Episode 4953： FBI To Investigate The Seditious 6
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The retribution campaign has a new target. Six of the lawmakers who served our country honorably and bravely and dared to tell members of the United States military that it is their duty to refuse to carry out any illegal orders has been targeted by President Donald Trump.
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and retribution campaign has a new target six of them actually the lawmakers who served our
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country honorably and bravely and dared to tell members of the united states military
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something that would in normal times be totally normal and totally obvious that it is their duty
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to refuse to carry out any illegal orders this afternoon one of those lawmakers senator elissa
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slocken of michigan who before becoming a member of that body served as a cia analyst and as a cia
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analyst she went to iraq she also served in the pentagon during both the bush and obama presidencies
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she today announced that she believes she is under investigation by the fbi's counterterrorism
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division because she appeared in that video that has clearly sent donald trump into some sort of rage
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donald trump saying that what she did was quote punishable by death in fact a source familiar
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tells us that the fbi is now working to schedule interviews with slocken and the five other
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democrats who appear in that video urging u.s service members simply to not comply with any
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illegal order the source telling ms now that the fbi has contacted capitol police to try to schedule
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these interviews ahead of that news fbi director cash patel was asked about the video here's what he
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said democratic lawmakers released a video calling on military personnel to defy illegal orders president
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trump weighed in and called it a seditious uh behavior when you saw this one went through your head
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what goes through my head is the same thing that goes through my head in any case
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is there a lawful predicate to open up an inquiry and investigation or is there not and that decision
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will be made by the career agents and analysts here at the fbi is the fbi getting involved
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based on the fact that is an ongoing matter um there's not much i can say
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pete hegg says pentagon also getting in on the action by launching an investigation into arizona
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senator mark kelly for his participation in the video hegg said threatened the decorated veteran and
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war hero last night with being called back into active duty status so that he could possibly be
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court-martialed so what do you make of the situation right now and kelly's response
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well good for the senator to say what he said but let me take a step back and indicate that
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what he and his colleagues did was inappropriate they didn't have to remind service members that
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they have an obligation to support the constitution and realizing of course that officers and enlisted
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personnel take two different oaths and the enlisted personnel this was a message that those congress
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members and members of the intelligence former intelligence community sent to um sent to the
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service members and it was to those enlisted folks which is you can disobey your your bosses you can do
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that well the point of the fact of matter is when senator kelly and his colleagues made the comment
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the message to me was we this collection of folks we don't trust the the military the uniformed
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leadership and we think that they've been taken over by the administration i would completely disagree
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with that underlying assessment which brought them to make these statements that's my view of all this
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god bless senator kelly and what he's accomplished in his life and where he has been totally agree with
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everything he just said however he could have taken a step back and said why am i making why am i sending
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this message which clearly is an insult to our chain of command those in uniform folks that i have had
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the privilege of serving with and training and growing into the positions that they're in today
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and i don't i think he could have made a better decision and you know we've been saying this for a long
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time a lot of us have been saying this for a long time donald trump believes that the u.s military
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should be his personal muscle it should be his personal militia that answers only to him not to congress
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not to the constitution not to the american people nobody um donald trump thinks that article two
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means he owns the military um like he owns buildings or owns anything else and um you know this is an
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attempt by him and others to say to members of congress and to all american citizens that you have no right
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to express your views about the military or the constitution or your own freedoms
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this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going medieval on
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these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people the people have had
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a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to do everything in the world
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to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen and where do people like that go
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to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any of these people had a conscience
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ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that answer is to save my country
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this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k bann
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tuesday 26 november year of our lord 2025 we are packed uh in this hour and uh it's going to be a
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cross between action proposed action and uh strongly worded letters at least for part of it so just bear
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with us and see how the uh how we're trending on all these uh actions against the deep state let me
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start with dr bradley thayer first so uh it's come out cash patel and the fbi are calling people in
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as they should immediately for interviews i hope uh that's under oath uh and leads to um quite rapidly
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um charges being brought and also um mark kelly you heard general i think hurling right there is
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kind of confused but he said it's a total insult to the military uh to do with these guys and totally
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inappropriate dr thayer why is it important that we must take dramatic in immediate action on this
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sir and not dither because the great strength of our civil military relations what's called objective
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civilian control which is where uh civilians order the military what to do the military obeys the military
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uh has its own domain the military deals with military decisions of its own accord uh but obeys uh civilian
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leadership and that's been the great strength of the u.s military as well as all professional
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militaries and has led to tremendous military success our professionalization and that's unlike for
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example the chinese communist party which controls the people's liberation army or in the cold war where
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the um communist party of the soviet union controlled the red army the soviet army they were politicized
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forces so what these six have done is done their utmost not just to sow discord right that would be bad
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enough but they're undermining objective civilian control they're undermining the heart of the most
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successful civil military relationship that's existed in history and for that they have to be held
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uh to account they cannot do that that's something which undermines our military effectiveness
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that undermines the loyalty and calls into question the loyalty of course of all service members
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it's outrageous on its face but it gets to something which is very deep which is undermining uh the heart of
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civil military relations even more so steve hey but hang on a second i want to get to that number one that came
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from the army was founded in 1775 and uh general washington always uh answered to and made a point of
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knowing even though they were stiffing him there was no money it was a complete fiasco uh especially
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in the early part of the war he always made sure that everybody knew he reported to the continental
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congress he were in particularly the committee that that uh oversaw the military he went out of his way
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the only other time i think we've had a crisis like this is in the civil war uh when mcclellan there
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was there was an active uh beginning of a coup um against the president lincoln by mcclellan and his staff
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and president lincoln cleaned that out but there was this hint of uh of a coup of a military coup where
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they were not going to report to civilian authority this is a deep crisis this is why this has to be
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dealt with immediately and i think recalling kelly to active duty and court marshalling him
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as uh as captain finnell said today he was the senior officer in this and he ought to be dealt with
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continue on dr thayer well all of them should be dealt with uh certainly senator uh kelly should be but
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this can't stand uh this is something which undermines uh what is essential for for our national
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security uh it undermines uh the service men and women uh in uh in our country so it can't stand
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because what it is doing is getting at the heart of uh how our civilian leadership controls the
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military and in turn how the military serves that civilian leadership and so uh what they have done
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uh is um uh done their utmost to undermine that and it's the pattern that we see with the democrats
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at this time right it gets back to their leninist tactics right to advance what they call revolutionary
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defeatism right they want things to be as bad as possible right the worse the better uh for the democrats
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to undermine trump uh to checkmate him to to fetter him uh at every step uh as a way of course of undermining
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the u.s so what they're doing is again the most successful civil military relationship that's existed in
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history has been u.s civil military relationship it's gone through ups and downs steve as you mentioned
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we could more recently recall vietnam and the stresses that vietnam placed on the u.s military
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and the aftermath of vietnam uh where in the 1970s for example where we talked about a hollow force
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the army rebuilt itself has did all the armed services because they were supremely professional
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so what these six are doing is undermining that and that is something which is unpatriotic that is
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something which is supremely dangerous and it is a way of putting the u.s military on the course to
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becoming a politicized force like you would have in china it's also a crime yeah well it is a crime
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yes i mean the fbi it's a crime i mean the fbi will get to the heart of that as well as others
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um why senate ethics has not stepped up here or house ethics is uh obviously a question yeah i know
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but but but but but but but house ethics you got republicans you got you got the the senate it's it's
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these are crimes have to be dealt with as crimes we have to put this down dr thayer we got to move on
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uh where do people go to get your analysis and all this sure steve thanks very much uh brad thayer
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and brad thayer getter and ed truth thanks for starting us off dr bradley thayer thank you sir
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appreciate you also i might add i think i'll link glenn beck is doing an incredible job on this very
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topic over the blaze and uh we'll link to some of his uh commentary and analysis uh julie kelly uh this
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afternoon you've been following the situation where um they're trying to bring criminal contempt
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charges around president trump and his people and julie kelly called shot you said emil bovie is one
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of their targets and lo and behold emil bovie is one of their targets ma'am correct so as i explained
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this morning we were waiting today for mandatory filings per judge jeb bosberg related to his
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criminal contempt proceedings against the doj and the trump administration so what he asked for today
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was both sides the aclu who is representing those illegal venezuelans tied to tren de aragua who were
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covered under the president's alien enemies act proclamation and then from the department of
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justice who they would want number one is witnesses in any contempt hearing and then dates for a hearing
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for those witnesses to testify so as of right now 5 15 eastern time the trump administration has not
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filed its uh response to jeb bosberg which i'm sure it's making him really steamed but i think is kind
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funny but the aclu did and they list numerous doj even dhs officials who they want to testify sworn testimony
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about behind the scenes deliberations before on and after jeb bosberg made that ridiculous oral order
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he calls it to return planes to planes carrying these illegal venezuelans that were already out of u.s
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airspace on the evening of march 15th of this year ordered those planes returned so this is the basis
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of his contempt finding and some of this a lot of it actually jeb bosberg brought this up himself last
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week in the hearing relates to this alleged whistleblower uh at eras ravini who was a doj immigration
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official who made these claims about comments that amil bovy had made as the i think at that point
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acting deputy attorney general and what they wanted to say to the courts if judges tried to thwart and
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stop the implementation of the alien enemies act proclamation so this whistleblower account you and
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i've talked about it i have coverage of it on my substack declassified with julie kelly i reposted my
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piece about this whistleblower from earlier this year bosberg himself last year last week brought
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up the whistleblower and saying he wanted to hear from the whistleblower and everyone the whistleblower
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had spoken to about this and other immigration lawsuits that the deal just handling at the time
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just hang hang on one second we're short commercial break julie kelly on the other side
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working for you julie kelly is um it is the is the uh trump administration showing some contempt
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for bosberg by not like stop snapping to and say sir yes sir and uh making sure i guess it should have
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been five o'clock today the time of russia i would think close the business maybe it's midnight but
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they're not they're not rushing they're not being bum rushed into this are they ma'am
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no they're not and that's exactly what job bosberg is trying to do recall steve that his original
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probable cause finding was last april where he accused the trump administration of contempt of court
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for defying that oral order that was vacated by the appellate court however it was kicked back to
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bosberg just last week and he did not waste a minute restarting this uh these proceedings so perhaps
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the trump administration the doj is going to just file a one pager later tonight and say we have no
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potential witnesses we don't think that this contempt hearing is legal and we're not offering up any dates
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for hearing and let jeb bosberg work from there keep in mind steve also we just found out today
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that jeb bosberg signed off on 19 19 gag orders non-disclosure orders prohibiting uh cell phone
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carriers from notifying sitting u.s senators and members of congress that jack smith had subpoenaed
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their cell phone records so as his corruption and his malfeasance continues to get exposed
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he is not backing off he is actually ramping up and accelerating his doubling down he's doubling
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down against the trump administration he's doubling down go to article three project right now uh and get
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all the information about getting to your congressman or senator about the impeachment of bosberg it has to
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happen also checking with grace on bill blaster we've got two major weapons to do this bosberg has to
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be impeached last question the aclu they understand they want to go after emil bovey because he's he's
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a sitting we took him out of the justice department which god knows we needed him but he was so important
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to put him in appellate court because he's on the short list of the uh the supreme court don't they want
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to sit there and that what they want to do is put a blowtorch to emil bovey to use this false proceeding
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this phony proceeding to make sure they ding him for his supreme court confirmation hearing do they not ma'am
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they absolutely do and this was what this whistleblower airs ravini and i actually would like to see mr
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ravini testify under oath about these alleged conversations that he was involved in or overheard
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but the point is to drag emil bovey again through the mud this almost successfully uh disrailed derailed
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emil bovey's confirmation uh process i think he got exactly 50 votes or 51 so this almost torpedoed his
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uh judicial nomination to the third circuit court of appeals and to your point yes he is towards the top
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of the list to be supreme court justice he's the last person the left and democrats uh would want on the
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supreme court because of course he's very sharp very smart shrewd and he understands what this battle is all
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about so yes this is going to be another attempt to drag his name through the mud as he's sitting on
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uh the third circuit court of appeals julie uh where do people go for your substack where they go for
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your social media accounts you are on fire ma'am and a couple of great called shots on this one
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thanks steve thanks for having me on declassified with julie kelly on substack x on julie underscore
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kelly too i will keep refreshing uh the docket for this bossberg contempt proceeding and as if the doj the
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government does respond later i will be posting it as soon as i get it uh thank you ma'am appreciate
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you thanks okay i said earlier today i said go so go to julie kelly or substack watch it i said today
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you've got the you've got these you got michael benz you got alex jones you got natalie wins and
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and and a couple dozen more that do an amazing job of breaking down the deep state of all the
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the tap roots but you've got to get in and do the wet work if you want to take it down
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you can you can defund it you can do that but at some point in time like what's happening on the
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fbi you got to get in there what julie kelly's doing in this huge fight on bossberg and and we
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have to impeach this guy we have to put him through the process ivan reikland joins us now he and
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general flynn are working on something about tina peters we got to raise up the tina peters we get
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and it's going to take maniacal focus ivan what have you and general flynn come up with sir
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yes i mean you nailed it on the head yesterday i think at this point it requires political courage
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to extract her because we all know that they're going to maneuver in every which way possible
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they being polis and jenna griswold and the radical left to keep her as a political prisoner
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a prisoner of war effectively and so when you look at the perspective of what the democrats have done
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over the last 11 years of treason effectively as seditious conspirators they don't ask a court
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to and they don't pontificate and ask themselves hmm i wonder if the supreme court or a district
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court is going to allow us to conduct treason no they actually just conduct it and then we have to
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claw our way back to stop them from conducting it uh it would be very novel for a republican
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administration to say you know what this is lawful this is our legal analysis we're going to go ahead
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and file for example the u.s attorney for the district of colorado i believe it's peter mcneely
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uh he can go ahead and file federal criminal charges against jenna griswold for her violation
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of the 2020 elect the procedure of the of the 2020 election and then from there once that is filed
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literally within the same second the president could order the attorney general pam bondi to then order
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the director of the federal marshals program uh guyadis seralta the director and then he could muster all
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4 000 or so of his federal marshals to conduct a physical raid on the la vista correctional facility
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but hang on similar to the raid that was done whoa whoa whoa hang on hang on hang on hang on hang on
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before we get to the raid let's go back to charging her you and general flynn propose the information
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that we have now do you you believe that there is existing information out there uh and uh evidence
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that could lead the u.s attorney to do that sir so mike lindell and his attorney at the time um
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mr uh kurt olson have put a put together quite a bit of evidence related to the 2020 electoral heist
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uh that gent uh excuse me that tina peters could be a federal witness for uh that's what i feel to
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kind of skip to hang lost over that hang but but no but yeah but hang on hang on you nailed it right
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there uh if memory serves me correctly ivan kurt olson is now the special envoy of the special
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assistant in the white house complex i think over at eob reporting i think to susie i think it's a
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direct report up to the chief of staff this is what a priority is for the president to get to the bottom
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of this so have you get to the bottom of the 2020 electoral heist exactly and and to do it by the
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way as you know he's principally a machine guy we're not we're we're mail-in ballot guys but hey god
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bless you and so my point is you the very guy that you and flynn name and kind of your punch list to
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how you have to do it voila is not hosting a show on lindell tv he actually happens to be in the in the
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in the what's called the white house infrastructure and his specific designation is the special
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assistant for uh the election integrity about the 2020 election so if you and general flynn reach out
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to him because if if he has the evidence from his years at lindell you're saying this is the path
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of critical path you have to do he's the guy it's kind of a plug and play is it not there's no one
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better position to expose the evidence of the 2020 electoral heist in the entire country as well as
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the 22 2022 electoral heist in arizona as it relates to carry lake than kurt olson he's represented as far
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as i understand the president uh mike lindell in those lawsuits as well as carry lake so this is an
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absolutely fantastic pick of the number one draft pick for the president to pick to be able to expose
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this additionally he has years of experience exposing the colorado component you know mesa county just
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to contextualize she's the tina peters was the only county official of the 3100 plus counties and county
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equivalents throughout the united states to actually have the courage to expose i research identify and
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then expose the illegal activities of the machines in her county's 2020 election the federal
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election component of it and so that's why she would be the most compelling witness of anybody
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in the country uh to go ahead and prove the criminality of jenna griswold it'd be amazing
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i want grace put up his uh general flint's tweet i'll have you back right after the holidays ivan to go
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through this some more but i think you've laid out a pattern you just got to get nice to get her out
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um we got to get on top of this and like i said kurt olsen you guys know kurt we've had kurt on
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patrick and the team do it today um joe allen we have a cold open they signed an executive order and
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they did they did with closed press the muslim brotherhood has a few kinks in it laura loomer is
00:30:46.160
going to join us tomorrow alex jones is going to join us tomorrow laura's going to walk through
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the e the eo on the muslim brotherhood why it has a few air pockets and it needs to be kind of
00:30:56.060
reconciled it's a start it's a historic start but we got to close we got to close we got to stick the
00:31:01.160
landing on the muslim brotherhood also artificial intelligence i've warned you about the weapons
00:31:05.540
labs they did a they did a you know a ai and it was closed press i'm not i don't know why but
00:31:12.940
we're going to get to the bottom of it let's play the cold open the trump administration is pushing
00:31:17.540
to expand ai and federal scientific research yesterday president trump signed an executive
00:31:23.040
order launching the genesis mission the plan allows department of energy and national labs to
00:31:27.960
use ai while partnering with tech companies and universities yeah he signed an executive order
00:31:33.700
related to what's called the now genesis mission it brings together all of the 17 federal labs
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under the department of energy and partners them with private companies and supercharges all of
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these projects with artificial intelligence this is the one place in the world where you can bring
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together biological data national security data data for material science for chemistry all in one
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place under one roof where you can train models to accelerate scientific discovery knowledge grows
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faster than our ability to understand it trillions of data points a universe of information still
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unconnected now a new instrument emerges one capable not only of observing the universe but of understanding
00:32:18.920
it genesis mission will transform how science is done in america uniting our brightest minds most powerful
00:32:27.400
computers and vast scientific data into one living system for discovery built on artificial intelligence and
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quantum computing it will radically redefine the scale speed and purpose of scientific progress in america
00:32:45.160
look i understand the scientific process we're all for you want to do it but i don't know why we're
00:32:49.160
selling chips to the advanced chips to the chinese and you got uh you got the arms dealer jensen wong and
00:32:54.600
you got lutnik in his crowd that are trying to force to sell these chips if we don't we're not in an arms race we're
00:33:00.600
only in the arms race if we want to be in arms race we don't have to sell them any arms none how about this how about
00:33:06.600
zero for the chinese communist party now let's get to the weapons labs joe allen succinctly tell me because this
00:33:13.960
kind of scares me one living organism that's going to know all and be all um what are we doing here sir
00:33:21.400
well steve yesterday president trump signed the executive order to launch the genesis mission
00:33:29.000
aside from the symbolic undertones of the name genesis this is under the department of energy and it's
00:33:38.280
being held as a kind of manhattan project for ai acceleration in the sciences the ultimate objective
00:33:46.200
is to create scientific foundation models ais that are specifically trained on what have previously
00:33:55.160
been kind of cloistered and unpublished data sets and studies under the department of energy so the 17
00:34:03.640
national laboratories will open up their data sets to train artificial intelligence and the objective too
00:34:11.400
is to have ai agents that can run autonomously to conduct experiments and presumably they share many
00:34:21.160
of the ambitions of the frontier labs they would eventually have ais that perhaps could formulate
00:34:28.520
novel hypotheses now underneath this is that you have five basic objectives to accelerate biotechnology
00:34:39.000
to accelerate materials development to accelerate semiconductor production and deployment and also to
00:34:47.480
accelerate quantum computing and nuclear technology okay okay okay the last time i looked those five
00:34:56.360
were kind of a variation of the china of the of the um the chinese communist parties uh you know 2020
00:35:03.720
manufacturing 2025 the 10 industries they want to dominate the top five and those are close to
00:35:09.160
it drive you to a thing called the singularity do they not sir yes absolutely i mean this is right now
00:35:16.600
very much in the nascent phase for the first 90 days they'll simply be assessing what hardware what computing
00:35:23.800
facilities are relevant beyond that the software but uh within a year they intend to have fully
00:35:30.840
fully autonomous experiments being run under this system now this is already happening in the private
00:35:36.440
sector steve i'll give you one really good example ginkgo bioworks who was so integral to the
00:35:42.280
biden eo on the cancer moonshot ginkgo bioworks runs bio foundries right so you have
00:35:50.120
these foundries that basically run autonomously mutating microbes and assessing whether or not the
00:35:56.760
mutations are effective and whatnot some of these bio foundries are right now under the direction of
00:36:04.200
gpt-5 so you already have this integration of artificial intelligence with autonomous laboratories
00:36:12.120
that are conducting experiments what the genesis mission would ultimately yield would be that across
00:36:18.360
all of the different sectors i just mentioned and a lot relating to of course national security and weapons
00:36:24.440
vaccines okay uh in those 90 days what i would propose and we'll we'll stick our nose in this
00:36:31.400
is we come up with the equity package you the citizens of the united states own those the government
00:36:37.320
of the united states owns those weapons labs and some of the most famous labs in the world the national
00:36:41.000
labs they call them now if we're going to do all this i'd like to know what we're actually paying for
00:36:45.160
and these guys on the equity we have to have an equity package i'm gonna toss out there just as an
00:36:49.800
initial idea for david sachs and mark andreessen to get their arms around 50 we own 50 of every one of
00:36:56.840
the ai companies the american citizens own them and i don't mean the government i mean the shares get
00:37:01.480
popped out to the american citizens because once again once again they remember they they came up with
00:37:07.480
this labs thing immediately when the chinese did deep seek and they go oh my god it's a sputnik
00:37:12.840
moment we're in an arms race with the chinese communist party so what do we do we sell them
00:37:17.800
as many advanced chips as possible or give them to the uae so that they can they can be a wholesaler
00:37:23.000
and then resell them no no no no no no no no we we gotta understand this entire cycle the american
00:37:30.040
people are being asked to secure debt the american people being asked to give access to their weapons
00:37:35.080
labs to train these hey that's fine maybe it's good it could it sounds like a wonderful thing what's
00:37:40.280
the payment to the american people american citizens and how own how much equity so in the 90 days they
00:37:45.480
assess assess what the ownership of the american people and the opening bid is 50 joe we got to
00:37:51.720
bounce uh you're gonna be with us a lot uh tell us uh where people go to get your uh get all your
00:37:58.120
information on joe bot well i tell you steve i couldn't agree more as far as the 50 equity for american
00:38:05.240
people this emphasis on the machine should definitely be shared by or redirected towards
00:38:11.240
human beings as in human americans uh i would actually just direct the audience to frontier
00:38:19.160
magazine by chance i have an article in frontier which goes into the history of the nuclear project
00:38:27.000
the manhattan project near my hometown uh oak ridge tennessee i'm from near there the title is how my
00:38:33.960
hometown got eugenicized and you can see it's a print magazine it's absolutely beautiful uh ben
00:38:42.040
braddock here with the cover story his trip yeah this is the one that glenn beck and his team over
00:38:48.360
at the blaze started is that it is that frontier yes peter giedel is the uh executive editor and
00:38:54.920
uh james pulos of course is involved uh ben braddock with the cover story and they invited me to write
00:39:00.440
about how my hometown got wrecked by the technological revolution so you can actually find a link right
00:39:06.520
at the top of my social media at j o e b o t x y z and if you still love print culture posse this is
00:39:16.120
a beautiful beautiful edition volume five volume four no no we we love magazines we talk about maggots
00:39:23.800
creating uh being you know creating uh art and creating uh uh uh you know these uh alternative
00:39:29.720
medias go check this out right now where they go to frontier just to check out the entire magazine
00:39:33.720
because i want people to do that it's really a spectacular effort um because it's a kind of a
00:39:40.040
convoluted link i don't have it at the top of my head but if you go to my social media at j o e b o t
00:39:45.880
x y z on x or on getter uh there's a link right there you can subscribe you can read it in digital
00:39:52.840
form but again i really recommend get the print edition so many excellent articles in here so many
00:39:57.800
great photographs brother love you uh look i'll talk to you tonight hopefully get you back on
00:40:03.400
tomorrow maybe before you take off joe allen the joe allen thank you steve the genesis mission okay
00:40:10.920
i get the symbolism uh also about the singularity i get that too get a drill down on this looks
00:40:16.520
very interesting very exciting the american people love it they want to own 50 of it because
00:40:21.080
they deserve they're putting up the money raymond ibrahim my favorite now brother it's a it's a
00:40:28.120
three book series you've been with us since 2019 since we started the show with your first book
00:40:33.720
sword and scimitar then you came out with the classic i think in 22 defenders of the west of which
00:40:39.640
i had a small part in and the fact that i helped uh raymond decide the final cover art and then you've
00:40:46.760
come up with a blockbuster about the warrior marks two swords of christ talk to us today particularly
00:40:52.120
i had you and joe back to back because of these two executive orders signed uh yesterday you're
00:40:57.080
you're an expert on the muslim brotherhood and you've been a great writer about the history of
00:41:01.320
christianity in islam and to be blunt about it your histories and third part being the two swords of
00:41:08.200
christ is about the really the warrior kind of uh interactions between christianity and islam
00:41:14.680
since the founding of islam is it not sir yeah absolutely steve that's exactly what it's about
00:41:19.880
i think uh the important point of the two swords of christ the new book is that it literally looks
00:41:24.600
at the two swords of christ the verse uh where where the disciples after christ tells them sell
00:41:30.040
your cloak and buy a garment he who has no sword and they say looks look lord here are two swords and
00:41:35.480
he says that's enough now according to modern day christian theologians that verse means absolutely
00:41:40.840
nothing because it doesn't mean anything about swords and so forth but for the medieval christians
00:41:45.880
and especially the crusaders it actually meant that there are two swords to be used against two
00:41:50.760
sorts of evil spiritual evil which modern day christians still acknowledge but also physical
00:41:56.360
secular material corporeal evil human evil human agency and so that's how they understood it and that's
00:42:02.520
why i think it's ironic and people will be surprised when they look at read the book that
00:42:06.600
it actually this logic actually showed you how the most pious men these men were monks essentially
00:42:13.080
okay were also the most militant at the same time and there was there was no contradiction between the
00:42:18.600
twain in their minds because they understood that they what they were doing was in defense of christ christendom
00:42:24.920
christ's body literally the the church and um they saw they were regularly martyred and they were seen
00:42:31.000
as martyrs so i think it's going to be a very different take for most how most modern
00:42:35.960
day christians including of the doormat variety as i've dubbed them who believe that you know their
00:42:40.840
job is just to be a doormat and be walked all over because that's what christ apparently wants
00:42:45.000
to see that no you actually had these extremely pious religion christian men who are also more
00:42:51.080
militant than any other uh character from history and as far as the muslim brotherhood and what we're
00:42:55.800
talking about today i think it's the continuity is really remarkable when you see yeah hang on hang on
00:43:02.040
we're going to take a short break raymond ibrahim on the other side here's your host steven k man
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we're going to have more about uh uh artificial intelligence on tomorrow's show make sure that
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00:44:03.240
they're so timely they talk about history but they make history present right now we just designate
00:44:08.040
the muslim or started to designate we didn't do it the muslim brotherhood a terrorist organization
00:44:13.160
texas has done it we're in a fight now as you know and have chronicled the truth they believed in a
00:44:18.600
church militant why is a church militant and two warrior monk orders from i don't know a thousand
00:44:26.600
years ago why are they relevant today and you need to read this book if you want to understand the
00:44:31.480
situation situation we're in today sir steve without the church militant christianity would have died out
00:44:38.200
a long time ago and uh you know i have a quote i think in defenders of the west from teddy roosevelt
00:44:42.920
president who says exactly that he says he basically says if the europeans the christians
00:44:48.200
of europe had not fought back he specifically names the muslims and he names all the long centuries
00:44:53.000
christianity would have been snuffed out and that's what most modern day christians don't realize
00:44:57.560
especially those who sort of you know poo poo the modern day crusaders or the crusaders of history and
00:45:03.000
say they weren't real christians if it wasn't for all the blood that they'd spilled on behalf of
00:45:07.400
christendom there would be no christianity to be honest with you and that's very self-evident when you realize
00:45:11.800
that three quarters of the christian world was conquered and swallowed up till this very day by
00:45:16.920
islam and i'm speaking of course of the older richer more profound uh region where christendom
00:45:22.920
was located and that would be north africa in the middle east um you know all that was left was rome in
00:45:28.200
the west but constantinople alexandria jerusalem and antioch were all swallowed up by islam and it
00:45:34.040
continued century after century and so that's what gave rise you know these people weren't militants by
00:45:39.400
nature they really they were monks think about the hospitalers for example their whole life was to be
00:45:45.080
hospice workers and serving pilgrims and helping them and taking care of their medical needs and
00:45:50.280
feeding them and giving them their beds but at the same time they also learned that the only way to
00:45:54.840
really help the pilgrims was to go on the offense and preempt what was going to happen which is an
00:45:59.720
islamic attack on these pilgrims who were coming to europe so they had no problem wedding you know
00:46:05.080
christian theology with militancy and and not just them actually this goes all the way back remember
00:46:10.360
to augustine um and so many other i quote a lot extensively saint bernard of clervaux who's really
00:46:16.520
the spiritual father of all military orders and you know he gives you all the verses and he shows you
00:46:23.000
the militancy behind them it's not just the old testament by the way as we saw with the two swords
00:46:27.320
of christ and luke um so i think uh if modern day christians like i said i call them doormats and
00:46:33.080
of course christianity is teaches love and peace and forgiveness and tolerance but it's being pulled
00:46:37.880
out of context as if that's all there is to it what's great about christianity christianity is that
00:46:42.920
is that it tempered with violence but it still kept you know the necessary forms of violence and justice
00:46:49.240
such as just war theory which all of course fused into what we know as chivalry and that's what made
00:46:54.520
it really great but now we have this kind of mood where oh you can't do anything you have to be a
00:46:58.200
doormat and so forth okay okay i'm announcing we're going to do a complete hour with raymond to go
00:47:04.200
through his whole three-part arc of his story of these three books and give special attention to the
00:47:09.800
military orders the two swords of christ everybody go where they go to order it right now raymond
00:47:14.680
where they go to your site for your writings and to order your books thanks steve well they can get
00:47:19.320
it on amazon today's the release date actually so they can if they order it now probably on amazon
00:47:23.480
they'll get it maybe in a day or two and from any other online stores uh my magic i doubt barnes and
00:47:29.160
nobles is gonna have it uh even though it's a bestseller but um and also my website raymond
00:47:34.440
ibrahim.com has links to various books and you can also get signed copies from there
00:47:41.080
we're gonna do an hour uh special with raymond next week raymond ibrahim thank you uh thank you so
00:47:46.280
much brother appreciate and love the book already just fantastic want everybody to get it particularly
00:47:50.920
if you got a young man in your life give it to him understand this church militant tage we only
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