Episode 4948: Radicals Growing in Brazil Foreshadowing Of What's To Come In US; Security Guarantee Push For Ukraine
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the latest in the Ukraine crisis, including the Tomahawk missile strike, the Venezuelan strikes, and the potential for a Supreme Court challenge to President Trump's strikes on Venezuela. We also discuss whether or not the strikes are illegal under the Constitution.
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This is an agreement that asked Ukraine to put its use to security.
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Wait, what are you talking about the agreement that you read last week, the Russian agreement?
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Are you talking about where they are right now?
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The original agreement I was talking about, but let's talk about the original agreement.
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We're not. We're not in a couple of important ways.
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One is the fact that you had the original agreement and then you have the president posting what he did yesterday about Ukraine being ungrateful and the rest.
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What that says, Joe, is there's no such thing as a rock solid American security guarantee.
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This is an administration that tariffs its friends.
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It's actually an oxymoron to speak about a rock solid security guarantee from this administration.
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Well, it doesn't mean you're going to have to take it up in the Senate.
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There's going to have to be a treaty or something that the Senate is going to have to agree to.
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One. Two, you're going to have to change some very big details.
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For example, the original agreement precludes any NATO stationing of forces in Ukraine's territory.
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The European counter draft doesn't preclude presence or exercising.
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There's nothing in any of the agreements about arms supply of Ukraine.
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I think that's all a real question for Ukraine.
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Last but not least, the fact that we're going to end up negotiating an agreement,
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ultimately, with Ukraine and Europe, that they're going to be more comfortable with.
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I thought the European response was quite ingenious.
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...is, constitutionally, the commander-in-chief is given...
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I'm just saying, politically, it's better to talk about the concern about using the military
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Because that's what they're calling him out on.
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I'm saying, constitutionally, the president of the United States would not lose a challenge
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Not with this Supreme Court, not with any Supreme Court.
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No Supreme Court is going to put themselves in the situation room and make a decision for
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the commander-in-chief, Democratic or Republican.
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All right, so let's just pretend this is 2008 or 2038.
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However, if a president of the United States says, I'm going to send the Marines to New Orleans...
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...to take care of crime, I'm going to send the Army into...
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A Supreme Court in 2008 or in 2026 is going to say that's illegal.
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In fact, we had a federal judge in California already say, in 2025, that's illegal.
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And any Supreme Court that doesn't say that's illegal is corrupt to the core.
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If he does, well, that's his legacy and not my work.
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Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?
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To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that are illegal.
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But certainly, there are some legal gymnastics that are going on with these Caribbean strikes
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It's a legitimate concern based on the law, based on the Constitution.
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And isn't that the rub here at the end of the day?
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Joe, there's one factor we haven't talked about, which is that when Pete Hegsteth came in as
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Secretary of Defense, one of the first things he did was to wipe out the top layer of lawyers
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in the military, the judge advocates general, they're called, who were supposed to advise
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And suddenly, there weren't any more lawyers anymore to give legal advice.
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And you know, military people, they don't like to try to be lawyers.
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And the reason that what the members of Congress, Alyssa Slotkin, Jason Crowe, etc., the reason
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that was so important was that knowing that these commanders were cut off without legal
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advice, they were speaking directly to the commanders and saying, don't follow illegal
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You know, consult somebody who can give you legal advice.
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And I think that they really did a service to commanders who just have been feeling dizzy
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in these months after the very deliberate effort to cut the legal advisory authority
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You cannot follow illegal orders or else you will put yourself in danger.
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You've sworn an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, which means our legal system.
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But you need somebody to tell you what the law means because you're a general.
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Any service member who refuses a lawful order is subject to court martial for violating
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And the Democrats stunt insinuating that they're illegal or unconstitutional orders.
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It is meant to weaken our country and weaken the military.
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How do you respond to these allegations from your colleagues, fellow veterans, that what
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you have put out there is weakening and corrosive to the military?
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Well, these unfortunately are some of Trump's core supporters that are rallying behind the
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They know exactly the difference between lawful versus unlawful.
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We were very clear in the video that what we're talking about is unlawful orders.
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You have the president's spokesperson going on into a press conference this past week and
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saying that we called for people to disobey lawful orders.
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They're simply lying because the truth is unacceptable to them.
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We wanted to start a conversation, and we did, about the dangerous rhetoric this president
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is using and the threats that he's made to use our military in an unlawful way.
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Well, send troops into Chicago, send troops into polling stations, kill terrorists' families,
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That is the one thing that's missing here, is open-ended American support for Ukraine.
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I do want to say this, though, and again, for people at home, just because this is the
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Trump administration doing this, we've been given a couple of false choices.
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One, people are saying if they give an inch, then they are betraying the Ukrainians and
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Well, you know, again, even the Biden administration knew that Ukraine was going to have to give
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Number two, this idea of NATO, Dr. Brzezinski, even Dr. Brzezinski, said all along, again,
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and Ed Luce proves it, one of the preeminent hawks, and the Soviets still think he was in
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large part responsible for their downfall, always said, you can't put a dagger in Russia's heart.
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And he understood that Ukraine could never have NATO membership, but there could be this
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So again, the person I talked to said Article 5 agreement, EU membership, American contractors
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working in Ukraine, one tripwire after another tripwire to guarantee that if the Russians went
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in, it would in fact be a war against the West.
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Monday, 24, November, in the year of our Lord, 2025.
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Okay, we are packed for the next couple of hours between designated the Muslim Brotherhood,
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a terrorist organization, moves about terrorist organizations in Venezuela.
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It looks like maybe prepping not just for covert action, maybe a military strike.
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I think kind of a debacle on this Ukraine situation.
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You just heard Joe Scarborough right there, no offense, Joe, lying about everything about
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Oh, yeah, they knew they're going to have to give up territory.
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Yeah, they knew they weren't going to have NATO membership.
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And now they're looking for an American guarantee of their sovereignty and a security guarantee.
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You just heard Joe Scarborough lay out what the tripwire is going to be.
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We've got Ben Harnwell, John Solomon, Brendan Steinhauser from the AI Alliance is going to
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We've got a massive report from Jessica Vaughn and Center for Immigration Studies on H-1B
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But I want to bring in and talk about one of the most disturbing things.
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In a weekend with nothing but news and much of it disturbing, the most disturbing it all
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happened in Brazil with our great ally, President Bolsonaro, arrested again, facing a 27-year
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prison sentence he's preparing to go to, arrested again by this out-of-control judge.
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Eduardo, can you please tell us what's happening to your father right now?
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We're going to get into what we have to do as the United States and particularly the MAGA
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Your father's revered as the Trump of the tropics.
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So he was convicted for 27 years in jail because a fake coup d'etat that we call the Disney
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World coup d'etat, because in that moment, January 8th of 2023 is the day that they say
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that it was supposed to happen, the coup d'etat.
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It was the same thing that we had here in January 6th in the United States.
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That's why we say it's the Disney World coup d'etat.
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But despite the reality, they convicted him to 27 years in jail.
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But what happened is not the beginning of the execution of the sentence.
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Alexandre de Moraes, the crazy justice, he sent my father in preventive arrest now to jail
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because he said that he was thinking in runaway.
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But the thing is, Jair Bolsonaro is now in house arrest with 24 hours per day cops around
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his house and even with the right to get into his backyard or in places around the house,
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you know, the pool area and some other areas of the house.
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And you have cameras looking to whatever he's doing.
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Now just came up one of the news in Brazil, a big one, showing drawn image from a media in Brazil,
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from Global, showing his house, inside of his house.
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Then I ask you, how can a 71-year-old man with the health in really bad conditions,
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he just had skin cancer, how can he run away in a such place like that?
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So what Alexandre de Moraes wants, he wants to kill Jair Bolsonaro in jail.
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Because they are bringing a lot of pressure to my father to support other candidates to run for president.
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Any candidate from the center supported by our Supreme Court.
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As my father bravely is saying, no, I will not support anyone.
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I do believe that I can get out from jail, approve in the amnesty bill in the Congress.
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So he's standing firm and bravely with this position.
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So Alexandre de Moraes is sending him to jail to make sure that he is going to serve as many years as possible,
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And only to finish with this first question, Alexandre de Moraes killed other men in jail.
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Claesão, he was in the pre-similarity situation of my father, you know, with a health that was not that good.
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Even the attorney general at that time asked to send this patriot that was arrested on January 8th to his house.
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Anyway, Alexandre de Moraes just ignored everything.
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And then after a couple of months, this man, Claesão, he was dead.
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He wants to repeat this case with Jair Bolsonaro.
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No, he wanted to get him in prison as soon as possible, make sure he can't run, again, I think it's in 26, and have him assassinated in prison.
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Okay, we're going to be going foreign and domestic all morning here in the war room.
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Particularly, President Trump's trying to bring an end to the kinetic part of the Third World War.
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We just have to make sure in bringing that, we're not getting the United States locked into long-term guarantees or guaranteeing the sovereignty of the Ukraine with the feckless, hapless Europeans who are not stepping up at all.
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Eduardo Bolsonaro's, I guess, were packed this morning on the Muslim Brotherhood.
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Looks like we're going to designate them, if not today, tomorrow.
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President Trump, big scoop of John Solomon's over the weekend.
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President Trump's trying to, is going to sign an executive order to designate them a terrorist organization.
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Also, Tina Peters is out of solitary confinement.
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Some questions if she's already getting into the Federal Witness Protection Program.
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Eduardo Bolsonaro, just for the audience, let's do a quick reset.
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When the election in Brazil was stolen as badly as the election for President Trump was stolen in 2020,
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with Bolsonaro, he was in Orlando, Florida at the time.
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The people down there just had enough of it, of having a Marxist with very little support
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and a partner of the Chinese Communist Party, Lula, who's been a total disaster,
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to essentially steal the office with the Supreme Court Justice in that cabal.
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So they rightfully did what free people can do.
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What they've turned that into is what they turned it into President Trump.
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Now, thank God you had Boris Epstein and Todd Blanche and Embo Bovey and a great team
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in the war room posse and other supporters of President Trump.
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When the Republican Party abandoned him and Fox News and the Murdochs abandoned him
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in those dark years of 21, 22, and 23, people stood up.
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Now, thank God President Trump came back and won the presidency
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and the greatest political comeback in history.
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It's the reason he's not in prison for over 100 years to be assassinated in that prison.
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The same playbook they're running on Bolsonaro.
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They sentenced one of the best men and greatest leaders in the world,
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best men in the world and greatest leaders in the world,
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to 27 years in prison, folks, for being in Orlando, Florida,
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when you had this civil protest in Brazil about a stolen election.
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And he's 70 years old, so he's going to die in prison of natural causes,
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but they wanted to make sure that there's no way he can get amnesty and get out and run at 26
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That is why they have gone out of their way now to trump up these other charges
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and get him into prison sooner to be assassinated.
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Is that essentially the case that is before us right now, Eduardo?
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And even the Supreme Court is so comfortable that they do not hide anymore,
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that they say, we are not going to commit the same mistake that the Americans did,
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which means they will not allow Jerry Bolsonaro to run in the next year election.
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We will have election for president and Congress in October of next year.
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So what they did is they speed it up as much as possible to convict Jerry Bolsonaro.
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There is nothing connecting my father with January 6th, January 8th, things that happened.
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they're trying to make us believe that a protest,
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he sent a little bit more than 1,000 people to the field
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And when we try to get to have access to the cameras of the local
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we could prove that there was a bunch of people infiltrated there.
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But this is the excuse that Morais and the Supreme Court
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is using to get Bolsonaro out of their way in the politics.
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they're also waiting an opportunity to come after Trump
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Morais put Elon Musk in investigation in Brazil.
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Morais detained Jason Miller after the CPAC of Brazil in 2021,
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Morais issued an arrest warranty against an American citizen
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because she was tweeting things that Morais didn't like here in U.S. soil.
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So they're only waiting to do the possibility to do that.
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if you start to lose in the midterms next year,