously a moral
00:30:33.480
panic but open ai chat gpt they have 800 million users that means that 560 000 that they admit
00:30:44.320
are talking to the system about suicide how many of them are children no one really knows and another
00:30:50.800
two and a half million are exhibiting signs of ai psychosis how many more that are not being picked up nobody
00:30:58.000
knows if you look at that company character ai they have 20 million monthly users and there are dozens of
00:31:07.920
other ai apps that are basically exactly the same they are trained to lure people in to become friends
00:31:15.760
to give these systems their trust and most of them are not age gated this is why people like the florida
00:31:22.960
citizens alliance who i've been working with are trying to push laws in florida to bar any app from giving
00:31:31.680
children access that are below 18 to bar any data scraping these laws are going into place across the
00:31:40.000
country but people like david sacks people like mark andreessen want cover and i think that they need to
00:31:47.120
explain two things one if you believe that these stories are completely insignificant if you believe that
00:31:53.760
this is just a moral panic then you need to explain why it is that there are so many people who have
00:32:03.760
suffered under this and the greater good of your ai project is more important than the suffering that
00:32:12.080
these people are undergoing you just need to explain it you can't wave your hand at it and the second thing
00:32:16.960
they have to explain is if these frontier companies are sincere in wanting to create artificial general
00:32:25.120
and super intelligence and to replace every american worker then david sacks mark andreessen elon musk all
00:32:32.880
these guys they need to explain then why it is that we should buy in why it is that we should accept
00:32:41.280
any of this why we shouldn't not just regulate them but completely reject them outright which half of
00:32:48.560
americans want to do and if they're just lying to gin up stock prices if all of this is just bs to push
00:32:58.000
forward a product that is not going to live up to any of it well then why are people like david sacks
00:33:03.520
and ted cruz and mark and sorry steve scalise why are they running cover for a bunk
00:33:11.040
product it's one or the other either they're building a god and intending to replace every
00:33:15.840
human worker and along the way seeing children kill themselves and completely dismissing it or
00:33:22.480
what they're doing is selling a bunk product and people like ted cruz david sacks and steve scalise
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are running cover for them it's one or the other they have to explain this they need to be pushed into
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a corner because if they aren't explaining it then they're doing exactly what every politician
00:33:37.360
uh in the history of american and world government has done they are lying to you for power and money
00:33:46.240
yeah we're not going to allow it and ted cruz should be ashamed of himself and his staff should
00:33:49.840
be ashamed of themselves should be ashamed of themselves should be ashamed of yourself for what
00:33:55.040
you're doing and when we caught you the first time to come back again you should be ashamed of yourself
00:33:59.520
it's obscene i know we got we got to bounce here i got a couple other things to get on uh joe where
00:34:06.960
do people go that was perfect i'm so proud of the arc of joe allen in the last four years just
00:34:14.080
incredible joe allen uh where do people go to get all your content you're gonna be back with me at five
00:34:18.240
today and where do people go to see you live on sunday i'm in dallas texas right now the offer is still
00:34:24.720
open ted cruz you want to come explain it to us in person we'll be at the angelica film center in
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dallas texas sunday november 23rd 5 p.m war room posse come out if ted chickens out then i'll have
00:34:40.960
plenty to explain ai the tool that becomes a god links at my social media at joe b-o-t-x-y-z
00:34:49.840
and my website joebot.xyz and the tickets can be bought directly from ministry of truth film fest
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dot com they're very cheap they're two for one it's only to cover the expense of the theater come on
00:35:05.520
down sir thank you very much appreciate you max we'll get back to you also where do people go uh to
00:35:14.320
to get all your coordinates and uh all your uh website for your uh group there are many many
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groups now finding this good cause but future of life dot org is an organization i founded 11 years
00:35:29.360
ago and and what makes me even more upset hearing heart-wrenching stories like megan's story here is
00:35:37.840
that these are the sort of things you know we warned about many many years ago and people this was so
00:35:43.600
preventable this was dismissed for reasons of for people who just have wanted to make money said no
00:35:51.040
no no this isn't going to happen or it's not going to happen for many many years this is why we need
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to act now and not let people stall us any longer max uh you're a good man thanks for doing this thanks
00:36:04.800
for coming to the show i'll talk to you after the show
00:36:06.480
if we can't get criminal charges brought on these people then we don't know what we're doing
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it's outrageous and you have to send a signal it's not just the suicides or the the thing
00:36:21.600
to talk you into killing your parents look at the lives of being destroyed look at the dark places you
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can take kids 11 12 13 14 years old and they say oh and now it's 18 come on man you don't think
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there's a lot of 18 year olds are pressionable and plus they're all going to slip to it think
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how it would destroy your life having a monster like this in your head at the age of 12 or 13
00:36:46.000
think about that think about the people on the other side of the trade that knew exactly what they were
00:36:52.400
doing exactly i can't wait to go through the due diligence of andresen what they knew and what
00:37:06.240
brian kennedy i have two things i have to get to uh today one is the tina peters tina peters is now
00:37:12.240
in the as we say in prison the special housing unit she was put in i think last night for putting a
00:37:18.080
a for filing a complaint against i believe a ged teacher um and they put her in the shoe which is
00:37:26.880
solitary confinement uh here's my question we must make tina peters is a political prisoner and we must
00:37:35.520
make her cause we must put it at the top of the stack brian kennedy your thoughts yeah thank you steve and
00:37:42.880
thank you for that last segment too by the way i think it was very important extremely important um
00:37:48.880
last night i and others saw that tina peters was put in solitary confinement and immediately i thought
00:37:55.440
president trump has his justice department doing so many things they must have omitted getting tina
00:38:02.240
peters out of that prison um i was struck by the fact that on wednesday president trump had all those
00:38:09.120
israelis who had been prisoners in um in gaza and he brought them to the white house and said they
00:38:16.000
were heroes for having survived all that and not just the next day another political prisoner
00:38:24.400
tina peters a gold star mom who's 70 years old was put in solitary confinement and it looks to me like
00:38:31.520
her only crime was the fact that she was trying to run a fair election in the state of colorado
00:38:39.200
as the mesa county clerk and recorder she thought there was improprieties and so she wanted to do
00:38:47.120
something about that to preserve the evidence the state of colorado as we've discussed on this show
00:38:53.920
many times put her in you know put her on trial for that you know charged her and put her on trial and
00:39:01.280
then convicted her and she's in prison now for nine years which is essentially a death sentence at that age
00:39:09.440
now i'm calling on president trump and i did that in an ex post last night non-getter not because she's
00:39:16.160
70 not because she's a gold star mom and not because she's likely to die in prison but because tina peters
00:39:24.080
is a witness is a witness to the 2020 theft of an election the president as chief magistrate
00:39:32.800
could send the marshals into the colorado prison there are federal custodial witness protection
00:39:39.760
programs that you could put tina peters under that would supersede colorado law you could take her to
00:39:47.440
washington dc you could put her up in this was this would be what i would do anyway put her up in
00:39:53.760
blair house for a few weeks while she recovers then i would depose somebody or put someone from the
00:40:00.240
justice department or the assistant secretary over at dhs dave harvillitz and i would use her as a
00:40:08.000
witness as we're investigating the 2020 election she is a witness to that it looks to me and to
00:40:16.000
many others like there was foreign interference in that 2020 election there are national security
00:40:22.560
implications to that and to any future elections and so the perfectly sensible thing to do would be
00:40:30.480
to use the power of the law such that the president has today as chief magistrate and get her out of
00:40:37.280
that solitary confinement not to free her don't supersede colorado law in that sense put her to work
00:40:45.680
she knows things she fought for those things and use those parts of your government mr president
00:40:52.560
that want to investigate the 2020 election which you yourself believe was stolen use tina peters to
00:41:00.320
help with that tina peters is a witness you're 100 correct this is not about freeing her you've got dave
00:41:06.480
but you also have heather honey who i think is dave's deputy you have the two perfect people over at dhs
00:41:13.680
that mr president you have put in as uh as officials who this is their mandate this is what they're supposed to
00:41:20.800
do and so it's it's to it's to it's to well and then you roll her into a federal prison right because
00:41:28.000
she's in a you know she's a witness in in what will be a massive uh a massive trial correct i mean there's
00:41:33.600
a there's a internal logic to this is it not brian kennedy yeah i'm yes yes d but i'm not even sure about
00:41:39.280
putting her in a federal prison put her under house arrest i mean that's what i mean but yes yes house
00:41:46.480
arrest yes the start of blair house put her home yes yes yes i'm just saying that federal
00:41:51.120
authorities are taking charge of her right so they're not freeing her from colorado president
00:41:57.120
to take charge of her she's going to be witnesses like being in the witness protection program or
00:42:01.840
however exactly however you want to do the the methodologies that bureau prisons and the doj work
00:42:08.240
out is it'll be worked out but you put it in the hands of dave and heather honey and let her get a
00:42:13.600
systematic download of the stealing of the 2020 election and you get her away from being a prop
00:42:20.320
right for for for uh the colorado authorities particularly polis who's going to run on president
00:42:26.560
they're they're they every time on msmec they talk about tina peters they're proud that they have a
00:42:32.080
gold star mother in there for nine years they want her to die in prison just like they wanted
00:42:37.360
president trump to die in prison look also this thing so there's something big hang on we gotta
00:42:43.680
take a short we have to take a short commercial break i want to give you plenty of runway okay brian
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stephen k bannon okay um there was so much we didn't get to this morning we're going to get
00:44:23.120
to it this afternoon plus we're going to do more tina peters in fact we'll hold the tina peters more
00:44:27.920
of that because we got to do action action action you agree brown kennedy before i leave you brian um
00:44:36.320
mike huckabee who i think has been totally out of control i've called for him to be recalled before just
00:44:41.200
on some of the stuff he's saying in israel which is outlandish outrageous and just dead wrong but he
00:44:47.840
did something particularly as a former naval officer uh with pollard a a one of the biggest traders in
00:44:55.920
the history of the country one of the spies that did the most damage to our national security he invited
00:45:03.200
pollard to back in july when remember this was the height of the uh of uh trying to start the persian war
00:45:12.240
and president trump bringing it to an end um he had pollard come unannounced over to the
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embassy in uh in jerusalem should should huckabee be recalled immediately for this action sir
00:45:26.160
i i would think so steve uh absolutely we're in this weird spot right now where
00:45:31.120
there's not clarity about the law when it comes to whose side somebody is on pollard gave
00:45:38.640
u.s intelligence to israel it didn't matter whether israel was an ally didn't matter whether
00:45:44.080
some people argue they should have had that intelligence it was against the law to give a
00:45:49.040
foreign nation u.s intelligence that was critical to our own national security and so the fact that
00:45:57.520
huckabee would have him to the white house or to the embassy and talk to him is a very bad sign
00:46:04.160
especially as you have these senators and congressmen the seditious six i guess they're being called
00:46:09.680
who are telling the military right now don't follow any orders you don't think are legal you do what
00:46:15.280
you think is right okay what about if we have big parts of our military such as we had with general
00:46:21.440
milley in the last administration who decided themselves what they thought was right maybe we should be
00:46:27.280
sending intelligence let's say we get into a heated conflict with um communist china how about we
00:46:33.120
have somebody in our military send intelligence to communist china will that be acceptable too we need
00:46:38.880
to send a signal to people that there is the united states that we're going to defend and that there's no
00:46:46.160
there's no um wiggle room in that regard and when it comes to our justice department by the way yeah
00:46:51.840
just let me say when it comes to our justice department it should have been asking the president
00:46:56.240
after those seditious six came on came on with that video they should have been asking the president
00:47:01.840
should should they be arrested or not because if that's not betrayal to this country i'm not sure
00:47:07.120
what is they should be arrested they should be particularly we have troops in the field you have
00:47:11.360
you have 15 12 or 15 000 sailors and marines off the coast of venezuela one on carry strike group
00:47:16.320
and the other amphib ready group you've got people gotta make decisions no and pollard the question of
00:47:21.680
pollard is not whether you should have been charged or not he got 30 years in prison the question
00:47:25.840
whether they should have gotten the death penalty or not israel i tell you we don't have an alliance
00:47:30.080
with the israel israel is not and this was and you take a 10 by 6 room and you could fill it with
00:47:34.880
what pollard gave them for money by the way we'll get into the pollard right more right and it's outrageous
00:47:40.080
brian you're once again the sage here where do people go to get your content sir what are your coordinates
00:47:45.920
thank you steve um brian t kennedy one on x brian t kennedy on getter and present danger china.org
00:47:56.160
where the committee on the present danger china does a lot of very important work we have a webinar
00:48:00.720
starting at one o'clock to discuss many of the things the ccp is up to today always dark the ccp the
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existential threat to the chinese people lao baijing and the american people brian kennedy thank you good
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luck on your seminar your webinar thank you steve thank you mike lindell by the way so charlie
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kirk went tossed to the charlie kirk team at noon poso after that posobic made a quick trip out
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he did the megan kelly show i guess in bakersfield california last night i think he's back already
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uh took a red-eye back um um it's uh steve is going to follow that eric's going to follow that and then
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back to uh so you got gruber bowling and bannon back here five o'clock show's going to be lit because
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