Bannon's War Room - Episode 5040： The Lies of Jack Smith： Behind the Protest in Iran

00:00:00.000 this is the primal scream of a dying regime pray for our enemies because we're going to

00:00:09.800 medieval on these people here's not got a free shot all these networks lying about the people

00:00:16.400 the people have had a belly full of it i know you don't like hearing that i know you try to

00:00:20.460 do everything in the world to stop that but you're not going to stop it it's going to happen

00:00:23.580 and where do people like that go to share the big line mega media i wish in my soul i wish that any

00:00:31.580 of these people had a conscience ask yourself what is my task and what is my purpose if that

00:00:38.320 answer is to save my country this country will be saved war room here's your host stephen k band

00:00:47.340 you're in the war room it's friday january 2nd in the year of our lord i'm going to say it for the

00:00:57.680 first time 2026 it's natalie winters hosting today we've got a packed show for you from everything

00:01:03.440 that's going down in iran to the latest with jack smith to the latest in minnesota i've got some

00:01:09.840 exclusive investigations linking it all to act blue in the democrat political machine which i think when

00:01:16.240 you carry that scandal although i like to call it a racket because that's what it is out to its

00:01:19.920 logical conclusion of course that's what you're going to find and i'm sure you probably share my

00:01:26.320 feelings i thought we would be i don't know flooding that state and frankly all the other states that

00:01:31.240 that kind of racket is happening in um frankly probably with the national guard but i would have

00:01:35.960 at least taken federal law enforcement authorities to get some criminal charges of the people not just who

00:01:42.460 carried out the fraud but those who allowed it and turned a blind eye um but i guess instead of that

00:01:49.040 we're discussing about yet again maybe potentially sending troops to iran because human rights abuses

00:01:56.180 or something like that kurt mills i wanted to bring you on to unpack what is one of the issues that the

00:02:02.740 second anytime i see it in the news is like always surrounded by the same words right it's human rights

00:02:08.520 it's troops getting involved and then it's maga getting upset and then us being accused of you

00:02:13.380 know not understanding what maga is about it's always a nice deluge of of misinformation um i want

00:02:19.860 you to walk us through the signal not the noise with everything that that's going on over there

00:02:23.780 yeah i mean uh hard to know where to start uh i guess the president kind of fired the shot

00:02:29.820 starting gun this morning around 3 40 a.m eastern time um you know he's known to keep uh very early

00:02:35.820 hours on occasion and it was one of those uh ex posts that was sign off with uh um thank you for

00:02:43.640 your attention to this matter um and these are the kinds of posts and look i don't want to speculate

00:02:48.440 uh but i guess i'll just do it uh that seemingly seemed to be talking points written for him uh messages

00:02:55.280 uh uttered out um under his account i don't doubt that he wrote it himself in some way there was a

00:03:00.560 typo you know shooting shot shotting um but it appears that he was delivering talking points and

00:03:06.120 it's not exactly speculation uh benjamin netanyahu spent the entire new years in florida with senior

00:03:11.900 administration officials um including the defense secretary of the war secretary pete hegseth

00:03:16.480 and you know it seems as if they want to begin quote round two on iran um that uh that what we saw

00:03:24.300 this june uh was merely the opening act and there's a push to do this again and and they've created

00:03:30.800 really in just just at warp speed over the holiday season uh a new cause is belly um recall that the

00:03:38.480 official reason why we uh bombed iran in june was for the nuclear program um of course the president

00:03:43.940 takes great pride in having allegedly eliminated the nuclear program i think different intelligence

00:03:49.680 assessments uh cast disparage disparagements or questions on that question on that uh assessment

00:03:55.680 and so the the new uh line is that we need to eliminate uh the uh basically the ballistic missile

00:04:02.740 um arsenal of the iranians you know as you can tell effectively um all of the criterion will be

00:04:10.100 exhausted uh by the israelis by the israeli lobby by prime minister netanyahu in particular

00:04:15.500 uh for the u.s to keep going back uh to war here um and i think finally it's very important to

00:04:21.180 conclude a lot of the people make the point including you know leading members of the

00:04:24.780 administration that uh this is not bush style neoconservicism that this is a changed republican

00:04:30.620 party um but with all due respect the president um actually singling out uh intervention on humanitarian

00:04:38.300 grounds on uh on the shooting of protesters which again uh not excusable

00:04:44.860 um but also not my country uh is actually bush uh style neoconservatism it is 2005 bush uh second

00:04:54.120 inaugural stuff it's it's straight out of the dick cheney paul wolfowitz playbook and um it's just

00:04:59.440 really disappointing to see you know we never like to be right here in the war room because our

00:05:05.880 understanding of how the world works i think is uh it's quite concerning but it's sort of like a

00:05:11.760 moment of vindication where because you know that crowd whether you want to call them neocons or

00:05:16.240 whatever didn't get what they wanted you know back with with the strikes it's like now they're

00:05:21.600 just straight up calling for regime change right there they're using the the protest they're they're

00:05:25.680 the logic chain that they usually say oh we have to go after this program but then all of a sudden

00:05:29.620 you know a few weeks later israel's actually no we've just been going for regime change

00:05:32.840 the whole time so just just sort of walk us through like the escalation of this and why you

00:05:39.440 think the timing is now what you think a potential timeline on this could look like actually playing

00:05:45.380 out is the trump administration going to get involved that seems like kind of a flimsy metric to rest

00:05:51.820 you know potentially starting the kinetic aspect of world war three on but uh but what do i know

00:05:56.680 i think you know quite a bit um i think it's extremely flimsy i think you were right to uh

00:06:02.180 to highlight the the sort of first piece which is um that the idea that this is not a regime change

00:06:07.780 war well i mean with all that respect actually asked the president who has explicitly uh flirted

00:06:13.660 with regime change uh language he used the term uh you know uh mega uh over uh uh june in the summer

00:06:21.820 make uh iran great again um i think it was a sort of a major gaffe because a lot of people

00:06:26.580 criticized this element of maga as actually making israel quote uh great again and so the idea that

00:06:33.260 the president um or were you know elements within the president's myths are are not actually flirting

00:06:39.160 with regime change they're not actually flirting with doing israel's foreign policy for it um i think

00:06:44.700 is a laughable contention due respect to some of my friends who actually think that um i just think that

00:06:49.660 it's not borne out by the facts and i and i i'd actually uh you know urge those um you know who think

00:06:55.960 that you know what what level of uh uh coordination with the israelis what level of menacing uh the

00:07:03.200 iranian government uh on behalf of the israelis um would you accept uh what would be too much uh for

00:07:10.080 you to reject uh this this sort of line of thinking and you know as to the the sort of last question you

00:07:15.600 had there you know what's going to happen here i think it's you know uh i think after this started

00:07:20.360 around sunrise today eastern time it's been remarkably quiet um that being said most of

00:07:26.760 these bombs that went out off in june uh kind of went around uh sunrise or dawn uh tehran time which

00:07:33.640 would be um in a few hours from you know this taping effectively um but we've seen sort of um a

00:07:39.440 two-fold messaging from the iranian state itself number one it's hardliners it's conservatives so to

00:07:45.020 speak uh those who want to conserve the regime that is um i have been you know pretty um i'd say

00:07:51.920 downright ultra violent in their rhetoric since the since the post they said that they would target

00:07:56.360 american soldiers in the region and this is something that effectively um as we are approaching

00:08:01.400 today actually as the sixth anniversary of the um strike on qasem solamani and we are approaching

00:08:07.400 uh this you know the seven-month anniversary of the 12-day war this is something that iran

00:08:11.800 basically has hesitated to do uh you recall the retaliations in in january of 2020 and the

00:08:16.980 retaliations in june of 2025 this did not kill american soldiers uh the the they tipped off the

00:08:22.660 u.s um american soldiers were injured uh uh no none were killed in the uh january 2020 uh retaliation

00:08:29.560 um you have the signal from the iranian hardliners publicly we know they thought this behind the scenes

00:08:35.140 but publicly today that they would begin targeting american soldiers if the u.s intervened um i wonder if

00:08:40.880 that rhetoric actually has chilled the administration off this i hope it does because um you know contra

00:08:47.220 a lot of countries in the middle east um you know iran is very much a fearsome military and um you know

00:08:54.340 it's it's not that the u.s couldn't defeat them um it's just the question of why is this the use of

00:08:59.080 resources and what is the plan for after and in the meantime if israel tries to go into this war

00:09:04.300 um by itself um and uh without the u.s which it may try to do as a means of basically trying to uh

00:09:11.640 get the u.s to come in this sort of tail wagging the dog analogy um the iranians have been able to

00:09:17.800 respond to israel um it's an open question of whether or not the 12-day war was actually uh ended

00:09:23.680 on israel's behalf um because the israelis are running out of missile interceptors

00:09:27.980 i have another question as you were talking you know it wasn't that long ago that i think i had

00:09:34.240 you on to talk about the new you know national security strategy we've heard all this talk about

00:09:39.900 focusing on the western hemisphere obviously we've seen that manifest in everything related

00:09:44.500 to venezuela but i have a two-fold question one i mean how do you even begin to square even the

00:09:50.500 prospect of getting involved with regime change in iran with that document but also why is there

00:09:57.720 and i'm not saying that it's a double standard that i agree with or disagree with but why is

00:10:02.700 there such a double standard where i mean frankly i think what china is doing off the coast of taiwan

00:10:07.220 is a heck of a lot more aggressive and frankly more applicable and dangerous to the united states

00:10:13.800 i think whether from a taiwan versus iran perspective or just the military exercises but there's sort of

00:10:19.600 silence about that i don't really see a lot coming from the trump administration certainly even from a

00:10:25.220 human rights angle right even saying the same thing why is why is iran getting so much attention when

00:10:30.640 it seems like whether it's based off of doctrine or just actual geopolitical relation to the united

00:10:36.680 states it just seems so far down the list you know at a certain point it's only so generative to anchor

00:10:42.900 on this but to answer your question very succinctly the answer is is foreign lobbies uh you know there's

00:10:48.320 there's not a major taiwanese lobby uh in the united states agitating uh for the u.s to have the hard

00:10:54.400 line there there's not a major chinese uh diaspora in the united states that's extremely anti-ccp and the

00:11:00.280 way that there is um a hardline persian diaspora in the united states and a hardline um israeli diaspora

00:11:06.040 in the united states that wants to do regime change in iran that is uh at least the background or the

00:11:11.440 foundation of why uh this is so loud and i would say the same thing frankly unfortunately for ukraine

00:11:17.460 uh there is a ukrainian diaspora there's a eastern european diaspora that is extremely anti-russian

00:11:22.700 and uh is overrepresented in american foreign policy uh thinking not to excuse everything the

00:11:28.060 russians are doing um but our the baseline of our prioritization shouldn't be foreign lobbies i think

00:11:34.480 this is uh deeply unhealthy and basically a historical uh in the history of the american republic i mean

00:11:40.800 it's not like uh you know people who were coming over in the 19th century uh you know basically uh german

00:11:46.560 emigres uh were obsessively trying to control foreign policy and what was then the kaiser reich 0.99

00:11:51.820 or or italians trying to overthrow uh the italian government in the 1920s this is this is uh pretty

00:11:58.720 astonishing stuff and i think it needs to be limited if we're going to have a responsible

00:12:02.240 foreign policy that puts americans first well i hope the uh the minnesota national guard doesn't end

00:12:09.320 up in in somalia by by that logic but just small things related right i mean i mean look not to not

00:12:16.900 to minimize it um but i mean israel is actually pulled in the somali thing uh i mean israel has

00:12:22.560 taken aside in the somali civil war they recognize somaliland and again not to excuse that any of the

00:12:28.960 fraud that is doubtless going on in some of these inner cities um but the reason why somalia is so in

00:12:34.660 the mainstream of of sort of american media right now is that i think frankly the israeli lobby wants

00:12:39.720 to push it and it wants to radicalize uh people on this issue to distract um from the the larger

00:12:45.460 macro issue of the israel lobby in the united states driving foreign policy on this discreet issue

00:12:51.260 and when i say discreet it's this specific issue iran but i think if they get what they want on iran

00:12:56.220 they're gonna they're gonna widen it they're gonna widen it to turquia they might even widen it to

00:13:00.720 saudi the way that you hear people talking about the region these days and it will never really

00:13:05.060 stop and i think uh the idea that this is this is separate um from the process that went on in the

00:13:10.420 global war on terror uh the process that donald trump won the presidency uh rejecting in 2016 and

00:13:17.160 again in 2024 the idea that this is separate i think is pretty laughable benjamin netanyahu has had

00:13:21.980 a long career he's been the most important israeli politician uh since the death of the founding

00:13:26.440 generation and israel and his greater project has been remaking the middle east with american force

00:13:32.600 of arms kurt mills i really appreciate you coming on the way you break all this stuff down and linking

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00:14:14.180 thank you thank you sir and warren posse don't go anywhere we got a packed show we're going to dive

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00:17:00.300 movement you're back in the war room we are waiting for julie kelly i think we're going to have her in

00:17:06.480 the next block we're going to go through all things jack smith we have some clips we're going to play

00:17:11.000 she's going to walk us through it it's going to be great but until then i want to talk a little bit

00:17:16.220 about the fraud the racket that is going on not just in minnesota and frankly every state but i

00:17:22.320 think we've really seen just an explosion great work by uh nick shirley exposing what's going on

00:17:28.620 there um but i think with the the cleanest and clearest point to link into what we were talking

00:17:34.240 about in the last segment is that the united states especially the trump administration does

00:17:40.160 not need to be supporting regime change abroad when the united states is effectively dealing with

00:17:45.740 their own regime change from within and you guys know here in the war room we focused on so many

00:17:51.820 aspects of the you know democrat party uniparty led color revolution and we could of course talk about

00:17:57.320 that but i think one of the natural outcomes or outgrowths of that is the importing of a bunch of

00:18:03.820 backwards third world countries that have literally nothing in common with the united states for precisely

00:18:10.400 that point through of course the ngo industrial complex the democrat party not a lot of uh space

00:18:17.060 between those two entities um but pumping them into the heartland of the united states some of the

00:18:23.040 best towns best communities of people where they have nothing in common with a bunch of somalians 1.00

00:18:28.900 considering that i think dozens of them since 2007 have joined terrorist groups in the middle east

00:18:33.920 al-shabab to be specific but it wasn't that long ago right that we were all celebrating the new national

00:18:40.500 security strategy because it was talking about focusing on america focusing on securing our borders

00:18:45.400 focusing on the western hemisphere and i understand that that rhetoric is very important but i think when

00:18:51.240 you see a split in priorities where we're surging more you know resources potentially to iran

00:18:58.000 then minnesota or these states are actually auditing the books i mean i don't really think you can make

00:19:04.600 that make sense with that doctrine that was put out not too long ago and frankly i'd extend it all the

00:19:10.220 way if we really want to focus on regime change which i hope the midterms don't shape up to look like

00:19:15.880 regime change here but let's focus on islamic extremists i think today especially of all days we should 1.00

00:19:22.340 probably be looking to new york and everything that's going down there with mom donnie not drawing

00:19:28.220 arbitrary human rights violation lines in the sand with which we're going to stake the prospect of world

00:19:35.680 war three on maybe we're crazy but uh i think that that's what putting america first means and you know

00:19:45.920 importing hordes of foreigners from countries though i guess that's maybe too nice 1.00

00:19:52.240 term it's their failed states uh into this country where they're stealing more than what the gdp of 0.74

00:19:59.880 the places they're leaving are um i mean i think it's government propaganda that we could only accuse

00:20:06.640 the iranian regime of what the american government has engaged in and trying to deceive the american

00:20:11.700 people that immigration is a net good the diversity is our strength and that it's our burden 0.98

00:20:16.980 and responsibility to take in communities like a bunch of somalians in the tiniest and most patriotic 0.93

00:20:23.840 of minnesotan towns you know i know vivek and all of our our tech bro betters have a very interesting

00:20:33.100 concept of what it means to be american and that they think you can just you know step over the border

00:20:40.520 or pay some odd million dollars and get a you know eb5 visa or a gold card or green card and all of a

00:20:47.820 sudden you're an american or if you study hard enough i guess maybe that makes you not american

00:20:52.360 as i was instructed uh by vivek um but then if everyone can just be an american then maybe these

00:20:58.960 somalis could just be americans in somalia and then turn their country into america except it doesn't

00:21:05.760 work like that because not everybody can actually just be american it's not something that you can

00:21:10.780 just switch on in yourself and frankly the more we see examples like what happened in somalia the more

00:21:17.260 i'm convinced that these people actually just conflate and connote being american with robbing

00:21:23.700 american taxpayers of their hard-earned dollars and they just try to get creative with what grifty

00:21:29.000 program they can create whether it's the weird whole autism money laundering operation in minnesota

00:21:35.200 where they were setting up fake autism centers to get millions of dollars from the government or the

00:21:40.380 fake you know leering and learning centers i'm sure you guys have all seen those pictures by now

00:21:44.740 but i want to focus on what is i think the most illustrative example of what happened in that state

00:21:53.140 and that is when minnesota was dealing with a problem of dozens of minnesotans i think we can view

00:22:01.200 that through the kilmar garcia lens and take that for what it is which is uh somalians uh were leaving

00:22:07.680 minnesota to join al-shabaab and become islamic extremists terrorists take your pick of uh adjective

00:22:14.400 um instead of just stopping the flow of people coming from a culture where if the country's net worth is 0.84

00:22:22.220 like negative i'm not sure what these people could be bringing to the economy of minnesota

00:22:26.160 but that aside um instead of deporting these people or saying hey maybe we should put a halt

00:22:33.180 on importing more of these you know soon-to-be terrorist foreigners walking them welcoming them 1.00

00:22:37.840 into our communities paying them to come here uh they launched a federal government pilot program

00:22:44.560 whereby they were giving hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to various community organizations

00:22:51.200 across minnesota to combat terrorism it was called the countering violent extremism pilot program

00:22:59.380 that's how sick our elites are they will import people from countries where they have to create 1.00

00:23:07.760 programs to combat terrorism and then lie to you that you are a bigoted xenophobic racist

00:23:12.780 if you won't accept them and then they'll actually take it a step further and say no you have to say that

00:23:17.920 they're a net good for your community 85 000 to the somali american parent association

00:23:25.100 working on youth identity program my personal favorite sending money to the umma project where

00:23:31.820 they work on mediators and restorative justice facilitators using curriculum shaped by islamic

00:23:38.540 teachings that's what your tax dollars are going to support there's a whole list of these that i could

00:23:43.340 read but unfortunately the show is only an hour but one of my personal favorites is

00:23:47.540 100 grand to the confederation of the somali community in minnesota because apparently that

00:23:52.560 exists and it's tax exempt and one of these groups actually partnered with a group we're going to

00:23:58.340 spotlight today by the name of isaroon which if you're not familiar um with what that means it's

00:24:04.000 because it's a somali word so here in america i don't know about you i don't i don't speak somali

00:24:08.500 despite their best efforts to get us to um but this is a group that believe it or not

00:24:13.480 was actually specially allocated not through the typical appropriation process but its own bill

00:24:19.820 sf 3452 to be specific three million dollars for pre-design redesign construction and renovation of a

00:24:28.880 property to create like a community center so somali women could fight racism in minnesota 0.74

00:24:35.500 and while that in and of itself is a scandal and should be stopped immediately what is so

00:24:41.980 interesting about this is that the director of that very progressive organization an individual who

00:24:48.880 honestly i don't know how to pronounce her name and i'm not going to learn but i think it is

00:24:52.400 fartoon welly well she is also the director of a political action committee by the name of somali

00:25:01.420 american women political action committee saw pack and you can guess what kind of candidates they 1.00

00:25:06.940 support people like keith ellison and a bunch of democrats a bunch of somalians and a bunch of

00:25:13.720 people who are committed to her crusade of quote combating the dehumanization of muslim women

00:25:18.840 immigrants and refugee rights educational equity and reproductive rights for muslim women and their

00:25:25.100 families and so much so that our girl actually co-sponsored or hosted an event with none

00:25:31.200 other than tim waltz in 2023 it was the inaugural somali day at the capitol where a bunch of somalians

00:25:38.680 got together with tim waltz and believe it or not after the call to prayer played inside the

00:25:44.040 minnesota state capitol tim waltz gave some blustering weird weak guy speech about how great

00:25:49.540 somalians are for minnesota so that they're so great that maybe they should stay in somalia maybe that's

00:25:54.880 where they're undergoing a civil war and to that point which like i said the real story here isn't just

00:26:00.220 the fraud it's what these people are doing with that money is saroon again a somalian word for

00:26:06.520 something is also one of these organizations of which i have identified again all of this is on my

00:26:12.420 sub stack but at least five of these charities that are receiving in some cases millions of dollars

00:26:18.600 from the government whether it's dhs grants epa grants grants from minnesota the state level itself

00:26:25.280 um are also listed on the act blue registry as taking in money from them for charitable purposes

00:26:32.200 now i'm not an expert in tax loopholes and things like that but that's quite interesting to me

00:26:38.000 um that connectivity shall we say that connective tissue there i'm certainly going to keep digging

00:26:43.940 on into that that's obviously nataliegwinters.substack.com if you want to read both of these stories

00:26:49.640 um but that's the real story with what's going down in minnesota by importing these foreigners 1.00

00:26:57.640 um it's about campaign finance and it's a racket not just to destroy these states to destroy these

00:27:03.440 communities but it's a money laundering operation and they're putting money back into the campaigns

00:27:07.580 of the people who are allowing them to come here it's like chicago style politics except the machines

00:27:12.800 are not even for american citizens um therefore i will maybe they are citizens i don't even know

00:27:19.480 um but they're not real american citizens denver i know i ended up taking up a lot of that block

00:27:24.720 there's nothing that gets me as radicalized as talking about the death and destruction of this

00:27:29.140 country at the hands of people like tim walls but let's play a little bit of the jack smith stuff

00:27:33.600 um we'll roll it through break and then i think we should have julie kelly 1.00

00:27:36.840 compelled to make an observation about the risks of participating in this deposition

00:27:46.460 the most powerful person in the world has said that mr smith should be in jail because of his work

00:27:53.900 as special counsel not because jack did anything wrong but because he had the audacity to follow

00:28:01.620 the facts and the law and apply them to that powerful person and through its actions this

00:28:09.220 justice department has demonstrated its eagerness to follow president trump's orders despite the facts

00:28:15.640 and the law yesterday the president's chief of staff is reported to have confirmed in interviews

00:28:21.600 that the president is indeed pursuing criminal prosecutions against his perceived adversaries

00:28:27.680 as part of a retribution campaign here's your host stephen k bat

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00:29:21.860 you are back in the war room we are joined by the one and only the fantastic julie kelly who has a

00:29:29.540 wonderful christmas sweater on that i love it's still christmas time we love christmas here in the

00:29:34.800 war room i think we're allowed to say that but julie kelly i just want to want to tee you up you go off

00:29:40.260 for as long as you want i think you're the best person to be able to lead our audience kind of through

00:29:44.120 this but what we saw what we heard um from the the jack smith uh uh deposition or testimony

00:29:51.480 right so natalie this was the eight hour deposition by former special counsel jack smith before the house

00:29:59.220 judiciary committee uh that was last month and they released the full transcript and the video

00:30:06.860 recording of that deposition uh on new year's eve so i want to thank them for that because

00:30:12.860 all of us were kind of scrambling to uh to look at the transcripts and look at the video so i've

00:30:18.720 been posting clips of that eight hour interview on my x account julie underscore kelly too uh but natalie

00:30:26.540 look as you know you and i talked about my coverage of special counsel jack smith who indicted president

00:30:32.620 trump twice in the summer of 2023 once in florida on the so-called classified documents case and then

00:30:39.900 once in washington dc on the so-called january 6 case um and this was unprecedented but the way jack

00:30:49.340 smith discussed these cases before the house judiciary committee was as if both cases were slam dunks

00:30:56.820 the president but for the fact thankfully that he was elected president on november of 2024

00:31:04.680 but for that victory he would have jack smith would have sailed through both cases both trials now part

00:31:14.500 of that might have been true in washington dc of course the city filled with trump haters that voted 92

00:31:20.160 percent for kamala harris and of course the judge who presided in that case tanya chutkin the obama 0.80

00:31:26.200 appointee who hated donald trump probably as much as anyone in that city he might have been right there

00:31:32.200 the florida case though natalie he forgot to mention uh was dismissed by judge aileen cannon in july of

00:31:40.540 2024 after determining that jack smith's uh appointment by merrick garland violated the

00:31:46.200 appointments clause of the constitution so that documents indictment actually had been dismissed

00:31:52.400 but and we can talk a little bit more about the details of what he disclosed

00:31:57.860 but basically what he was bringing in the january 6 case was a first amendment protected prosecution

00:32:05.420 of a sitting president at the time who was trying to get to the bottom of what we now know we knew at

00:32:12.740 the time was rampant voting election fraud in several states jack smith defiantly telling how the

00:32:21.200 house judiciary committee last month that he was not protected the president was not protected by the

00:32:27.400 first amendment in talking about election fraud because he was lying about it that's what jack smith said

00:32:35.000 um so that was of course galling think of this natalie an unelected unaccountable former prosecutor

00:32:44.800 doj prosecutor under the obama administration jack smith was head of the public integrity unit

00:32:51.320 uh for almost four years under president barack obama so we know his partisan roots there jack smith

00:33:00.200 talking about what can what the sitting president elected president of the united states can and cannot

00:33:07.460 lawfully say especially about an election that we know was rigged was highly flawed to put it nicely

00:33:15.360 rigged and corrupted so that is something that i think house republicans and even senate republicans

00:33:22.820 are going to look into a little bit more but in the documents case which i covered i was in i think

00:33:29.020 every court proceeding in florida in that case misrepresenting the facts there claiming that the

00:33:35.640 president willfully took national defense information and hit it at mar-a-lago and then obstructed

00:33:43.200 investigators who were allegedly trying to find those papers that is a provable lie natalie the president

00:33:52.320 and his team starting in the spring of 2021 just a few months after he left the white house started

00:33:58.880 cooperating with nara the archives and trying to find these classified documents they claimed belong to

00:34:04.940 the government then throughout 2022 continued to cooperate with the biden department of justice

00:34:13.000 going so far as in june of 2022 the president delayed his relocation summer relocation to bedminster

00:34:21.240 to greet jay bratt one of the most corrupted dirtiest prosecutors in doj history along with jack smith

00:34:28.920 jay bratt and three fbi agents allowed them voluntarily to come into mar-a-lago showed them around

00:34:38.040 said we'll give you whatever you want as they traipsed through the president's private residence allegedly

00:34:45.000 trying to find more classified documents then jay bratt turns around a few days later and starts pushing

00:34:51.400 for the raid at the armed raid of mar-a-lago so these are just a few of the things that jack smith

00:34:57.480 has lied about lied about in that testimony misrepresented the facts but overall just brazenly sitting there

00:35:06.680 stating that the president committed all of these crimes when in fact especially the j6 uh indictment

00:35:13.640 natalie relied on extremely vague it rarely used statute statutes like conspiracy against rights these were 0.71

00:35:23.000 not cut and dry statutes he was going to have a terrible time he already was gutted part of his

00:35:28.760 indictment gutted by the supreme court in the immunity decision so um for him to sit there and

00:35:35.320 just act so arrogantly so smug uh that he and so self-righteous about what he did and in the process

00:35:43.880 misrepresenting the facts i think we are going to have to hear a lot more from mr smith uh this year

00:35:48.920 is the smugness because he thinks he will get away with it and do you think his thought that he will

00:35:57.640 is is correct or what do you think the timeline looks on how this plays out you know that's such

00:36:03.720 a good question natalie um he he definitely has lawyered up he started lawyering up right after the

00:36:09.640 president won and we know i think he got a hundred thousand dollars in pro bono work from covington

00:36:14.760 uh who is now still representing him so i think there is a little bit of fear one of his attorneys

00:36:22.600 talked during the testimony during the deposition that the president was uh pursuing jack smith was

00:36:29.640 threatening him with criminal charges that he had done nothing wrong so i think that he he might be a

00:36:37.000 little bit worried but look jack smith has been sitting by and watching uh how house republican not just

00:36:43.400 house republicans but republican leadership has been handling a lot of these uh egregious cases of

00:36:50.600 loss fair against the president now to be fair they've had their hands full uh especially with

00:36:57.000 all the litigation lawsuits that have been filed against the trump administration and all the scandals

00:37:03.160 that they are uncovering especially at the doj and fbi that they are trying to get their arms around

00:37:09.960 but in my view holding jack smith and his team of thugs in both the florida case and the washington

00:37:18.120 case should take priority and i would argue take priority even over russiagate because of course the

00:37:25.720 problem there is statute of limitations has run out public interest is not as nearly as high as it is in

00:37:32.920 something like this the reason why we got a jack smith and we got the j6 prosecution we got two

00:37:40.440 unprecedented criminal federal indictments against the president of the united states

00:37:46.040 was because no one was held accountable from russiagate and you know that as better as well as

00:37:51.080 anyone natalie if we don't hold jack smith his team of thugs david harbock and jay bratt jp cooney in the

00:37:59.080 florida case excuse me in the florida case uh tom windham and molly gaston in the washington january

00:38:09.640 6 case we are going to get this all over again uh on steroids even worse because this is how we got

00:38:18.280 to this point no one being held accountable for rushgate everything in between so there have to be

00:38:23.880 consequences for jack smith i think he teed up uh enough evidence of at least a few criminal referrals

00:38:33.160 for him not just for his testimony which contradicts a lot of the facts but also

00:38:39.400 what he and his team were caught doing especially in florida case misrepresenting the facts to judge

00:38:46.120 cannon tampering with evidence um missing evidence in that case missing files so there's a lot happening

00:38:55.400 in that case in particular that i think uh the doj should be looking into and i think that they might

00:39:01.800 be in this florida grand jury that we know this grand conspiracy case that mike davis has talked about

00:39:07.880 so it's yes he is smug for now uh will that last let's hope not senator ron johnson who is the

00:39:15.400 chairman of the senate senate permanent select committee on investigations has said that they

00:39:20.760 are going to now pick up some of the uh slack here on jack smith investigation and will ask to have

00:39:28.680 jack smith testify again in public and julia you just got a few minutes i want to i want to hold you

00:39:36.120 through but how do you take jack smith out of it for a second how do you assess sort of our side of the

00:39:41.960 football how how they've shown up from you know the congressional side and potentially the doj side

00:39:52.840 sorry i have my sweater on i think i'm having a winter cold attack now um spiritual warfare and

00:39:59.720 i'm not really sure what this is all going to look like yeah exactly usually my connection cuts out and

00:40:07.240 i used to blame it on chris ray but now i can blame this on jack smith um many many many offenders yes

00:40:13.240 on the other side though i do want to talk about what i think was a very interesting revelation that

00:40:17.640 jack smith talked about and that is his taught his discussing how he reached out to the department

00:40:24.840 of justice in the summer of 2022 and wanted to be part of the investigations into the president

00:40:32.280 this is a new development and i think it really contradicts and undermines what we have been told

00:40:38.840 natalie which is just that attorney general merrick garland plucked jack smith out of the hague he was

00:40:45.800 prosecuting this kosovo war crimes case just plucked him out of there brought him to washington to take

00:40:53.160 over these two investigations and wasn't really involved before that what jack smith told the committee

00:40:59.880 completely contradicts that narrative and contradicts the idea that jack smith was not interested in

00:41:05.960 working on these cases before he was appointed in november of 2022

00:41:12.360 julie if you can hang with us through the break i know there's some breaking news on on the pipe

00:41:16.600 bomber and the judge case so i want to get get your thoughts on that warm posse we got one more

00:41:21.240 message from birch gold then we got julie kelly and mike lindell denver feel free to put the birch

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00:42:17.080 because we're taking down the ccp spread the word all through hong kong we will fight till they're 1.00

00:42:24.520 all gone we rejoice when there's no more let's take down the ccp here's your host stephen k van 1.00

00:42:37.000 you're back in the war room we got julie kelly still with us thank you julie for joining us

00:42:42.520 so the audience loves having you on and perfect timing because there's some breaking news that

00:42:47.720 the january 6 alleged pipe bomber case that it's been assigned to a judge and there always seems to

00:42:54.120 be something interesting something i guess interesting is euphemistic for left-wing partisan and anti-trump

00:42:59.720 um but amir ali walk us through the history there right so the indictment the case against uh

00:43:09.400 the alleged pipe bomber brian cole jr uh has now been assigned to judge amir ali i believe that that

00:43:17.000 is one of mike davis's he has so many favorite judges especially in the washington dc district court

00:43:23.240 i believe this is one of them i'm just going through his history but he has also um helped uh thwart some of

00:43:32.440 president trump's policy agenda um just getting up to speed here on uh that he recently just uh

00:43:41.480 issued a preliminary injunction reinstating attorney mark zade uh his security clearance that had been

00:43:48.760 stripped by the president uh i believe he might have a dual citizenship i know that mike davis has talked

00:43:54.280 about one of the dc judges uh this one appointed by joe biden um has a dual citizenship i have to see

00:44:01.400 if that is uh if this is the individual but he may be so this case has been assigned to judge ali uh

00:44:10.680 for now uh which was just turned over by magistrate judge the magistrate judge who is initially handling

00:44:16.760 the brian cole uh case has issued a pre-trial detention order he issued that order today which means

00:44:23.800 that brian cole jr who has been in custody since he was arrested on december 5th for allegedly planting

00:44:29.800 those pipe bombs outside the rnc and dnc on the evening of january 5th 2021 both discovered 17 hours

00:44:37.320 later uh right around the same time that the joint session of congress was convening to debate and

00:44:42.600 consider the outcome of the 2020 presidential election he has been in custody since then uh magistrate

00:44:50.280 judge matthew sharbaugh today extending uh his time in prison his time in custody pending trial

00:44:57.160 um little wrinkle in this case so far is that uh the prosecutors in the case working for dc u.s attorney

00:45:06.040 janine perro had to go to the dc superior court which is the local court not the dc district court the 1.00

00:45:13.160 federal court to secure um an indictment now the magistrate judge matthew sharbaugh

00:45:20.200 did not accept that indictment this is somewhat of an issue for the trump doj and dc u.s attorney's

00:45:27.080 office where you have grand juries sitting in the dc district in the federal courthouse who are refusing

00:45:33.480 to sign off on criminal indictments brought by the trump doj i'm not sure if that's the case here

00:45:39.160 or and then they have to go to the dc superior court to get the indictment bring it back to the federal

00:45:44.440 uh uh courthouse and a few judges including jeff bosberg have put a hold on accepting those

00:45:51.480 indictments this judge in this case as well i know that's a little bit complicating but i think it does

00:45:57.880 speak to the challenges whether it's getting a radical judge like this one to handle these politically

00:46:05.000 sensitive politically charged cases or you have dc residents and natalie there's a whole group called

00:46:12.760 free dc i know you're familiar with them funded by george soros your favorite activist group in dc that

00:46:20.760 is actually holding seminars to teach dc residents how to reject um criminal indictments brought by the

00:46:32.600 trump doj and return what's called a no true bill which used to be unheard of now it's very common in

00:46:39.720 washington dc and also to be skeptical jurors when they finally are sitting on a panel for a trial

00:46:48.840 and not hand the trump doj win which we saw last month in the case of the man who was charged with

00:46:54.840 throwing that subway sandwich at um federal agents who were uh executing uh an illegal immigration arrest

00:47:04.920 so this is again an example of the really uphill battle that the trump doj and pierrot's office uh

00:47:11.640 faces when they're trying to uh bring forward some of these cases so we'll see if the judge does accept

00:47:18.040 this indictment if not i don't know what happens from there um but um now we'll just kind of watch

00:47:25.720 what happens as the proceedings in brian cole jr's case uh moves forward uh throughout the next several

00:47:32.280 months and julie just give us sort of your your concluding thoughts on all things jack smith what

00:47:39.240 the audience needs to know as we as we advance forward into 2026

00:47:43.320 so as i said natalie i'm posting a lot of clips i will continue to do so over the weekend julie

00:47:51.080 underscore kelly 2 on x also i posted the entire eight hour deposition video and transcript on my

00:47:58.440 sub stack declassified with julie kelly people want to watch for and look at it themselves they are free

00:48:03.960 to do so uh but again following jack smith keep in mind there's already a criminal referral pending

00:48:09.960 before the department of justice for tom windham who was his lead prosecutor in the j6 case for

00:48:15.640 obstructing congress and his deposition that he gave last year so lots uh still to cover in the jack

00:48:23.880 smith scandal saga whatever you would like to call it uh but hopefully another public hearing where the

00:48:30.360 american people can see their 50 million dollar man jack smith who spent at least 50 million dollars of

00:48:35.960 our tax dollars to pursue president trump uh and uh you know hopefully again as i said face some

00:48:43.080 consequences for what he did julie kelly i know the audience is going to be all over watching those

00:48:49.080 clips one more time where can people go to follow you read all your work and and watch these clips if

00:48:53.480 they so dare if you so dare if you can take it if you can tolerate watching jack smith um julie

00:49:01.160 underscore kelly two on x and then declassified with julie kelly on substack thank you julie for

00:49:08.840 joining us i really appreciate it thanks daly happy new year thanks happy new year merry christmas we

00:49:15.240 say that here in the war room warm posse it's an honor to be with you i guess for the first show at least

00:49:21.000 mine of 2026 and like i said if you want to read more about those somalian fraud stories how it links to

00:49:27.720 act blue democratic campaigns keith ellison tim waltz that's natalie g winters dot substack dot com

00:49:36.840 you also got to read the piece about how well there's a lot of pieces you got to read obviously

00:49:42.520 on on the china front uh but i think what's most maddening is that you have people groups

00:49:50.040 somalian non-profits who are taking your tax dollars while concurrently fundraising off of

00:49:56.360 act blue dot com telling you that you're crazy and a conspiracy theorist for believing in that

00:50:02.600 and then in some cases using that money to directly support people like keith ellison yeah we we got

00:50:08.600 an islamic extremism problem it's just it's not in iran it's right here and uh the regime change

00:50:17.320 i voted for is getting rid of that not sending troops to iran i'll see you guys soon i hope you have

00:50:23.160 a wonderful weekend

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Bannon's War Room - January 03, 2026

Episode 5040： The Lies of Jack Smith： Behind the Protest in Iran

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