Stephen K. Bannon and John Solomon join me in the War Room to talk about TikTok, the Mideast, the Muslim Brotherhood, and much, much more. We also talk about the latest in the war on terror, and why we should be worried about it.
00:04:38.000Is you're seeing the Republican establishment very focused.
00:04:41.000They say, we got an opportunity to take this thing back from the MAGA, from the war room, from, you know, all these people running around with their podcasts as a sporting war room.
00:04:51.000We've got a way to take it back, and we're just going to bail on Trump.
00:04:53.000And if he thinks he's got a 20-seat hurdle, he's going to have a 30-seat hurdle, because you're not going to have these veterans that kind of own these districts.
00:05:00.000What is your warning to the White House now about this extensive polling you've been doing?
00:05:06.000And, of course, Mark Mitchell's doing the exact same thing.
00:05:08.000And voila, the two best, two of the best pollsters on MAGA, because you're in that consortium now with, I think, four pollsters, because you guys have called it the best over the last couple of years.
00:05:18.000You both are giving the same warning to a White House that you fully support.
00:05:23.000You're not trying to hurt their feelings.
00:05:25.000You're trying to make sure they're around and not going to prison, because what's happening in Brazil is going to happen here.
00:05:30.000I keep telling people, this fight's a long way from over.
00:05:34.000What is your warning to the White House, sir?
00:05:38.000You have to focus on the agenda, the at-home America First agenda, because your suit of armor against these people who will backstab you in a heartbeat has always been your support among the American public, among your people.
00:05:53.000And this coalition, the broadest coalition that we have seen, any of us have polled, Steve, for a Republican since Nixon, actually better than Nixon's coalition, because the country is more diverse now than it was during Richard Nixon.
00:06:08.000That's how you scare your enemies, not, you know, with threats on truth or with going, you know, doing their pet projects overseas.
00:06:15.000You scare them by maintaining your support at home, and the only way you can do that is to address their needs, to do what you told them you were going to do when you were elected.
00:06:25.000You were not elected to be the foreign policy second-term president.
00:06:28.000He's the only other president, other than Grover Cleveland, who's had two non-consecutive terms.
00:06:41.000I'm not trying to be, I'm not trying to defend the president, but the reality is he did inherit a third, kinetic part of a third world war from an administration that was completely incompetent.
00:06:50.000It's not like you can just sit there and wish the world away.
00:06:53.000I know much of the audience that we have in the war room, I love them.
00:06:56.000They would love the fact that we never did everything overseas.
00:08:07.000As long as you're running these deficits, also, Charlie Gasparino, somebody's got to prove Charlie Gasparino wrong.
00:08:13.000Charlie Gasparino says, hey, I think the new normal is 3% inflation.
00:08:17.000Part of that is driven by these massive deficits we have.
00:08:22.000We have to get our hands around that to talk about affordability.
00:08:25.000But as importantly as affordability, in fact, I think more importantly, is the bets we've made on the big, beautiful bills of supply-side tax cut to drive capital investment here for manufacturing and the tariffs, which is not to generate so much revenue.
00:08:41.000It's really to force, it's a forcing function to bring foreign manufacturers back here to the United States so they don't have to pay the tariffs.
00:08:48.000Both of those are predicated upon one thing, returning America to a manufacturing powerhouse.
00:08:58.000Now, the reality about doing this, at the same time that you've got this, you have both artificial intelligence and you have the whole visa scam that are putting pressure on wait for it.
00:09:08.000The very people right now that are kind of in revolt, the under 50 voter.
00:09:12.000Let me bring Brendan Steinhauser in first.
00:09:16.000Brendan, you've been a long-time Tea Party activist.
00:09:19.000Just give me a quick curriculum vitae so people know where you're coming from.
00:09:24.000Well, it's great to be with you, Steve.
00:09:26.000Yeah, I started out as a grassroots activist, you know, going back to kind of the Obama years and worried about federal spending and worried about, you know, what Obamacare would look like.
00:09:37.000And so organized thousands of people across the country to push back on some of those big government policies.
00:09:42.000We were very critical of Republicans when we needed to be very critical of Democrats as well.
00:09:46.000And I led the 9-12-2009 taxpayer march on Washington where we had half a million people come to the Capitol to express their displeasure at Congress.
00:09:55.000And so I've been a long-time activist.
00:09:57.000And I've gotten very interested in AI over the years.
00:10:00.000And it's got a lot of aspects to it that are very concerning as I know the War Room Posse shares those concerns.
00:10:06.000Well, you've actually done, I mean, you've actually started a group to focus on this.
00:10:11.000As I said, when Brendan does something like this, this shows you, it's, walk me through from a grassroots activist and kind of MAGA working class supporting workers.
00:10:21.000And you hear all the polling, this is, they want us to focus on now domestically and jobs.
00:10:26.000The cross currents of the visa scams, which CIS has done, Jessica Vaughn's done a brilliant study of, she's coming up in a minute.
00:10:32.000And artificial intelligence is the double whammy.
00:10:35.000It's the pincer move that's going to crush working people in this country.
00:10:39.000Tell me about your organization and what is your new, you're one of the leaders in this.
00:10:45.000Yeah, our organization is called the Alliance for Secure AI.
00:10:50.000And, you know, the organization started because we started to get really concerned about what this would do, what AI would do in terms of jobs, in terms of the human experience, in terms of dignity and purpose.
00:11:01.000And, you know, you have the leaders of these AI companies coming out themselves and saying that we can have mass unemployment.
00:11:07.000Some of these companies, their express purpose is to replace human beings, which I am just, you know, diametrically opposed to.
00:11:22.000So we're very concerned on the economic side of things.
00:11:24.000And then, look, I think the other key aspect here is that they can't even control AI right now with these capabilities that we have currently.
00:11:31.000So, you know, what happens is this stuff gets more powerful, these capabilities increase, and they're going much faster, and they become much smarter.
00:11:40.000I'm very concerned that the companies can't control them now.
00:11:43.000What are they going to do when the capabilities advance in the future?
00:11:46.000They're not going to be able to control those models either.
00:11:48.000And that gets you into some really worrisome territory.
00:11:50.000So we've been fighting really hard to build public awareness about the implications of AI, to educate policymakers about this, to really shout from the rooftops and say, slow down, be thoughtful about this.
00:12:03.000Let's put some safeguards in place that put American workers first, that put America broadly first.
00:12:08.000And let's – hey, by the way, let's not sell ourselves out to China by shipping them our technology and allowing the CCP to build on our technology and use it to not only control their own people but to export authoritarianism around the country.
00:12:21.000So a lot of concerns with AI from kind of an economic standpoint, from a national security standpoint.
00:12:26.000And, look, I go and speak to people all the time, especially at churches around the country.
00:12:45.000I want to go back to something you said that's very important.
00:12:47.000I don't want to bury the lead here, that even with no safeguards ever, the frontier labs, they're at the forefront of kind of telling you or leaking out every other week.
00:12:57.000They don't have total control about what they're doing.
00:12:59.000When they're first to admit, whether it's hallucinations or all these types of things, they're getting surprised by this technology themselves all the time inside the frontier labs.
00:13:20.000And the other thing that everybody in the war room posse should be aware of is that some of these very people developing AI, they're saying they don't know how it works exactly.
00:13:28.000They can't control it and they're building their own sort of systems.
00:13:33.000Some of them are buying land, buying ranches or farms, stocking up on medicine and food and water because they're worried about the worst case scenario.
00:13:40.000So if the people building this don't understand it, can't control it, and they're building essentially bunkers, then what does that tell you about maybe what we ought to think about and what we ought to do to prevent the most catastrophic scenarios?
00:13:56.000Anyway, Brendan, hang on, because I want you to hear Jessica Vaughn.
00:13:59.000Jessica Vaughn is going to join us about this monumental study over CIS and H1Bs.
00:14:04.000Also, I think we're going to track down John Solomon.
00:14:07.000John Solomon broke an amazing story the week, another huge scoop about the designation finally of the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization.
00:14:15.000Also, we're going to get an update on Tina Peters.
00:14:17.000Tina Peters is out of the hole, what we call imprison the shoe, the special housing unit, solitary confinement.
00:17:10.000John, over the weekend, you broke this huge story in the Muslim Brotherhood last night.
00:17:15.000But I haven't had a chance to ask you about Mandami on Friday.
00:17:19.000Because over the weekend, there's a discussion in MAGA.
00:17:22.000Is President Trump playing five-dimension chess since you broke the story that he's going to designate the Muslim Brotherhood a terrorist organization?
00:17:29.000Or is President Trump just trying to glide off the celebrity of Mandami, sir?
00:17:34.000So I actually think, really, that this was a very strategic weekend for the president.
00:17:41.000I think they knew that Mandami would relish having a fight, maybe having a Zelensky-like moment in the White House.
00:17:47.000President Trump wasn't going to give it to him.
00:17:49.000In fact, the White House calculation was if President Trump was nice and praised Mandami,
00:17:53.000it would hurt him with his radical peeps and socialists back in New York.
00:17:57.000And so he did exactly that to play a little bit of a thing.
00:17:59.000And then they knew MAGA might be a little concerned.
00:18:02.000Is he going soft on someone that likes terrorists?
00:18:04.000So they set up this plan to sign the long-awaited Muslim Brotherhood terrorist designation for Monday.
00:18:11.000And on Sunday morning, because Justin News had done a very important story last week on it,
00:22:59.000I think it's gone a long way to get people on Capitol Hill to realize this is as serious as it gets.
00:23:04.000So, hat tip to Glenn Beck and his team over there at the Blaze.
00:23:09.000Jessica Vaughn, CIS, you had a podcast the other day.
00:23:13.000Look, you're a truth teller, and this is something American people have to understand.
00:23:19.000The H-1Bs, all of these, I call them scams on the visa program.
00:23:25.000I've been calling for the word, we've got to stop all of it.
00:23:28.000We've got to shut down H-1Bs, but we need a moratorium on all of it.
00:23:31.000Chip Roy and others agree this is out of control.
00:23:34.000The young people in this country are being crushed right now with competing against foreign workers for what should be jobs for American workers and artificial intelligence.
00:23:43.000Tell me about your podcast the other day.
00:23:48.000Well, so we've published a lot of reports and data showing that this H-1B program in particular is not bringing in the best and the brightest
00:23:58.000or people who are needed by our economy or by American businesses to compete or to innovate.
00:24:05.000They're ordinary workers working for less and they replace American workers.
00:24:10.000So I think it really helped people to hit home to hear from this consular officer who had actually spent two years in southern India, in Chennai, adjudicating these visas.
00:24:24.000And what she told us was that they knew that there were about 15 consular officers who'd issue about 200 visas a day, H-1B visas a day, and 80 to 90% of them were fraudulent.
00:24:39.000People fake their credentials, their degrees.
00:24:43.000They were paying bribes to these consultancies that were run by Indian politicians.
00:24:50.000They had people stand in for job interviews for them.
00:24:54.000The whole thing is just a massive fraud on our system.
00:25:03.000And yet their supervisors at the State Department said, no, just keep cranking out those visas because we're under pressure from Indian politicians who, by the way, own some of these businesses and are making money off of it.
00:25:18.000The employers in the United States are in on it as well.
00:25:21.000The Indian workers, when they get to the US, are paying them bribes.
00:25:26.000And it's all a scheme set up specifically to replace American workers.
00:25:31.000And we let it happen hundreds of thousands of times every year with new workers.
00:25:36.000And it's just, you know, the most galling thing was to hear that, you know, this has been going on for so many years.
00:25:42.000And government agencies are just telling consular officers, just keep issuing these visas.
00:26:33.000And it's damaging Americans and opportunities for American workers.
00:26:39.000It's a lie that Americans can't do the math to become computer programmers.
00:26:44.000It's a lie that we need more of these workers.
00:26:48.000We're a country of 360-some million people.
00:26:50.000We don't have labor shortages in anything.
00:26:52.000In fact, we have low labor force participation rates.
00:26:55.000And we need to end these programs so that we can restore greatness to our country and to continue to be a leader in the world and be self-sufficient and not erode away at our competitiveness by leaving it up to cheap labor body shops to do work.
00:30:36.000It's called Parsing Immigration Policy, and we have that and so much more on our website available for everyone to learn from and use, I hope.
00:31:25.000You're warning to folks about artificial intelligence and jobs.
00:31:29.000And I'm telling you, if the visas and the AI keep wiping out jobs like they are of American workers, you're going to lose 40 seats in the house.
00:35:04.000By the way, oil may be heading that way anyway for reasons that have nothing to do with financial warfare, nothing to do with what I just said.
00:35:25.000It didn't work with Russia because Russia has too many allies, and they're joined at the hip with China, and they have a lot of natural resources.
00:36:28.000There you can subscribe if you like to our strategic intelligence or flagship newsletter.
00:36:33.000I don't have to recite the things we got right, but a long list of things where we predicted them months in advance.
00:36:40.000So that's really our claim to fame is that our predictive analytics are better.
00:36:44.000I don't say I'm smarter than anyone else, but we do have better models, better predictive analytics.
00:36:48.000By the way, Steve, with this, the number one bestselling book on the dangers and threats of artificial intelligence, which you were just talking about with the last guest, is my book, Money GPT.
00:37:00.000And you can get a free copy of that with a subscription to Strategic Intelligence.
00:37:04.000But that book's a year old, but we learned about the threats a year ago.
00:37:08.000And it's good reading for people who are interested in the threats of AI.
00:37:13.000And I talked to the top people in Silicon Valley and Washington.
00:38:54.000That's important, because that indicates to me, Steve, that this 28-point plan is still very much something that the U.S. administration is hoping to construct the peace negotiations on,
00:39:06.000the framework for the peace negotiations, which they're calling it now.
00:39:10.000So, they had this big meeting in Switzerland and Geneva yesterday with Steve Witkoff and Marco Rubio,
00:39:15.000and then the Umarov, the guy who's leading this from the Ukrainian side.
00:39:23.000And you have the European response to the 28-point plan, which they hate.
00:39:27.000Here's the interesting thing, right, Steve?
00:39:56.000Now, we know this is the situation, right? We know this is obviously what they want.
00:39:59.000This is why Europe has been so invested in this war from the beginning via NATO to give NATO the new lease of life.
00:40:06.000But the fact that they're putting this in, right, the fact that they are concentrating on this point in the 28-point plan is incredible for me, Steve.
00:40:16.000Europeans are basically saying, to go forward, for us to lift our veto on this peace plan,
00:40:24.000America has to come up and stump up the guarantees for Ukraine's defence.
00:40:29.000And for the life of me, Steve, for the life of me, I don't understand.
00:40:42.000I don't understand why he hasn't pushed that line yet.
00:40:46.000He must surely be coming close to it, Steve, because this European position is an up-frontal show of demonstration of massive disrespect on behalf of the Europeans for the MAGA America First agenda.
00:41:01.000Is there still a possibility, before I let you bounce and we'll get you back on tomorrow and we'll get more time,
00:41:06.000is there still a possibility for the United States just to walk away and wash your hands of it and say,
00:41:10.000hey, you guys, the Europeans drove them into war, the Ukrainian people paid for it, the Russians won, we're out?
00:45:08.000Your thoughts before you punch out, sir?
00:45:10.000Yeah, I just want to support Jessica Vaughn and her analysis and just to show the extent of the scam from her great podcast.
00:45:20.000Seventy-one percent of the H-1B visas come from India.
00:45:24.000Seventy-one, only 12 percent from China.
00:45:26.000That tells you something's going on right there.
00:45:29.000Again, there's a cap of only 85,000 H-1B visas, but somehow one district in India, the Madras district, got 220,000, two and a half times the cap Congress has set.
00:47:06.000Born Lucky is the story of my father quitting his job and dedicating himself to adapting me to the world.
00:47:16.000I was diagnosed with autism about eight years old.
00:47:18.000My parents were told that I needed to be evaluated, so they took me to one of those little medical conference waiting areas, and they sat there with the linoleum floors and the bad coffee and old magazines, and they waited for about two hours in this medical building.
00:47:32.000Well, a woman gave me a bunch of tests, and she came back, and she said, look, he's got so many things going wrong, behavioral issues.
00:47:38.000If somebody touches him in class or in line, he turns around and slugs them.
00:47:42.000Big sensory issues, if they're socks that I didn't like or a jacket or whatever, I would melt down.
00:47:49.000And then there was learning disabilities.
00:47:51.000My IQ test is the average of two scores.
00:47:56.000My score was half mentally retarded, half genius.
00:48:01.000A 20-point spread is a learning disability out of 70-point spread.
00:48:05.000So the woman who was the psychologist looked at my parents and said, it's very hard to understand what's going on inside his head.
00:50:11.000You need to follow me on that account.
00:50:13.000But, Steve, and I cannot say how grateful I've been to you and to your viewers because they really understand the power of this story and the power of parents and what the Born Lucky journey means.