Bannon's War Room - Episode 4978： Globalists Descend On Qatar; Underwriting Terrorism In America

00:00:01.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:00:06.000 Pray for our enemies.

00:00:08.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:11.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:15.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:17.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:19.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:21.000 but you're not going to stop it. It's going to happen.

00:00:23.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:26.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:27.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:28.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:32.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:36.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:43.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff.

00:00:52.000 Welcome. It's Saturday 6, December in the year of early 2025.

00:00:56.000 A lot to get through today.

00:00:57.000 We've got General Mike Flynn, Laura Logan, Julie Kelly, and others.

00:01:01.000 But we're going to start in Doha, Qatar with Breitbart's chief political editor, Matt Boyle.

00:01:09.000 Matt, first off, what do you do? It's a little controversial.

00:01:12.000 They've been, they've been, they've been slamming.

00:01:14.000 Mark Levin, Tel Aviv Levin's been slamming Tucker for being a cutter.

00:01:19.000 But I noticed Don Junior's there.

00:01:22.000 Many, many senior members of the American political class are there to talk.

00:01:30.000 You're covering it.

00:01:31.000 You're actually doing main stage interviews.

00:01:33.000 What's the, what's the controversy?

00:01:36.000 Well, look, I mean, the, the, the, there, there are a lot of people out there that have questions about Qatar and things that they fund and their influence and so on and so forth.

00:01:46.000 I mean, the, you know, reasonable questions, I guess.

00:01:49.000 As for Tucker, obviously, Tucker's been a lightning rod as of late.

00:01:55.000 The, look, I, I'm friendly with Tucker.

00:01:59.000 I, I may see him this weekend.

00:02:01.000 I haven't seen him yet.

00:02:02.000 The, the, I'm a huge fan of his.

00:02:06.000 I owe a lot of my career start to Tucker.

00:02:09.000 I worked for him for three years at the beginning of my career as a journalist.

00:02:13.000 But, you know, I mean, the, there are some things he, he's done that I would do.

00:02:17.000 There are other things that I wouldn't.

00:02:19.000 It is what it is.

00:02:20.000 You know, Tucker is Tucker.

00:02:21.000 I'm me.

00:02:22.000 I, I also think Tucker should be able to interview who he wants to.

00:02:25.000 Right?

00:02:26.000 Like, so the, so I think that a lot of the controversies and whatnot around him are, are unfair.

00:02:34.000 But so I, I think that, you know, again, you've got certain people with a certain foreign policy worldview.

00:02:39.000 You know, I think that want to return to the old Bush way of doing things that are out there, you know, attacking anyone that would move away from that and, you know, move towards a future that President Trump, Vice President Vance, Secretary Rubio have laid out so brilliantly.

00:03:00.000 I think.

00:03:01.000 Why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why, why do they, look, I'm the most anti-Qatar guy around because I was the tip of the spear and trying to get it, trying to designate the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. 0.91

00:03:13.000 As you remember, the first administration, you know, they were, they were, they were, they were in our, they were in our grill.

00:03:20.000 People still talk about the embargo.

00:03:22.000 Yeah.

00:03:23.000 They still talk about the embargo.

00:03:25.000 Yeah.

00:03:26.000 But, but, but, but they came within 72 hours, the royal family and Qatar are being turfed out. 0.83

00:03:31.000 And clearly they decided on another strategy against UAE and against Saudi people should understand the Gulf Emirates are not exactly bosom buddies.

00:03:39.000 There's a lot of controversy.

00:03:41.000 Abbott just designated the care and the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organizations, which I think Saudi Arabia and UAE have already done, MBZ and MBS.

00:03:50.000 There's still a lot of questions about Qatar, but I don't know why they're singling out Tucker Carlson.

00:03:56.000 I mean, you're there.

00:03:58.000 Yeah.

00:03:59.000 Don Jr.'s there.

00:04:00.000 The Clintons are there.

00:04:01.000 There, there's kind of a all-star list of, not just Americans, you have people all over the world.

00:04:05.000 I think you've interviewed the, the head of, of, of Greece, but there's people from all over Europe.

00:04:11.000 Why are Ted Cruz and Tel Aviv Levin singling out Tucker?

00:04:16.000 I think they're going after Tucker because they don't like his foreign policy worldview.

00:04:21.000 And again, they want to, I think a lot of this is about 2028.

00:04:25.000 I think a lot of this is about trying to return the Republican Party back to the old Bush globalist ways of doing things.

00:04:32.000 When the day comes that President Trump's no longer the president, and they're plotting for that right now.

00:04:39.000 Right?

00:04:40.000 Like, so I think that's why they're doing that.

00:04:41.000 And by the way, I would add that in addition to Tucker, there's several people from the Trump administration here.

00:04:46.000 Right?

00:04:47.000 Like Matt Whitaker, who's the U.S. Ambassador to NATO, is here.

00:04:49.000 Alex Brucewitz, who is one of the top, President Trump's top outside advisors on the campaign stuff and runs X Strategies.

00:04:56.000 Young Bright Mind, I think, is here.

00:04:59.000 There are several other administration officials here.

00:05:03.000 I believe Ambassador Barak, who is the U.S. Ambassador to Turkey, is here.

00:05:07.000 So there, there, there is a strong presence from the United States here.

00:05:12.000 In addition to that, as you mentioned, I interviewed on stage at the Doha Forum earlier today, the Greek foreign minister.

00:05:21.000 And the, he was very complimentary of President Trump during our interview.

00:05:27.000 He said that the, that the Trump administration, President Trump and his team should be praised for the things that they've done to rewrite the world order.

00:05:38.000 When it comes to trade and immigration and when it comes to peace.

00:05:43.000 Right?

00:05:44.000 Like, and, and, and I think that's one of the things that we're, we're hearing from people across the board here.

00:05:49.000 I was at the opening ceremony of this event where CNN anchor Christian Amanpour was interviewing among others on stage.

00:05:58.000 It was a big panel, but the, the prime minister here in Qatar, Sheikh Mohammed, as well as, you know, several European, and I believe there was a Turkey's foreign minister, European EU official, and there was like somebody else from Spain.

00:06:17.000 First off, she mixed up the Turkish and the Spanish guy, right? Like, so, and she had to correct herself halfway through the panel on stage.

00:06:25.000 It was a really embarrassing moment for CNN. And I was sitting there just shocked and in awe that Christian Amanpour would make such a silly, embarrassing mistake. 0.92

00:06:34.000 Come on, dude. Come on, dude. She's lost her, she's lost her fastball. You know that. Come on. 0.99

00:06:39.000 Yeah. Yeah. No, she, she, hey, I guess, I guess, I guess they all, wheeling her out to Christian, to Christian, to Christian Amanpour. They all look the same. Right. Like, but the, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. But, but, but, but that being said, Steve, she tried to goad them into attacking president Trump. And she was quoting the new national security strategy from the president.

00:07:02.000 From the president and from the White House. And none of them would take the bait, not even the Spanish guy, right? Like, so the Turkish guy, the Spanish guy, the EU lady, and certainly the prime minister of Qatar, all were very supportive and, and openly, you know, backing what President Trump is doing here with regard to peace deals.

00:07:22.580 And, and, and the Qataris have been a major part of trying to achieve that peace agenda that we're seeing from President Trump. You see these deals that he's got around the world.

00:07:33.340 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. We got Rabbi Walecki, you know, and he's obviously a huge supporter of Israel. He's going to come on in the second hour. Flynn's going to follow us about the national security strategy, which I found very interesting, particularly the fact that Europe's not going to exist in 20 years, civilizational collapse.

00:07:52.000 But you've got the Russians overnight are pounding Ukraine like nobody's business. We're still having happy talk about Ukrainian sovereignty. Well, Licky's coming on to say, hey, look, Hamas and Israel are going at it hard every day that he doesn't really see.

00:08:07.200 And they've already said they're not going to have Turkish troops. President Trump's got to wave the world on his shoulders. He's trying to get these peace deals. But you have two sides on this.

00:08:15.020 They're not actually being active partners. Right. I mean, the Ukrainians still have these over the top requests. The Europeans still want the Americans to bail them out.

00:08:24.480 You know, Turkey and Qatar are not going to really move on Gaza until, you know, they're not going to disarm Hamas. 0.51

00:08:30.740 But Walecki brought up the fact in the 17 point U.N. resolution. It's kind of left open who's going to disarm them with all President Trump's work.

00:08:39.380 And he's got good teams on this. The two sides in both of these conflicts, the kinetic part of the Third World War are pretty far apart.

00:08:46.780 I mean, they're still going at each other. President Trump, I know, wants to stop the killing, stop the shooting and then cut some sort of economic deal.

00:08:53.720 So people can go on and prosper. But this is what happens when you have people that have been fighting each other for thousands of years.

00:08:59.480 Matt, it's not that simple. These all these people hate each other. They're going to try to take every advantage.

00:09:05.200 And the United States has got to make sure with America first, you know, to like do the national security strategy, we said, hey, a pox on all their houses. 0.56

00:09:13.320 Matt Boyle. Yeah. Yeah. No, Steve, I agree 100 percent.

00:09:16.680 It reminds me of something that everything you just said there reminds me of something that Secretary Rubio told me at the very beginning of this administration,

00:09:22.720 when they set out to start all of this before any of the peace deals that we've seen announced have come out where he talked about how it's so much easier to just keep fighting and to stay at war than it is to pursue peace, than it is to get to actual peace deals.

00:09:37.240 So, yeah, they've got the Gaza deal inked and whatever. But hey, this is not over yet. Right. 0.64

00:09:43.140 Like, and same thing, you know, the the Ukraine deal, hopefully on the horizon.

00:09:47.980 But still, even once the deal is inked, it's it's not over until it's over. And even then it's not over. Right.

00:09:53.980 Like, it's it's a lot easier to keep fighting and to keep engaging in war than it is to to to actually get to peace.

00:10:00.200 And that's why I think you're seeing a lot of these people praise President Trump, because he's actually going out there and trying to solve this stuff and end these conflicts,

00:10:09.580 because he doesn't want to see the killing continue. You hang on, hang on, hang on.

00:10:14.660 You've got your finger on the on the pulse of the base. I mean, you did this under Tucker.

00:10:18.180 You did it under Andy Breitbart. You did it under me. You're now running the deal yourself over there.

00:10:23.020 You've got your finger on the base better than anybody. Isn't one of the things the base are saying, look, President Trump, we love you.

00:10:29.320 You're a man of peace. You've tried to do this. You've tried to end this third world war,

00:10:33.720 but you're not getting any cooperation at all from really any of the parties when it gets down to it,

00:10:39.240 because they just want to keep killing each other. Do you think do you think it's time that more attention is paid domestically

00:10:45.360 or you think he's doing enough right now domestically, particularly given the fact that there's a lot of restive nature about the about the coming midterms?

00:10:54.740 You see in Indiana, there's still, you know, Mitch Daniels and Pence.

00:10:57.560 These guys are still trying to fight us, sir.

00:11:00.120 Yeah. Can both things be true here, Steve? I think that both things can be true. Right.

00:11:04.740 Like, I think that he should continue to pursue peace because it's the right thing to do.

00:11:09.800 And frankly, it keeps us from getting dragged into wars that are even more costly.

00:11:14.660 I mean, look at the last war that we were in, which was Afghanistan, 20 years, billions and billions of dollars, you know, and countless lives.

00:11:23.260 The war is – it's worse than not war, right?

00:11:30.860 Like, so – and then you talk about these domestic issues that we have, right, the deindustrialization, the economic problems and whatever.

00:11:37.920 If we get dragged into another war, then that's not good for the United States and for those working class people.

00:11:44.300 So I think it's important that you keep the eye on both balls here, right?

00:11:48.560 Like, I think you can do that if you're President Trump. 0.93

00:11:51.160 But, yeah, you're right.

00:11:51.960 Like, he's got to do a ton more domestically, economically as well.

00:11:57.280 Secretary Besant keeps talking about how in the first half of next year we're going to have a major economic boom, right?

00:12:04.060 Like, and a phrase I keep hearing from people across MAGA, and I've talked about this publicly, I keep hearing everybody say,

00:12:11.540 and Secretary Besant we trust, right, and Scott Besant we trust.

00:12:15.020 There's a lot of hope that he's right.

00:12:16.660 But at the same time, there's always more you can do economically, domestically as well.

00:12:22.860 So both things can be true, I think, here. 0.92

00:12:25.580 But, again, the one thing I will say is that worldwide, as compared with his first term – and, again, I really encourage people.

00:12:34.760 We're going to get the video up on Breitbart later today.

00:12:37.340 It's evening time here in Doha, right?

00:12:39.320 It's dark outside, and I'm in a dark hotel room as we're doing this.

00:12:42.700 But later today on the East Coast, our video guys are working on cutting the video of my interview with the Greek foreign minister.

00:12:51.240 I can tell you that Trump has really inspired people around the world, and he literally says this much in the interview, right?

00:12:59.640 Like right at the open of the interview, he literally says that Trump should be commended for the changes that he's made to the world.

00:13:06.040 By the way, very symbolic, Johnny Kahn, the great Johnny Kahn of Breitbart taking us out with the anthem of the Tea Party, American Heart.

00:13:13.880 Matt, people are going to – you're there, I think, until Tuesday or Wednesday or something.

00:13:17.320 People are going to want to follow you.

00:13:19.600 The Twitter, we're on Breitbart, but particularly, is it live streaming?

00:13:23.420 Can you give us quickly live streaming because they're going to want to see – you're going to do some big interviews that have not been announced yet.

00:13:28.680 Where do they go?

00:13:29.160 Yeah, at mboyl1 on Twitter, X, that will be the best place, and at breitbart.com.

00:13:35.140 So, like, our team at Breitbart will have everything up there.

00:13:39.740 Matt Boyle, I hope you run into Tucker.

00:13:41.900 Tell him hi.

00:13:43.260 Glad he's actually over there doing it.

00:13:46.040 Matt Boyle, thank you so much.

00:13:47.420 Appreciate you.

00:13:48.440 Okay.

00:13:48.840 And I do agree with Laura Loomer that the Qataris – I think the best thing the Qataris could do, Qatar could do, is come out full open and just say, hey, look, we've had a relationship with the Muslim brother in the past.

00:14:05.100 We've stopped it.

00:14:05.980 I mean, this is what the whole meeting in 2017, in May of 2017, was really to go to Riyadh and have an agreement, particularly among the Gulf Emirates, Saudi Arabia and the Emirates, to make sure that there was an agreement to stop the financing of radical jihad groups, particularly in Europe and the United States.

00:14:25.700 And, obviously, in the Arab nations, too, because the Muslim Brotherhood is a threat to both the monarchy in Saudi Arabia and the royal family in the United Arab Republic. 0.62

00:14:40.500 So – or United Arab Emirates, MBZ.

00:14:45.740 Big issue.

00:14:46.540 Abbott in Texas took the lead, designating them a terrorist organization with care.

00:14:51.660 General Mike Flynn about the strategic document just put out by the president.

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00:16:55.000 General Flynn Joyce.

00:16:55.840 General, and particularly so many new people have come to our movement, particularly in 2024.

00:17:01.720 Whole new coalitions have come, particularly to Make America Healthy Again.

00:17:04.580 The show has been explosive in its growth.

00:17:07.460 So there are many people maybe not familiar.

00:17:09.560 They know Mike Flynn today, but may not know the background of General Flynn.

00:17:13.080 General, you were one of the great warriors working from a crystal in Afghanistan, on the attack all the time, really took intel and really made it a force multiplier in combat in Afghanistan.

00:17:27.960 Then you came back.

00:17:28.920 You were head of the defense intelligence, which I actually tell people is where the pipe hitters are versus CIA.

00:17:36.420 And you were probably one of the most controversial.

00:17:38.540 You got into with President Obama right off the bat.

00:17:40.580 You were President Trump's advisor early on.

00:17:43.900 I remember we got you a meeting, I think, in August or September of 2015 to go up and advise the president and start talking about geopolitics and national security strategy.

00:17:53.900 Then you were his first national security advisor.

00:17:56.300 And one of the reasons they came after you so hard was your war against the deep state.

00:18:00.780 But a lot of it's focused on the fact that you knew the Muslim Brotherhood and radical jihad better than anybody.

00:18:08.000 The situation in Qatar.

00:18:09.720 I mean, I have no problem with people going there for a conference.

00:18:12.180 The Qataris are clearly, you know, underwriting the development in Gaza, et cetera. 0.85

00:18:17.340 But it is not lost to me, even if President Trump designated the Muslim Brotherhood, which you know because you work with me on this.

00:18:24.540 We got no traction at all in the first term.

00:18:27.900 Now President Trump's actually done it.

00:18:30.100 But it's looking at Egypt, Jordan, Syria, when really Turkey and Qatar are the big issues.

00:18:36.320 Should Qatar just come forward and have a complete just, you know, open it up and explain what their relationship has been with the Muslim Brotherhood and radical groups in the past and show people today that you cannot question it, that they no longer support finance or supply logistics to radical jihad?

00:18:57.460 And I'm not talking about allowing the Taliban or allowing Hamas to be headquartered there and to do negotiations.

00:19:03.980 I'm talking about something far deeper, which is really logistical, financial support of radical jihad throughout the world, sir.

00:19:12.820 Qatar is the foundation, Steve, of a large terrorist organization and network globally. 1.00

00:19:21.900 And so one of the things that they're going to have to do, and Trump is the guy to do it, is to basically disavow themselves from the Muslim Brotherhood, which I don't believe that they'll ever do.

00:19:31.760 The other thing, one of the pieces of Qatar is that they have the Al Jazeera network, and Al Jazeera was always the mouthpiece for Al Qaeda, ISIS, you know, you name the organization, and Al Jazeera continues to be the mouthpiece for them, as well as many other left-leaning European-based outlets, too.

00:19:50.800 So the financial, the logistic, the command and control, all of the sort of military terminology that runs commands and basically provides intent and vision for a global network emanates right there in Qatar for a large swath of some of the problems that we're facing today.

00:20:10.920 Hamas, Hezbollah, Al Qaeda, the cooperation between, you know, if you get into the weeds about the different ideologies within the Arab mind, right, Sunna versus Shia, et cetera.

00:20:23.320 But that is what Qatar provides.

00:20:25.580 I mean, Qatar is whatever, 650,000 people that sit on a trillion-dollar budget, right, I mean, or more.

00:20:32.300 So it is a very powerful piece of geography and ideology.

00:20:38.660 And they've infiltrated the American education system, whether it's New York City Public Schools, whether it's New York City Public Schools.

00:20:44.960 I mean, for a group, we've got to remember history here.

00:20:48.900 They were within 72 hours of extinction in June of 2018.

00:20:54.520 When we got back from that Riyadh meeting where they just threw down hard and said we're not going to do this, UAE and the Saudis came within 72 hours of removing the royal family, and they took a lesson from that.

00:21:08.480 We somehow have to get engaged with the West.

00:21:11.740 My point is if you really want to do it, and I know people are trying to work with them and say, hey, look, if you really want to do it, we've got to stop playing games.

00:21:18.660 President Trump, as you remember, Mike, would say no games, no games.

00:21:21.520 Here it does seem like at one level it might be a game, and we have to have absolute, complete transparency on their – they told us no, essentially, in May of 17.

00:21:34.340 I think they need to be much more open and talk about these networks, and they disavowed involvement.

00:21:41.240 There's no money.

00:21:42.480 This whole thing with the American education system, this whole situation in Texas, which, as you know, I know you're getting involved.

00:21:48.740 I'm involved in the situation in Florida.

00:21:51.260 We just need to have – if they want to be a broker of peace and assist President Trump, if they want to do something in Gaza, they can't be at the same time be underwriting terrorism in Europe and the United States, sir.

00:22:03.860 Yeah, you know what, Steve?

00:22:04.820 I don't mind what they do over there.

00:22:06.160 I don't mind what they do in their country, whatever they want to do in their country.

00:22:08.740 What I don't want is I don't want them to do it inside of our country. 0.97

00:22:11.740 I do not want their ideology, and I do not want their money being poured into our undergraduate and graduate-level programs here to the tune of billions of dollars a year to change a mindset, a cultural mindset in the United States of America.

00:22:27.120 So, you know, if Qatar – do what you want to do.

00:22:29.540 But, you know, all these other countries overseas, we have to deal with China because China is a, you know, is a big nation, right?

00:22:37.220 We do a lot of trade with China.

00:22:39.240 We have to deal with China, but I don't want the Chinese ideology here in America. 1.00

00:22:43.460 I don't want their Marxist-Communist ideology here in America.

00:22:46.000 I don't want this Islamist ideology here in America. 1.00

00:22:50.580 America has our own culture and our own way, our own constitutional system.

00:22:55.260 We don't want Sharia law in this country. 1.00

00:22:56.960 I mean, if Trump can get that message across and then make the changes that are necessary here inside – because I know one of the things we wanted to talk a little bit about was the national security strategy, which I think is very externally focused.

00:23:10.300 I mean, he's got some things where he talks about securing the border and economic, you know, freedom and some of the things that he had to talk about internally.

00:23:19.680 But the national security strategy that the president just came out with and just signed off on is really a very globally focused strategy.

00:23:28.180 And that's not what the American people want.

00:23:29.700 The American people want what is best for America.

00:23:32.200 And we have to stop this idea of, you know, what I call and what I wrote about here just recently in this long march through the institutions.

00:23:40.680 So how has this country got – the United States now talking about how do we get to where we are, Steve?

00:23:46.820 We got here because there is a long march of not only bureaucrats but Marxists and neo-Marxists and Marxism inside of our system of government, inside of our agencies, activities, departments, whatever, inside of our government.

00:24:00.920 And that includes all branches of government, judiciary, legislative, and executive branch.

00:24:06.980 And that long march has been going on for 50 years or more.

00:24:10.760 And so here we are.

00:24:12.000 We now have inside of our system.

00:24:14.840 So, you know, we can talk about Qatar.

00:24:17.180 But Trump, what he's got to do is he's got to stop this madness about allowing these – it's not just Qatar.

00:24:22.320 It's China and particularly China because they're the big dog. 1.00

00:24:25.800 It's all these overseas elements that breed and spew communism, that, you know, breed and spew Marxism, that breed and spew Islamism. 1.00

00:24:34.780 Let me take it another way just for a second because first off, if Grace and Moe – let's push out – General Flynn wrote a very long, detailed analytical piece about the national security strategy.

00:24:45.820 If Elizabeth and Moe and Grace can also push out President Trump's – it's 33 pages long.

00:24:50.960 Everybody in the war and posse this weekend must read it.

00:24:53.400 Totally free.

00:24:54.060 We're going to put it up.

00:24:54.740 You've got to read it.

00:24:55.440 Every page of it.

00:24:57.140 And Mike Flynn's done an analysis.

00:24:59.080 We're going to have Laura Logan next week.

00:25:00.500 We've got Captain Fennell.

00:25:01.840 We're going to do a whole week of people coming on and giving different perspectives of it.

00:25:05.200 On one level, it's absolutely amazing.

00:25:07.540 But he does put Europe at the very end.

00:25:11.400 And in Europe, it's one of the most brutal assessments of Europe in a reality check.

00:25:15.880 He says, look, I don't know in 20 years.

00:25:18.700 We don't know if there's even going to be a civil – these NATO allies, if they're even going to be around and control their countries.

00:25:24.320 You're seeing the potential for civilizational collapse in Europe.

00:25:28.640 I think one thing that struck me and I think it struck you and others that are big supporters of President Trump is that what's happened in Europe is very much happening here in the United States in a very early stage.

00:25:43.000 And it must be stopped.

00:25:44.020 It's a deep state.

00:25:45.200 It's the red-green alliance.

00:25:47.000 Neo-Marxist with Islamists in the institutions of our government, in the educational institutions, in the corporations, in law enforcement, in intelligence. 0.92

00:25:58.660 And that's the part that's not in the national strategy memo.

00:26:01.400 It doesn't really talk about the national strategy of the United States going forward in regards to this deep state takeover, sir.

00:26:09.200 Yeah, if we were alive in the 1500s and 1600s, Steve, we'd be having the same goddamn conversation, just from a different viewpoint, the way things existed back then. 0.69

00:26:18.900 So here we are in the 21st century.

00:26:20.620 And frankly, my sort of bombshell is the EU is totally gone.

00:26:26.560 It is an organization that has lost sight of what its real purpose and goals were at the very beginning.

00:26:33.440 So I think the EU needs to go away.

00:26:36.060 The reshaping of the European continent is taking place before our very eyes.

00:26:41.980 And there is a massive, massive split between the globalists and those that want nationalism in their own countries, those that want to protect their own sovereignty.

00:26:51.360 Matt Boyle talked about the interview with the Greek, I think the foreign minister, he said, and, you know, how they're like, they love Donald Trump because Trump is fighting for national sovereignty.

00:27:02.100 Trump is fighting for something that the European Union wants to get rid of.

00:27:05.740 And so that's why I think the European Union is something that probably, you know, and again, these are big institutions.

00:27:12.100 NATO is another institution.

00:27:14.360 You know, he said Matt Whitaker was there at Qatar, right?

00:27:17.340 I mean, why is Matt Whitaker at Qatar?

00:27:18.940 I mean, what is he there to do, get more money from Qatar?

00:27:21.600 NATO is another institution that was created as a defensive chartered institution with originally about 14 to 16 countries.

00:27:28.300 Now it has close to 30 or 40.

00:27:30.480 I mean, we have to relook everything in our relationships between the United States and Europe.

00:27:39.020 Okay, hang on for a second.

00:27:40.020 We'll take a break.

00:27:40.660 I think this, I think by putting it, by the way, Europe comes up on page 29 of 33.

00:27:46.560 It's got to be a wake-up call for people in Europe.

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00:29:07.960 Okay.

00:29:08.640 Homework assignment is to read the national security strategy.

00:29:13.880 The national military strategy, Mike, will be what?

00:29:16.580 Another 30 days.

00:29:17.740 They'll put out, the Pentagon will put out, the Department of War will put out, we'll take the overall strategy and then put out a military strategy around it.

00:29:26.780 One of the biggest things is hemispheric defense.

00:29:28.880 He goes out of his way to talk about hemispheric defense, particularly the Trump corollary to the Monroe Doctrine, which is full-spectrum dominance in Latin America.

00:29:39.480 And I think he's seen from Argentina to Venezuela, maybe some questions of what's happening in Brazil, but you're starting to see that.

00:29:45.920 Overall, net-net, I know you've got another piece coming out today.

00:29:48.640 Is your biggest issue that it's a good strategy, good start for Trump to be looking at all these hot spots in Eurasian landmass and a pivot back here to the hemisphere?

00:30:01.020 But your concern is there's not enough focus on the deep state here and what you really have to do to secure?

00:30:08.020 Because those are the guys coming after Trump the worst.

00:30:10.860 It ain't the Russians. 0.98

00:30:11.620 It's definitely the CCP with their minions here, but you've got a deep state that is looking to remove Trump right after the midterms.

00:30:20.880 If they don't assassinate him first, and people, you've got to have that on the table because they tried twice.

00:30:25.840 General Flynn.

00:30:27.260 Yeah, a couple of things.

00:30:28.140 Number one, the national security strategy that the president just signed off on, it's focused more globally, externally than it is internally.

00:30:36.540 And I'll address some of that here in a second.

00:30:39.460 I think it is a good forward-facing document.

00:30:42.560 It basically says to the world, America is ready to lead again.

00:30:47.240 So from that standpoint, very good.

00:30:49.820 I think that the issue about Europe that we talked about in the last segment is something that people need to pay very close attention to.

00:30:56.620 Let's see if Trump actually follows through.

00:30:58.500 I do think that one of the things that it falls short on is a lot of this ideological stuff that's going on here in the United States, right?

00:31:05.920 The ideological pressure, the media manipulation that we have, you know, the idea of this Marxism and neo-Marxism ideology that is definitely inside and has infiltrated into the institutions of our government.

00:31:18.760 There's not enough discussion about how the president of the United States in this national security strategy, which should be both foreign and domestic, has to deal with.

00:31:27.040 You know, we have many, many compromised oversight systems, as an example.

00:31:30.680 We have a very, very complex election system and technologies.

00:31:35.500 And people in this country are like still going, what the hell is going on?

00:31:38.440 Why do I care about Europe?

00:31:39.860 Why do I care about the Middle East? 0.99

00:31:41.100 I need to care about my country right here and whether or not we have a free and fair election.

00:31:45.740 So one of the things that we did, and we actually wrote a national security strategy as part of an institute that I'm part of, the Gold Institute for International Strategy.

00:31:54.220 We wrote one back last June.

00:31:55.900 And I like to think that it drove some of what the White House has in this current document.

00:32:01.060 And you mentioned the national defense strategy, which I know has been being worked in parallel.

00:32:06.680 And it'll likely be out here in another week or two.

00:32:09.420 Maybe it'll come out right after the holidays.

00:32:11.980 So we have to pay very close attention to that.

00:32:13.800 Something that I want to put a finger, you know, a fingertip on or a poke in the chest on with Matt Boyle, and people that I hear say this a lot.

00:32:23.600 Steve, war is the norm in human history.

00:32:27.080 Peace is the aberration.

00:32:28.600 We have to figure out Trump and what Trump wants.

00:32:31.100 He's a historic guy, like him or not.

00:32:35.680 This guy wants to stop wars.

00:32:37.620 When you have these machines that require submission by the American people called the military industrial complex, the intelligence community complex, you know, NATO is another military industrial complex.

00:32:49.440 You got to have a boogeyman.

00:32:51.100 You know, you got to have Russia out there.

00:32:53.300 I mean, there's a lot of there's a lot of things going on right now globally that we can we can basically stop or or or, you know, shut down to a to a period for a period of time and say, OK, what is it that we want to do?

00:33:09.720 Trump, I really firmly believe that if Trump doesn't refocus and I mean refocus in a very, very determined way right here at home in the next couple of months, if not the next year, we're going to lose the midterm elections and and Katie bar the door.

00:33:25.000 Now, now we're now we're in a place where and that's why I wrote these these this two part series.

00:33:30.420 Part of it is already published out there.

00:33:33.040 I'm going to I'm going to push another one out here today.

00:33:35.580 I mean, we have to we have to regain who we are as a nation, Steve.

00:33:41.960 And that's what you've been harping on all the time.

00:33:44.540 These people, these organizations, these structures, these big structures, they want you know, they want us to they want to drive us into submission.

00:33:52.740 America and to your audience, Steve, and directly to your audience, we are at an inflection point in history.

00:33:58.680 If Donald J. Trump does not understand that and does not get this right, we're screwed and we will move in a on a different path towards what these Marxists want us to move towards.

00:34:10.080 And this axis of alliance, they call it the red green alliance.

00:34:13.640 Yeah, this I call it the axis of resistance.

00:34:16.300 The main body is right here in the United States of America inside of our government.

00:34:21.460 I think I do think he understands it.

00:34:24.020 I think people around him have got to take more action on this.

00:34:26.220 We try to do this every day and highlight it.

00:34:27.980 And it's like Washington at the birth of the nation or winning the revolution, getting our independence in the birth of the nation, which were all three separate things, inner shirkably link, linking at the rebirth of the nation and Trump at the at the reclamation of the nation, reclaiming its greatness.

00:34:43.600 It is an inflection point.

00:34:45.020 I think he does understand that.

00:34:46.280 That's why he's a world historical figure.

00:34:47.920 But all of us have got to pile in here.

00:34:49.500 And where we see it drifting a little bit, we got to say, hey, maybe we need to maybe we need a course correction right now.

00:34:54.880 Now, our advice, I know your advice to President Trump, you can't go too hard on the deep state.

00:34:59.860 You just can't.

00:35:01.060 We're going to have Julie Kelly up here next about some of the stuff's going on at DOJ right now.

00:35:05.260 I understand, Pam, these guys are overwhelmed.

00:35:07.700 Cash is overwhelmed.

00:35:08.540 It's about this pipe bomber. 0.53

00:35:10.000 Let me play.

00:35:10.500 I want to do one thing where we're here to talk about the deep state.

00:35:12.540 We got a clip on Pete Hegseth, and I want to make a statement that you can tell when somebody is effective when the deep state comes after him.

00:35:21.500 Pete Hegseth, there's an onslaught about Pete Hegseth, the Secretary of War, that I've only seen in my involvement in politics, I don't know, the last 15, 20 years, is against Mike Flynn.

00:35:33.280 Let's go ahead and play it.

00:35:34.320 And then, General Flynn, I want your advice on this.

00:35:37.720 Pete Hegseth needs to go now.

00:35:39.240 You wrote, Pete Hegseth, however, was elected by no one.

00:35:42.720 He's an unprofessional and sometimes unstable appointee who does not seem to comprehend the seriousness of the office he occupies, does not respect the senior officers who serve this country, and does not seem to care at all about the people of the U.S. military, except that he's worried that too many of them are fat or women.

00:35:57.660 Hegseth is unqualified and incompetent, and he should have been fired months ago, end quote.

00:36:02.240 Arguably, he should have never been put in the job, and there were people who had reservations and misgivings then who seemed to sort of overlook them and say, well, you know what, we're going to give this one to Trump.

00:36:12.500 He's turning out to be not just a danger, but deadly.

00:36:14.780 Hegseth was the most dangerous and incompetent of all of the dangerous and incompetent appointees, and, you know, the list goes on, not just Patel and Noam, but Kennedy and Gabbard and so many others. 0.99

00:36:30.940 I mean, this really is just a clown car. 0.97

00:36:33.500 I think that's Nichols, that he actually was an instructor at the Naval War College.

00:36:39.340 I do not understand why Milley has not been recalled to active duty, why Kelly has not been recalled to active duty, court-martialed, and I don't understand why this guy's sucking down a pension from the U.S. government.

00:36:49.980 Another very dangerous guy, totally out of line.

00:36:54.220 General Flynn, your thoughts, and I tell you, last night we were going to cut a cold open, but I said let's push the cold open,

00:37:00.560 because virtually all last night on MSNBC and CNN is just a complete beatdown on the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth.

00:37:09.260 Your thoughts, sir?

00:37:11.300 Yeah, first of all, Pete Hegseth, I think, is doing an extraordinary job.

00:37:14.640 He's being incredibly transparent.

00:37:16.080 He's bringing a level of leadership, energy, intellect, and transparency to the Department of War, number one.

00:37:24.060 He's got a great relationship with President Trump, which is really critical.

00:37:27.440 He's got a great relationship with Tulsi Gabbard, which is really critical.

00:37:31.540 Seventy percent of the U.S. intelligence community is in the Department of War.

00:37:35.060 I think one of the things that Pete Hegseth needs to do is I think he does need to look internal,

00:37:40.340 and I think that some of the folks around him know what I'm talking about.

00:37:44.380 You know, he needs to look internal across the whole of the department for those subversives that do exist there

00:37:50.680 and remove them, remove them very quickly.

00:37:53.240 And there are not many, but there are a few, and some, you know, dress like they're on your team.

00:37:59.800 So don't pay attention to the media.

00:38:03.900 You know, get out there and keep doing what you're doing.

00:38:06.940 The fact that when Pete Hegseth stood up for Mitch Bradley, who I've known for a long, long time,

00:38:11.820 and I'm part of the development, Steve.

00:38:13.760 You know, you mentioned me at the very beginning.

00:38:15.900 I'm part of the development of what's called it takes a network to defeat a network, right?

00:38:19.920 This restructuring of how we do targeting.

00:38:22.900 Mitch Bradley was a commander when we were first retooling how we need to fight our enemies,

00:38:28.600 you know, no matter where they are, whether they're here domestically or whether they're overseas.

00:38:33.780 So Pete Hegseth, I think, is doing all the right things.

00:38:37.000 I do think that there are some internal things that he's got to look at from the types of people that he has around him.

00:38:42.540 Now, disregard this noise from the left.

00:38:45.220 They will be brutal.

00:38:47.560 One of the things for my message for President Donald J. Trump is you need to continue to have his back,

00:38:53.760 as I know that you do, and let Pete do the things that you asked him to do,

00:38:57.400 which is to bring energy, leadership, you know, a vision and a transparency

00:39:01.860 and a sort of a regrouping of what we need in the Department of War now.

00:39:07.960 Because I'm going to tell you, when you can't have recruiting,

00:39:11.000 you can't have the kinds of things that we have in our country right now that are,

00:39:14.420 all those numbers are looking pretty good.

00:39:15.960 So screw these people from whatever these organizations are and these media outlets are.

00:39:20.180 They're going to do that all the time. 0.65

00:39:21.740 You know, who the hell are they to talk about what, you know, is right or not for this country?

00:39:27.320 The American people voted for one guy, President Donald J. Trump.

00:39:31.060 This is the team he put into place, and we need to stand behind them.

00:39:34.400 And I will tell you, the majority, the majority of the American people stand behind Pete Hegg said.

00:39:38.960 General Flynn, I haven't had a chance to ask you this,

00:39:42.980 but the building is a very big and complicated institution to manage.

00:39:49.120 You spent your entire life frontline as a warrior, then you came back head of DI.

00:39:53.160 If the president was asking, he's got these special envoys, you know,

00:39:55.860 like Sergio's ambassador in India, but he's a special envoy to the Central Asian, Eurasian landmass.

00:40:01.340 If the president asked you to, hey, go over and come back as some sort of a special assistant

00:40:07.200 or some kind of senior position to help Pete Heggseth over in the War Department,

00:40:13.660 would you be open to that?

00:40:15.460 Yeah, 100 percent, 100 percent.

00:40:17.440 And I do that anyway.

00:40:19.720 But, yeah, I would, you know, sort of roving ambassador

00:40:24.500 or whatever the hell the president needs at this point in time.

00:40:27.300 We're almost a year into his administration.

00:40:29.700 We're seeing the challenges that are coming, that are going to be hitting him left and right.

00:40:33.620 Trump wants to be the peacetime president, and he is.

00:40:37.120 He's done so much to stop many of these fights around the world.

00:40:41.640 Could he have a better selection as a pipe hitter to take on the deep state than Mike Flynn?

00:40:48.140 Could you name one?

00:40:49.940 Not one.

00:40:50.680 Sir?

00:40:51.300 Not one.

00:40:51.780 No, no, Steve. 0.99

00:40:52.860 Yeah, I mean, if he put me in that role, Steve, they would **** their pants. 0.99

00:40:58.360 Excuse my Irish. 0.93

00:41:02.360 General Mike Flynn, where do people go?

00:41:04.080 You're putting out the second analytical piece this afternoon.

00:41:06.960 I want everybody to read it over the weekend.

00:41:08.860 Where do folks go?

00:41:09.720 Where do they go to get all your content?

00:41:11.180 You got a couple of films up, Twitter, all of it, sir.

00:41:14.020 Where do they go?

00:41:15.020 They can go to generalflynn.com, generalflynn.com, or on X,

00:41:18.840 I'm at genflynn, G-E-N-Flynn, and I'll post this second part of this two-part series here today.

00:41:25.840 And people need to read this, Steve.

00:41:27.120 They need to read it because this is exactly what has happened to our country,

00:41:30.780 and I lay out six solutions in part two.

00:41:35.380 This is part one that you're looking at, folks.

00:41:36.920 I lay out six solutions that range from everything from cultivating the nuclear family,

00:41:44.140 redesigning our education system, getting us off the welfare state that Lyndon Beans Johnson created.

00:41:52.320 I mean, there's some really doable solutions that our country can take on.

00:41:57.960 President Trump is the guy to do it.

00:41:59.720 And in many cases, he's starting to do it.

00:42:02.120 He just needs to coalesce around that, and that is the America first attitude.

00:42:06.800 In me, Steve.

00:42:08.740 I've got the – I've got – I've actually thought of your title as you've been talking.

00:42:12.700 A special envoy to the deep state, General Mike Flynn.

00:42:16.420 That would set him – that would set him off.

00:42:18.180 That would give MSNBC a couple of days of programming, would it not, sir?

00:42:21.660 Mike Flynn, General, thank you so much.

00:42:24.020 We're going to push it out and share it today.

00:42:25.460 Be force multipliers on your analytical piece.

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00:45:41.600 Brett Jensen, a longtime supporter of Turning Point and others, joins us today.

00:45:47.420 Sir, you're running, I think it's in Texas 8.

00:45:50.800 Marcus Luttrell, Navy SEAL, is going to step back and focus, I think, more on his family.

00:45:56.020 He's got young kids, got teenage sons, I think.

00:45:58.740 You're stepping into the breach here.

00:46:00.440 I know you're a long-term war room posse member.

00:46:04.000 Why are you running for Congress?

00:46:05.680 With all the grief that it comes from being in Congress, and I call it the Duma now because under Johnson, it doesn't, Speaker Johnson doesn't really accomplish a lot.

00:46:13.920 Why would you decide to leave business and in your private endeavors and go into the snake pit of elective politics, sir?

00:46:22.340 Well, first, thanks for having me, Steve.

00:46:26.340 As you said, I'm a longtime war room posse member, and, you know, there's a philosophy on war room, next man up.

00:46:33.780 And President Trump needs real fighters, people from the real world, not people in D.C. looking to pad their resumes to find their next job, you know, post-Trump.

00:46:45.180 But people that are ready to man the ramparts, to fight, and to fight now.

00:46:50.840 And, you know, this isn't something that I was ever looking to do.

00:46:55.500 Running for elected office is not something that I'm, you know, have kind of engineered my life around.

00:47:02.560 I was very successful and very happy in private life.

00:47:07.420 But, you know, for such a time as this, and the time is now.

00:47:12.500 Why the – you've never run for any elective office.

00:47:15.820 You're doing this.

00:47:16.800 Why did you target the House?

00:47:18.320 What do you think you can accomplish for MAGA, America First, President Trump, and the Republic in the House of Representatives, sir?

00:47:27.240 Well, one of the things that's very frustrating for those of us out in the real world is how when it matters, there's nobody in the House,

00:47:36.680 or there aren't enough people in the House, I should say, that will stand up and fight and will carry the America's First Forward agenda forward.

00:47:45.320 One of the other issues that's very important to me is defending capitalism.

00:47:50.720 And there's too many people in government that don't understand the private sector.

00:47:54.860 They don't understand the power of capitalism.

00:47:56.760 They don't understand its connection to freedom and to what made America great.

00:48:02.320 And, you know, starting from our founding, from the Virginia plan under James Madison, revenue starts in the House.

00:48:08.980 Understanding, you know, budgeting and taxation, it starts in the House of Representatives.

00:48:14.860 Do we have capitalism as a country?

00:48:16.960 I know we have corporatism, particularly the concentration of power.

00:48:20.120 You saw the Netflix deal yesterday.

00:48:22.340 We have, you know, whether it's big pharma or the distribution of pharmaceuticals in the drug industry, you know, pharmaceutical industry, the drug stores you've got, whether it's big media, the lords of easy money on Wall Street, the tech bros out in Silicon Valley, artificial intelligence.

00:48:37.380 Everywhere you look, the medical profession, you've got these massive organizations that are merging together and becoming kind of co-partners with big governments.

00:48:48.940 So you kind of have state capitalism.

00:48:51.120 How do you intend to give access to American citizens to not just free market capitalism but entrepreneurial capitalism in the House of Representatives, sir?

00:49:02.480 Well, I think that's a great question, Steve.

00:49:06.220 And one of the things that is important that I think is not discussed enough is the financialization of the American economy in the modern era.

00:49:17.140 So much of what the government does and what these big corporations do, you know, run through the big banks and run through the investment banks on Wall Street.

00:49:25.720 And, you know, you spent time there, you understand what it's like, you know, going all the way back to the end of the 90s, you know, when we allowed the commercial banks and the investment banks to become behemoths that then became, you know, too big to fail as we use.

00:49:44.300 I mean, there should be no concept of too big to fail in a true free market capitalist economy.

00:49:51.960 And capitalism, as far as I'm concerned, is entrepreneurship.

00:49:55.860 It's the ability for people to start businesses and build lives around those businesses, have something to pass on to their children, and to build, you know, lives for other people.

00:50:07.740 That doesn't come from gigantic companies merging with each other.

00:50:12.080 I wish NVIDIA all the success in the world, but the share price of NVIDIA is not what matters to the people shopping at the H-E-B grocery store in Magnolia, Texas.

00:50:25.980 You know, they own small businesses.

00:50:29.180 They're plumbers.

00:50:30.140 They're carpenters.

00:50:31.320 They're, you know, own landscaping companies and small businesses in the oil field.

00:50:35.900 And that's what matters.

00:50:37.020 So you're going to be a supporter of the small business, entrepreneurial finance, entrepreneurial capitalism.

00:50:43.240 Last question.

00:50:43.980 You seem like a great guy.

00:50:45.080 People speak very highly of you, and you've supported some great causes, and you've been a fan of the show for a long time.

00:50:50.860 You've done all the kind of work behind the scenes that people want.

00:50:53.220 Are you tough enough?

00:50:55.080 You seem like a great guy.

00:50:56.140 You're going into a snake pit.

00:50:57.480 You're down in Houston, and, of course, the Republican apparatus in the imperial capital of Washington is very tough, and Texas is tough, too.

00:51:08.080 Are you tough enough?

00:51:09.160 We've got about a minute.

00:51:09.980 Are you tough enough to win this seat and be effective, sir?

00:51:14.480 I am, Steve.

00:51:15.880 We're going to win this seat, and we're going to take the fight to them.

00:51:19.820 I am ready, and I have spent my life getting up in their grill, as you would say.

00:51:24.900 And I have no reason to be doing this other than to fight, and this is very much a spiritual war, and I feel called to this, and I'm going back there for no other reason than to fight.

00:51:42.960 So if I'm not prepared to fight, why would I be doing it?

00:51:45.160 Because there's no benefit to me.

00:51:46.480 I'm going to fight for all of us and what we believe in.

00:51:50.980 Hang on.

00:51:51.620 I want you to give your social media to the other side.

00:51:53.260 Short commercial break.

00:51:54.180 Julie Kelly is going to join us.

00:51:57.700 Rabbi Pesach Oeleki is also going to join us from Jerusalem with some discussion about what's happening in the peace deal with Israel in Hamas.

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Bannon's War Room - December 06, 2025

Episode 4978： Globalists Descend On Qatar; Underwriting Terrorism In America

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