Bannon's War Room - December 12, 2025


Episode 4993： What Comes Next For AI And The Techno-Oligarchs; Security Guarantees For Ukraine

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Steve Bannon
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Trump John Brennan Nicolas Maduro David Sachs Patriot Mobile Getter Doc Pete Chambers Brendan Steinhauser Paul Kagame Charlie Kirk Ben Harnwell Ted Cruz Goliath Reagan Abbott Austin Glenn Sora Maria Karina Machado Steven K. Bam and 29 more
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Former Vice President Joe Biden joins Stephen K. Bannon in the War Room to discuss his new role as the President of the Texas Rangers and his new position as the Governor of Texas, Rick Perry's replacement as Governor, and his vision for the future of Texas.

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00:00:00.000 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:00:07.000 Pray for our enemies.
00:00:09.000 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:00:12.000 Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:00:16.000 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:00:18.000 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:00:20.000 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that, but you're not going to stop it.
00:00:22.000 It's going to happen.
00:00:24.000 And where do people like that go to share the big lie?
00:00:27.000 Mega Media.
00:00:29.000 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:00:34.000 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:00:38.000 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:00:44.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.
00:00:53.000 Okay, Colonel. By the way, you go by Colonel or you go by Doc?
00:00:56.000 Go by Doc. It's the term of endearment my boys gave me at first combat deployment in Iraq.
00:01:03.000 They call Doc. You better run.
00:01:05.000 You better run.
00:01:06.000 So, listen, why are you doing this?
00:01:08.000 What are the two or three priorities, as you see it, in the state of Texas that Abbott can't do?
00:01:15.000 And why does it have to be you?
00:01:18.000 Well, first of all, I was asked by a group of people to explore the idea.
00:01:23.000 When I called General Flynn, when I called Allen West, when I called people that are serious in this business of security,
00:01:30.000 which is really the baseline of it all for us, for me.
00:01:33.000 It's like Eisenhower coming in, another Texan coming in after World War II and leading into the Cold War and really setting the conditions for Reagan's.
00:01:44.000 By the way, Reagan is the first president I served under.
00:01:47.000 I was asked, of course, I prayed about it.
00:01:50.000 The most dangerous prey can pray. 0.98
00:01:52.000 Lord, your will be done.
00:01:53.000 Well, here I am.
00:01:54.000 Now, you can't jump out of a plane and go back in as a paratrooper.
00:01:57.000 So, we're on the ground, but we are making headway.
00:02:00.000 Abbott's ratings right now are at 30%, favorability ratings, University of Texas study.
00:02:06.000 So, for me, we're going to bring them onto our battlefield, the tactic, if you will. 0.99
00:02:11.000 What can I do differently?
00:02:13.000 I will provide serious security for the state.
00:02:15.000 I will improve the Texas State Guard commensurate with at least, minimum, what Florida has right now, the State Guard.
00:02:22.000 That is the state militia.
00:02:23.000 16 states have them underneath the Texas Military Department for me.
00:02:28.000 And then I will, I will then shut the border when, if and when, when, something else after President Trump comes in.
00:02:37.000 I don't know who it's going to be.
00:02:38.000 We don't work in a reactionary type of situation when we're trying to protect citizens.
00:02:44.000 We have to be left of bang, if you will.
00:02:46.000 That's the idea in the road.
00:02:47.000 We've got to be left.
00:02:48.000 Hit it before.
00:02:49.000 So, we've got to be prepared for that.
00:02:51.000 So, we must build a robust State Guard system.
00:02:53.000 It's there.
00:02:54.000 It serves as a different capacity.
00:02:56.000 But we need to bring it back up to what it was.
00:02:59.000 Then you have to have the fiscal security.
00:03:01.000 But understand the other vectors of attack.
00:03:03.000 In Texas, water is a commodity.
00:03:05.000 It is a commodity.
00:03:07.000 But there are 300 right now that I know about AI data centers on their way into Texas.
00:03:12.000 I don't know about you, but I can draw a picture of a glass of water, but I can't drink anything that AI can produce.
00:03:18.000 And honestly, they use hundreds of millions of gallons of water and they're putting one in Abilene right now that gets 18 inches of rain.
00:03:25.000 The citizens don't like it because it was a backroom deal in Austin.
00:03:29.000 Austin doesn't live in the periphery.
00:03:30.000 Austin has a different mentality. 0.90
00:03:32.000 Our legislators in Austin are mostly rhinos. 0.88
00:03:34.000 There are some good ones in there, but they're in the minority.
00:03:37.000 Byron Harrison is one of them leading the charge on letting out.
00:03:40.000 He's another sentinel, if you will.
00:03:42.000 He's a watchman.
00:03:43.000 And so, we get more and more like that.
00:03:45.000 We can shift the tide.
00:03:46.000 Why can I do that?
00:03:47.000 I don't know everything there is to know with regard to taxes, but I got the smartest people in the state working on it.
00:03:53.000 I do understand that leadership is the bottom line on how to be responsible for everything that happens and fails to happen.
00:04:00.000 And then delegate out as appropriate to the smartest people in the room.
00:04:05.000 You are hitting on something.
00:04:07.000 It's the data centers.
00:04:08.000 It's not just the energy.
00:04:09.000 It's the water and particularly the aquifers in West Texas and Arizona are going to be sucked dry.
00:04:15.000 Are the people awakening to the issue?
00:04:18.000 I mean, the EO last night we talked about is now they've accommodated the four C's, one's community, and it's about these data centers.
00:04:27.000 The data centers themselves, what they emit, the energy that you've got to come up with, and how that's going to impact the people.
00:04:35.000 And then the water, which is really now in Arizona and Texas, if it's not a big deal, it better start being a big deal because these things are going to suck those aquifers dry.
00:04:45.000 Are folks waking up to that fact?
00:04:47.000 So the study on that specifically shows that West Texas will be dry water by 2050.
00:04:52.000 I got grandkids.
00:04:53.000 We all got family.
00:04:54.000 We want to make sure they can have that same water.
00:04:56.000 State of Kansas, I'm looking at a study there.
00:04:58.000 They've done for the last 10 years, moving water from the aquifer, not only aquifer, but the Ogallala on an aqueduct to the ranching areas.
00:05:07.000 We can start working on that now to step in the gap, but we've got to slow down the amount of AI data centers coming in.
00:05:13.000 I've got nothing against technology, but I do when it's deleterious to the survival of the species.
00:05:21.000 And we've got ranchers out there in Lubbock.
00:05:23.000 I speak to them all the time.
00:05:24.000 My family is a cotton, you know, family generations, generations of it. 1.00
00:05:28.000 Speaking of the cotton farmers, the ranchers, they're like, we won't be able to give water to our cattle or produce the products that we need. 1.00
00:05:35.000 And Texas has a huge cattle industry.
00:05:37.000 We've got to maintain it.
00:05:38.000 So those data centers have to produce a net positive.
00:05:42.000 Let's move it down to the coast. 0.57
00:05:44.000 We can put a desalination plan in.
00:05:46.000 How are you going to go up against, doesn't Abbott have $40 million or some enormous amount of money in his war chest?
00:05:55.000 He does.
00:05:56.000 He does.
00:05:57.000 I take it you don't have $40 million.
00:05:58.000 So how are you going to, this is David and Goliath.
00:06:01.000 David versus Goliath.
00:06:02.000 Tell me how David's going to win.
00:06:04.000 I like that you said that he picked up five smooth stones.
00:06:07.000 And his odds, if you just looked on the terra, were zero until he, until he hit him right in square in the middle of that face.
00:06:13.000 So for me, we have to bring in like Thermopylae or, or like San Jacinto.
00:06:18.000 You know, the last battle that really sent Santa Ana running in Texas was San Jacinto.
00:06:23.000 A small army under Sam Houston beat them, had them on the run in 18 minutes and they captured the commander.
00:06:29.000 You've got to fight on your battlefield.
00:06:31.000 So for me, I've got to get, uh, as, as Alan West will tell you, and Chad Prather, Don Huffines, who ran against Abbott the last time, they split the vote.
00:06:40.000 We won't do that this time.
00:06:41.000 They, uh, they had 1.6 million out of 20 million nearly voters in Texas that voted in an off cycle primary.
00:06:48.000 So that's our Thermopylae.
00:06:49.000 That's our battlefield.
00:06:50.000 We know that we have to, we have to get at least, and if they get a very, every veteran in Texas to vote, that's 2 million veterans.
00:06:57.000 We win this thing.
00:06:58.000 And that's, that's how we do this.
00:06:59.000 We have to target those individuals that, that really are these, the winter soldiers and not the summer soldiers.
00:07:06.000 Uh, Doc, Pete Chambers, where do people go?
00:07:10.000 Uh, your social media, where they go to your website.
00:07:13.000 People want to find out more about you, where they go.
00:07:15.000 Yes, sir.
00:07:16.000 Doc Pete Chambers on X, and we have other, other forms out there.
00:07:20.000 And then, uh, that's, that's our, uh, that's our ministry team.
00:07:23.000 And then if you go to docpetechambers.org, there you go.
00:07:28.000 That is the, uh, I'm running for senior public servant.
00:07:31.000 Governor is just a little too British for me.
00:07:33.000 So we're running for senior public servant.
00:07:35.000 Governor.
00:07:36.000 Governor.
00:07:38.000 Governor.
00:07:39.000 Colonel.
00:07:40.000 Love you.
00:07:41.000 Uh, we'll look forward to having you back on.
00:07:42.000 Good fight.
00:07:43.000 Thank you, sir.
00:07:44.000 Good to see you, sir.
00:07:45.000 God bless.
00:07:46.000 That's an American right there.
00:07:47.000 Eric Prince.
00:07:50.000 That's the kind of guy that's, that's the kind of guy you want to see running for public
00:07:53.000 office.
00:07:54.000 Correct.
00:07:55.000 Indeed.
00:07:56.000 You need warriors like that.
00:07:59.000 Guys are prepared to take on long shots.
00:08:03.000 It's not the size of the dog of a fight.
00:08:05.000 It's the size of a fight in the dog.
00:08:08.000 Well, let's talk about that.
00:08:10.000 President Trump, he's, he, he got handed to him the kinetic part of the third world war.
00:08:18.000 And it's actually broader than just what's happening on the Eurasian landmass in Ukraine
00:08:22.000 in the Middle East.
00:08:23.000 You had all this problem down in Latin America.
00:08:25.000 You've got problems in Africa. 0.72
00:08:27.000 Now, the United States, one of the things about America first and President Trump, he,
00:08:31.000 he doesn't want to be an interventionist.
00:08:33.000 He's trying not to be an interventionist.
00:08:35.000 But as he tries to solve these around the world, I don't think, you know, the, the seven
00:08:38.000 or eight conflicts he's brought to some stage of peace and solved.
00:08:43.000 I don't think people understand the, the, the depths of some of these.
00:08:49.000 I want to start off first with Venezuela, because you've had a plan about Venezuela for
00:08:53.000 a long time.
00:08:54.000 You've talked about it.
00:08:55.000 Is President Trump now seizing these vessels?
00:08:58.000 That, that's something that you and I talked about many years ago.
00:09:02.000 Is that along the lines of some, of something that you think can actually solve the problem
00:09:07.000 with Madero and send the message to him?
00:09:09.000 It's time for him to move on. 0.95
00:09:11.000 So, Venezuela is a great example of, you can vote in socialism, but you have to shoot your
00:09:17.000 way out of it.
00:09:18.000 So, a year ago, July, Madero lost that election by 40 points.
00:09:25.000 And he has refused to turn over power.
00:09:28.000 And he has really installed himself as a dictator.
00:09:31.000 And the, the narco money, right?
00:09:35.000 There's 34 drug, commercial drug production facilities, commercial narcotics production
00:09:40.000 facilities in Venezuela.
00:09:42.000 So there's lots of reasons for Trump to have high concern about the, that primary tumor site
00:09:49.000 in South America.
00:09:52.000 As he's dialed up pressure by sending U.S. 0.93
00:09:56.000 Naval and Air Force assets down there to patrol, with rightfully interdicting a lot of the maritime
00:10:04.000 drug traffic.
00:10:05.000 And now he's started to go after one of the, I think there's 52 complete gray black market oil 0.75
00:10:14.000 trading vessels, which are hauling sanctioned illegal crude on stateless vessels.
00:10:20.000 Meaning, they constantly change the registration, falsify the registration of these vessels,
00:10:26.000 which under any kind of international maritime law, they can be boarded and seized as pirate
00:10:32.000 vessels, which is exactly what they just did this week.
00:10:35.000 And that is an excellent strategy exhalation to clamp down on Madero's ability to fund his
00:10:43.000 illicit government.
00:10:44.000 Now, at the same time, you have Maria Carina Machado, who was well smuggled out of the
00:10:50.000 country in some kind of a maritime exfil, probably through a bunch of checkpoints by boat to
00:10:56.000 Curacao, a Dutch island off the northwest of Venezuela, and then jet to Norway, where she
00:11:04.000 receives the Nobel Prize for her valiant pursuit of representative democratic elected government.
00:11:11.000 I hope that that kind of pressure campaign works and that it convinces Maduro to leave.
00:11:20.000 I hope it does.
00:11:22.000 I'm not convinced it will until something goes bang in the Capitol, that Maduro and Diestato
00:11:30.000 Cabello and Pedrino, the Minister of Defense, Jorge and Delce Rodriguez, all of those people must
00:11:39.000 go.
00:11:40.000 They are all of the same cartel.
00:11:44.000 And Trump is right.
00:11:46.000 To not be interventionist means, it doesn't mean you have to become a complete pacifist,
00:11:50.000 that you're unable or unwilling to actually use force to correct your wrong if it is demonstrably
00:11:57.000 in American national interest.
00:11:59.000 Well, let's go to that.
00:12:01.000 The national security strategy memo, and you had a lot of input into the first administration
00:12:06.000 where we've talked about China and Russia.
00:12:10.000 And this national security memo that kicked off will have the military strategy coming off
00:12:14.000 of that.
00:12:15.000 One of the biggest things is that Europe and NATO came last.
00:12:18.000 They were like on page 29 of 33 at the beginning was hemispheric defense.
00:12:23.000 For those who are sitting there going, hey, you know, I voted for President Trump because
00:12:26.000 I'm America first.
00:12:28.000 He's America first. 0.73
00:12:29.000 Or he told me he's America first.
00:12:31.000 I don't know why we're getting involved in this.
00:12:33.000 Is it part of, and they call it the Trump corollary.
00:12:36.000 It's Monroe Doctrine 2.0, hemispheric defense.
00:12:39.000 But the corollary is that in Latin America, we're just not going to be passive anymore.
00:12:44.000 We're going to be actually active and kind of full spectrum dominance down there to make
00:12:49.000 sure that in our backyard, you're not going to have involvement in the Chinese Communist
00:12:53.000 Party or other foreign actors or even domestic actors down there that are stirring up Marxism,
00:12:59.000 communism, anti-Americanism.
00:13:01.000 Is that, we got about a minute in this.
00:13:03.000 I want to hold you through the break.
00:13:04.000 Is that, is that the rationale for being so engaged militarily off of Venezuela?
00:13:10.000 It's not just those foreign actors.
00:13:12.000 It's also multinational, truly overmatching international Marco cartels.
00:13:19.000 And that's that you have a combination of those between a committed leftist, right?
00:13:25.000 The Cubans have thousands of advisors and security personnel in Venezuela, keeping Maduro in power.
00:13:32.000 While at the same time at a commercial industrial scale, they are trans shipping and processing tons and tons of
00:13:40.000 narcotics coming out of the rest of Latin America out through Venezuela to the world.
00:13:45.000 Trump is right to take a stand on this.
00:13:47.000 And a gradual escalation is good.
00:13:51.000 I think he should also just make an announcement that there's a bounty for Maduro that says up to 50 million for information
00:13:59.000 leading to the arrest of Nicholas Maduro.
00:14:01.000 So I think you should just be very clear and say 50 million dead or alive, go old school on them.
00:14:06.000 And that will stimulate one of the 3000 generals of Venezuela to bring in Maduro in in zip ties or in a plastic bag.
00:14:16.000 Uh, Eric Prince, I'm going to ask you to stay through the break.
00:14:20.000 Our original gangster, the OG Eric Prince is joining us.
00:14:24.000 We're going to talk a little bit.
00:14:25.000 We're going to talk about Ukraine, uh, the Middle East.
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00:16:58.000 Eric Prince is going to stick with us, but I want to bring Brendan Steinhauser in for the Alliance for Safe or Secure Artificial Intelligence.
00:17:07.000 Brendan, I know you've got to bounce, but I just want your thoughts on the executive order at least sets up a process.
00:17:13.000 And they say it's not preemption.
00:17:15.000 There's going to be a regulatory apparatus.
00:17:17.000 You're in the middle of this fight.
00:17:19.000 What say you about the EO, your first take on it?
00:17:22.000 And what is your guidance to this audience about how we get into this regulatory apparatus, exactly what we need to make sure that we've got a safe and secure artificial intelligence, sir?
00:17:37.000 Absolutely.
00:17:38.000 Well, it's great to be back.
00:17:39.000 I think that, look, everyone watching, we made a tremendous impact in this discussion and in this debate, and we need to keep fighting.
00:17:46.000 It kind of reminds me of the Churchill speech before Parliament where he talks about fighting on the beaches, fighting in the landing grounds and in the fields.
00:17:54.000 We shall never surrender.
00:17:56.000 And I think we are fighting for our future here with AI.
00:17:59.000 We have to get this right.
00:18:00.000 We have to win.
00:18:01.000 And so we're going to continue that fight.
00:18:03.000 We have to do it at the federal level.
00:18:05.000 We have to be involved in those policy discussions in Congress.
00:18:08.000 We have to continue to work with our state lawmakers and get governors and attorneys general to pass more laws in those states to defend the laws on the books and to basically tell the Department of Justice that if they sue the states, the states will fight them in court.
00:18:22.000 Look, I think President Trump wants to do the right thing here.
00:18:25.000 I think he's trying to get this right.
00:18:27.000 I just think that there have been some people in the White House like David Sachs and others who have been pushing this approach.
00:18:33.000 So I still think there's a lot of work to be done.
00:18:35.000 I don't think this is by any means over.
00:18:37.000 This is an executive order that has limitations.
00:18:40.000 The president cannot just overturn state laws.
00:18:43.000 There's talks about carve outs for kids' safety.
00:18:46.000 I think we need to sort of hold the administration to that, and we need to continue to work to protect our citizens from advanced AI.
00:18:53.000 So you're really saying now with the – because they can't just go and overrule state laws.
00:19:00.000 It's going to obviously go to court.
00:19:02.000 You're actually telling the DeSantis of the world, hang tough until you get what you need for your state into this federal – into some sort of federal regulatory apparatus and or, if that doesn't work, just continue to fight on?
00:19:17.000 Absolutely.
00:19:18.000 I think governors like DeSantis in Florida, Governor Sanders in Arkansas, Governor Cox in Utah and many others who have spoken out need to continue to keep up the fight, and they need to say, look, we want Congress to act.
00:19:30.000 We want you guys to pass meaningful legislation on this.
00:19:33.000 But until you do and unless you do, we're going to continue this process.
00:19:36.000 Because I think if this goes through the courts, I can't see the courts allowing much of the EO to continue or to be able to overturn these state laws.
00:19:45.000 That's just not a constitutional thing.
00:19:48.000 It's not something that a court is going to uphold, any federal court, especially the courts that we have today and the makeup of those courts.
00:19:56.000 So I think that states should continue to move forward.
00:19:58.000 In some ways, they should call the bluff if the DOJ does threaten to sue them because I think that that will fail.
00:20:05.000 That being said, I also think governors and attorneys general need to put pressure on their members of Congress and say, look, if we're going to have a federal standard, then let's get it done.
00:20:14.000 Let's get to work.
00:20:15.000 Let's work together to protect kids, to work on how we prevent these massive job losses that are coming.
00:20:20.000 Let's work on, you know, ideas for preventing loss of control.
00:20:24.000 If we see the rise of a super intelligence, I think we need Congress to act.
00:20:28.000 And so the pressure is really on them.
00:20:29.000 And I think the War Room Posse should be thinking about that today, thinking about getting prepared to move that conversation over to Congress.
00:20:36.000 Now, this is why we see Scalise put out 105 days of work this year.
00:20:42.000 They could be they could work around the clock just on this.
00:20:45.000 There's so many important things you've got to work on.
00:20:46.000 It's just stunning.
00:20:47.000 Where do people go?
00:20:48.000 I know you're trying to not just awaken people.
00:20:50.000 You're trying to do it by educating them.
00:20:51.000 Where do they go?
00:20:53.000 Where do you send people to learn more about this?
00:20:55.000 Not just your efforts, but overall, this whole issue and how they can get smarter.
00:20:59.000 Yeah, I mean, our website is secureainow.org.
00:21:03.000 We have a lot of resources there.
00:21:05.000 But if people sign up to get our newsletter, we're pretty good about sending out information from other organizations and different studies that are out there.
00:21:12.000 We do a lot in the media to highlight stories so that people can see what's happening.
00:21:16.000 But honestly, the other thing I would encourage people to do is just read everything you can read books on the topic, you know, read articles on the topic because it's moving very fast.
00:21:26.000 There's a lot of coverage of this and you really have to get as educated as possible as you can so that you can really make those arguments to your friends, family and neighbors.
00:21:35.000 Because, again, we have to get this right.
00:21:37.000 There's there's no there is no surrender.
00:21:40.000 There is no losing here, not only for the American people, but this is an issue that affects all of us around the world.
00:21:46.000 So the United States Congress and the president and the states have a big job to do.
00:21:51.000 Well, Brendan, thank you very much.
00:21:53.000 We'll send everybody over there right now.
00:21:54.000 Thank you, sir.
00:21:55.000 If Eric Prince, before we get back to geopolitics, artificial intelligence is totally revamping to a degree that's almost hard to keep up with the modern battlefield, is it not?
00:22:08.000 It really is, Steve, because you now have a lot of drones and a lot of guidance systems.
00:22:16.000 Everything is driven by a unblinking instant brain with perfect recall.
00:22:23.000 And you can now have multiple independent targeted drones that can prioritize targets and reprioritize if a few of them are knocked down in the process of attack.
00:22:37.000 It's it's extraordinary.
00:22:38.000 And it's so cheapened the delivery of precision strike that it's put everything at risk.
00:22:44.000 So the delusions of the modern battlefield and the delusions of lessons learned from the GWAT have to be really unlearned quickly or we will pay a horrific price in blood the next time the conventional military needs to go out against any kind of peer level competitor.
00:23:02.000 The global war on terror.
00:23:04.000 I'd captain for now, I want to get you on final on later, maybe over the weekend or next week about the Navy and Taiwan and fighting major naval battles, this issue about drones.
00:23:14.000 But just in Ukraine, you know, President Trump has given Zelensky, hey, look, you got to I'm gonna give you a play me or trade me on Christmas.
00:23:22.000 Right. You got to come to some conclusion.
00:23:24.000 But drones there have actually changed the battlefield, although the Russians are still doing the Russians classic their classic way. 0.97
00:23:32.000 They run their military. What's your what's your advice of President Trump about what he ought to do here?
00:23:40.000 Look, there's not any huge asymmetric.
00:23:44.000 If you think about the World War one, how bogged down it got into trench warfare, that's effective where you are now, although adding precision strike into the mix, holding anything within 30 kilometers of the front line at severe immediate risk.
00:23:58.000 The United States entry in the war is what finally pushed put enough energy into the battle space to finish World War one.
00:24:05.000 There is no injection of new tech or new capability coming to do that in this war.
00:24:13.000 And so a imperfect settlement is better than whatever people think this is now.
00:24:19.000 It's a slow rototilling, grinding end.
00:24:22.000 It is a pointless slaughter of Ukrainians and Russians to really not move battle lines at all very effectively in either direction.
00:24:31.000 There is 0% chance that the Ukrainians are going to take back the eastern provinces or the Crimea. 0.63
00:24:38.000 And so all they're doing now is ruining themselves demographically.
00:24:41.000 So Trump is right to call the Europeans out on their delusional nonsense because they're not going to suddenly win and they certainly don't have the means to pump even enough money in to keep the Ukrainians afloat. 0.81
00:24:56.000 But the biggest problem is Ukrainians just don't have enough manpower. 1.00
00:24:59.000 So, again, maximizing pressure.
00:25:02.000 I'm not saying Trump has to capitulate to the Russians.
00:25:04.000 Of course not.
00:25:05.000 But, again, an imperfect settlement is better than whatever people think this this pointless slaughter is now.
00:25:12.000 You talk about imperfect.
00:25:14.000 President Trump is, you know, settled or at least slowed down a conflict so far.
00:25:19.000 I want to pick a specific one, this one in sub-Saharan Africa.
00:25:24.000 Talk to me about that.
00:25:25.000 President Trump just had him in signing something the other day.
00:25:27.000 But the complexity of this and the ancient vendettas to go back to this, they're kind of they're trying to start it again.
00:25:34.000 And you've got you've got global actors that are edging this on.
00:25:39.000 Are they not?
00:25:40.000 Yeah, what's what we're talking about is the Eastern Democratic Republic of Congo, which is one of the largest.
00:25:48.000 One of the largest concentrations of mineral value in the Earth anywhere.
00:25:53.000 And Rwanda has full on invaded. 0.92
00:25:56.000 Rwanda has a surrogate called M23, which they have armed and trained with Chinese surface to air missiles, armed Turkish TB2 drones with Israeli laser guided missiles and guided mortars. 0.92
00:26:10.000 Polish jammers, some very high end tech that is provided and operated by Rwandan special forces inside the Congo.
00:26:17.000 President Trump's reached out to both sides, invited them to the White House, had both President Chizekete of Congo and Paul Kagame of Rwanda into the White House last week.
00:26:27.000 And while he's in the White House, Paul Kagame is launching another offensive. 0.80
00:26:32.000 In Eastern DRC to take more land.
00:26:35.000 What Kagame is trying to do is basically grow the size of Rwanda by about tenfold at the expense of his neighbor. 0.97
00:26:42.000 And that jackass had the gall to do that while standing in the White House next to Trump. 0.54
00:26:47.000 So I applaud Trump for reaching out and trying to make peace, but sometimes people just don't want to make peace. 0.98
00:26:54.000 And so then other options have to be on the table.
00:26:59.000 And I and I hope the United States does not allow the Chinese Communist Party is one of the big benefits of Rwanda hacking off this this additional area and making it a a lawless area. 0.99
00:27:12.000 There's already a lot of organized Chinese crime that steals a huge amount of the mineral wealth from the Western mining companies and from the artisanals in the Congo. 0.58
00:27:21.000 It's becoming a an extreme violent version of the worst parts of the American West all over the place in Africa with with billions of dollars of mineral value.
00:27:33.000 The headline number last year was thirty seven billion in copper and cobalt.
00:27:36.000 Why should we care?
00:27:38.000 Well, cobalt is what's needed for making phones, batteries for vehicles or electric vehicles for electrical storage and all the high end electronics that we require in our lives to make a modern society.
00:27:50.000 And Rwanda had the had the very bad taste of launching another, launching an offensive while standing in the White House with President Trump.
00:28:02.000 Eric, where do people get you on social media?
00:28:05.000 Where can they find your thinking, your writings, podcasts, all of it?
00:28:09.000 I post on X quite a bit at real Eric D. Prince.
00:28:15.000 And they can also check out what we're doing at unplugged.com slash war room.
00:28:20.000 We hang over a second.
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00:31:50.000 Um, last thing you're not, uh, some of the war imposities asked, you're not calling for intervention in this, uh, president Trump, what he's trying to do to bring peace is one thing you're not calling for an American intervention into sub-Saharan Africa.
00:32:04.000 Are you, sir?
00:32:05.000 No, but there's a lot of things the administration can do to help, um, the aggrieved countries from being overrun by, um, by a bad actor that, um, is also sponsored by the Chinese communist party.
00:32:21.000 And I, it's really not in America's interest to lose, uh, access to the trillions of dollars of mineral value coming out of the Congo.
00:32:28.000 So, um, again, not asking for military intervention, but there's a lot of things the intelligence community can do way short of going to war.
00:32:38.000 Eric Prince, thank you.
00:32:39.000 Look forward to having you back on.
00:32:40.000 We're talking naval warfare, hopefully early in the week.
00:32:43.000 Thank you, sir.
00:32:44.000 Thank you, Steve.
00:32:45.000 Merry Christmas.
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00:32:54.000 Ben Harnwell, President Trump's trying to end them all over the place.
00:32:57.000 The, uh, what do you call it?
00:33:00.000 Sticky wicket.
00:33:01.000 Ukraine.
00:33:02.000 Uh, now Europe is getting a taste of their own medicine.
00:33:05.000 They over promise.
00:33:06.000 They've been BSing people.
00:33:08.000 And now they look like they're in a jam as it's put up or shut up time.
00:33:12.000 Ben Harnwell.
00:33:14.000 Morning, Steve.
00:33:15.000 Well, there are a number of developments coming out of Ukraine.
00:33:18.000 Let's start off with this one that the Ukrainians have intimated, or it has been attributed to
00:33:23.000 the, to the Ukrainian team, negotiating team, that they are open to territorial concessions.
00:33:28.000 I don't want to go too heavy on that until I see something confirmed on that and precisely
00:33:33.000 what they're talking about.
00:33:34.000 Um, but the, this pivot on that, if it's true and it might be true, um, the pivot on that
00:33:40.000 will substantially be towards the security guarantees.
00:33:45.000 And allied to that issue is the president, President Trump's indication that, that, that,
00:33:51.000 that is going to be now dealt with by Congress, presumably by, specifically by the Senate.
00:33:57.000 Um, and they, look, I can flag up a number of points about this maneuver.
00:34:04.000 Um, I'm actually horrified by it because it would have been quite easy for President Trump
00:34:10.000 to, to, to kill the idea of the United States underwriting Ukraine's security to, to smother
00:34:17.000 that particular monster in the, in the, um, in the crib.
00:34:22.000 Uh, by passing this over to U S Congress, we have seen time and time again, over the
00:34:28.000 last four years, that that is the one way of ensuring the United States remains engaged,
00:34:36.000 you know, just casting our minds back to the waving of the, the Ukraine and this, um, Slavia
00:34:42.000 Ukraine, uh, little flags in Congress, that those guys are going to lap this up.
00:34:47.000 Um, that's a very dangerous maneuver.
00:34:49.000 I think on behalf of the president, it seems like, uh, he realizes this is a hot potato
00:34:57.000 and he's throwing it over, um, to the legislative branch.
00:35:02.000 Very, very, very, um, dangerous maneuver for, uh, if the president wants to keep the United
00:35:08.000 States out from being dragged further into this.
00:35:10.000 Uh, all right to all of this is the president's, um, or what has been attributed to the president.
00:35:18.000 They're very interesting, um, soundings coming out about this.
00:35:22.000 I don't know if they're true, but they're being repeated by, um, serious newspapers,
00:35:27.000 um, as if true, as if they have sources to confirm that.
00:35:33.000 Specifically one in, in the times, um, suggesting that the president is now, um, the two things
00:35:41.000 here.
00:35:42.000 The first is the move to this C five entity, which would be somewhat, I think quite a clever 0.99
00:35:48.000 maneuver, uh, on behalf of the white house, because it would potentially succeed in one
00:35:56.000 stroke in destroying bricks and replacing it with, with something which wouldn't be antagonistic
00:36:05.000 between China and the United States.
00:36:07.000 And the, it would basically be China, the United States, Russia, Japan, um, and India.
00:36:16.000 Uh, those would be the C five and it'd be a, uh, a counterpoint also to the G seven.
00:36:20.000 That's a pretty clever maneuver if it takes off.
00:36:24.000 The other thing, Steve, which I say, um, which I was referring to, which I haven't seen verified
00:36:28.000 by the white house.
00:36:29.000 And in fact, I've seen it denied by the white house is the idea that the United States security
00:36:36.000 strategy, which we've discussed quite a bit on the show, cause it's, it's a brilliant document
00:36:41.000 that in itself is only the public manifestation of a document, which goes actually well beyond
00:36:47.000 that. Um, and even tries to suggest, um, that it's the U S administration's view to encourage
00:36:56.000 four key EU member states to leave the European union. And those, those countries are Austria,
00:37:03.000 Hungary, Italy. Um, and I, and I forget which, which the, the, the fourth one is that, um, that
00:37:11.000 um, that would be very interesting if it's a political maneuver, if it's serious, because
00:37:16.000 it will smoke out the countries like Italy to say really, where is it? Where does it believe
00:37:22.000 where does Georgia Maloney believe the future of Italy lies? 1.00
00:37:25.000 I think, I think he's doing both. I think these are trial balloons. He's, he's going
00:37:29.000 up to, uh, to try both. Uh, you're going to be back with us at six. I just want to say,
00:37:34.000 I think the guarantees, whether it's guarantee a sovereignty guarantees, president Trump and
00:37:39.000 the team, I think are doing something very smart. They're saying, look, we're just not
00:37:43.000 going to agree to that. We're going to put that back to the American people. The way to
00:37:46.000 put it back to the American people is take it to Congress. Now, if it's treated like, if this
00:37:50.000 is like a treaty, which I think it should be, you need two thirds. That's going to be
00:37:54.000 tough, but it'll, it'll get, it'll, it'll smoke out everybody to get on the table. This
00:37:59.000 is just not going to fall on president Trump's shoulders. So as you know, we're adamantly
00:38:04.000 opposed to any guarantees, security or sovereignty, particularly you got guys like your Mac running
00:38:09.000 the deal in these week that you've seen the Europeans are all going to run for the hill. 0.77
00:38:13.000 But if you have to do it, go back and put it to Congress, go back and put it to the, basically
00:38:18.000 to the nation again, to do it. Ben, we got to bounce. Uh, you're going to be back with us
00:38:23.000 six until that time. Where do they go on your, uh, getter? Because, uh, you're managing
00:38:28.000 some of these evening shows has been quite extraordinary and the feedback's been tremendous,
00:38:32.000 sir. Uh, yep. Social media platform of choice, get a tap in my surname, Hanwell.
00:38:38.000 And I've got some of the commentary that I referred to on the show now up at the top
00:38:42.000 of my feed awaiting your perusal. Thanks Steve. God bless.
00:38:46.000 President Trump, as you know, Ben has given, uh, the Ukrainians, uh, to Christmas, uh, play 0.83
00:38:51.000 me or trade me. So this is coming down to the, uh, to the short strokes right now. And it
00:38:56.000 looks like everybody's adamant to get some sort of agreement here. So thank you very much.
00:39:01.000 President Trump trying to check boxes, trying to check boxes all trying to stop the kinetic
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00:45:48.620 exceeds the sum of human intelligence, it is difficult to imagine that any humans will actually
00:45:53.040 be in charge. Well, thank you very much. We have a big signing right now, and it's the AI,
00:45:59.400 artificial intelligence. I always thought it should be SI, supreme intelligence.
00:46:04.220 But do you use ChatGPT when raising your baby? I do. I mean, I feel kind of bad about it because
00:46:11.460 we have this, like, genius level at everything, intelligence, sitting there, like, waiting to
00:46:16.340 unravel the mysteries of humanity. And I'm like, why does my kid stop dropping his pizza on the
00:46:20.820 floor and laughing? Yeah. I cannot imagine having gone through that, like, figuring out how to
00:46:25.660 raise a newborn without ChatGPT. Clearly, people did it for a long time. No problem. Yes.
00:46:29.600 But... It basically states that the policy of your administration is to create that federal
00:46:33.540 framework. We're going to work with Congress, like the chairman here of the Commerce Committee,
00:46:37.240 Senator Cruz, and other members of Congress to define that framework. In the meantime,
00:46:42.780 the CEO gives your administration tools to push back on the most onerous and excessive state
00:46:47.280 regulations. We are now joined by Disney CEO Bob Iger, along with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.
00:46:53.180 Well, first of all, what we're doing here is we're licensing about 200 characters for users
00:46:59.560 of Sora to create their own, basically, videos using Sora and those characters. So it gives
00:47:06.860 us an opportunity, really, to play a part in what is really a breathtaking, breathtaking growth
00:47:13.620 in, essentially, AI. We hear so much from users about how much they love Disney's characters.
00:47:19.820 Disney, I think, is the greatest storytelling company in the world, bar none, and people
00:47:24.660 really want to connect with Disney characters and express creativity in new ways.
00:47:27.960 Today, America's economy is more than 50% larger than Europe's, and the two drivers of that
00:47:33.340 are tech and the shale revolution. It transformed this country, and AI is the same thing. It's
00:47:39.560 a race. And if China wins the race, whoever wins the values of that country will affect 0.90
00:47:47.720 all of AI. We don't want China's values of surveillance and centralized control by the
00:47:53.440 communist government governing AI. We want American values of free speech, of individual
00:47:58.380 liberty, of respecting the individual.
00:48:00.680 We may be able to give people, if somebody's committed crime, a more humane form of containment
00:48:06.420 of future crime, which is if you say, like, you now get a free optimist, and it's just
00:48:14.240 going to follow you around and stop you from doing crime.
00:48:16.560 So this executive order, I believe, is tremendously important. Thank you for your leadership.
00:48:22.220 Joe, you're going to be in Nashville this week. You're also going to be back with us,
00:48:25.140 if I can grab you for the 5 o'clock show. Just briefly, your thoughts on the—we'll have
00:48:30.540 more about artificial intelligence in the 5, but your thoughts on the EO and the fight going
00:48:36.120 forward, sir.
00:48:38.380 Well, Steve, I want the posse to know that the fight obviously is not over. In fact,
00:48:43.000 the fight will not be over any time in our lifetimes or probably the next generation's
00:48:48.000 lifetimes. Even if the EO had not been signed, the fight would go on. But given the situation
00:48:54.980 we're in now, the front extends to federal regulation, that seems to be the focus, SACS
00:49:02.300 made some concessions. One of the important ones is that this is not a total moratorium on
00:49:09.340 state laws, so anyone driving for state laws should continue. The big thing I want the war 1.00
00:49:17.520 room posse to think about, though, what we saw there in those clips is the big picture.
00:49:22.440 What is the objective of the companies that people like David Sachs and Ted Cruz are running
00:49:28.420 cover for? What is this supreme intelligence that the president is talking about? These
00:49:34.820 companies are driving towards artificial general intelligence. And whether you believe that's
00:49:40.940 possible or not, what it shows is they are willing to create something that would replace
00:49:46.860 every worker on earth. Whatever percentage of that objective they achieve, it will be a
00:49:54.600 net negative for any working American or any worker across the world. So what are we fighting
00:50:01.540 against? We're fighting against people who not only don't care about your well-being other
00:50:09.040 than to use you for training data or to use you as a pet after their singularity. These are people
00:50:16.760 who actively want to replace you. They want to mine your data, replicate you in silico and replace
00:50:25.520 you. These are the people we're fighting against and we'll fight against them the rest of our lives.
00:50:30.040 By the way, you will be back with us at five. Until then, where do people go for your content?
00:50:35.760 At J-O-E-B-O-T-X-Y-Z and JoeBot.X-Y-Z. Thank you very much, Steve.
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