Episode 4954： Special Session On Redistricting In Indiana;
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Summary
In this episode, we discuss the latest in the ongoing investigation into former Sen. Mark Kelly and the comments he allegedly made about women in the military. We also hear from California Gov. Gavin Newsom and former prosecutor Tish Sheinfeld.
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FBI and Justice Department officials are working to arrange interviews with six Democratic lawmakers who appeared in a video advising service members not to follow illegal orders.
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The video enraged President Trump, who posted on social media last Friday that the lawmakers, all of whom have previously served in the military or U.S. intelligence, should be arrested.
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He also accused them of seditious behavior punishable by death.
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The four members of the House who appeared in the video, Jason Crow, Chris Deluzio, Maggie Goodlender and Chrissy Houlihan, released a joint statement yesterday accusing the president of using the FBI as a tool to intimidate or and harass members of Congress.
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They also defend their actions, writing no amount of intimidation or harassment will ever stop us from doing our jobs and honoring our Constitution.
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This comes as Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth is accelerating his investigation into Senator Mark Kelly, now directing the U.S. Navy to launch a review of the lawmaker.
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In a memo posted to social media, Hegseth orders the Secretary of the Navy to look into what he calls, quote, potentially unlawful comments made by Kelly.
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Hegseth then asked the Navy Secretary, a former businessman with no prior military experience, to report any findings by no later than December 10th.
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Kelly's comments in question were, of course, part of that message to service members, reminding them of their obligation simply to refuse illegal orders.
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First man, you asked, I think the most emotionally important question, I want to start with you.
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I was a prosecutor in Oakland for seven years, and where justice was warranted and mercy was warranted, I showed it.
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And where, you know, a stiff punishment was warranted because somebody got hurt, I saw it.
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And I will not be a governor that tolerates the violence against women in our state, period.
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Now, as it relates to the issue of trans kids, particularly in sports, men, in women's spaces, harassing, you said it wasn't a thing, 14 times you said it wasn't a thing.
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So I need you to show all the women of California that you're going to protect us.
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Are there going to be men allowed in the women's room anymore?
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Are you against men in women's locker rooms and sports?
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I don't want men harassing you in women's locker rooms.
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There are 45 women and there are 45 men in the women's prisons right now, raping them, picking them out like chicken.
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The trans men are not women and they're raping women.
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So I don't care if you're on the Democrat side, the Republican side.
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And I'm here to let everyone know that this is happening.
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If you want to be governor, I have millions of people behind me, black people, who they're using our civil rights to push this s**t.
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If you want to be the governor, you need to do something about it because I promise you this, I will not be the last to see of Tish Heine.
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There are no trans kids, there are just children. Stop transforming children. No one can make
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a decision that young. When I was 12, I would have transformed. It's wrong, it's wrong, it's abuse.
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Don't trans children. It's abuse. Trans kids. There's no such thing. There's only men and women. Use your brain. Stop with this malarkey.
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Jonathan, just to unpack this briefly, the reason that these six members of Congress felt that it was appropriate, maybe necessary, to briefly remind members of the military that they should not obey illegal orders
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is because the Trump administration, Secretary Hegseth, back in February, essentially moved to neuter the legal advice at the Pentagon that commanders depend on.
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They fired the top three judge adjutant generals who had the military lawyer group, which had the effect of intimidating all of the lawyers in the Pentagon.
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So there was nobody left to say to a commander who asked for legal advice, I believe that order is illegal.
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I believe that, you know, you need to look carefully at that general or admiral. Those people are gone.
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So quite properly to me, these members of Congress who have extensive, you know, admirable military service,
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said that the simplest thing possible, which is people in the military swear an oath to the Constitution, not to a president.
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And they have an obligation not to obey orders that are illegal.
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There were no lawyers left to give them that advice at the Pentagon.
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If there had been, I'm sure they wouldn't have made the statement.
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And I think simple truth is people in the military owe thanks to lawmakers who care enough about proper functioning in the military to speak out and say,
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you don't obey illegal orders, which is simple.
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The idea that that somehow is seditious, reminding people of what the Constitution says is sedition.
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Pray for our enemies, because we're going medieval on these people.
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Here's the time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
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I know you've tried to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
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And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
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I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
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Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
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If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
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It's Wednesday, 26th, November, year of early, 2025, the eve of Thanksgiving.
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Always one of our favorite shows today, this morning and this afternoon.
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People don't look to the judge of Africa general on this stuff.
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Just recall him to active duty and let's start.
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Let's show these guys that we're serious about this.
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and convene a court-martial that, I don't know, sits on Monday.
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What you guys see, Tish Hyman right there is standing up.
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Ignatius, who is the comms department of the CIA,
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Works for the Langley Bugle, heretofore called the Washington Post.
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You know, all that mumbo-jumbo, you know, that spin.
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You know, Slawwell is now going to run for governor of California.
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I've got to tell you, I think Tish Hyman ought to throw her hat in the ring.
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So, Dave Bratt, we've got a lot to get through,
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particularly this incredible leak by the Central Intelligence Agency on Steve Whitcoff.
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Your sense of where we are, Dave, you've got too much mumbo-jumbo
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I think Indiana's getting the word on the redistricting.
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And now it's time to have – we've got to look very clear at what's going on.
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Clarity and action are the coin of the realm right now, sir.
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Today we celebrate and give thanks to God tomorrow, Thanksgiving,
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And so perhaps people aren't even aware of the basic numbers, right?
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There's a million to two million dead boys, dead and injured boys,
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And these CIA deep state people have the nerve to try and spin this thing
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to preserve war, to preserve their own power of the deep state.
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but if we get a detente with Russia and then we get peace with Russia
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and then we get, you know, some relationship with Russia
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and then, you know, God forbid, from the deep state's point of view,
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we become friends with Russia, a massive, you know,
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A detente and a friendship between the United States and Russia
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We, the U.S., did a coup d'etat in 14 on Ukraine.
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We've moved, you know, after James Baker III promised
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We said, no, we're not going to move to the east.
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We're going to, you know, we're going to basically honor the status quo.
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17 countries later, Ukraine is the last buffer zone left, right?
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Mearsheimer and you four years ago, doesn't matter how many years ago,
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When we're proclaiming a Monroe Doctrine and security requirements
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that you're going to, you know, put weapon systems
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and U.S. and NATO troops on the border of Russia,
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They want perpetual war to maintain their power.
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They also don't, okay, okay, they also don't want two Christian entities,
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and they don't want the United States of America
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and they don't want us to partner with another deeply Christian nation,
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And don't get me wrong, the KGB are bad hombres, right?
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But we got bad hombres, we got people as bad as the KGB
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The CIA and what these guys are doing, it's sick.
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What they did to Witkoff and to try to break this thing up,
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We should be kicking down doors, okay, and rolling people up.
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Those six, the seditious six, I don't know why we went to December 10th.
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They're going to be cute and get in the middle of the chain of command for Trump.
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And let's, in fact, tell the flag officers no long Thanksgiving weekend.
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Friday you're going to convene a court-martial for him.
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And let's roll and let's get a verdict by Sunday.
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And let's go to Leavenworth and throw him in prison by Monday.
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And then the other five are going to wet themselves and then start rolling them up.
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The plan is you have a devoutly Christian nation in Russia who was our ally.
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They lost 25 million people, soldiers, fighting the Wehrmacht.
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And who knows if we'd even do it with just the United Kingdom and the United States.
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The Spanish were on their side, claimed neutrality.
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All of the Norwegians, the Swedes, all of those guys were on their side.
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NATO today, all the leadership didn't lift a finger except for the Poles that helped us out when and where they could.
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So remember, we're going against our traditional ally.
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Oh, by the way, the guys that stopped the Ottoman Turks, stopped Napoleon, stopped Hitler.
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I think I want to be in business with those guys.
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Not these feckless, hapless, atheistic, who are being overrun by Islam.
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They can't sell a 30-year bond because nobody knows who's going to be in charge in 30 years.
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And maybe the Muslims don't want to be charged interest, so they're going to stiff you on the payment.
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It's time now to look, see what we see, and start taking action, action, action.
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He's going on, what is it, Jimmy Kimmel or Colbert, one of the shows last night, talking more smack?
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Recall this guy today, and let's convene a court-martial Friday morning, 0800, and then have him in Leavenworth, 0800 on Monday morning.
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You, you, you and Natalie hosted this show and hosted with Navarro and Bess and all these
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But now that I'm back, you're not grabbing the mic.
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Yeah, no, when you rip off all your historical stuff, I don't want to be interrupting.
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I just added a few footnotes to the, to the, to the Don of Oxford there.
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But yeah, on Thanksgiving also, you know, I went over to Ukraine.
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I explained to the, I met with the leaders, the Jewish leaders, the Ukrainian leaders,
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the Catholic leaders, the heads of all the churches there.
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They're all, they're mainly Orthodox Christian.
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And so on Thanksgiving and every day, remember, we need to pray for peace.
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They're just being used by this deep state apparatus.
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And as you said, the CIA piece and our state department for years and years and years, it's
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The young people, I'm staying with some young people upstairs in Atlanta, and they really
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They're finding out the truth, what's going on in this world.
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And they are not happy that they've been abused as well by this same group of power mongers.
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Can you imagine, right, the $17 trillion we spent on war over the last couple decades,
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And then you have the left and these, you know, seditious six that say we're moderates.
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They vote for the $7 trillion budget, the $2 trillion deficits.
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The Republican Party needs to be taken to task big time.
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The fact that there's no messaging and no legislation coming out of the House or Senate
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on these issues, because that's one way, other than Trump, Trump's the only megaphone
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It's on purpose, because they don't want the mega agenda.
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They don't care if they win the House, lose the House.
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You get rid of Trump, you get rid of mega quicker.
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I call it the Duma to mock them, not because I want it to be the Duma, but they're obviously
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And they're glazing him when they come, oh, we're Trump, we're Trump.
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We can't even start the process to get Bosberg impeached.
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It has to be the Warren Posse and Article 3 and all that.
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So the Republican Party, I mean, Tucker said it last night.
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They're just a shell on themselves, but they are very crafty and cunning in that they're
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And somehow President Trump still plays along with it.
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I think we're coming to a point in time he's going to see, he's going to become very clear
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And then when Trump pivots, it's going to be a whole different deal.
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No, because I'm going to give you a perfect example.
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He's back home with the in-laws trying to spend a peaceful Thanksgiving.
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And this is another example of the Republican establishment.
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All of a sudden, they don't want to do redistricting, right?
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It was hard enough before, but now they're actually, they're tougher to move than the Democrats.
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Is this true, Alex, that they actually are going to call everybody back, I guess, for a special
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So last we spoke, we were sort of on the ropes.
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Obviously, there was a lot of reverse movement against us on this effort.
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And we've got to obviously run through the tape.
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But the House is convening, and we've got the votes 9-0 out of the State House.
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And then the following week, the State Senate reversed course.
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And now they're planning on bringing people back together.
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Of course, they're not publicly confirming whether they've got the votes or not.
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But of course, I don't know if they think that they would be, you know, going back on
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canceling and then doing it back if they don't have the vote.
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That's the key focal point is that State Senate, we've got to keep the pressure up, positive
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I mean, obviously, the president threatened the primary of them.
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I'm sure that's what is driving this, to be frank about it.
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But this is real serious, because if we're talking 9-0, we're not talking 8-1 as of right
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So we've got to keep that going, because that's the two seats that we need.
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Do you have a sense that we're getting now more people focus?
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I know in Virginia, and I've been talking to John Fredericks nonstop, because John knows
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Virginia better than anybody about, they seem to be just leaning on their shovels, waiting
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Hopefully, the courts to bail them out on this monumental referendum they're going to have
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But do you get a sense around the country that the message getting out there, that President
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Trump is now very engaged in this, and this is something that's a must-do, not a nice
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I think that because of the Democrat escalations, of course, it's one thing when it's sort of
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a distant problem, and people are happy-happy, and they live in their nice Republican state.
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And the Democrats are running full force at this thing.
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And we stand to lose seats in some of these states, which I spoke about, right?
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There's literally no excuse for any Republican, anyone that calls himself a Republican, from
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not manning the ramparts and pushing this thing, not just back, but forward, of course,
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So in those key states, and I feel optimistic about the Supreme Court on VRA.
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And so if we keep the pressure up, we're looking at those 10 seats, of course.
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But a lot of sort of unknowns on litigation, whether it be Virginia, Utah, some other folks.
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They're looking to steal a seat in Staten Island.
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It's the reason it's so powerful is because of this audience.
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We're breaking it down in kind of the critical path.
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Clearly, in President Trump, I think you're seeing pivoting, best in pivoting.
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There's people, there's talking in the White House, not just messaging, but additional
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But in the process of doing that, the redistricting wars have to be won now.
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Just like if Alex de Grasse hadn't come to the war room in 21 and started talking about
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how Florida was going, you know, was going to just leave.
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The legislature was just going to leave and no changes.
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We wouldn't have gotten those, I think, 8 in the 10 pickup that we hold the House by today.
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I don't want anybody to get their eyes off and start thinking downrange at 26.
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Right now, you've got to think, get in the trenches.
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They're the highest party because they set the predicate for what the battlefield is going
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And obviously, President Trump and his people are getting, the folks are going to be getting
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a real action plan to hit this, which I think you agree, Alex, we need to do.
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People could hear that Indiana, they'll say there's some movement, and particularly the
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Because you're kind of the social media account where people go for breaking news on all this.
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Yeah, Steve, I think it was a huge group effort with the posse, obviously the last go around
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And then I'm at Degrassi, but let me just say something quick, Steve, because an Emerson
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poll just popped out in Tennessee's special election.
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So if you're in the posse there, get out, get your list, get five people, because they've
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Republicans up by two points in a seat that President Trump won by 22 points, according
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to an independent poll that just released in the last hour.
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I mean, Dems, Kamala was just on the ground there.
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But besides that, she's perfect as a congressman from there.
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Give us a minute on that, because you're right.
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And if the Democrats are able to pick this one up, they will be banging the drum.
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Like you said, President Trump, it was a blowout.
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I mean, it's 22 points as, you know, Tennessee is as maggie as you can get.
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But the reality is this thing's tightened up, particularly they've been throwing money,
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and they've brought every big person down there.
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Once again, just give us a quick synopsis of it before you punch.
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Yeah, I mean, the big thing, Steve, is like Democrats have gone all in, right?
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You know, our people are just not, but I mean, our people, not the posse, but sort of the
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wider, you know, average Republican voter, right?
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They are really manically focused on doing all they can.
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If we let this one slip up, the implications going into the midterms are a disaster, because
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you're going to see Democrat money flood in like you can imagine.
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This thing will start slipping away from us, despite even the redistricting war.
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If you're in Tennessee, if you're out, if you're not even in Tennessee, there's lots
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If you know people in there, of course, the Democrats are total lunatic.
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Who's ever going to appear with Kamala Harris is obviously psychotic.
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But that's what we're dealing with, of course, Steve.
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You can't take anything for granted nowadays, redistricting anything, special elections
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Dave Brett, you got some ideas about the big money that's going to be pouring in here
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And in addition to that problem, right, the Republican leadership only pays attention to
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After COVID, CEOs, conservatives wouldn't dare speak a word in public.
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Still, about 70% of the Fortune 500 CEOs are on the Democrat and left.
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The trillionaire class is all Democrat or on the left.
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But the major point here is Republicans are Cub Scouts, as usual.
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They know they can oppose us on Obamacare, health care, subsidies, pharmaceutical costs.
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And the Republicans will be like, OK, but could you give us a little bit?
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You know, and the Democrats, if you oppose their agenda, you get crushed.
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And one sentence out of place as a CEO, and you're on the evening news, and you're a crush,
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But the RINOs and the Republican establishment and the think tanks and the conservative Inc.
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They're not going to attack anybody because they want to still be in the club.
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They want to be 20% that can go hang out on Wall Street and do that.
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And real quick, I just wanted to add, it's not only money, but the Republican leadership
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You don't get a bill unless the speaker says you get a bill.
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You don't get any money from your own Republican teammates.
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If you vote Republican, you don't get any money.
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The Republicans were in on redistricting me, so I would lose my seat.
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We'll put our guy in, right, that wants to spend money and bankrupt the kids.
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Now that person is the governor of Virginia, and she gets her ducks in a row and is really
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If she wins the 10, by the way, if she goes 10-1 from the 6-5, she's going to be a Newsom's
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Sean Davis is about the lead story on the Federalist.
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I'm going to talk to the writer and hopefully get him on the evening show.
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But we got Joy Pullman on here for an incredible article.
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Joy, I'm going to read the headline, Exclusive, War Department Battles Internal Resistance to
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Reinstate 86 Soldiers Ejected by COVID Shot Mandate.
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Please tell me that now that Pete said Secretary of War and President Trump's the Commander-in-Chief,
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how do we still have these heroes that said they weren't going to be vaxxed?
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And how are we allowing internal resistance, ma'am?
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Well, I do think, you know, the Trump team may have underestimated the amount of bureaucracy
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that they would have to fight and the dug-in nature of them.
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But I just want to kind of go back and do a quick timeline here.
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So, you know, President Trump comes into office in January.
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One of his very early executive orders says, anyone who left the military, the service over
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the COVID shot mandate, you get to come back in with full back pay, with full benefits,
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with basically making you as whole as possibly can be.
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So that in April, you know, Defense Secretary, or War Secretary Pete Hegseth had to issue kind
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Basically, nothing was happening at that point.
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And then we got all the way to September, August, September, and the numbers come out.
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And only 13 of, and my calculation, according to sources who paid attention to this, pretty
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much all of the 95,000 people who depleted the military during the Biden years, leading
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to the greatest, you know, personnel crisis in military history, as well as, you know, people
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pointed out to me, the most ethical people in the military leaving over this, because they
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are the ones who have the strongest conscience.
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You know, so we depleted, Biden really, really undermined not only our military, but really
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the ethical, the character quality of the people inside the military, deeply depleted
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And so, but so the numbers came out that out of the, about those 95,000 people who, you
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know, most of them didn't say they were leaving over the COVID shot mandate.
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They didn't re-up if they could, because they were, saw that their, you know, their colleagues,
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the, were getting punished, you know, for, for, for saying, yes, I, I want an exemption.
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You know, please give me my constitutional conscience rights and give me this exemption.
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So 13 out of those 95,000 had gotten through the reinstatement process in September.
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And, and so, you know, basically that called for another, really moving around some personnel.
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So really, I think, you know, the, Pete Hegseth, his team, Undersecretary Tony Tata, he was
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He finally got through, you know, we have a Republican Congress and they didn't confirm
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So he wasn't able to be put onto this until September.
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So he immediately started meeting with people who had been trying to get back into the military
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and were having resistance from the service branches.
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You know, the same people who drum these people out of service are the ones now tasked with
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So that process is going exactly as you would expect.
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So throughout September, October, and now November, you know, the Hegseth team has moved
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people who used to be on the outs, who had been pushed out of the military over this mandate.
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Now they've reinstated them and put them in charge of not only accelerating the process
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of increasing the reinstatements, but also doing a full investigation of the COVID years and
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And because one of the questions that I asked Undersecretary Tata is, you know, look, there's
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people who have had very clear orders directly from the commander-in-chief, the president,
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you know, from their boss, Pete Hegseth, and they have not been moving on very clear direct
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How are you going to hold those people accountable?
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And he said, we are going to be doing an investigation and they'll make recommendations to us, naming the
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names and telling us the actions that they had done that may have been illegal under the Constitution,
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and with that refusal and that pressure against these wonderful heroes who really stood for
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every American's constitutional rights to live out our conscience and our beliefs and
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speak and act with freedom in the United States of America.
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Joy, I just want to go back to something you said that was very important.
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This is one of the first things that President Trump did, right?
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Among the very first, when we were days of thunder and flaying the zone, this was something
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And remember, he drove the whole program to get the vaccine, but he was adamantly opposed
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I mean, President Trump, because he's got the way of the world, he's trying to stop wars,
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build the economy, stop the invasion of the southern border.
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When he signs that executive order, he thinks it's done.
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And what's shocking here, it's one of the very first things he does.
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And here we are in November, and now we have 95,000 out.
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And oh, by the way, they're going to have to start an investigation because the resistance
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has just told the commander in chief to go screw himself.
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And it's just what you said earlier in the show talking about the Republicans, right?
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The bureaucrats have this mindset of, we'll just wait them out.
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These are people who essentially have government syndicates for life.
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So I have sources who are talking to me about some of the people who are the roadblocks
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One of them, my name in this story, Stephanie Miller.
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She's in charge of all the promotions within the military.
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Under Obama, she was his military-wide diversity and inclusion director, right?
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So that's the lady who's in control of exceptions, which is people's promotions, this whole process
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And I think that, obviously, she can be reassigned, but firing her, she is under the civil service
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And that's one of the things that if we had a Republican Congress that wasn't a pile of
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crap, that actually used their power on behalf of their voters, we wouldn't have those civil
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And people who literally are insurrectionists defying the orders of the elected government
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over them, who is their constitutional and legal supervisor to give them commands, those
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And right now, they have to kind of play this song and dance and put very high-level personnel
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on it just to move a few people through the process because the corruption within the
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Department of War is so deep and so difficult to get rid of because of that slow civil service
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and other sort of bureaucratic problems that they have there.
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But you've come to the same conclusion, and you cover this every day.
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You've come to the same conclusion we have, that the apparatus, not just the deep state,
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but the administrative state on top of it, is just saying, hey, Trump's a passing summer
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We're going to hunker down, give a couple inches of what they need to keep us from getting
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terminated or coming in here with a blowtorch and just wait this guy out and wait his team
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And I mean, we're talking about people who have had 30, 40 years in the military, right?
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You know, Stephanie Miller, she was given an award under President Biden that gave her
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multiple tens of thousands of dollars in additional pay above her very high current
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So these are people who basically are making a very, very good living for themselves.
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She's married, by the way, to a defense industry and pharmaceutical industry lobbyist.
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So her family, her personal finances benefit from the COVID shot mandate, right?
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You know, so, you know, the companies paying her husband made billions upon billions of
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dollars from forcing all of the soldiers to get this mandate in violation of our Constitution.
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There are thousands, you know, the military is the biggest employer in the country, tens
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of thousands of people like her, not just in the military, but throughout the federal
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I mean, I wish Congress would get in on the action, you know, because this really needs
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to be put a bead on and it needs to be taken care of.
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And what's the point of having power if you don't do anything with it?
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Joy, what is your social media and your coordinates?
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Where do people track your writings and what you're putting up on Twitter?
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Well, the best place to go is just, you know, search my name on the Federalist, Joy Pullman,
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But I'm also on X at Joy Pullman, two L's, two N's.
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I know you're back home for Thanksgiving holiday.
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Very powerful story and very powerful hit right here.
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Well, thank you from the Midwest and all the farmers here who love your show.
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The men and women, the heartland of our country.
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Joe Allen, we want to make sure that those folks are the ones that are taken care of when
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I'm feeling a jobs apocalypse coming everywhere.
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We got a couple of minutes here and then the whole next segment is yours.
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Two former congressmen, Chris Stewart and Brad Carson, have launched a pro-human pack.
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Their goal is to take on the influence of people like Greg Brockman, Mark Andreessen, Joe Lonsdale and their super PAC leading the future.
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They have roughly $100 million right now to cede to candidates who are pushing the big tech agenda.
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But one way or the other, they want to support candidates who are willing to stand up against big tech and are willing to stand up for just sensible regulations and guardrails put on AI.
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It was announced yesterday and depending on how much support they can get and what candidates are willing to stand up, it could be enormous.
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This entire fight right now over the moratorium being snuck into the NDAA or the supposed draft of the EO to do much the same.
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What they want to do is ensure that states have the right and the flexibility to craft their own laws.
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They want to see sensible child protection laws put in place.
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And, of course, on our side of this, they want to see strong export controls for chips going to China and other rivals.
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Hopefully, they'll support candidates that are willing to cut China off entirely on this.
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It's very important to understand the money that's flowing in this.
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The money is enormous in this fight, particularly in the moratorium.
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What they're going to try to do is buy us off of some intellectual property.
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Oh, we'll pay for the conservatives' intellectual property.
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You've got more regulations on nail salons on Capitol Hill than you have on the Frontier Labs.
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We're going to actually have someone that's traveled the world talking about Patriot Mobile in a little while,
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hopefully in this segment or maybe at the top of the hour.
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Remember, this is a group that supports, you know, they give a couple of million dollars a year minimum
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just to support some of these small groups fighting for Second Amendment, First Amendment, religious freedom to back.
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They believe in what you believe in, and the work they've done in Texas is unbelievable.
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972 Patriot, you're going to talk to somebody with an East Texas accent to talk about all their services.
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Make the switch today, but do it at 972 Patriot.
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They'll give you all the details on their Black Friday special.
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They're trying to slip this thing back into the NDAA.
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So they take a 9,000-page document that is a must-pass, like NDAA, the National Defense Authorization,
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That essentially gives the Berligarchs and the Frontier Labs total ability to do anything they want, anytime they want,
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with no looking over their shoulder, no saying, hey, you know, we got to, and you, we had the, you know,
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Megan Garcia on her horrible story about her son who committed suicide that was led on by one of these chatbots.
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And the team at Google that was spun out to the new company knew exactly what they were doing.
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And so these people are some of the worst people on earth.
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I'm not so sure the answer is having states do 50 different, you know, state requirements.
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But this is a forcing function to make people come to the table to have some, you know, some logical, some logical regulations here.
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What they don't want, what Ted Cruz and this crowd wants is they just run like total free birders, and that can't happen.
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Then you had the executive order, which I understand has put the National Labs, which were so central to the nuclear weapons,
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because these guys have been yelling they want to control them ever since Deep Sea came along.
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You put them in a whole-of-government approach, right, to make sure that we're at the cutting edge of pushing AI technology.
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Number one, you must deal with what we're doing with the Chinese Communist Party.
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They may have a couple of scientists and technologists that are great, but we're building it.
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And the chips, you know, Jason, or Jensen Wong, he's an arms dealer.
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These things right now are weapons just like the nuclear weapons were weapons, advanced AI.
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Remember, he's all, we don't care if China gets it, it's going to be fine.
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If a Chinese company wins, it's going to be fine.
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That may be how you think because you're an agent of influence for the Chinese Communist Party and an arms dealer.
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But that's not how normal people in this country think, so that's not going to happen.
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Also, in this executive order, we're going to have to talk about the financing.
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You're going to have to talk about the data centers, who's going to finance it, how it's going to be financed, where they're going to go.
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We're going to have it in every small town in America, and what are the American people going to own?
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Because I think in the 90-day analysis they do for the national labs or weapons labs working with AI and how this works out,
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which is a major effort like the Mercury program, right, like the space program or like the Marshall program,
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one of these whole of government, a whole of society.
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At some point in time, you've got to be thinking about, well, hang on, hang on.
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Do we just let a handful of these guys have companies that are worth a trillion dollars,
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and the average American who's on the hook is the full faith and credit of the United States
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and are paying the taxes to pay for the weapons lab?
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If you're going to finance things, you're going to have to get a taste.
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Now, you're going to see how patriotic they are.
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When you mention that, hey, some of your equity has got to come to taxpayers in this country, citizens,
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you'll see how red, white, and blue this crowd is, right?
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They will scream, holy hell, before they give you anything, right,
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because they're the most selfish, narcissistic, evil people on earth.
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Well, on the note of the moratorium, it's unclear what angle they're going to take,
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There's two major contradictions at the heart of this.
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The first is the push to make America first in AI, the golden age that we're promised.
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Well, simultaneously, you have people like David Sachs supporting chip exports to China.
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So if it's America first in AI, why would you supply your most important rival, China,
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with the hardware and capability of keeping up with you?
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Some would say that David Sachs would say, oh, well, that's because it will keep China dependent
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Well, they don't really have any other options.
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They only have U.S. hardware for the next few years.
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So if we're really intent on staying ahead of them, we don't want, we have no reason really at all
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I think that if anything, if you were to take a cynical point of view,
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what that does is it keeps our rival moving ahead.
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And so it provides a justification to keep the U.S. moving ahead to create powerful AI systems
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and to deploy them across every sector from the military down to the government,
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And then on the social level to have people basically addicted to everything from goon bots
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to groom bots provided by XAI and Meta and others.
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And there's no real safety standard or guardrails put in place at all.
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They don't have a clearly articulated list of federal standards that they're offering in place of this.
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You have Josh Hawley pushing forward child protection legislation at the national level.
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You have Josh Hawley pushing forward AI risk assessment legislation at the national level.
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But none of that is assured of going through anytime soon.
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States have the ability right now to put in regulations that can move much more quickly than the federal standards.
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States are acting and the moratorium would block that entirely, not to benefit the American people who need AI.
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We haven't needed it for the last quarter million years.
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It's to benefit the people producing and deploying it.
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No, there's a lot of a lot of work to be done here, but it has to be done now.
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I realize we'd have other things we want to focus on.
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This is one of the things that's the most important because it's going to be the direction of the country.
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So the Warren Posse's voice has to be heard and will be heard.
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But we've got some tough pick and shovel work to do, and we'll develop this, obviously, next week.
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Joe Allen, where can people get you, particularly over the holiday weekend, to get your insights in all of this?
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Go to at J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z on social media or JoeBot.X-Y-Z.
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And, Steve, on the note of the Genesis mission, I think the religious symbolism of calling it Genesis and the resonance.
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I'll tell you what, we'll get into that maybe tonight.