The public now has many more images of a person of interest in connection with the shooting of Ella Baker and the recent capture of a still image of him. This person has been identified as a suspect in the case of the Baker shooting.
00:00:00.000It shows him at various points in the hours before the shooting, and one of them could be showing him walking in the approximate area of the building where the shooting occurred, possibly right after the shooting.
00:00:11.520I'll take you through what we've been able to go through.
00:00:13.860There are a few videos that show him walking on Cook Street, on George Street, and on Benevolent Streets in the 2 o'clock p.m. hour.
00:00:22.740At least one of these videos appears to be from a ring cam on a door of a home.
00:00:28.220At least one of the videos shows him jogging along a sidewalk at one point.
00:00:34.440I believe that video shows him jogging along a fence along a sidewalk.
00:00:39.660The timeline indicates there's a 30-minute gap where he does not have a satchel with him between 2.20 p.m. and 2.50 p.m. on that day.
00:00:52.800And at about 2.51 p.m., there are images of him carrying a satchel.
00:00:57.220The Providence Police also, a couple of hours ago, released a still image of this person carrying a satchel.
00:01:05.360And you get kind of a good look at the kind of build he has and him carrying a satchel with kind of a two-tone jacket in those still photos.
00:01:13.160Also, Boris, there's one video with a time stamp showing that the shooting occurs at 4.03 p.m. on Saturday.
00:01:20.300The next video shows the person of interest walking right in front of a police car that's pulling up with its lights on.
00:01:27.300That would possibly, and again, we're not sure about this, possibly indicate that that might be right after the shooting, that the police car could be responding to the shooting.
00:01:34.820But basically, Boris, this is a series of time-stamped videos.
00:01:39.360Most of them, I believe, are in the 2 o'clock p.m. Eastern Time Hour, and that would be a couple of hours before the shooting occurs at just after 4 o'clock p.m. on Saturday.
00:01:50.420And again, I'll go through what we've been able to see in these time-stamped videos.
00:01:54.560The person of interest is shown walking along Cook Street, along George Street, and along Benevolent Streets in Providence at various points in the 2 o'clock p.m. hour.
00:02:04.660At certain points, I believe there is one video that is similar to a video that was released yesterday showing him walking across a street.
00:02:12.160Most of these videos show him walking fairly casually.
00:02:14.940There is one video that shows him turning abruptly.
00:02:19.180Actually, there are two videos that I saw.
00:02:21.540One showing him turning abruptly and then jogging the other way, and another video just showing him jogging.
00:02:29.700Again, we seem to have a 30-minute gap between pieces of video between 2.20 p.m. and 2.51 p.m., where he does not appear to be carrying a satchel.
00:02:41.860But then there is one image of him from 2.51 p.m. on Saturday, where he is carrying a satchel.
00:02:47.960And again, there is one video with a time stamp showing that the shooting occurs at 4.03 p.m.
00:02:54.620The next video shows the person of interest walking right in front of a police car that's pulling up with its lights on,
00:03:01.780seemingly indicating that he is walking in front of that police car just after the shooting.
00:03:07.740We're going to get some of these specifics and some of these answers from officials who will hold a news conference at about 5 o'clock p.m. Eastern time today, Boris.
00:03:16.340And we can kind of give you a little bit more detail of this.
00:03:19.600But between these time stamp videos, Boris, and the still picture that was put out a couple of hours ago by the Providence police,
00:03:26.520you are getting many, many more looks at this person of interest now and the way he walks and the way he's dressed and his build
00:03:33.960and the fact that he, in certain images that they have released, is carrying a black satchel strapped over his shoulder.
00:03:42.260And at other times during these videos and still images, he is not carrying that satchel.
00:03:47.940So, you know, again, why that is, we're going to hopefully get some of those answers a little bit later today.
00:03:53.880But the bottom line here is, Boris, that now the public has many, many more images of this person to go by
00:04:01.360as far as the way he looks, what he was wearing, his build, the way he walks.
00:04:06.440And, of course, police and the FBI and others are hoping this will really speed up the timeline here for his capture.
00:04:13.460This was not something where he was walking around on campus firing indiscriminately,
00:04:17.680which, unfortunately, we have seen many times in these mass shootings.
00:10:15.120I'm the Special Agent in Charge of FBI Boston.
00:10:17.120On the heels of this tragedy, the strength and resilience of the people of Providence is a powerful reminder of the bonds that unite us.
00:10:24.120The men and women of the FBI, along with the law enforcement team standing before you, carry the victims with us as we work around the clock to bring the individual responsible for their injuries and deaths to justice.
00:10:37.120Today, the FBI is working with Brown University to do everything we can to provide services to those impacted by this horrific shooting.
00:10:45.120The FBI has almost 30 victim specialists, special agents, and analysts from all over the country who are here in Providence to support our survivors, the victims, and their loved ones.
00:10:57.120The FBI Victim Services Response Team is one of the many specialized FBI assets that have been deployed here to assist.
00:11:06.120The toll of this type of tragedy takes on victims and their families is immeasurable.
00:11:11.120And we ask everyone to respect their privacy at this difficult time.
00:12:24.120And right off the top, we're just making sure that we're, the state is supporting Providence and Brown University,
00:12:35.120and then working with the FBI as well as our state police and the Attorney General to continue to provide information to the people in the state of Rhode Island.
00:12:46.120My information is that recently, this month today, we met with all the university presidents in the state of Rhode Island.
00:12:53.120And we know that we want to start a working group that will talk about enhancing the safety issues.
00:12:59.120And you'll see shortly that we'll be doing the same thing in terms of mental health issues.
00:13:04.120And I think that's important as I'm out and about.
00:13:07.120We're hearing a great deal of anxiety coming from families and students and the general public.
00:13:13.120And that's one of the reasons why our state police is supported with the Providence schools with presence as school begins and school ends in support of the mayor and his efforts to support the schools.
00:13:44.120I also want to thank the mayor and the governor for their continued support.
00:13:48.120The primary point that I wanted to address before we get to questions is that Brown is deeply committed to the safety and security and well-being of our community.
00:13:59.120And I've been deeply saddened to see people questioning that.
00:14:03.120We understand that as time goes on, there is maybe a natural instinct to assign responsibility for a tragic event like this.
00:14:32.120We are cooperating fully with law enforcement.
00:14:35.120And again, we thank the multiple agencies that have been working so hard day to night with increased controls to keep our campus safe and to investigate this horrific shooting.
00:14:53.120I'll give a couple of updates on behalf of the city and then we'll take your questions.
00:14:58.120First, as has been discussed many times, we continue to have enhanced police presence throughout the city of Providence to help bolster the confidence and provide a sense of additional security to our residents.
00:15:12.120Today, we were aided by neighboring municipalities in Central Falls and North Providence with supplemental officers.
00:15:19.120We're grateful to our neighbors for sticking up and standing up with Providence.
00:15:24.120The state police continues to be an incredible partner and I thank the governor and Colonel Weaver for their partnership.
00:15:31.120Providence public schools remain in session.
00:15:36.120Friday is the last day of school before winter break.
00:15:38.120We've spent some time at our schools again today.
00:15:41.120As has been the case in the past, the schools in the area of Brown are having regular police presence and because of the assistance of the Rhode Island State Police, we've been able to provide additional police presence and coverage to other schools in Providence.
00:15:59.120When I was at one of our elementary schools this morning, the faculty were having a brief meeting before kids started to arrive and in discussion with some of the teachers, I asked how they were doing.
00:16:13.120One of the teachers said what I think a lot of us are feeling.
00:16:16.120She said, you know, it's hard, but I'm putting on a good face for the kids.
00:16:22.120And I think that's how a lot of our residents feel right now, which is that we are taking very tentative steps forward, but we're doing it for one another.
00:16:31.120And so I do want to thank our educators at this time.
00:16:35.120They're being asked to go to school right now.
00:16:37.120Our principals are asked to be going to school right now for the sake of the families and the kids.
00:16:42.120And at that same school, there was a second grader literally skipping to the front door because he's a second grader and he doesn't know everything that's going on in this scary world right now.
00:16:55.120And so the strength of the adults has allowed that little kid to skip to school this morning.
00:17:01.120And so I want to thank all of my fellow residents of Providence for putting on a strong face for the sake of others at this time.
00:18:02.120So the question was, if I could just repeat what I stated earlier in English as far as the what occurred here, the reasons for the video, and why I was requesting for the public.
00:18:23.120So, we are looking at the public, that the video, which we did, we were talking about how the person walks, how he moves his arms, how he moves his arms, how he moves his arms, how he moves his arms, how he moves his arms.
00:18:39.120The second video we have been taken to the public in the residential area, which includes the home, the Warren Avenue, the Warren Avenue, the Power Street and the Ice Street.
00:18:51.120So, it is very important to help us to identify with the public if they have cameras, as well as Tesla's vehicle, that has that kind of data, for us to send them to us.
00:19:01.120So, it is very important for us to be able to identify with them and that they will go a week after the incident.
00:19:05.120Because there is an information that we have, that this person, at 10 in the morning of Saturday, will be able to see.
00:19:11.120Chief Perez, you said that you believe this person was in the neighborhood at 10.30, clarify how you believe that was at 10.30 the morning of the shooting.
00:19:19.120And what do you believe he was doing there at that time?
00:20:09.120Colonel, can I just ask you, yesterday we were wondering about this person's age.
00:20:13.120Now that we've seen more video, again, a couple of days ago, I know you were saying 20s,
00:20:18.120so some talk about 30s, but just to help people at home who have seen this video,
00:20:22.120do profilers or anyone in your department have any better understanding or closer idea on his age?
00:20:28.120The second part of that question is, can you not confirm that he has no connection as a past student or as a past staff member at the university?
00:20:36.120So the first question, I'll tell you that the first, when it happened on Saturday night,
00:20:39.120obviously it was chaos and there was a witness that stated that he might have been in his 30s.
00:20:43.120At this point, we're still just looking at the picture.
00:20:45.120We can't identify ages and even to that point.
00:20:48.120And as far as whether he's a problem student or anything, we don't have any other answers.
00:20:51.120Colonel, in one of the new videos, prior to the shooting, this person of interest has seen running.
00:20:57.120At this point, do you have any inkling why he's running or where he's running?
00:22:58.120They show things like chaos after the shooting.
00:23:01.120What they don't show is the, is this person of interest.
00:23:06.120And so that's why we haven't released that, those videos, okay?
00:23:10.120What you do have are videos from a camera outside of the Brown Building and other cameras from around the neighborhood that the good men and women in law enforcement located and put together in this montage.
00:23:22.120And to your question, Chris, there are two versions of that video, but the bottom line is, as I understand it, they depict the same thing, and number one.
00:23:32.120And number two, the agencies are working very, very well together, as I think the special agent in charge would agree.
00:23:38.120Attorney General, you've got to follow up and then we're going here.
00:23:42.120Just to clarify, there's no clear video of the suspect inside the neighborhood.
00:23:48.120Now, can I just ask as well, further to the surveillance footage that you have received, I've been here since Saturday speaking to people who are living in the residential buildings around,
00:23:58.120and in the businesses and many of the store clerks there have told me it wasn't until this morning that the police have actually come to ask them if they had anything that they could offer,
00:24:09.120any CCTV or any evidence that they could provide.
00:24:12.120Why has it taken three days for these people to have the police come to them to ask them for assistance?
00:24:17.120As I stated earlier, there's a residential block that includes a lot of homes, a lot of different camera footage,
00:24:24.120and it takes a lot of work in the sense that there's a lot of terabytes that we're looking at in order to be able to analyze it, pull what we need,
00:24:32.120and sometimes it's just a moment that we need, and it's almost assured that somebody's taking a breath.
00:24:37.120So it takes a lot of work, and so that leads us to the next location, to move strategically.
00:24:42.120We have to pull the video down, go ahead, analyze it, investigate it, and then move forward.
00:24:46.120I just want to jump in there, too, because I want to clarify, in a sense, what the Chief is saying.
00:24:53.120He said you start in the grid, in the first instance that's closest to Brown.
00:24:58.120It takes a lot of work to canvass that area, and then you build out as you learn more about the path to travel.
00:25:04.120So it's entirely possible that tomorrow we'll be canvassing places that we haven't canvassed yet, because we're working out with the resources that we have.
00:25:18.120I have a question, Attorney General, to follow up with my colleague.
00:25:21.120This is the question I asked on Saturday night, which is, so there's cameras in the hallway, but they don't show the suspect or Brown is not releasing them, or you're not releasing them to us?
00:25:32.120How does a multi-million dollar school not have a bunch of cameras in the hallway?
00:25:59.120So there's the back part of the building, old part, and front part, new part.
00:26:03.120The shooting occurs in the old part towards the back, up towards Oak Street.
00:26:07.120In that older part of the building, there are fewer, if any, cameras in that location, I imagine because it's an older building.
00:26:15.120So, as students are fleeing the area of the shooting into the new part of the building, there are cameras in that brand new building that show that chaos.
00:26:25.120But the only video of the presumed, anticipated, suspected, however you want to define a person of interest, you have it.
00:26:39.120We would release it if we thought it would be helpful in identifying this subject because we are relying on the press and public to help get us there.
00:26:48.120There would be no reason for us to hold it back.
00:26:50.120We're looking for the best image of it.
00:26:54.120Thank you for explaining that because it really clarifies it.
00:26:56.120Although, I'm sure some people watching would think a multi-million dollar school is a huge endowment could afford new cameras in an old building.
00:27:23.120For President Paxson, have you two related, have you reviewed any communications to Brown before the shooting that revealed any kind of threat, any kind to anyone at Brown?
00:27:35.120And then, since the shooting, I believe some web pages for students or faculty have been taken down.
00:27:41.120Is that a response to any external threats to anyone in the community?
00:27:46.120We have been working very closely with law enforcement to provide them with all of the internal to Brown information that they need to do this investigation.
00:28:23.120I can't speak to the investigation, and if there's a follow-up for either the general or the colonel, I'm sure they'd be happy to answer it.
00:28:32.120But I'll restate what I've said several times now, which remains true as another day passes.
00:28:39.120Since the initial call came in at 4.05 p.m. on Saturday, we have not received, and this is now updated with another 24 hours have passed, a single credible specific threat to the area, to the city related to this event, and as far as I know, to the state.
00:29:01.120And I know that this is a question that many people are struggling with, and it's difficult conversations that I've had with many, many of my constituents, including a very anxious parent this morning.
00:29:16.120The best information we have is that there is no credible, actionable, specific threat that has occurred since Saturday.
00:29:28.120And in order to enhance and ensure the safety of our community, we have stepped up law enforcement efforts throughout the city in a precautionary measure, an abundance of caution, to try to give comfort and confidence to people who have to take the steps forward in their daily lives, who have to take their kids to school, who have to get to work.
00:29:50.120And that is, that is the honest answer, the best answer we have at this time, as the days continue to pass.
00:29:58.120Mr. Mayor, with that, do you continue to tell us where you believe he may be? Is he in the state? Is he in the area?
00:30:04.120So, that question was asked as well. So, Colonel, I'll let you answer that.
00:30:09.120Yeah, we'll continue to investigate that. That's not, listen, we're looking for statements as the mayor stated. We haven't received, received any credible influence powers.
00:30:16.120Any, any, any other calls of that nature, but I'll tell you that we have enhanced our presence in a part of the city and we're using every resource we have.
00:30:26.120And every call that comes in, we're responding to it immediately.
00:30:29.120Are you working with any neighboring states?
00:30:32.120It's Pat, so we're working our way across it with him here. Pat.
00:30:36.120In a case involving a hit-and-rod accident in the vicinity of Brown University that was litigated by the Office of Attorney General Lerona in 2023,
00:30:43.120Brown University police detective John Reffko stated that the university maintained several thousand video surveillance cameras and license plate figures on Brown University campus and surrounding campus.
00:30:54.120Now, this is an addition, obviously, to the property police data center.
00:30:57.120Uh, Attorney General Lerona, your department litigates that case, essentially due to your department thorough understanding of the landscape.
00:31:03.120Why isn't there more video permit data, and were those cameras all operational?
00:31:08.120Yeah, I can't speak to what was operational or wasn't, but I will say this, that, um, and I've answered this question a few times today, and I'll try to, uh, do my best to answer it again.
00:31:17.120So, somebody reported, maybe in the Globe, that there are 800 cameras or so on the campus.
00:31:40.120It's not any of the three greens, if I remember them.
00:31:42.120So, it's right on the edge of the campus.
00:31:44.120And, where the shooting took place, is very, is at the very edge of that building on the edge of the campus.
00:31:50.120And so, as those of you who know Providence know, you are very quickly into a residential neighborhood, which is why the video footage you're seeing of this defendant's, uh, excuse me, wrong word, person of interest movements, excuse me, are pre- and post-shooting are in that neighborhood.
00:32:09.120So, the building is on the edge of the Brown campus, where the shooting took place, is at the edge of that building, and then you're very quickly into a residential neighborhood.
00:32:19.120There is, there, there is no footage, I can, I'll try to say it again, there is no footage that depicts this individual that would be useful in identifying him, uh, that we have not released to you.
00:32:30.120And I think you can tell, from frankly, the not very helpful quality of the initial footage, that our standard is pretty low.
00:32:38.120If it, we, if we thought it was at all helpful, we would, uh, have and will release it.
00:32:44.120A follow-up question, we'll put a follow-up.
00:32:45.120Carl, does Brown, does Brown University, or the federal government, employ stingray, or any other mess, or balance equipment, in and around the Brown University campus?
00:32:54.120And again, remember that the Brown University detective said that these applied, and said that these cameras extend in the neighborhood.
00:33:00.120So, the other question is, does mass surveillance by Brown University end at campus borders, or is there anything in the Clare Street community in the downtown area, or anywhere else?
00:33:13.120You asked me this question last night, Pat, uh, and, uh, I don't have any knowledge of those systems.
00:33:19.120Respect the mayor, I'm not asking you, I'm asking you.
00:33:24.120There, there, uh, there is no mass surveillance.
00:33:26.120Well, first of all, I'm not sure what mass surveillance means, Pat, but, um, but by any standard, I, I wouldn't describe it as mass surveillance by Brown University.
00:33:35.120There are cameras that they have in place in an effort to protect their students.
00:33:38.120And, unfortunately here, given location, given age of building, um, there, we just don't have additional video footage.
00:33:47.120I wish we, trust me, I wish we did, um, but we don't, and so we're doing everything we can to find additional footage from the neighborhoods, uh, re, um, re, uh, uh, reinvent, uh, his path of travel, and continue to canvas for either people who may have seen him, encountered him, or who have video evidence that can supplement what you already have.
00:34:33.120That MIT, Jewish professor, was basically executed.
00:34:37.120Do you have any intelligence on how that person was operating there?
00:34:41.120You know, it's, it's interesting, uh, Colonel, Colonel Noble reached out to me very early, um, their lead on that particular incident, uh, he made sure that if there's any intelligence, any information in which is connected to what we have here, that they would share that.
00:34:57.120At this time, there seems to be no connection as it relates to, uh, that particular incident.
00:35:02.120What, as a, uh, FBI agent follow-up, what, what do you see in that individual who's walking?
00:35:08.120For example, you know, he's walking with his arms behind his back.
00:35:11.120And I've seen people talk about, that's, that's not like a young kid on a campus.
00:35:16.120That scene where he's, you know, walking, that's something more either European or Middle Eastern.
00:35:21.120What, what do you see so far in this video that we see in this subject?
00:35:27.120You know, I think the, the Colonel articulated in a sense what, what they see, I'd say from an
00:35:32.120FBI perspective, um, we have individuals that can hypothesize on that, our behavioral analysis unit, and those type of individuals.
00:35:40.120I will say I, I would be, I think, getting a little ahead of things if I give you kind of an inference of what I see in that particular behavior.
00:35:47.120It can mean a lot of things to be truly transparent with you.
00:35:50.120And, uh, to get into the mind of an individual that would commit such a heinous act, um, that's a place in which I don't want to go right now.
00:35:59.120I'm not sure what was going on in that particular group at that time.
00:37:34.120It, it, it depends on the circumstances and where the active shooter would be, but you don't want to ever get people rushing into buildings that might be the site of an active shooter.
00:38:03.120Uh, Attorney General Morano, what are the, uh, characteristics of the guy in the first video that makes you believe that he's also the same guy in the video that was released yesterday and then the follow-up for President Paxson?
00:38:15.120Yeah, look, I think that, um, that is an analysis that has been done, uh, by the agents and the detectives.
00:38:24.120Um, a lot of factors are going into that.
00:38:27.120Um, a lot of it is, is being able to, and as I just saw upstairs, a really terrific job of tracing movements.
00:38:34.120And when you put movements and times together, um, it's easy to, to, to, easier perhaps is the best word, uh, to identify them as the same person.
00:38:45.120Now, look, look, there are no absolutes in any investigation and I'm not about to make absolute statements in this one either.
00:38:52.120Um, but that's, that's the general reasoning for why we concluded that.
00:38:57.120Okay, just a, a follow-up, uh, to President Paxson.
00:39:00.120Right now, uh, school break is pretty much underway for a lot of university students.
00:39:05.120Um, have you met with, uh, the police department and board trustees on how you're gonna secure, uh, the university going into the second semester?
00:39:14.120Are you making any changes, uh, to the way, uh, you guys operate?
00:39:18.120Well, right now we have been, uh, the campus is emptying out first as you, as you said, but we still have staff and faculty and graduate students and international students who will remain on campus during the winter break.
00:40:09.120Um, if I were, if someone were, province residents were to see someone who matched the description of the person of interest,
00:40:15.120how would they be sure that the American building was a federal pricey?
00:40:20.120Uh, the tip line that we've been providing, uh, throughout the last several days,
00:40:25.120401-272-3121, uh, that call comes in here, uh, and, uh, and is answered, uh, in this building, uh, with province police professionals and our partners at the FBI.
00:40:42.120Uh, that is the, that is who's manning the phones.
00:40:46.120Uh, and we are encouraging anybody who has relevant information to please use that tip line.
00:40:52.120Uh, and, and they should know that that's who's on the other end of the phone.
00:40:55.120Uh, and, uh, and, and again, if you have relevant information or information that you think might help us with this investigation, we encourage you.
00:41:03.120Are there anything that can be differentiated between this person and an ICE agent who would be masked up walking through town and not be approached by the police in the same way this person was?
00:41:15.120Uh, again, we've worked really hard to build the trust of our community here in Providence, and I'm telling you that that phone number, 401-272-3121, uh, rings in this building, uh, and is answered by province police and or FBI.
00:41:29.120Uh, those are the agencies that are processing, running down, and investigating, uh, any relevant information.
00:41:35.120And we urge folks, if you have relevant information, to please use that phone number.
00:41:56.120You mentioned that you have no idea if the shooter is still in the area.
00:42:00.120Have you been working with any law enforcement agencies in other states that are nearby?
00:42:04.120Yes, we're working with every municipality, uh, here in the state of Rhode Island, and, uh, obviously, every Massachusetts, there's, obviously, we have conversations with them as well.
00:42:13.120But, uh, the majority of the law enforcement that we're working with right now is our own, you know, nearby municipalities, the Rhode Island State Police, and every agency that you can think of, uh, federal agency in this building.
00:42:24.120Are you working with agencies in Connecticut?
00:42:27.120We have conversations with them, but no, they're not here, no.
00:42:34.120What's really critical first is that we identify who the person is.
00:42:37.120You know, once we identify who this person is, I believe we'll be able to locate them.
00:42:42.120It's very hard to hide in this country.
00:42:44.120But until you have a name, which is why we're working so hard to identify them, um, it doesn't, it's not particularly productive to reach out to law enforcement across the country as to who you're looking for, because we don't yet know who we're looking for.
00:42:58.120So that's why we have to identify the person.
00:43:00.120Once we've identified him, you know, we'll know more information about where he's from, and who his friends are, and where he might go.
00:43:06.120So those are the things that we can do once we have an identification of this person.
00:43:12.120And that's why the team now is laser focused on identifying who this person is in this video.
00:43:18.120How many of the students who were inside that building, and also outside, have detectives been able to interview, and have they elaborated anything this man said?
00:43:37.120Like when he yelled something in the classroom before opening fire, that he appeared to be wearing a bulletproof vest, and that's why he appeared to help you.
00:43:46.120It's a good amount of, uh, interviews that we've conducted.
00:43:49.120We have re-interviewed several people.
00:43:51.120Um, and so I just want to tell you that's part of the investigation right now.
00:43:55.120We'll continue, we'll continue to investigate, we'll continue to speak with them.
00:43:58.120And, uh, like the general state of this, and we just try to build the case here and make sure that we can move forward and continue the progress as we do, as we're doing.
00:44:06.120But the interviews are still being conducted.
00:44:09.120But Chief, they haven't elaborated, they haven't elaborated exactly what this man did say and what he was yelling.
00:44:50.120To that point, at any point, will there be kind of like a map put out as to which cameras you're seeing him on to kind of give an idea to the public of, maybe my camera's there, maybe my Tesla's there, like you said?
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00:58:43.120My colleague Jack Prosobik, who had to leave to get down to D.C. for an event he's speaking at, is that this was kind of a train wreck.
00:58:52.120You should know throughout the day, throughout the day, there's been an individual, I guess, Brown University, and the Brown University officials have been taking down his social media.
00:59:05.120And, of course, his social media is a little controversial.
00:59:08.120So the social media is a lot of a lot of discussion there.
00:59:11.120Of course, the district attorney said right there, they don't know.
00:59:14.120They don't want to mention the guy's name.
00:59:18.120And, you know, people essentially shouldn't get worked up about it.
00:59:21.120Then he said there's been no targeting.
00:59:23.120In fact, the strongest point of the press conference was to chew out the reporters.
00:59:28.120And I guess you, the public, for even bringing this up, was going to be targeted for cultural and political reasons, the whole Ella Cook situation.
00:59:37.120I could also add that in this fiasco, they just, they admitted they only started asking the merchants for the footage today.
00:59:46.120And so that press conference, I didn't think it gave a high level of confidence.
00:59:52.120If Cash or Bongino are watching that and they're agent in charge, it seems to me it's time for somebody in authority to step in here because you're three days into this.
01:00:00.120And it seems like they're asking this, Jack Posobiec tweeted, they're asking the, they're giving numbers out and say, hey, call if you see the video, you've got any other video.
01:00:08.120And then they're chewing people out and jumping on people if they say anything about it.
01:00:51.120They can't tell you what the guy yelled.
01:00:52.120And then they sit there and the guy, the police chief, who's a migrant, by the way, drops English and he starts speaking Spanish in a press conference.
01:01:00.120It's going out to the United States of America where last time I checked, we speak English.
01:01:35.120They're obviously lying up there because the prosecutor who's very, has no poker face whatsoever.
01:01:40.120They all lied and said, they don't know what you're talking about, about anyone getting, getting name scrubbed.
01:01:45.120There was an individual whose name has been scrubbed from that Brown University's website.
01:01:51.120I had a source from Rhode Island that said the police were aware of this and were looking into him.
01:01:56.120They hadn't confirmed anything, but they were looking into it.
01:01:59.120And that that's who the prosecutor was referring to when he said, oh, you're don't ask questions about this because, you know, we know you're trying to make this a cultural thing.
01:02:11.120Do you not have information or do you?
01:02:13.120Because if you're trying to say you're, he's calling people racist because one of the guys who people were looking at said, this guy might be some kind of Muslim might be some kind of migrant.
01:02:22.120And they wanted to know because he matched profile that people were looking at.
01:02:28.120And he was a member of one of these groups.
01:02:30.120Now, we think we're, we're not calling for any, any kind of extra judicial responses here.
01:02:35.120We're saying people are out there on the internet saying, look, here's a guy who's on campus that seemed to match this, that potentially could be a suspect.
01:03:16.120Said, I certainly hope that he's being looked into.
01:03:18.120But then before the afternoon show came on today, they start erasing every single instance of this individual's name from Brown University's website.
01:03:29.120And behind the scenes, you should know, Jack is getting a lot of people and authority back there saying, hey, there's something not right here.
01:03:36.120So there's a lot more than they put in that press conference.
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