Bannon's War Room - Episode 5029： What Is Really Happening With Ukraine Negotiations

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00:00:44.000 War Room. Here's your host, Stephen K. Bannon.

00:00:51.000 Monday, 29 December, Year of the Lord 2025.

00:00:55.000 We're going to get to the Ukraine situation from yesterday and Israel today in a moment.

00:01:01.000 Dave Bratt, you've got some other observations on this situation of American citizens' interest being put first, sir?

00:01:10.000 Yeah, most all this covered by Rosemary Jenks at Immigration Accountability Project, IAProject.org.

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00:01:19.000 All political views are my own, but we made some big press in India a few weeks ago when we reported with your great podcaster.

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00:01:44.000 That's three times the legal congressional cap.

00:01:47.000 So we made some huge news there.

00:01:49.000 I just want to do a few quick summary points on the Somalia thing.

00:01:53.000 The one thing I haven't heard yet.

00:01:55.000 First Assistant U.S. Attorney Joe Thompson said during a news conference that federal officials suspect a significant portion, New York Times,

00:02:04.000 a significant portion of the roughly $18 billion paid out by Medicaid to Minnesota programs was fraudulent.

00:02:12.000 The Hill leads today with, well, there's a few millions and, you know, Nick Shirley's out there doing better reporting than the New York Times and The Hill.

00:02:21.000 And they're just deceptively covering it, right?

00:02:23.120 The press has been along this the whole time.

00:02:25.120 Two more stats.

00:02:26.120 One defendant in these cases submitted $1.4 million in fraudulent claims using some money to buy cryptocurrency.

00:02:34.120 Next point, 80,000 Somalians roughly in the Twin Cities, 85% language other than English.

00:02:41.120 Overall, bottom line point, which Rosemary Jenks raised, is this mass immigration project is over.

00:02:48.120 We need to end it.

00:02:49.120 We need an absolute moratorium for years.

00:02:53.120 And people email in and say, oh, but I know this good person.

00:02:57.120 And the problem is the corruption and this mass fraud has hurt the innocents.

00:03:02.120 That's what people don't get.

00:03:03.120 You need a policy rule that solves this corruption because it's gotten so bad.

00:03:08.120 And that $12 billion we're talking about, that's just in one state.

00:03:11.120 Wait till you see the nationwide numbers that emerge from this scam.

00:03:16.120 Oh, this.

00:03:17.120 OK.

00:03:18.120 Remember, this is why they've got sanctuary cities.

00:03:20.120 This is why they won't let they go to court so that President Trump can't federalize the troops to protect ICE.

00:03:26.120 They're adamantly.

00:03:27.120 The hill they'll die on is the mass deportations because that guts their political power.

00:03:31.120 This is all about their political power.

00:03:34.120 Dave, hang on for a second.

00:03:35.120 You're going to stick with me.

00:03:37.120 We've got a lot to go through.

00:03:38.120 So let me bring in Kurt Mills, first off, for the overview on Ukraine.

00:03:41.120 Then I got Thayer and Ben with me.

00:03:44.120 So, Kurt, just walk me through your because President Trump is putting a massive effort in clearly on this.

00:03:51.120 I'm not sure when I hear the press conferences and all this back and forth, they keep saying it's close.

00:03:56.120 I'm not sure what progress is actually really being made because I then see the readouts later from the Russians and they're pretty adamant.

00:04:04.120 There's not going to be the campaign security guarantee campaign troops.

00:04:07.120 They're pretty adamant about what they've got and they're pretty dug in and they keep showing.

00:04:12.120 I mean, the over the Christmas holiday, the showing of Kiev was about as bad as you got.

00:04:18.120 And now they're showing the port of Odessa.

00:04:20.120 Odessa, they continue to grind on.

00:04:22.120 They say, absolutely.

00:04:23.120 We will not do a ceasefire.

00:04:25.120 We won't do anything.

00:04:26.120 What's your overall assessment of what's really happening here?

00:04:31.120 Well, I think it's pretty tough.

00:04:32.120 We're closing in about a year of President Trump's second term here.

00:04:36.120 And this is now fair or not going to be remembered as Trump's war unless he can wrap this up.

00:04:41.120 I think Trump is clearly invested in this.

00:04:45.120 He brought them to his home.

00:04:47.120 He brought Zelensky to the United States once again.

00:04:49.120 He has his entire top cadre there pretty much.

00:04:52.120 But I think there's a genuine concern that either the administration or the president himself doesn't fully understand the brief here.

00:05:01.120 The Russians are fine with the war continuing. 0.98

00:05:03.120 This war was, I think, a strategic mistake by Vladimir Putin, but he's recovered from it.

00:05:08.120 And they're slowly grinding territory and they're able to project power deep into this country, as evidenced by this sort of savage attack on Kiev over the weekend.

00:05:19.120 It was clearly a negotiating tactic.

00:05:22.120 And their demands are pretty hard line.

00:05:24.120 Behind door letter A is a set of demands that they can live with.

00:05:28.120 And behind door letter B is keeping the Russian war machine going, which is very tied into their economy and their entire social contract at this point.

00:05:36.120 So from Putin's perspective, you know, two and a half years removed from the Prigozian coup, this is a win-win. 0.96

00:05:45.120 But when we had the 28 points or whatever, were we really actually much closer to a deal before Marco and the globalists got involved here and then retorked this?

00:05:54.120 And my point is that we can walk away.

00:05:56.120 You can't walk away from Minnesota and Somalia. 0.83

00:05:59.120 You can't walk away from Chicago.

00:06:02.120 You can't walk away from what Mondami is about to turn New York City into. 0.95

00:06:05.120 That is the United States of America and our greatest cities.

00:06:08.120 And they've turned it into they've turned these into hell holes, which is a cash machine of how they generate it.

00:06:13.120 And this is why we're having this event in Texas, because they're trying to do in Texas the exact same thing they've done in Chicago.

00:06:20.120 They've done in Minneapolis.

00:06:21.120 They're doing in New York.

00:06:23.120 And this is why you end up with a Mondami, a guy from Uganda that's now the mayor, you know, a Marxist jihadist that now is the mayor of New York City. 0.78

00:06:32.120 But you can walk away from Ukraine that the eastern Russian speaking eastern border of Ukraine is has nothing to do with the vital national security interests of the United States.

00:06:43.120 So our option here is just like, hey, guys, we tried.

00:06:46.120 President Trump's put in a monumental effort.

00:06:48.120 I mean, he should get the Nobel Prize Prize just on what he's done to date.

00:06:52.120 But the 28 point plan we had was closer to reality of something that could happen until Marco and the globalists got involved.

00:07:00.120 And now we got now we got Zelensky making up his own plan and showing up.

00:07:06.120 I'm just not sure how much progress is happening, particularly when you read the read of the Russians. 0.55

00:07:11.120 It's it's pretty it's pretty standard of what they're saying.

00:07:15.120 They're saying they're prepared to tolerate and they're not.

00:07:17.120 And they've kind of won on the battlefield.

00:07:19.120 And unless the Europeans are prepared to put in troops, money, arms of which none of them are because they're all broke and they haven't funded their own defense for decade after decade after decade because they leaned on the United States to do it.

00:07:33.120 So I don't really understand.

00:07:35.120 I guess I don't know if it's performative or what, but I don't see this thing getting done with and Zelensky is talking about he asked for a 50 year security guarantee, sir.

00:07:45.120 Yeah, as Congresswoman Green said over the weekend on the on the successive meetings between Netanyahu and Zelensky, can we just do America for a little while?

00:07:55.120 Look, the president is very interested in foreign policy.

00:07:58.120 And as far as I'm concerned, that's good for business for me personally.

00:08:02.120 But it's clear that the administration in its first year was somewhat distracted by foreign affairs.

00:08:07.120 And part of that has been their inability to wind down the two major wars, one in the Middle East and one in Eastern Europe, that Washington is frankly a financier of.

00:08:18.120 I think you're quite right.

00:08:20.120 In the mid autumn when the 28 point plan first came through, that was a set of demands that was pretty close to ending the war.

00:08:29.120 And you could you could tell because one side was amenable and our side, the Ukrainians and the Europeans were pretty aghast. 0.98

00:08:38.120 That means we were pretty close to the Russian understanding of what it would take to end this war, which is what it's going to have to be.

00:08:44.120 Or else it's just going to be status quo and more and more militarism for the Ukrainian government in Kiev.

00:08:52.120 And I think that's pretty clear. You know, Zelensky doesn't sound like a man who's who's really close to making a deal.

00:08:57.120 He said that Putin is this evil person, regardless of what you think of that.

00:09:03.120 That's not how someone talks before they're about to shake someone's hand unless there's something we don't know.

00:09:08.120 And yes, you're quite right. Rubio, the secretary of state, is the ostensible chief diplomat of the United States.

00:09:16.120 But he seems pretty averse to diplomacy. He's he's a hawk on Russia, Ukraine.

00:09:22.120 He's a hawk on Middle Eastern issues. And of course, he's an uber hawk on this sort of Venezuela distraction.

00:09:28.120 And so it's very curious why he's considered to be so competent at it when his core function diplomacy.

00:09:35.120 We've seen a widening of these wars this year, not not a narrowing.

00:09:39.120 I mean, President Trump, look, he says, look, I want to stop the killing.

00:09:45.120 And he's put so much time and effort in this. I do agree.

00:09:48.120 Even look, you have to deal with the facts that you have.

00:09:51.120 He was trying to wind down the kinetic part of the Third World War and do it as rapidly as possible.

00:09:55.120 But the the geopolitical reality, particularly in Ukraine, is that the Russians the Russians have, you know,

00:10:02.120 and they don't have a history of backing the tanks up and giving up territory that they took on the battlefield.

00:10:07.120 That just has to be a reality. If the Europeans got something to say about it and do about it, then go with it. 0.94

00:10:12.120 It's not that we're holding it back.

00:10:14.120 And France and France has a lot of talk. They're broke. The Fifth Republic is about to collapse.

00:10:18.120 Starmer's got no money, no troops, no arms.

00:10:21.120 Germany's now heading towards a major financial crisis because of their nutcase cult like net zero carbon regime to deindustrialize themselves. 0.64

00:10:32.120 The Italians Maloney talks a good game, but she doesn't put any money up ever. 1.00

00:10:36.120 None of them do. That's why the Russians look at this and think it's a joke. 0.99

00:10:39.120 The only thing the Europeans are going to do is steal their money, the three in a billion dollars. 0.90

00:10:43.120 And when that was finally when Hungary and Poland stood up and said, we're not going to do that because you do that. 0.54

00:10:48.120 They said that's an act of war and they could come blowing up over here and we're not going to have it.

00:10:52.120 That got shut down. So hang on for a second. Just stay right there because I've got to ask you about Netanyahu.

00:10:57.120 Dr. Thayer, you've got some issues with this thing of security guarantees.

00:11:01.120 Just walk me through. You've got a couple of bullet points you think that people ought to be aware of.

00:11:05.120 What do you got? Sure, Steve. Great to join you.

00:11:08.120 First point is that this is something the United States should not do.

00:11:13.120 It's important to recognize what a security commitment is.

00:11:16.120 A security commitment is a pledge by the United States that it will use all of its might if necessary,

00:11:23.120 including a nuclear, employing our strategic nuclear arsenal to advance the particular end.

00:11:31.120 So making a security commitment to Ukraine means we're pledging, if it comes to it, to use nuclear weapons for Ukrainian security. 0.70

00:11:41.120 We're making Ukraine the 51st state and Ukraine is not the 51st state.

00:11:46.120 It is not a strategic interest of the United States.

00:11:50.120 So that commitment is dangerous in that respect and we shouldn't do it.

00:11:56.120 We don't make security commitments lightly and we shouldn't do it in this instance.

00:12:01.120 Moreover, it doesn't.

00:12:03.120 What about what about what about the what about the what about the what about this issue of the timing on a duration?

00:12:10.120 You give a 15 because right now they're talking about a 15.

00:12:13.120 Zelensky asked for 50 years.

00:12:15.120 They're talking about 15 years, but a a time limit on a security guarantee.

00:12:19.120 What does that actually mean?

00:12:21.120 Well, that's a lie. That's a pie crust.

00:12:23.120 It's made to be broken.

00:12:25.120 You don't say I'll fight a nuclear war for you for 15 years, but 15 years in one day, I won't fight a nuclear war for you.

00:12:32.120 Right. So the 15 years is just a stocking horse to make the commitment, get the commitment landed.

00:12:39.120 So it's not in our interest.

00:12:42.120 It's just the reverse.

00:12:43.120 It prevents the U.S. from improving our relationship with Russia because now we're tied to Ukraine for 15 years.

00:12:50.120 Purportedly, it's going to prevent any rapprochement with China.

00:12:54.120 Second big problem with this is it ties us down to a new commitment at a time where we're hard pressed to deal with the threat from the PRC.

00:13:02.120 The center of gravity for our national security is the PRC, the People's Republic of China.

00:13:08.120 And this agreement allows really all of those who want to threat deflate.

00:13:14.120 Right. Minimize the China threat and focus the threat on Russia, say that Russia is a threat to continue that. 0.52

00:13:21.120 China is the strategic center of gravity for us.

00:13:25.120 And we're supremely foolish not to see this at a time where Beijing is turning up the heat on Taiwan like it hasn't before with the new exercise Peace Justice 2025.

00:13:36.120 And the last point, Steve, is that this really is in the scope of our interest.

00:13:43.120 The PRC wins if we make this strategic commitment to Ukraine and we lose.

00:13:48.120 Right. Xi Jinping is going to be dancing in the street if we do this, because the U.S. will be occupied in a sideshow for U.S. national security.

00:13:57.120 And Russia is compelled to remain dependent on Beijing as a result of it.

00:14:03.120 It's as dangerous as the blank check that Germany gave Austria-Hungary in July of 1914 that allowed Austria to escalate. 0.68

00:14:13.120 So, look, we didn't, you know, Xi Jinping.

00:14:17.120 I saw that one. I tell you what, hang on a second.

00:14:21.120 We're going to get back to you. We're taking a short commercial break.

00:14:23.120 Yes, the CCP is doing a massive live fire naval exercise.

00:14:28.120 I guess it's all hands on deck exercise showing how they can envelop Taiwan even as we speak. 1.00

00:14:35.120 In fact, Captain Fennell will be on tomorrow. We're going to break all that down.

00:14:39.120 But just a little love tap from the CCP about the chip manufacturing Goliath that is Taiwan. 0.70

00:14:49.120 Short break. Back in the warm in a moment.

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00:17:04.120 Welcome back.

00:17:05.120 Kurt Mills, breaking news on Reuters.

00:17:06.120 What do you got for us?

00:17:08.120 Yeah, it appears the Russians are claiming that Zelensky and his military attempted a drone strike on Putin's residence.

00:17:17.120 Not entirely clear which residence.

00:17:19.120 Of course, how many homes the Russian president has is a matter of some speculation.

00:17:23.120 Regardless, the foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, says this will change the Russians' negotiating position down in Florida.

00:17:32.120 So this looks like a potential 11th hour, you know, real gum in the works here.

00:17:38.120 And, you know, whether or not it's true, whether or not it was actually an act of extreme belligerence by the Ukrainians or the Russians are merely claiming as such.

00:17:50.120 I think that sort of checks out that we don't have we are an incomplete point on this deal, which is that President Trump, for all of his efforts, is not going to get the Russians and the Ukrainians to agree to something at least anytime soon, unless the facts on the ground really change.

00:18:09.120 Well, look, the Russians, the Russians pounded the Russians are pounding Kiev and Putin keeps saying we're not going to have any ceasefire.

00:18:18.120 And Zelensky in this crowd gives as good as they get.

00:18:21.120 Sometimes like if they did this attack, they've been very aggressive in the drone attacks.

00:18:26.120 But if if this is even true or close to being true, it shows you we have very little control over the situation on the battlefield.

00:18:33.120 Right. Guys are just slugging it out and going to do what they're going to do.

00:18:37.120 So, Harnwell, your thoughts on this? I know you as head of our International Bureau in the Eternal City, you keep your beady eye on this.

00:18:45.120 What do you got for us?

00:18:47.120 Well, look, let's start off with the 50 year term limit that the ask on behalf of Zelensky, because I know that's what we've been discussing on the show so far.

00:18:58.120 My view on that, and I think Dr. Thayer makes some valid points, especially on the idea that 15 years, which is what apparently the US is committed to, is only a token in order to shoehorn the US into this.

00:19:13.120 And then it will obviously be ignored and extended further on.

00:19:16.120 But my observation on this to sort off with is that the whole 50 year thing, the whole thing is theatre, Steve.

00:19:23.120 As I see this, right, the 50 year thing was only ever a theatre, a theatrical fake negotiation point.

00:19:30.120 So that President Trump could then sort of bring it down to 15 and then come back and say, look, what a great negotiation I've obtained for the American people.

00:19:38.120 Of course, the war in audience knows that 15 years is appalling in and of itself.

00:19:44.120 This is a defeat for the America First movement for the reasons that we've been saying from the beginning of this war, from when Biden was in the White House.

00:19:54.120 No one ever made the argument and attempted to explain what America's vital national interests are in this.

00:20:03.120 And therefore, as an extension of that absence, 15 years to safeguard what American interest is the question that needs to be asked.

00:20:12.120 Look, so that's the first point I would make about this.

00:20:16.120 This is a defeat for the America First movement.

00:20:19.120 The second point I would make is I think that, you know, and I don't want to take too big a sweeping hit at my own side on this,

00:20:30.120 but I get the impression somewhat, Steve, that folk in the administration are concentrating on the wrong election cycle.

00:20:39.120 They're preening themselves, the front runners in the administration for 2028.

00:20:45.120 And they ought to be concerned, far more concerned about the midterms.

00:20:49.120 Because at the present rate, the way things are going, President Trump is going to be impeached after the midterms.

00:20:57.120 And that will obviously have a dynamic on 28.

00:21:00.120 But let's talk about 28.

00:21:02.120 I'm not going to mention the names.

00:21:03.120 We all know who they are.

00:21:04.120 Folk, instead of pushing...

00:21:07.120 Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Full stop.

00:21:11.120 Full stop. I got so much I get to. Just put a pin in and I'll come back to you on that.

00:21:15.120 Jack Basobik, what do you got for us, sir?

00:21:20.120 Well, Steve, I hope you and all the War Room Posse had a wonderful, blessed Christmas.

00:21:25.120 I know that we certainly did here at the Posse household.

00:21:28.120 We've been praying our rosary daily and we're making sure to keep all the demons at bay at this wonderful time of our Lord's coming to Earth.

00:21:38.120 Steve, every year at Christmas time during this break sort of, you know, when people aren't always going live at Human Events Daily, we run a special series where we do deep dives.

00:21:49.120 People remember the China files from a couple of years back.

00:21:52.120 Then we did Chronicles of the Revolution.

00:21:54.120 We did Tales of the Christians last year.

00:21:56.120 This year, we're back again.

00:21:58.120 We're going back to the foreign policy.

00:22:00.120 This is what everyone asked us about.

00:22:01.120 And what better time to do this?

00:22:03.120 President Trump holding his meeting with Zelensky, the phone calls, multiple calls now we're hearing with President Putin, meeting with B.B. Netanyahu today.

00:22:10.120 What are we doing at Human Events?

00:22:12.120 It starts at 2 p.m. Eastern.

00:22:14.120 Tales of regime change.

00:22:16.120 Why has the U.S. government and the U.S. establishment embarked in these wars across the Middle East and Eurasia?

00:22:23.120 What is driving it?

00:22:24.120 What are the real factors that are behind all of these efforts?

00:22:28.120 And we come up with a theory, Steve.

00:22:30.120 I think you're going to love this.

00:22:31.120 We call it the theory of the two Georges.

00:22:33.120 This is our two Georges theory of American foreign politics.

00:22:37.120 And here's how it goes, foreign policy.

00:22:39.120 You got George Bush and George Soros.

00:22:42.120 So the theory of the two Georges.

00:22:44.120 George is something we developed as we were working on this because we go through today's Afghanistan.

00:22:48.120 Then we go to Iraq.

00:22:50.120 Then we go to Syria.

00:22:52.120 And then we go to Ukraine.

00:22:53.120 And for the neocons who've been very, very upset with me for the last week or so, buckle up,

00:22:58.120 because we're going to be discussing all of your work for the last 20 or so odd years where you've been sending American dollars and America's sons and the best of middle America to go and die in the sandbox.

00:23:12.120 And we talk about the two Georges, George Bush pushing the war and then George Soros, the money extraction, the financial extraction and pushing the system of globalism, the system of LGBT agenda all the way across these areas. 0.61

00:23:28.120 So, Steve, this is going to be something that the entire war room posse is going to want to lock into, because as you watch these scenes play out, President Trump holding these high stakes meetings, it will give you an understanding of the and Trump understands all of this.

00:23:43.120 Trump understands all of this indelibly.

00:23:45.120 He knew all of the cast of characters at the time.

00:23:47.120 This is one of the things, and President Trump talked about the very first debate when he went after Jeb Bush.

00:23:52.120 This was one of the things that animated him to get involved in politics in the first place, when he saw the insanity of the Iraq war and the neocons pushing for it.

00:24:01.120 That's why the entire war room posse needs to lock into this series, Tales of Regime Change.

00:24:07.120 And we've got great cast of subject matter experts, Joshua Lysak, Mike Benz even joins us.

00:24:12.120 Perfect.

00:24:14.120 And that starts today at 2 p.m. on Human Events Daily?

00:24:18.120 It starts today at 2 p.m.

00:24:19.120 Human Events Daily, but 2 p.m.

00:24:21.120 Okay, can you hang over a second?

00:24:22.120 Every day, and I believe we're talking about Get It Up on the War Room Rumble page as well.

00:24:27.120 Yeah, no, no, no.

00:24:30.120 We'll stream it as it comes across.

00:24:33.120 So, now that I got you, and Kurt Mills is here, I'm going to talk about this afternoon.

00:24:38.120 I think it's 4.30, and we're going to cover it live.

00:24:42.120 Bibi's making, I don't know, his fifth trip to the White House or Mar-a-Lago to see the president.

00:24:47.120 And we know where the Israel First crowd stands on this.

00:24:50.120 And he's making his pitch once again for the Greater Israel Project.

00:24:54.120 And now they've got a problem with Turkey providing guarantee.

00:24:58.120 And look, I'm not a two-state solution guy, but the Israel First crowd brought this on themselves.

00:25:03.120 They've got a two-state solution in Gaza with Qatar writing hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:25:09.120 And the Turks are going to provide security.

00:25:13.120 And they don't like that.

00:25:14.120 And they're trying to unwind what President Trump's doing there.

00:25:16.120 They're also, you know, maniacally focused on, once again, now it's ballistic missiles.

00:25:20.120 They've got to come up with something else.

00:25:22.120 Since they've already, their one-trick pony about the nuclear program is kind of,

00:25:26.120 President Trump ended that with the 12-day war.

00:25:29.120 But you were pretty viciously attacked.

00:25:31.120 I mean, isn't a lot of this Israel First crowd just virulently anti-Catholic and anti-Christian?

00:25:36.120 Mark Levin attacking you for saying the rosary and showing your rosary at turning point.

00:25:43.120 Doesn't that show just a vicious anti-Catholicism and anti-Christianity perspective of this Israel First crowd, sir?

00:25:50.120 Well, Steve, I don't know if he speaks for all of them, but I'll simply say this.

00:25:56.120 The last week has taught me and confirmed for me more than anything else, I think, in my entire life, the power of the Holy Rosary.

00:26:05.120 And I've got mine right here.

00:26:08.120 This is my brand-new rosary, which I received custom-made.

00:26:12.120 It's a Polish-inspired rosary.

00:26:14.120 So we've got Maximilian Kolbe.

00:26:15.120 We've got St. Michael the Archangel as well.

00:26:17.120 We've got St. Pope John Paul II there.

00:26:20.120 So, you know, really just an amazing custom rosary.

00:26:23.120 We put the links up to it online for people if they want to get their own made.

00:26:27.120 And look, it's really simple, folks.

00:26:30.120 It's really simple.

00:26:31.120 In our time, in times like this, we need to focus on the things that are higher than us.

00:26:37.120 Higher than our own interests.

00:26:39.120 Higher than our own self-interests.

00:26:41.120 And when I stood there at the memorial for Charlie and held up my rosary, that was an invocation of God.

00:26:49.120 That was an invocation of the saints, an invocation of St. Michael.

00:26:53.120 And I don't know why Mark Levin chose that picture of me to attack, but I'll simply say this.

00:27:00.120 Mark, if you want to come pray a rosary with me, you're more than welcome.

00:27:04.120 And I will always welcome you to do that.

00:27:07.120 And in fact, I hope that Mark watches the regime change series that we've set up at Human Events Daily because a lot of his work is featured very prominently in it.

00:27:18.120 Uh, he's, uh, he's like a, uh, he, his reaction, uh, Jack was like a vampire when they see the, uh, when they see the Holy Rosary, right?

00:27:31.120 It's like a vampire.

00:27:32.120 All of a sudden they started their heads blow up and they start spitting at that venom.

00:27:36.120 Right.

00:27:37.120 He's a very, he's very anti-Catholic.

00:27:39.120 You could not see, you cannot see, you cannot see that photo of you at Charlie's, uh, at Charlie's, uh, memorial service and, and attack it.

00:27:48.120 What'd he call you a crackpot after some guy called you a piece of for putting it up?

00:27:53.120 That shows you everything.

00:27:54.120 They're verently anti-Catholic.

00:27:55.120 Okay.

00:27:56.120 Verently anti-Catholic.

00:27:57.120 This is something that my family's prayed for hundreds of years and we're never going to stop.

00:28:01.120 Ever.

00:28:03.120 Yeah.

00:28:04.120 I don't know if you can pray this away.

00:28:06.120 Don't think you can pray this away.

00:28:08.120 Oh, that's okay.

00:28:09.120 Let's take a short break.

00:28:10.120 We have options other than.

00:28:11.120 We, uh, we're going to go to, uh, we're going to go to Kurt Mills, Jack Pasoba.

00:28:18.120 We're going to talk about the greater Israel project with Netanyahu selling today.

00:28:22.120 Short commercial break back in the warm in a moment.

00:28:24.120 Turn your mind to find your soul.

00:28:29.120 Oh, oh, oh, it's true.

00:28:31.120 War Room.

00:28:32.120 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:28:34.120 Mann.

00:28:38.120 Okay.

00:28:39.120 I got posted.

00:28:40.120 Jack, just hang over a second.

00:28:41.120 I want to get you in on this with, uh, Kurt Mills.

00:28:44.120 So Kurt in, in the logic of Netanyahu, he does have, I mean, he's sitting there going, hey, the serious situation is because, uh, the, um, the new regime there, the ISIS Al Qaeda regime is a Turkish proxy.

00:29:00.120 He's got now Turkey's going to be in the mainland of Israel in Gaza as a security guarantor.

00:29:06.120 Um, Whitcoff and Jared are meeting with Egyptians, Qatar and Turks last Friday for an all day meeting without the Israelis. 0.94

00:29:15.120 Um, everywhere he looks, even if you look at this Somalia land and Somalia situation, the United States, I think, as you correctly observe all the time, kind of invited Turkey in years ago.

00:29:27.120 So everywhere he looks, he's got Qatar writing checks and he's got, he's got Turks providing security. 0.96

00:29:33.120 Um, and, uh, in, in the greater Israel project, uh, that doesn't make sense because they're saying Turkey's a big problem for us, sir.

00:29:42.120 So what do you expect today?

00:29:43.120 He's coming, he's pitching a new expanded war with the Persians, but he's also going to make a pretty hard pitch about, you got to stop this whole thing in Gaza right now. 0.94

00:29:53.120 It's not going to work.

00:29:54.120 Hamas is not going to disarm the, I can't allow the Turks to run the place. 1.00

00:29:58.120 And in Syria, you're basically, uh, America, you are the running dogs for the, for the Turks in, uh, in supporting this, uh, radical Islamist regime up there, sir.

00:30:10.120 I think he will be a little careful on Gaza because, uh, the president has such pride in the peace deal that they brokered in over the autumn.

00:30:18.120 Um, so additionally, they're going to see how many people they can just kill, frankly, and get away with it.

00:30:24.120 Uh, just this morning, they announced that the Israelis assassinated the Hamas spokesman some time ago, um, and replaced with another guy.

00:30:33.120 Um, basically I think on Gaza, it's probably status quo.

00:30:37.120 But, but, but hang on, but hang on, but hang on Hamas, but Hamas is also, just look at the deal. 0.87

00:30:42.120 They're not actually bending over backwards to disarm.

00:30:45.120 I mean, I think that they've made a decision, a calculation here that they're going to keep until somebody actually forces them to do it.

00:30:52.120 And, and, and right now they haven't decided on which country is going to do it.

00:30:56.120 Not, not even Qatar and the Turks don't want to do it. 1.00

00:30:59.120 I mean, Hamas is sitting there going, we're not going to ever really fulfill the last part of this, right? 0.78

00:31:04.120 They're not going to disarm because the same, if we disarm, they're going to kill us all. Correct.

00:31:07.120 Yeah. I mean, there's no coherent way to achieve the core.

00:31:11.120 This is classic Israel, which is, uh, uh, genius of tactics, incoherence and strategy. 1.00

00:31:16.120 There's no coherent way to quote, destroy Hamas, which is the stated war aim of Netanyahu.

00:31:21.120 Uh, Hamas is a reality in Palestine. 0.59

00:31:24.120 Uh, it's very possible a deal could be brokered that could blend some of the more moderates into a future Palestinian government.

00:31:31.120 But as of today, there's no real plan, uh, to move these people, uh, or just murder them all, uh, or to have any durable, uh, process that gets rid of Hamas is basically an armist. 0.67

00:31:42.120 And the Israelis are seeing how quickly they can, uh, uh, violate it or how much they can violate it. 0.92

00:31:47.120 As for the wider Middle East. Yeah. Netanyahu is going to do what he normally does.

00:31:51.120 His business as usual.

00:31:52.120 He's going to come to Washington or he's going to come to Palm Beach in this case.

00:31:56.120 And he's going to come with a list of demands and new wars that he wants Washington to underwrite.

00:32:01.120 And he's going to have a particular pressing, uh, nature this time, as opposed to all the other times that he's come to President Trump.

00:32:07.120 Because Netanyahu is probably running for, uh, reelection in Q1 of 2026.

00:32:12.120 And, uh, as you mentioned earlier in the show, he is changing the goalposts on Iran.

00:32:17.120 It is now ICBMs, uh, the missiles, which is, uh, you know, had been sort of floated before, but it's an entirely new metric basically in the public sphere.

00:32:26.120 And then as for the Turks, uh, and the Qataris. 0.82

00:32:29.120 Yeah.

00:32:30.120 Uh, I think it's, it's pretty clear, uh, for all of the, uh, uh, investment that Israel has put on Iran.

00:32:36.120 Uh, meanwhile, sort of Turkish Qatari access, uh, has emerged that has, has checked Israel's ambitions in the region.

00:32:43.120 And they're going to keep asking Washington to intervene on his behalf.

00:32:46.120 Um, you see basically Israeli mouthpieces in Washington already arguing.

00:32:51.120 But President Trump, the art, the architecture, the architecture of this coming off the Abraham Accords, it looks like it's pretty set.

00:32:58.120 I mean, President Trump actually has, and it's very close.

00:33:01.120 Obviously there's some big things that still have to be done, but you're a million miles closer to a real deal there than you are in the Ukraine, where the two sides are slugging out and going after each other.

00:33:12.120 They're attacking Putin's, uh, Putin's home.

00:33:15.120 Putin is, is over Christmas is really cutting out the power and the heat, uh, in the capital of Kyiv.

00:33:21.120 Here, President Trump's got an architecture and you do have sit downs.

00:33:24.120 It looks like progress is being made with Jared and Whitcoff with the Turks and the Qataris all the time. 1.00

00:33:30.120 So what is the argument actually they're going to make today that could get any traction with, you know, cause Jared's going to be there.

00:33:37.120 They could get any traction with the Trump administration.

00:33:42.120 I just think residual sympathy for the Israelis, uh, residual deference to Netanyahu.

00:33:47.120 There was reporting over the weekend in Axios that basically Netanyahu is exhausted his will with pretty much everyone on Trump's team, other than Trump, which is curious given their toward relationship the last 10 years.

00:33:58.120 Um, but I think, you know, the reality is, uh, you're right, uh, but there's a major X factor, which is, uh, that makes, I think the Middle East portfolio potentially more unstable, which is that if there's a new war that opens up in Iran.

00:34:11.120 And if the Israelis, uh, get their long sought after goal of regime change there, they'll pivot to other players in the region, whether that to be Turkey or Pakistan, who knows what's next.

00:34:22.120 And it's a sort of permanent engine of Netanyahu's political project.

00:34:26.120 He needs the wars to keep going.

00:34:28.120 It's not even about victory.

00:34:30.120 It's, it's related to the lack of a plan to get rid of Hamas.

00:34:33.120 He just needs the war to keep going in order to survive politically.

00:34:38.120 And in that sense, Netanyahu, uh, maybe remembered as the greatest enemy of the Israeli people.

00:34:45.120 Hang on for one second.

00:34:46.120 I got, uh, Philip Patrick by phone.

00:34:48.120 I've asked Philip to jump in here.

00:34:49.120 I'm gonna get to Jack was hoping Kurt back in a second, Philip.

00:34:53.120 Uh, everybody over the weekend wants to know what's the situation with silver.

00:34:57.120 What is Birchgold looking at?

00:34:58.120 Because this has been, uh, it's been a crazy ride in the last 72 hours.

00:35:04.120 What do you got for us, sir?

00:35:06.120 Yeah, I think, uh, silver just reminded people what kind of market that this really is.

00:35:11.120 It ran to $80, dropped $9 almost instantly.

00:35:15.120 Uh, it wasn't a failure.

00:35:16.120 This was a stress test.

00:35:18.120 People have to remember silver doesn't just drift higher like stocks.

00:35:22.120 It surges, it breaks, it resets, and then it keeps going.

00:35:26.120 Gold tends to move first.

00:35:28.120 Silver follows, but it's, it's never polite.

00:35:31.120 Um, we, we saw a massive run this year, essentially on the back of fundamentals.

00:35:37.120 And then we saw a big drop this morning about $9.

00:35:42.120 What happened when silver spikes this fast?

00:35:45.120 Leverage tends to pile in.

00:35:47.120 Momentum traders chase and paper positioning starts to stretch.

00:35:51.120 And then what we see is margin start to rise.

00:35:54.120 And this time it wasn't theoretical on Friday.

00:35:57.120 Comex officially raised margin requirements on silver and other precious metals.

00:36:02.120 When that happens, weak hands don't get to argue fundamentals.

00:36:06.120 They either post cash or they sell.

00:36:08.120 And that's what happened.

00:36:09.120 This was a structural sell off.

00:36:11.120 People have to remember silver is thin.

00:36:13.120 It's leveraged and air pockets are normal.

00:36:16.120 Every major silver bull market looks like this.

00:36:20.120 It's violent upside, violent reset, and then a stronger base.

00:36:24.120 This, uh, is price discovery, not a top in the market that we're seeing.

00:36:29.120 I take it.

00:36:31.120 This is also, this is not for the uninitiated.

00:36:34.120 How do people get access to you right now?

00:36:36.120 Because I know people have tons of questions, particularly people who have participated in

00:36:40.120 gold with you over the last couple of years about this.

00:36:42.120 Uh, it's pretty, every time everybody, anybody posts something, it goes viral.

00:36:47.120 And I know people are very focused on this.

00:36:49.120 So where do they go to get the best thinking from Birch Gold?

00:36:52.120 It's very simple.

00:36:53.120 It's birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.

00:36:56.120 Again, birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.

00:36:59.120 That'll get them access to the information, a ton of stuff on, on silver as well as gold.

00:37:04.120 Uh, and of course, access to the end of the dollar empire reports, as well as the, uh,

00:37:09.120 Patriots edition as well.

00:37:11.120 They've got until January to get that.

00:37:13.120 So birchgold.com forward slash Bannon.

00:37:17.120 Uh, Philip Patrick, thank you so much for coming in on from London by phone.

00:37:23.120 Appreciate you.

00:37:27.120 That's the dedication those guys have even on holiday.

00:37:30.120 They will jump on, uh, Jack, Jack Posobiec still with me.

00:37:33.120 Poso, uh, your thoughts about Kurt Mills, uh, what his comments, his observations in this

00:37:38.120 meeting this afternoon with Net Yahoo.

00:37:41.120 Well, Steve, I think it's, it's very clear to understand that, uh, political ramifications

00:37:47.120 have always played a huge part of this.

00:37:49.120 You and I talked about this last summer during the anti-Iran operations where Bibi Netanyahu,

00:37:55.120 um, very barely held on when a vote of no confidence was being held in the Knesset.

00:38:00.120 So we know that politics have driven these decisions quite a bit.

00:38:04.120 We also have talked about this vis-a-vis Ukraine because you see the leaders of Western Europe.

00:38:08.120 One of the main reasons the leaders of Western Europe, the EU, they don't want peace with

00:38:13.120 Russia is because they're using the threat of Russia. 0.91

00:38:16.120 They're using the threat of war to distract their populations from their cratering economies 0.99

00:38:22.120 that are completely being sucked dry.

00:38:24.120 The German manufacturing sector that's completely collapsed and the massive migrant crisis that 1.00

00:38:30.120 they've been enacted, that's been enacted upon them, raping the little girls, destroying 0.90

00:38:34.120 their Christmas markets, blowing up their churches, setting everything on fire. 0.98

00:38:39.120 And that's been going on for 10 years now.

00:38:40.120 But what do they do?

00:38:41.120 They say, Oh no, you got to worry about Putin.

00:38:43.120 You got to worry about Putin.

00:38:44.120 So the law of the war drags on the ability they have to use that as a scapegoat to distract

00:38:50.120 from what's going on in their own backyards.

00:38:52.120 So the populace will be more scared about that than they will what's actually happening.

00:38:57.120 But Steve, we do talk about this.

00:38:59.120 What you mentioned, you call it the greater Israel project.

00:39:02.120 Well, what we do in specifically the Iraq war episode of tales of regime change is we

00:39:08.120 go back to all the way back to 1996 and to a document made by Richard Pearl.

00:39:14.120 And Richard Pearl at the time was working for a study group with Bibi Netanyahu.

00:39:18.120 And this was called the clean break document.

00:39:21.120 Now, Pearl, he himself had been a staffer for Scoop Thompson and this.

00:39:26.120 So he goes all the way back.

00:39:27.120 He's in the firmament there.

00:39:28.120 He's in this neocon administration of George H.W.

00:39:31.120 Bush, which then many of which translate over to the administration of George W.

00:39:36.120 Bush.

00:39:37.120 So, Steve, when we talk about the two Georges theory of American foreign policy, George Bush,

00:39:42.120 George Soros, one of the ones that we have to dig into is this clean break strategy.

00:39:46.120 And in that strategy, they lay out that the best plan for peace for the state of Israel

00:39:53.120 would be to go throughout their neighbors, go throughout the Middle East.

00:39:58.120 And this is all documented.

00:39:59.120 Everyone can go look at it.

00:40:00.120 The documents been out public for a long time.

00:40:02.120 Yeah.

00:40:03.120 And they say what we need is a series of regime change wars with all of the Arab countries 0.68

00:40:09.120 surrounding us.

00:40:10.120 So what do they look at?

00:40:11.120 They look at Iraq. 0.56

00:40:12.120 They look at Syria. 0.71

00:40:13.120 They look at Libya.

00:40:15.120 They look at all of the country.

00:40:16.120 Lebanon is a huge part of this.

00:40:17.120 And then the final, what they would call the head of the snake, is Iran. 0.77

00:40:21.120 Regime change in Iran.

00:40:23.120 Now, fast forward to last summer again.

00:40:26.120 What did we see?

00:40:27.120 President Trump says we're going to take out the nuclear sites.

00:40:29.120 But we also heard a contingent of people calling for full on regime change in Tehran.

00:40:35.120 Mark Levin specifically was one of the people who was screaming.

00:40:39.120 You could go watch the video, screaming, pounding on his desk, demanding that President Trump

00:40:44.120 go for a full on invasion of Iran, full on boots on the ground, full on American troops 0.69

00:40:51.120 being committed to this project the same way that he supported it in Iraq.

00:40:55.120 So what are we talking about here?

00:40:57.120 We're talking about a project that goes all the way back to the 1990s that's not being done.

00:41:02.120 That was not created for the security of America.

00:41:05.120 It was created for the security of another state.

00:41:08.120 And it can't be separated from the George W. Bush administration because it was produced

00:41:13.120 and executed by many of the very same people.

00:41:17.120 No.

00:41:18.120 Where do people go, Jack, to see this starting a day at two o'clock on Human Events Daily?

00:41:22.120 Where do people go?

00:41:23.120 What's your social media?

00:41:24.120 Yeah, we're up on Human Events Daily.

00:41:26.120 I want everyone to subscribe to the podcast because just in case the Twitter's been doing weird things

00:41:31.120 to my account, so not sure what's happening there.

00:41:33.120 So you've got to subscribe to the podcast at Human Events.

00:41:37.120 Human Events Daily.

00:41:38.120 Go and see it there.

00:41:40.120 And it's funny, Steve, speaking of all of this, how all of this started when, back on December 22nd,

00:41:48.120 I broke the story that it was, in fact, Mark Levin's stepson who brought Jonathan Pollard,

00:41:53.120 the convicted traitor, into the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem.

00:41:56.120 Wow.

00:42:00.120 Funny how Mossad works.

00:42:02.120 Funny how Mossad works.

00:42:03.120 Well, Jack, you're getting the better of this.

00:42:05.120 This invariantly anti-Catholic, anti-Christian approach is not going to work.

00:42:09.120 Jack Posobiec, thank you.

00:42:10.120 Looking forward to two o'clock.

00:42:11.120 Maybe get you back on the evening show.

00:42:13.120 Kurt Mills is going to stick with us.

00:42:14.120 Take it out.

00:42:15.120 Short commercial break.

00:42:16.120 Back in the warm, back in the warm in a moment.

00:42:18.120 Thank you, sir.

00:42:21.120 Spread the word all through Hong Kong.

00:42:23.120 We will fight till they're all gone.

00:42:26.120 We rejoice when there's no more. 0.95

00:42:28.120 Let's take down the CCP.

00:42:30.120 War Room.

00:42:31.120 Here's your host, Stephen K. Band.

00:42:37.120 Kurt Mills.

00:42:40.120 This is why we got Posobiec today at 2.

00:42:42.120 That's going to tee up the BB.

00:42:44.120 We're going to livestream it everywhere.

00:42:45.120 It's going to tee up the BB meeting.

00:42:47.120 We're going to, folks, just like yesterday, we're going to play it by ear.

00:42:49.120 It's supposed to start, I think, about 4.30.

00:42:51.120 We're going to have coverage wall-to-wall all the way through our shows in the evening.

00:42:55.120 But, yeah, as you know, you have no idea how long these things are going to go.

00:42:58.120 Kurt Mills, thoughts?

00:43:01.120 Yeah, no, I'm still sort of reeling from a Jack Posobiec reference of the clean break memo.

00:43:06.120 I'm going to have a pep in my step the rest of the day, I suspect.

00:43:09.120 This is a memorandum that was prepared for future Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by Richard Perle and David Wormser, who later became key Bush administration officials.

00:43:24.120 I think it is basically the Rosetta Stone of modern neoconservatism.

00:43:28.120 Its goal, and it's in the subtitle, was securing the realm, quote-unquote, and the realm, of course, was Israel.

00:43:36.120 So this is American officials writing for a future Israeli prime minister and sort of monolithic Israeli prime minister.

00:43:45.120 So it's highly unusual, very weird, definitely not the pure pursuit of U.S. national interest.

00:43:54.120 Yeah, where do people go for all your writings today?

00:43:57.120 You're going to be hopefully helping us with this coverage this afternoon.

00:44:00.120 Where do people go?

00:44:02.120 Sure.

00:44:03.120 It's at C-U-R-T-M-I-L-L-S on X at Kurt Mills.

00:44:07.120 And the magazine was founded in 2002 by Pat Buchanan and friends against said Iraq war.

00:44:14.120 And you can find us at www.theamericanconservative.com.

00:44:19.120 We actually just launched this month's cover piece today by Nick Rowan.

00:44:23.120 It's all about the Ukraine-Russia war.

00:44:25.120 He was in Kiev a few weeks ago before the latest round of, there it is, Ukraine's fading Western dream, before the latest round of bombing and these new negotiations.

00:44:37.120 So, yeah, check out the magazine.

00:44:39.120 Check out my own work.

00:44:40.120 It's getting rough.

00:44:41.120 Yeah.

00:44:42.120 Say a prayer for President Trump, man, as he tries to work that one in this one today.

00:44:45.120 Talk about a guy, get the pressure on the world on his shoulders.

00:44:48.120 Kurt Mills, thank you so much, brother.

00:44:50.120 Look forward to seeing you maybe, hopefully, this afternoon.

00:44:54.120 Although, I don't know how much we're going to know.

00:44:56.120 If it starts at 430, the thing could last for a while.

00:44:58.120 Anyway, we're going to play it by ear, folks.

00:45:00.120 Mike Lindell, we've got a couple of minutes.

00:45:02.120 You were great this morning, earlier.

00:45:03.120 Now you're going to come back and sell me a pillow. 0.56

00:45:05.120 What do you got?

00:45:06.120 Right on.

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00:46:57.120 Joe Allen, you and I are going to spend some time in the evening show,

00:47:01.120 but I want to give people a heads up.

00:47:03.120 Over the weekend, State of the Union, Dana Bash spent the entire hour,

00:47:06.120 I think, yesterday on AI.

00:47:08.120 DeSantis, Bernie Sanders are now all waking to the fact

00:47:11.120 of what we've been preaching here for a while,

00:47:14.120 is that this is one of the most important,

00:47:16.120 if not the most important, issue facing us, sir?

00:47:20.120 Yes, Steve.

00:47:21.120 You know, it's as if they trained in AI on the war room,

00:47:25.120 fed it into Jake Tapper and Bernie Sanders,

00:47:28.120 and said, give us a socialist version.

00:47:30.120 It's very good, I think, that people like Bernie Sanders

00:47:34.120 have learned what the abbreviation AI stands for.

00:47:39.120 It's very cute sometimes to hear him talk about it,

00:47:42.120 but it's also really important that he has the guts to actually stand up

00:47:46.120 to the tech companies.

00:47:48.120 A lot of people on the right don't.

00:47:50.120 You do have Ron DeSantis.

00:47:52.120 You do have Senator Josh Hawley.

00:47:55.120 And they also featured Senator Katie Britt from Alabama,

00:47:59.120 speaking about this.

00:48:00.120 And the real issue, I think, that the war room posse needs to focus on in this,

00:48:07.120 is the immediate, the urgent issues that AI brings up.

00:48:12.120 And that's going to be social, psychological issues.

00:48:16.120 State of the Union featured Jonathan Haidt, the social psychologist.

00:48:20.120 He has been on this for a long time.

00:48:23.120 I take many of my own cues from him.

00:48:26.120 And these are going to be among the most important issues.

00:48:30.120 These are going to be some of the most important laws passed,

00:48:33.120 child protection laws, laws that insist that the companies,

00:48:37.120 when they know the AI systems are causing AI psychosis,

00:48:41.120 that they simply pull the plug and stop it.

00:48:44.120 So I think it's very, very good that you have Bernie Sanders in there,

00:48:48.120 taking some of his final swings in his career.

00:48:51.120 I also think that it's oftentimes pretty humorous

00:48:54.120 to hear him talk about the future that he's only just discovered.

00:48:59.120 No, not just that. 0.94

00:49:01.120 Bernie Sanders and that entire group of corrupt Democrats

00:49:04.120 are the ones that made the oligarchs.

00:49:06.120 Bernie Sanders, where have you been on antitrust?

00:49:09.120 Where have you been on anything that could have broken this mess?

00:49:12.120 You've been around forever, and now you're going to come.

00:49:15.120 Don't think Bernie ain't thinking about 28, Joe Allen.

00:49:19.120 He's got a spring in his step.

00:49:21.120 Those guys, they got nothing else to do.

00:49:24.120 So it's just all talk, talk, talk.

00:49:26.120 But you're correct to see the socialist version of it.

00:49:29.120 Anyway, Joe Allen, we're going to get back to you.

00:49:31.120 Keep fighting it. Joe's traveling.

00:49:33.120 We got a lot of developments on where Joe's going to spread the word,

00:49:37.120 talks he's going to give, et cetera.

00:49:39.120 Okay.

00:49:40.120 Charlie Kirk show picks up next.

00:49:41.120 Andrew Colvette.

00:49:43.120 Poso at two.

00:49:44.120 We're going to stream that.

00:49:45.120 We're going to be back.

00:49:47.120 I think Netanyahu's at Mar-a-Lago, 435 o'clock.

00:49:50.120 We're going to cover the whole thing live.

00:49:51.120 We've got a lot to do this week.

00:49:53.120 A lot of work to get through the end of the year.

00:49:55.120 We're going to run through the tape here at the worm.

00:49:58.120 How's that sound?

00:49:59.120 Okay.

00:50:00.120 Right stuff will take us out.

00:50:01.120 We'll be back at five o'clock.

00:50:03.120 See you then.

00:50:04.120 Bye.

00:50:05.120 Bye.

00:50:07.120 Bye.

00:50:08.120 Bye.

00:50:09.120 Bye.

00:50:13.120 Bye.

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Bannon's War Room - December 29, 2025

Episode 5029： What Is Really Happening With Ukraine Negotiations

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