Bannon's War Room - December 24, 2025


Episode 5019： Does New Polling Reveal Christ Is Alive In The US


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50 minutes

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8,979

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676

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Hate Speech Sentences

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Summary

The economy grew 4.3% in Q4, beating the 4.2% estimate by a full percentage point, and on pace for 5% growth in the first half of 2019. The Dow Jones Industrial Average, S&P 500, and Nasdaq all hit new all-time highs after the data, and the dollar hit a 2 1/2 month low against the dollar.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 We are looking right now at the GDP number at 4.3 percent is the actual number versus an estimate of 3.3 percent.
00:00:06.560 Mark Tepper, your reaction.
00:00:08.380 So last week we talked about inflation coming in lower than expected.
00:00:11.840 Now economic growth is one full percentage point faster than expected.
00:00:16.500 It was supposed to come in at 3.3, came in at 4.3.
00:00:20.140 This is a direct result of everything President Trump has put in place.
00:00:23.980 Net exports are on the rise because of Trump's tariff policy, which is leveling the trade playing field.
00:00:30.480 AI is increasing productivity.
00:00:32.420 Businesses are investing in spending and the consumer remains strong.
00:00:36.680 And just think next, I think, well, next quarter, they'll end up getting an extra $150 billion in refund checks that they can then deploy and spend as well.
00:00:47.720 So great number.
00:00:49.400 Great number, 4.3 percent.
00:00:51.300 And I've got to say, when I see a GDP of 4.3 percent, I have to believe 5 percent is not far away.
00:00:58.660 And that, of course, is what Louis Navalier told us last week, Mark, that we're going to see a 5 percent GDP handle in the first half of the year.
00:01:05.760 He looks like Nostradamus right now.
00:01:08.660 I mean, he almost predicted that on the head.
00:01:11.360 Obviously, 5 percent is well within our reach, especially given the consumer tailwinds I just mentioned.
00:01:18.220 Right.
00:01:18.400 Well, it's really a fantastic number, and it's a great Christmas present for the American people.
00:01:23.820 And, you know, I would say that the headline for me is two things.
00:01:28.560 I think the big macro trends that we're seeing in these numbers are, first of all, that President Trump's trade agenda is working.
00:01:36.720 And so we got about, you know, one and a half percent of the growth on 4.3 because we reduced the trade deficit.
00:01:42.700 And then the other thing that I think, which is a big macro thing that we're seeing, is that the artificial intelligence productivity boom is really clearly in the data.
00:01:52.600 And I guess you and I are old enough that we remember back in the 90s when the computer came in that all of a sudden you had like 4 percent quarters all the time, one after the other.
00:02:01.800 And it kept surprising people because they thought, oh, you know, computers everywhere, a bit of the productivity data, but we're seeing it in the data and we're seeing the same kind of regular surprises for market participants.
00:02:13.000 And so we went back and we looked at every Bloomberg forecast for the main numbers since September and found that on average, we outperformed the forecast 94 percent of the time.
00:02:23.220 So if 94 percent of Wall Street economists are getting the macro trends wrong, they need to start to think about, hey, you know, maybe Trump's policies are actually way better than we thought.
00:02:32.480 And maybe the fake news that says all these terrible things about Trump policies should reconsider and, you know, grab their pencil and redo their economics.
00:02:40.300 Let's get the bond report. Rick Santelli has more on how the markets are reacting to all of these cross currents. Rick, what can you tell us?
00:02:47.500 Well, you know, I like the way the charts tell a picture.
00:02:50.100 If you look at twos and tens when the number was released, a couple of things should jump out at you.
00:02:54.960 The twos definitely seem to be more aggressive in holding the upside.
00:02:59.180 I don't think that's for any big reasons to explain the Fed or acknowledge percentages and probabilities.
00:03:06.760 I think it's purely the next chart, which is 10 years bucking up against that 419 to 420 resistance.
00:03:13.240 That chart goes back nearly two weeks and stopping it there makes perfect sense.
00:03:18.340 And if you open the chart up, should we settle above 419 and it doesn't look like we will, that'd be a three and a half month high yield close.
00:03:27.120 To me, a bit of the surprise today was the dollar index.
00:03:30.440 When the data was released at 830, it definitely turned up.
00:03:33.540 It had been moving down, but it really doesn't alter the general picture.
00:03:37.240 Any close today below 9814 is a two and a half month low.
00:03:42.380 And to answer your question more directly, Kelly, I personally still don't see any path to get to 2%.
00:03:49.200 So many could disinflation, especially those that were potential picks for Fed chairs.
00:03:54.880 But ultimately, just like anything else in our economy, when the economy gets good, competition for capital gets hot.
00:04:03.440 And that's why usually, historically, a good economy may have higher rates, specifically on the long end.
00:04:10.060 It isn't necessarily a bad thing.
00:04:12.800 I think the big negative here is the fact that we have one report with hot inflation.
00:04:18.300 We have other reports with cool inflation.
00:04:20.320 I need to get a better GPS.
00:04:22.560 And in terms of consumer confidence, I would take a very big shovel and shovel them all right into the garbage dump.
00:04:29.880 Because Main Street media has polluted the well.
00:04:33.860 And this administration doesn't get a lot of credit that the markets give it.
00:04:38.280 And I think that's what the issue is, driving negative confidence.
00:04:44.600 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.
00:04:48.500 Pray for our enemies.
00:04:51.700 Because we're going medieval on these people.
00:04:54.940 Here's the reason I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.
00:04:59.200 The people have had a belly full of it.
00:05:01.100 I know you don't like hearing that.
00:05:02.540 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that.
00:05:04.280 But you're not going to stop it.
00:05:05.220 It's going to happen.
00:05:06.480 And where do people like that go to share the big line?
00:05:09.900 Mega media.
00:05:10.800 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.
00:05:16.720 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?
00:05:20.420 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.
00:05:26.840 War Room.
00:05:27.640 Here's your host, Stephen K. Banff.
00:05:30.120 Tuesday, 23 December, year of early 2025, I said in my speech the other night to Amfest
00:05:42.620 that this would be the, I don't want to say next, the midterm election, most important election in history.
00:05:50.040 You've heard that every election for years, although we have won seven of eight national elections since 2015, 2016,
00:05:56.420 that this would be the hardest and toughest and I think the most politically violent
00:06:02.540 because the radical left is about to lose the economic argument.
00:06:07.160 You can tell this as we've been tracking our border and bringing you the top experts to talk about the big, beautiful bill
00:06:14.520 and the capital expenditure from that and the tax relief that capital providers are getting,
00:06:20.420 companies are getting, plus the forcing function of the pincer move, the forcing function of the tariffs,
00:06:27.940 which are driving corporate and country investment in the United States in plant and equipment,
00:06:35.680 to which President Trump says 19 trillion, but it's, I don't know if that's the exact number,
00:06:40.020 but it's a big number, as is the big number other.
00:06:42.780 That is coming now, but it's really going to manifest itself in the first and second quarter.
00:06:48.220 Folks, I just want you to know the number that came out today when you really get below the hood
00:06:52.660 is pretty damn impressive.
00:06:54.480 If you couple that with the inflation number the other day, we're a point down on inflation,
00:06:59.180 which is nobody expected that.
00:07:01.840 And now you have 4.3% growth.
00:07:04.440 And as EJ and Tony said today, this is not because of government spending.
00:07:07.200 A lot of the positive numbers you had during the Biden regime was 100% because of government spending.
00:07:15.040 Here you've got a consumer, you got, you know, solid consumer spending.
00:07:19.080 It's just not all in the elites.
00:07:21.560 You've got some CapEx coming in.
00:07:24.360 These are very solid numbers.
00:07:25.740 And as Maria Bartiromo said, hey, if you got 4.3 now, she sees a five handle sometime in 2026.
00:07:36.140 And we start getting 5% growth.
00:07:37.760 You're kind of turbocharging in the modern world.
00:07:40.140 My point, if this trend continues, particularly when the big payoff of the capital expenditure,
00:07:47.340 and of course, they talked there about the tax returns and all the different tax breaks
00:07:51.000 he's given working class people, and what they're talking about, these refunds,
00:07:55.020 plus you got the 1776 money coming in.
00:07:58.240 You know, you could put up some big numbers, potentially.
00:08:00.960 The Democrats are going to lose the club that they have tried to browbeat President Trump
00:08:05.260 from the beginning of the economy.
00:08:06.400 He got a terrible economy, and it looks like with, you know, Scott Besson, Peter Navarro,
00:08:12.820 Hassett, with no help from Powell and the Fed at all, we've had Malpass on here telling you
00:08:18.140 about how it's an anti-growth strategy over there, that it is, this is enormously, enormously
00:08:23.260 impressive.
00:08:24.660 And a bunch of the people are sitting there going, oh, Trump is finished, it's done,
00:08:29.680 let's move on.
00:08:30.680 And MAGA, you know, MAGA's like the school cafeteria now.
00:08:33.320 Who's sitting at the cool clubs, the cool kids table?
00:08:35.740 Who's saying what about what person?
00:08:38.360 As I said at that speech the other night, and I tell you every day on the show,
00:08:42.260 that's not, that's all noise.
00:08:43.940 All of it's noise.
00:08:45.680 There are deep, deep things going on here that, from a policy perspective, whether it's AI,
00:08:51.540 whether it's this issue of greater Israel, whether it's the mass deportations,
00:08:56.220 and at the cornerstone of it is the economy.
00:09:00.740 Now, we're, as a populist nationalist movement, we're not like the traditional Republicans,
00:09:05.480 the economy's everything, because we're much more than the economy.
00:09:08.640 We're a country and a culture and a society.
00:09:10.700 And on that note, the Supreme Court, I'm not saying it's a total loss, but I think it was
00:09:17.760 a surprise, at least it was a surprise to me, maybe not to some of the people on the
00:09:21.700 left and maybe not even some of the people that were arguing it.
00:09:25.220 Although I think the administration, we did get a speed bump today.
00:09:29.240 They've ruled that, it's 6-3, that the troops can't go into Chicago to remove, to support
00:09:37.540 the ICE agents in removing illegals.
00:09:40.260 For right now, that's on hold.
00:09:42.240 The president can't send them in until the whole thing's adjudicated.
00:09:45.340 In other words, they were looking for temporary relief to keep the troops in there.
00:09:49.520 The Supreme Court has essentially backed President Trump's Article II powers and the expansion of
00:09:56.660 those powers to what the Constitution says.
00:09:59.920 And I think this is the first time we've really hit a speed bump.
00:10:02.920 We're going to get more about that.
00:10:04.120 We're trying to get Mike Davis, some of the legal guys, but we've got Neil McCabe, who's
00:10:07.100 a National Guard, to give that perspective.
00:10:10.580 I want to bring in Barris, Richard Barris.
00:10:13.140 So, Richard, you've done this big poll.
00:10:14.640 You always do a Christmas poll, and I want to get to that.
00:10:17.000 But I got to ask you, these numbers, and I'm going to replay part of that cold open later.
00:10:21.380 You saw the, you know, kind of the people very excited.
00:10:26.860 I won't say ecstatic, but very excited about where these numbers are going, particularly
00:10:31.140 people that are supporters of President Trump.
00:10:34.080 And I can just double up.
00:10:35.400 If you read the FT, if you read the New York Times business section, the Washington Post
00:10:38.900 business section, the Wall Street Journal, it's always doom and gloom.
00:10:43.120 Their elements, they like the tax cuts for themselves on the big, beautiful bill.
00:10:49.140 But they say President Trump's lost, you know, the animal spirits have lost confidence in
00:10:54.680 him.
00:10:54.940 I think it's anything but that.
00:10:57.140 I think these numbers today are pretty shocking.
00:10:59.260 Thoughts about that, Richard?
00:11:00.400 Because I said, hey, look, as soon as the Democrats lose affordability, and they got a double whammy,
00:11:07.840 you had a significant drop in inflation and toward growth.
00:11:11.500 I mean, it should be the exact opposite.
00:11:13.160 President Trump, kind of the magic he pulled in 2017 to 2019, culminating in 2019, may be
00:11:20.440 back at work, sir.
00:11:22.660 Yeah, thanks, Steve, for having me, as always.
00:11:24.600 Merry Christmas, everybody.
00:11:25.740 Look, that report, you know, you watch CNN, you watch CNBC, and, you know, they can't help
00:11:31.980 it.
00:11:32.180 They have to, you know, at least they could try to glaze if they want.
00:11:35.780 But this was a much bigger number than expected.
00:11:38.040 And truth be told, if you understand how the methodology for GDP works, you understood
00:11:43.580 from the beginning the brilliance of Donald Trump's tariff strategy, Steve.
00:11:47.600 We've had this insane policy of slicing a massive chunk of our GDP off with ridiculous trade
00:11:56.240 deficits.
00:11:56.620 And now we have these multi-year lows that we haven't seen in a long time or narrowing of
00:12:02.220 the deficit, plus the tariffs themselves.
00:12:04.940 And I think this is a very big deal for people who had to, you know, tolerate and live through
00:12:10.940 what the left-wing media had said would happen with these tariffs.
00:12:14.480 They did not create the inflationary crisis that the chicken littles who were claiming the
00:12:21.000 sky was going to fall said they would create.
00:12:23.920 So this fear that they put into the public never came to fruition.
00:12:28.420 And now we're seeing this huge growth.
00:12:30.200 I was listening to Marie in the open, you know, 5% growth on the horizon.
00:12:35.440 It can happen.
00:12:36.260 He changed.
00:12:37.260 He did something that no other president really had the, you know, the stomach or the backbone
00:12:41.840 to do.
00:12:42.800 He went after the ridiculous trade regime.
00:12:46.280 And that was always going to have a dramatic impact on GDP.
00:12:49.880 Plus, spending was a lot much more than people expected.
00:12:53.640 It was 3.5.
00:12:55.140 The consensus on Econo Day was two and a half.
00:12:57.340 That's a big beat, Steve.
00:12:59.160 A big beat.
00:13:00.880 People don't spend when they're concerned.
00:13:02.960 Huge.
00:13:03.540 It's a major, it's a major print.
00:13:07.160 I remember when we were talking about the big, beautiful bill and debt and deficits and
00:13:10.560 increasing.
00:13:11.080 The audience will remember this.
00:13:12.300 We had Besson on here.
00:13:13.340 We had, they were, Besson's theory of the case, if you can get to three, definitely three
00:13:19.800 and a half, but maybe 3% growth continuous off of this, that you could outrun the deficits
00:13:25.960 of adding more to the national debt.
00:13:28.340 I mean, none of those guys thought about a 4.3% in the third quarter in this year.
00:13:35.040 And I think what Maria is saying is that, hey, you can see, you can see a, you can see a print,
00:13:41.880 you can see a print for 5% in 2026.
00:13:45.300 This is why I say the Democrats, when you take this issue away from them, which they've
00:13:49.980 totally misread in the, in the, in the business media has been, you know, clubbing President
00:13:55.420 Trump.
00:13:56.160 This is why I said at AmFest, you take this, you take this issue away from them, they're
00:14:00.360 going to, they're going to go crazy and they're going to be even more dangerous than they've
00:14:04.980 been to date.
00:14:06.400 Anyway, Richard, you've got your Christmas poll you do every year and we always have you
00:14:09.380 on to talk about it.
00:14:10.180 Uh, we're packed.
00:14:12.200 We start off today.
00:14:13.540 I didn't want to have many guests.
00:14:14.580 I'm going to spend a lot of time with each guest and a couple of issues, including what's
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00:14:30.520 And it's about ending the MOU.
00:14:33.020 People have talked about extending it for another 25 years, about ending it, not taking any more
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00:16:32.060 Here's your host, Stephen K. Vance.
00:16:34.780 Richard Barris.
00:16:40.640 Good news today of the economy.
00:16:42.780 Of course, it's coming out a couple days before Christmas, so a lot of people,
00:16:46.060 though we're in posse, but a lot of people kind of punch out of the news
00:16:48.440 and are doing things closer to home.
00:16:51.460 But you've always got your Christmas poll.
00:16:55.860 You're revealing it now.
00:16:57.680 Can you walk us through it, sir?
00:16:59.640 A little late this year, Steve.
00:17:01.020 It's usually about a week earlier, but, you know, things, you know,
00:17:03.820 the calendar calls, right?
00:17:06.160 But every year we ask a series of questions.
00:17:09.060 Number one, do you celebrate Christmas?
00:17:10.500 And then various ways that people do.
00:17:12.360 We even ask what their favorite, you know, color scheme,
00:17:14.780 Christmas color scheme is.
00:17:16.200 The classic red and green, right?
00:17:18.280 The red and white candy cane, which is all really fun.
00:17:21.220 But I think the highlight from this poll is that this year,
00:17:24.140 well, first of all, 92% of the country still celebrates Christmas,
00:17:28.140 which is incredible.
00:17:30.060 But when this year we decided, we always had this question,
00:17:33.480 which asked people whether or not they, how religious do you celebrate Christmas?
00:17:37.580 Is it a strongly religious component for you?
00:17:40.620 Somewhat religious, not really religious.
00:17:42.780 And this year we wanted to expand on that.
00:17:44.700 And so we asked straight up about belief in God.
00:17:47.480 And that's not just to everyone who said, yes, they celebrate Christmas.
00:17:50.800 That's everybody in belief in God, about eight in 10 Americans believe in God.
00:17:56.540 As a testament to this being a Christian nation,
00:17:59.900 93% of them believe that Jesus Christ was the son of God,
00:18:05.680 which is something else that we asked, which I just thought is huge.
00:18:09.160 Somebody's got to point blank ask this.
00:18:11.500 We'll ask about the resurrection when we get around to Easter.
00:18:14.260 But we really wanted to ask that point blank to people.
00:18:17.100 And that number was massive.
00:18:18.680 Of the 10%, Steve, another big one,
00:18:22.340 of the 10% who told us that they were unsure about whether they believed in God,
00:18:26.880 because our results show that this unbelief for the rise of the nuns is probably exaggerated.
00:18:34.540 It's more like we have a bunch of spiritual or would-be spiritual people who want to believe in God
00:18:39.320 wandering around in the wilderness because church leaders are too busy,
00:18:43.500 you know, shilling for their favorite foreign policy or whatever it is.
00:18:47.360 But we were told by these people that the reason why they said unsure is that they think that God
00:18:54.300 probably or likely exists, 60% of them said that, and that they just have doubts.
00:19:01.340 So you have this massive number of people that we just consider to be unbelievers,
00:19:06.580 really not unbelievers.
00:19:08.660 They're celebrating Christmas.
00:19:10.340 They want to believe.
00:19:12.300 They just have doubts.
00:19:13.400 They have questions, and they don't know.
00:19:15.240 And I honestly think every year the Christmas poll, it's great, it's fun,
00:19:19.560 but it does highlight that the church has some real problems.
00:19:22.980 And this year when we prodded a little bit more, now we know why.
00:19:26.860 People are not answering their questions.
00:19:29.460 Only about 40% of those who said they were unsure said that it's likely in their minds maybe God doesn't exist,
00:19:36.760 but they still even doubt that.
00:19:39.480 Nobody, almost none of the people who said they're unsure say that, you know, God just doesn't exist.
00:19:46.620 That's amazing to me.
00:19:48.280 Think about that.
00:19:51.380 I mean, I'm going to interrupt you.
00:19:52.920 I want to go back to none.
00:19:53.980 Yeah, go ahead.
00:19:54.720 Yeah.
00:19:55.020 Yeah.
00:19:56.500 I want to go back and just make sure we get nomenclature right.
00:19:59.500 When you say nuns, that's N-O-N-E-S.
00:20:03.140 That's people that don't pick an affiliated religion at all, whether it's Hindu, Muslim, or Christian,
00:20:11.140 and then don't define it from there.
00:20:13.520 So let me back to that math again, and particularly how's it trended over time?
00:20:17.020 You do this every year.
00:20:18.820 You kind of take the temperature of the American people during one of our holiest seasons.
00:20:24.340 How is this trended over time?
00:20:25.580 Because everybody, Time Magazine, they all talk about nuns, and people are not affiliated.
00:20:30.660 How is that trended over time?
00:20:32.760 So the rise of the nuns, as they always like to call it, has flatlined and somewhat reversed.
00:20:40.020 And we measure this year over year, like you said.
00:20:42.960 Every year it appears to be marginal, but those nuns have fallen from a high of 24% to now around 19, 18%.
00:20:51.820 So it's on the decline.
00:20:53.560 It's just that these people don't know where to go.
00:20:56.200 That's what it comes down to.
00:20:57.560 They don't know where to go.
00:20:58.960 So they don't know who to ask.
00:21:00.600 They don't know where to pray.
00:21:01.740 They don't know where to go observe.
00:21:03.080 They feel like they have no idea, and they have a deep distrust of church institutions.
00:21:08.540 There have been various scandals over the years that have hurt religious identification pretty badly.
00:21:13.660 All of the research shows that.
00:21:16.220 But it doesn't mean they don't want to believe.
00:21:18.820 And it doesn't mean there's this incredible explosion of secularism.
00:21:22.420 There was, is what I'm trying.
00:21:24.320 There was once upon a time.
00:21:26.280 Now that has reversed.
00:21:28.420 As far as just the number of people who celebrate Christmas, the number who said they have no religious affiliation but celebrate this year is actually up about four points from last year.
00:21:38.920 Which, you know, these things don't happen in huge blocks.
00:21:42.020 But we do watch the trends.
00:21:44.040 And I think this, again, I mean, the highlight of this poll every year is that I think church leaders need to remind themselves what their primary focus is.
00:21:54.380 Steve, if you're a Christian like you or I am, right, you believe in the eternity of the soul and you believe in salvation, especially if you're a believer in Christ.
00:22:03.900 And if you said, if any of these respondents said, yes, I believe that Jesus was the Son of God, then you have a duty to go out and get those people and save them, right?
00:22:14.820 I mean, that's what this is all about.
00:22:16.560 And not every person takes it as seriously as maybe they should if they're Christians.
00:22:20.620 But you know who should every day?
00:22:22.740 Church leadership.
00:22:24.240 And they're too busy at this event, you know, talking to this, you know, this lobbying group.
00:22:30.860 I mean, they're all over the place.
00:22:32.300 Let's get real.
00:22:33.400 They're all over the place.
00:22:34.660 And they need to refocus on what their primary mission is, save souls.
00:22:41.220 We had the head of, I've got a clip, I haven't played it yet, of the head of the Catholic bishops.
00:22:47.160 And, you know, the Catholic, what, refugee, along with the Lutheran refugee, they're taking money hand over fist on this scam to let these refugees illegally in the country and then skim money off the top.
00:22:58.300 The bishop just sits right there.
00:22:59.860 He made a video about how they adamantly opposed President Trump's deportation plans.
00:23:06.660 Really, you know, illegal.
00:23:07.560 They call them undocumented.
00:23:08.500 They're not undocumented.
00:23:09.280 These people are undocumented.
00:23:11.240 It's like they didn't get their driver's license updated.
00:23:14.120 That's not this at all.
00:23:15.160 This is an illegal alien invasion.
00:23:17.840 And the Catholic charities has been one of the worst in exacerbating this.
00:23:23.920 Let me go back because there's all this debate now.
00:23:26.240 Is this a Christian nation or not a Christian nation?
00:23:28.300 Your polling shows what?
00:23:29.820 What percentage of people are Christians and then what percentage of people are trying to have lived Christianity by regularly attending religious services or being part of a religious community or denomination?
00:23:43.940 Yeah, so here's the kicker.
00:23:45.780 80% overall say they believe in God.
00:23:49.280 Of those people, 93% say that Jesus Christ was the Son of God.
00:23:55.560 Yet, only about 40% or 45% will call themselves or identify with being Protestant or another denomination.
00:24:05.000 And about 25, upwards of 30 sometimes, will call themselves Catholic.
00:24:09.360 So you have this gap, right?
00:24:11.360 Anywhere between 10, 15, sometimes it's even 20 points of people who don't want to identify with one of those traditional Christian denominations yet are saying they believe in God.
00:24:22.100 So something is wrong.
00:24:23.400 They want – and by the way, the vast majority of them think that Jesus was the Son of God.
00:24:30.000 So this is a church failure.
00:24:32.560 And you have the Catholic Church who has never quite recovered from their scandal, right, with children.
00:24:40.500 We had that, but also they're not only out of step with Americans on an issue like immigration.
00:24:47.760 Real Clear Politics just did the Catholic voter poll, which showed they're out of step with their own congregate – with their own Catholic membership.
00:24:56.500 In America, Catholics have always been a bit of a thorn in the side for the pope, right, in the papacy and Vatican.
00:25:01.360 But they are overwhelmingly on Donald Trump's side and Republican's side of this issue while their leadership goes on and on about doing your Christian duty.
00:25:10.560 Well, how many illegal immigrants has the Vatican taken this year, right?
00:25:14.720 Of course, they're worried about preserving the value of their own citizenship and their identity as only 600 and something citizens in the Vatican, right?
00:25:23.040 So, yeah, so are we.
00:25:24.980 And they don't seem to care because why?
00:25:26.860 Because it's money and it's big business.
00:25:28.380 And then on the other side of that, on the Protestant side of that, Steve, these people are orphaned because the truth is mainstream and evangelical Protestantism really has not recovered in the eyes of the general public since the Jimmy Swagger and the Hagee scandals.
00:25:45.500 They view them as judgmental hypocrites.
00:25:49.400 Let's just be real.
00:25:50.660 Judgmental hypocrites who are more concerned about the politics of other nations than they are about the politics of their own.
00:25:56.720 So these people are just walking around in the wilderness looking for God, and there's nobody to tend to the flock.
00:26:04.160 I mean, to that flock.
00:26:05.940 And that's a shame.
00:26:07.200 But it does highlight how God is just on the move, whether those leaders are there or not.
00:26:13.980 And that's because people are searching for something.
00:26:15.920 And I think there are fundamental truths that we've been missing in this society, and people want to return to them.
00:26:20.280 You've been doing this for years.
00:26:23.220 Just tell people how big a sample size you get.
00:26:25.260 Walk through the big data.
00:26:27.160 Walk through the big data process of deriving these numbers, because the numbers may shock some people.
00:26:31.380 How do you derive this?
00:26:33.300 This is the biggest poll on RealClearPolitics right now.
00:26:36.140 It's almost 4,000, with 3,977 to be exact.
00:26:42.780 And we have mixed modes, ways that we reach people.
00:26:46.180 And by mixed mode, there's different ways that you – data collection modes that you can reach people.
00:26:50.020 Some people are online opt-in panels.
00:26:52.380 Some people are phone and interview.
00:26:54.500 Some people are text or text to online.
00:26:56.620 We do it all, Steve.
00:26:58.060 And the reason is – and I'm going to commit pollster heresy right now.
00:27:02.500 But the truth is we don't all have landlines anymore.
00:27:05.860 So the principles of randomization are not what they once were.
00:27:08.580 So different groups respond at different rates at – or different groups respond at different modes at different rates.
00:27:15.980 So we have to account for that.
00:27:17.660 So the way around that and the way – or at least the way to counter that and the way to deal with lower response rates that we've seen as pollsters over the years is to increase your sample.
00:27:29.120 All right?
00:27:29.280 In this case, guys, sorry, bigger really is better.
00:27:31.900 And you have to collect larger samples to account for it.
00:27:34.900 Richard Barris, thank you.
00:27:39.640 We're going to push this out.
00:27:41.680 Where do people go to get the People's Pundit?
00:27:44.560 We're everywhere.
00:27:45.420 Getter, Truth, Locals, the best place is Locals.
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00:27:49.980 Merry Christmas, guys.
00:27:51.280 All the best.
00:27:53.180 Merry Christmas.
00:27:54.500 Thank you for the poll, sir.
00:27:55.580 I'm sure it will be discussed a lot around the Christmas table.
00:28:01.460 Richard Barris, the Christmas poll, does it every year.
00:28:03.480 Short break.
00:28:05.420 We're going to come back.
00:28:06.120 We've got Tej Gill, Neil McKay.
00:28:07.300 We're going to talk about the Supreme Court.
00:28:09.900 Kind of a ruling against President Trump.
00:28:11.620 Haven't had a lot of those.
00:28:14.220 Federalizing the National Guard and sending them into places like Chicago to clean out that mess and protect ICE as they do the mass deportations.
00:28:21.740 6-3.
00:28:22.800 Court says, man, let's slow it down.
00:28:25.080 Let's slow your roll, Mr. President, Mr. Commander-in-Chief.
00:28:28.820 Short break.
00:28:29.260 Here's your host, Stephen K. Mann.
00:28:36.760 Okay.
00:28:37.540 Tomorrow for our Christmas Eve show, we'll start at 10 o'clock in the morning.
00:28:42.900 We're going to be in Israel with Jason Jones.
00:28:45.700 He'll be in Bethlehem at Manger Square and in Rome at the Vatican.
00:28:49.260 Ben Harnwell will be at St. Peter's Square.
00:28:51.800 And so we will go back and forth and talk to pilgrims and tourists and officials in both.
00:28:58.280 I think it's going to be great.
00:28:59.100 Couldn't be more excited about it.
00:29:00.120 I want to thank Jason Jones and his team and Ben Harnwell, who is our team.
00:29:06.440 I think he actually may be taking a cameraman.
00:29:08.980 I want to thank everybody for setting this up in Real America's Voice.
00:29:11.100 Really looking forward to it.
00:29:12.180 Don't miss tomorrow morning's show.
00:29:13.940 We're getting Neil McCabe's camera set, so I want to go to Trevor Comstock.
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00:32:50.220 Okay.
00:32:50.640 The president has not lost many at the Supreme Court, particularly in his role as commander-in-chief.
00:32:55.880 Let's go.
00:32:56.160 We've got a cold open for Neal McCabe and Tej.
00:32:58.740 Also, Eric Tietzel is going to join us in the next hour to discuss this.
00:33:02.340 This is quite important, really a first speed bump we've hit on this.
00:33:06.000 Let's go ahead and play it.
00:33:06.780 The Supreme Court, in a 6-3 decision, has blocked the Trump administration from federalizing and deploying members of the National Guard in Illinois.
00:33:16.280 Joining me now, MSNOW Legal Affairs reporter Fallon Gallagher.
00:33:19.560 Fallon, what can you tell us about this decision?
00:33:21.240 Yeah, Ariel, this is a significant loss for the Trump administration.
00:33:24.020 The court had been weighing this bid since October.
00:33:27.000 This is one of those cases that came through the emergency docket.
00:33:29.860 The Trump administration had asked to allow the deployment and the federalization of the National Guard in Illinois.
00:33:36.140 Now, they've been sitting on it for a while, which caused us to speculate.
00:33:39.000 Maybe they were waiting to see whether this happened in another city and maybe there was a circuit split.
00:33:43.460 But now they've decisively ruled against the Trump administration, saying that he cannot deploy or federalize the National Guard in Illinois.
00:33:50.740 And I want to read very briefly from this ruling.
00:33:52.900 They say that the government has not carried its burden to show that the statute permits the president to federalize the Guard in the exercise of inherent authority to protect the federal personnel and property in Illinois.
00:34:03.720 We need not add and do not address the reviewability of findings made by the president under the statute or any other statute.
00:34:10.100 The application is denied.
00:34:11.600 This, I want to say, also appears to be 6-3, as with regular emergency docket applications.
00:34:17.380 You don't have to get that breakdown of how the justices voted.
00:34:20.900 We know that Gorsuch, Thomas and Alito all wrote dissenting opinions.
00:34:25.320 So it appears that it's 6-3.
00:34:27.260 It appears that Barrett and Roberts sided with the liberal justices here.
00:34:31.020 But again, this is a massive blow for the Trump administration.
00:34:33.720 So just for a second, speak about the possible wider implications of this ruling on the attempts to federalize the National Guard in other places in the country.
00:34:42.660 Yeah, the Supreme Court has now set this precedent here that the Trump administration cannot federalize or deploy the National Guard under this specific statute.
00:34:50.500 So this is a decisive victory or decisive loss for the Trump administration.
00:34:54.260 Wow.
00:34:55.260 Yeah.
00:34:56.260 And maybe they waited until right before Christmas to put this out.
00:35:02.560 Tej, I want to go to you first on just using the National Guard and what President Trump has done for law and order and also to protect ICE agents and federal buildings.
00:35:13.680 Because, you know, we've shown it all the way from Portland and Seattle to Chicago.
00:35:18.120 I mean, it's out of control.
00:35:19.280 Just practically, how are we going to get this done if you can't federalize the National Guard and put him in there for support?
00:35:26.200 Well, I think he's just going to have to surge more ICE agents to these high-risk areas that they're contested in.
00:35:35.800 Yeah, it's definitely not a good decision to come right before Christmas, and especially in a place like Chicago where they need the National Guard.
00:35:43.860 You see what they did in Los Angeles.
00:35:45.440 They definitely helped the National Guard there.
00:35:47.460 So if the Supreme Court's going to block the National Guard, then I think, I don't know if this is legal, but federalizing the National Guard by deputizing them and giving them federal credentials.
00:36:02.300 I don't know if that'll work, but if that doesn't, then he's just going to have to surge in ICE agents from other areas until they get this cleaned up.
00:36:09.480 And then he's just going to have to shuffle around ICE and Homeland Security agents to reinforce each other in these high-risk areas where they're actually contested by the local gangs and criminals.
00:36:22.160 Yeah.
00:36:23.280 Well, we haven't had time, but we could show Ben Burkwab has got amazing footage.
00:36:28.220 And we just, I mean, as soon as the ICE guys come in with the vehicles, they're now totally surrounded by these protesters.
00:36:35.260 They've got the whistles, they're banging the gongs, I mean, and the ICE agents, I think, are very, you know, I think almost overly professional sometimes and not getting the crowds out of the way.
00:36:45.720 But they've locked out.
00:36:47.300 Forget mass deportations.
00:36:48.560 You're kind of having a tough town getting the bad hombres out, those onesies, twosies that we were doing before.
00:36:53.900 So this is a huge blow, I think, just practically.
00:36:57.740 I think they need to surge some of the uniformed Border Patrol agents off the southern border to these high-risk areas and, you know, bring them in in armored vehicles and in their full uniform and full kit instead of rolling these guys in in civilian vehicles in their, you know, in their civilian clothes.
00:37:17.960 I think it's time to bring the armor in, bring full uniform Border Patrol agents in for short periods of time just to clean up these areas and then surge them back to the border and bring them back as needed in high-risk areas where the ICE agents are actually contested.
00:37:37.180 So hang on for a second.
00:37:38.400 We'll get Neil McCabe joins us.
00:37:39.780 Neil, you're still, you're National Guard, correct?
00:37:42.920 Yeah, I just retired this month from the Army Reserve after 32 years of Coast Guard and Army service.
00:37:53.160 So what does this mean by President Trump?
00:37:55.700 They've ruled against President Trump six to three.
00:37:57.780 And, folks, if you keep in score at home, Amy Coney Barrett and Roberts, that's correct.
00:38:03.700 They sided with the progressive, the radical progressives on the court.
00:38:08.360 Yeah, we're supposed to have a six.
00:38:09.320 The three most conservative.
00:38:09.780 So this is bad news.
00:38:11.620 We're supposed to have a six-three.
00:38:12.920 The three majority, Steve.
00:38:14.280 I mean, it's my understanding that Kavanaugh did a concurrent joining the majority.
00:38:20.000 And so, you know, this is a bad dynamic on the Supreme Court.
00:38:26.060 But it also, you know, it speaks to the actual, you know, essence of the republic, right?
00:38:31.260 If the NCO is the backbone of the Army, the Army is the backbone of the nation.
00:38:35.960 And if you can't exercise control over the Army, then what are we doing here?
00:38:41.020 You know, the initial call-up when Lincoln called up those first troops after Fort Sumner, that was, what, 75,000?
00:38:50.420 And that was all National Guard.
00:38:51.940 They were state militiamen.
00:38:53.260 But that was all National Guard that Lincoln was calling up.
00:38:56.480 JFK called up 30,000 National Guardsmen in active duty for the troubles in Alabama and Mississippi.
00:39:05.420 And so, you know, Eisenhower at Little Rock, Arkansas, and this wasn't national security.
00:39:11.820 Obviously, desegregation and civil rights is very important, and we all cherish those goals.
00:39:17.760 But it wasn't like the CHICOMs were coming over the hill.
00:39:21.420 This was literally law enforcement actions escorting children into a school.
00:39:27.120 And yet, I guess the rules are all different if it's a Republican, Steve.
00:39:32.740 Let me ask you, it seems like with the ICE agents and even with Border Patrol, like Tayshed coming up there,
00:39:41.280 the evidence we've seen from now 10 months of coverage of this with Ben Burkwam and the Great Real America's Voice team,
00:39:47.540 and it's getting more intense, is that it is physically impossible for ICE to actually do their jobs,
00:39:54.560 to do mass deportations, and even for law enforcement to kind of keep order.
00:39:58.720 You saw this in D.C.
00:40:00.160 I mean, what did they expect the president to do, Neil?
00:40:03.220 Because I think you guys were telling him that, hey, unless you have the Army Reserve,
00:40:06.920 unless you get to federalize the National Guard and get the Army Reserve in there,
00:40:10.600 you're not going to be able to get control of these streets and particularly do the mass deportations.
00:40:14.760 Yeah, well, you also have the dynamic of the local law enforcement is under the control of the local Democratic machines.
00:40:24.880 And so the local law enforcement is slowly rolling their response.
00:40:29.160 They're participating with the protesters.
00:40:31.220 They're coordinating with the protesters.
00:40:33.760 And so, you know, literally, these guys are being treated like they're an occupying force in foreign territory.
00:40:39.900 And so, you know, you can obviously the ICE agents and the Border Patrol agents, you know,
00:40:45.340 and the other, I understand, Secret Service is also involved.
00:40:48.320 You have Park Service being thrown in.
00:40:50.840 These guys, frankly, are putting on full battle rattle, and they're indistinguishable from soldiers.
00:40:57.700 If you look at them, I mean, they're in helmets, they're in full kit.
00:41:00.960 And so, you know, it's like, what do you got to get?
00:41:03.880 Six of one, half dozen of the other.
00:41:05.340 So we have to dress up our police officers like soldiers, or we can just use soldiers.
00:41:12.180 It's a very tricky thing.
00:41:14.300 And obviously, it's politically difficult, you know, for people who are dealing with Illinois and whatnot.
00:41:19.480 But if the president cannot control the military, then what are we doing here?
00:41:25.540 The party's over.
00:41:26.980 You know, the judges have no role in the military.
00:41:31.480 It just isn't in the Constitution.
00:41:33.060 There's not a lot of nuance in Commander-in-Chief.
00:41:36.540 It seems pretty definite.
00:41:38.660 And the idea that, you know, Jefferson Davis could have just filed for a restraining order against Lincoln,
00:41:44.740 and some judge would have said, I'm sorry, Mr. Lincoln, you have to back off, and you can't go in.
00:41:52.100 And that would be crazy.
00:41:53.720 Neil, hang on for a second.
00:41:57.760 Tej, hang on for a second.
00:41:59.000 We're going to take a short commercial break.
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00:42:38.000 Neil McCabe, you were in the government for the first, I think, 10 months or eight months of this second term.
00:42:44.440 What would be your recommendation to the president about this situation?
00:42:47.120 Well, I think that the, it's my understanding that that, despite what the cold open said, that there is some wiggle room for the government to come back and to better explain itself to the Supreme Court.
00:43:02.860 And so I think immediately John Sauer, the solicitor general, who's excellent, he and his team, they've had tremendous success with the Supreme Court.
00:43:12.140 I was really surprised it didn't go their way.
00:43:15.100 They just need to figure out how to do it and then just go back into the batting cage again and take a swing.
00:43:20.260 Because I think the justices, especially the, even the six, even the three who betrayed us, that's supposed to be our six-three majority.
00:43:29.540 I think those three understand that if you damage the presidency, no matter how much you might hate or resent or bitter about Trump, if you damage the presidency, then you're really taking the republic apart.
00:43:44.860 And it's basically going to break up into pieces.
00:43:47.640 And this is something that we were worried about.
00:43:49.820 If Trump lost or they certified that Harris was president, I fully expected, you know, the southern, southeastern states, there's going to be like an SEC nation.
00:44:00.360 And they would just sort of from Texas to Florida and up to Tennessee, right, they would just sort of leave.
00:44:05.380 And I think what we're seeing now with California and Illinois and certainly in Oregon and these other states, these guys are saying, hey, we're not in the federal government anymore.
00:44:13.320 We're not in the United States.
00:44:14.560 We're just going to do whatever we need.
00:44:16.920 In 24, we saw, you know, in Maine and Colorado where they said, we're not even going to put your candidate on our ballot.
00:44:24.380 That's how much we hate you.
00:44:25.900 And now they're saying our National Guard doesn't listen to you, doesn't take orders from you.
00:44:30.820 So last time I checked, the federal government basically finances probably 85 percent of those National Guard units.
00:44:37.980 I mean, those those are army soldiers.
00:44:41.120 Those are, you know, NCOs.
00:44:42.980 Those are officers.
00:44:44.220 And they all took an oath to obey the president of the United States and the Constitution.
00:44:50.000 So I don't know where we go from here, but definitely Sauer needs to go back to the Supreme Court and get this fixed.
00:44:58.180 Well, I think it took an oath to uphold the Constitution.
00:45:00.620 I'm not sure they took an oath.
00:45:02.040 I'm not sure it's in the oath.
00:45:03.100 I'm sorry.
00:45:03.700 Let me just straight out.
00:45:05.080 The president.
00:45:05.820 Upon their promotion.
00:45:06.660 Upon their promotion.
00:45:08.400 They when you make sergeant or lieutenant or you have to, you know, it's the president of the United States and the officers appointed above you.
00:45:16.400 Yes.
00:45:17.340 As commander in chief.
00:45:19.200 Where do you go, Neil?
00:45:20.820 Social media.
00:45:21.600 Now that you're out of the government, you're going to have a bigger role in news and TV and all that.
00:45:26.020 And social media.
00:45:26.660 Where do people go?
00:45:27.820 I'm reopening my retail media career, Steve.
00:45:31.380 No more black market media.
00:45:33.300 I'm at reporter McCabe on all the socials.
00:45:37.440 Getter, truth, X, all of them.
00:45:41.980 Neil, thanks for coming on.
00:45:43.300 Talk about the National Guard.
00:45:44.240 Appreciate you.
00:45:45.760 Thank you, sir.
00:45:46.800 Tietzel's.
00:45:47.340 Eric Tietzel's going to be in from CRA.
00:45:48.900 He's going to be in the second hour.
00:45:49.860 I think Neil's hit on this thing.
00:45:51.120 I think they gave him room to come back and refile.
00:45:53.720 So we'll get Tietzel to break it all down.
00:45:57.260 Tej, I need a cup of coffee.
00:45:59.660 It's late in the afternoon, early evening.
00:46:01.880 We still got another hour to go.
00:46:03.580 I need to get jacked up.
00:46:04.740 Where do I go?
00:46:05.660 I got I got one more thing on the Border Patrol thing before we push the coffee.
00:46:10.020 Here's a quick solution for you, Steve.
00:46:11.860 This is, you know, when we used to deploy to these war zones, they always had all these
00:46:15.960 crazy rules and we figured out how to work around the rules.
00:46:19.240 That's that's every time we go somewhere.
00:46:21.300 So here's a quick workaround for that.
00:46:23.020 So if you can't surge the Border Patrol to the cities and I'm sorry, surge the National
00:46:28.980 Guard to the cities, you surge the Border Patrol or surge the National Guard down to
00:46:33.400 the border, have them backfill the Border Patrol.
00:46:35.860 And then you send the Border Patrol agents up to Chicago.
00:46:39.540 That way, the border is still secure.
00:46:41.280 You use your Border, your National Guard down there where it's illegal to use them.
00:46:45.000 And then you take the Border Patrol and you surge those guys up to Chicago in these hot
00:46:49.640 spots and have them, you know, back up the ICE agents and send them up there with armored
00:46:55.640 vehicles and all that.
00:46:57.220 And if they want to do that in Chicago, that's fine because they can't stop the Border Patrol
00:47:01.180 because they're part of Homeland Security and ICE and Border Patrol work together.
00:47:05.160 So that's the easy solution.
00:47:07.440 You just got to get creative in these situations because, you know, that the liberals and the
00:47:12.140 judges are always going to push back against Trump.
00:47:14.440 So there you go.
00:47:18.820 Great solution.
00:47:20.100 We're going to make sure that's in the hopper.
00:47:22.000 Where do we go for I need I need still need my cup of coffee.
00:47:24.860 Where do I go?
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00:48:00.080 Tej Gill, one more time, where are they going?
00:48:01.860 I'm wanting to read all the reviews.
00:48:03.160 You got 16,000 five star reviews.
00:48:05.340 Where do people go to see the reviews?
00:48:06.780 You go to warpath.coffee and you just click on the reviews and you can just scroll through reviews all day long.
00:48:15.660 The people love this coffee.
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00:48:39.700 Merry Christmas, sir.
00:48:40.920 Thank you so much for joining us today.
00:48:42.500 Merry Christmas, Steve.
00:48:43.200 Tej Gill.
00:48:44.760 They drink the coffee black the way it's supposed to be consumed.
00:48:49.840 Catherine O'Neill.
00:48:51.080 I'm going to bifurcate this and do part of this in the next hour, but I've got to ask you.
00:48:55.920 Loomis has retired.
00:48:57.180 She's burned out.
00:48:58.540 She admits that.
00:48:59.400 Hageman's going to run for a seat out in Wyoming.
00:49:02.480 You're one of the biggest supporters of President Trump.
00:49:04.620 You've been with us from the beginning.
00:49:06.200 We're going to make an announcement here today on the War Room right before Christmas Eve.
00:49:11.140 Ma'am.
00:49:12.780 Hi, Steve.
00:49:13.660 I think it's wishful thinking.
00:49:15.720 I appreciate everything that both Senator Loomis and Representative Hageman have done for Wyoming.
00:49:21.420 But I will be staying right here at Meriwether Farms and raising my kid.
00:49:26.680 I'm very happy where I am.
00:49:29.040 Sorry for the letdown.
00:49:32.080 That's okay.
00:49:33.020 We need the animal spirits of entrepreneurs.
00:49:35.460 That's okay.
00:49:35.940 I knew when he went out west there's going to be a whole new deal, as I told you it would be.
00:49:40.340 Stick around for a second.
00:49:41.620 Catherine O'Neill.
00:49:42.380 One of the fiercest and earliest warriors in the MAGA movement with President Trump from the beginning.
00:49:50.320 Now the founder, CEO, and chairman of Meriwether Farms.
00:49:53.520 We're going to take a short commercial break and leave you with the right stuff.
00:49:56.920 Joe Allen, Catherine O'Neill, Eric Tietzel.
00:50:00.720 Also, was it Chris Kirby?
00:50:02.200 Chris Kirby?
00:50:02.940 Peter Kirby.
00:50:03.780 Peter Kirby.
00:50:04.420 We're going to talk about geoengineering.
00:50:06.520 A topic that is quite, quite, quite controversial.
00:50:11.200 All next hour, after a short commercial break in the war room.