Bannon's War Room - Episode 4983： Losing The Representative Republic; Victory Against Islam In Alabama

00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

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00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:00:12.000 I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:00:22.000 but you're not going to stop it.

00:00:23.000 It's going to happen.

00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?

00:00:27.000 MAGA Media.

00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:00:34.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:00:38.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:00:44.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:52.000 It's Tuesday, 9 December, Year of our Lord, 2025.

00:00:54.000 We are so jammed today that we're going to do the cold open a little bit later

00:00:58.000 with some of our other guests.

00:00:59.000 Senator Hawley will be joining us.

00:01:00.000 Senator Tuberville.

00:01:01.000 We're pretty packed.

00:01:03.000 Dave Bratt's in studio with me.

00:01:05.000 And Ben Harnwell joins us from Rome.

00:01:09.000 I should say Dave Bratt is in the anchor chair in our D.C. studio.

00:01:15.000 I want to start with Orrin Cass of American Compass, the chief economist over there.

00:01:20.000 So folks should understand, behind the scenes in D.C., two huge things are taking place simultaneously.

00:01:27.000 Number one, the Senate is working on a megabus, not an omnibus, but a megabus.

00:01:33.000 This thing's, quite frankly, a mess.

00:01:35.000 We're going to break that down later.

00:01:36.000 All types of spending we thought we got out of there is back in.

00:01:41.000 So we'll get to that in a moment.

00:01:42.000 But the other big fight is about kind of this global conflict about artificial intelligence, Orrin,

00:01:50.000 and about the executive order and, you know, the NDAA, the AI amnesty, this whole thing between the states and federal government and the four horsemen of the apocalypse at the frontier labs with no restrictions.

00:02:05.000 And David Sachsen people want no restrictions.

00:02:07.000 On the other hand, because the reason we're even talking about no restrictions is that we've had a Sputnik moment.

00:02:13.000 We're in a race like either to the moon or to build a hydrogen bomb against the Soviets.

00:02:19.000 And and we can't we can't miss a beat.

00:02:22.000 We got it. You know, we can't put any restraints or any oversight on these amazing entrepreneurs because to do so would turn the world over to the Chinese Communist Party.

00:02:31.000 But simultaneously, the Chinese Communist Party can't be competitive unless they have our chips, our know how, our education, our capital, all of it, the whole ecosystem to build a complex system.

00:02:43.000 Probably the most complex, like artificial intelligence needs Western support and every aspect of it.

00:02:50.000 So make it make sense to me.

00:02:52.000 How do we have this situation where we are and we're going to get a team of experts to start coming on here?

00:02:59.000 Many have never been on the war room before because they're experts in this area.

00:03:04.000 And across the board, this is kind of uniting a lot of people saying we don't understand what's happening.

00:03:09.000 Just explain it to us. Oren, the floor is yours.

00:03:12.000 Well, thank you for having me on.

00:03:14.000 It's it is a sad day for America first, bluntly.

00:03:18.000 I think you've as laid out, there are these fights that have been going on behind the scenes over all of these different definitions and fights on A.I.

00:03:29.000 And what's fascinating about them is these people will not have the debates in public.

00:03:34.000 You will not find anybody actually go out there, face a tough interview and try to explain why we should be telling, you know, states no nobody else can do any regulation.

00:03:45.000 They will certainly not go out and explain why should we sell chips to China.

00:03:51.000 And yet they they continue to push these directly contradictory policies.

00:03:56.000 A.I. is the most important thing. We have to win on it.

00:03:59.000 Also, we should give advanced chips to China.

00:04:03.000 I have to highlight because this is so funny or maybe pathetic.

00:04:07.000 You decide literally yesterday as the Trump administration was saying we're going to start selling these advanced chips called the H-200s to China.

00:04:17.000 The Trump administration Department of Justice was proudly announcing they had cracked down on somebody for smuggling those exact same chips to China.

00:04:26.000 This is the release from the Department of Justice proudly says that they they exposed a sophisticated smuggling network that threatens our nation's security by funneling cutting edge A.I. technology to those who would use it against American interests.

00:04:41.000 Well, now it's President Trump and the White House that are funneling that exact same cutting edge A.I. technology to the Chinese who would use it against American interest.

00:04:51.000 The only through line, the only common denominator that makes sense is at every stage it's the choice that's going to make the most money for the people selling these products.

00:05:02.000 The people who apparently get the last hearing in the Oval Office, the people who the decisions are being made on behalf of with with no consideration for the national interest of the American people.

00:05:13.000 I want to go back because the it's absolutely kind of one of the key points.

00:05:20.000 The Justice Department and this investigation has been going on a while.

00:05:25.000 And the way that the release is, is that they've had a massive investigation.

00:05:29.000 They found these guys that are basically black market guys in doing this.

00:05:33.000 And it's like I said, Jensen Wong is an arms dealer. He's an arms dealer.

00:05:38.000 And guess what? Some black market arms dealers got caught, as arms dealers often do, by people like the Justice Department that have these nets out there to make sure this is not happening illegally.

00:05:50.000 That all the controls we put in the Commerce Department and all the different regulatory agencies that have a hand in this, you have very tight restrictions on this.

00:05:59.000 You go up to Capitol Hill, you get sign off, you get everybody in kind of agreement.

00:06:05.000 Nobody's perfectly happy, but it kind of is a structure that you live with.

00:06:09.000 And then on the very day that they announce this really great effort to get these smaller arms dealers, the biggest arms dealer gets a pass and he's going to pay.

00:06:20.000 You know, he's going to give 25 percent to the American people or back to the government.

00:06:23.000 That's fine. But it's kind of irrelevant if you're selling them something that will make them even, you know, even near competitive.

00:06:32.000 If this is a race and we've signed an executive order that turns the national labs and turns the weapons labs, the great weapons labs that Oppenheimer and the team built the atomic bomb and then built the hydrogen bomb.

00:06:47.000 Those same weapons labs, Los Alamos, Lawrence Livermore, Sandia and others, plus the other national labs will essentially be turned over to the A.I. guys because it's a matter of the utmost national security.

00:06:59.000 You know, why do we provide not just the chips, but any part of the ecosystem, the capital, the expertise, the 350,000 Chinese students over here all taking engineering and advanced computer because they're not they're not majoring in medieval poetry.

00:07:14.760 None of that. So two things can't be right at the same time. If we're if this is a Sputnik moment, OK, and we have to actually do some things that we wouldn't be comfortable with in ceding ground to the accelerationist.

00:07:28.760 Right. Then you same time, you can't be arming the enemy with everything they need to actually compete with us.

00:07:39.080 It just it doesn't make any sense, does it? Is there any logic here that you and I are missing or the other people I've talked to, the hundreds of other people in the last 24 hours on this?

00:07:47.280 Well, look, the argument that that folks will make behind the scenes, because, as I said, no, no one's willing to make this argument in public because it is such a weak argument.

00:07:57.360 But if if you ask them, you know, with a straight faith, like, tell me what you think here, what what are they saying?

00:08:03.400 You know, in the Oval Office, the argument is essentially that we want U.S. to have tech leadership in China.

00:08:11.600 And so if we sell these advanced chips to China, that will allow us to keep a foothold there that will sort of addict them to our technology.

00:08:20.300 This should sound familiar because it's the exact same thing corporations have been saying for 30 years.

00:08:26.420 Every new generation comes in and says, we have to get into China.

00:08:30.140 We have to sell our technology. We have to give away our technology there.

00:08:33.800 And that's going to be good for us in the long run.

00:08:36.140 And every single time they end up embarrassed and thrown out on the street and China keeps the technology and takes the leadership.

00:08:45.000 And, yes, the shareholders get a bunch of profit in the short run and the U.S. falls behind in the long run.

00:08:51.640 And what's so frustrating here is that, you know, AI is is in many ways now the one advantage that we have.

00:08:57.580 If you think about the competition that we're in with China, as we try to reindustrialize, build back manufacturing in this country, our advantage on on AI chips, our ability to build the most powerful systems.

00:09:10.460 That's really the one thing that we sort of have going for us as we try to make up for the mistakes of the past.

00:09:18.160 And so to have folks saying, no, no, we want to instead go back and make the exact same mistake again, undermine the advantage that we have just to make a little bit more money in the short run.

00:09:28.080 And this is exactly the mistake we've been making over and over again.

00:09:32.620 And you just have to ask yourself, you know, if the tables were turned, if China had this advantage, would, you know, would you have Chinese leaders saying, oh, yeah, let's let's sell a bunch of advanced chips to the Americans?

00:09:43.900 The question answers itself. It is unfortunate that we don't have business leaders in this country that are sufficiently grateful to what America has given them, to the freedom that they have, to the profit that they are able to earn, that they think about the American interest at all.

00:10:00.860 It just gets thrown out the window if there's a little bit more money to be made, you know, essentially selling the Chinese the rope that they're going to hang us with.

00:10:10.380 And what you're talking about is decoupling is that in 19 in 2019, they did this.

00:10:17.480 This is why you've had tick tock. You had deep seek. You've had all these things.

00:10:20.400 As soon as they get enough expertise because they copy everything, as soon as they get enough expertise, they try to decouple from the West.

00:10:27.840 This is why they didn't sign the Lighthizer deal. The president Trump negotiated for two years.

00:10:31.640 They would take care of the seven deadly sins and integrate them into the global economy.

00:10:35.580 They actually, at the very last second, Li He, when he presented it to Wan, Xi, Shan, and Xi, they tore it up.

00:10:41.280 They said, we're not going to do that. Then we're not going to do that. The two years of negotiation.

00:10:47.860 What you mentioned here is that Jensen Wong, when you talk about this and people making this argument, Jensen Wong is trying to sell on the American people that it doesn't matter who wins.

00:10:59.360 If China wins, that's okay. If a Chinese company wins, it's okay. He's on record as saying that.

00:11:03.620 He's actually said the American dream that if you're a China hawk, that is a badge of shame.

00:11:11.800 If you're a China hawk, if you're anti-CCP, you're a China hawk, that is a badge of shame, not a badge of honor.

00:11:17.680 And he said in this regard that the American dream actually goes through China.

00:11:23.140 What would you say of a person that tried to make that pitch consistently to the American people, sir?

00:11:31.200 Well, I think you're giving him too much credit for even saying he's making a pitch consistently.

00:11:36.540 You know, one of the reasons he's not actually out there trying to make the case for this policy is because he can't make the case for anything.

00:11:44.900 One day he goes out there and says China's going to win.

00:11:47.680 One day he goes out there and says it doesn't matter who's going to win.

00:11:50.420 Then his PR people run in to clean up and say, no, no, no, we're going to win.

00:11:55.500 Then he says export controls don't work.

00:11:57.520 Then he says there's no smuggling going on.

00:12:00.600 Then he says, don't worry about the smuggling.

00:12:02.240 Just let us sell it directly.

00:12:04.420 One day, obviously, we have to beat China.

00:12:07.020 The next day, China hawk is a badge of shame.

00:12:09.960 It's just throwing stuff at the wall, seeing what, if anything, sticks,

00:12:13.940 and counting on the end of the day, having an administration that isn't going to think about the actual arguments,

00:12:20.940 that's just going to sort of, I guess, go with the rich guy.

00:12:25.300 And I would hope that we would have an administration.

00:12:29.100 We'd have policymakers.

00:12:30.500 You know, it was reported that when Trump met with Xi, he was thinking about doing this kind of deal.

00:12:35.840 And other folks in the administration, you know, maybe with cooler heads, stepped in and said, you can't do this.

00:12:40.800 This is a mistake.

00:12:41.960 This is bad for the United States.

00:12:43.820 This is not consistent with the foreign policy that the president has espoused, the commitment to America first.

00:12:50.920 And now they're throwing it all out the window.

00:12:53.020 And it's a tragedy for this administration.

00:12:56.120 And it's going to be a tragedy for the United States.

00:12:59.160 You know, President Trump's the first president we've ever had that stood up to China.

00:13:02.680 One of the most refreshing things about him in 15 and 16 was that he stood up to China.

00:13:09.600 Here's what I want to do.

00:13:10.360 I want to hold you through the break.

00:13:11.440 I got Dave Brett, Ben Harnwell in Rome, Dave Brett in D.C.

00:13:15.660 Orrin, and we're going to go to Brian Glenn in a little while, our Whitehurst correspondent.

00:13:19.660 The president of the United States, Orrin, this is what I want to tee up for when you come back in the next segment.

00:13:24.240 The president of the United States is headed to Pennsylvania today.

00:13:27.020 He's got a very compelling economic argument.

00:13:30.500 We've made two huge bets here.

00:13:32.100 And you can't unwind those bets.

00:13:33.520 You made a bet on a supply-side tax cut to bring capital into manufacturing and turn us to be a manufacturing superpower.

00:13:39.940 At the same time, you've reorganized the world's commercial relationships and done it in six months to use trade as a forcing function or terror as a forcing function to bring capital in manufacturing from international companies and countries back to the United States to, guess what, return us to a manufacturing superpower.

00:14:00.240 President Trump's going to bring capital in the world.

00:14:01.080 President Trump's going up to part of the traditional Rust Belt, but Pennsylvania today to make his argument.

00:14:09.460 Orrin Kass is going to help us with that.

00:14:11.480 Also, at the same time, Zelensky threw his toys out of the pram yesterday in London meeting with a Starmer and McCrone and said,

00:14:22.800 hey no no territorial no territorial concessions i'm out we're not going to give up anything it's

00:14:28.080 going to be a deal president trump has worked for months and months and months and months and

00:14:32.800 months and today on data dash of burns at politico has an interview with him up where he just says

00:14:39.200 hey look there's no leadership in europe i don't even know what to do with these guys

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00:16:49.600 and be part of the movement so orrin cash the president heads today to pennsylvania and i think

00:16:56.240 you're seeing a lot of people said the president's got to focus more on on on domestic there is this

00:17:03.280 i believe it's indirectly linked to what he's doing in national security particularly trying to end

00:17:08.720 the beginning phase of the kinetic part of the third world war on the eurasian landmass in the

00:17:12.480 middle east but he is taking advice and i think president trump says hey look scott bessen's great

00:17:16.880 navarre's great has it's great let nick okay these guys i'm the one that can sell this and that's why

00:17:23.120 he's going to pennsylvania what say you sir well i think it's really important for him to get focused

00:17:29.280 on this and and really be driving a message that's that's about what what the economy needs and what

00:17:34.880 his policies are doing for it you know we've seen so much focus on the affordability question lately i

00:17:41.840 think what that comes down to ultimately is a realization people have that in the economy today

00:17:47.200 it's it's a struggle to make ends meet that for a very long time now that the direction of the

00:17:52.640 economy has not been one that provides better higher paying jobs for people that that let them

00:17:58.160 build good lives for themselves support their families and so you know i think obviously that's

00:18:03.920 a message that trump has has run on i think uh early on in in the administration the first few months

00:18:09.680 they they came in and focused a lot on that but then it's felt like over the past few months there's

00:18:14.160 been you know a lot more focus on foreign policy stuff there's there's been a lot of focus on on

00:18:20.080 some of this ai and tech stuff uh and in in the background we we still have the tariffs we still

00:18:25.200 have a lot of efforts to to focus on getting investment back in this country but but that has to be a

00:18:30.560 message he has to be telling the story here's how this is actually going to help and and no it doesn't

00:18:36.240 it doesn't help in one week right people say where are the manufacturing jobs well you you have to build

00:18:40.720 the factories first but there is a really good story to tell about the the commitments that

00:18:46.240 we're seeing to bringing investment back to this country uh and now i think what he needs to do is

00:18:50.960 pair that with okay what are the next steps what are the ways we're going to support that investment

00:18:54.880 what are the ways we're going to prepare people to do these kinds of jobs the the ecosystem the

00:18:59.600 training all that do you agree absolutely i said don't fall into the affordability trap because

00:19:04.720 inflation's cumulative what biden did you're not going to unwind this we almost impossible

00:19:09.920 to unwind that particularly if you're running two trillion dollar deficits every year's folks

00:19:13.200 and you got to refinance a third of it the the national debt it's going to be hard what you got

00:19:19.840 to do is stop remember inflation what you got to stop is what they've done is the accelerating

00:19:24.240 rate of inflation but the focus should be on because we made a bet and you're not going to be

00:19:29.280 able to unwind these bets you got to double and triple down it's on growth not just gdp growth

00:19:34.240 but gdp per capita it's on jobs high value added manufacturing jobs and the ecosystem that comes

00:19:40.800 around that would do it and it's wages and particularly higher wages we had the trifecta

00:19:46.080 in the uh summer fall and christmas season of 2019 right before we got hit with the ccp uh pandemic

00:19:54.960 that's the focus that's why i was going to to to pennsylvania but i wouldn't fall into the trap of

00:20:00.000 thinking you have to debate these guys every day on affordability that's just a trap they set for you

00:20:04.880 using biden's the deco of the biden economy as as their club i you get back to trump's best growth

00:20:12.240 jobs and higher wages sir yeah i think that's right and you know that's a question that comes

00:20:17.120 up sometimes like what are we going to do to bring prices back down right you we don't actually want

00:20:21.920 prices to fall you don't want to have deflation people among other things they'd suddenly see their

00:20:27.040 wages start to fall too and and no one would be happy with that and so you know the one important

00:20:32.640 thing to emphasize is that we are we are done with the biden inflation you know would you rather have

00:20:36.960 inflation at two percent than three percent yes that that should still be the goal but uh you know we

00:20:43.280 are not seeing the the kinds of disastrous inflation we had a few years ago people need to know though

00:20:50.080 how are things going to start getting better what what is the actually path to you know path to better

00:20:54.960 lives for them for their families and so you know like you said if you just get into this affordability

00:21:00.080 fight then then you end up with the president on the other side of it saying there is no affordability

00:21:04.400 problem uh and people are people aren't going to agree with that so you have to actually have a

00:21:10.000 positive story here's our theory of the case here's what we're doing to actually make things better

00:21:15.280 it doesn't happen overnight but we're on the right track and hopefully that's the story he'll he'll get

00:21:20.000 out there and be telling uh on on this trip and nobody's a better salesman of this than president

00:21:26.080 trump of his economic plan that being said he's got so much on his shoulders right now so much on his

00:21:30.480 plate oran where do people get to uh with american compass you got a great new book out that you've

00:21:36.320 edited all the all these different pieces you guys have written where do people go to get all your

00:21:40.000 content because you're kind of on the cutting edge of economic nationalism and economic populism sir

00:21:45.760 well i appreciate that the the book is called the new conservatives it's it's a great rundown i think

00:21:50.880 of everything that's happening on the right of center a lot lots of great contributors you know

00:21:54.640 ambassador lightheiser secretary rubio uh have have pieces in it and so uh you're frankly the perfect

00:22:01.360 christmas gift for for anyone in your life who wants to understand what's going on where we're headed

00:22:06.400 on the right of center uh you can find me on on x at oran underscore cass and please check out

00:22:12.720 american compass's publication it's called commonplace we're at commonplace.org uh we've

00:22:18.000 done a lot on this on this chips topic and and we're putting out a lot of stuff every week on on

00:22:22.560 exactly this set of challenges and the the things that really matter in america uh oran thank you so

00:22:29.520 much the cutting edge of all these different uh economic uh issues that uh that geopolitical issues

00:22:35.440 that we face thank you sir appreciate you great to see you thanks over american compass great work um

00:22:41.360 i got brad brad give me your assessment of the economy ships deal and then i gotta get uh i gotta

00:22:47.040 get harnwell in here before tuberville because i'm asking senator tuberville about zelinski throwing his

00:22:52.400 toys out of the pram what do you got for us day brad morning yeah well oran oran uh had it had it right

00:22:59.120 there uh we we have lost our representative uh republic we have lost the congress if you just look at the

00:23:06.320 money right just follow the money uh congress is not getting uh getting us out of any of the wars

00:23:11.600 we're in they just passed legislation that said we cannot uh downsize the nato troops to tens of

00:23:19.120 thousands of americans over in europe right and so when it comes down to it if you look at you know

00:23:26.240 five years ago we were all being censored and president trump was being censored now he's got the

00:23:31.120 guys in the dining room he's kind of in a in a hard spot because if you go against those guys

00:23:37.120 they just censor you again and so the solution when the republicans get in charge right when pelosi

00:23:42.400 gets in charge she was ruthless uh when the republics republicans get in charge we don't

00:23:46.960 believe in our first principles you have to downsize these monopolies and these oligarchs

00:23:52.880 and there's no way around it or the next time we lose power you know exactly what's going to hit us

00:23:57.360 uh nancy mace has a good uh piece uh on on the budget in the new york times today what the

00:24:03.200 democrats know that we don't know and she just goes over it it's it's very well done uh the leadership

00:24:09.200 a small number of leaders put together bills uh there's no amendments allowed there's no open

00:24:14.240 rules allowed anymore since 16 uh pelosi was ruthless our leadership doesn't take any ground when

00:24:21.360 we're in power we have bulletproof majorities on uh tons of issues uh that she lists uh let me see

00:24:28.160 if i can find them here here they are uh banning congressional stock trading 86 uh percent of voters

00:24:34.160 are in favor term limits 87 of adults in favor voter id 76 of people support these are bipartisan super

00:24:41.120 majority positions and yet our guys can't figure out how to put these in play right on immigration

00:24:48.160 where's the permanent piece where's the border wall where's the where's the legislation that makes

00:24:53.440 this stuff permanent uh now you got uh pritzker up in illinois just i think i read today uh thousands

00:25:01.520 and thousands of illegal criminals released uh under his watch and uh where's the congress on this

00:25:08.640 trump cannot do it all himself uh but we've we've got to retake our economy and put some basic principles

00:25:15.440 in place i i saw this uh monopoly merger of netflix uh along with warner brothers uh that's

00:25:22.480 problematic no matter how that thing goes now you've got obama susan rice is on the board of netflix

00:25:29.920 right what could go wrong with a monopoly position uh with netflix uh taking over warner brothers hbo

00:25:37.040 all of that the narrative monopoly uh and they they paid both obamas handsomely for uh movies they made

00:25:43.520 about them uh so it's not really the business right it's not like we're anti-business or anti-capitalist

00:25:49.360 we don't want the political tentacles in the middle of every single thing we're seeing the the chip deal

00:25:56.240 is absurd on its face as oran put it you can't put it any more clearly than that uh and we just got to

00:26:03.280 get our ducks in a row and and part of it is the pressure we need to put on these ceos right that's

00:26:09.040 steve that's why you're so good and why the show is so good you call out uh people uh individually

00:26:15.200 and the ceos need to start being called out they've they've been given carte blanche just like members

00:26:20.480 of congress to hide to hide under their desks uh make money up to the last minute right until taiwan

00:26:26.400 goes haywire and then they're gonna say oh my god we got a decouple and so uh it's politics entwined

00:26:32.480 with the economics uh and uh i think trump's gonna you know be decisive in the coming weeks he's

00:26:39.360 getting the word he's getting the memo what's going on and uh so i'm looking forward to his comments

00:26:44.320 yeah we'll start today in uh in pennsylvania ben harnwell we got about a minute team me up uh

00:26:49.040 the audience what happened in london zelinski threw his toys out of the pram why um because he

00:26:56.960 wasn't getting what he wanted uh what he really desperately needs is u.s support that's the only

00:27:02.080 credible military support that's going to win the war for him and the europeans are reduced to the

00:27:09.040 gesture and theatrics of offering solidarity based on their stealing effectively russian frozen assets to

00:27:17.680 the tune of 78 billion sterling it's about less than 100 uh uh billion dollars a significant amount

00:27:26.160 the russians putin lavrov say that will be an act of war against russia on part of the europeans

00:27:31.360 after the break steve i'll break this down more um but we're not heading towards peace right now

00:27:37.840 we're not heading towards peace but i think president trump you saw from the from the uh

00:27:44.400 uh the interview with politico dasher burns i think he's i think he's fed up with these europeans

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00:29:08.320 entertain a motion mr chairman i'll make a motion to deny the application based on staff comments and what

00:29:15.120 what we've heard this evening second second i have a motion second all all in favor say aye aye all the

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00:29:58.640 the folks in alabama are not sitting back and going to let these things happen to them they

00:30:11.600 you they're using their agency so whether we're talking about dear more in michigan or uh what's

00:30:17.280 happened in minneapolis or what's happened with mom donnie you know doing videos showing the illegal

00:30:22.160 aliens how they basically fight ice agents on deportations or in the great state of texas which

00:30:28.800 is ramping up now governor abbott is now declared the muslim brotherhood a terrorist organization and care

00:30:34.560 a terrorist organization desantis followed i think yesterday declared both terrorist organizations at the

00:30:40.640 same time you got you know laura loomers up with a piece people should read on her twitter about cash is

00:30:46.240 over in um in uh doha and we're signing uh we're signing joint memorandums of understanding between

00:30:53.440 qatar and the fbi on joint investigations uh maybe somebody will get to the hopefully in that

00:30:58.720 investigation to find out if qatar is still financing the muslim brotherhood and supplying logistics for

00:31:04.400 them because that's a question we absolutely have to have answered and we have to have it answered

00:31:08.160 quickly since they're underwriting gaza they're in partnership with turkey uh a big part of the

00:31:13.200 peace in israel is going to come from qatar and turkey and that's going to be put on the table

00:31:18.240 and kind of explain to people as we go forward senator tuberville joins us senator tuberville

00:31:24.720 what in the hell happened in alabama and why why did it take folks in alabama to stand up and say this

00:31:31.120 is not going to happen on our watch and it's certainly not going to happen in our town sir well thank you

00:31:36.480 steve uh people have to wake up and and it's fortunate that we've had we've got some strong people

00:31:42.720 in hoover alabama that did just that they stepped up this is a prime example steve of why you know

00:31:49.440 people need to be very concerned about uh people from other countries running for election in city

00:31:56.720 councils city commissions zoning commissions because they are going to control our communities uh in our

00:32:03.360 states and it's going to ramp up and it's going to intermingle with everything and with all 50 states

00:32:09.280 in our great countries so i'm proud of the people of hoover i'm proud of the people that went to the

00:32:14.400 meetings the zoning meeting says enough's enough we're not building a uh a building here an education

00:32:21.040 building that preaches the quran and sharia law we're not going to do it because they preach to hate

00:32:27.280 america and hate our country and hate the people that live in the community so i'm very proud of

00:32:32.240 well what is it what did it finally take to get average citizens because you've seen what's

00:32:39.040 happened in minneapolis you know biden and obama and these administrations and quite frankly we we

00:32:44.480 haven't dealt with it tough enough i mean omar to me should be denaturalized put in prison here and

00:32:48.880 then shipped back to somaya you see what's happening there and this scandal is huge it's now in maine

00:32:54.720 you see mondami is sitting there mocking us to our face doing videos now showing illegal aliens how they

00:33:01.120 combat the ice agents uh to combat the removal what was it about the folks in uh in hoover alabama

00:33:09.600 that what what is it about them they finally said we're not going to do this anymore we don't care

00:33:13.600 if because they're coming to and they attack them when they stand up in those meetings they get

00:33:17.040 attacked afterwards as being haters and uh xenophobes and nativists uh and christian nationalists

00:33:23.680 what was it about them and what was it about this quote-unquote education center

00:33:27.920 that finally hit their tripwire yeah well a lot of them and i've talked to people in the hoover area

00:33:33.280 that actually watch shows like yours and other shows across the country they don't watch mainstream

00:33:38.000 media because you don't get the the the real picture of what's going on uh but they've seen this

00:33:44.000 small school uh this uh islamic school in their community and they've seen it pick up speed and

00:33:52.320 starting to grow and what happened is they wanted to enlarge this school uh to start accepting more

00:33:58.880 people in even people that weren't islamic to to start indoctrinate them in the things that they

00:34:04.320 want them to believe and so they said enough's enough and and again we have to talk about it

00:34:10.400 we have to stand up and fight for what we believe in uh these people now there's some people come over

00:34:16.160 from some of these countries that that want to come here for a better life and they're going to

00:34:20.240 assimilate and go by the things that we believe in go by our constitution the muslim group steve this

00:34:27.040 is world war three okay and it's going to be on our soil and it's coming so fast within five or ten

00:34:32.720 years it is going to be way out of control we have a prime example of this europe europe is gone and it

00:34:41.280 they will have to fight in the streets to get it back and that's coming and so we do not want that

00:34:47.280 to happen here and the people of alabama the people of hoover saw this and they want to stop

00:34:52.160 it before it really gets started don't let the fire start and get out of control and i'm so proud

00:34:57.600 of what they did you talk about people awakening i mean on this show the the folks of when it happened

00:35:03.920 in hoover every summer we got to get the hoover people on here we got to do a show about them

00:35:07.360 because they're showing about how populism works but president trump you know the national security

00:35:13.200 strategy the first part not the military but the overall strategy came out and he said hey in 20

00:35:19.040 years you've got a civilization collapse in europe we don't even know who to partner with or what

00:35:24.960 deals we can cut there because we don't know who's in charge the people in the united states senate

00:35:29.840 understand that the people that keep trying to throw all this unbelievable amount of money and

00:35:34.240 resources and troops into the european situation when they will not defend themselves sir yeah well

00:35:43.280 i heard you talking about ukraine before this and the and and the out of control war that's been over

00:35:48.960 there for four years that should have really never happened it was caused really by europe uh by nato and

00:35:54.400 by us uh you know cia behind the scenes that overthrew the government back in what 2014 and so we've been

00:36:00.720 watching people get slaughtered over their right and left on both sides they don't have a country

00:36:04.960 now they've lost half their population as you said a couple million people have either lost their

00:36:09.600 lives or been maimed uh but all that happens because you don't you don't talk about it uh what happens

00:36:15.440 up here in washington dc is we don't talk about it uh i will give a speech this week on the floor my

00:36:21.360 third one about uh this radical uh terrorism islamic terrorism and i'm taking heat from from a lot

00:36:28.160 of people even some from some of my people because hey this coach this is an election year well who

00:36:32.800 cares we're not going to have an election year in a few years if we don't start talking and fighting

00:36:38.240 back now now is the time to do it talk to us about that you're giving speeches on the floor of the senate

00:36:44.800 as the united states senator from alabama you're talking about radical jihad and islamic radicalism

00:36:51.520 and people in the senate are coming up to you and saying you got to tone this down

00:36:56.160 well they all i can tell you is uh the rhetoric uh is want they want it to be positive you know

00:37:04.320 what i'm saying they want everything to be positive going into election year well i'm on the ballot i'm

00:37:08.720 not on the senate ballot i'm on the governor ballot uh of alabama and it doesn't bother me because if the

00:37:14.080 people don't want me to come back there and speak the truth and say listen we're going to save our state

00:37:20.960 uh then uh i don't need to be there uh you know if they want don't want me to fight out they don't

00:37:25.920 they don't need me there but same thing with with senators don't ride the fence tell them how it is

00:37:31.360 tell the people in your state how it is and if you don't get re-elected go home get you another job

00:37:35.360 that's the way i look at it what about you know mike lee sent us some information we're going to have

00:37:40.720 him on hopefully this afternoon maybe tomorrow about the mega this whole fight to try to stop spending

00:37:46.640 and to try to get these deficits down because we can't continue on at two trillion dollar deficits

00:37:50.720 annually but what i'm hearing is that there's some sort of spending bill that's trying to come

00:37:54.800 together behind the scenes and put forward it's a it's a mega bus uh it's not an omnibus but it's

00:38:00.560 close to it but it's got just an incredible amount of spending in it no real cuts to it at all anything

00:38:05.840 you can share with us of what's going to happen here yeah there's a few cuts to it now we've passed

00:38:11.280 there's 12 appropriation bills we've passed three that's the first three we've passed by the way

00:38:15.680 since i've been here in almost six years uh and so they passed those now we've got have five more

00:38:21.120 that we'll try to pass in the next couple of weeks now what does that mean if we can pass those five

00:38:26.560 bills they they won't have the ability to shut the government down when it comes to january because

00:38:31.760 the democrats are going to do that they're going to shut it down again because they feel like that

00:38:35.440 that's a winning move for them and it's really not uh you know they were the reason that we shut down

00:38:40.720 the government for 43 days but if uh there is a lot of spending in this steve there's way too much

00:38:46.160 spending we don't go over it and try to cut back a certain percentage uh you know if you look at

00:38:52.320 uh senators like rand paul who wants to cut you know one percent every year two percent uh there's

00:38:58.000 no traction to that because why is that because people get re-elected on the money that they spend

00:39:03.200 up here but at the end of the day it's gonna get us all in trouble it's already got us in trouble

00:39:07.200 38 trillion and counting every three months we add another trillion on uh it's going to be

00:39:12.400 devastating to the young people in our country even to us steve as we we're seeing everything ramp

00:39:17.680 up in terms of prices going up everybody says prices are going up president trump's not helping

00:39:22.560 wait a minute prices go up when the federal government spends more money people need to wake up

00:39:29.600 that's what happens up here is there any discussion behind the scene with your colleagues understanding

00:39:35.440 the financial cliff that we're we're hurtling towards and you just can't it can't be business

00:39:40.160 as usual is there any discussion on that at all oh yeah yeah there's a lot of discussion we talk about

00:39:45.600 it and we are we our group now the 53 that we have for the most part are physically responsible want

00:39:52.560 to cut back want to do what the american people want is try to save this country from uh a financial

00:39:58.240 collapse which is coming uh there's a there's more than more here than than not the problem is

00:40:05.040 it takes 60 votes to get anything done and uh people ask me you know coach you're not getting

00:40:10.800 anything done up there well you put something on the floor you're not gonna get one vote from the

00:40:14.560 democrats so i'm gonna say this i was totally against busting the filibuster a few years ago

00:40:20.480 because i saw how the democrats act but now knowing that the democrats the very first day when they

00:40:25.360 take over and it's gonna happen sooner or later they're gonna bust a filibuster and it's gonna be

00:40:29.520 be a 51 vote count uh i'm for doing it right now i'm for saving our country getting people elected

00:40:35.760 getting all these bills passed that president trump must pass through the voting regulations

00:40:40.240 to where we can get back and people can trust our country's elections when we have them next fall

00:40:45.280 if we don't do that uh we'll probably lose the house uh the way things are going right now and

00:40:50.080 even could lose the senate uh but uh these voting rules have to be changed and the only way we can

00:40:55.440 get it done steve is bust the filibuster with 51 votes in the senate you you came and you were

00:41:00.880 traditional so that's why you didn't want to do it or is there anybody else joining you are we close at

00:41:05.840 all to uh to uh changing the filibuster do you think we even have close to the votes i think we could get

00:41:12.720 right now uh probably uh more than half uh maybe closer to 60 65 percent when we sat down and really

00:41:20.000 talked about it because it's going to mean a lot of the futures up here of the senators they're not

00:41:24.800 going to get reelected i mean we we can fool ourselves if we don't do something and show the

00:41:29.360 american people we're here to get something done for them we don't work for the senate we work for the

00:41:33.440 american people if we don't show them to do that a lot of these people are going to get voted out

00:41:37.600 and it might not be this year coming up but it's going to be years of the future

00:41:41.040 because uh what's going to happen is there's going to be accumulation of

00:41:45.040 bad things that are going to happen because we haven't done anything like this uh unaffordable

00:41:49.520 health care that we have we can't do anything about it because the the uh we can't change it

00:41:53.920 because the democrats won't allow us because of 60 votes if we don't show the american people

00:41:58.640 the heck with the the so-called tradition of what we do here in the senate and just take it on and say

00:42:04.480 listen we're going to change this country the way it should be the way our forefathers wanted to be

00:42:09.440 and if it breaks our tradition and hurt somebody's feelings fine but at the end of the day we better

00:42:14.880 start working for the american people and quit worrying about a united states senate tradition

00:42:20.320 uh senator tuberville where do people go on social media to get you sir

00:42:24.480 at senator tuberville for senator and then at coach for gov running for governor now i've got a year

00:42:30.240 left here i'm looking forward to working with president trump and steve we're in a this next year

00:42:35.120 will be more lawsuits more trials more tribulation and more things that will happen whether we're

00:42:42.400 going to save our country and not save it because we can't wait another year on the physical ability

00:42:47.440 and also this muslim overtake of our country senator tuberville thank you for the stark warning

00:42:53.840 appreciate you taking time away today to join us thank you thank you

00:42:58.720 senator tuberville listen and take that to heart folks short break

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00:44:33.040 i'm gonna go to brian glenn in a moment uh with uh at the white house about president's trip today

00:44:40.160 before i do that ben um i had to bring you into this because of senator tuberville what happened

00:44:45.040 in hoover alabama folks ended up and president and senator tuberville said hey they're gonna be

00:44:49.840 war in the streets in europe in five or ten years president trump's national security strategy said 20

00:44:56.080 years uh liz trust we had it on the other day she said she thought that was optimistic

00:45:01.040 right that it would happen sooner than that um your thoughts are particularly given this ukraine

00:45:07.360 situation and one of the reasons that there's no money no troops and president trump and he just was

00:45:13.440 with dash of burns i'll play a little later in the next hour was dumping all over the european

00:45:17.600 leadership is because he's saying hey they've kind of lost their own countries thoughts sir

00:45:23.680 so much to unpack in that in that question steve first of all i have to pay tribute to senator

00:45:29.200 tubberville and what he's done in alabama enforcing this islamic academy of alabama to drop its

00:45:36.080 relocation plans um he single-handedly i think made a massive contribution to his home state there

00:45:43.120 alabama is the quintessential part of the bible built where i say this is a good catholic um but

00:45:48.880 that's exactly how alabama should remain um and i'd hate to see the word broken up with a hyphen

00:45:55.920 dropped in alabama uh becoming part of the quran belt um so close that move on to the uh strategic

00:46:06.080 the the strategic review that was dropped a couple of days ago by the white house you know um president

00:46:13.280 the white house uh echoing president trump's thinking that made a very astute point here and

00:46:19.680 they were saying that the um that the demographic changes in continental europe is having a consequence

00:46:27.760 on our domestic policy priorities and that has an influence as well with regards to nato and that's

00:46:34.080 an absolutely um uh that that point is spot on steve um you look at france for example and that's

00:46:43.200 it's national policy now it's domestic policy also it's it's external policy it's foreign policy is

00:46:49.520 totally uh dictated now by the fact that most of of paris uh in terms of ethnic descent is coming from

00:46:58.720 north africa that has reorientated the the capital and paris has always been uh the the the the lead

00:47:06.320 as far as france as a country is concerned has reorientated the the capital and the whole nation

00:47:13.680 of one of the eu's fundamental countries towards the islamic sphere and that has consequences for for

00:47:21.200 nato and trump president trump was absolutely spot on to mention that moving on to ukraine because all

00:47:27.200 of these things tied together actually um around this point around the nato point we mentioned this just

00:47:32.880 before the break before uh uh senator tuberville the um president zelensky threw his toys out of the

00:47:41.520 plan as you say yesterday in dining street in the white house um and effectively i would say it's it's

00:47:48.160 the um the metaphorical equivalent of spitting directly in president trump's face that's what i'd say

00:47:54.640 that he's done president trump has invested so much time and energy since he was inaugurated to

00:48:00.960 finding a peaceful resolution of this war and zelensky threw it back in his face um simultaneously

00:48:09.120 whilst trying to prepare the ground to bring the united states back into this war um because that's

00:48:14.880 the only feasible way he has of winning and maintaining the position which he announced

00:48:20.880 yesterday that there will be no territorial concessions in the donbass why do i say steve that

00:48:26.720 all of these things are tied together because even though we have you know i don't want to say that

00:48:32.400 that we we were perhaps skeptical on the success of the 28 point plan let's call it like that on this

00:48:38.880 show skeptical of the success it now appears that that 28 point plan uh is in the dustbin um but the

00:48:46.640 fundamental reason that the europeans are still sort of walking along with their gangster swagger with

00:48:52.880 regards to russia um is that they're because it's the whole nato dynamic steve they can afford to to

00:48:59.920 do this instead of building sort of constructive relations with russia trying to regular regularize

00:49:07.360 that relationship they're still uh they're doing the gangster swagger because america is still uh via

00:49:14.720 nato effectively underwriting continental europe's security and stability so i would say steve on this

00:49:23.200 show i would say first of all the president has got to say i think now's the time um after nearly 11

00:49:30.080 months 10 11 months of hard work on trying to produce a peace agreement he needs to say america is

00:49:36.800 out guys have at it if you think you can know to the europeans have at it if you think you can win this

00:49:41.760 war do it if you don't don't we're out but the second thing steve and i and i say this one time

00:49:47.520 to start on the show is that i think it is astoundingly obvious especially after the national

00:49:52.960 security document um about a couple of days ago it is no longer in america's long-term interests to be

00:50:02.000 a member of nato i'm not saying nato should be dissolved it has a purpose if it is maintained and

00:50:08.080 financed by the european nations but america the united states has absolutely no benefit through

00:50:13.840 this membership as i say occasionally and i hand back to you on this point what you know

00:50:18.800 i think they let sweden in um for example uh you know you've got lithuania there you've got these

00:50:25.200 baltic countries in what worldly scenario is that going to be necessary for the the salvation of america

00:50:33.520 in in in in a military theater of war what situation is there ever going to be where america

00:50:39.680 is about to bubble under and then they say oh what's that dust kicking up on the horizon thank

00:50:44.720 god it's the cavalry it's the lithuanians they're coming to save us the whole thing steve it's a hoax

00:50:50.400 this idea of pooling massively asymmetrically uh paired countries together because the risk is

00:50:59.200 asymmetric that's the thing america needs to come out of the nate come out of nato encourage the

00:51:04.880 europeans to to step forward and embrace with maturity their own needs and then make that sell

00:51:11.920 to the european peoples if that's what they think is going to be in their interest yeah they'll get

00:51:17.680 turfed out because that would mean no national health care no free college no a month of august off

00:51:24.000 no retirements at 50 any of it okay ben harner will hang there uh we're going to have a more

00:51:30.640 even a more intense hour next hour than we just had brats gonna stick around harnwell's gonna stick

00:51:36.160 around we're going to the white house brian glenn the president is doing a pivot today going to

00:51:41.920 pennsylvania with all these issues in the world and this is this i think kind of sums it up people are

00:51:48.720 talking about giving ukraine their security and guaranteeing their security and guaranteeing their

00:51:54.240 sovereignty on just a moment's notice boom zelinski sits there with president trump these kind of

00:52:01.120 agreements these understandings about the territory have been from the beginning and just out of nowhere

00:52:05.280 no we're not giving them an inch you can't trust them you can't depend upon them it's not possible

00:52:12.240 it's time to cut it loose and let them go figure it out cut it loose and figure it out

00:52:16.480 the president heads to the commonwealth of pennsylvania brian glenn is with us at the white

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Bannon's War Room - December 09, 2025

Episode 4983： Losing The Representative Republic; Victory Against Islam In Alabama

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