Bannon's War Room - Episode 5036： WarRoom New Year's Special 2026

00:00:00.000 Should old acquaintance be forgot and never brought to mine,

00:00:12.260 should old acquaintance be forgot and old land sighed?

00:00:24.200 For old land sighed, my dear, for old land sighed,

00:00:37.920 we'll take a cup of kindness yet for old land sighed.

00:00:50.540 And surely you'll buy your wine cup, and surely I'll buy mine,

00:01:02.540 and we'll take a cup of kindness yet for old land sighed.

00:01:14.540 For old land sighed, my dear, for old land sighed,

00:01:26.540 we'll take a cup of kindness yet for old land sighed.

00:01:38.540 For old land sighed, my dear, for old land sighed,

00:01:52.540 we'll take a cup of kindness yet for old land sighed,

00:02:04.540 For old land sighed, my dear, for old land sighed,

00:02:16.540 we'll take a cup of kindness yet for old land sighed.

00:02:26.540 And there's a hand, my trusty friend, and he's the hand of thine,

00:02:42.540 For old land sighed, my dear, for old land sighed,

00:02:56.540 For old land sighed, my dear, for old land sighed,

00:03:08.540 We'll take a cup of kindness yet for old land sighed.

00:03:22.540 We'll take a cup of kindness yet for old land sighed.

00:03:36.540 We'll take a cup of kindness yet for old land sighed.

00:03:41.540 This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

00:03:53.540 Pray for our enemies.

00:03:55.540 Because we're going medieval on these people.

00:03:58.540 Here's one time I got a free shot at all these networks lying about the people.

00:04:03.540 The people have had a belly full of it.

00:04:05.540 I know you don't like hearing that.

00:04:06.540 I know you try to do everything in the world to stop that,

00:04:08.540 but you're not going to stop it.

00:04:09.540 It's going to happen.

00:04:11.540 And where do people like that go to share the big line?

00:04:14.540 Mega media.

00:04:15.540 I wish in my soul, I wish that any of these people had a conscience.

00:04:20.540 Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

00:04:24.540 If that answer is to save my country, this country will be saved.

00:04:30.540 Be saved.

00:04:31.540 War Room.

00:04:32.540 Here's your host, Stephen K.

00:04:33.540 Back.

00:04:34.540 It's Thursday, one January in the year of our Lord, 2026.

00:04:45.540 First time we get to say that.

00:04:47.540 Pretty amazing.

00:04:49.540 2025 behind us.

00:04:51.540 Great show yesterday.

00:04:52.540 I want to thank everybody associated with it.

00:04:54.540 They wrapped up the year and we're starting off with talking about, as we always do on January 1st,

00:05:00.540 do something a little different about the year ahead and kind of what the focus has to be and the energy has to be.

00:05:06.540 I know a lot of people are still getting over last night.

00:05:10.540 If you still go out and participate that way and enjoy some of the traditional go out and have a party and get to see folks and ring out the old and ring in the new.

00:05:24.540 Dave Bratt joins me.

00:05:26.540 Ben Harnwell, also in Rome, is going to be here momentarily.

00:05:29.540 Dave Bratt.

00:05:31.540 So first off, Dave, you had a good you had a good Christmas Christmas season and kicking off the new year, right?

00:05:37.540 Yes, it was great.

00:05:39.540 I went up to Notre Dame, hung out with you Catholics and family up there.

00:05:44.540 It was great.

00:05:45.540 And now I'm back with Auld Lang Syne.

00:05:47.540 I wish I was Scottish.

00:05:48.540 I wore my tartan plaid, Scottish plaid by accident.

00:05:53.540 Must be providential.

00:05:55.540 The Presbyterians in Scotland.

00:05:58.540 I wish I was Scottish.

00:05:59.540 I'm Dutch.

00:06:00.540 But yeah, I'm just looking forward to the new year, personal growth, just all the things we love.

00:06:06.540 We look back on the on the past year and we just look forward to, you know, just renewing ourselves and our country and our families and the churches.

00:06:15.540 And it's just good.

00:06:16.540 Good to reflect.

00:06:17.540 Yeah, no, I think this is the seventh seventh year.

00:06:22.540 Seventh year in a row.

00:06:23.540 I think we've done this.

00:06:24.540 The kickoff of the new year.

00:06:26.540 And they've had some.

00:06:27.540 We had a couple of a couple.

00:06:29.540 I think very serious talks.

00:06:30.540 I was very serious on a couple of these about what was to come before us.

00:06:33.540 But everybody in the war and posse accomplished their their task.

00:06:37.540 And it's the reason that we're we're moving that everything's moving forward.

00:06:42.540 What talk to me about your.

00:06:44.540 Personally, people want to know more about day, Brad news, New Year's resolutions.

00:06:48.540 How do you in fact, when the year ends, how do you take stock and how do you think about the coming year?

00:06:55.540 And do you do do you do a spiritual inventory of where you've been and where you're going?

00:07:01.540 Or you do one just from the practical my to do list of what I want to accomplish?

00:07:05.540 How does they, Brad, go about this inquiring minds want to know?

00:07:09.540 Yeah, no, I just kind of I try to pray all day.

00:07:15.540 You know, you're supposed to pray without ceasing.

00:07:17.540 And, you know, I start off.

00:07:19.540 I listen to the Bible on the way into school.

00:07:21.540 I recommend everybody should get a Bible app.

00:07:23.540 I listen to I listen to Job.

00:07:25.540 I learned something new about Job.

00:07:26.540 I got a smart friend up here that taught me something about Job and then went straight into Psalms.

00:07:32.540 And if you've never just listened to the Psalms, I mean, you just can't beat it.

00:07:36.540 I don't think we do a good enough job worshiping God.

00:07:39.540 Right.

00:07:40.540 We're always asking God for stuff and asking God to save the country and our schools and the kids and all that.

00:07:47.540 But I don't think we do enough.

00:07:48.540 So that's kind of one thing I'm trying to push myself.

00:07:51.540 How do I, you know, praise God and give that?

00:07:54.540 That's why we're on Earth, according to the Protestant catechism and the Catholic Baltimore.

00:07:59.540 What's the chief end of man?

00:08:01.540 It's it's the chief question.

00:08:03.540 What's the why are we on the planet?

00:08:04.540 And it's to praise and glorify God.

00:08:07.540 And so, you know, you just want to do that constantly.

00:08:10.540 And then, you know, you want to kind of ingrain it.

00:08:13.540 So it's not just a Sunday faith.

00:08:15.540 What am I doing on this Earth that matters in the war room posse?

00:08:20.540 I really don't need to preach to the choir there.

00:08:22.540 But, you know, the one thing everyone here can do is spread this platform to your friends, because you as you've seen over the past week on the war room, we have major challenges all over the globe and more importantly, internally.

00:08:37.540 And so, you know, just think, how has God put you?

00:08:41.540 What gifts has God given you where you can make your difference and then encourage others?

00:08:46.540 Because we need everyone on board.

00:08:48.540 Right. That's what the church is, all different parts of the body working together.

00:08:52.540 You say pray without ceasing is is your concept or what you're taught in your in the Presbyterian Church or your your your sector part of the Presbyterian Church.

00:09:05.540 That is that the you're you're worshiping God throughout the day or is your work in your effort to move forward his plan as it as it's manifesting through you?

00:09:17.540 Is is that is that your work and is that good enough?

00:09:20.540 Yeah, nothing's good enough.

00:09:23.540 But even Jesus said, well, why do you call me good?

00:09:25.540 Only the father in heaven is good.

00:09:27.540 So, boy, there's a statement that puts us all in our place.

00:09:30.540 But, yeah, no, you know, it just means to have your soul geared right, your consciousness, your soul, your heart all aligned toward God all day.

00:09:42.540 Now, of course, no one does that. Right.

00:09:44.540 It's all about me.

00:09:45.540 It's the me generation, me, me, me.

00:09:47.540 And so everyone, of course, thinks about their own personal advancement and how you can make yourself look good and how to wear your tartan vest on TV and these kind of superficial things that don't matter.

00:09:57.540 But, yeah, I mean, if I if I look back at my life, you know, Kierkegaard, I think, said you can see your your life in the past.

00:10:04.540 You know, you look we're looking forward in the new year, but you can see the meaning of your life looking in the rearview mirror.

00:10:09.540 Right. So you look back and I I was blessed with a great family, a mom and dad and the faith, good churches going there.

00:10:18.540 I went to Hope College in Holland, Michigan, with a bunch of Dutch reformed theologian types, really good academic background, then worked in business a little bit, Arthur Anderson.

00:10:30.540 But then I felt the call to seminary and then I went to my Ph.D. in economics.

00:10:34.540 But all of that was linked toward the calling right toward what can I do?

00:10:38.540 I worked at the World Bank while I was doing my Ph.D. to help the poorest of the poor.

00:10:43.540 And so, you know, you just got to what does God want you to?

00:10:46.540 You got to. No one else can answer that for you. Right.

00:10:48.540 When I talk to kids going to the Career Center here at Liberty, you have to know what what God what, you know, I don't hear anything.

00:10:56.540 I don't hear anything direct in my tradition.

00:10:58.540 There's no I don't hear the direct voice of God.

00:11:01.540 You've got to tease that out. Right.

00:11:03.540 Work it out in fear and trembling.

00:11:05.540 I think also is either Kierkegaard or Dostoevsky said.

00:11:08.540 But that that's it's just a daily pattern of just trying to be there with God.

00:11:13.540 God's always there. We know that.

00:11:15.540 But you got to put yourself into that into that faith stance every day.

00:11:21.540 The your Dutch reform. I think you've told me that before.

00:11:27.540 You know, there was a movie. I don't know if you ever see George C. Scott in George C. Scott.

00:11:31.540 There's a movie about the Dutch reform up in Michigan.

00:11:34.540 The movie Hardcore. Did you ever see George C. Scott?

00:11:37.540 Probably. Now that you say it. Yeah. Yeah.

00:11:40.540 It was it was that they position the Dutch reformed as quite a dour people. 1.00

00:11:46.540 It was the whole thing of the kid running away, the young daughter running away to California and bad times befell her.

00:11:54.540 I don't give away the plot, but it's it starts with the Dutch reformed up in Michigan as being a particularly dour group. 1.00

00:12:01.540 I don't think the Bratz are dour people, though. Right. You're you. You come out.

00:12:05.540 You come at things with a very life affirming. Dave Bratz got a twinkle in his eye, as they say.

00:12:11.540 Yeah. Talk to me about how was your I tell you what.

00:12:15.540 What we're going to do is we've got beautiful music.

00:12:19.540 One of the reasons I love doing these specials over the Christmas season.

00:12:22.540 Our team here goes out of the way to make sure that we get fantastic, fantastic music that takes us in and out from different sources.

00:12:30.540 I think we have a different version. We're going to play different versions of Auld Lang Syne, which happens to be one of my one of my favorite songs.

00:12:36.540 So we're going to have a different version from one of the choral societies in the 50s.

00:12:40.540 Let's go ahead out. We'll be back. You got Ben Harnwell and Stephen K. Bannon here and Dave Bratz.

00:12:47.540 For Auld Lang Syne, my dear. For Auld Lang Syne, my dear. For Auld Lang Syne.

00:13:13.540 We'll take a cup of kindness yet, for Auld Lang Syne.

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00:13:39.540 We do have heard a cup of having succeeded, but thekrit� track falls, the sons of Leund Lang Syne.

00:13:44.540 We've fallen early, our weary foot seen no Laumort lang Syne.

00:13:54.540 For Auld Lang Syne

00:14:24.540 And here's the hand, my trusty friend, and here's the hand of thine.

00:14:41.040 We'll take a more kindness yet for Auld Lang Syne.

00:14:55.040 For Auld Lang Syne

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00:17:09.980 For Roman's life, my dear, for Roman's life.

00:17:20.000 We'll take us all the kindness of Roman's life.

00:17:24.580 For Roman's life. 0.85

00:17:28.620 And here's the hand, my trusted friend, and here's the hand of life,

00:17:48.620 My chocolate shop the time is true for all signs, signs of喝 on leave, for all signs,

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00:20:35.980 I think we've done this the last couple of years. That's one of my favorite segments of the worm. So right there you saw that's a Japanese vocal star.

00:21:05.960 Recording star that was inspired to do that and somebody was inspired to lay that on top of a really a not a trailer, but a two or three minute compilation of scenes from Waterloo Bridge. Why is this important? Well, if you if you they don't make them like they used to three years in a row.

00:21:27.460 That's Vivian Lee the star Vivian Lee made Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable as everybody knows she plays girl over here. She then made a war film.

00:21:36.960 As England was getting ready to go to war is already I guess in the war after 1939 called Waterloo Bridge. She plays a tragic lover of Robert Taylor.

00:21:46.760 And a magnificent film but after Gone with the Wind this film was shot in black and white, but it is a it's a love story a very powerful discussion about war in Waterloo Bridge.

00:21:59.760 Then she made I think one of my all-time favorites that Hamilton woman, but the tragic nature of the of the affair of Lady Emma Hamilton and of course my hero growing up as a kid Lord Horatio Nelson played by Sir Lawrence Olivier who was her husband at the time.

00:22:17.760 She shot that in a row and of course this film is a very controversial film because later it was there was almost going to have an investigation about about how Churchill and MI6 had used as I say propaganda propaganda tool to actually get the United States on the side of England in World War two.

00:22:35.760 But if you ever get a chance to see all three of them you'll see Vivian Lee at her height of her power in the late 1930s early 1940s as a magnificent I mean no comparison to Vivian Lee at the top of her game Gone with the Wind with Clark Gable Waterloo Bridge with Robert Taylor.

00:22:54.940 Robert Taylor maybe not as well known today but was a huge star back in the back in the late 30s 40s and 50s and of course that Hamilton woman with Sir Lawrence Olivier and so if you got any time over a holiday weekend the last two shot in black and white remember that's after the magnificent what technicolor shooting that took so long for Gone with the Wind everything's in this a magnificent color even today so much more vibrant than most films as you see it made in 19

00:23:24.520 in 1939 actually probably made in 1938 and 1939 Dave Brett and Dave Brett we have pulled from the files and we'll play later a film is about to about to know about the Dutch it's George C. Scott in one of I think George C. Scott's best I think it's his best role he had post post Patton was the movie Hardcore about the about Calvinist Dutch reform up in Michigan and it's

00:23:54.520 fantastic Brat are you much of a note we got hard yeah go ahead yeah yeah on that note the dower on the dower note of course my dad was raised in a dower household coming out of the Great Depression so you know that there's a little bit of that going on as well historically but morally safer did a thing a while back it seems like yesterday was 2008 he he wanted to take in-depth look at the happiest people on earth which were the Danish and they after you know

00:24:24.040 regressing on all the normal variables you know like income and all these kind of things they and they showed to people on the subway the Danes on the subway they look pretty dour they're all looking at their feet they're not smiling they're not you know young social designers like we got today and they said what's the main reason why the Danes are the happiest people on the earth in international comparisons for years and the answer is because they have the lowest expectations

00:24:51.040 and so there's your right you know I don't push that on everybody but it's kind of a humorous right

00:24:56.240 they're happy because they exceed their expectations right so that's a that's a clever little way to think about happiness

00:25:04.580 Brad you've always got to bounce on your step though for coming and I always tease you about the because the Presbyterians are from the south 0.98

00:25:14.560 the American south you know that Stonewall Jackson and so many of so many of our great generals

00:25:19.240 uh in the uh in the confederate army during the civil war uh were Presbyterian they kind of came from that uh

00:25:25.820 that hearty stock and I always give you uh I always give you a hard time that you've got that upbeat

00:25:30.680 personality that's the uh Jordan C. Scott in the movie has got the Stonewall Jackson personality right

00:25:36.760 he's not giving you he's not giving you he's not giving you a warm fuzzy at any time yeah um I admire those types

00:25:44.380 go ahead go ahead no I admire those types those are the ones you look at the historical clips

00:25:49.660 you just showed that that clip you show and I'm surprised it's not outlawed it's got a handsome

00:25:54.480 man and a beautiful woman in it and I mean that that's stunning you compare that to modern social

00:26:00.540 media and I wish we could go back to the great films there's one good guy's film this year f1 came

00:26:07.560 out and it was like a rocky film I went to the gym the next morning and wanted to do push-ups and

00:26:12.420 everything and uh they're just missing and so

00:26:15.180 got bratt motivated by the way on waterloo bridge let me give you a heads up when you see this film

00:26:23.180 this film is a very hard film I mean the the film look gone with the winds I think a tough film uh

00:26:29.160 waterloo bridge a very tough film and that hamilton woman is an extremely tough film they didn't put any

00:26:35.320 punches on this and the uh in waterloo bridge when you watch it's about vivian lee's a ballerina uh in

00:26:41.900 london but it the what happens during her journey with this war hero played by robert taylor I think

00:26:48.480 he's a colonel uh is totally unexpected you you will not anticipate uh the middle of the film and

00:26:55.000 the end of the film with the beginning because back then I think they realized that adults can handle

00:26:59.800 adult topics and you don't have to do it in a sleazy or perverted way but uh vivian lee just absolutely

00:27:06.380 incredible anyway um let's hang uh I got my favorite segment of the year we do it right at

00:27:11.040 the top of the show ben harnwell he's a little under the weather we're gonna find out is that

00:27:15.480 from a new year's eve party or is he just under the weather and uh dave bratz with us we're gonna

00:27:21.040 leave you with the pipes my favorite song it's new year's day it's one january in the year of our

00:27:26.640 floor 2026 we're gonna take a short break be back in the warm in just a moment

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00:28:14.620 should all acquaintance be forgot and ace the falling song

00:28:43.280 should all acquaintance be forgot and ace of au lang syne

00:28:58.940 for au lang syne my dear

00:29:07.200 falling song

00:29:14.200 we'll take a cup

00:29:17.200 oh kindness yet

00:29:20.200 and ace of au lang syne

00:29:22.200 and ace of au lang syne

00:29:24.200 and ace of au lang syne

00:29:28.200 welcome back

00:29:33.200 we're gonna play that in its entirety

00:29:37.160 that's recording star

00:29:39.320 sisal i think it is

00:29:40.820 norwegian

00:29:42.200 stunning voice

00:29:43.300 ben harnwell joins us

00:29:45.160 got dave bratz here to kick off the new year

00:29:47.300 uh we're maybe not at the intensity level

00:29:50.380 that we are in the morning war room

00:29:52.520 uh and the reason is

00:29:54.500 you're kicking off the year we're gonna get into this thing

00:29:56.400 we're gonna work our way into this thing

00:29:57.900 ben you're a little under the weather

00:29:59.500 is it because the audience already is asking the war and posse

00:30:03.340 is asking is because

00:30:05.120 did you have a late night or all nighter

00:30:07.760 in rome i realize you guys have these big sophisticated swank parties

00:30:11.880 that uh you're uh you know black tie

00:30:15.760 elegant women around very aristocratic 1.00

00:30:18.800 is that what you were doing all night

00:30:20.680 and you're just joining us here

00:30:21.940 this morning

00:30:22.900 first thing to do is to steve

00:30:26.280 you and dave bratz wish you a very happy new year

00:30:29.680 or buon anno as we say here in italy

00:30:31.920 i like the idea

00:30:33.400 that uh when you think of ben harnwell

00:30:36.620 and the international bureau

00:30:38.220 you think of black tie even white tie

00:30:40.460 soirees

00:30:41.760 um actually uh i am a bit under the weather

00:30:44.980 i don't think it's over indulgence from last night

00:30:48.340 um

00:30:49.340 if you want if you want to have the heroic points

00:30:52.800 attributed in my column

00:30:54.340 i think it was the um

00:30:55.940 the uh a week ago

00:30:57.740 from christmas eve

00:30:59.100 when you had me out

00:31:00.000 in saint peter's piazza

00:31:02.260 in the cold

00:31:03.460 hold it hang on

00:31:04.820 the driving wind

00:31:05.980 listen i

00:31:06.820 is that

00:31:08.060 is that

00:31:08.620 is that

00:31:09.140 because that was

00:31:10.220 that christmas eve show

00:31:12.520 is one of the best shows i think we've ever done

00:31:15.060 and i want to thank you

00:31:16.040 and i want to thank jason jones

00:31:17.460 and everybody at the uh

00:31:19.020 church of the nativity

00:31:20.060 the pastor that runs it

00:31:21.220 cutting between manger square

00:31:23.980 and saint peter's square

00:31:25.580 i thought was fantastic

00:31:26.600 now

00:31:26.980 we didn't have the traditional

00:31:29.080 crowds and all the energy coming

00:31:31.560 i say peter's square

00:31:32.260 because it was a cold driving rain

00:31:33.860 that had been a cold driving rain all day

00:31:35.740 and

00:31:36.680 i should tell you

00:31:37.780 the international bureau

00:31:38.780 when ben goes and sets up

00:31:40.100 he doesn't take

00:31:40.800 uh

00:31:41.560 uh jason jones had a

00:31:43.080 had an appropriate crew

00:31:44.060 because jason's making a documentary film over there

00:31:46.140 he had lighting

00:31:47.220 he had his sound guy there

00:31:48.980 he had cameramen

00:31:50.280 uh he had some you know

00:31:51.660 warm hot coffee off to the side

00:31:53.320 you didn't have any of that

00:31:54.340 did you ben

00:31:54.820 you're you're you run on

00:31:56.080 the war room international bureau

00:31:58.080 runs on a sparser budget

00:31:59.540 that's one way of putting it

00:32:03.420 um

00:32:03.940 no but i do have a

00:32:05.020 i do have illumination

00:32:06.340 uh

00:32:06.900 actually

00:32:07.380 i like to think of myself

00:32:09.100 as being quite

00:32:09.740 well uh

00:32:10.540 well lit

00:32:11.160 for our

00:32:11.800 external broadcast

00:32:13.420 segments

00:32:14.440 um

00:32:15.200 but it was a solitary experience

00:32:17.160 i

00:32:17.620 let's put it like that

00:32:18.460 in saint peter's square

00:32:19.420 on christmas eve

00:32:20.660 let's just say steve

00:32:21.720 i took one for the team

00:32:23.200 in order to bring that one

00:32:24.640 for the war room

00:32:25.500 posse

00:32:26.260 um

00:32:26.820 you know so i

00:32:28.300 i'm a i'm a bit

00:32:29.060 i'm a bit under the weather

00:32:30.000 that's all

00:32:30.460 have you been

00:32:31.640 have you been

00:32:32.240 have you been

00:32:32.820 have you been sick

00:32:33.880 but i just want to be

00:32:34.780 i just want to note

00:32:35.620 that i'm always pushing

00:32:36.680 for a higher budget

00:32:38.180 for the international bureau

00:32:39.620 it's uh

00:32:40.360 it's uh

00:32:40.980 grace chong 0.99

00:32:41.900 who also

00:32:42.620 besides being queen of the

00:32:44.340 trolls

00:32:44.640 also doubles

00:32:45.400 as our chief financial officer

00:32:46.800 chief operating officer

00:32:47.900 whatever mo doesn't do 1.00

00:32:49.380 she does

00:32:50.020 uh

00:32:50.940 and so

00:32:51.460 she's always one

00:32:52.280 to talk to me

00:32:52.940 about paring back

00:32:53.700 the extravagance

00:32:54.740 of the

00:32:55.680 of the rome

00:32:56.400 of the rome bureau

00:32:57.860 so i am fighting for you

00:32:59.500 ben all the time

00:33:00.360 i'm fighting for you

00:33:01.040 all the time ben

00:33:01.920 did you really get the cold

00:33:03.340 did you get the cold

00:33:04.620 because of the

00:33:05.340 yeah

00:33:06.720 yeah

00:33:07.720 yeah it was pretty

00:33:08.440 it was nice

00:33:08.980 and nice to know

00:33:09.680 that in the internal

00:33:10.480 in the internal

00:33:12.240 accountancy

00:33:13.240 review sessions

00:33:14.540 i have a one person

00:33:15.780 fighting for me

00:33:17.100 in my corner

00:33:17.760 sort of

00:33:18.340 cheery news

00:33:19.200 but but you should know

00:33:22.240 no i never

00:33:22.980 i never uh

00:33:24.620 grace always wins

00:33:26.260 let's say that

00:33:27.000 grace is always the final

00:33:28.220 she gets the final say so

00:33:29.500 on all things

00:33:30.200 resource wise

00:33:31.340 um

00:33:32.020 let's go back there

00:33:33.080 for a second

00:33:33.520 because we are kicking

00:33:34.220 off the year

00:33:34.720 and talking about

00:33:35.500 really um

00:33:37.480 personal motivation

00:33:38.860 team motivation

00:33:40.080 you know

00:33:40.900 kind of what to

00:33:41.540 look forward to

00:33:42.040 but really

00:33:42.460 these are more

00:33:43.540 we deal with the

00:33:44.280 daily

00:33:44.640 you know

00:33:45.660 material of what's

00:33:46.840 happening in

00:33:47.540 throughout the world

00:33:48.560 and the you know

00:33:49.820 the use of agency

00:33:51.340 which we always talk

00:33:52.380 about

00:33:52.700 uh

00:33:53.560 i want to go back

00:33:54.380 because that was

00:33:55.540 a show

00:33:56.780 we kind of conceived

00:33:58.180 it didn't know if we

00:33:58.840 could pull it off

00:33:59.440 just thank god

00:34:00.260 jason happened to be

00:34:01.320 over there

00:34:01.720 and the church

00:34:02.160 of the nativity

00:34:02.840 really helped out

00:34:04.240 because we had the

00:34:04.800 pastor there

00:34:05.380 but i think those

00:34:07.100 shows did

00:34:07.800 i think that show

00:34:08.500 did juxtapose

00:34:10.180 you know

00:34:11.000 particularly what's

00:34:11.780 going on

00:34:12.520 in that vital

00:34:13.580 part of the world

00:34:14.420 uh

00:34:15.140 we got some

00:34:15.660 real insights

00:34:16.420 into really the

00:34:17.760 plight

00:34:18.140 of christianity

00:34:19.780 in the in the

00:34:20.680 ancient home of

00:34:21.420 christianity

00:34:21.880 not simply

00:34:22.540 israel and

00:34:23.780 judea samaria

00:34:25.220 but also in

00:34:26.380 in the desert

00:34:27.340 uh church

00:34:28.260 uh

00:34:28.720 i haven't had a

00:34:29.360 chance to catch up

00:34:29.960 with you

00:34:30.340 because you've been

00:34:31.400 on the go

00:34:31.860 and your

00:34:32.180 six o'clock shows

00:34:33.780 you've been doing

00:34:34.340 have just been

00:34:35.460 extraordinary

00:34:36.000 i've gotten so

00:34:36.560 many compliments

00:34:37.220 from people

00:34:37.720 of all the great

00:34:38.440 work that you're

00:34:39.620 doing both on the

00:34:40.340 international side

00:34:41.200 on the friday show

00:34:42.000 and then on the

00:34:42.680 traditional catholic

00:34:43.900 traditional christian

00:34:44.700 side on on the

00:34:45.740 wednesday show

00:34:46.320 but what were your

00:34:47.380 thoughts about it

00:34:48.060 seeing being there

00:34:49.000 at the vatican

00:34:50.080 and seeing the

00:34:50.700 reporting live from

00:34:52.100 the church in the

00:34:52.700 nativity

00:34:53.200 it was a special

00:34:55.600 moment for me

00:34:56.280 personally to be

00:34:57.300 able to be there

00:34:57.940 and feel that

00:34:58.520 connection and as

00:34:59.500 you said with the

00:35:00.320 parish priest the

00:35:01.620 actual parish priest

00:35:02.960 of the church of

00:35:04.240 the nativity in

00:35:05.740 that live in that

00:35:06.640 broadcast that was

00:35:07.840 special um you

00:35:09.860 know this seeing as

00:35:10.880 we're going to just

00:35:11.780 pick up on on the

00:35:13.060 themes of that

00:35:14.020 christmas eve show

00:35:15.480 that gives me the

00:35:16.100 opportunity to mention

00:35:17.060 something i didn't

00:35:17.680 actually get to to

00:35:18.700 mention on the show

00:35:19.340 itself but it was

00:35:20.040 pretty important and

00:35:21.640 for time reasons i

00:35:22.440 would have done it

00:35:23.000 and that's the fact

00:35:24.040 that um that pope

00:35:26.740 leo who i like to

00:35:28.720 think we have a an

00:35:29.940 objective view about

00:35:31.000 we're not fanboys i

00:35:32.480 i like to think we

00:35:33.540 were capable of

00:35:34.360 objective criticism

00:35:35.760 when he went to

00:35:37.400 lebanon uh a month

00:35:39.660 or so ago on his

00:35:41.360 first visit to the

00:35:42.340 middle east he

00:35:43.160 actually highlighted

00:35:44.080 lebanon as a

00:35:45.420 country it was a

00:35:46.360 model country uh

00:35:48.460 for of tolerance

00:35:50.000 between muslims and 0.54

00:35:52.940 christians for us to

00:35:54.420 imitate here in the

00:35:55.580 west and steve

00:35:57.600 that's um that's

00:36:00.200 such an outrageous

00:36:00.860 thing i think for

00:36:02.580 someone who is

00:36:03.500 acclaimed to be the

00:36:04.780 successor of saint

00:36:06.080 peter to say because

00:36:07.300 one has an immediate

00:36:10.000 conclusion either this

00:36:11.600 guy is a well-meaning

00:36:13.740 buffoon or he's a

00:36:15.880 cipher something

00:36:16.940 something worse the

00:36:18.340 story of lebanon is

00:36:19.520 absolutely horrific from

00:36:21.380 a christian perspective

00:36:22.480 if you go back a

00:36:23.460 hundred years i think

00:36:24.280 in the early 1920s

00:36:26.360 was the last official

00:36:27.380 census in the

00:36:28.840 lebanon steve it

00:36:29.820 was 53 percent

00:36:31.120 christian 47 percent

00:36:33.180 muslim now they

00:36:35.380 haven't had any

00:36:35.960 official censuses

00:36:37.400 since then but the

00:36:38.400 most recent informal

00:36:39.640 one that they did i

00:36:40.500 think looking at the

00:36:41.180 educational roles put

00:36:42.700 the christian proportion

00:36:44.160 from an overall

00:36:45.920 majority down to 15

00:36:47.400 percent uh 80 15

00:36:50.140 christian 85 percent

00:36:51.680 muslim if pope leo

00:36:54.160 thinks that we in

00:36:57.020 the in the west in

00:36:58.220 christendom are going

00:36:59.240 to tolerate that

00:37:00.420 dynamic and to do it

00:37:02.100 supinely and passively

00:37:04.340 and just accept that

00:37:06.080 diktat from him uh he

00:37:08.680 has no idea of the

00:37:10.320 fighting spirit which

00:37:11.380 is moving right across

00:37:13.140 the the the the europe

00:37:15.900 and uh especially the

00:37:17.140 united states especially

00:37:18.620 with young guys um in

00:37:20.560 their 20s who are

00:37:21.680 showing if you're

00:37:22.260 looking at social media

00:37:23.180 are showing absolute

00:37:24.960 heroic witness to the

00:37:26.820 christian faith that

00:37:27.980 is uh i i i say one

00:37:30.000 of the tributaries to

00:37:31.440 this phenomenon is the

00:37:33.560 martyrdom the public

00:37:34.400 martyrdom of charlie

00:37:35.520 kirk and the revival

00:37:37.020 that we said on the

00:37:38.020 show was going to take

00:37:39.240 place due to the holy

00:37:40.100 spirit following that

00:37:41.300 appalling event but

00:37:42.640 there is something

00:37:43.080 taking place and at

00:37:44.680 that very moment the

00:37:45.900 pope comes out and

00:37:47.200 says we in the west

00:37:48.280 need to imitate the

00:37:50.480 christian islamic uh

00:37:54.100 dynamic of lebanon i

00:37:56.960 would say this to the

00:37:57.680 pope holy father you

00:37:58.660 could not be more

00:38:00.300 wrong and we're not

00:38:01.360 going to accept it and

00:38:02.320 that's why i think you

00:38:03.020 mentioned the shows that

00:38:03.780 we do on wednesday that's

00:38:04.820 why i think that the

00:38:05.500 war room has such an

00:38:06.300 important role to play in

00:38:08.060 this revival of

00:38:09.380 christianity which is a

00:38:10.800 spiritual revival first

00:38:12.340 and foremost and that

00:38:13.660 will have uh riches

00:38:15.480 right following right

00:38:16.920 on from that uh but

00:38:18.320 uh obviously also

00:38:19.860 including in the uh the

00:38:21.140 political and cultural

00:38:22.200 cultural spheres as

00:38:23.780 well do you see that

00:38:26.700 do you see that

00:38:27.360 happening do you get are

00:38:28.280 you getting a feeling

00:38:29.140 that i mean i think we

00:38:30.640 see it politically

00:38:31.500 somewhat uh i think

00:38:34.140 we're seeing it

00:38:34.660 spiritually but you're

00:38:35.560 on top of this more

00:38:36.700 than i am in europe do

00:38:38.260 you honestly think that

00:38:39.360 that's do you think

00:38:40.200 that's happening because

00:38:41.120 and this kind of kicks

00:38:42.660 off our our january 1st

00:38:44.600 you know the the

00:38:45.580 substance of it this is

00:38:47.360 one of the biggest

00:38:47.960 things that's before us

00:38:48.940 today if you take out

00:38:49.900 you know artificial or

00:38:51.220 not take out if you

00:38:51.960 look at artificial

00:38:52.560 intelligence and

00:38:53.380 everything it's doing

00:38:54.180 in the race for the

00:38:55.840 singularity to dehumanize

00:38:57.740 us to move past uh

00:38:59.500 homo sapiens and past

00:39:00.820 man in the image

00:39:01.760 likeness of god on top

00:39:03.740 of that you add this

00:39:04.740 fight between christendom

00:39:06.060 and really atheism this

00:39:08.900 marxist atheism and

00:39:10.740 jihadist combination uh

00:39:13.220 do you honestly do you

00:39:14.280 see the uh i tell you

00:39:15.360 what let's listen to

00:39:16.100 this music because it's

00:39:17.120 a great way to kick off

00:39:17.940 the year ben hornwell's

00:39:19.940 in rome uh dave bratz in

00:39:22.000 the united states of

00:39:22.760 america we're here at

00:39:24.300 one of our traveling war

00:39:26.280 room studios uh we're

00:39:28.380 going to take a short

00:39:29.020 commercial break let you

00:39:30.180 listen to some great

00:39:30.840 music we'll be back in a

00:39:32.080 moment

00:39:32.300 we'll take a cup of

00:39:40.400 kindness yet for old

00:39:46.620 time for old

00:39:58.280 homo music we'll be back in a

00:40:01.140 event today we'll be back

00:40:11.480 room

00:40:12.480 Sing auld lang syne.

00:40:19.380 For auld lang syne, my dear,

00:40:27.180 for auld lang syne,

00:40:34.180 we'll take a cup of kindness yet,

00:40:41.380 for auld lang syne.

00:40:49.880 And here's the hand, my trusty friend,

00:40:56.560 and here's the hand of thine,

00:41:03.100 we'll take a cup of kindness yet,

00:41:09.500 for auld lang syne.

00:41:17.200 For auld lang syne, my dear,

00:41:24.380 for auld lang syne,

00:41:31.380 for auld lang syne,

00:41:46.500 for auld lang syne, my dear,

00:41:56.880 for auld lang syne,

00:42:05.560 we'll take a cup of kindness yet,

00:42:15.040 for auld lang syne.

00:42:30.160 Should auld acquaintance be forgotten,

00:42:37.280 and never more to my child.

00:42:43.400 To the whirlwind.

00:42:44.660 So, Ben, question to you first,

00:42:46.880 and then to Dave Bratt,

00:42:47.840 are you actually seeing this and feeling it?

00:42:50.180 Because it would be one of the,

00:42:51.640 because I honestly think we need a moment like the Crusades

00:42:54.400 to turn this thing around.

00:42:56.440 You can see in Western Europe,

00:42:58.580 I think you're seeing the fall of Christendom.

00:43:01.740 I don't think there's any other way to look at it,

00:43:03.580 and it's going to take some very determined individuals,

00:43:05.900 and they're out there.

00:43:07.020 But are you actually seeing this as a movement?

00:43:10.020 I mean, it's one of the reasons we're going to Texas on,

00:43:13.180 it's not just the 9th of January.

00:43:15.060 I'll have other things to report.

00:43:16.940 In fact, if we can, in the next hour,

00:43:18.620 I want to get it up.

00:43:19.540 We're virtually sold out of tickets,

00:43:21.080 but I want everybody in the area,

00:43:23.180 grapevine that can come, should definitely come.

00:43:25.240 And we're going to have other things around it.

00:43:27.420 I think I'm going to spend a couple of days down there,

00:43:29.180 because it's that important to us,

00:43:30.780 what's happening here in this country,

00:43:32.580 and particularly you can see in Texas,

00:43:34.140 is Texas the first among equals?

00:43:39.140 I don't know.

00:43:39.540 I come from the Commonwealth of Virginia.

00:43:40.820 We're very proud of our heritage,

00:43:43.460 but what Virginia's deteriorated to 0.97

00:43:45.320 is the data center capital of the world

00:43:48.080 because of all the deep state

00:43:49.440 that's up in Northern Virginia by Dulles Airport.

00:43:51.760 That whole corridor down there

00:43:52.780 is nothing but deep state companies,

00:43:54.300 and they've now trashed Northern Virginia

00:43:57.360 and becoming the data.

00:43:58.260 Not just the, it's the deep state

00:44:01.100 that all the companies are there,

00:44:03.660 but now you've got these data centers

00:44:05.320 that just kind of ruined the entire thing.

00:44:07.460 So Texas is so vitally important to us.

00:44:09.900 Are you seeing this in Europe, Ben?

00:44:11.720 You can actually point to it,

00:44:12.880 and you can feel it?

00:44:14.780 Well, let me answer that this way, Steve.

00:44:16.960 You mentioned earlier the Wednesday show that we do,

00:44:19.480 which is a recap of what's going on in Christianity,

00:44:23.180 specifically focusing on,

00:44:24.720 but not exclusively at all,

00:44:28.040 on traditional Catholicism.

00:44:29.900 So we have this show.

00:44:32.240 We have Liz Yor, 0.99

00:44:34.020 known obviously to the War Room Posse,

00:44:36.740 the legendary Frank Walker from Canon 212,

00:44:40.620 and Jenny Holland.

00:44:41.980 And Jenny Holland every week comes to us

00:44:44.640 and recounts a development

00:44:47.580 on exactly what you're talking about here,

00:44:50.100 which is the revival,

00:44:51.440 the Christian revival in the West.

00:44:53.220 And she does this by picking a key story. 0.95

00:44:55.280 It'll be in the New York Times,

00:44:56.840 the Washington Post, right?

00:44:58.760 So these aren't natural voices

00:45:00.140 that are encouraging,

00:45:01.820 let's put it like that,

00:45:03.000 the revival of Christianity.

00:45:05.820 And every single story is the same.

00:45:08.300 There is something taking place

00:45:09.860 in the 18 to 24-year-old male block

00:45:13.320 in terms of Christian church attendance,

00:45:18.680 a pickup, an uptick.

00:45:20.040 And it's not contradictory to what you're saying,

00:45:24.700 which is the fact that we are losing the battle

00:45:28.100 here in occupied Europe.

00:45:30.620 Because there are two parallel movements,

00:45:32.960 and this is what we talk about on Wednesday,

00:45:35.240 on our Wednesday evening show,

00:45:36.540 two parallel movements taking place.

00:45:38.880 One of them is the falling away

00:45:41.580 of cultural affinity churchgoing.

00:45:45.020 That is to say,

00:45:45.860 three or four generations

00:45:47.860 of people who no longer

00:45:49.320 have any sense of supernatural faith

00:45:52.700 in Jesus Christ

00:45:53.660 are simply ceasing to go to church anymore.

00:45:56.180 Because let's face it,

00:45:57.060 why bother unless you actually do believe?

00:45:59.640 On the other hand,

00:46:00.780 what is taking place

00:46:02.020 is you have in that young,

00:46:04.540 especially male cohort,

00:46:06.620 a very strong sense of radicalization.

00:46:10.180 Let's look at that word.

00:46:11.140 If you give me 30 seconds, Steve,

00:46:13.080 radicalization.

00:46:13.860 The true meaning of that word

00:46:16.020 comes from Latin,

00:46:17.660 radix, radicis.

00:46:19.620 That means to the root.

00:46:20.720 It means the root.

00:46:21.960 Okay.

00:46:22.580 So when we're talking about radicalization,

00:46:24.300 what we're talking about here

00:46:25.400 in the Christian context

00:46:26.500 are young guys

00:46:27.800 who are going back

00:46:29.180 to the roots of Christianity,

00:46:30.960 and they're living it

00:46:32.520 with a coherence

00:46:34.180 and a confidence

00:46:35.000 that has not been seen

00:46:36.940 in the West

00:46:38.120 for at least 100 years.

00:46:39.440 and that is going to bring

00:46:41.760 that is going to bring

00:46:42.760 spiritual fruit.

00:46:44.320 Jesus Christ never told us

00:46:45.820 in order to win

00:46:47.400 our battles,

00:46:49.060 we need to be

00:46:49.660 a numerical majority.

00:46:51.360 In fact,

00:46:52.120 he pointed,

00:46:52.780 he indicated

00:46:53.300 would be the yeast

00:46:54.260 that makes the bread rise.

00:46:56.440 That's something

00:46:56.920 I can't underline enough.

00:46:59.320 Quantitatively,

00:47:00.240 extremely tiny,

00:47:01.600 right?

00:47:01.860 But if you live the faith

00:47:04.240 with integrity,

00:47:05.540 with joy,

00:47:06.620 with peace,

00:47:07.600 that will attract people,

00:47:09.160 guaranteed,

00:47:09.960 a thousand percent,

00:47:11.000 because God made us

00:47:12.320 to respond to the gospel.

00:47:14.180 He made us to respond

00:47:15.560 to the gospel

00:47:17.500 being lived

00:47:18.140 with coherence

00:47:19.020 and with credibility.

00:47:21.940 And that's what's taking place.

00:47:23.760 Now,

00:47:24.440 Steve,

00:47:24.740 you're going to ask me,

00:47:25.420 is it going to be

00:47:26.540 too little too late

00:47:28.040 or will it swing the tide?

00:47:29.360 And I don't know the answer

00:47:30.380 to that question.

00:47:32.120 All I know,

00:47:33.320 all I can say

00:47:34.340 is that I think

00:47:34.800 what the Holy Spirit

00:47:35.460 wants us to do

00:47:36.180 is to be the best witnesses

00:47:38.160 to Jesus Christ

00:47:39.580 that we can possibly be

00:47:41.220 in whatever sphere

00:47:42.840 the Holy Spirit

00:47:44.780 has given to us

00:47:46.140 to operate in.

00:47:49.960 Very powerful.

00:47:50.980 Okay,

00:47:51.220 in the next hour,

00:47:51.860 we're coming up

00:47:52.340 to the hour break.

00:47:53.440 In the next hour,

00:47:54.020 I've got Brett

00:47:54.440 and I've got Harnwell.

00:47:56.280 We're going to talk about

00:47:57.280 how they go through

00:47:58.660 the end of the year

00:47:59.320 and how they rejuvenate

00:48:00.240 themselves

00:48:00.620 for the beginning

00:48:01.220 of the year

00:48:01.720 and talk about

00:48:02.820 everybody in the audience

00:48:03.680 and your personal agency.

00:48:06.120 When Ben talks right there

00:48:07.980 about this rejuvenation

00:48:09.240 among young men,

00:48:10.880 18 to 24,

00:48:11.720 it's about the use

00:48:12.860 of agency,

00:48:14.560 of God working through you

00:48:16.140 as divine providence does.

00:48:19.160 And so we're going to talk

00:48:19.840 about that

00:48:20.220 as kind of

00:48:20.660 the motivational kickoff.

00:48:22.540 We've got a long,

00:48:23.860 tough year ahead of us,

00:48:24.900 but we've had a bunch

00:48:27.180 of long,

00:48:27.560 tough years ahead of us

00:48:28.400 and our accomplishments

00:48:29.560 are unparalleled.

00:48:31.560 Why?

00:48:31.880 Because of your agency

00:48:33.020 and your stick-to-it-ness,

00:48:35.580 your work.

00:48:36.240 We're going to take

00:48:36.640 a short commercial break

00:48:38.240 and we're going to return

00:48:38.680 in the worm

00:48:39.060 in just a moment.

00:48:39.640 Thank you for God

00:48:43.060 for all.

00:48:44.060 And so we're going to return

00:48:45.060 to the end of the year.

00:48:46.060 And so we're going to return

00:48:47.060 to the end of the year.

00:48:48.060 For old life's side,

00:48:54.900 my dear,

00:48:56.140 For old life's side,

00:49:02.740 We'll take a cup of kindness

00:49:08.060 yet for old life's side.

00:49:14.760 And surely you'll buy

00:49:18.840 your wine cup

00:49:20.960 And surely I'll buy mine

00:49:26.780 And we'll take a cup of kindness

00:49:32.600 yet for old life's side.

00:49:39.240 For old life's side,

00:49:40.240 For old life's side,

00:49:41.240 For old life's side,

00:49:46.240 For old life's side,

00:49:52.240 We'll take a cup of kindness

00:49:57.660 yet for old life's side.

00:50:04.240 We do have had all in the stream

00:50:11.400 From morning sun till time,

00:50:17.080 Our seas between us

00:50:21.320 Broad have voices

00:50:24.240 Old land's side,

00:50:28.240 For old life's side,

00:50:30.240 Not only have a dime

00:50:31.400 But we're going to take a

00:50:32.360 deadline of her and

00:50:35.660 also have to offer

00:50:36.860 That's not an easy

00:50:37.860 time before and

00:50:38.760 That's a

00:50:47.720 Wonderful life's side,

00:50:48.760 WhoeverVES

00:50:49.320 Isn't even a good

00:50:49.920 For old life's side,

00:50:50.660 That's definitely

00:50:51.940 Nice way to Catherine

00:50:52.520 Of all life's side.

00:50:53.640 And then other

00:50:54.260 Mrsヴ a smartarti

00:50:55.020 To the best

00:50:55.640 Future

00:50:56.020 fähfäh Whatever

00:50:56.060 I would take a

00:50:56.920 Dec例 0.95

00:50:57.120 Before

00:50:57.540 Rome'sЙ

00:50:58.740 I would take

Bannon's War Room - January 01, 2026

Episode 5036： WarRoom New Year's Special 2026

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