Bannon's War Room - Episode 5002： Press Conference On The Brown Assassination

00:00:00.000 It shows him at various points in the hours before the shooting, and one of them could be showing him walking in the approximate area of the building where the shooting occurred, possibly right after the shooting.

00:00:11.520 I'll take you through what we've been able to go through.

00:00:13.860 There are a few videos that show him walking on Cook Street, on George Street, and on Benevolent Streets in the 2 o'clock p.m. hour.

00:00:22.740 At least one of these videos appears to be from a ring cam on a door of a home.

00:00:28.220 At least one of the videos shows him jogging along a sidewalk at one point.

00:00:34.440 I believe that video shows him jogging along a fence along a sidewalk.

00:00:39.660 The timeline indicates there's a 30-minute gap where he does not have a satchel with him between 2.20 p.m. and 2.50 p.m. on that day.

00:00:52.800 And at about 2.51 p.m., there are images of him carrying a satchel.

00:00:57.220 The Providence Police also, a couple of hours ago, released a still image of this person carrying a satchel.

00:01:05.360 And you get kind of a good look at the kind of build he has and him carrying a satchel with kind of a two-tone jacket in those still photos.

00:01:13.160 Also, Boris, there's one video with a time stamp showing that the shooting occurs at 4.03 p.m. on Saturday.

00:01:20.300 The next video shows the person of interest walking right in front of a police car that's pulling up with its lights on.

00:01:27.300 That would possibly, and again, we're not sure about this, possibly indicate that that might be right after the shooting, that the police car could be responding to the shooting.

00:01:34.820 But basically, Boris, this is a series of time-stamped videos.

00:01:39.360 Most of them, I believe, are in the 2 o'clock p.m. Eastern Time Hour, and that would be a couple of hours before the shooting occurs at just after 4 o'clock p.m. on Saturday.

00:01:50.420 And again, I'll go through what we've been able to see in these time-stamped videos.

00:01:54.560 The person of interest is shown walking along Cook Street, along George Street, and along Benevolent Streets in Providence at various points in the 2 o'clock p.m. hour.

00:02:04.660 At certain points, I believe there is one video that is similar to a video that was released yesterday showing him walking across a street.

00:02:12.160 Most of these videos show him walking fairly casually.

00:02:14.940 There is one video that shows him turning abruptly.

00:02:19.180 Actually, there are two videos that I saw.

00:02:20.640 Excuse me.

00:02:21.540 One showing him turning abruptly and then jogging the other way, and another video just showing him jogging.

00:02:29.700 Again, we seem to have a 30-minute gap between pieces of video between 2.20 p.m. and 2.51 p.m., where he does not appear to be carrying a satchel.

00:02:41.860 But then there is one image of him from 2.51 p.m. on Saturday, where he is carrying a satchel.

00:02:47.960 And again, there is one video with a time stamp showing that the shooting occurs at 4.03 p.m.

00:02:54.620 The next video shows the person of interest walking right in front of a police car that's pulling up with its lights on,

00:03:01.780 seemingly indicating that he is walking in front of that police car just after the shooting.

00:03:06.400 But it's not quite clear.

00:03:07.740 We're going to get some of these specifics and some of these answers from officials who will hold a news conference at about 5 o'clock p.m. Eastern time today, Boris.

00:03:16.340 And we can kind of give you a little bit more detail of this.

00:03:19.600 But between these time stamp videos, Boris, and the still picture that was put out a couple of hours ago by the Providence police,

00:03:26.520 you are getting many, many more looks at this person of interest now and the way he walks and the way he's dressed and his build

00:03:33.960 and the fact that he, in certain images that they have released, is carrying a black satchel strapped over his shoulder.

00:03:42.260 And at other times during these videos and still images, he is not carrying that satchel.

00:03:47.940 So, you know, again, why that is, we're going to hopefully get some of those answers a little bit later today.

00:03:53.880 But the bottom line here is, Boris, that now the public has many, many more images of this person to go by

00:04:01.360 as far as the way he looks, what he was wearing, his build, the way he walks.

00:04:06.440 And, of course, police and the FBI and others are hoping this will really speed up the timeline here for his capture.

00:04:13.460 This was not something where he was walking around on campus firing indiscriminately,

00:04:17.680 which, unfortunately, we have seen many times in these mass shootings.

00:04:20.920 This was targeted.

00:04:22.920 This was clearly targeted, and we can see it in the choice of the targets.

00:04:27.700 It was not indiscriminate, spares the TA, and then targets Ella Cook, this young girl.

00:04:32.440 So as an investigation, that's something you have to look at.

00:04:34.960 And, Steve, quite frankly, you've got to go Frank Rizzo.

00:04:37.980 You've got to go full Frank Rizzo when it comes to this.

00:04:40.460 When you have a situation like this, you've got to go to every single one of these subversive groups

00:04:45.900 that are on campus, and you should be rounding them up and pulling them all in for questioning

00:04:50.300 and saying, dude, you know this guy?

00:04:52.120 Do you know anyone who looks like that guy?

00:04:54.160 You look kind of like this guy.

00:04:55.900 Where were you on that day?

00:04:57.580 Where were you on Saturday 4 p.m.?

00:04:59.080 Why weren't you around on Saturday 4 p.m.?

00:05:01.120 What's your alibi?

00:05:01.980 And just go in every single...

00:05:04.460 Okay, our cold opens cut.

00:05:06.640 Jack Posobiec's with us.

00:05:07.900 We're going to go live to the press conference in Providence, Rhode Island.

00:05:11.100 Let's take it here.

00:05:12.000 Jack will jump in.

00:05:12.700 That video was released just a little while ago.

00:05:15.440 If you can see Camille or Julie, and they can send that to you while we're reporting.

00:05:28.240 Additionally, Camille and Julie are your contact to be on the press distribution list

00:05:32.880 to be advised of future announcements.

00:05:36.960 At this time, I'll introduce Providence Police Chief, Colonel Oscar Press.

00:05:39.960 Thank you, Mayor.

00:05:42.620 As the mayor stated, we're about to show you a video

00:05:45.300 and we can have the L.P. officer play.

00:05:50.160 Thank you.

00:06:20.160 Hi.

00:06:24.340 All right.

00:06:29.500 Thank you.

00:06:38.940 Thank you.

00:06:41.120 Thank you.

00:07:11.120 Thank you.

00:07:41.120 Thank you.

00:07:43.120 As I may have stated, if you don't have these videos, please let us know.

00:07:51.120 And the reason we have shown these videos, there's a purpose, right?

00:07:54.120 So as you can see, there's enhanced photos, there's enhanced video footage, and so we're

00:07:59.120 asking the public to ensure that they can see here that you want to focus on the body

00:08:04.120 movements, the way the person moves their arms, the body posture, the way they carry

00:08:11.120 their weight.

00:08:12.120 I think those are important movement patterns that may help you identify this individual,

00:08:17.120 which is extremely important.

00:08:18.120 Another thing that we're going to ask the public is if you have any type of camera system, including

00:08:24.120 Teslas, in your property.

00:08:27.120 And this video that you just saw behind me, it all comes from the residential block of

00:08:33.120 Waterman Avenue, Power, Ives, and Hope Street.

00:08:37.120 And it's those residential areas that we're asking the public to look if you have any camera

00:08:42.120 systems or any Teslas, like I mentioned, that you look at that footage and that you can reach

00:08:47.120 out to us and please provide us anything that you have.

00:08:50.120 And we're asking you to go back at least a week to do that.

00:08:53.120 And the reason for that is because on Saturday night, the day off, we actually learned that this

00:08:57.120 individual was in that neighborhood at around 10.30 in the morning.

00:09:01.120 We also know in this profession that many criminals will case out an area weeks and days prior.

00:09:07.120 And so it's important for us to ensure that we can have you look at that and help us.

00:09:11.120 And the reason for that is because our officers, our agents, are looking at terabytes of data.

00:09:16.120 And we're looking for a moment that is shorter than somebody taking a breath.

00:09:21.120 It's incredible hard work to do that.

00:09:23.120 And so we're asking the public to assist us with that.

00:09:25.120 The other thing is the tip center.

00:09:27.120 We have been receiving hundreds of tips.

00:09:32.120 However, we're about close to 200 actionable tips that we're still conducting investigations on,

00:09:37.120 which is incredible and it's important.

00:09:40.120 Again, keep in mind that this video footage is extremely important to us.

00:09:44.120 And one more thing here.

00:09:46.120 As a reminder, please remember that the number that we need to call is 401-272-3-121,

00:09:52.120 as well as the link that the FBI provided, which is FBI.gov Brown University Shootings.

00:09:59.120 Thank you very much.

00:10:01.120 Thank you, Colonel.

00:10:03.120 Now we'll hear from FBI Special Agent in Charge, Ted Dox.

00:10:12.120 Thank you, Mayor.

00:10:13.120 And good evening.

00:10:14.120 My name is Ted Dox.

00:10:15.120 I'm the Special Agent in Charge of FBI Boston.

00:10:17.120 On the heels of this tragedy, the strength and resilience of the people of Providence is a powerful reminder of the bonds that unite us.

00:10:24.120 The men and women of the FBI, along with the law enforcement team standing before you, carry the victims with us as we work around the clock to bring the individual responsible for their injuries and deaths to justice.

00:10:37.120 Today, the FBI is working with Brown University to do everything we can to provide services to those impacted by this horrific shooting.

00:10:45.120 The FBI has almost 30 victim specialists, special agents, and analysts from all over the country who are here in Providence to support our survivors, the victims, and their loved ones.

00:10:57.120 The FBI Victim Services Response Team is one of the many specialized FBI assets that have been deployed here to assist.

00:11:06.120 The toll of this type of tragedy takes on victims and their families is immeasurable.

00:11:11.120 And we ask everyone to respect their privacy at this difficult time.

00:11:15.120 Thank you.

00:11:18.120 Thank you, Special Agent.

00:11:19.120 Next, Attorney General Peter Neroni.

00:11:22.120 Thank you, Mayor.

00:11:23.120 There's a lot to add.

00:11:24.120 Other than that, from my perspective, I think the investigation in a case like this, which is a challenging one, is going really well.

00:11:33.120 On the third floor of this building, there are dozens of agents, detectives, led by Providence Police, prosecutors from my office,

00:11:41.120 are working to put together, and what you're seeing is just a portion of what they're working on right now.

00:11:48.120 So they are literally, because I have seen at least part of it, the shift changes late at night.

00:11:54.120 I think Rhode Islanders should take confidence in their work.

00:11:57.120 They are veterans of what they do.

00:11:59.120 They're smart.

00:12:00.120 They're professional.

00:12:01.120 And they're getting the resources from the mayor and the governor that they need, the state police as well, to get this job done.

00:12:09.120 I'm confident they're going to be able to do that.

00:12:11.120 So we just need a little bit of patience, as hard as it is to say that in this really horrible context.

00:12:16.120 Thank you.

00:12:17.120 Thank you, General.

00:12:20.120 Governor Dan McKee for an update now.

00:12:22.120 Thanks, Mayor.

00:12:24.120 And right off the top, we're just making sure that we're, the state is supporting Providence and Brown University,

00:12:35.120 and then working with the FBI as well as our state police and the Attorney General to continue to provide information to the people in the state of Rhode Island.

00:12:46.120 My information is that recently, this month today, we met with all the university presidents in the state of Rhode Island.

00:12:53.120 And we know that we want to start a working group that will talk about enhancing the safety issues.

00:12:59.120 And you'll see shortly that we'll be doing the same thing in terms of mental health issues.

00:13:04.120 And I think that's important as I'm out and about.

00:13:07.120 We're hearing a great deal of anxiety coming from families and students and the general public.

00:13:13.120 And that's one of the reasons why our state police is supported with the Providence schools with presence as school begins and school ends in support of the mayor and his efforts to support the schools.

00:13:28.120 Thank you, Governor.

00:13:29.120 We're also joined tonight by Brown University President Christina Paxson.

00:13:35.120 Thank you, Mayor.

00:13:36.120 I want to begin by thanking the many law enforcement agencies who continue to work around the clock on this case.

00:13:43.120 It's very impressive.

00:13:44.120 I also want to thank the mayor and the governor for their continued support.

00:13:48.120 The primary point that I wanted to address before we get to questions is that Brown is deeply committed to the safety and security and well-being of our community.

00:13:59.120 And I've been deeply saddened to see people questioning that.

00:14:03.120 We understand that as time goes on, there is maybe a natural instinct to assign responsibility for a tragic event like this.

00:14:13.120 Anxiety and fear is very natural.

00:14:16.120 But the shooter is responsible.

00:14:19.120 Horrific gun violence took the lives of these students and hospitalized others.

00:14:24.120 And it's deeply sad and tragic that schools across the country are targets of violence.

00:14:30.120 Brown is no exception. 0.97

00:14:32.120 We are cooperating fully with law enforcement.

00:14:35.120 And again, we thank the multiple agencies that have been working so hard day to night with increased controls to keep our campus safe and to investigate this horrific shooting.

00:14:47.120 Thank you.

00:14:48.120 Thank you, President Paxson.

00:14:53.120 I'll give a couple of updates on behalf of the city and then we'll take your questions.

00:14:58.120 First, as has been discussed many times, we continue to have enhanced police presence throughout the city of Providence to help bolster the confidence and provide a sense of additional security to our residents.

00:15:12.120 Today, we were aided by neighboring municipalities in Central Falls and North Providence with supplemental officers.

00:15:19.120 We're grateful to our neighbors for sticking up and standing up with Providence.

00:15:24.120 The state police continues to be an incredible partner and I thank the governor and Colonel Weaver for their partnership.

00:15:31.120 Providence public schools remain in session.

00:15:36.120 Friday is the last day of school before winter break.

00:15:38.120 We've spent some time at our schools again today.

00:15:41.120 As has been the case in the past, the schools in the area of Brown are having regular police presence and because of the assistance of the Rhode Island State Police, we've been able to provide additional police presence and coverage to other schools in Providence.

00:15:58.120 We thank them for that.

00:15:59.120 When I was at one of our elementary schools this morning, the faculty were having a brief meeting before kids started to arrive and in discussion with some of the teachers, I asked how they were doing.

00:16:13.120 One of the teachers said what I think a lot of us are feeling.

00:16:16.120 She said, you know, it's hard, but I'm putting on a good face for the kids.

00:16:21.120 We need to be here for them.

00:16:22.120 And I think that's how a lot of our residents feel right now, which is that we are taking very tentative steps forward, but we're doing it for one another.

00:16:31.120 And so I do want to thank our educators at this time.

00:16:35.120 They're being asked to go to school right now.

00:16:37.120 Our principals are asked to be going to school right now for the sake of the families and the kids.

00:16:42.120 And at that same school, there was a second grader literally skipping to the front door because he's a second grader and he doesn't know everything that's going on in this scary world right now.

00:16:55.120 And so the strength of the adults has allowed that little kid to skip to school this morning.

00:17:01.120 And so I want to thank all of my fellow residents of Providence for putting on a strong face for the sake of others at this time.

00:17:10.120 There were questions yesterday.

00:17:13.120 And so I'll also just give a brief update on the health status of the survivors.

00:17:20.120 If folks will recall, there have been eight hospitalized.

00:17:23.120 One has since been discharged.

00:17:25.120 There have been nine, eight hospitalized.

00:17:28.120 One has since been discharged.

00:17:29.120 The seven that remain in the hospital, one is in critical status.

00:17:34.120 One, five in critical but stable status, although healthcare providers report that they are improving.

00:17:40.120 And one in stable status.

00:17:42.120 Those are the seven.

00:17:43.120 One in critical, five in critical but stable.

00:17:45.120 One in stable status.

00:17:47.120 And one discharged since the last time we made comments about their safety and recovery from the podium.

00:17:55.120 So, now we'll open it up to questions.

00:17:58.120 .

00:18:02.120 So the question was, if I could just repeat what I stated earlier in English as far as the what occurred here, the reasons for the video, and why I was requesting for the public.

00:18:22.120 So, we are looking at the public.

00:18:23.120 So, we are looking at the public, that the video, which we did, we were talking about how the person walks, how he moves his arms, how he moves his arms, how he moves his arms, how he moves his arms, how he moves his arms.

00:18:34.120 And that is very important.

00:18:35.120 That is very important to help us to identify with this person.

00:18:38.120 Very important.

00:18:39.120 The second video we have been taken to the public in the residential area, which includes the home, the Warren Avenue, the Warren Avenue, the Power Street and the Ice Street.

00:18:51.120 So, it is very important to help us to identify with the public if they have cameras, as well as Tesla's vehicle, that has that kind of data, for us to send them to us.

00:19:01.120 So, it is very important for us to be able to identify with them and that they will go a week after the incident.

00:19:05.120 Because there is an information that we have, that this person, at 10 in the morning of Saturday, will be able to see.

00:19:11.120 Chief Perez, you said that you believe this person was in the neighborhood at 10.30, clarify how you believe that was at 10.30 the morning of the shooting.

00:19:19.120 And what do you believe he was doing there at that time?

00:19:21.120 Correct.

00:19:22.120 And we have video footage of that and we believe that he was actually chasing out this area to commit the crime.

00:19:30.120 That is a pattern that criminals do and that is what he was doing.

00:19:34.120 Chief, yesterday, the FBI described the person that we have been seeing in these images as a suspect.

00:19:42.120 Today, the one who seems to be a person of interest.

00:19:44.120 Can you clarify, do you believe that this person that we are looking at is your shooter, is your shooting suspect?

00:19:49.120 Definitely, he is still a person of interest and we are still investigating that to be able to get that answer.

00:19:53.120 But we strongly believe that he is a suspect in the incident and a person of interest.

00:19:59.120 An MIT professor died earlier this morning from gunshot wounds.

00:20:04.120 Does that incident have any potential connection to this investigation?

00:20:07.120 Not at all, no.

00:20:09.120 Colonel, can I just ask you, yesterday we were wondering about this person's age.

00:20:13.120 Now that we've seen more video, again, a couple of days ago, I know you were saying 20s,

00:20:18.120 so some talk about 30s, but just to help people at home who have seen this video,

00:20:22.120 do profilers or anyone in your department have any better understanding or closer idea on his age?

00:20:28.120 The second part of that question is, can you not confirm that he has no connection as a past student or as a past staff member at the university?

00:20:36.120 So the first question, I'll tell you that the first, when it happened on Saturday night,

00:20:39.120 obviously it was chaos and there was a witness that stated that he might have been in his 30s.

00:20:43.120 At this point, we're still just looking at the picture.

00:20:45.120 We can't identify ages and even to that point.

00:20:48.120 And as far as whether he's a problem student or anything, we don't have any other answers.

00:20:51.120 Colonel, in one of the new videos, prior to the shooting, this person of interest has seen running.

00:20:57.120 At this point, do you have any inkling why he's running or where he's running?

00:21:01.120 We're still investigating that.

00:21:03.120 But what we do know is that he was a case in the area.

00:21:06.120 And again, that's what criminals do.

00:21:08.120 I'm proud to come in and cry.

00:21:09.120 Chris.

00:21:10.120 It appears that the FBI and PD, of course, when I'm looking online, looks like they're releasing separate videos at separate times.

00:21:17.120 Are you guys still coordinating or how are we working?

00:21:21.120 You've got to understand that there's a lot of people upstairs in the general state area.

00:21:26.120 And we're trying to ensure that we do this for our job and collect the evidence that we need.

00:21:31.120 We want to make sure that everybody has the—especially you guys in the public.

00:21:34.120 One thing I want to make sure is that the community is safe, well-informed, and stay confident in the work that we're doing.

00:21:39.120 So yes, there was a video that was released, but we also were working on another video.

00:21:42.120 And the purpose of this press conference is to ensure that the public can see those videos showing movements,

00:21:50.120 like I stated earlier, the way a person walks, the way they carry the weight.

00:21:53.120 That's the importance.

00:21:54.120 And so our video—sorry, the second video that we showed was the one that we needed to show the public.

00:21:59.120 Just in terms of hammers inside and outside the engineering building, are those working at all?

00:22:04.120 And if so, why not really some of those videos?

00:22:07.120 So the video that we showed you came from inside the building, and that's all we have at this moment.

00:22:12.120 Inside the engineering building, though?

00:22:14.120 I'm sorry.

00:22:15.120 It's from the outside.

00:22:16.120 I'm sorry.

00:22:17.120 So do you have video from inside the engineering building?

00:22:20.120 Yes.

00:22:21.120 Both inside and outside.

00:22:22.120 I'm sorry.

00:22:23.120 Just outside.

00:22:24.120 That's all we have.

00:22:25.120 Not inside, no.

00:22:26.120 I'm sorry.

00:22:27.120 Just outside.

00:22:28.120 Are they going to be released any time soon, or the one from inside the building?

00:22:30.120 That was released already.

00:22:31.120 That was the outside of the building.

00:22:33.120 We were released now.

00:22:34.120 Let me just jump here and clarify, okay?

00:22:37.120 So there is, you know, for those of you who have been with us before, I understand that not a lot of you have been,

00:22:42.120 there is video inside the building.

00:22:44.120 There are cameras inside the building.

00:22:46.120 What we have released to you are videos of this person of interest.

00:22:51.120 So I want to be clear, because later on there may be other videos that get released in the course of a prosecution,

00:22:56.120 likely will be at some point.

00:22:58.120 They show things like chaos after the shooting.

00:23:01.120 What they don't show is the, is this person of interest.

00:23:06.120 And so that's why we haven't released that, those videos, okay?

00:23:10.120 What you do have are videos from a camera outside of the Brown Building and other cameras from around the neighborhood that the good men and women in law enforcement located and put together in this montage.

00:23:22.120 And to your question, Chris, there are two versions of that video, but the bottom line is, as I understand it, they depict the same thing, and number one.

00:23:32.120 And number two, the agencies are working very, very well together, as I think the special agent in charge would agree.

00:23:38.120 Attorney General, you've got to follow up and then we're going here.

00:23:42.120 Just to clarify, there's no clear video of the suspect inside the neighborhood.

00:23:46.120 That's correct.

00:23:48.120 Now, can I just ask as well, further to the surveillance footage that you have received, I've been here since Saturday speaking to people who are living in the residential buildings around,

00:23:58.120 and in the businesses and many of the store clerks there have told me it wasn't until this morning that the police have actually come to ask them if they had anything that they could offer,

00:24:09.120 any CCTV or any evidence that they could provide.

00:24:12.120 Why has it taken three days for these people to have the police come to them to ask them for assistance?

00:24:17.120 As I stated earlier, there's a residential block that includes a lot of homes, a lot of different camera footage,

00:24:24.120 and it takes a lot of work in the sense that there's a lot of terabytes that we're looking at in order to be able to analyze it, pull what we need,

00:24:32.120 and sometimes it's just a moment that we need, and it's almost assured that somebody's taking a breath.

00:24:37.120 So it takes a lot of work, and so that leads us to the next location, to move strategically.

00:24:42.120 We have to pull the video down, go ahead, analyze it, investigate it, and then move forward.

00:24:46.120 I just want to jump in there, too, because I want to clarify, in a sense, what the Chief is saying.

00:24:53.120 He said you start in the grid, in the first instance that's closest to Brown.

00:24:58.120 It takes a lot of work to canvass that area, and then you build out as you learn more about the path to travel.

00:25:04.120 So it's entirely possible that tomorrow we'll be canvassing places that we haven't canvassed yet, because we're working out with the resources that we have.

00:25:13.120 Attorney General, go ahead.

00:25:15.120 We have a question to follow up, right?

00:25:17.120 Yes.

00:25:18.120 I have a question, Attorney General, to follow up with my colleague.

00:25:21.120 This is the question I asked on Saturday night, which is, so there's cameras in the hallway, but they don't show the suspect or Brown is not releasing them, or you're not releasing them to us?

00:25:32.120 How does a multi-million dollar school not have a bunch of cameras in the hallway?

00:25:35.120 So let me try to explain that.

00:25:38.120 So, as President Patson knows, there was a major addition put on that building within the last five years or so.

00:25:47.120 That is a modern building attached to a much older one in the back.

00:25:51.120 So, it doesn't come as a surprise to me, at least, that there are cameras in the newer part of the building.

00:25:57.120 And there is video footage, okay?

00:25:59.120 So there's the back part of the building, old part, and front part, new part.

00:26:03.120 The shooting occurs in the old part towards the back, up towards Oak Street.

00:26:07.120 In that older part of the building, there are fewer, if any, cameras in that location, I imagine because it's an older building.

00:26:15.120 So, as students are fleeing the area of the shooting into the new part of the building, there are cameras in that brand new building that show that chaos.

00:26:25.120 But the only video of the presumed, anticipated, suspected, however you want to define a person of interest, you have it.

00:26:39.120 We would release it if we thought it would be helpful in identifying this subject because we are relying on the press and public to help get us there.

00:26:48.120 There would be no reason for us to hold it back.

00:26:50.120 We're looking for the best image of it.

00:26:52.120 Dan, you have a follow-up?

00:26:53.120 I'm pretty general.

00:26:54.120 Thank you for explaining that because it really clarifies it.

00:26:56.120 Although, I'm sure some people watching would think a multi-million dollar school is a huge endowment could afford new cameras in an old building.

00:27:02.120 That's my statement.

00:27:03.120 Here's my question.

00:27:04.120 If he's casing that area, Colonel, like you said, he had an intended target, which speaks to the moment.

00:27:11.120 Did he have a target to kill one of the two people that were killed?

00:27:16.120 I'm still investigating it, and it's something that would probably get the answers as well.

00:27:20.120 Patrick?

00:27:21.120 Patrick?

00:27:22.120 Yeah.

00:27:23.120 For President Paxson, have you two related, have you reviewed any communications to Brown before the shooting that revealed any kind of threat, any kind to anyone at Brown?

00:27:35.120 And then, since the shooting, I believe some web pages for students or faculty have been taken down.

00:27:41.120 Is that a response to any external threats to anyone in the community?

00:27:46.120 We have been working very closely with law enforcement to provide them with all of the internal to Brown information that they need to do this investigation.

00:27:57.120 It's their investigation.

00:27:58.120 They're the professionals.

00:27:59.120 So, we're providing information.

00:28:01.120 We're not in the job of reviewing it for them.

00:28:04.120 I know nothing about web pages being taken down as part of this.

00:28:08.120 It's the person I've heard of.

00:28:11.120 In the back, yep.

00:28:13.120 You want people to feel safe.

00:28:15.120 Can you say this person of interest is no longer in Providence, no longer in Rhode Island?

00:28:19.120 Are they out of the state?

00:28:20.120 Do you have any sense at all?

00:28:23.120 I can't speak to the investigation, and if there's a follow-up for either the general or the colonel, I'm sure they'd be happy to answer it.

00:28:32.120 But I'll restate what I've said several times now, which remains true as another day passes.

00:28:39.120 Since the initial call came in at 4.05 p.m. on Saturday, we have not received, and this is now updated with another 24 hours have passed, a single credible specific threat to the area, to the city related to this event, and as far as I know, to the state.

00:29:01.120 And I know that this is a question that many people are struggling with, and it's difficult conversations that I've had with many, many of my constituents, including a very anxious parent this morning.

00:29:16.120 The best information we have is that there is no credible, actionable, specific threat that has occurred since Saturday.

00:29:28.120 And in order to enhance and ensure the safety of our community, we have stepped up law enforcement efforts throughout the city in a precautionary measure, an abundance of caution, to try to give comfort and confidence to people who have to take the steps forward in their daily lives, who have to take their kids to school, who have to get to work.

00:29:50.120 And that is, that is the honest answer, the best answer we have at this time, as the days continue to pass.

00:29:58.120 Mr. Mayor, with that, do you continue to tell us where you believe he may be? Is he in the state? Is he in the area?

00:30:04.120 So, that question was asked as well. So, Colonel, I'll let you answer that.

00:30:09.120 Yeah, we'll continue to investigate that. That's not, listen, we're looking for statements as the mayor stated. We haven't received, received any credible influence powers.

00:30:16.120 Any, any, any other calls of that nature, but I'll tell you that we have enhanced our presence in a part of the city and we're using every resource we have.

00:30:26.120 And every call that comes in, we're responding to it immediately.

00:30:29.120 Are you working with any neighboring states?

00:30:32.120 It's Pat, so we're working our way across it with him here. Pat.

00:30:34.120 Uh, Pat, for the call of the radio.

00:30:36.120 In a case involving a hit-and-rod accident in the vicinity of Brown University that was litigated by the Office of Attorney General Lerona in 2023,

00:30:43.120 Brown University police detective John Reffko stated that the university maintained several thousand video surveillance cameras and license plate figures on Brown University campus and surrounding campus.

00:30:54.120 Now, this is an addition, obviously, to the property police data center.

00:30:57.120 Uh, Attorney General Lerona, your department litigates that case, essentially due to your department thorough understanding of the landscape.

00:31:03.120 Why isn't there more video permit data, and were those cameras all operational?

00:31:08.120 Yeah, I can't speak to what was operational or wasn't, but I will say this, that, um, and I've answered this question a few times today, and I'll try to, uh, do my best to answer it again.

00:31:17.120 So, somebody reported, maybe in the Globe, that there are 800 cameras or so on the campus.

00:31:22.120 It might be in the Globe.

00:31:23.120 Twelve hundred.

00:31:24.120 Twelve hundred.

00:31:25.120 But this building is on the very edge of the campus.

00:31:28.120 If you know, I know that building well.

00:31:30.120 I have two students, two sons who went, spent a good chunk of their lives there.

00:31:34.120 It's at the very edge of the campus.

00:31:36.120 It's not in the Heartland on the campus.

00:31:38.120 It's not the green.

00:31:39.120 And there are several greens.

00:31:40.120 It's not any of the three greens, if I remember them.

00:31:42.120 So, it's right on the edge of the campus.

00:31:44.120 And, where the shooting took place, is very, is at the very edge of that building on the edge of the campus.

00:31:50.120 And so, as those of you who know Providence know, you are very quickly into a residential neighborhood, which is why the video footage you're seeing of this defendant's, uh, excuse me, wrong word, person of interest movements, excuse me, are pre- and post-shooting are in that neighborhood.

00:32:09.120 So, the building is on the edge of the Brown campus, where the shooting took place, is at the edge of that building, and then you're very quickly into a residential neighborhood.

00:32:19.120 There is, there, there is no footage, I can, I'll try to say it again, there is no footage that depicts this individual that would be useful in identifying him, uh, that we have not released to you.

00:32:30.120 And I think you can tell, from frankly, the not very helpful quality of the initial footage, that our standard is pretty low.

00:32:38.120 If it, we, if we thought it was at all helpful, we would, uh, have and will release it.

00:32:43.120 John?

00:32:44.120 A follow-up question, we'll put a follow-up.

00:32:45.120 Carl, does Brown, does Brown University, or the federal government, employ stingray, or any other mess, or balance equipment, in and around the Brown University campus?

00:32:54.120 And again, remember that the Brown University detective said that these applied, and said that these cameras extend in the neighborhood.

00:33:00.120 So, the other question is, does mass surveillance by Brown University end at campus borders, or is there anything in the Clare Street community in the downtown area, or anywhere else?

00:33:13.120 You asked me this question last night, Pat, uh, and, uh, I don't have any knowledge of those systems.

00:33:19.120 Respect the mayor, I'm not asking you, I'm asking you.

00:33:21.120 General, or the FBI.

00:33:22.120 Okay.

00:33:23.120 Yeah.

00:33:24.120 There, there, uh, there is no mass surveillance.

00:33:26.120 Well, first of all, I'm not sure what mass surveillance means, Pat, but, um, but by any standard, I, I wouldn't describe it as mass surveillance by Brown University.

00:33:35.120 There are cameras that they have in place in an effort to protect their students.

00:33:38.120 And, unfortunately here, given location, given age of building, um, there, we just don't have additional video footage.

00:33:47.120 I wish we, trust me, I wish we did, um, but we don't, and so we're doing everything we can to find additional footage from the neighborhoods, uh, re, um, re, uh, uh, reinvent, uh, his path of travel, and continue to canvas for either people who may have seen him, encountered him, or who have video evidence that can supplement what you already have.

00:34:08.120 John.

00:34:09.120 I have a question for, uh, E.J.

00:34:14.120 E.J., so this happened Saturday night, and then last night, you have an MIT professor.

00:34:19.120 I know the question was asked, but this has to work.

00:34:22.120 What we see on this video is seemingly someone very cautious, almost like a professional, kind of like the D.C.

00:34:28.120 pipe bomber that is circling several times.

00:34:30.120 Right.

00:34:31.120 What information do you have?

00:34:33.120 That MIT, Jewish professor, was basically executed.

00:34:37.120 Do you have any intelligence on how that person was operating there?

00:34:41.120 You know, it's, it's interesting, uh, Colonel, Colonel Noble reached out to me very early, um, their lead on that particular incident, uh, he made sure that if there's any intelligence, any information in which is connected to what we have here, that they would share that.

00:34:57.120 At this time, there seems to be no connection as it relates to, uh, that particular incident.

00:35:02.120 What, as a, uh, FBI agent follow-up, what, what do you see in that individual who's walking?

00:35:08.120 For example, you know, he's walking with his arms behind his back.

00:35:11.120 And I've seen people talk about, that's, that's not like a young kid on a campus.

00:35:16.120 That scene where he's, you know, walking, that's something more either European or Middle Eastern.

00:35:21.120 What, what do you see so far in this video that we see in this subject?

00:35:25.120 Or the person I would say?

00:35:27.120 You know, I think the, the Colonel articulated in a sense what, what they see, I'd say from an

00:35:32.120 FBI perspective, um, we have individuals that can hypothesize on that, our behavioral analysis unit, and those type of individuals.

00:35:40.120 I will say I, I would be, I think, getting a little ahead of things if I give you kind of an inference of what I see in that particular behavior.

00:35:47.120 It can mean a lot of things to be truly transparent with you.

00:35:50.120 And, uh, to get into the mind of an individual that would commit such a heinous act, um, that's a place in which I don't want to go right now.

00:35:59.120 I'm not sure what was going on in that particular group at that time.

00:36:02.120 But you wouldn't agree on that.

00:36:03.120 This individual seems very tough.

00:36:04.120 Brian, in the back.

00:36:05.120 Hi.

00:36:06.120 President Paxson, uh, clearly as you stated, the shooter is to blame.

00:36:09.120 But you're hearing a lot of questions about the lack of cameras.

00:36:12.120 You mentioned, you've heard some of the criticism.

00:36:15.120 What is your response to parents, as well, who said they pay a lot of money for their kids to go to Brown?

00:36:20.120 They're questioning the cameras, why the sirens didn't go off.

00:36:23.120 Do you believe that Brown had the precautions and safety measures in place before the shooting that were appropriate and necessary?

00:36:31.120 I do.

00:36:32.120 Uh, and in fact, I'm glad you mentioned the sirens, uh, because I think there's been some misinformation about that.

00:36:38.120 We have two security systems that we can activate in time of emergency.

00:36:43.120 One is a system that sends out text messages, phone calls, emails, and it was activated within minutes of the incident.

00:36:53.120 Those messages went out to 20,000 individuals.

00:36:56.120 So, all alerts.

00:36:58.120 We also have a system of sirens.

00:37:00.120 There are three sirens placed across campus.

00:37:03.120 Those get activated when there is a broad-scale emergency, and we want people to rush into buildings.

00:37:10.120 In the case of an active shooter, activating that system could have caused people to rush into Barrison College.

00:37:20.120 So, that's not a system that we would ever use in the case of an active shooter.

00:37:25.120 Okay.

00:37:26.120 Just to follow up, um, this is, it does say on the website when it was launched that it is for an active shooter.

00:37:33.120 So, is that interesting?

00:37:34.120 It, it, it depends on the circumstances and where the active shooter would be, but you don't want to ever get people rushing into buildings that might be the site of an active shooter.

00:37:44.120 Can I say-

00:37:45.120 That's my understanding.

00:37:46.120 Go ahead.

00:37:47.120 Do you have any evidence that suggests that the victim, Ella Koch, may have been targeted?

00:37:52.120 I don't know.

00:37:53.120 Going out at this point.

00:37:55.120 Yeah, agreed.

00:37:56.120 I have a question over here.

00:37:57.120 Can you make sure you have over 200 camps?

00:37:59.120 Yes, we're working our way across, I'm sorry.

00:38:02.120 Go ahead, Tom.

00:38:03.120 Uh, Attorney General Morano, what are the, uh, characteristics of the guy in the first video that makes you believe that he's also the same guy in the video that was released yesterday and then the follow-up for President Paxson?

00:38:15.120 Yeah, look, I think that, um, that is an analysis that has been done, uh, by the agents and the detectives.

00:38:24.120 Um, a lot of factors are going into that.

00:38:27.120 Um, a lot of it is, is being able to, and as I just saw upstairs, a really terrific job of tracing movements.

00:38:34.120 And when you put movements and times together, um, it's easy to, to, to, easier perhaps is the best word, uh, to identify them as the same person.

00:38:45.120 Now, look, look, there are no absolutes in any investigation and I'm not about to make absolute statements in this one either.

00:38:52.120 Um, but that's, that's the general reasoning for why we concluded that.

00:38:57.120 Okay, just a, a follow-up, uh, to President Paxson.

00:39:00.120 Right now, uh, school break is pretty much underway for a lot of university students.

00:39:05.120 Um, have you met with, uh, the police department and board trustees on how you're gonna secure, uh, the university going into the second semester?

00:39:14.120 Are you making any changes, uh, to the way, uh, you guys operate?

00:39:18.120 Well, right now we have been, uh, the campus is emptying out first as you, as you said, but we still have staff and faculty and graduate students and international students who will remain on campus during the winter break.

00:39:30.120 So it's still open.

00:39:32.120 Uh, and right now our focus is on getting as many sort of boots on the ground, people in cars.

00:39:39.120 We have been really fortunate that the city and other municipalities have people who are helping us.

00:39:46.120 Uh, people from the state.

00:39:48.120 We also have security that we brought in from outside.

00:39:51.120 Uh, I think over 60 people today were patrolling the campus.

00:39:55.120 I was on campus walking around and I couldn't turn around without seeing a security person.

00:39:59.120 So we will continue that for as long as we think it's necessary.

00:40:03.120 And right now the campus feels very secure.

00:40:06.120 Thank you.

00:40:07.120 Steve, I'm sorry I missed you.

00:40:08.120 No, it's okay.

00:40:09.120 Um, if I were, if someone were, province residents were to see someone who matched the description of the person of interest,

00:40:15.120 how would they be sure that the American building was a federal pricey?

00:40:20.120 Uh, the tip line that we've been providing, uh, throughout the last several days,

00:40:25.120 401-272-3121, uh, that call comes in here, uh, and, uh, and is answered, uh, in this building, uh, with province police professionals and our partners at the FBI.

00:40:42.120 Uh, that is the, that is who's manning the phones.

00:40:45.120 That is who's processing the tips.

00:40:46.120 Uh, and we are encouraging anybody who has relevant information to please use that tip line.

00:40:52.120 Uh, and, and they should know that that's who's on the other end of the phone.

00:40:55.120 Uh, and, uh, and, and again, if you have relevant information or information that you think might help us with this investigation, we encourage you.

00:41:03.120 Are there anything that can be differentiated between this person and an ICE agent who would be masked up walking through town and not be approached by the police in the same way this person was?

00:41:15.120 Uh, again, we've worked really hard to build the trust of our community here in Providence, and I'm telling you that that phone number, 401-272-3121, uh, rings in this building, uh, and is answered by province police and or FBI.

00:41:29.120 Uh, those are the agencies that are processing, running down, and investigating, uh, any relevant information.

00:41:35.120 And we urge folks, if you have relevant information, to please use that phone number.

00:41:39.120 Luke.

00:41:40.120 Um, for the Colonel, do you have any, uh, indication as to whether all the interviews of the students in the classroom are completed?

00:41:48.120 And is there any through line that you've gleaned from those interviews?

00:41:52.120 We're still conducting those interviews as we speak.

00:41:55.120 Go ahead, please.

00:41:56.120 You mentioned that you have no idea if the shooter is still in the area.

00:42:00.120 Have you been working with any law enforcement agencies in other states that are nearby?

00:42:04.120 Yes, we're working with every municipality, uh, here in the state of Rhode Island, and, uh, obviously, every Massachusetts, there's, obviously, we have conversations with them as well.

00:42:13.120 But, uh, the majority of the law enforcement that we're working with right now is our own, you know, nearby municipalities, the Rhode Island State Police, and every agency that you can think of, uh, federal agency in this building.

00:42:24.120 Are you working with agencies in Connecticut?

00:42:27.120 We have conversations with them, but no, they're not here, no.

00:42:32.120 Let's just jump in here.

00:42:34.120 What's really critical first is that we identify who the person is.

00:42:37.120 You know, once we identify who this person is, I believe we'll be able to locate them.

00:42:42.120 It's very hard to hide in this country.

00:42:44.120 But until you have a name, which is why we're working so hard to identify them, um, it doesn't, it's not particularly productive to reach out to law enforcement across the country as to who you're looking for, because we don't yet know who we're looking for.

00:42:58.120 So that's why we have to identify the person.

00:43:00.120 Once we've identified him, you know, we'll know more information about where he's from, and who his friends are, and where he might go.

00:43:06.120 So those are the things that we can do once we have an identification of this person.

00:43:12.120 And that's why the team now is laser focused on identifying who this person is in this video.

00:43:17.120 Amanda.

00:43:18.120 How many of the students who were inside that building, and also outside, have detectives been able to interview, and have they elaborated anything this man said?

00:43:37.120 Like when he yelled something in the classroom before opening fire, that he appeared to be wearing a bulletproof vest, and that's why he appeared to help you.

00:43:46.120 It's a good amount of, uh, interviews that we've conducted.

00:43:49.120 We have re-interviewed several people.

00:43:51.120 Um, and so I just want to tell you that's part of the investigation right now.

00:43:55.120 We'll continue, we'll continue to investigate, we'll continue to speak with them.

00:43:58.120 And, uh, like the general state of this, and we just try to build the case here and make sure that we can move forward and continue the progress as we do, as we're doing.

00:44:06.120 But the interviews are still being conducted.

00:44:09.120 But Chief, they haven't elaborated, they haven't elaborated exactly what this man did say and what he was yelling.

00:44:16.120 Yeah, I don't have that info now.

00:44:18.120 Straight back, sir.

00:44:20.120 Um, what do we know about the path of the shooter as they left Derrickson Holloway, and where do we lose sight of him?

00:44:27.120 So, his movements were all in that residential block that I mentioned, between Waterman Avenue, Power Street, I Street,

00:44:35.120 Hope Street, is all that block.

00:44:37.120 The whole residential block that I just mentioned is where the movements were.

00:44:41.120 And then, obviously, that's where we lose sight of him somewhere around Downing Street.

00:44:46.120 Is it back of the shooting sheet?

00:44:48.120 Or the back there?

00:44:49.120 Correct.

00:44:50.120 To that point, at any point, will there be kind of like a map put out as to which cameras you're seeing him on to kind of give an idea to the public of, maybe my camera's there, maybe my Tesla's there, like you said?

00:45:02.120 Correct.

00:45:03.120 Yeah, great point.

00:45:04.120 And then we talked about it before I came down here, to be able to reuse that map as well.

00:45:08.120 Alex.

00:45:09.120 For the colonel, do investigators know how many shots have been fired after you?

00:45:15.120 Tell us that.

00:45:16.120 It's in the forensics unit, and obviously with the API as well.

00:45:19.120 They're all there, and there were several rounds of the fire inside the building.

00:45:23.120 And just another follow, the image today of the person of interest.

00:45:30.120 They have a statue.

00:45:31.120 Is it known if there were additional weapons in there or magnanimous?

00:45:35.120 No, that's all we know.

00:45:36.120 It's just that one weapon.

00:45:38.120 I mentioned it.

00:45:39.120 Go ahead.

00:45:40.120 Yeah.

00:45:41.120 This might be a question either for the colonel here.

00:45:45.120 I wanted to follow up on the scrubbed internet pages that were mentioned.

00:45:50.120 There's a lot of misinformation out there.

00:45:52.120 There's been a lot of speculation about what those scrubbed pages might mean.

00:45:56.120 Can you help back check, give us some information today about what those scrubbed individuals,

00:46:01.120 about one very particular individual, does it have any connection to do with the shooting?

00:46:07.120 As I said before, this is, I have no knowledge of any scrubbed pages.

00:46:12.120 You know, you can follow up with our communications office if you want to get more information,

00:46:17.120 maybe tomorrow, but this is the first I've heard of it.

00:46:19.120 So I did, and then they directed me to Colonel Perez.

00:46:21.120 Do you know anything about...?

00:46:25.120 I don't know.

00:46:26.120 Just a round, just a round, yes.

00:46:28.120 I have a question for Colonel.

00:46:29.120 I have a question for Colonel.

00:46:30.120 What is what you see in the description, in the corporate language of that person,

00:46:35.120 that makes you think that it's a person of interest?

00:46:37.120 I've talked to people in the community that have some sort of disbelief,

00:46:42.120 because they've already released a person who was also of interest.

00:46:45.120 What does this person make you think that it could be?

00:46:49.120 Yes, the question is, what makes this person one of the suspects that we have that is a priority,

00:46:55.120 and since we have released somebody already in the past, what makes this person the subject?

00:47:01.120 So, the answer is, really, that we have many indications that this person is the one who committed this tragedy.

00:47:09.120 So, what we have shown in this video is because of that reason.

00:47:12.120 The investigation leads us to the progress of determining that this person is the person,

00:47:16.120 because of the things that we are going to be investigating.

00:47:19.120 So, the answer is pretty much that there's a lot of leads that we have here that identifies this individual

00:47:24.120 as the person who committed this tragedy.

00:47:26.120 We have enough to be able to move forward in progress,

00:47:29.120 and we're very confident that he's the individual who committed this tragedy.

00:47:32.120 Do I have one follow-up here?

00:47:33.120 Go ahead, please.

00:47:34.120 Why don't we call him a suspect, and what we told the community that's nervous?

00:47:46.120 So, the answer is, we're calling a person in the case, right?

00:47:51.120 Because we need to create a case to be able to take him to the justice and present the risk.

00:47:56.120 It's the same as the community that is really in a good job,

00:47:59.120 and this is a priority in this moment, a responsibility,

00:48:02.120 to put a complete case to be able to take him to the justice.

00:48:07.120 I don't know, it's just a dumb case.

00:48:08.120 You've been here, Mayor, with your permission.

00:48:09.120 I want to come back to your question about that name.

00:48:14.120 I know the name that you're asking about because a member of the media asked me about it.

00:48:18.120 I am familiar with it.

00:48:20.120 I wasn't familiar with it when the media member asked me about it.

00:48:23.120 I think it was either CBS or NBC.

00:48:28.120 I asked my team about it, and I think this is an area where caution is really necessary.

00:48:36.120 There are lots of reasons why a page might be taken down, particularly if there's chatter out there about, to your question, Amanda, about words that were spoken.

00:48:47.120 It's easy to jump from someone saying words that were spoken to what those words are to a particular name that reflects a motive targeting a particular person.

00:48:57.120 That's a really dangerous road to go down.

00:49:00.120 Really dangerous.

00:49:01.120 If that name meant anything to this investigation, we would be out looking for that person.

00:49:06.120 We would let you know we were looking for that person.

00:49:09.120 You know, again, I think it's just a really dangerous road to go down.

00:49:13.120 I know that in today's age there are lots of things that people read into things.

00:49:18.120 It's just a dangerous thing to do.

00:49:20.120 And I would leave it to us to identify persons of interest and let us run them down.

00:49:25.120 What the public can do for us today is help us figure out who this guy is.

00:49:30.120 And we hope to have more information out, and we'll help you do that, help you help us do that.

00:49:35.120 You have a follow-up here.

00:49:36.120 I do.

00:49:37.120 Just very, very quickly.

00:49:38.120 It was further to my colleague's question that you have answered most of it.

00:49:42.120 But just in regards to the rumors that are circulating as well about the motive here,

00:49:48.120 do you have any information regarding the rumors that a particular professor was being targeted?

00:49:56.120 There is no information that the investigative team has about motive.

00:50:00.120 Zero.

00:50:01.120 Zero.

00:50:02.120 There's nothing about, even if taking at face value what one or two witnesses may have said

00:50:08.120 about what something was said, okay?

00:50:11.120 And there are many witnesses that say nothing was said, there's nothing about what we know

00:50:16.120 was perhaps said that indicates any kind of motive that is related at all to ethnicity

00:50:25.120 or political outlook or culture.

00:50:29.120 There's nothing at all that we know right now about that.

00:50:33.120 And I think that is a dangerous road to go down, particularly in today's environment.

00:50:38.120 Patrick has a follow-up.

00:50:39.120 Does the fact that the satchel is in some videos and not in others and his disappearance

00:50:44.120 around Governor either indicate that there's a vehicle involved or one of the houses involved

00:50:49.120 and he picks up the satchel or gets off the satchel?

00:50:52.120 What does that tell us, the fact that he disappears if there's a vehicle?

00:50:55.120 It's on the actions of a criminal, pretty much.

00:50:57.120 I'll tell you that.

00:50:58.120 You're right.

00:50:59.120 And that's something that we're looking at.

00:51:00.120 As you can see in the video, the satchel's on.

00:51:02.120 Sometimes it's not on.

00:51:03.120 He has a heavy coat on.

00:51:04.120 He has something in front of his abdomen.

00:51:06.120 He could have hit this satchel.

00:51:08.120 There's something in an instance that we have.

00:51:10.120 We'll continue to investigate this conference.

00:51:12.120 But we'll continue to investigate this conference.

00:51:14.120 Chris has got a follow-up.

00:51:15.120 Chris has got a follow-up.

00:51:16.120 Chris has got a follow-up.

00:51:17.120 Chris has got a follow-up.

00:51:18.120 Chris has got a follow-up.

00:51:19.120 Are you assuming, like in Lewiston, Maine, after four days, the suspect is taking his own

00:51:25.120 life.

00:51:26.120 So if you use the microphone, are you assuming right now that you're showing these videos

00:51:30.120 that this is a suspect after 72 hours that's still alive?

00:51:33.120 Or do you have dogs and thermal imaging from helicopters over here that are looking for a person

00:51:38.120 that's taking their own life?

00:51:39.120 Yeah, we're using a lot of resources.

00:51:41.120 As soon as we get a lead, we continue to follow through with it.

00:51:43.120 An investigation I mentioned the other day, they start here and they lead in a different

00:51:47.120 direction.

00:51:48.120 So we're there.

00:51:49.120 Yes, you're right.

00:51:50.120 We use dogs.

00:51:51.120 Yes, if we have a lead on something, then we think that we need to go back and search

00:51:54.120 it again.

00:51:55.120 We need to re-interview.

00:51:56.120 We're doing all that.

00:51:57.120 Chris, you've got the last question.

00:51:58.120 Go.

00:51:59.120 This is for Colonel Andy Andy.

00:52:01.120 The mayor had noted the Boston Globe podcast that there were setbacks earlier in the investigation,

00:52:07.120 but you also say that initial detention with that first person of interest would you also

00:52:11.120 categorize that as a setback?

00:52:14.120 Well, you know, the mayor and I agree on nearly everything.

00:52:19.120 But we look at this case maybe from different backgrounds and experiences perhaps.

00:52:28.120 So the mayor has had many great experiences that I've never had, leading the city, for

00:52:32.120 example.

00:52:33.120 Well, I would not characterize it as a setback.

00:52:36.120 The way I would characterize it is it was a lead that had to be run the ground.

00:52:41.120 And the person, as that lead was run the ground, there was an initial period where that lead

00:52:46.120 looked very promising.

00:52:47.120 But there were still physical evidence that had to be analyzed.

00:52:51.120 And once it was analyzed, it was clear that that person was not a person involved here.

00:52:55.120 But that's not unusual in investigations like this.

00:52:58.120 And that's happening as we speak.

00:53:00.120 We are developing people of interest.

00:53:02.120 And, you know, some we quickly rule out, others we quickly rule in.

00:53:06.120 And when I say persons of interest, people that could be this guy based on other evidence.

00:53:11.120 So I would not view it as a setback.

00:53:13.120 I mean, I think, frankly, the police work there and the analytical work that had to be taken

00:53:17.120 out of state and brought back very quickly was very long gone.

00:53:20.120 It certainly wasn't a disappointment for those of us who hoped we could wrap this case quickly

00:53:24.120 for the benefit of the ground community and the people of Providence around, of course.

00:53:29.120 But I don't know that I would use a setback.

00:53:31.120 But I think, you know, maybe those words don't, maybe what I'm saying is not all that different

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00:53:38.120 But I look at it as good police work while other work was going on.

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00:58:43.120 My colleague Jack Prosobik, who had to leave to get down to D.C. for an event he's speaking at, is that this was kind of a train wreck.

00:58:52.120 You should know throughout the day, throughout the day, there's been an individual, I guess, Brown University, and the Brown University officials have been taking down his social media.

00:59:05.120 And, of course, his social media is a little controversial.

00:59:08.120 So the social media is a lot of a lot of discussion there.

00:59:11.120 Of course, the district attorney said right there, they don't know.

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00:59:16.120 They don't have any facts about it.

00:59:18.120 And, you know, people essentially shouldn't get worked up about it.

00:59:21.120 Then he said there's been no targeting.

00:59:23.120 In fact, the strongest point of the press conference was to chew out the reporters.

00:59:28.120 And I guess you, the public, for even bringing this up, was going to be targeted for cultural and political reasons, the whole Ella Cook situation.

00:59:37.120 I could also add that in this fiasco, they just, they admitted they only started asking the merchants for the footage today.

00:59:44.120 We're three days into this.

00:59:46.120 And so that press conference, I didn't think it gave a high level of confidence.

00:59:52.120 If Cash or Bongino are watching that and they're agent in charge, it seems to me it's time for somebody in authority to step in here because you're three days into this.

01:00:00.120 And it seems like they're asking this, Jack Posobiec tweeted, they're asking the, they're giving numbers out and say, hey, call if you see the video, you've got any other video.

01:00:08.120 And then they're chewing people out and jumping on people if they say anything about it.

01:00:11.120 Jack Posobiec joins us.

01:00:13.120 Let me take it all the way to the end of the show to the 438.

01:00:16.120 Jack Posobiec joins us.

01:00:17.120 Jack, what is your thoughts on this?

01:00:20.120 Oh, Steve, this, this was one of the craziest things that I think I've ever seen in terms of a press conference.

01:00:27.120 I've never seen it.

01:00:28.120 I've never seen it.

01:00:29.120 They asked the people for tips and then they start yelling at people for sending in tips.

01:00:34.120 They start yelling at the audience.

01:00:36.120 They start yelling at the public.

01:00:38.120 They start lecturing and said, don't send in tips like that.

01:00:41.120 We don't want those tips.

01:00:42.120 We want other tips.

01:00:43.120 We don't want this information.

01:00:45.120 They're not making any sense up there.

01:00:47.120 They're not providing any information to people.

01:00:49.120 They said, what did the guy yell?

01:00:51.120 They can't tell you what the guy yelled.

01:00:52.120 And then they sit there and the guy, the police chief, who's a migrant, by the way, drops English and he starts speaking Spanish in a press conference.

01:01:00.120 It's going out to the United States of America where last time I checked, we speak English.

01:01:05.120 Yeah, I'm jammed for time.

01:01:06.120 Two things.

01:01:07.120 All day you've been working on something about this individual.

01:01:10.120 They did say, hey, it's too early.

01:01:11.120 You can't do that.

01:01:12.120 We don't know about it, about this person's, the Brown University scrubbing the site.

01:01:17.120 Then the prosecutor jumped on everybody about saying, somebody just asked a question.

01:01:22.120 Hey, is there any, any evidence here or anything about being targeted?

01:01:25.120 Obviously the Ella Cook situation.

01:01:27.120 He went off on it.

01:01:29.120 Your, your thoughts of what's happened today and behind the scenes, Jack, what happened today?

01:01:33.120 Well, they're lying.

01:01:35.120 They're obviously lying up there because the prosecutor who's very, has no poker face whatsoever.

01:01:40.120 They all lied and said, they don't know what you're talking about, about anyone getting, getting name scrubbed.

01:01:45.120 There was an individual whose name has been scrubbed from that Brown University's website.

01:01:51.120 I had a source from Rhode Island that said the police were aware of this and were looking into him.

01:01:56.120 They hadn't confirmed anything, but they were looking into it.

01:01:59.120 And that that's who the prosecutor was referring to when he said, oh, you're don't ask questions about this because, you know, we know you're trying to make this a cultural thing.

01:02:09.120 We don't have proof of that.

01:02:10.120 He said, so wait a minute.

01:02:11.120 Do you not have information or do you?

01:02:13.120 Because if you're trying to say you're, he's calling people racist because one of the guys who people were looking at said, this guy might be some kind of Muslim might be some kind of migrant.

01:02:22.120 And they wanted to know because he matched profile that people were looking at.

01:02:28.120 And he was a member of one of these groups.

01:02:30.120 Now, we think we're, we're not calling for any, any kind of extra judicial responses here.

01:02:35.120 We're saying people are out there on the internet saying, look, here's a guy who's on campus that seemed to match this, that potentially could be a suspect.

01:02:43.120 Have you looked into it?

01:02:44.120 And they're yelling at them.

01:02:45.120 They're yelling.

01:02:46.120 But hang on.

01:02:47.120 But Jack, Jack, Jack, Jack, it's Jack, it's worse than that because they've Brown University authorities.

01:02:52.120 They're scrubbed this guy's site.

01:02:54.120 I mean, what got the Pepes and the Pepes were all over this today is that this stuff is being taken down during the day.

01:03:00.120 Was it not?

01:03:01.120 These are just factual events that happened this afternoon.

01:03:03.120 Correct.

01:03:04.120 This was a name that came up this morning that I saw across, you know, the internet.

01:03:10.120 And I said, well, it's interesting.

01:03:11.120 And I wonder what's going on there.

01:03:12.120 I wonder if that's, you know, any relation to this had no idea.

01:03:15.120 Right.

01:03:16.120 Said, I certainly hope that he's being looked into.

01:03:18.120 But then before the afternoon show came on today, they start erasing every single instance of this individual's name from Brown University's website.

01:03:27.120 Why?

01:03:29.120 And behind the scenes, you should know, Jack is getting a lot of people and authority back there saying, hey, there's something not right here.

01:03:36.120 So there's a lot more than they put in that press conference.

01:03:38.120 A lot more.

01:03:39.120 Anyway, John Solomon is going to take it from here.

01:03:41.120 We don't have a chance to get to Mike Lindell.

01:03:43.120 We'll get Mike Lindell up early in the morning tomorrow.

01:03:45.120 Mike Lindell's got a bunch of news about the president of the United States and Tina Peters.

01:03:49.120 We'll get to all that.

01:03:50.120 The John, John Solomon, just the news on Real America's Voice is going to follow.

01:03:56.120 We've got a special over on on the war room that I'm going to take on.

01:04:02.120 And we're going to talk about the three giants, Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson and James Dobson next in the war room.

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Bannon's War Room - December 16, 2025

Episode 5002： Press Conference On The Brown Assassination

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